Guest Post: American Military Pit Bulls And Their Handlers

Tyler Durden's picture

Submitted by Ben Tanosborn

American Military Pit Bulls And Their Handlers

It is not what the few do but what the many don’t do.  That really represents what we are all about, co-conspirators in a sea of silence.  Marines who view despicable acts committed by other marines remain silent; the officers, who are well aware of this behavior, condone it, invariably following the “ethical criminal” attitude in war morality of “when in war, shit happens”; and the nation prefers to play the part of Pontius Pilates. 

Hillary Clinton, most everyone in our government, and those hypocrites at the Pentagon should not be acting surprised at the outrageous and contemptuous behavior of those four marines from Camp Lejeune desecrating the Taliban’s corpses.  The four have received no different training, or possess different brainwashed mindsets, from the other 200,000+ marines now on active duty, or the 1,600,000+ empire-warriors comprising our international police force.

No, the Marine Corps does not teach its men to do such detestable and gravely  outrageous things, none of the military services do; but neither do they teach them not to do them, or demand that honorable conduct be peer-enforced.  Therein lays the problem, honorable conduct taking a back seat to fellowship and camaraderie among fellow servicemen, particularly marines.  And not just honorable conduct but humane, moral conduct as well!

And no, these are not only isolated cases that occur; only isolated in how they come to be public knowledge, their frequency just a minuscule fraction of the instances in which they happen.  Ask any member of the military.  I have, and ‘been there myself.  If the academies do not demand, and unequivocally enforce, that honorable conduct be peer-enforced, how can such be expected to take place in the enlisted ranks? 

Human rights and dignity have never been part of the military code of ethics, not in the officer nor in the enlisted ranks.  In fact, ethics most often stands in the way of all military missions no matter how we try to rationalize soldiers’ behavior, embellish it, or try to find glory where there is none.   American citizenry, no different from that in other countries, has been content to have its military stick to vague or irrelevant terminology such as that used at the Military Academy at West Point: “Duty, Honor and Country.”

West Point’s Cadet Honor Code, similar to that of the other military academies, states that “A cadet will not lie, cheat, or steal…” but it took until 1970 to have a most important clause added, as military criminal behavior in Vietnam was becoming better known through inductees returning home, or tolerate those who do. And, as it became evident with the cheating scandal at Annapolis just two decades ago, misguided loyalty to their peers persists, appearing to take precedence over any established code of conduct.  And that, no matter how often it is denied, is an irrefutable fact.

In any event, it is less about honor and more about morality, two things that all too often we tend to use interchangeably.  Our own “Sage of Baltimore”, H. L. Mencken, proved to be right on target when he stated that “the difference between a moral man and a man of honor is that the latter regrets a discreditable act, even when it has worked and he has not been caught” [Chrestomathy 617].

A well-known four-star general (US Army, retired) and television military analyst, Barry McCaffrey, when commenting on this recent marine incident eluded to the fact that soldiers under similar circumstances [assumed to be in combat or post-combat] can walk a fine line between acting normal and becoming animals.  I am sure he meant irrational, for most animals have set behaviors, and seldom develop deviant ones.

That brings me to man and his best friend in the animal kingdom: the dog. For whatever reasons, invalid and repulsive to many of us, man (or at least some men) has decided to breed and train dogs with some undesirable characteristics, such as combative ferocity and instinct to kill.  Americans have done a masterful job in this regard with the Pit Bull Terrier.  And now, we as a nation are doing the same thing with the young men we are sending to fight our illegitimate wars – not to cast legitimacy to any war.  Our grunts and junior officers have become the pit bulls fighting the wars, the military brass and the nation as a whole becoming their handlers, directly responsible for their amoral acts.

No one in the world is going to buy into our defensive hypocrisy of this incident, Madame Clinton.  If we don’t want “shit to happen,” let’s just stop having these wars.  Better yet, let’s tell the world our hypocrisy is coming to an end by renaming our Department of Defense for what it really is, our Department of War.

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non_anon's picture

time to put these handlers out of business

Gully Foyle's picture

Demonize, Dehumanize, Destroy.

Warfare from day one.,13319,125220,00.html

More recruits with criminal records, including felony convictions, are being allowed to join the U.S. Army and Marine Corps, as the armed services cope with a dwindling pool of volunteers during wartime.

The military routinely grants waivers to take in recruits who have criminal records, medical problems or low aptitude scores that would otherwise disqualify them from service. Most are moral waivers, which include some felonies, misdemeanors, and traffic and drug offenses.

Defense Department statistics show that the number of Army and Marine recruits needing waivers for felonies and serious misdemeanors, including minor drug offenses, has grown since 2003. Some recruits may get more than one waiver.

The Army granted more than double the number of waivers for felonies and misdemeanors in 2006 than in 2003.

The number of felony waivers granted by the Army grew from 411 in 2003 to 901 in 2006, according to the Pentagon, or about one in 10 of the moral waivers approved that year. Other misdemeanors - from petty theft or writing a bad check to some assaults - jumped from about 2,700 to more than 6,000 in 2006, representing more than three-quarters of moral waivers granted by the Army.

Army and Defense Department officials defended the waiver program as a way to admit young people who had made a mistake but overcome past behavior.

Lawmakers and other observers said they were concerned that the struggle to fill military ranks in this time of war had caused standards to fall.

"Our armed forces are under incredible strain, and the only way that they can fill their recruiting quotas is by lowering their standards," said Rep. Marty Meehan, a Massachusetts Democrat who has been working to get additional data from the Pentagon. "By lowering standards, we are endangering the rest of our armed forces and sending the wrong message to potential recruits across the country."

The U.S. military is facing a "significant criminal threat" from gangs, including prison and biker gangs, whose members have found their way into the ranks, according to an FBI-led investigation.

Crassus's picture

Anything so they don't have to bring back the draft.

Gully Foyle's picture


The draft almost balanced out the ignorant with the intelligent, the unethical with moral, those who understood the Constitution and those who didn't.

I laugh at these asshole who think modern troops would not fire on US citizens.

They should realize that those same troops would not only shoot but piss on their dead bodies and not even blink.

Hober Mallow's picture

The Roman empire collapsed due to too much debt, an entitlement society and a weakened army. Lets not allow that to happen again.

cossack55's picture

Ooops!  Too fuckin' late!!! Better luck next time.  Thanks for playing, tho.

redpill's picture


The conduct of those four Marines is not acceptable, and is not representative of the Corps overall.


The United States' foreign policy of empire is not acceptable, and is not representative of the ideals of freedom and liberty that we supposedly cherish.


I have no doubt the actions of the four Marines will be punished and rectified what degree they can be.  It's droplets in an ocean compared to the second issue.


cfosnock's picture

"The conduct of those four Marines is not acceptable, and is not representative of the Corps overall" That may be true but they are not the first....'s picture

The My Lai Massacre (Vietnamese: th?m sát M? Lai [t????m ????t m?? l??j], [m??l??j] ( listen); English pronunciation: /?mi??la?/, also /?mi??le?, ?ma??la?/)[1] was the Vietnam War mass murder of between 347 and 504 unarmed civilians in South Vietnam on March 16, 1968, by United States Army soldiers of "Charlie" Company of 1st Battalion, 20th Infantry Regiment, 11th Brigade of the Americal Division. Most of the victims were women, children (including babies), and elderly people. Many were raped, beaten, and tortured, and some of the bodies were later found to be mutilated.[2] While 26 US soldiers were initially charged with criminal offenses for their actions at M? Lai, only Second Lieutenant William Calley, a platoon leader in Charlie Company, was convicted. Found guilty of killing 22 villagers, he was originally given a life sentence, but only served three and a half years under house arrest.


Hugh Clowers Thompson, Jr., DFC, BSM, PH, AM (April 15, 1943 – January 6, 2006) was a United States Army helicopter pilot during the Vietnam War. He is most well known for his role in stopping the My Lai Massacre, in which a group of US Army soldiers tortured and killed several hundred unarmed Vietnamese civilians, mutilating their bodies after they had been murdered.


Thompson: What's going on here, Lieutenant?
Calley: This is my business.
Thompson: What is this? Who are these people?
Calley: Just following orders.
Thompson: Orders? Whose orders?
Calley: Just following...
Thompson: But, these are human beings, unarmed civilians, sir.
Calley: Look Thompson, this is my show. I'm in charge here. It ain't your concern.
Thompson: Yeah, great job.
Calley: You better get back in that chopper and mind your own business.
Thompson: You ain't heard the last of this!

Thompson took off again, and Andreotta reported that Mitchell was now executing the people in the ditch. Furious, Thompson flew over the northeast corner of the village and spotted a group of about ten civilians, including children, running toward a homemade bomb shelter. Pursuing them were soldiers from the 2nd Platoon, C Company. Realizing that the soldiers intended to murder the Vietnamese, Thompson landed his aircraft between them and the villagers. Thompson turned to Colburn and Andreotta and told them that if the Americans began shooting at the villagers or him, they should fire their M60 machine guns at the Americans:[8] "Y'all cover me! If these bastards open up on me or these people, you open up on them. Promise me!",_Jr.

JOYFUL's picture

Crockett, thank you for that, and for cutting through the endless bullshit recycled here on this thread....US troops are good, US troops be bad...yabba yabba. 

As your story simply points out, American soldiers encapsulate both the BEST and the WORST of what military service can produce. 

If only the distinction, [and the heavy preponderance of the latter over the former in the present day] could be addressed at the command level, and a return to traditions of honor be instituted at the behest of a re-invigorated and constitution-loyalist cadre of serving officers.

If only.  Unfortunately, it is too late in the day for that.  Over a span of some 50+ years, the United States military has been purposely corrupted and degraded, it's officer corp turned into pathetic careerist imitators of the worst of the most depraved DC politicians and judicial perverts (Scroooge[not google]Kay Griggs) and a quite literally satanist[Scroogle(etc etc) mike acquino-presidio]coterie of evil henchmen of the ZOG power has turned what was once the most powerful fighting force into the world into little more than a dumbed-down version of the post-Republic non-citizen Roman mercenary hordes- looting and pillaging on behalf of an empire of filth in terminal decline.

Any real loyalist commanders of the former American military would court-martial and execute these pissant dupes forthwith as an example to their peers - conduct yourselves in accordance with the best interests of the citizens whom we serve, or pay the ultimate price for betraying them.

At this late point in the day, it is not enough that the example of Hugh Thompson Jr. be made the yardstick of conduct for every American soldier who swears to uphold the interests of their country...each and every American citizen must needs recognize that their very own survival necessitates the choice to put oneself in between the innocent and the evildoers...nothing less will keep the heavy tide of karma from sweeping uponst their existence like a tsunami of terror such as the world has never seen since Genghis Khan.

cfosnock's picture missed the point. It is not the BEST and the WORST of what military service can produce. Its war that brings out the very best and worst in people. You state that "Over a span of some 50+ years, the United States military has been purposely corrupted and degraded, it's officer corp turned into pathetic careerist imitators of the worst of the most depraved DC politicians and judicial perverts" No the officer corps have always been that way, just look it up. The Civil War had so many political appointees the north nearly lost, and if we go back to the Revolutionary War we see such things like General Horatio Gates taking full credit for Benedict Arnold's victory, and congress punishing Arnold and rewarding Gates (who subsequently lost the battle of Camden), then you have the whole infighting with George Washington, and Charles Lee.

Socratic Dog's picture

Keep posting that Crockett.  It's important.  As a society we don't like hearing the truth much.  So keep rubbing it in our faces.

As another commentator said, I am astonished at how many people on this site seem to think that American soldiers could never fire on American civilians, and that the military is our best guarantee against tyranny.  Wake up!!

Hephasteus's picture

You forgot congress men and women calling him a traitor and just generally annoying the fuck out of him and trying to scare him with their psychosis by leaving dead animals on his door step.

bushwarcrime's picture

I'd say pissing on enemy corpses is about as good as it gets when it comes to war, can you imagine the unreported stuff?  Ever see the videos on youboob of troops throwing flash bangs at Iraqi /civilians goat herders for the hell of it?

sun tzu's picture

I can't believe we're still pissing and moaning over a few marines pissing on dead bodies. We should be demanding a complete pullout. I'm sure those dead guys didn't mind being pissed on. I didn't hear them complaining

Rusty_Shackleford's picture

My thoughts exactly. Everyone's all worked about the pissing incident but nobody stops and asks if the actual KILLING of the men was appropriate or not.

monoloco's picture

We put young impressionable soldiers into a place where there is so much disrespect for human life that people blow up car bombs in market places filled with women and children and then we are shocked when they show disrespect to the forces trying to kill them on a daily basis. The answer is to save them for defending our country and not send them to these third world shitholes on some nebulous mission in the first place. What we need is a constitutional amendment requiring that wars be paid for with current tax revenues and not borrowed money, which would seriously diminish the public's appetite for this kind of foolishness. The chickenhawks would disappear overnight.

XenoFrog's picture

Don't forget an army filled with people who weren't Roman and held no loyalty to the Empire beyond the coin.

GeoffreyT's picture

There's nothing wrong with employing mercenaries per se - but when you do, it's best not to debase the currency.


The majority of the Praetorians were always Romans. They received the sesquiplex stipendum and donativum (and the Frumentarii - the Gestapo/SecretService - were even higher-paid).


The problem came not through the rebellion or military failures of mercenaries; the problem came through the stupidity of senior commanders who spoke EXACTLY like modern US commanders.

The best examples - Varus and Crassus: the first (an ibred fuckwit of the George W variety) lost 3 entire élite legions at the Teutoberger Wald (yes, Arminius probably DID pass intel to the Germans).


The other (Crassus) became amongst the richest men in the Empire by being the Lloyd Blankfein of the Roman FIRE sector. He lost 40,000 men at Carrhae (modern day Harran in Turkey, near the Syrian border).



The thing that brings down empires is the gap between the rhetoric of the political-parasite class and the operational effectiveness of its military goons. For the US, that gap has never been wider.


The 'clades Variana' was 60 years after Carrhae; at Carrhae the Roman military's vulnerability to tactial and strategic innovation (e.g., Surena's use of relatively light mounted archers in place of heavy cavalry, and the intermittent use of cataphracts to disrupt the testudo, which was an inherently DEFENSIVE formation).


In short, the Roman military were designed to fight a very specific type of set-piece warfare - and when they found themselves in places they had invadedthat presented difficult terrain AND resupply problems AND a committed enemy using innovative tactics (what we would recognise as 'insurgent' or 'irregular' warfare), they got butthurt.


Think "English troops in the Maori Wars'. Think "English troops in the US War of Independence" (once Washington stopped doing everything in his power to lose - that guy was a military GOOSE).


Think "US troops in VietNam". Think "US troops in IRaq". Think "US Troops in Afghanistan".


Think "LtGen Van Riper's Red Team in USJDF Exercise Millennium Challenge 2002".

Think (forward-looking)... "US carrier battle group facing Yakhonts SS-NX-26 missile barrage in the Straits of Hormuz" (something I first wrote about in 2004 - some of my best work).

Oh regional Indian's picture

Current Military can be described in one word...


And what we are witnessing is the death of empathy, as a society, people and humanity in general.  Abu Gharib, Libya in General, AfPak, back in the day with Vietnam, Agent Orange, Napalm....

It's empathy and even here, it looks like it's fast disappearing. 



cfosnock's picture

The battles you describe happened in 53 BC, and 9 AD, the empire fell in the 4th century (400 AD). They little to do with the fall of the empire

sun tzu's picture

Do you really think GW had anything to do with military strategy? Commander in Chief is merely a title. The Pentagon runs things on the battlefield


You obviously never heard of the map room in the white house where Johnson and Mcnamara met daily.  They stuck pins into a map of Vietnam and decided what targets they wanted to hit. The US military subverts itself to the civilian authority.  Its when you have a weak president or a micro manager that we get into trouble.

Gavrikon's picture

Bingo!  We have a winner!

Kayman's picture

The Romans considered marking all the slaves in Rome. Until they realized the ratio of slaves to Romans ought not be advertized.

el Gallinazo's picture

Did they use RF chips i their arms?

TBT or not TBT's picture

Rapidly falling birthrate made the debts and entitlements unsupportable. Their birth control method? Infanticide. Willful exposure to the elements, etc.

Bolweevil's picture

Does aborting north of 1M a year count or do you have to let 'em out first?

TBT or not TBT's picture

Ask the chinese, they still do it both ways, to the XX chromosome variety of tiny helpless human.

Tuco Benedicto Pacifico Juan Maria Ramirez's picture

Our birth control; abortion, fluoride in the water, GMO crops, Chemtrailing the skies, radiation.

TBT or not TBT's picture

Delaying having sex into their 30's would have given a good measure of the same poor fecundity result with ancient romans or ancient greeks as we get today from not even starting to try to have kids until well into our 30's. Fertility, unassisted anyway, drops precipitously with age, in particularly in female humans, everywhere, now and throughout history.

The hygiene the ancients had, the poor food, the poisons they weren't aware of in their implements and technologies they regularly used such as they were, were undoubtedly harder on their health than trace amounts of flourine, radiation levels below the natural background, GMO'd molecules that get broken down down before they pass the intestine wall, or.."chemtrails."

Cathartes Aura's picture


so which corporation do you represent?  Dow, Monsanto, Raytheon, G.E. - am I getting warm?

Buckaroo Banzai's picture

You are making a lot of questionable assertions. I'm quite confident that the quality of food the Romans enjoyed was significantly better than 99% of the garbage you find in a modern supermarket. "Organic" food was unknown in ancient times, mainly because ALL food was organic.

Romans had an elaborate system of public baths so its hard to believe their personal hygiene was anything less than impeccable. Your typical modern frenchman has significantly poorer hygiene, as anyone who has ridden the Paris Metro on a hot summer day can attest.

As for "poisons they weren't aware of," well that's pretty doubtful. There is a debate that lead poisoning contributed to the Roman downfall, but the evidence is sketchy.

ISEEIT's picture

Love ya hon, but your statist propaganda bullshit campaign has a short timeline here. E.J. is already identified.

Try again. And please be more creative?

It won't work.


clymer's picture

These honorable young men may have actually been trying to revive these mortally wounded opponents with urine. Most people are unaware of the medical uses of urine! It's true, urine is actually the main component in amniotic fluid that bathes human fetuses and ultimately provides them with life force. Now what better urine to try to revive a soul whose unfortunate lack of Americanism just hasn't been able to surface just yet? The URINE of a GOD DAMN, JESUS-FEARIN' U.S. MARINE, that's what! You.. you freedom hating, Toby Keith probably not-likin', anti-servile folk just can't recognize a humanitarian act of resuscitationism when you see it.


Love jesus. Or he'll fucking kill you.

Freddie's picture

Toby Keith is a retard piece of shit who loves the Democrat's Muslim.

The politicians should not engage in chickenshit wars.    Oddly we have been involved in fewer wars with Reagan than any other President since Ike.   Clinton was involved in that BS balkans war where he and the UN wiped out the Serbs to keep the islamic heroin drug running going full tilt.

Cathartes Aura's picture

. . . but raygun was busy with pissing on the public. . . trickle-down 'n' all.

Oh regional Indian's picture

Dribbley, ugly visual CA, but SO TRUE.

Trickle and shake down economy eh? Literally and figuratively. And all the time Nancy was busy with Ole Blue eyes or whatever the singing mobster was called..


sun tzu's picture

Now 0bozo is shitting on the public. My how things have changed

americanspirit's picture

Clymer - I see a lot of rather pathetic attempts at satire here on ZH but your post elevates us all. Superb! First Rate! A +10 if there ever was one.

Dugald's picture

Pissing on your opponent is as old as history.......just saying...'s picture

Winning hearts and minds by pissing on the murdered sons of those whom you claim to defend is as old as hypocrisy.

ebear's picture

Three strikes, you're in!


Gringo Viejo's picture

With due respect to ALL posters, if you've never been an infantryman in a combat zone, you've no idea of the darkness which lay dormant in the heart of man. I put my experience to words 20 years after the fact.

"The rotors moan above my head, as if in mourning for these dead, we "hump" inside the chopper's womb, which lofts them to their distant tomb. Our stage this hellish heat of day, the five of us dance death's ballet, with zippered bags of black and red, we haven't time to mourn our dead. Hurried, at a fevered pace, we seek to win this devil's race, if only for our task to end, God grant our souls some time to mend. Finished now, the bird lifts off, we sit and gasp, we smoke and cough, we suck foul water from canteens, each man alone within his dreams. Blood and sweat and dust congeal, upon my hands and face I feel a numbness, I avert my eyes, lest someone see I TOO HAVE DIED, and loft me to a distant tomb, so far God, from my mother's womb".

11b40's picture

I hear you, brother, and share your tears. Welcome home.

Oh regional Indian's picture

Wow words and sentiment.