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Update: Greek Crowd Now Amassed In Front Of US Embassy - Live Video

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Update: the Athens crowd has now amassed in front of the US embassy in Athens.

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Europe is FIXED!!!! Via Reuters:

Greek police fired tear gas at black-clad youths on Thursday as thousands marched through Athens to mark a 1973 student uprising against the 1967-1974 military dictatorship and protest bitter austerity measures.

 

Students and teachers, workers and pensioners marched beating drums and chanting "EU, IMF out" in the first public test for a new national unity government charged with imposing painful tax rises and spending cuts to avert bankruptcy.

 


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Thu, 11/17/2011 - 11:21 | Link to Comment scatterbrains
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FTMFGLOBALW ?  Tyler does that mean Fuk the mo fo global banker wankers ? What is that ?

 

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 11:25 | Link to Comment jdelano
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OT: um...philly manufacturing?  

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 12:18 | Link to Comment Carl Spackler
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The speed limit on the road to insolvency is has just gone from 55 to 65.

First the protesters chant / riot.

Now, the Greek police are chanting at the protesters, while they fire tear gas?

Any bracelets on Corzine's wrists yet?

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 13:11 | Link to Comment Fukushima Sam
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Nigel Farage speaks truth to the EU.  Absolutely hilarious as usual!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=ULns-cSUeVs

 

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 13:13 | Link to Comment BaBaBouy
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And Corzyne Enjoying The Fine Life ...

 

With MF Global Money Still Lost, Suspicions Grow

 

Nearly three weeks after $600 million in customer money went missing from MF Global, the search for the cash has been hampered by the bankrupt brokerage firm's sloppy record-keeping, an increasingly worrisome situation that has left regulators frustrated and customers in the lurch.

The round-the-clock effort has consumed an alphabet soup of federal regulators and criminal investigators, with lawyers sleeping at open desks and each agency commandeering a different conference room at the firm's offices. But as authorities comb through some 38,000 customer accounts, they are growing more suspicious about what went wrong at MF Global, the commodities powerhouse once run by Jon S. Corzine, the former Democratic governor of New Jersey.

"The lost money is sort of like a lost child," said Bart Chilton, a Democratic member of the Commodity Futures Trading Commission. "Every day that passes is more and more concerning, and there's less and less hope."

At a bankruptcy hearing on Wednesday, a lawyer for the trustee overseeing the liquidation of the brokerage house would not speculate on the matter, acknowledging simply that the money was still missing.

After MF Global filed for bankruptcy in late October, hundreds of examiners descended on the firm's New York and Chicago offices. S

Nearly three weeks after $600 million in customer money went missing from MF Global, the search for the cash has been hampered by the bankrupt brokerage firm's sloppy record-keeping, an increasingly worrisome situation that has left regulators frustrated and customers in the lurch.

The round-the-clock effort has consumed an alphabet soup of federal regulators and criminal investigators, with lawyers sleeping at open desks and each agency commandeering a different conference room at the firm's offices. But as authorities comb through some 38,000 customer accounts, they are growing more suspicious about what went wrong at MF Global, the commodities powerhouse once run by Jon S. Corzine, the former Democratic governor of New Jersey.

"The lost money is sort of like a lost child," said Bart Chilton, a Democratic member of the Commodity Futures Trading Commission. "Every day that passes is more and more concerning, and there's less and less hope."

At a bankruptcy hearing on Wednesday, a lawyer for the trustee overseeing the liquidation of the brokerage house would not speculate on the matter, acknowledging simply that the money was still missing.

After MF Global filed for bankruptcy in late October, hundreds of examiners descended on the firm's New York and Chicago offices. Since then, they have been poring over records, verifying customer accounts and interrogating the skeleton staff that remains.

The C.F.T.C. is heading the search for the $600 million missing from the futures business, armed with at least 15 accounting and enforcement staff members on site in New York. The Securities and Exchange Commission is focusing on a separate MF Global unit, as workers report back to bosses in Washington in twice-daily conference calls. Federal prosecutors in New York and Chicago have issued subpoenas, according to one person with knowledge of the matter who spoke on the condition of anonymity.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/mf-global-money-still-lost-115508872.html

 

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 13:16 | Link to Comment MillionDollarBonus_
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It is patently ridiculous to reject the consensus on the necessity of the IMF and EU by top politicians, economists and financial professionals. All of these leaders agree that the IMF and EU both not only necessary but essential for the fostering of prosperity, peace, equality and liberty throughout the world. If you're going to criticise a professional entity like the IMF, then you should at least have a PhD in economics or some experience in the financial services industry.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 13:27 | Link to Comment Husk-Erzulie
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Straight comedy is the most hilarious. :-)

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 14:00 | Link to Comment TruthInSunshine
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Americans should drop ship every U.S. based top executive/agent of the Squid, JP Morgan & Federal Reserve 'Bank' (with red dots on painted on the members of the New York Branch) into Syntagma Square with a ginormous banner that reads (in Greek):

"At his best, man is the noblest of all animals; separated from law and justice he is the worst."

--Aristotle


"Hank 'Tanks In The Streets Any Moment Now' Paulson fleeced the globe & made Robber Barons of his friends while The Ben 'Broke All Markets' Bernank & Timmay continued the Ponzi & effectuated the final transfusions of global taxpayer blood into the Parasitic Corpse of the Kleptocracy.

 

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 14:09 | Link to Comment Ira Thurby-Wright
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"Hank 'Tanks In The Streets Any Moment Now' Paulson fleeced the globe & made Robber Barons of his friends"

Hey, where is old pale-faced Paulson these days. Would I expect to find him in a corner office at GS or in the basement of the Fed? Or perhaps on a tax-haven island? I understand he burns easy.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 14:35 | Link to Comment entropos
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MDB; Every down arrow adds to your status as a world class troll. Keep up the good work!

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 16:00 | Link to Comment PersonalRespons...
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One day you'll slip up and your /sarc will be obviouse, then the jig will be up.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 14:13 | Link to Comment Ira Thurby-Wright
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"The lost money is sort of like a lost child"

I believe they make some sort of ankle bracelet to keep track of suspects, sort of like a suspect relative...

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 17:48 | Link to Comment pasttense
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"with lawyers sleeping at open desks"

And naturally the bankruptcy administrator is being billed several hundred dollars per hour for each hour they are sleeping?

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 13:25 | Link to Comment A Nanny Moose
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This guy needs to stay away from all book depositories, and Korean Air flights over Soviet Air Space. He needs a security detail testing his food and drinks.

 

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 13:40 | Link to Comment macholatte
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Nigel Farage speaks truth to the EU.  Absolutely hilarious as usual!

 

Spot on. Thanks for the link.

It would be funny if not sooo tragic.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 13:43 | Link to Comment Ghordius
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"Nigel Farage speaks truth to the EU" ??

some is half-truth propaganda (nevertheless hilarious)

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 13:14 | Link to Comment BaBaBouy
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Thu, 11/17/2011 - 13:32 | Link to Comment The Big Ching-aso
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I'll start to really pay attention when the souvlaki starts flying with metal skewers.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 14:01 | Link to Comment Ira Thurby-Wright
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"The speed limit on the road to insolvency is has just gone from 55 to 65"

 

No, no, that was back in 2009 that the speed limit got upped. We're now on the Autobahn, you see.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 15:55 | Link to Comment blueridgeviews
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I'm with you carl.  Why isn't Corzine bunking with Madoff? Better political connections?

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 12:13 | Link to Comment Hansel
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EUROPE IS FIXED FOR THE MOTHER FUCKING GLOBAL WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 13:11 | Link to Comment greased up deaf guy
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time to dust off this old gem...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDAmPIq29ro

 

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 13:14 | Link to Comment Oracle of Kypseli
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THE GREEKS APPEAR TO BE THE FIRST AGAIN TO BECOME FREE.

THIS IS A WAKE UP CALL TO ALL ITALIANS, PORTOGUESE, IRISH, AND SPANIARDS TO CONTINUE THE "NO PASARAN"

AS FOR YOU AMERICANS UNLESS YOU START SOON IT MAY BE TOO LATE.

VAMONOS

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 15:56 | Link to Comment blueridgeviews
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Greeks free?  They are all slaves of the state. Take away the state and there's riioting in the streets. Similar things happen to drug addicts.

Fri, 11/18/2011 - 00:03 | Link to Comment Oracle of Kypseli
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Free from outside debt

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 13:16 | Link to Comment fonestar
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your shit's all retarded

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 14:05 | Link to Comment Ira Thurby-Wright
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"Fuk the mo fo global banker wankers"

IMFUBAR - a new term, used in the trenches, when a trader realizes how much of his portfolio is risk diversified with CDS crap hinging on European and Chinese collapse.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 11:21 | Link to Comment aleph0
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" Europe is FIXED!!!! "

How very true ... as in rigged of course

 

 

 

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 12:33 | Link to Comment Ropingdown
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"Europe is FIXED!!!"  as in "neutered."

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 12:34 | Link to Comment Ahmeexnal
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As in...spayed and neutered.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 13:09 | Link to Comment GeneMarchbanks
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Meanwhile the OWS movement is all balls right?

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 13:46 | Link to Comment krispkritter
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Berlusconi: Paid the Hootered...

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 11:22 | Link to Comment AngryGerman
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Somebody please listen to them, please. For the love of god!!

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 11:29 | Link to Comment sabra1
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i'm listening to the boobs, but i hear nothing! rioters making to much noise!

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 11:32 | Link to Comment CrimsonAvenger
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Don't worry, they'll get just as much consideration as did the people protesting the start of the Iraq war.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 13:13 | Link to Comment CPL
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Nope...if you noticed the group behind them are packing.

 

Greeks are going for blood today.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 11:23 | Link to Comment Greater Fool
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Pace yourself, everyone. This party is just getting started.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 11:38 | Link to Comment alien-IQ
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fuck that...I got a designated driver. slice me another rail and fix me a shot.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 11:24 | Link to Comment fuu
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Gas masks and crash helmets bitchez. Get some!

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 11:47 | Link to Comment MsCreant
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Pita helments?

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 12:29 | Link to Comment fuu
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The are indeed a pain in the ass to accessorize with. Luckily everything goes with black.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 11:56 | Link to Comment PY-129-20
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Ah, this is a great business opportunity. Head over to Alibaba and order 200 Anti-riot suits. That'll be the next fashion trend for 2012! Don't miss it out as a watchful citizen. ;) (Attenzione: It's "Made in China" - so some parts could break during a real riot!) And order some EU flags that can be burned in public spaces... and to prove that we are no barbarians - we shall play the Egmont Ouverture!

I'll prefer to use my old and rusty Panther Panzer... - no, not to invade Poland (or some other stupid stuff), just the ECB building in Frankfurt. This may even get me a ZH news article (and afterwards a "chamber" in the mental asylum...)

For now, it is better to hide under a rock. Winter is coming. Foggy, grey, cold - dark days ahead and we're already surrounded - debt is everywhere, even within. And I saw a swan today, not a black one though...

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 12:06 | Link to Comment PY-129-20
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But after Egmont - we should behave like real barbarians and play a good old nordic song to honour our ancestors

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 13:37 | Link to Comment Husk-Erzulie
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Nice! The pipes, the pipes are callin'

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 12:30 | Link to Comment fuu
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<golf clap>

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 12:30 | Link to Comment Crash N. Burn
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"Head over to Alibaba and order 200 Anti-riot suits. That'll be the next fashion trend for 2012!"

 Occupiers should, given the states pechant for chemicals, get protection.

 

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 11:24 | Link to Comment Beau Tox
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Anybody notice how all of the protests which incurred military intervention just 30 years ago are now handled by police or 'security' forces?

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 11:30 | Link to Comment john39
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changing names doesn't change the substance... just sounds better on the TV.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 11:36 | Link to Comment alien-IQ
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yes but remember...Vietnam was a "police action" not a "war".

what's in a name but for the power to alter the perception of the passive observer?

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 13:21 | Link to Comment xcehn
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Yes, the equivalent of today's 'humanitarian intervention.' War is such an unpleasant word to TPTB.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 11:46 | Link to Comment Alex Kintner
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That's because Post 9/11, All Demonstrators Are Considered Terraists and a threat to TPTB. Opps, I meant a threat to national security.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 13:42 | Link to Comment Desert Irish
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30 years ago many protestors were willing to die for a cause and that cause was often the removal of the military. Give it time I can't see the end game for Greece not involving the military

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 11:26 | Link to Comment HD
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Great...just great. If Italy shuts down Spaghettios production we may go the way of the dinosuars! Bring back Berlusconi!

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 11:28 | Link to Comment natty light
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Long chianti.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 11:28 | Link to Comment sabra1
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like i said, nothing that goats strapped with explosives can't fix! after they blow, goat meat on pita! delicious!!!

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 11:28 | Link to Comment dereksatkinson
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Quick everyone! Sell your gold!

 

Idiots.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 11:33 | Link to Comment aleph0
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WHAAAAT ? ... it's only 10:30 !

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 11:29 | Link to Comment firstdivision
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POMO is going on now.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 11:35 | Link to Comment SheepDog-One
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All-out printing and pumping effort just to try to keep things even. This isnt going well.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 11:54 | Link to Comment Whoa Dammit
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The squid is inking to obscure the view.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 11:29 | Link to Comment Stoploss
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This is OT, but anyone know what the reason is behind Hungary's 4.3% up move today? I remember something about a dwngrade to jnk, late last week or early this week.

WTF?

Over..

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 11:35 | Link to Comment lolmao500
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Hungarian 10y treasury bond is at 8.74%... in september it was at 7%...

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 11:29 | Link to Comment PulauHantu29
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<<The history of democracy traces back to Athens to its re-emergence and rise from the 17th century to the present day. According to one definition, democracy is a political system in which all the members of the society have an equal share of formal political power.>>

 

https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/History_of_democracy

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 11:54 | Link to Comment Melin
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Yes.  Pure Democracy = Mob Rule. 

In general, when people today use "Democracy" as a catch-all phrase to describe Western political systems, they're referring to the benefits of democratic processes within those systems where everyone gets an equal vote on representatives and various issues; not pure Democracy.  In a pure democracy, there's no limit to the type of issue that would be put to vote.  If someone doesn't like what you've said, they can put your life to a vote and with a little bad press, down you'd go.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 13:46 | Link to Comment Ghordius
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well said - it's about the democratic processes

it's the same discussion as with scientific method

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 15:59 | Link to Comment blueridgeviews
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Consensus is the new scientific method.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 14:17 | Link to Comment Husk-Erzulie
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Pure Democracy does not preclude a formal system of law, all human societies have them; they arise organically.  Systems of Law come into being to address the needs, or shortcomings, of consensus decision making and to prevent consensus systems from devolving into "mob rule" (I.E. the vigilence commitees of San Francisco).  A pure, consensus driven, libertarian social structure does not preclude "The Rule of Law" or sophisticated legal structures. 

 

The cornerstone of Anglo-Saxon common law, upon which excellent, and elegant, legal structures can be, and are, based, is the inviolable committment that any person, having been accused of a crime, and facing severe punishment, up to, and including, death, shall have the full metre of Justice, and due process, which is accorded to everyone equally and without question.  (What, by the way, is it that the Zero administration, and Zero his own drooling self, simply don't get about The Rule of Law ?)

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 11:30 | Link to Comment been there done that
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Anyone else but me noticed how fucking evil the EU logo is? That funky "e" with all the yellow stars hanging around it? On one hand it look real mickey Mouse stupid, then on the other hand it looks like it could be the cover of 1984. Is it just me?

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 11:45 | Link to Comment Melin
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If you Google EU Flag, most images don't have the contrived E symbol.  Is it recently added? 

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 13:40 | Link to Comment Ghordius
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fucking evil? why? I agree it's somewhat idiotic to add the "e" to the flag

the official flag is still the blue field with the stars

and I somehow like the official common currency logo

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 11:32 | Link to Comment lolmao500
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So when do the NATO strikes against the Greek evil regime begins? Oh wait, since a globalist controls Greece, it's not gonna happen.

When the Greek military or the people overthrows those corrupt bankers puppets, then they will be invaded.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 11:40 | Link to Comment SheepDog-One
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'Unity Govt'....nah that names not workin out, lets change it to the 'Unicorns and Rainbows Govt'....there, fixed.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 11:40 | Link to Comment Dr. Gonzo
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Stock market up 100 points on tear gas rumor.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 11:44 | Link to Comment Spooky Polish
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Wow. 

 

salomons conclusion . point of the day ...

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 11:50 | Link to Comment MsCreant
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Hey, do you need some clearasil for those zits on ur butt?

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 11:40 | Link to Comment Everybodys All ...
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There is that man again buying the Russell 2000 like everything is all good.  Seriously crazy how predictable.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 11:40 | Link to Comment Madcow
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A global police state run by bankers ... who are about to get very very angry.   I'd be careful - they're going to get Sandusky on these people soon enough -

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 11:41 | Link to Comment msjimmied
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"See the guy in the photo there, dangling an ax from his left hand? That’s Greece’s new “Minister of Infrastructure, Transport and Networks” Makis Voridis captured back in the 1980s, when he led a fascist student group called “Student Alternative” at the University of Athens law school. It’s 1985, and Minister Voridis, dressed like some Kajagoogoo Nazi, is caught on camera patrolling the campus with his fellow fascists, hunting for suspected leftist students to bash. Voridis was booted out of law school that year, and sued by Greece’s National Association of Students for taking part in violent attacks on non-fascist law students."

 

http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2011/11/mark-ames-austerity-fascism-in-gr...

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 11:41 | Link to Comment Silver Exterior
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Greek peacekeepers fire teargas at students… Yeah, this is never going to work.. Back 2 police it is.

 

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 11:42 | Link to Comment treemagnet
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These crooks have lots more up their sleeves - the grind will continue for some time (until it doesn't - yeah, I know).  Patience.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 11:46 | Link to Comment kaiserhoff
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Knucks nailed it.  Peace in our time.

Hope the Technocrats don't fix my neighborhood.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 11:47 | Link to Comment Orange Pekoe
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People don't realize banks charge them to use currency. This is why prices rise so high, because the cost to use currency is so high. They don't have to riot, they could just use a currency that doesn't charge them as much.

 

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 11:47 | Link to Comment Jim in MN
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Citizen action in Japan: Take radioactive soil from garden, put in box, mail to Environment Ministry saying 'here--please dispose of properly'.  Government response:  Prompt illegal dumping.

http://www3.nhk.or.jp/daily/english/20111117_28.html

Govt official dumps radiation-contaminated soil

An Environment Ministry official has dumped radiation-contaminated soil near his home in Saitama Prefecture, near Tokyo.

Environment Minister Goshi Hosono revealed this at a news conference on Thursday.

He said a cardboard box containing the soil was sent to his ministry on November 8th from a sender who identifies himself as a resident of Fukushima City.

An enclosed message calls on the ministry to store and dispose of the soil collected from the sender's garden.

The Environment Ministry kept the soil in its warehouse, and the radiation reading taken close to it was 0.18 microsieverts per hour.

A section chief at the ministry said this is no higher than readings taken in many areas in and around Tokyo and suggested he could dispose of the soil in his own garden.

His subordinate then dumped the soil in a vacant lot near his home on Sunday.

This was revealed after another box marked as "ash" was sent to the ministry apparently from the same sender on Wednesday.

The ministry is said to have already retrieved the soil and plans to dispose of it appropriately.

Hosono said he takes the inappropriate dumping of the soil very seriously and apologized. He said it should not have happened, as his ministry has been playing a central role in efforts to clean up areas contaminated with radiation.

Hosono said he will punish the section chief and study taking punitive actions against other senior officials, including himself.

He also said sending radiation-contaminated materials to his ministry will not lead to a fundamental solution to the problem, and called on people not to do so.

Thursday, November 17, 2011 18:41 +0900 (JST)

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 11:49 | Link to Comment NDXTrader
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Not sure if this has been posted or discussed. Pretty incredible article from the Spectator documenting how Merkozy is systematically replacing governments..."The Frankfort Group, Europe's Hit Squad": http://www.presseurop.eu/en/content/article/1175691-frankfurt-group-europe-s-hit-squad

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 11:51 | Link to Comment RobotTrader
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Huge Wall St. protest in Downtown Los Angeles

I'm watching it from the 24th floor.

I'm expecting a massive tear gas attack, they will probably bring out the water hoses soon to clean these bums out.

By the way, millions of hedge funds who are shorting FSLR due to Euro bond weakness are starting to scramble to cover the biggest short play of 2011.

An Epic Squeeze is probably setting up, up 4% already today.

Anybody here going to play it?

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 11:54 | Link to Comment High Plains Drifter
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oh you are watching it from the 24th floor?  sure you are robo. sure you are.  

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 13:13 | Link to Comment greased up deaf guy
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that must mean his mother lives on the 25th floor.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 14:30 | Link to Comment TruthInSunshine
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RoboMomoChaserRearViewPaperTraderUltimateFader meant to say that he's watching from the 13th floor of his mom's basement and that Kraft Macaroni & Cheese is the cheesiest.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 12:04 | Link to Comment lieutenantjohnchard
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sounds like the late carl sagan: "billions and billions" of hedge funds.

robottrader: processing 1099's since 2011.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 13:56 | Link to Comment Husk-Erzulie
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Never change, Robot.  You Rock.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 11:53 | Link to Comment High Plains Drifter
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some bald headed jew named michael kink  ( the name probably fits)  was on cnbc a while ago talking about another stupid organization created to support ows.........

 

http://strongforall.org/blog

 

its just another in a long line of jewish hasbara sayanim infiltration organisms.......coming on line and doing what they do best, infiltrate, disorganize, corrupt and obvuscate and mislead.........etc etc etc..........total bullshit.......

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 11:59 | Link to Comment john39
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there is no end to the scheming is there...  and you can't go back far enough in history to find the beginning either.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 12:06 | Link to Comment High Plains Drifter
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for me, its nothing personal. i don't hate them for what they do. i cannot criticize someone who does something very well.  they do what they do very well and many goyim fully support them in their quest. i  salute their cleverness and their intelligence. they are a worthy adversary.  but having said that i say this. it is us vs. them. therefore, we had better get our act together very soon or we are toast.  with their actions and the  way they are, it takes two to tango.  in order to affect their plans they need our help. white people must wake up about this. for me, its all about awareness. one must be aware of what is going on around them. most sheep are sleeping and steeped deeply in the brainwashing that has gone on and the political correctness and the diversity bullshit arguments.  i have long ago left that reservation and i will not go back. never. 

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 13:09 | Link to Comment john39
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well laid plans for sure, but, watch for them to implode...  even the sheeple will soon be awake, whether they like it or not.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 11:54 | Link to Comment PulauHantu29
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The more I think about this Greek thing the sadder I get. The "Olive" countries are very different despite having similar problems. I traveled all alone all through Greece and was not threatened once. They are a brave, yet peaceful people and their streets are very safe.

The same summer I traveled thru southern Italy and southern France. You can have them! Both of these places were liteally overwhlemed with desparate MENA refugees and it is no wonder I was mugged many evenings and twice in broad daylight. Luckily, I was thrashed only once and not too bad. The police there are laughable.

The under-reporting of the seriousness of 300,000 MENA people, poor, unskilled and angry, into these countries is scary. The long term ramification are serious imo.

I would like to see more (how about one!) anaylsis about these social issues.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 12:00 | Link to Comment LFMayor
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you got mugged how often?  You must just radiate virile menace.   Put the pastel shirts, creased khakis and the sweater vest in the trash, see it that helps.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 12:09 | Link to Comment americanspirit
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You are quite right PH29 - and if you think southern Italy and France are good places to get mugged you should visit just about any large city in Europe where you will be able to enjoy the same delightful experience. There aren't just 300,000 MENA immigrants/refugees - there are millions. Then of course there's the US - try strolling around Detroit, for example, or South LA. I'm afraid that people with no future and no hope just can't resist a little easy money when they see it walking past. Oh, and you're also right about the police. They obviously have more important things to do - like coming down with Blue Flu for higher pay & benefits. /s

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 12:22 | Link to Comment Jim in MN
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Back in the day it was Gypsy youth with cardboard begging signs.  They would get real close, then use the signs as cover to reach for your pockets.  Hilarious local culture, I tell ya. 

 

Hey, that tactic is kinda like the OWS protestors...reaching for the goodies under the cover of the signs!

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 11:59 | Link to Comment the not so migh...
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nothing says fixed more then a gas canister hitting you in the head

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 12:41 | Link to Comment Hephasteus
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Police can't cry so they try to project it onto their victims with tear gas.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRKxrIpwYLM

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 12:00 | Link to Comment yogibear
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That's it you bankers (alias technocrats) come down hard on the population. Throw them in debtors prison  (hint, hint, cheap slave labor).  Next move is to hire secret police and round up the main diussident leaders and make them disappear in the night (where did we see this occur in history before?).  

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 12:01 | Link to Comment Texas Ginslinger
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It was reported the protestors said this; "EU, IMF out" when in fact they meant this "EU, IMF we need a bigger bailout"

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 13:17 | Link to Comment hedgeless_horseman
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You are either incorrigible or a shill.  As long as you have been reading this site, you still do not understand that the bailout funds go to the bank's?  The bailout debt is passed to the public, not the money.

Stop listening to the bank's propaganda on Clear Channel radio stations and read the chapter on The Bailout Game in The Creature From Jekyll Island.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 13:35 | Link to Comment gdgenius
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great book...have it right here on my bookshelf!

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 15:43 | Link to Comment TruthInSunshine
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It's one of the greatest non-fiction books ever written, and I highly recommend the following as an excellent accompanyment acroutement:

http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/end-fed.jpg

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 12:08 | Link to Comment Beau Tox
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'Security Forces' Threat Level Escalation Flowchart.

1) BATON (as in BATON Rouge).

2) If, at first, BATON is ineffective; escalate to TEAR GAS.

3) Should the use of TEAR GAS prove insufficient; employ TASERS.

4) Finally, when supply of TASERS is exhausted; upgrade to full SANDUSKY.

 

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 14:47 | Link to Comment Bicycle Repairman
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There's a movie title:  "The Full Sandusky".

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 12:11 | Link to Comment Hansel
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EUROPE IS FIXED!

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 12:19 | Link to Comment Azannoth
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LMFAO - at the Greeks and the rest of Yurope, you Got What You Wanted(Socialism) and now that you're handed the Bill for IT, you Cry! FU

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 12:16 | Link to Comment HD
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Wait - wasn't the headline Italy a few minutes ago?

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 12:21 | Link to Comment topcallingtroll
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OWS is following the advice given them by a certain troll who was up there on a certain weekend serving food with a couple of food not bombs chicks.

Breaking storefront windows, arson, and destroying property of mom and pop businesses is despicable and unworthy. I showed them a better way.

Dress in suits or like pizza and chinese delivery personnel. Infiltrate the squid's lair and those of the top five banking oligarchs.

Put itching powder on the toilet paper.
Put small amounts of feces and urine in the coffee pots.
Be creative. It is easy to gain access if you understand their ways.

Drudge is reporting the OWS are dressing in suits to blend in. They do not realize half of it.

The infiltration and attacks on the oligarchs have begun a more insideous phase.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 15:14 | Link to Comment MachoMan
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Operation Mayhem?

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 12:24 | Link to Comment marcusfenix
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question- did anybody here know we now have a "Federal Protective Services" police force run by the DHS? well, we do and they are arresting OWS protesters in Portland. According to the article jurisdiction over the property is jointly shared by the city, state and federal govt. the arrests were made in enforcement of a ban on overnight encampments, oddly enough though the photos of the arrests were all clearly taken during daylight hours. one of the "perps" was a photographer (surprise, surprise).

Anyways the point is we now have a federal police (security) force doing what even the FBI hasn't dared in this, arresting protesters exercising their rights to freedom of speech and peaceful assembly on property that isn't even wholly theirs. I'm fairly sure an argument can be made that this is illegal, but as is the case with all banana republic dictatorships laws hardly matter and are only trotted out when it is convenient for the PTBs.

got Gestapo?

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 12:34 | Link to Comment ak_khanna
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It is high time when the citizens of some country stood up against the cartel of bankers and politician­s and told them to stuff it. 

At least some people in the Eurozone have balls to stand up for their country before their tax revenues and their future country's income is looted by the too big to fail institutio­ns. The best option for the people of Greece is to default on their loans and let the bondholder­s pay for making stupid investment­s.

http://www­.marketora­cle.co.uk/­Article245­81.html

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 15:28 | Link to Comment MachoMan
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So...  no systemically important (in the EUROZONE's eyes) entities have looted anything or put anyone on the hook yet?  Really?  If you're trying to get at the point that it's really the sovereigns themselves (laugh at the term), then what difference is there?  Who comes running to benny every time they need a swap infusion?  Who comes running to the TBTF banks to figure out ways of running up debt off balance sheet?

No, they, just as everyone else, are way, way late to the party...  as in decades too late.

There is nothing proactive/with foresight about their actions...  those people with "balls" are merely reactionary after feeling the squeeze of the credit noose.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 12:59 | Link to Comment YesWeKahn
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I am sure that they want some bail out too.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 13:05 | Link to Comment johny2
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Come on greeks, liberate USA of the squid.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 13:10 | Link to Comment Jim in MN
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Occupy protestors will be hitting the Key Bridge in DC at rush hour this PM, wiping out the DC-Northern Virginia rush hour.

Posted at 07:37 AM ET, 11/17/2011
Occupy D.C., NoVa protesters march on Key Bridge: What you need to know http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-buzz/post/occupy-dc-nova-protest...
Thu, 11/17/2011 - 13:27 | Link to Comment The Deleuzian
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I tryed to find that god damn bridge when I drove up to DC years ago...I had a hotel in Arlington...I could see it but I coulden't get there...DC traffic was by far the worst I have ever been in...And I've been in some in my few years...Bad Bad Bad..........

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 13:10 | Link to Comment LawsofPhysics
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As people around the world are forced to negociate with the reality of their circumstances, all one can say is that negociations will continue and war is simply negociation by other means.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 13:29 | Link to Comment Seasmoke
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thanks alot !.....i used to know how to spell negociation, but now its been erased from my memory thanks to your awful spelling

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 13:37 | Link to Comment LawsofPhysics
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Spelling is irrelevant, let the negotiations continue, all your assets is belong to us.

Back on the wheel debt slave.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 13:14 | Link to Comment walküre
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When rumors don't work anymore....

Nice "bounce" in the ESS EN PISS. Only down 5 points this morning. That's all they can muster these days after a 2% drop the day before.

I don't think there's any vapor left in those tubes!

 

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 13:15 | Link to Comment LookingWithAmazement
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All euro-auctions succeeded today. What crisis?

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 13:50 | Link to Comment Ghordius
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shhhht! don't spoil the party

there was this little matter of Draghi's "help" in the matter, anyway

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 13:15 | Link to Comment JR
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As we travel the road to Serfdom, a powerful book from Kirk MacKenzie invokes biblical passages and declares: “We’ve been here before.”

The hopes and dreams for our retirements and our children’s educations and futures have plunged; our protests in Washington, D.C., have been called Astroturf by Nancy Pelosi, and we fast are becoming serfs in the land of plenty bequeathed us by our forefathers. What happened?

Here are the roots, in part, of how we got here, from MacKenzie’s book: Money: Defending your Prosperity :

The Book of Genesis tells the story of Israel’s favorite son, Joseph. Perhaps it is time to objectively reevaluate him and compare what he did to modern day.  Joseph was so arrogant, even Israel (his father) rebuked him and his 11 brothers sought to murder him outright (Bible verses 37.8, 10, and 24)…

Joseph eventually was cast into a pit by his brothers and “was saved by the Midianites, taken to Egypt, and sold to Potaphar, Pharaoh’s captain of the guard. Joseph prospered until he was imprisoned for the alleged rape of Potaphar’s wife. He was eventually released and taken to Pharaoh, to whom he laid out a scheme to confiscate 20% of all corn production to be stored in Pharaoh’s storehouses.

41.33 Now therefore let Pharaoh look out a man discreet and wise, and set him over the land of Egypt.

41.34 Let Pharaoh do this, and let him appoint officers (tax collectors) over the land, and take up the fifth part [ 20% tax] of the land of Egypt in the seven plenteous years.

“Pharaoh agreed, promoted Joseph to rule the land second only to Pharaoh and gave Joseph the officers to enforce the tax. For seven years this was done.

After seven years of plenty, crop production declined. The people, deprived of the ability to save their excess corn against their own future needs, were forced to buy corn from Pharaoh. Joseph was put in charge and in short succession from the people took their money, their animals, their lands, and finally their freedom. Put to work as serfs on lands they once owned, the people were forced to continue paying Joseph a tax of one-fifth of their crops (verses 41.50, 48.14, 48.15-17, 48.20, 48.23 and 48.24).

 Example: 41.56 relates:  And the famine was over all the face of the earth; and Joseph opened all the storehouses, and sold unto the Egyptians… 48.20:  And Joseph bought all the land of Egypt for Pharaoh, for the Egyptians sold every man his field because the famine prevailed over them; so the land became Pharaoh’s… 48.23: Then Joseph said unto the people…here is seed for you, and ye shall sow the land… 48.24: And it shall come to pass in the increase, that ye shall give the fifth part unto Pharaoh, and four parts shall be your own.

Thus, deprived of their ability to save for their own futures, the People eventually lost their money, livestock, lands and homes, and their freedoms; turned into serfs on lands they once owned.”

I call it the Rothschild Plan – the merger of our governments with the central bankers.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 13:39 | Link to Comment LawsofPhysics
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Yep, no way this does not get bloody.  Nevermind the whole carrying potential problem.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 13:58 | Link to Comment Ghordius
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this is a very interesting version of genesis 41.56 you have there

all the others praise Pharao and Joseph for the good management

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 14:33 | Link to Comment JR
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This version is representative of almost all others. For instance, The New International Version of the Life Application Bible reads like this:

41:56: When the famine had spread over the whole country, Joseph opened the storehouses and sold grain to the Egyptians, for the famine was severe throughout Egypt. 57 And all the countries came to Egypt to buy grain from Joseph...42.3: Then ten of Joseph's brothers went down to buy grain from Egypt...

Iv've read these passages many times, as you have,  but did not realize the economic implications that MacKenzie saw. The  recordings in the Bible continue to speak to current events.

 

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 13:16 | Link to Comment Bansters-in-my-...
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Don't let me down my Italian Brothers......

Do whats right,do whats in your hearts....

Both are the same.....

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 13:18 | Link to Comment WTF_247
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The Greeks can riot all they want.  They can burn down every building.  When there is no money to pay for what you want, even massive violence will not get that for you.  Overthrowing the Govt will not make money appear out of nowhere.

 

What is happening in Greece willl soon come to every country in the world, every state in the U.S.  For over 40+ years they have played the ponzi scheme of promising things that CAN NEVER be realized for most of the participants.  Most of it has to do with retirement benefits and social programs.  People want to pay $100 per month for 30 years and then receive $5000 per month in payouts for the next 30 years - no matter what rate of return you attach to it, the math never works.  People are going to have to come to the stark realization they were lied to and will never ever get what they think they are owed.  No amount of violence can change  the scheme that was played on the populations.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 13:41 | Link to Comment walküre
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You are right of course but you omit one crucial aspect.

The designers of this racket are well established, well financed and could care less about the masses that paid into the racket all those years and believed the lies and the propganada it was peddled by those in charge.

Of course it's bogus! But like any other MLM or PONZI scam, the top makes off with billions while the rest goes broke in the process.

We don't need THEM, they need US to believe and to be patient and to be humble and modest and expect THEM to take care of US.

Bullshit! THEY are the cancer and WE need to remove THEM.

There are options and alternatives and there's maybe even a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 13:44 | Link to Comment topcallingtroll
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I definitely look forward to the death of socialism. However politicians and oligarchic financial interests share the blame.

Most people are stupid and easily led by promises of something for norhing. The politicians should have had better ethics than to bribe peoplw for votes by promising to give them other peoples money.

Target the politicians and oligarchs. Dont torch small business.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 13:55 | Link to Comment JR
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247... Overthrowing the government will not make money appear out of nowhere?  It does for Ben.

Central bankers can make money out of nothing.  Explained Sir Josiah Stamp, president of the Bank of England and the second richest man in Britain in the 1920s: “The modern banking system manufactures money out of nothing. The process is perhaps the most astounding piece of sleight of hand that was ever invented. Banking was conceived in inequity and born in sin. Bankers own the earth. Take it away from them but leave them the power to create money, and with a flick a pen, they will create enough money to buy it back again.  Take this great power away from them and all great fortunes like mine will disappear, for then this would be a better and happier world to live in. But if you want to continue to be the slaves of bankers and pay the cost of your own slavery, then let bankers continue to create money and control credit.” (Speaking at the University of Texas, 1927)

As for, People want to pay $100 per month for 30 years and then receive $5000 per month in payouts for the next 30 years…

Don’t judge me by what others pay.  I’ll be paying $14,204 into “social security” this year (less than the $15,000 plus because of a temporary “state-of-the–economy reprieve).  And then be taxed on what I receive back at retirement…   How much better if I had been allowed to keep that money and invest it myself in a medium of exchange  that had an intrinsic value, was scarce, and was resistant to counterfeiting, i.e.,  had a stable value, that itself neither declined or increased in value…

 

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 13:21 | Link to Comment topcallingtroll
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Of course they blame the wrong people.

Target the oligarchs and your politicians.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 13:25 | Link to Comment fuu
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But their politicians are Government Sachs employess, seems like a good place to start to me.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 13:45 | Link to Comment topcallingtroll
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A two for one!
Excellent.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 13:25 | Link to Comment Carlyle Groupie
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Lasagna the riot dog bitchez!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6VgpEAAWOQ

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 13:26 | Link to Comment Seasmoke
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the US Embassy ????...................how long before they are put on the axle of evil list ???

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 13:27 | Link to Comment long-short
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OT response @Stoploss hungary pop (likely manipulated by underwater longs who needed to exit due to margin calls) apparently due to "rumours" that the country has just noticed they can't fix the mess they waded into and need outside help (ie IMF).

 

unfortunately it has just become apparent that the IMF has no money for such peripheral problems (um...or core problems come to that), so the "rumours" have now been "denied".  lets hope those longs managed to get out in time...

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 13:28 | Link to Comment bill1102inf
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Wow, sure wish our currency was tied to something that can move 2.5% in ONE DAY, something thats price is set by the futures market which is leveraged 100:1, and something that has less uses than cow hooves.  

 


Thu, 11/17/2011 - 13:36 | Link to Comment whoisjohngalt11
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 So Glen Beck was Right this Nov 17 occupy wall Street is tied in with the Greeks and this is orchestrated by the Hate America (99% the Communist world  against the 1 % Americans) NOT JUST THOSE ON WALL STREET BUT US MAINSTREETERS TOO ........

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 13:43 | Link to Comment Carlyle Groupie
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I'd say he's wrong again. In most cases it's not hatred of real Americans rather hatred of the 'Israeli Types' who pay Glenn to flap his mouth.

It's time to clarify the distinction.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 13:37 | Link to Comment economics1996
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I need to buy more ammo.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 13:43 | Link to Comment Tom_333
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Sorry to disappoint - out of an European perspective this is not a great deal when it comes to the Mediterreanen countries.It´s just a sign of the slow-boil situation in that country.We will see it also in Italy , Spain and France. You will get my attention when there´s an ample amount of live rounds going off or when you provide clips of tanks rolling into Syntagma square

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 13:54 | Link to Comment cdskiller
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Take your videocameras down to Foley Square today at 5, kids. It's going to be ugly.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 14:05 | Link to Comment tmwsiy17
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Research N17-Greece, then look at the poster created for todays NYC Direct Action  http://occupywallst.org/action/november-17th/ (your first thought might be Tiananmen Square-but you'd be wrong)..the Greeks and people in Europe know what this poster represents-and its related to the Greece anniversary and N17).

Now look at the day of their suppossed 2 month anniversary, twitter hashtags (#N17), etc., so you still think these people are the 99% starting some grassroots action and this is all a coincidence-or perhaps, the true revolutionaries behind the scenes are pushing the buttons, stirring the pot, i.e. cloward and piven/salinsky style. Revolutionaries really love the symbolism of their dates, don't they? 

I love the lack of a message too, they're very proud of that and advertising that fact, might they be just waiting for someone to arise with  a clear message once all hell breaks loose, perhaps someone behind the scenes who has all this figured out already, just waiting for his moment.. who could that be?  Hmmm, van jones is such a polite and smart figure with all sorts of great ideas..we'll see, we'll see..Do your research, know who you support, know what you believe in, and don't go to where the government tells you where to go. 

We will all have to choose sides soon. Get prepared people, people are about to eat each other... Be able to protect and feed your family, loved ones and neighbors.  Be a lifeboat to someone..this is the only way we'll make it through without turning in a totalitarian regime.

I really can't believe I'm writing this shit...man times have changed and would love to go back to the times when I had my head in the sand..Now its all about preparing and protecting my family...Good luck everyone..

  

 

 

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 14:39 | Link to Comment walküre
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The more things change, the more they stay the same!

 

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 14:29 | Link to Comment crackerjack_finance
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Europe is in an extraordinarily difficult situation becuse the monetary policy mechanism is breaking down.  More economic stress is leading to higher rates, less credit, and defacto tightening.  Relating the dilema to Spain:

http://crackerjackfinance.com/2011/11/que-lastima-%E2%80%93-spain-in-a-v...

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