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Guest Post: Americans Are Being Prepared For Full Spectrum Tyranny

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Submitted by Brandon Smith from Alt-Market

Americans Are Being Prepared For Full Spectrum Tyranny

Totalitarian governments, like persistent forms of cancer, have latched onto the long history of man, falling and then reemerging from the deep recesses of our cultural biology to wreak havoc upon one unlucky generation to the next.  The assumption by most is that these unfortunate empires are the product of bureaucracies gone awry; overtaken by the chaotic maddening hunger for wealth and power, and usually manipulated by the singular ambitions of a mesmerizing dictator.  For those of us in the Liberty Movement who are actually educated on the less acknowledged details of history, oligarchy and globalized centralism is much less random than this, and a far more deliberate and devious process than the general unaware public is willing consider.  

Unfortunately, the final truth is very complex, even for us… 

One cannot place the blame of despotism entirely on the shoulders of globalists.  Sadly, the crimes of elites are only possible with a certain amount of complicity from subsections of the populace.  Without our penchant for apathy and fear, there can be no control.  That is to say, there is no power over us but that which we give away.  We pave the road to our own catastrophes.

In the end, a tyrant’s primary job is not to crush the masses and rule out of malevolence, but to obtain the voluntary consent of the citizenry, usually through trickery and deceit.  Without the permission of the people, subconscious or otherwise, no tyranny can survive.

As with the oppressive regimes of the past, America has undergone a dramatic transformation, heavy with fear and ignorance.  Our tradition of elections has been corrupted and negated by the false left/right paradigm, and the leaderships of both defunct parties now seek only to elevate a select minority of men bent on globalization.  Our Constitutional liberties have been dismantled by legal chicanery.  Our principles have been diluted by intellectual games of rationalism and moral relativism.  Our country is ripe for conquest. 

Americans battle over whose side is most to blame; Democrat or Republican, while ironically being disenchanted with both entities.  For some people, the thought of holding each party equally accountable, or accepting that they are essentially the same animal, never crosses their minds. 

While this irrelevant farce of a debate rages on, the true culprits plotting the demise of our Republic gain momentum, and implement policy initiatives that the public should and must take note of.  In the past year alone, many blatant steps towards the Orwellian gulag have been openly administered.  A carnival of peddlers and freaks and greasy popcorn overwhelms our senses, but the stench of this cheap circus still tickles our noses, and if we use our eyes for even a moment, certain dangerous trends reveal themselves.  Here are just a few recent events that bear a dire warning; the ultimate assault on freedom in this nation grows near…

Acclimation To Subservience

Every totalitarian state worth its salt has its own goon squad.  The Nazi’s had the “Brownshirts”, the Soviets had the “Militsiya” and the “Voluntary People’s Brigade”, the Communist Chinese have the “Chengguan”, etc.  In America, however, all tyrannical measures are given innocuous bureaucratic labels to mislead and distract the masses.  In this country, we have the Transportation Security Administration…

The TSA has become the most hated alphabet agency in the U.S. in perhaps the fastest time on record.  It has violated the personal rights of more people on a daily basis in my view than the IRS, DEA, and the ATF combined.  Clearly, this slobbering demon child of the Department of Homeland Security is being molded for something quite terrible and grand. 

When confronted by the public on the use of irradiating and intrusive naked body scanner technology, the agency responded by allowing their blue handed ghoul army with to molest our nether-regions.  When confronted by state and local governments on their absurd tactics, the TSA threatened economic blockades and airport shutdowns.  The organization then began expanding its jurisdiction to bus and train stations and even our highways when it introduced the VIPR program and implemented random roadside checkpoints in Tennessee last year.  But, this behavior is nothing compared to what is next on the horizon: a compromise…

Beware of government agencies bearing gifts.  The TSA along with the International Air Transport Association has announced a new methodology of “less intrusive” passenger screening measures, in order to address the concerns of the public over pat downs and irradiating naked body scanners.  This SOUNDS like a step in the right direction, and a proper response to the grievances of the citizenry.  Instead, it turns out to be a refined example of totalitarianism in motion, and a perfect lesson in how the masses can be duped into handing over their inherent freedoms.

Revamped security protocols call for biometric data collection, including fingerprint and retina scans, and a tunnel which combines multiple detection systems into one area (who knows how radioactive this will end up being):

http://travel.usatoday.com/flights/story/2012-06-19/Faster-better-airport-security-checkpoints-not-that-far-off/55693916/1

The mainstream article above makes this development sound like a win/win scenario for everyone, painting biometric data collection as a matter of convenience, but it also reveals the true design of the system; to illicit voluntary subservience:

“The key to speeding up checkpoints and making security less intrusive will be to identify and assess travelers according to the risks they pose to safety in the skies. The so-called riskiest or unknown passengers would face the toughest scrutiny, including questioning and more sensitive electronic screening. Those who voluntarily provide more information about themselves to the government would be rewarded with faster passage…”

They enforce destructive anti-personal rights policies then pretend to acquiesce by replacing them with a technocratic nightmare grid which requires the cataloging of our very genetic essence in order to function.  The only remaining injustice left would be to apply this grid to the rest of the country outside of the airports and train stations, which I assure you, they plan to do. 

Militarization

Last week, I covered the disturbing use of armored vehicles (APC’s or urban tanks) in open training regiments on the streets of St. Louis by the U.S Army, despite the fact that all of their exercises could have easily been accomplished on any number of military bases across the country.  The action is an obvious attempt to condition the American populace to the sight of military units operating in a policing capacity:

http://www.alt-market.com/articles/866-military-tanks-on-st-louis-streetsbut-why

I received multiple letters from current serving military who stated that in all their years in the armed forces they had never seen such a brash mishandling of public relations or an overstepping of bounds when it came to the restrictions of Posse Comitatus.  It was encouraging to hear from military men and women who did not agree with or condone this kind of psyop activity on the part of our government. 

Though the St. Louis event is not isolated, I believe it does represent an escalation.  

Remember the controversy over the Mayor of Toledo and his refusal to allow 200 Marines to conduct urban combat drills on the public streets of his city in 2008?  The media clamored to crucify this public official; one of the few who had any sense whatsoever in his head:

http://voices.yahoo.com/toledo-mayor-faces-backlash-ousting-marines-896105.html

Or the tactical exercises using helicopters and combat troops over LA and Chicago early this year?

http://www.lapdonline.org/newsroom/news_view/50045

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2012/04/17/city-black-hawk-helicopter-flights-were-just-a-training-exercise/

During each one of these events, city officials and local media attempted to inoculate the public with claims that they were “simply exercises”.  This argument misses the point entirely.  Whether or not these are “exercises” is not the issue.  The issue is that this training could be done ON BASE.  Using public streets and running drills within cities is absolutely unnecessary given the vast resources already available to the military, unless, of course, the goal is to BE SEEN by the public and to influence them to view the sight of armed troops around them as “normal”.

Add to this the fact that many of these military training exercises are being conducted in tandem with local police department, and you have a recipe for the utter militarization of our society, turning peace officers into combat soldiers, and combat soldiers into law enforcement mechanisms; a juxtaposition that will soon lead to unmitigated disaster.

Arms Race Against the People?

When a country is quietly preparing for war, the first signs are usually revealed by a disclosure of armaments.  If stockpiling is taking place without a warranted threat present from a legitimate enemy, there is a considerable likelihood of aggression on the part of that nation.  America has gone well beyond the psychological process of militarization and has begun the extensive arming of particular agencies whose primary purpose revolves around the domestic. 

The DHS, for instance, placed an order for over 450 million rounds of hollowpoint .40 cal ammunition in April of this year:

http://rt.com/usa/news/dhs-million-point-government-179/

And it placed an order for over 7000 new semi-automatic combat rifles chambered in .223 (5.56 by 45mm NATO) immediately after:

https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&id=d791b6aa0fd9d3d8833b2efa08300033&tab=core&tabmode=list&=

While local police through federal programs (like the 1033 Program) are being given millions of dollars in free military equipment, including body armor, night vision equipment, APC's, aircraft, first aid supplies, weapons, surveillance equipment, Kevlar helmets, gas masks and filters, vehicles, etc.:

http://www.ogs.state.sc.us/surplus/SP-1033-index.phtm

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/06/cops-military-gear/all/

All of this equipment, though issued to state agencies, is still heavily tracked and regulated by the federal government, making it clear that these “gifts” come with strings attached:

http://www.newsherald.com/articles/program-103291-state-law.html

And finally, new FAA regulations will soon allow the dispersion of tens of thousands of predator drones with armament capability in the skies of the U.S. over the course of the next few years:

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/feb/7/coming-to-a-sky-near-you/

http://articles.latimes.com/2011/dec/10/nation/la-na-drone-arrest-20111211

Now, anyone with any logic would ask who it is that the government is arming itself and local police to fight against?  Al Qaeda?  Let’s not be naïve…

The passage of the NDAA and its provisions for the indefinite detainment of ANY person, even an American citizen, under the laws of war has ended the debate over government intent in terms of domestic action.  FBI Director Robert Mueller’s admission that he “did not know” if assassination programs would be used against American citizens also heaped evidence on the matter.  The bottom line?  Our government wishes to label and treat citizens as enemy combatants.  Of course they would then organize armaments to follow through on their policy.

Pulling The Trigger

All despotic systems have another distinct similarity; they each began with a series of trigger events which opened the door to tighter controls over the population.  The most immediate trigger event for the U.S. is the looming peril of a collapsing economy followed by inevitable civil unrest.  With the EU currently in debt shambles, global markets are on the verge of a considerable breakdown.  The Federal Reserve response will be predictable; QE3 and massive stimulus all around to mitigate the crisis.  This time, though, the go-to Keynesian quick fix will not work in the slightest.  In fact, it will make matters more untenable by placing the world reserve status of the dollar at risk.

Everything that has happened so far in the markets this year has been easy to foresee.  Alt-Market predicted the economic slowdown around the world and the collapse of overall demand using the Baltic Dry Index as a gauge back in January:

http://www.alt-market.com/articles/540-baltic-dry-index-signals-renewed-market-collapse

We also predicted the accelerated turmoil in the EU in light of the recent election results in France and Greece:

http://www.alt-market.com/articles/765-economic-alert-if-youre-not-worried-yetyou-should-be

If alternative economic analysts can predict these developments despite the manipulated statistics spewed out by the government every month, then I think the government and our central bank has a tremendously transparent view of what is coming down the road in terms of financial distress.  I believe the establishment is very well aware of a potential crisis event, economic or otherwise, that is barreling down upon the U.S.  I believe the evidence shows that they are preparing for this eventuality in a command and control fashion, without alerting the public to the coming implosion.  I believe they will use the despair that flows forth from the fiscal wreckage as an excuse to institute martial law. 

Call it "crazy".  Call it “conspiracy theory”.  Call it “coincidence”.  Call it "fear mongering".  Whatever you like.  I find it far more insane to shrug off the strange and twisted behavior of our power structure, and simply hope that it’s all irrelevant to the future.  Whenever I run into starry eyed historical romanticists who look back in astonishment at the tyrannies of the past and wonder out loud, “How could those people have not known where their country was headed?!!”, I think of where we are today…

 


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Thu, 06/28/2012 - 11:35 | Link to Comment Precious
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John Roberts: "LET THE CONFISCATION BEGIN".

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 11:51 | Link to Comment Crisismode
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This is just the beginning.

 

More. Much More.

 

Is. On. The. Way.

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 11:52 | Link to Comment Zionist Jew
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Something wicked this way comes.

New World Order out of Chaos.

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 11:58 | Link to Comment FEDbuster
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American Muslims Stone Christians in Dearborn, MI (Original edit)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnJBW49afzg

There's not much to say after watching this video, all that is left is action.  Will the three percent rise to the challenge?

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 12:10 | Link to Comment john39
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pretty blatent mind control effort, don't you think?  I mean really, is the "evil muslim" meme getting old for you yet?  haven't figured out that "terrorism" was the replacement for soviet threat?  should we kill every single brown person so we can move on to the next government approved threat?  please.

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 12:13 | Link to Comment slewie the pi-rat
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full-speculum tranny!

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 12:49 | Link to Comment Jonas Parker
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"America is at that awkward stage; it's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."       Claire Wolfe

 

we may be getting to that time...

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 15:27 | Link to Comment Freeskier
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"Bombs are for avalanches--not people." - Freeskier

http://freeskierpov.weebly.com/

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 22:34 | Link to Comment Western
Thu, 06/28/2012 - 12:30 | Link to Comment FEDbuster
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No, I am willing to stand up to an "Arab Spring" in America before it gets started.   Granted the Christians in the video were much like the Nazis in Skokie, IL, (there to provoke a reaction) but they do have a Constitutional right to free speech.  The police are supposed to protect this right, for all groups no matter how vile their speech (ie the Westboro Baptist Church).   The police knew that this group would be there, they knew it would create a "situation", yet they sided with the rock and bottle throwers to remove the Christians.

The "melting pot" has grown cold, and sub-groups are forming.  There will be battles, civil wars, gangland style violence, etc...   Ignore it at your own peril.

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 12:42 | Link to Comment Confused
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Now that the whole country has been programmed to fear "muslims," is it possible that this little event is to help divide those who would otherwise band together to stop any form of tyranny that threatens us all?

 

First they came for the.....and all that.

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 12:42 | Link to Comment john39
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its a friggin game.  wake up.  divide and conquer is the oldest play in the book.  expect race bait and and muslim baiting to increase going forward... all by design so you forget who really is fucking you.

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 13:16 | Link to Comment Zionist Jew
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And who would that be john? 

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 14:51 | Link to Comment Seer
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"And who would that be, john?"  [fixed]

I hope people get this (hint: put two and two together - avatar/name + comment).  Clever!

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 12:10 | Link to Comment Precious
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A word to the wise: "Stay beyond the leash of the dog."

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 13:25 | Link to Comment margaris
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And what if they use flexible leashes (or no leash at all) that do not restrict the dog to an action radius?

Then maybe this might help:

http://snallabolaget.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/frwlknife1.jpg

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 15:41 | Link to Comment enclaved134
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This whole thing is so transparent.

The Aliens have notified the world governments that they are taking over, and the populations need to be controlled for the announcement.

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 13:14 | Link to Comment Zionist Jew
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EXCELLENT video FEDbuster!

Christianity needs to realize the dire threat International Islam poses.  Don't forget 19 Arabs with boxcutters commanded by a man on dialysis from a cave made NORAD stand down, and knocked down 3 skyscrapers with 2 planes.

 

The only hope for Christianity is to send your children to the middle east to fight in multiple theaters for extended periods of time.  Remember we Jews are God's chosen people, Israel is your greatest ally, and her security is paramount.

 

Zionist Christians, your allegiance is appreciated ;-)

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 16:17 | Link to Comment stiler
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You're welcome and shalom (Isaiah 26:3). I pray for the peace of Jerusalem. Are you a believer in Yeshua Messiah?

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 19:32 | Link to Comment my puppy for prez
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Who owns and controls the entire world....international Islam, or international Zionism?

I know the answer.  Do you?

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 22:23 | Link to Comment Zionist Jew
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What is, international Zionism and the banking cartel for $400 Alex.

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 14:12 | Link to Comment janchup
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The "Christians" in the video are a bunch of meatheads doing their best to be obnoxious and provocative. They were "attacked" because they were assholes.

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 15:37 | Link to Comment FEDbuster
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Even "assholes" have speech rights protected by the First Ammendment.  The city of Dearborn will now lose another freedom of speech lawsuit like the one they lost last year.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-01YlwE6ywUQ/TbrAIw3fd_I/AAAAAAAAIEs/Ic8ENjtufj...

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 16:25 | Link to Comment stiler
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 They were "attacked" because they were assholes.

No, they were assholes because they were attacked. What would you have done, gone home? They have rights. Moslems only recognize the rights of Allah; to kill, maim etc etc in his name. I think they were there to preach. But I would agree that they probably should have just found another place to preach, because it isn't a good example to harm others in the name of Jesus. Better to be harmed. I think if not for the police there they would have killed a few of the Christians.

Fri, 06/29/2012 - 11:39 | Link to Comment NorthenSoul
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Reminds me of the pre-Baltic War of the !990's when Serbian propaganda stated that Serbian babies had been murdered and thrown in a river for all to see. 'T'was a freaking hoax, but some were ready to SWEAR they had witnessed the event.

And you thought we'd be that stupid falling for your bullshit?

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 16:01 | Link to Comment Reptil
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Fascism in Amsterdam!
http://www.at5.nl/artikelen/83279/stad-overweegt-naaktscans-op-straat

"City considers using "naked scans" in the street.

Mayor of Amsterdam Van der Laan considers to put "naked scans" in the street.

The police is investigating the possibillity to put these mobile bodyscans into effect. The "scanning poles" that can "see" through clothing, should be a welcome addition to "preventive searches".
"Scanning Poles" are detection gates in which through röntgen radiation can be detected if a person is carrying a weapon. The investigation (research) of the police into the possibillities of the use of such "Scanning Poles" in Amsterdam is in progress at this moment" the mayor writes to the city council.
Not everyone is happy with the idea. For example the political party D66. "Preventive searching is already a heavy measure: You're being stopped, selected, and seached from top to bottom. A mobile bodyscanner that can look through clothing using radiation is really a few steps too far. The police doesn't have to know everything of the Amsterdam citizen" says Jan Patermotte, head of the branch of the political party."

Apart from the blatant violation of the principle of the law (a person is innocent until proven guilty), there's the huge elephant in the room. Be it the bodyscanners the TSA uses or these Röntgen radiation emitting scanners (perhaps they're the same) they are CANCER CAUSING.

NO ONE should be submitted to this Tetrahertz or Röntgen emitters since they BOTH damage DNA. http://georgewashington2.blogspot.nl/2011/04/cumulative-low-level-doses-...

WAKE UP, the totalitarian state is encroaching upon us.

Time to fight some fascists. :-(

 

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 12:32 | Link to Comment JimBowie1958
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Maybe more is coming, but then again, maybe not. Freedom in practical terms is not about how much freedom you have in some abstract legal sense, but in what practical terms the government directly inserts itself into your personal life day to day.

Because a law that is never enforced is not a law in practical terms. Look at the immigration issue. If Obama does not enforce the law, then the law is nullified. For quite some time the government has had the power to confiscate all yor property without trial under Asset Forfeiture laws, and the IRS could audit almost anyone anytime and find violations and give a huge fine. But how often does this happen? Rarely and is still a newsworthy story when the law is clearly abused.

I agree that losing a legal protection is a bad thing, but that is not the worst of it; the worst of it is when the government actually enforces the bad laws.

Most people do not get upset by legal changes, but do get upset when those legal changes start to affect their daily lives. In VA they passed some draconian traffic fine laws, and the public issued not a peep of complaint until the state actually started implementing that law, then it was the Apocolypse! lol

So dont get outraged now, now is not the time. Now is the time to prepare your resources, make friends with people of a similar mind, be optimiistic about life and observe what the government can and cannot do and how to evade those things. Wait for hubris and power mongering drive the wannabe dictators into rash action and over play their hands, and then see what happens. The American people will not live under tyrrany in terms of real practical ACTION from the government.

When/if the time comes that the government does start throwing people in jail for not having health insurance, for expressing verbotten thoughts, for doing any of the millions of things already illegal, then you have recourse. Raising a rucuss and making pointless threats now only makes you look like a hothead and gets the attention of the PTB, and this is not the time for that.

Till that day comes, try to be more positive about your life and pleasant to be around. Remember, the left is where it is now and 80 years ago in this country they had a much worse position than their opposition has today. And yet they were patient, positive and look where they are now. Why cant we be as patient and positive? Why cant we be as cunning and prescient?

Cheer up, the bastards havent killed our Republic yet.

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 12:32 | Link to Comment LowProfile
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Thanks, I needed that.

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 13:58 | Link to Comment margaris
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thank you, you are absolutely right.

We have come far. A good life full of freedom and prosperity is all we can wish for, and we have to continue to strive for those things.

Always believe in hope and change.

They tried to ruin those wonderful words HOPE and CHANGE with the puppet obama in the exact same way george orwell describes in 1984 (newspeak). By destroying and taking away the meaning of words, they try to manipulate us in our thought process. Language is incredibly important for freedom and dissent, and those are the highest forms of patriotism.

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 14:06 | Link to Comment Bicycle Repairman
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The republic has been dead for a while now.

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 14:47 | Link to Comment Clashfan
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JB, and then there is this example, of $1K and some college students hijacking a drone. Interesting, eh?

http://rt.com/usa/news/texas-1000-us-government-906/

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 14:55 | Link to Comment rambo1028
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*SOME of the American people will not live under tyranny ...

There fixed if for ya. We are the minority buddy.

I think this will separate the men from the boys...you are either pro-tyranny or you are an enemy of the state. There will be no middle ground.

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 15:15 | Link to Comment JimBowie1958
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Agree with a lot oof that, but Rambo, lol, you need to reign yourself in till the time is right. Dont let your emotions control you.

Use the time you have to note who you know is a likely friend in this regard and who is not. It will be useful later.

History is full of dead warriors who charged before the trumpets sounded.

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 15:46 | Link to Comment FEDbuster
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Wait and see what happens?  Did that work for the Jews in Hitler's Germany?  Intellectuals in Mao's China?  Dissenters in Stalin's Russia?

What is a Three Percenter?

"During the American Revolution, the active forces in the field against the King's tyranny never amounted to more than 3% of the colonists. They were in turn actively supported by perhaps 10% of the population. In addition to these revolutionaries were perhaps another 20% who favored their cause but did little or nothing to support it. Another one-third of the population sided with the King (by the end of the war there were actually more Americans fighting FOR the King than there were in the field against him) and the final third took no side, blew with the wind and took what came.

Three Percenters today do not claim that we represent 3% of the American people, although we might. That theory has not yet been tested. We DO claim that we represent at least 3% of American gun owners, which is still a healthy number somewhere in the neighborhood of 3 million people. History, for good or ill, is made by determined minorities. We are one such minority. So too are the current enemies of the Founders' Republic. What remains, then, is the test of will and skill to determine who shall shape the future of our nation.

The Three Percent today are gun owners who will not disarm, will not compromise and will no longer back up at the passage of the next gun control act. Three Percenters say quite explicitly that we will not obey any further circumscription of our traditional liberties and will defend ourselves if attacked. We intend to maintain our God-given natural rights to liberty and property, and that means most especially the right to keep and bear arms. Thus, we are committed to the restoration of the Founders' Republic, and are willing to fight, die and, if forced by any would-be oppressor, to kill in the defense of ourselves and the Constitution that we all took an oath to uphold against enemies foreign and domestic."

 

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 16:30 | Link to Comment JimBowie1958
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You have your numbers on the Tories and Revolutionaries backwards as only between 15% and 20% were Tories and most of the rest of the poulation supported the revolt. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loyalists_(American_Revolution)

And why? Because American leaders did not jump the gun and try to revolt in the earlier stages of British provocation and despotism. We did not revolt over the Stamp Act or the Tea Tax. We did not revolt when the King ordered Americans to quarter his troops. Our leaders were patient and took every available opportunity to AVOID revolution because they knew how unlikely victory was. What they did was out of desperation, principle and the love of a native liberty that was alien to those back in England.

You want to bang the war drums, go ahead, the FBI might thank you for your efforts later, if you arent just another FBI provocateur in the first place.

Oh, yeah, Stalin, Mao and the other dictators came about AFTER SUCCESSFUL REVOLUTIONS. With a revolution, you dont always get what you pay for even if you win.

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 20:36 | Link to Comment FEDbuster
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You are right, we should just sit around typing on the computer and see what happens.   NDAA, Obamacare, UN Small Arms Treaty, etc....  Maybe you will meet some like minded people to talk to in your cattle car on your way to the FEMA camp? 

Ron Paul has warned everyone of what is coming.  Maybe my Ron Paul Revolution bumper sticker will provoke a knock on my door by the jackboots, who knows anymore?

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 15:25 | Link to Comment Seer
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"Look at the immigration issue."

Um... that would be "Look at the illegal immigration issue."  PLEASE, people, get this STRAIGHT!  I've got a wife who immigrated LEGALLY, and I resent people helping perpetuate this, what should be clear to all, divide and conquer propaganda.

BTW - You can have your "republic."  Good luck hanging on to it, especially considering that it would ALWAYS evolve into EXACTLY what we now have: it's based on perpetual growth, and w/o dealing with This FUNDAMENTAL/ROOT issue you're only going to be belching about how various platitudes didn't hold/materialize because people weren't member of whatever "club."

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 12:10 | Link to Comment duo
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another couple of weeks of hot weather in the Midwest and food shortages may be a reality. 

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 13:21 | Link to Comment Ceteris paribus
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You are all getting worried about nothing ,we will be going to war with Russia and China way before we start a revolution, the only pepole in America who are okay about getting off the sofa are in the army, the rest of us , well this revolution should have started by now and I am as much to blame as you are . So who is up for an armed march on the white house to take our shit back.

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 15:42 | Link to Comment Seer
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"the only pepole in America who are okay about getting off the sofa are in the army,"

Well, I look outside and I don't see them around.  Must be me and my wife, and not folks from the army, doing all the work on our property...

"So who is up for an armed march on the white house to take our shit back."

A "march!"  I really love a parade! (yeah, that would get me away from doing all that hard work on my property, great idea!)

What is it that you're expecting to take back?  Fiat?  A mechanism to extract money from yourself? ("look! I push this button and it takes money out of This pocket and then it puts it in my other pocket! well, except a 'bit' of it doesn't make the transfer, but... well, pretty cool, huh? oh, and I get to make armies and such, armies that protect me from, well, myself?")

Yeah... You're likely right on the Russia and China part though.

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 12:27 | Link to Comment FreedomGuy
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Just call it a "tax" and you can do it. When we put you in a labor camp it will be a "labor tax". See how easy this is?!?!

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 11:37 | Link to Comment Robot Traders Mom
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Will the government still treat me after they have shot at me?

 

Is there a mandate for that?

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 11:45 | Link to Comment Seer
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Yes: GITMO

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 11:47 | Link to Comment El Viejo
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Good question that gets to the heart of govt:

How does a govt system deal with the Predators and the slovenly Irresponsible at the same time. And when the numbers of both increase as they seem to have done lately what extremes will govt go to???

 

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 12:21 | Link to Comment Mad Mad Woman
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They will be prepared to go all out against we, the people. It will get ugly. Real ugly.

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 13:17 | Link to Comment Bastiat
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After they multi-tap you with a few of those .40 hollow points, no treatment will be necessary--first responder will be pickup truck and a body bag.

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 15:46 | Link to Comment Seer
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It's always out of some Hollywood movie, isn't it?

How about the more mundane, the way that it usually occurs, something like starvation due to the food system being turned down?  I mean, why bother with all this messy stuff that requires you to clean up?  Starving people have to clean up after themselves because, well, because their poor, starving people and we don't fucking care about them, right?

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 11:53 | Link to Comment GeezerGeek
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They have to treat you: it would be a pre-existing condition.

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 12:12 | Link to Comment Treeplanter
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That will be decided by the Death Panels, but Obama favors painkillers over treatment.  How old are you and who did you vote for?  Your race and sexual orientation?

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 13:06 | Link to Comment flattrader
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We have Death Panels now moron.

 

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 15:51 | Link to Comment Seer
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TPTB have always decided how we will live and how we will die: we're only under the illusion that it's otherwise.  NOTHING has changed in this regard.  And nothing WILL change until we stop our belief that we have to have "leaders" (or gods, or masters, or some entity to "protect" our "property rights").

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 11:42 | Link to Comment bdc63
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American's are Being Prepared for Full Spectrum Tyranny

yep -- right down to the constant belittling and deriding of congress ... so when obama declares martial law in the name of "saving america" and sends all your representatives home, he will largely be applauded by his adoring sheeple.

 

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 11:45 | Link to Comment pods
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LOL.

"Our representatives?"

 

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 12:03 | Link to Comment bdc63
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i know, it's a revolting thought.  but you better learn to embrace them, 'cause they are all that stands between you and tyrrany at this point.  to participate in the 'belittling and deriding' of congress is to play right into obummer's plan.

 

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 12:16 | Link to Comment CH1
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Dude, Congress has been bought and sold. Hello?

There are 30-some lobbyists for each of the whores.

NO HOPE THERE.

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 12:35 | Link to Comment bdc63
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Obama would like to thank you for falling in line with his plan ... he thought the ZH crowd might be more difficult to fool than the average sheeple, but turns out it's not nearly as tough as he thought.

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 12:16 | Link to Comment pods
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Sorry, but I will pass.

I will add that Obamacare, NDAA, PATRIOT act, et all were passed by "our representatives."

The problem is that you think it is Obama's plan.  It isn't.

There is nothing standing between me and tyranny.  Tyranny just hasn't decided to kick in my teeth just yet.

pods

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 12:32 | Link to Comment Al Huxley
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Are you fucking kidding?  They're part and parcel of the tyranny.

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 12:12 | Link to Comment Not Too Important
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SCYTL. 'Nuff said.

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 12:19 | Link to Comment pods
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SCYTL?  The voting thing?

Vote fraud is not the problem.  That is a sideshow.
The problem is that the people we delegated with certain enumerated powers have usurped their authority and now do what they want.

Now they are merely state sanctioned thugs.  Nothing more, nothing less.

pods

 

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 12:41 | Link to Comment divide_by_zero
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Scytl goes hand in hand Soros' SOS program (Secretary of State) to pack those offices with Progressives as Stalin noted it only matters who counts the votes. In addition he has packed the Judiciary at many levels plus the MSM for a mere $50 million each.

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 12:01 | Link to Comment whstlblwr
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Unless it's alien attack

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 12:02 | Link to Comment HyperLazy
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Why send congress home? If Martial Law and absolute Tyranny is to be installed; congress would likely be exiled, incarcerated and or executed. What better way to send a message that the republic is dead?

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 12:10 | Link to Comment bdc63
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incrementalism ... gradualism ... the 'boiling a frog' theory ...

If out of the blue you jail congress and declare yourself king, you will have a revolution.

If you incrementally implement "changes" and convince the people that it's in their best interest (or if you're REALLY good, get them to beg for it), then you become king without a pesky civil war.

 

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 12:13 | Link to Comment HyperLazy
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LOL - yer right, we haven't hit Tiberius and Caligula standards yet...

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 12:21 | Link to Comment jimmytorpedo
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i don't know,..Lady Obumber is a bit horse faced,...

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 12:18 | Link to Comment CH1
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congress would likely be exiled

Are you kidding me? They'll fight for TV time to explain how it's necessary for our safety.

They will honestly expect you to thank them for it.

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 16:03 | Link to Comment Seer
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Good call.  They'll blame it on the POTUS, or on the SCOTUS, OR... on "terrorists."

People will be wearing the chains for as long as they enjoy them...

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 12:18 | Link to Comment Treeplanter
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But the NCOs in the military may choose to refuse unlawful orders, as is their right.  And then there are all those combat veterans who may back them if needed to arrest the dictator.  This is not Europe.

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 12:34 | Link to Comment CH1
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But the NCOs in the military may choose to refuse unlawful orders..

Yeah, maybe... but it's also a reason to believe that we'll never have to actually DO anything. "Just wait for someone else to save us."

Until people ACT, they remain sheep, no matter how they talk.

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 12:40 | Link to Comment bdc63
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"unlawful" orders?!  under martial law there won't be any "unlawful orders" ... the president will pass whatever he wants into law through executive order ...

 

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 12:29 | Link to Comment FreedomGuy
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Boulder, San Francisco and Greenwich Village will love him as long as there are gay soldiers present in the police force.

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 11:38 | Link to Comment mrktwtch2
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do you know grahm summers...lol

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 11:38 | Link to Comment midgetrannyporn
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a little piss in the bisque never hurt anyone

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 12:35 | Link to Comment oddjob
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Stay away from the cream of mushroom.

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 13:16 | Link to Comment spekulatn
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"I make a special won ton soup for you..."   ;)

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 13:47 | Link to Comment Zymurguy
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I'll have the cream of som-yung-chick please.

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 11:40 | Link to Comment LostAtSea
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When they turn the pages of history
When these days have passed long ago
Will they read of us with sadness
For the seeds that we let grow
We turned our gaze
From the castles in the distance
Eyes cast down
On the path of least resistance

Cities full of hatred
Fear and lies
Withered hearts
And cruel tormented eyes
Scheming demons
Dressed in kingly guise
Beating down the multitude
And scoffing at the wise
 

The hypocrites are slandering
The sacred halls of Truth
Ancient nobles showering
Their bitterness on youth
Can't we find
The minds that made us stong
Can't we learn
To feel what's right and wrong

Cities full of hatred
Fear and lies
Withered hearts
And cruel, tormented eyes
Scheming demons
Dressed in kingly guise
Beating down the multitude
And scoffing at the wise
Can't we raise our eyes
And make a start
Can't we find the minds
To lead us closer to the Heart

- Rush, "A Farewell to Kings"

 

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 11:43 | Link to Comment masterinchancery
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Applause!!!!

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 12:01 | Link to Comment Hubbs
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You reminded me. Time to go play on my drum kit, although never can approach the mind (as a song writer) and the technical ability of Neil Peart.

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 15:23 | Link to Comment LouisDega
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Neil Peart? I thought his name was God... or is it Professor? 

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 11:41 | Link to Comment Spastica Rex
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Fear as control - yes, but DESIRE as well.

Two sides of the same coin.

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 11:43 | Link to Comment masterinchancery
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It will take martial law to collect these "taxes", but even then they won't get most of them.  Maybe they can sell your children into slavery to pay them? A logical extension of the power to tax, as practiced by the Darth Vaders in DC.

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 11:43 | Link to Comment NotApplicable
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We've had a "tank" (LAV) now for several years, but the kids have yet to get to play with it.

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 11:57 | Link to Comment Cthonic
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An AT4 is to an LAV what the crossbow was to knight's armour.  Still cool you have one though.

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 11:45 | Link to Comment otto skorzeny
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if this was dressed up as nationalism I would feel better about it- instead its some kind of NWO with our streets overrun with brown skinners. Hitler appealed to a dying german middle class- at least he did it in some doomed vision of a "Greater Reich"- this has the feel of the elites picking over the carcass of the US like some carrion.

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 11:48 | Link to Comment Spastica Rex
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 If only we could find a new Hitler...

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 11:57 | Link to Comment otto skorzeny
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it's an analogy-I would settle for an Il Duce or Franco. at least with fascists you don't have to be deluded into thinking your vote "really matters"

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 12:00 | Link to Comment Spastica Rex
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Keep hope alive.

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 11:45 | Link to Comment Dr. Engali
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I see it coming...I wish I could convince my wife.

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 11:49 | Link to Comment pods
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Don't try Doc.  I convinced mine, and have regretted it ever since.  She is much more emotional than I am, and it really was tough for her to accept where we are.

Now I do not bother her with this kind of stuff.  

Just make sure that she knows where the BOB is and she gets into the car when the balloon goes up without hesitating.

pods

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 12:18 | Link to Comment DogSlime
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I convinced mine too - not by argument but just by showing more and more and more evidence.  She's a convert but not a happy one :( 

Direct quote from her a couple of weeks ago:  "I can't un-know what I know now.  I hate that.  I think I preferred ignorance."

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 12:27 | Link to Comment pods
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Wow, that sounds familiar.  Hope we ain't married to the same girl?

She saw what I went through when I would stay up most of the night searching for arcane quotes from early 20th century papers, etc.

She saw what it was doing to me.  How angry I was, how much I drank, etc.

After working through anger and critically thinking about what I can do, she started to wonder what shook me so much.  

I would tell her about certain things, and she watched some videos with me (Money masters) so I could show her what I had learned.

She really didn't take it that well.  Better than me, but not well.  

The whole thing reminds me of Cypher from The Matrix:

"Why oh why didn't I take the blue pill?"

We have learned that we can only do so much.  The rest will be left up to fate.

pods

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 12:55 | Link to Comment CloseToTheEdge
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He who is prudent and lies in wait for an enemy who is not, will be victorious. sun tzu

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 14:24 | Link to Comment Struan
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I, as well, know too much. I do feel an urge to speak up on different forums, I even get paranoid and use tor.

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 14:41 | Link to Comment ITrustMyGut
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same experience.. wife.. is learning..but hating me for it.. prefers.. not to know.. and sometimes.. I wish the same....

 

really have to mitigate my exposure to this stuff.. ZH, Rense, etc... causes fear and sadness... which holds no shelter today...

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 16:10 | Link to Comment Seer
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"causes fear and sadness"

You're responsible for YOUR emotions.  It's all about how you interpret the stimuli around you.

I view it as being beneficial in supporting my actions to break away from the certain death march that the status quo would bring.

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 19:18 | Link to Comment my puppy for prez
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Wow...this comment section has been so therapeutic for me!  I have felt very alone in the ostrich-spouse situation.  Just knowing others suffer the same problem and hearing great suggestions (especially you, Seer!) is therapeutic.  

Not only is there strength, but SOLACE, in numbers!

I am one of those people (like many ZH'ers) who actually feels comfort and empowerment in knowing the WHOLE TRUTH.  Not knowing and having that gut feeling that "something is wrong with this picture" is what keeps me up at night.  But there are many people, like my husband, whose minds/personalities are not wired that way.

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 14:17 | Link to Comment FEDbuster
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When I get the chance, I like to "plant the seed" in the minds of the sheeple.  Just a little talk of collapse, the worst is yet to come, etc....  They dismiss it with an "it will never happen here" response, but the seed is planted.

I sometimes wonder what Germans who were concerned with the rise of the Nazis and Hitler thought and talked about in the early days before WW2?  Having gone through Wiemar and WWI.

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 11:52 | Link to Comment Sweet Chicken
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Maybe you and I can go on a double date and convince our two knuckle heads?!?!

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 12:12 | Link to Comment Seer
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Best is to find someone who agrees with you and has a spouse who also does and is of the same sex as your recalcitrant spouse.

My ex left, couldn't accept it all: now, however, she gets it and has property (yeah, we still communicate; and, I'm glad that my "training" didn't go to waste).  My current wife just plain ROCKS!  She's going to be butchering ducks this weekend.  She splits wood (not all of it, we share most all work), makes soap, gardens, and much much more.  Oh, and she is exceedingly quick/smart and, oh yeah, beautiful!

Don't wait for the bottom to drop out to really test whether your spouse and you can work as a team.

Expect more by being more.

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 11:59 | Link to Comment porkdrippingsle...
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I've finally learned not to bring it up with the husband anymore.  He gets really pissed when I try to talk to him about the way this country is heading.  Now I just keep my mouth shut and keep stacking up on silver and life's essentials.  If he asks I just tell him there was a really good sale.

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 12:13 | Link to Comment i-dog
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'Atta girl!! If you want anything done around this place, you've gotta do it yourself!

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 12:14 | Link to Comment Uncle Remus
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Word.

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 12:21 | Link to Comment Seer
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Not talking is NOT good.  If he isn't talking now do you think he's going to talk when things get BAD?

The probabilities that our population sizes are going to be reduced (via extreme poverty [lack of resources] or via war) is HIGH.  It's going to be MUCH more competitive, and I'm thinking that a head-in-the-sand approach WON'T be a plus for survival.

Those who are in denial are most likely going to blame those who prepared for abandoning the old system, that it was the "doomers" who are responsible for thing being fucked up.

Persistent denial is a character trait.  And not a good one.  I highly doubt that one can expect this to change when the bottom drops out.

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 13:26 | Link to Comment Creepy Lurker
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Or, her husband could be like mine, smart and can see what's coming, but can't deal with conversing about it. To get around this behavior, you might be able to do a lot by couching things in different terms. For example; 'I'd like to move to the country for the peace and quiet. I want a big garden because I love gardening and the food is so fresh and tastes good. I bought some eggs from someone who has backyard chickens and they're the best I ever had. I'd like to do this too, plus we'll save money.'

Another one to try: 'Wouldn't you love to work remotely and not have to see those idiots in the office every day?' That one helped me a lot, just make sure to move somewhere broadband is available. Also helps if you have noisy obnoxious neighbors.

You get the idea. Paint a picture of saving money, living simpler, living with less stress. You'll have a better chance of getting at least some cooperation, and he'll thank you later.

Edited to add: If you can make him think its his idea, will work even better!

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 13:46 | Link to Comment Seer
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Different strategies for different people.

My wife is really inquisitive, she loves learning about things.  So, with her it's more of just doing, and not so much talking about "politics" (though we do talk about some things enough for her to understand the currents driving things).  And, really, DOING is what's really most important.  BUT, your success at DOING requires that you both are on the same page.

So... maybe not trying to convey based on painting a picture but, rather, by being IN the picture?  Go do things that might approximate where you'd like to be.  Go look, touch and smell things.  AND, don't assume that YOU can do these things if you aren't already doing them.  It's possible that your spouse doesn't think that YOU can do them and is only voicing/acting out their doubts about you.  My ex always doubted me, tended to believe the "experts:" yeah, and EVERY time I was proven right (she's still trying to unload an "extra" house that she inherited, after the "experts" told her that the markets would turn around- ha ha!); now she's realizing all of this (which I applaud).  Anyway, as one of the few valuable things I learned from the military- "Set the example."  If someone sees you actually doing something then that takes a lot of the doubting away.  And, you might find things that you just really can't do: I suck at butchering animals; I like raising them, but I'm not good at killing them (yeah, me being ex-military, black powder elk hunter; I look at our domestic critters and get anxious about killing them); fortunately my wife (being old-school Filipina [though not country]) can.  It's something that I know that I'll have to commit to being better at/about.  This is an example of the "team" making it work.

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 14:47 | Link to Comment Struan
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No, that`s not different strategy, that's emotional programming. Powerful stuff, check The Century of the Self. Check TV comercials, they all deal with emotion, check terizm=emotion, check the word "MUSLIM" , all americans freeze when they hear MUSLIM, powerful emotion.

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 16:26 | Link to Comment Seer
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Call it what you like, but one's mind HAS to shift lest it cannot adjust.

I don't treat the word "programming" as though it's ONLY something BAD.  Self-programming, assuming it's fully vetted, is perfectly fine.  Sometimes one has to block and or apply mental tricks in order to get around what would otherwise be something that one couldn't navigate*: there's a reason why such things as "depression" exists, it, for example, exists in order to force one to regroup (withdraw from too much stimulation); but, as always, too much of something, being STUCK, is NOT good.

* If anyone has quit smoking you know how hard That is.  I came up with tricks to assist me in self-programming to believe that I was a non-smoker: and, that was the end of that monkey.

And, if you're implying that it's bad for others to help program someone else, well, if one is doing the programming with the other one's TRUE well-being in mind then it isn't bad.  Consider that de-programming is, in essence, programming.  Or, you can leave your fellow soldier (spouse etc) behind because programming isn't something that you think is good...

Mass programming, not good.  One-on-one programming, can, if done for selfless reasons, [can be] good.

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 14:46 | Link to Comment porkdrippingsle...
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He's very intelligent and well aware of the direction of things these days.  He is the type who feels talking about it is a waste of time and energy.  He would much rather talk about the kids, the garden or what we will do once the kiddies are in bed for the night.  That is his favorite form of communication.

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 19:08 | Link to Comment my puppy for prez
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OMG...we are married to the same man!!!

How DARE you?

LOL

(Glad to know I'm not alone!  We need a site for women preppers whose husbands are like ours.)

My husband and oldest son think I am a FREAK for reading copious amounts of REAL history.  They want me to be June Cleaver, I guess, and go do what REAL women should do, like be the typical affluent shallow housewife who doesn't have a care in the world, except which negligee I should wear to bed.  Sigh... 

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 12:01 | Link to Comment centerline
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Mine thinks the creeping police state is okay because she has nothing hide and has done nothing wrong and would like to feel safer.

She is bonified sheeple.  And as such is a perfect subject from which to gage majority public opinion.

Just let me know if you ever wonder what the average (non-ZHer) person is thinking and I can find out pretty quick!  LOL.

 

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 12:14 | Link to Comment bdc63
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Just for fun, could you ask her which branch of the government the Federal Reserve falls under?

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 12:33 | Link to Comment centerline
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LOL.  I think that would just get the blank stare.  Same as if I asked which branch Federal Express belongs under.  

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 19:03 | Link to Comment my puppy for prez
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Is she a supermodel?

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 13:59 | Link to Comment The Alarmist
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Isn't the correct question, "Which branches of the National government operate under the control of the Federal Reserve?"

Fri, 06/29/2012 - 00:10 | Link to Comment FreedomGuy
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I am amazed at how many people have the same view. They will tolerate endless numbers of rules, regulations and government impositions. They are so perfect for budding totalitarians.

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 12:26 | Link to Comment DanDaley
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In a way I hope I'm still around when they declare martial law just to see the looks on the faces of the willful schmucks that aided and abetted these statist bastards.  Then like the doomed Russian sub in Red October about to be destroyed by its own torpedo, tell them: You ignorant ass, you've killed us!

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 14:14 | Link to Comment Seer
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Careful!  The reason why They don't believe you is because they are programmed not to.  And, those who are counter to the failing status quo will be the first ones fingered as being the culprits for the collapse.  Yes, those folks that you wish to point fingers at will be pointing guns (or narc-ing) on you!

Put yer heads down to the grindstone and prepare.  Don't look back.  You can't save everyone.

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 14:20 | Link to Comment rambo1028
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I doubt there will be time for "I told ya so!" More like..."This is a trigger. Pull it!"

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 19:07 | Link to Comment DanDaley
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Totally agree. The above is a fantasy.

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 12:41 | Link to Comment Mad Mad Woman
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My partner and I see it coming too. We've been talking to our friends about it and they just think we're a little crazy. Recently 2 of our friends are starting to come around. They have "heard" things and are thinking there is some truth to what we say now.

I live in Central PA, Harrisburg area (that's anothe story I'll save for later), and we live close to Ft. Indiantown Gap, which is an Army reserve training facility. The Gap is also home to a drone division, and the drones are of the camera only type.

My partner checks out that Fulford guy quite often, and he is saying that when the time comes, OUR soldiers will be donning the blue hats (helmets) of the UN. Which makes sense since the govt ordered those 7000 guns that are identical to UN issued guns. Now he and others are saying there will be an "event" most likely over the 4th of July holiday. What better timing when everyone is feeling all patriotic and all. Right?

Something is coming, I can feel it. It will be soon, so make sure you're ready. And be prepared for widespread power failures of undetermined length. Get an extra propane tank for tht grill.Make sure you have batteries and flashlights. Stock up on canned food. And make sure you have a manual can opener. Stock up on bottled water too. And plenty of toilet paper.

 

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 14:28 | Link to Comment Seer
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Don't view this as an issue of just surviving an "event."  While I believe that much of this is possible, the probability is totally out of anyone's control and the ONLY thing that I have SOME sense of control over is in trying to be as less dependent on things that are failing/will fail.

This is all about a MAJOR paradigm shift.  One can GUESS at all he nuances, but there's really ONLY one path that things will eventually follow, and that's one of being able to do more with less: being more sustainable.

I remember a very poignant statement in a book on off-shore sailing, about a racer who said that spending a bunch of energy on the lifeboat is a waste, that if something happens to the BIG boat do you really think that the LITTLE one will save you?  He wasn't advocating NOT having a lifeboat.  What he WAS advocating was to spend more of your energy on making sure that your primary dependency, the BIG boat, was/is better prepared.  To me, "stocking up" is like focusing on the LITTLE boat; focus on the BIG boat, the one that was/is MEANT to "get you there" (a [more] sustainable means).

Learn how to make.  Learn REAL skills.

Sun, 07/01/2012 - 12:14 | Link to Comment Winston of Oceania
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 "To me, "stocking up" is like focusing on the LITTLE boat"

 

Ever hear of the Titanic? Stocking up will help not only YOU but also your neighbor as you will be competing for LESS of the scant resources available.

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 14:44 | Link to Comment Chaos_Theory
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Only nitpick is that the 5.56 NATO round has been the U.S. standard round since Vietnam.  All the National Guard Armories, all the active duty military bases, ports and forts all have had thousands of rounds of 5.56 for over 45 years as part of their deployment reserves anyway.

However, that doesn't excuse why the f-ck DHS needed the 400,000+ .40 cal hollow-points or their own 5.56 rifles.  Also, haven't most PDs adopted the AR-15 (.223) over the last 15 years too?  Think of it this way....go to a gun show, and buy at least one AR-15, and spare parts (barrels, firing pins, upper receivers), and if unrest hits Mad Max proportions, then all you have to do to reload is grab the nearest magazine from a dead stormtrooper. 

I wish I could convince my wife of what is coming (hybrid of Orwell, Bladerunner, Lord of the Flies and Mad Max Bartertown).  She still questions why I need a $600 compound bow, $1000 HF transceiver and $300 portable antenna, a salt-water filtration system, months of survival food, multiple IFAKs, etc.  She definetly doesn't like my monthly precious metal purchases (.22LR, .223, 9mm, .40, .308 and 12-gauge shells).  All that stuff is "wasting money" but that $200 Cox bill is A-okay.  I only gave in on the pool because it would be a good 10,000 gallon cistern if need be. 

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 19:00 | Link to Comment my puppy for prez
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It seems that opposites DO attract, doesn't it?  I am the WIFE in the home, and it is I who am the prepper!  I feel like Joan of Arc some days.  My husband could care less.  He's off in his la-la land photography blogsites when he is not working hard.  Thank God he likes guns and we are set in that area.  I have definitely looked at my pool as a source of water.  

You know things are bad when the first thought about your pool is not, "Ahhh, that looks so inviting," but instead, "Whew...glad I have all that water for when the SHTF."

Sat, 06/30/2012 - 07:10 | Link to Comment Winston of Oceania
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Forge strong ties with your neighbors, none of us will make it on our own. Lead by example if the need arises. Be the guy who is always there for them now and they will follow you when you need them to.

pro re publica

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 11:46 | Link to Comment dwdollar
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Bring it. I'm tired of pussyfooting around with this soft-core slow death shit.

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 11:51 | Link to Comment Dr. Richard Head
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Shhhhh......I'm looking at the pictures of Miley Cyrus and her bra dress ensemble.  Growllllll.

 

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Thu, 06/28/2012 - 12:09 | Link to Comment Not Too Important
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Thanks, Dick.

:-)

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 11:50 | Link to Comment wonderatitall
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already have him in obama-kony-hitler...hey beggars ....pay it bitches

 

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 11:51 | Link to Comment Seer
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"there is no power over us but that which we give away.  We pave the road to our own catastrophes."

And then a lot of babbling about how we can give just a little power and things would be OK?

Listen, you cannot be just a little pregnant.  You have a little govt and you have a BIG govt.  You either accept power OVER you or you don't!

Can't have you cake and eat it too.  You cannot expect there to be an benevolent ENFORCEMENT power that can protect your property rights and NOT have the authority to KILL.  And when you give another entity the legal right to kill then you have given them the right to kill YOU.

"For those of us in the Liberty Movement who are actually educated on the less acknowledged details of history, oligarchy and globalized centralism is much less random than this, and a far more deliberate and devious process than the general unaware public is willing consider."

Another fucking "movement."  Another fucking group of people who THINK they know what the fuck they're talking about.

I recommend that all you "educated" folks actually look to COMPREHEND history, that you employ WISDOM rather than "knowledge."

All this whining about bad govts, like there can be good ones...  Silly rabbits!

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 12:31 | Link to Comment JimBowie1958
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There can be good government when it minds its own business and does its job right.

We elect the most important of our government officeers, so we can only blame ourselves for putting the morons, the corrupt and the bought into power.

And what 'we' need to do is break up the duoploy that is our two party system and get some real alternatives on the ballot.

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 12:40 | Link to Comment Seer
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"There can be good government when it minds its own business and does its job right."

In your head perhaps, in your head.  But in the REAL world government = centers of power, and power-mongers ALWAYS seek power.  Saying that people will check power is BS; look around you and tell me how that has worked (also point out anywhere in time that there's been a government (or other structured codifier and enforcer) that has displayed the attributes for any SIGNIFICANT amount of time (not transient).

Re-read what I wrote.  UNDERSTAND the very simple and universal statement that "power corrupts."

Yeah, I'd like things to be as you state, but then again unicorns would be cool too, and I'm not thinking that I'm going to hold my breath for unicorns to arrive.

Fri, 06/29/2012 - 00:22 | Link to Comment FreedomGuy
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You are one of the few that gets it. It's like arguing which monarchs were the best in old England or which Soviet leaders were the best and worst. You are either ruled or not. We are ruled. Let it sink in and then react. The Supreme court established for the 100th time that the government can do anything to you if they phrase it correctly. Our rulers may be elected but they are our rulers and the leadership of both major parties subscribe to this. They will not willfully change it.

The other thing you get so right is that we sell each other out. The government  tells us that those "other" guys are lieing cheating bastards and need rules, regs and punishment. We nod and give them the power. Meanwhile those other guys are told we are lieing cheating bastards and also need more rules and less freedom. They nod and vote for that. Giving the gov't power over our neighbor is giving them the same power over us. Then we act so damned suprise when that power is used against us...especially if that other guy contributes more to the right people.

Liberty takes reason and makes no grandiose promises. It is much harder to do and keep than statism which is simplistic, rides on emotion and promises utiopia with just minor surrendering of our liberty...again and again and again and again...soon the utopia will arrive...soon...any day now...with one more program...a little more spending... You get the picture.

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 11:52 | Link to Comment DeadFinks
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Every frog should own and use a thermometer.

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 11:54 | Link to Comment Dr. Richard Head
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Mine reads 211 fahrenheit....or is that 451?

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 12:05 | Link to Comment Hubbs
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Deal with absolute. 373 Kelvin.

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 11:52 | Link to Comment bskiles
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It's psychologically a lot easier for a drone pilot, hundreds of miles away to fire upon his own citizenry, than it would be for a soldier on the street to kill his citizens. 

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 11:55 | Link to Comment Dr. Richard Head
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Even easier when the Blue Hats (UN) do it with foreigners.  "They're taking our jobs!"

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 12:08 | Link to Comment Not Too Important
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'Outsourcing Martial Law'. Makes sense. No reason to pay our own troops to kill us when foreigners will do it cheaper.

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 12:48 | Link to Comment Cthonic
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Switzers and Hessians

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 14:34 | Link to Comment Seer
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al-Qaeda.

Consider that they're actually ON the same side as the US in the Syria skirmish.  And, that they were used in the Balkan war, by the US.

Not going to get Europeans involved in any more wars, plain and simple: they're going to be too busy burning down their own dens of thieves.

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 14:33 | Link to Comment forexskin
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and as an added bonus their blue tidy-bowl head gear makes a very good target!

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 12:59 | Link to Comment Totentänzerlied
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Right because all those Redcoats, subjects of the Crown, had such a terrible time firing on the colonists, also subjects of the Crown.

The military never has a problem turning on its country, that is an ancient, undeniable, obvious lesson of history. The military exists as much to keep the prisoners in as to keep the invaders out.

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 14:37 | Link to Comment Seer
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Yes, but... there's one word that suggests that there could be a bit of a complication in this: "turncoats."

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 11:53 | Link to Comment centerline
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Excellent article.  If it walks like duck, talks like duck, etc.

Human nature is not going allow for a peaceful, quiet shift away from the exposive population growth and mindless consumption of the industrial age... which obviously cannot continue forever.  Social complexity in most developed nations is already maxed out... just look at the fragility of the supply chains and how quickly urban regions melt down when systems fail.  Millions and millions of promises made to baby-boomers that we know cannot be honored.   The list just keeps going on and on.

We are in a perfect storm scenerio.  The opportunity to change course was missed long ago.  Therefore, we only have the consequences to deal with today.  The current fiat/reserve currency debacle is just icing on the fucking cake... the mathematics of exponential growth doomed to failure the same as physical realities on the same course.

 

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 11:56 | Link to Comment overmedicatedun...
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the coming age of aquarius peace and love upon the planet..well we hit a wrong turn..welcome to NWO reptile elite world. all we tax units need to know is which boot to lick.

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