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Guest Post: AIG Chairman Says That You Just Don’t Get It

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Thu, 11/17/2011 - 11:54 | 1887012 DaveyJones
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he's right, we never do seem to get it. They always do

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 12:05 | 1887063 CPL
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Let's just call the whole thing off.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 12:11 | 1887092 SilverRhino
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He's right,  I don't fargin' get it.   The economy and the icehole banking systems of the world are passing into the shitter, their bells are in a sling and the silver price is basically crashing. 

  • Silver Bid: 32.56 Ask: 32.66 Change:  -1.21
  •  Gold Bid: 1,737.70 Ask: 1,739.70 Change:  -36.60

Can anyone explain that one?  

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 12:22 | 1887115 tekhneek
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C'mon SR you know they always hammer it before delivery to shake out the weak hands. They're just not doing it a 48 hours before this time. I kind of see this sell off lasting til possibly $27, even as low as $25 then it's margin hike time to tame the volatility (lulz)

Apparently JP's getting ready for a big delivery month in December too, moving 1.1 million oz from eligible to registered last night.

But what the hell do I know?


Can anyone else confirm what the doc is saying?

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 12:44 | 1887245 tarsubil
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Yeah. Look at the monthly chart and $25 does seem a possibility. $60-80 in the next year is also a possibility. Total backside tearage as the SHTF shortly after that seems logical too.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 13:55 | 1887547 SilverRhino
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Damn, it's already that time again?   Thanks. Works for me I just need to keep my cash handy. :-)

So delivery is based on a quarterly schedule?  I need to figure out the next three windows for buying physical (assuming these bullshit shenannigans continue)

After thinking on this for a little bit more, this might be one of the last times they get to do this and are prepping for massive deliveries as connected people EXIT the paper into physical.   Definitely time to get ready for buying.  


Thu, 11/17/2011 - 12:26 | 1887154 CPL
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Paper is collapsing.  Physical is still +5% if you are buying it retail.


The situation is simple.  Ignore the "market".  None of us control it, have ownership, administer infrastructure of it.  Why are you even using paper silver as the pointer?  Call a jeweler.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 12:46 | 1887256 tarsubil
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Watching the market can help you buy at a discount for maximum stacks for your fiat.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 14:00 | 1887624 SilverRhino
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Because we're planing on buying the fucking dips .... fuck the jewlers and their 200% minimum markups over spot.  :-)

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 16:47 | 1888841 terryfuckwit
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better still can anyone tell me which is worse for the tbtf... silver flying up or flying down...

going up brings attention to the silver price and will increase sales

going down massively increases sales with buyers like me who fill their boots when they can and further ensures decoupling of physical from paper making the play ridiculously obvious and recruiting more and more bugs to the cause and causing shortages...

up or down = potential shortages and hence result in clear and dramatic negative effect for those who would like to extend  the duration of the the suppression..

Even if this time we have genuine  liquidation of the paper slv etc these punters may relaise it's time to hold the metal... Paper is meaningless and decoupling will occur... expect crazy swings and keep stacking

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 17:02 | 1888960 hoos bin pharteen
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With big deliver month coming up, expect a margin hike soon, bitchez!

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 13:49 | 1887629 pelican
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I wish I could kick him in the mouth.  It might be worth the jail time.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 13:52 | 1887654 Chuck Walla
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The Space Cowboy speaks!

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 12:11 | 1887095 Sudden Debt
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I think he means:

HE GETS IT (the money)

WE DON'T (the money)

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 12:15 | 1887108 Popo
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He talks repeatedly about "Saving the System" as if that's a good thing.

Clearly he doesn't understand.  

The system is the problem.  The system needs to implode.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 12:27 | 1887160 yogy999
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You nailed it perfectly! The current ponzi we live under makes us powerless to control our destiny's if we live by "the rules". We either have to live in a Black Market, (so-to-speak), or suffer the consequences. Anyone on this board already knows to live off-the-grid to a point but wouldn't it be so much better if we had a "system" that rewarded thrift and allowed us all to build a future. I love this websight and the posters accordingly. What a breath of freash air.


Thu, 11/17/2011 - 12:26 | 1887155 ForWhomTheTollBuilds
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"If they do it in such a way, that you get your money back... and you get a profit..."


Well, shit man, thanks.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 12:44 | 1887246 pupton
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Some people call him "the space cowboy", some call him "the gangster of love"...and some people call him "Maurrrrice", cuz he speaks of the pompetus of love.


Thu, 11/17/2011 - 12:12 | 1887097 Au_Ag_CuPbCu
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Due to recent budget cuts and the rising cost of electricity, gas and oil, as well as current market conditions, the Light at the End of the Tunnel has been turned off.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 12:20 | 1887135 Toolshed
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And another keyboard bites the dust......too fucking funny!! +1

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 12:50 | 1887287 Delmar
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the light at the end of the tunnel is an oncoming train

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 12:57 | 1887324 The Big Ching-aso
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I think his real name is Steve Shiller.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 13:20 | 1887373 Whoa Dammit
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How come no one ever asks any of these fuck heads a real question, like "How do you feel about directly causing and profiting from the middle class' loss of $7 trillion in the residential real estate market?"

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 19:27 | 1889587 The Alarmist
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And them
And after all, we're only ordinary men ....

That should be the theme of OWS.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 11:55 | 1887016 Lazane
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easy to say when you live in the swells, not so easy to survive out here in the surf. 

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 11:55 | 1887017 Sudden Debt
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Even if things don’t collapse we cannot just dump 77% of the company on the market; we’d need to sell in smaller lots over time.


Thu, 11/17/2011 - 12:21 | 1887133 CPL
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Yeah, but inflation wouldn't have kicked in properly.  AIG and the rest of the turds in the Federal toilet bowl all required that their PM bets came with a nice 300% increase.


So whatever AIG is paying back to the  government pretty much worth a lots less than the granted boon or TARP/QE x.x/Bailout Dark pool/Usual slush funds/Pensions/etc.  This was all discussed at the FAS committees three years ago with great glee and happiness.  Same fuckers that took out mark to market on housing. 


By the time AIG is finished paying back it's boon, that cool Trillion given will be worth a 100 million in real value.  Meanwhile they'll make believe the trillion with 20 times the leverage (on a loan remember) is worth 20 trillion dollars in some phoney POS CDS/bond scheme that would have Charles Ponzi shaking his head in disbelief.


Of course that was the full intention of all the actions done so far.  So the AIG Chairman is not remotely correct in our understanding of the situation.  It is crystal clear.  We understand fully to the point we are being led down the path of a Weinmar Banana Republic.  Main street would have survived a bust, ditched the FIAT crap and switched to barter.  It's a situation that is untenable to a joker like the spoil'd little blue blood shit sitting in the Chairman's seat which was given to him by proxy of his father.


All those years of saved labour and capital put into the system in the expectation of a return is what is throwing these idiots for a curve.  Somehow they are surprised that nobody is willing to get it stuck in their ass by "them" and the rest of their banker ilk.


The funniest thing of all is when main street builds the gallows, he'll still wonder how nobody "got it" until the noose breaks his neck and suffocates him to death with his own fat ass courtesy of gravity.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 11:56 | 1887019 bigwavedave
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Occupy Steve Miller

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 12:15 | 1887114 semperfi
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Bubba Occupy Steve Miller's Hole in jail

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 13:32 | 1887479 pupton
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Thu, 11/17/2011 - 11:56 | 1887021 Quadlet
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Large block trades on the COMEX from yesterday:

Code Contract Type Exchange Price Qty Time OGG2|1780C Gold Options OPT COMEX 7910 600 14:20:37 CT OGM2|1780C Gold Options OPT COMEX 14600 300 14:20:37 CT
Thu, 11/17/2011 - 11:56 | 1887022 YesWeKahn
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"What can one say to this without resorting to profanity"

none. This guy deserves the best profanity.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 11:57 | 1887025 alien-IQ
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Hubris...plain and simple. Hubris.

(there...I refrained from using any motherfuckin profanity)

ooops...my bad.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 11:58 | 1887026 AngryGerman
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anyyone has a rope?

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 12:08 | 1887076 tarsubil
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Is this why bug out bags are supposed to have one?

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 11:58 | 1887028 MaggieL
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Finance Addict needs to not use "you" when referring to OWS. 

I am not an Occupant. Maybe that's something Finance Addict doesn't get. 

Protip: The Bolsheviks (Russian for "Majority") weren't the majority until nobody challenged their claim that they were.




Thu, 11/17/2011 - 12:11 | 1887090 Mr. Anonymous
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Please STFU, Tory.  We're coming for your monarchy.


Thu, 11/17/2011 - 12:38 | 1887218 Cliff Claven Cheers
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"Our Congress has become the legislative branch of eBay — Congressmen are auctioned off to the highest bidder; they even have a Buy It Now button to get specific legislation passed. The executive branch has fallen under the sunk cost fallacy, afraid to prosecute banks because we spent so many billions bailing them out. It turns out that even our once venerable Supreme Court is just as corrupted, with lobbyists partying with Justices and backdooring ethics by hiring their wives."

Hit the nail on the head.


Thu, 11/17/2011 - 21:38 | 1889910 Bananamerican
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haven't checked out Ritholtz in a loooooooong time...

maybe he's coming around from his SoftPatch™ views....

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 11:58 | 1887031 Silenus
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A bullet through his head would change his attitude.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 12:14 | 1887110 semperfi
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Too easy on him - Bubba in his hole in jail for a couple years is much better.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 12:37 | 1887217 Silenus
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I stand corrected.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 12:50 | 1887284 xcehn
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Bullets cost money.  There's a cost-effective alternative for that.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 11:59 | 1887035 Spastica Rex
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AIG Chairman Says That "You Just Don’t Get It."

Truer words have never been spoken - I sure the fuck don't.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 11:59 | 1887037 Peter K
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One always needs to separate the messanger from the message. Message is 100% correct, messanger.... manbe no:)

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 12:28 | 1887164 tickhound
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Preserving a failed institution is 100% correct?  Socializing risk is 100% correct?  To avoid some pain?  Fuck the messenger, the message, and its supporter.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 11:59 | 1887038 tony bonn
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"What can one say to this without resorting to profanity?"

i will resort to profanity by calling steve miller an arrogant full of himself cock sucking cunt...

wall street should have been liquidated like the cheap stupid whore that it is....it is managed by pretentious, foolish flatulent frat boys who are too incompetent to do anything but lavish bonuses upon themselves for untold fraud...

fuck the banksters.....

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 12:43 | 1887242 Cliff Claven Cheers
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Wisdom is always proved by its results.  When the whole system is collapsed because of all the corruption, maybe then will wallstreet understand how wrong they were.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 12:49 | 1887274 xcehn
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They will NEVER admit they are lower than VERMIN, no matter what.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 13:38 | 1887533 11b40
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What do you have against cock sucking cunts?

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