Guest Post: 80 Years Later - Same Culprits, Same Rage

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AldousHuxley's picture

of course the elites are all connected.

How Steve Jobs befriended Clinton....let the easy credit flow so dumbass Americans waste their money on Apple products by getting more in debt.

'It's hard to travel to see your child when you're President. I've got a place out in the country. You and Hillary can stay there and bring Chelsea and her friends there anytime you want to,'" Clinton recalled.

BigDuke6's picture

How the fuck could someone red aldous??   The elites always come together in ways you never expect you just have to look - tony blair being godfather to rupert murdoch's spawn ... it goes on and on , green from me aldous as if that means a fuck.

i love the photos of the depression , they show people like my folks... we were all slaves back then for the elites.. not just the whinging coloureds who try to give me a guilt trip to get more hand outs - get fucked....we were all eating shit, moan at the banksters not us honkeys.

our governments have been investing in sustaining and growing failure, at the expense of investing in potential and success.

pacifying welfare for losers, to useless education, to endless bureaucratic empire-building, to the fucked up bank bailouts and corruption networks operating under the veil of political lobbying, the common thread uniting western government policy has been investment in failure.

it has to change


boooyaaaah's picture

It could be worse.
The free market system shows the corruption. Dead fish floating tells you something about water quality. Unsustainable --- the irony that solar power was supposed to cure our our economy of unsustainable oil gas and nuke power. Solar is a dead fish floating in a corrupt economy.
With so many "educated" looking for a solution to foist on the rest of us, maybe the solution is no solution. Or better, erase all the solutions that have been enacted for our benifit.
Then the invisible hand will give us our just rewards ratherthan slapping us down. And showing us our mistakes by floating fish.
Fish that the present batch of experts feel the need to resuscitate.
First step let the big banks fail.
2 nd delete all government subsidies into the economy.
Government and economy is a dicotomy.
Sure there will be Henry Fords and Steve Jobs who will gather more riches to themselves than others. The goal of good government is to prevent them through political connection from expanding beyond whatbeyond economic rewards
As Adam Smith stated the uber rich will and must disperse their
Their wealth in a more efficient and beneficial manner than government politicians buying votes with the help of corrupt financiers.
Financiers who are scheming rather than investing and a floating fish that are polluting the economy.

rwe2late's picture

"the uber rich will and must disperse their
Their wealth in a more efficient and beneficial manner" - in your wet dreams

"than government politicians" - if you mean corrupted government politicians, then you have set the bar so low as to be meaniningless; and if you mean any government politician, then you obviously reject the idea democracy could ever succeed.

"buying votes with the help of corrupt financiers" - since when do the financiers not belong to the "uber rich", all of whom use their wealth to influence (bribe) politicians to favor the "uber rich" over everyone else?

Faith in the never-existent "free market" property rights of the "uber rich" is overblown.

Abitdodgie's picture

You people are so brainwashed to keep saying that we live in a Democracy, we do not we live in a Republic, there is a BIG differance, don't be fooled by the lie.

Raymond K Hessel's picture

I just do not understand people like you.  Stalin murdered more people than Hitler.  Together, they killed tens of millions. How is fascism or marxism the answer?  I'm assuming the other option to capitalism is fascism or marxism.


See how other people live in those regimes.  Why would you think that 's the answer.

Unless you're going to wow us with a new economic system no one has seen before, what are you suggesting?

You just want manna to rain down on your smug empty head.  You're a fleabagger.

Rhodin's picture

How many has the US MIC war machine murdered in undeclared "wars"?  How long before they bring those troops home, to maybe do the same here?

Communist systems own (steal, nationalise) the corporations, and everything is run by a small elite.  Under facism, either the major corporations own the government, or they have an "arrangement" with the government, and everything is run by a slightly larger elite.

In USA the anonymous stockholders, of 4-8 corporations own the banks + Fed, most politicians, media, and most other major corporations.  We are run by a small hidden elite oligarchy.  You could call it corporatism or "soft" facism. 

It seems all large systems with a monopoly of force eventually are corrupted and misuse that force.   So far the owners oligarchy has done better than marxism or hard facism, but it seems headed in the same direction.  Perhaps that course can be corrected.  Time will tell, but it does not look good.


snowball777's picture

Come now, your Dukeness. 'Coloureds'? Have you been savaged by the Brits so long that you've adopted their antiquated spelling? Gone 'native'?

The banksters (dipshit CEOs, realtors, and 'money managers') are "you honkeys".

Follow the money. Do you think the elderly are keeping their Medicare payouts? Don't welfare dollars ALL end up in corporate tills?

Where precisely do you envision these 'losers' finding gainful employment (when they're showing up at 100X the number of positions available)?

You're only a slave if you let them make you so...

"In Syria, the men used to castrate themselves in honor of Ataratha. But when King Abgar became a believer, he commanded that anyone who emasculated himself should have a hand cut off. And from that day to the present no one in Urhâi emasculates himself anymore."

"...some monks saw, in his ear, the image of Mary."



irishlink's picture

On Thursday last Aviva Insurance announced that they were going to pull almost 1000 jobs out of Ireland over the next two years. The CEO said that Irish workers had an attitude of entitlement as he took home a wage package of almost £2million sterling over the previous year. He could probably feed all the families who are about to loose their livelyhoods for one year and he dared to make that comment. The top .01% are soo out of touch it is truly frightening.

Monedas's picture

The Irish are trouble makers with attitude ! Move the work to Northern Ireland....but fast !    Ever buggered a Leprechaun ? Nice cuttin' ! Squeaky tight ! Monedas 2011 Comedy Jihad Leprechaun Porn

Kayman's picture

Of course Monedas could be on the receiving end of a little Irish, but grabbing his ankles comes naturally to Monedas.

Rhodin's picture

...let the easy credit flow so dumbass Americans waste their money on Apple products by getting more in debt.

Meanwhile most of those Apple products are made in China by Foxcomm using workers who are paid about $10 per day.  The workers are unhappy with wages and conditions.   Many worker suicides have occurred.  Foxcomm's plan is to replace the ungrateful workers with robots.

Akrunner907's picture

You can stretch a rubber band only so far and then it snaps, and you are the one that gets stung.  Prepare for this rubber band to break soon.

FinHits's picture

I demand to know Where are the Customers' Yachts? 

Fuck the customers, I want to know where is my yacht? Have I been lied to... Noooo.... Can't be.

Double up or nothing. This time it will apparently work the right way!

Timeless Advice from 1920's Wall Street

(The USD 132 hardcover price is a case in point. Sucker. Every minute.)

OldPhart's picture

To hell with yachts, I want my flying car!

Monedas's picture

Who wants to hang with poor people....they don't loan money, they don't hire people, they won't invest in your Ponzi schemes, they don't throw elegant parties and they don't have guest rooms ! Screw 'em !        If Obammy's Mammy moved up from a Kenyan "hut-in-tote" to a well financed CIA undermensch....more power to her ! It sounds like her innate, white intelligence was coming on line a little ! What's the point of having a pussy....if you can't milk the system a little ! Monedas 20011 Comedy Jihad Island Hopping Tour

Quixotic_Not's picture
Behind OWS? Meet the Marxist spawn of Frances Fox Piven who wants a militant revolution

The current meme among the media elites is that the Occupy Wall Street protests are an organic and spontaneous movement created by college-aged students who are frustrated with the cost of student loans, housing, health care and overall corporate greed.

If that were true I’d like to state the obvious, that behind every student is a teacher.

Meet Professor John Asimakopoulos (for purposes of this article we’ll call him Dr. John). He is an associate professor of sociology at the City University of New York-Bronx where he works beside Marxist revolutionary Frances Fox Piven, the quickly aging and fragile grandmother who is best known for being one-half of the Cloward and Piven strategy. Dr. John has also been published alongside other famous Marxists intellectuals such as Howard Zinn, Ward Churchill, and Bill Ayers, advisor to/lifelong friend of/acquaintance of/not associated with President Obama. Among Dr John’s 2,000+ Facebook friends are Wade Radthke from ACORN, Cindy Sheehan, an anti-war activist, and Lisa Fithian, one of the leading organizers of the Occupy Wall Street movement.

OWS: The Perestroika Deception Develops a Face

In recent weeks, every American has watched with morbid curiosity as swarms of hate-filled, sputtering communist loons and Hippie-wannabees have taken to the streets, shutting down cities and leaving a path of destruction wherever they go.  Although many Americans disagree with the stated agenda of these radicals, most think them harmless, dismissing their acts as pathetic attempts to resurrect the failed social movements of the sixties.

But this group of determined radicals is not to be laughed at.  Lisa Fithian, the primary OWS organizer, is an unrepentant communist and proponent of government and economic destabilization as a means of achieving totalitarian centralization along communist lines.  Writing for a socialist rag, Fithian once stated, “I have no issue with property destruction…We’re in a society where property is idolized, so a lot of people don’t get it yet that it doesn’t really matter.”

While this should shock Americans (and would, if the facts were being reported) this is nothing new.  This is just the latest tactic in a long-term strategy that has been quietly moving forward for decade...

Lord Welligton's picture

I thought you were going off to make final preparations?



Quixotic_Not's picture


Lech Walesa Not Attending #OccupyWallStreet in New York After Discovering Hard-Left Organizers


The Polish champion of freedom and liberty, founder of Solidarity, winner of the 1984 Nobel Peace Prize, and first President of modern Poland Lech Walesa had been rumored to possibly be traveling to New York to stand with Occupy Wall Street protesters.


Based on our discussion and intervention, President Walesa is not going to get involved with the OWS.  He is not comfortable with the “organizations” behind the movement.


This spring, when President Obama visited Poland, President Walesa refused to meet with him.


America is a center-right country politically.  The Occupy movement, at its core, is a hard-left movement. If successful, America would cease to be governed on our founding principles of freedom and liberty. Thus, we react to the news that Lech Walesa will not support the OWS movement with much thankfulness...

Hohum's picture

I heard you the first time, dude.

AldousHuxley's picture

better than nothing offered by liberals and republicans alike.

TrulyBelieving's picture

How bout offering up something a good ol Patriot would demand.  A return to Constitutional Law, Freedom for the individual, Equal Justice for All, Small limited govt, Rule of Law, a free market. A country where honesty and integrity rule the day and corruption is not tolerated.   I know I am dreaming, my guess is that none of you even think this idea would work to begin with, not to mention it would'nt be worth trying because you would lose what you have, you know like free things from the gov,t. That being more important to you than freedom and liberty and all. So I say we are indeed in big trouble with no way out. You'll see to it that it gets worse for all, your hell  on earth that will come of you ignoring freedom and Liberty.   Nuff said

AldousHuxley's picture

Sure I'm all about freedom from bankster bailouts, less taxes for the middle class too.

How about if you work more than 1 year, you pay 15% income tax just like the long term capital gains tax?


“In the land of the free they tax me but not G.E.!”


I don't see Tea Party protesting like this, but they should. GE and GM got bailed out for messing around in exotic financials instead of manufacturing.

Protesters Occupy GE CEO Jeff Immelt's Connecticut Front Lawn

TrulyBelieving's picture

You are not for individual freedom. You want the spoils of productive people into your pocket instead of the banks. You fight the banks for the spoils, you are no better than the banks. You are indeed a foul person, but you could change.

Quixotic_Not's picture

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen." ~ Samuel Adams

James-Morrison's picture

If you chase only material riches,

you will die at the back of the pack, a poor man.

Ask any eighty-year old, gasping for his last breath,

stuck in an oxygen tent,

as the plug is pulled.  

Monedas's picture

We need a Devil's Island for old Socialists ! Leave them there to create a Socialist paradise free of materialism ! Monedas 2011 I went to a Socialist prison colony and an abundant, Capitalist economy broke out !

boooyaaaah's picture

Taxes are so over done.
As Bachman pointed out the Gov spends 40% more than it takes in.
The gov does not come hat in hand begging the tax payer for this money.
This was the constitutional method. This is the basis for government of the people. The snakey pols have to beg for money.
No longer.
The banks can create money out of thin air. And every thing the touch turns to paper gold. And now they touch the workings of the free economy and turn it to paper gold. Worthless. They will mourn what they have done when the bullies take over.
But we the people were seduced, it wasn't the first time, it sounded so good the gov could spend and spend without begging us for more and more
Now they don't need us
They control their own purse strings
Rather than pandering to the taxpayer they pander to the non taxpayer who votes. And creates a false economy to care for their needs.
What did we expect from them. After all pols have their own self interest at heart.

4 wheel drift's picture

simple and elegant.


i second your thoughts.


fuck the communists,

fuck the democratss,

fuck the republicans.

and above all....


fuck the free $hit army too

Hephasteus's picture

You talk alot about ignorance. Did you know canadians put their milk in bags?

How many people have ever heard of that?

You see because it's impractical and crazy and stupid. So they don't just come out and say hey guess what we put milk in bags.

The universe keeps it's secrets.

Monedas's picture

I hate that, too ! In Mexico city, the low cost, welfare, pseudo milk comes in two liter plastic bags ! Socialist austerity that would make Scrooge wince ! No label, no open here, no calorie info, no cancer warning, no deposit, no litter warning, no allergy alert, no crib death warning ! The Socialist hate to follow their own rules as much as Turbo Tax Timmay hates to pay taxes ! Monedas 2011 Comedy Jihad Milk of Human Kindness

4 wheel drift's picture

Try reasoning with an ignorant maddened crowd...


-lol maddened ignorant crowd and reasoning -an oxymorron 


hollocaust of the arseholes is what's next...... 

deservingly so...

AnAnonymous's picture

A return to Constitutional Law, Freedom for the individual, Equal Justice for All, Small limited govt, Rule of Law, a free market.


Language as a means to connect with reality is degrading in the US world order. As usual, US citizens want to see the causes everywhere but where they lie: it is low IQ people, migrants, public education etc...

Now lets look at the quoted sentence.

A return. Okay.

It implies the following, a start, an origin, an already existing state, condition etc...

So question: When,where for Constitutional Law, Freedom for the individual, Equal Justice for All, Small limited govt, Rule of Law, a free market?

The tearing down of language as a means to connect to reality has little to do with public education, IQ etc...

It has most to do with US citizenism and US citizens thriving on propaganda. They keep distorting words in order to propagate their twisted rewriting of basic events.

Please feel free to tell when and where for enable that return.

TrulyBelieving's picture

It's easy to know what enables a return to Constitutional Law. The fact you don't know tells me it would be a waste of time explaining. Instead, for more understanding start by getting a dictionary and look up the word 'parasite' then apply that definition to yourself.

Raging Debate's picture

An Anon - It depends what the meaning of is is

dehdhed's picture

"... all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."   -- Declaration of Independence  July 4th, 1776

toady's picture

I know, right?

I usually don't have time for these multi-page, spam, junk-blast posts, but that Q tool posted the same list a couple of days ago, and it looked like it might actually be a REAL list of demands, so I made the time to read it. It actually looks reasonable!

And since the main issue against the demands will end up being 'its too expensive', here is a list of cuts to pay for it;

'obamacare' goes away since there is now medicare for all. (saves roughly 10% GDP annually)

Cut DHS, a massive do-nothing.

Expire the bush tax cuts.

Well, you get the idea.

Basically get rid of massive government and corporate subsidies and subsidise the US citizens instead.

amanfromMars's picture


Quixotic_Not, Howdy,

Your post of Sat, 10/22/2011 - 19:36, failed to include this important and relevant bit of information. The omission suggests that you are a troll/shill/sad purveyor of lies and a less than skilled sockpuppet ...... 

Proposed List Of Demands For Occupy Wall St Movement! (User Submitted)

Posted Sept. 25, 2011, 3:46 p.m. EST (27 days ago) by anonymous

Admin note: This is not an official list of demands. This is a forum post submitted by a single user and hyped by irresponsible news/commentary agencies like Fox News and This content was not published by the collective, nor was it ever proposed or agreed to on a consensus basis with the NYC General Assembly. There is NO official list of demands. ……



Quixotic_Not's picture

"Fear is the foundation of most governments; but it is so sordid and brutal a passion, and renders men in whose breasts it predominates so stupid and miserable, that Americans will not be likely to approve of any political institution which is founded on it."  ~ John Adams

toady's picture


Do you HAVE an original thought, or is your entire universe just cut-n-paste?

Carlyle Groupie's picture

"suggests that you are a troll/shill/sad purveyor of lies and a less than skilled sockpuppet"

True dat. Looks like Glenn Beck got another account on the hedge!

njdoo7's picture

Do you mean the post that only linked to an article?  An article whose first two sentences are:

"The official OWS website posted the “demands” of a supporter a few days ago. It is not certain if the demands posted below represent the agreed upon consensus of the movement"


So it indeed did include "this important and relevant bit of information."


Your claim that these details were ommitted, when they are in the first two sentences, "suggests that you are a troll/shill/sad purveyor of lies and a less than skilled sockpuppet."


You're not only "less than skilled" but a morally inept and incompetent cheap whore of disinformation.  Take your propaganda and fuck off. 

riley martini's picture

 Anyone could claim to be OWS or  tea party offically easy . Look how easy the Fascist republicans took over the tea party . So far the tea party republican have fought to lower wages for worker . I am sure they are well on their way to being million aires from bribes and insider trading by now . Not even a mention of massive fraud against Pensions or any corporate crimes against the American people .

James-Morrison's picture

A sad commentary on the times we live in.

Socialism is being debated as a viable system, after years of false-starts.

This is a glaring symptom of the student debt bubble.

There is a debt jubilee around the corner. All is forgiven.  

toady's picture

I know ALOT of people who pray for a debt jubilee every day.

I keep think I need to run up a bunch of debt before the jubilee!