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Submitted by John Aziz of Azizonomics

Assange Or Corzine?

Priorities are a bitch.

The United States won’t prosecute Corzine for raiding segregated customer accounts, but will happily convene a Grand Jury in preparation for prosecuting Julian Assange for exposing the truth about war crimes.

From the New York Times:

A criminal investigation into the collapse of the brokerage firm MF Global and the disappearance of about $1 billion in customer money is now heading into its final stage without charges expected against any top executives. After 10 months of stitching together evidence on the firm’s demise, criminal investigators are concluding that chaos and porous risk controls at the firm, rather than fraud, allowed the money to disappear, according to people involved in the case.

Corzine is considering opening a new hedge fund, though the notion that anyone — even a slack-jawed muppet happy to buy whatever Goldman ‘s prop traders want to sell — would seed Corzine money so he can trade or steal it away seems absurd — rather like putting a child molester in charge of a day-care.

But nobody knows how much dirt Corzine has on other Wall Street crooks. Not only may Corzine get away with corzining MF Global’s clients’ funds, he may well end up with a whole raft of seed money to play with from those former colleagues and associates who might prefer he remain silent regarding other indiscretions he may be aware of.

But the issue at hand is the sense that we have entered a phase of exponential criminality and corruption. A slavering crook like Corzine who stole $200 million of clients’ funds can walk free. Meanwhile, a man who exposed evidence of serious war crimes is for that act so keenly wanted by US authorities that Britain has threatened to throw hundreds of years of diplomatic protocol and treaties into the trash and raid the embassy of another sovereign state to deliver him to a power that seems intent not only to criminalise him, but perhaps even to summarily execute him. The Obama administration, of course, has made a habit of summary extrajudicial executions of those that it suspects of terrorism, and the detention and prosecution of whistleblowers. And the ooze of large-scale financial corruption, rate-rigging, theft and fraud goes on unpunished.

 

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Thu, 08/16/2012 - 15:36 | 2711843 LawsofPhysics
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Isn't  fascism great?

That's a good sheeple....

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 15:38 | 2711857 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Jon who??

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 15:46 | 2711900 Motorhead
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Honorable Jon.

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 15:50 | 2711908 ZerOhead
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Inventor of Corzonite... a spray-on substance.

Apparently shit doesn't stick to it.

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 15:51 | 2711920 MillionDollarBonus_
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A major problem with the Internet is that it allows underground ideas to spread and become "mainstreamed". Notions that once would have remained within isolated subcultures can now spread to the larger society with astonishing speed. Take hostility toward financial institutions and the government, both of which were common among conspiracists in the 19th and 20th centuries. The internet has allowed these memes to spread to the point at which some of the craziest nutjobs now feel comfortable speaking openly about their insane anti-government, anti-Federal Reserve ideas.

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 15:54 | 2711936 LawsofPhysics
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Yes, ideas like gravity and the sun being the center of the solar system.  Bastards, all of them MDB, keep trying to educate everyone... (do I really need a <sarc> flag)

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 16:05 | 2711966 malikai
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MDB isn't educating us, he's edutaining us. It's so much better.

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 16:09 | 2711991 Precious
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You didn't have sex with that troll.

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 16:32 | 2712085 Tijuana Donkey Show
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You didn't have sex with that troll all by yourself, you had help building up to it. 

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 16:41 | 2712111 The Big Ching-aso
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"....porous risk controls................"

The client's wallet was opened & now people are poor us.

 

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 18:55 | 2712535 Clever Name
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Corzine for chief fluffer!

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 15:54 | 2711939 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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If only it would spread faster than it is currently.

[sigh]

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 16:41 | 2712122 americanspirit
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Yes indeed Mr. LH - if only the meme would spread faster. And if only just a few people would begin taking the obvious actions. Like people with a terminal diagnosis who have nothing to lose. That would be an excellent start. And then, next time some crazed lunatic decides to shoot up a school or a church or a theater, if only they would pause and say to themselves - wait a minute. If I'm going to do this, why not .....

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 17:25 | 2712282 Things that go bump
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And so much more fun than chemotherapy.  

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 17:52 | 2712376 Things that go bump
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I am so honored when someone cares enough to give me a down vote.  It tells me that I shot true.

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 18:33 | 2712481 ali-ali-al-qomfri
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well you didn't create that cancer, someone else did,

yup.

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 23:33 | 2712555 Al Gorerhythm
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That's the spirit, American; get the sick or terminally ill to stand up for your rights and justice.  Let's empty the insane assylums, strap suicide jackets on them and send them to their glorius martyrdom, all in support of our freedom movement. 

What have they got to lose, right?

Only their last precious moments but that is a small price to pay for our freedom.

Excellent place to start.

My Liberty at no cost.

Fuck Yeah!

USA! USA!

(Sigh.)

Fri, 08/17/2012 - 02:13 | 2713337 Things that go bump
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Some might prefer to go out with a bang rather than a whimper.

Fri, 08/17/2012 - 06:30 | 2713509 Al Gorerhythm
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Then step up.

Sat, 08/18/2012 - 03:26 | 2716206 Things that go bump
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Soon enough.  

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 19:38 | 2712637 aint no fortuna...
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This won't be a Grand Jury for Assange, it will be a fucking tribunal. They'll probably hold it in Gitmo - oh, wait, Barry shut Gitmo down, just like he promised us in 2008.

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 16:03 | 2711979 t0mmyBerg
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Are you fucking kidding me?  Purposely or not MDB you are a tool.  Three words of many I could use:  Guillotines and pitchforks

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 16:17 | 2712033 BeetleBailey
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What a raft of SHIT you spew MillionDoucheBag.....

Lemme...fix your shit for ya;

The internet has allowed these memes to spread to the point at which some of the craziest nutjobs (read:MillionDoucheBag) now feel comfortable speaking openly about their insane LOVE OF BIG GOVERNMENT, AND STUPID ASSED FEDERAL RESERVE LIES AND BULLSHIT.

There..better...now fuck off.

 

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 16:25 | 2712059 redpill
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You didn't troll that.

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 16:30 | 2712073 NotApplicable
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I LOLed

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 16:43 | 2712132 The Big Ching-aso
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Imagine if there hadn't been any regulators - this could've been maybe 1/16 worse.

Fri, 08/17/2012 - 02:08 | 2713332 OpenThePodBayDoorHAL
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Yeah at least this way the lawyers got to make a bunch of money. We pretend to have laws, regulators pretend to enforce them, and lawyers pretend to defend them. And the customers can pretend they still have money in their accounts. It's the pretend economy.

 

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 16:50 | 2712145 falak pema
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MDB has a way of nailing it by advocating the outrageous beyond the obvious. In his crazy way he is in front of the evil curve. Look to MDB to understand what THEY WILL concoct next : the apology for crime made into spicy vice. 

Le vice au bras du crime! 

Or said otherwise by Bony himself : un tas de merde dans un bas de soie!

It goes down well for the Squid brigade, all annointed with the respectability of the "best and brightest of WS's marvels".

Its time to cut their marbles! 

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 16:42 | 2712130 Michael
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The MSM is the #1 enemy of the people. They think they get to pick elected government employees, write and revise history, and brainwash the sheeple. The Internet bloggers and lurkers now gets to do that.

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 18:52 | 2712526 Anusocracy
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Actually, they're tied for second with every other group that supports government.

Government is the #1 enemy of the people. Untold trillions stolen, untold trillions destroyed, hundreds of millions killed.

And still going strong.

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 17:59 | 2712395 EverythingFubar
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The sooner that "hostility towards financial institutions (libor fixing anyone?) and government" spreads, the better. And the closer we get to purging ourselves of the rot that has taken over. The more voices of dissent there are (even crazies), the less the scumbuckets can fleece the muppets. Used to be called freedom of speech and upheld as a principle of Democracy. Remember Democracy? Oh.. you don't..

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 18:20 | 2712450 Lost Word
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MillionDollarBonus, your troll fee, or was that intended to be sarcasm?

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 18:49 | 2712518 turnus68
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So much for the

First Amendment to the United States Constitution.

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

I guess North Korea will embrace you very fast.You will have no problem adapting to your new country.

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 19:49 | 2712666 SAME AS IT EVER WAS
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@you MILLION DOLLAR DOUCHEBAG

The internet has allowed people to seek and find the TRUTH, amoung a great many other benefits.

There has always been and always will be "nutjobs" like yourself you HOMO TROLL

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 16:01 | 2711910 Precious
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Corzines are the reason the world needs Assanges.

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 17:28 | 2712290 freet0pian
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Corzine is an uber prick, but how isn't Assange just controlled opposition?

There isnt anything significant that hippie has released. Just some fucking gossips for the sheeple.

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 18:47 | 2712515 Al Gorerhythm
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Please Lennon, don't give that prick an out via satire. He deserves to be remembered. He deserves an honorable mention in dispatches. Rember him as Jon "the con" Corzine.

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 15:57 | 2711961 midtowng
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Gotta love it!

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 15:58 | 2711965 Stuart
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that's EXACTLY what it is.  FASCISM.  People, rather I should say 'sheeple' better start getting their heads out of their asses and start paying attention to what examples such as this really portend for their own well-being.

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 16:32 | 2712035 i-dog
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We're now moving beyond fascism. What we are now witnessing is what happens when those in control just resort to outright looting in broad daylight -- because they know this is their last chance to grab what they can before the gates are slammed shut on independent action.

Prior to the "event horizon", they still try to cover up and legitimise corruption -- in the expectation that they will be out of office before the crash comes.

But, after passing the "event horizon", those "in the know" (and their families and friends) just go balls to the wall to grab whatever they can. That's what we're now seeing in broad daylight.

My guess is now a Columbus Day "bank holiday" weekend for a major excuse (war? false flag? national emergency?) and breakdown (which would also have "esoteric" connotations for the Luciferians-in-Charge). Hedge accordingly.

 

PS. Back on topic ... I still think this latest circus is a cover for something. Maybe even building "cred" for Wikileaks before a damning "leak" of [selected] diplomatic cables?

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 15:59 | 2711967 I am on to you
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Agree with you+10,its great,its need and its clean,might be the greatest" ISM" of all time,only out runned by Egoism.

If it wasnt for Newton, water would run upwards!

They ,the Banksters should put ,Slimeballs up for speculation,it would beat, Basebooks, at any time!

More sadly is,that Bradly Manning,the forgotten kid,is the guy paying the hard time,for showing to the world,what realy is going on,i meen for those who,havnt got it in yet!

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 17:58 | 2712387 sgt_doom
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But the Svenksa-heads demand Assange be extradited there, as do the Brit Twits, 'cause two women (or a woman and an avowed lesbian (???) slept with him).  Certainly the UK always does this sort of thing:

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/uk-wont-extradite-man-accused-rape-minn

(And the Swedes claim they would never allow anyone to be extradited to a country with the death penalty, although they will always allow the CIA to extreme rendition anyone this wish to, to any torture/death penalty site they want --- as has been the case already with Thomas Bodstrom as Justice Minister and Carl Bildt in power!)

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 18:55 | 2712534 Chuck Walla
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If Assange can get his self-righteous head on straight for a minute and "contribute" to the right candidate, no telling what he can get away with.

 

FORWARD SOVIET!

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 20:08 | 2712723 DeadFred
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In a way you are highlighting why some people may have good reason to invest is the slimeball's new fund. Fundamentals mean very little today. You can make a lot of money by frontrunning one Fed announcement. How much did the inside circle make when Paulson told them AIG was going bankrupt but the bonds would be good. If Obama gets a second term do you think Corzine won't be at the next 'lunch' when the inside scoop gets dished out. The best evidence that he could make money for you is that he is worrying about how to set up a hedge fund and not worrying about the soap he dropped in the prison shower. The money would be tainted but how many would care?

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 15:44 | 2711846 malikai
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Par for the course here at Insanity Hills Country Club and Circus.

EDIT: I'd like to offer up a caption for that picture of Assange and Crozine.

"One of these guys is giong to jail for terrible crimes. The other is a real criminal."

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 16:03 | 2711944 Precious
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One of these guys goes to jail for consentual sex without a rubber.  

GUILTY YOUR HONOR ---- WE ALL GO TO JAIL.

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 16:44 | 2712127 Mesquite
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Actually, wasn't it: "the rubber broke..'

Couple of 30 somethings..that learned about each other, and got jealous...

PS..All that trumped up sh*t came out of the wood work when it was learned that

Wikileaks was due to spill the beans on one of the tbtf banks...

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 15:37 | 2711849 Flakmeister
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Hang Corzine....

And with the same rope take care of Phil Gramm....

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 16:07 | 2712000 rayduh4life
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Don't forget, Graham is a whiner.

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 17:28 | 2712108 DaveyJones
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I helped negotiate Corzine's pre-prosecution deal. In order to avoid charging, he agreed to provide testimony that Assange tried to rape him. It's almost as if those bankers will sell anyone out.

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 15:37 | 2711851 SDRII
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On big elaborate dance. Yes,the international man of mystery also. Ecuador, the land of odious debt.

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 15:38 | 2711859 NorthenSoul
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I can't wait to read the trolls, Obamabots and National-Sekurity psychodouches expounding on the grave existential threat that the very existence of Julian Assange  pose to this country.

 

I can use a good cyncial laugh; take it away asswipes!

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 16:20 | 2712041 Precious
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Rule #1 of defraudcracy:  "Never embarass the muppet masters."

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 18:44 | 2712512 Clever Name
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You wont (shouldnt) get em here. I am on lets say a more 'conservative leaning' forum and there are people actually calling him a traitor (his non US Citizenism notwithstanding) and his head. I dont believe for a second the charges against him.

I am interested to see how this all plays out.

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 15:39 | 2711866 Shizzmoney
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@Maxkeiser: If Assange had a banking license and borrowed $1 tr. he could break any law anywhere and be called a hero by Cameron and Obama.

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 16:57 | 2712186 defencev
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You are quoting Max Keiser. Let us not forget that Keiser spewing his bullshit on Russian propaganda network RT sponsored by mafioso Putin. That is where he is getting his paycheck. There is absolutely no doubt that Corzine should go to jail and the whole affair exposes the cronism of the current Obama administration. However, I am sick and tired of stupid Azizoid. This is the guy who said that Mathematics hijacked Economics. There is nothing more idiotic than this statement. Assange is wanted in Sweden on rape charges and therefore do not throw demagogical guesses about what is behind it. If you ask me whom I trust more: Swedish Judicial system or corrupt Marxist government of Equador, you can easily guess my answer.

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 17:24 | 2712279 I am on to you
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Brasil???????

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 17:34 | 2712308 WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot
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Assange has not been charged in Sweden. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/48694550. Getting him to go to Sweden is most likely to facilitate his extradition to the US. http://www.smh.com.au/world/secretive-us-keeping--assange-in-limbo-exjudge-20120804-23lub.html. But the US can't tip its hand until Assange is able to be extradited. I agree with you about Corzine, though.

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 17:38 | 2712315 Aziz
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RT is a decent network that provides a counterweight to Western media bullshit. Putin is no worse than a lot of the people in our Western governments. How many innocent children has Putin killed in drone strikes? Less than Obama, I bet.

And mathematicians did hijack economics. I'll take Menger and Smith and Hayek who at most used very simple mathematics over bullshit neoclassical nonsense equilibrium models that create hyper-complex non-reality-based bullshit that doesn't tell us anything about anything in the real world.

Assange is wanted in Sweden for a broken condom. Ecuadorians offered Sweden the chance to come to London and interview him. Sweden refused. This is not about the broken condom situation; this is about extraditing Assange to America. 

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 21:27 | 2712905 defencev
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RT is a decent network? Putin is a decent President? Now you exposed yourself competely. Mathematics cannot hijack anything. It is an abstract science. There

are ignorant people who try to apply Mathematics in the situations where the tools they are trying to apply are inadequate or simply not applicable. Your stance expose you as an ignorant Charlatan as it was clear from your article on Mathematics. Acquisations in Sweden are about sexual assualt and molestation. So you are lying here. If it was about broken condom why he would flee Sweden?

And do not try  to spin about this bullshit with American extradiction. It is just excuse Assange is using to avoid an extradiction to Sweden.

It is very unfortunate that idiots like you dominate this website.

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 21:39 | 2712937 Aziz
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Did I say Putin was a decent President? No. But he's no worse than Obama. Putin never signed an NDAA. I'd say indefinite detention without trial is a lot worse than sending a punk rock band to jail for singing anti-establishment songs in a church. 

Did I say "mathematics" hijacked anything? No — I said mathematicians hijacked economics, which is essentially what you noted — people using inappropriate tools for the situation, which is exactly my point. That's a completely different statement. Economics is about understanding the economy — the flow of labour, goods and services. I don't think it's inaccurate to say mathematics has taken a hugely more prominent role in the last half century, leading to neoclassicism and hyper-abstraction, which of course failed dramatically in predicting the crisis. I prefer simpler heuristics, all of which use some mathematical tools and notation to a certain degre. So don't accuse me of things I have never said.

Assange never fled Sweden. And Sweden have had ample opportunities to question Assange in England. Their refusal to proves that they want him in custody when he has never even been charged with a crime. This is nonsense, and is all about extraditing him to America.

It's unfortunate you are tarnishing this site with your baseless ad hominem attacks, schoolboy misunderstandings and outright lies.

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 22:51 | 2713104 defencev
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Mathematicians are by definition the people who are doing Mathematics. They did not hijack anything (and never tried) including Economics. If there are Charlatans who pretend that they understand Mathematical tools and try to apply them inadequately in various situations , it has nothing to do with Mathematics or Mathematicians. Yes, indeed, the role of Mathematics (including Applied Mathematics) is growing and if applied adequately led to tremendous progress in science and technology. It is absolutely unfair to blame Mathematics or Mathematicins to various failures which are due to Charlatans who do not understand Mathematics. I recall your original article and you definitely belong to the group of people who have no clue about Mathematics , yet like to pass the judgement about its usefulness (a clear sign of ignorance).

Assange was accused by two women who were supporters of Wikileaks and who hosted him while he visited Sweden in sexual molestation and assault. I do not believe that UK would consider extradiction seriously if Swedish request was unfounded. After all, UK and Sweden is not Ecuador.

Regarding RT, I do not know whether you ever watched this network but it is essentially Soviet-style Anti-American Propaganda which is frankly quite ridiculuos taking into account the current state of affairs in Russia , the mass protests in major cities, wide-spread fraud during elections, murder and maiming prominent jounalists, unbelievable corruption and lawlessness.

I guess you have no clue about the state of affairs in Russia if you compare Putin with Obama (and I am not a fan of Obama as it is clear from my posts).

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 23:55 | 2713217 Aziz
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I watch RT most days. The TV news I watch is mostly RT, Al Jazeera, Bloomberg and the BBC. It's not Soviet-style propaganda. On international affairs (e.g. middle east) it is very balanced and nuanced. Obviously I don't think it's the best place to find out about the situation in Russia regarding opposition to Putin, but there are many Western sources (e.g. the Guardian) that take a strongly anti-Putin stance to balance that out. I don't think it's fair to invoke the old Cold War rhetoric; since the end of the Cold War and especially since 9/11, America has become vastly more authoritarian. There's much more to critique, and RT hits a lot more nails than any American network.

As for math, I grew up around mathematicians and physicists, I read papers using mathematical models and notation every day, and periodically study pure math intensely. You draw whatever conclusions you like; in its current form, mathematics is a very useful language that I use hundreds of times every day. However when you are constructing a model and the model stops being empirical and reality-based (e.g.. neoclassical economics, string theory, certain climate models, certain quantitative finance models) you are not going to be predicting anything at all. This is a very severe misuse of what is in any case a functionally limited tool i.e. linear models used to model nonlinear systems. You can't effectively model nonlinearity, no matter how beautifully a pure math approximation might look.

Read some Nassim Taleb.

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 15:40 | 2711869 Getting Old Sucks
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I'm hoping that they get this guy.  However, that's b ecause I want his nuclear release to help destroy TPTB.  If he has no nuclear release, fuck him.

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 16:36 | 2712094 Tijuana Donkey Show
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If he doesn't have anything, then he's a true idiot for sure. I wonder if he did all of this thinking he would get laid.......

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 17:16 | 2712249 Getting Old Sucks
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TPTB = 6 so far

Who are you?  Remember everyone shills are more important to TPTB everywhere.  Especially here!

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 15:43 | 2711886 buzzsaw99
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The corzine-o-matic banking utensil- It slices, it dices, it makes sure JULIAN FRIES!

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 15:52 | 2711923 Seize Mars
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Welcome to Marxist Hell.

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 15:52 | 2711925 Sir Real
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Truth is treason in a nation of Lies.

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 16:10 | 2712004 rayduh4life
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Truth is always the enemy of the state.

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 15:53 | 2711929 eurusdog
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Ecuador will give him over when the wheels have been greased appropriately. This is the way politics works.

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 16:41 | 2712126 DaveyJones
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Maybe but history and humans have a breaking point in both directions. A lot of people in a lot of places have had with this worldwide bullshit.

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 20:45 | 2712826 knowless
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if he can get out of europe before the implosion then there will most likely be bigger fish. south america seems like a good bet as long as he could keep rolling with it, they're gonna have to play arbiter against the warring east and west.. far enough south and you might just be out of americas(USA) grasp. once the US loses its coastal peripherals in the old world(japan/korea, europe), it's going to feel alot less in charge globally, and the southern continent will have a much more equal footing at that point in comparison to the last century...

 

once the loss of the USA's stranglehold on shipping routes which are only held because of occupied territories on either side of the seas occurs.. primarily once national sovereignty is reasserted on a global scale after a collapse in trade(currencies), we're back to the good old days whether you like it or not. open ocean is anyone's game. can't have a fleet of nuclear subs bought with money printing no more, actually have to make them>? unpossible.

 

 

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 15:53 | 2711930 Bazinga
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Since Corzine is planning to start a hedge fund, let's all start a bunch of fake accounts and Corzine HIS ass right back.

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 16:06 | 2711992 Conman
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Problem is you WILL go to jail for fraud.

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 15:54 | 2711938 SymforniX
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Ho hum.  SS,DD. I have no fucks left to give.

To the NWO: Shit or get off the fucking pot, you pussies. What are you waiting for? Oh, right. Ammo delivery. Cool.

Let's just get this overwith already.

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 15:55 | 2711942 RallyRoundTheFamily
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Weekey leeks is not what the MSM says it is, their acknowledgement and constant pumping gives it away.

The comparison however is funny, should have showed some guy doing 10 years for stealing a loaf of bread vs the honorable JC.

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 15:55 | 2711943 JohnFrodo
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I am in my 50's and what has really changed is the bad guys dont even pretend any more. We will do what we want and if you do not like it "get over it"

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 16:04 | 2711988 DCFusor
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Yup, that's my take too.  At least they used to try to keep their crimes secret, no need now.  Wow.

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 16:13 | 2712017 Ghordius
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Mine too. Finance is usually supported by the pillars of Law, Trust and Character.

Looks like we are standing on one only.

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 16:24 | 2712058 Precious
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Like being the biggest slut on MTV, they are proudly making a spectacle of it.

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 16:46 | 2712150 pd45
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Right, there's no shame anymore. Everyone demands freedom, but the responsibility and self-control that are integral part of it, has all been forgotten.


Thu, 08/16/2012 - 16:45 | 2712144 DaveyJones
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history runs in cycles where arrogance, waste, theft and deception reach a breaking point. The math and the patience are wearing thin

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 15:56 | 2711948 falga
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Yes, let it go Nuclear. If Assange really has something, let him release it and see what happens.... He probably has and hat is why they are so keen to get to him to make a deal...

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 16:35 | 2712091 NotApplicable
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Assange is nothing more than an agent provocateur who is being led around by the nose in order to create drama in the appropriate places.

I wonder, is he still using Rothschild's lawyer?

Funny how all of his leaks have helped, rather than hurt the status quo.

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 16:38 | 2712106 falak pema
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where is your sarc button? 

Fri, 08/17/2012 - 02:18 | 2713341 Savvy
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+1 Glad to see someone thinking clearly.

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 15:56 | 2711953 Joebloinvestor
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The UK won't go after people who MURDER their policewomen, but will lay siege to an embassy for a creep.

Corzine is well connected.

End of that story and prosecution.

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 15:57 | 2711958 Spastica Rex
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Corzine loves America. Assange hates America.

I think that explains it?

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 16:36 | 2712093 Umh
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Corzine loves fucking Americans over. Assange is a gadflay of sorts.

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 16:36 | 2712101 falak pema
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Corzine loves Corporate America and its crony politicians. Assange hates Corporate America and crony politicians.

Wouldn't you agree there is a slight difference ? between America AND corporate America...

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 16:38 | 2712107 Spastica Rex
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I was being droll.

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 16:51 | 2712172 DaveyJones
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you mean he loves "democracy" - now available at fine Walmarts everywhere

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 16:55 | 2712184 Haager
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Me thinks most haters hate the fact that a little nerd from the woods of down under had the balls to show the world the true weakness and the hypocrisy of the great system.

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 15:57 | 2711959 Cocomaan
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AZIZ, come on man. Stop complaining. Fighting terror is hard work. 

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 15:59 | 2711968 Brother Sebastian
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The difference between Corzine and Assange:  the former made them money; the latter cost them.

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 16:03 | 2711974 Vaiman
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The dirty rotten low down scoundrels and their ungodly system have a day of accounting coming and they will not escape or squirm their way out of it.  Judgement will begin.  Their temporal kingdoms will be done away with and it will suck to be them.  All this we see happening was predicted long ago folks.  Jesus IS coming back to judge the nations and he has been very patient while  waiting for those who are yet turning to him for redemption.  The trumpet will sound soon and the countdown to the end of Satan's sick kingdom and all those who serve him will begin.  I sincerely believe time is short.  Then God will restore all things as he had purposed in the beginning for those who are his, before man screwed up in the beginning and subjected all of creation to the fall.  Without God there is no hope for us.  Man would completely plunder and destroy everything.  That's quite obvious....just look around.  The lust of the eyes, the lust of the flesh and the pride of life.  Nothing new under the sun!

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 16:54 | 2712180 DaveyJones
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it might not be Jesus, but it could be large groups of men taking his name in vain.

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 16:05 | 2711980 “Rebellion to t...
“Rebellion to tyranny is obedience to God.”-ThomasJefferson's picture

When a morally bankrupt career crony capitalist/politician continually shits on whoever he so pleases, some punishments fit the crime.

Necklace: Native South African's practice a form of street justice where the guilty party is secured to a tree or post, a gasoline soaked tire is placed around the head/upper torso of the offender, and then the tire gets ignited.  Fireworks display lasts for hours.

Some may consider this cruel and unusual punishment.  Others may consider this a deterrent to those who routinely commit crimes against humanity.

When those who routinely and brazenly betray the public trust get to walk away without any fear of punishment from the authorities, the system is broken and We the People must fix it!

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 16:19 | 2712038 Dr. Engali
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I agree the system is broken and needs to be fixed. But I also don't want to live in a society that sets people in fire. I don't know what's worse a system that you get killed by the mob or a system were you get killed by the apathy of others.

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 16:47 | 2712081 “Rebellion to t...
“Rebellion to tyranny is obedience to God.”-ThomasJefferson's picture

When the rule of law is so arbitrary and unevenly enforced, people lose faith in the system.  When the authority and legitimacy of any government, especially the USA, becomes more and more suspect, the rule of law ends and the people enact their own forms of punishment.

I fear for our American way of life and future.  Armed drones patrolling our skies, while fascist pig politicos, banksters, and assorted crony pals make up the new rules.  Those who expose the criminal behavior of the ruling elite must hide out in fear for their life.

People behave when they believe laws will be enforced; preferably through a legitimate criminal justice system....  or a legitimate street justice system if and when when the government abdicates its responsibilities. When punishment is swift and severe, the swindlers and sociopaths hide under their rocks. 

*Corzine does deserve the lit match.

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 16:42 | 2712133 Spastica Rex
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Are human beings something more than self-interested animals? That's the question. I don't know the answer, but I hope we can be. It's about the last hope I have left.

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 16:58 | 2712192 DaveyJones
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They're worse. Self interested animals don't systematically poison their food system 

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 17:03 | 2712216 Spastica Rex
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:(

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 17:26 | 2712286 DaveyJones
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here have some high fructose corn syrup - you'll feel better

just don't let the corn seed infect your crop - or we'll sue you   

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 17:22 | 2712271 america4me2
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I agree, a society that sets people on fire is not one that exudes the positive.  Better we just put a bullet in the sonofabitches.  Less cost, and no one has to walk because of donating his tires....

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 16:19 | 2712039 HowardBeale
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You can have the tires off of every vehicle I own if you promise to use them in such a way! And  I will happily walk everywhere, knowing that each step I take is a step toward the reinstatement of the rule of law.

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 16:05 | 2711989 Pretorian
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What a wonderfull world. 

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 16:07 | 2711996 SwingForce
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Yeah, messed up. But let's give Obozo another 4 years. (Romney would be better?)

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 16:07 | 2711997 JR
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FOR THE FINAL TIME we need to get this straight: Corzine is Goldman Sachs and Goldman Sachs is one of the principal owners of the all-powerful NY Federal Reserve Bank. There are two sides to this world confrontation; one side - the people who would prefer their lives to be lived in peace, prosperity and happiness; the other side – those who seek to deprive them of that peace and every single, solitary penny that they own.

And that latter side is represented by the international banking cartel whose tentacles easily encircle the Congress of the United States, the Presidency of the United States, much of the ownership leverage of U.S. corporations and, now, the last tiny piece left of the British Empire.

Why is this a surprise that Julian Assange has become the most hunted man on the planet; hunted by the many lieutenants under the employ of the Federal Reserve System, as well as by those in the British, Swedish and United States courts of law?

The Assange supporters, knowing that the initial charges were based on a setup to trap him, rightfully fear that there is no justice in any court when the powers of Goldman, Morgan and the others have their hands on the levers of justice.

You have presented a zealous appeal for the safeguard of our country and our liberties, John Aziz. We, as well as Julian Assange, want a voice in our own government.

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 16:13 | 2712019 Precious
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Goldman Sachs new sign on their shiny building.

"NOBODY FUCKS WITH GOLDMAN SACHS"

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 16:07 | 2711998 Dr. Engali
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But the red team is better blue team. Or is the blue team better than the red team? I'm so confused... pass the bottle please it's drink thirty.

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 16:07 | 2711999 Seasmoke
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Kill the messenger !!!!

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 16:08 | 2712001 kato
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A travesty that Corzine has not been prosecuted and a big, bad negative mark against Obama and the 'Justice' Department that he has not been prosecuted. They cannot let this guy run money again. They blocked Brian Hunter for goodness sake and all he did was kind of legitimately lose a billion.

The new Republican VP pick sold his bank holdings the day Ben held a meeting with 'Government' officials to tell them the system was on the precipice (other elected officials did same). They are all either crooks or self-dealers. Country is a mess.

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 16:10 | 2712007 bubbleburster
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"But the issue at hand is the sense that we have entered a phase of exponential criminality and corruption."

These are the truest words I've read in months.  Right on the money.  This is how Rome was doomed - complete corruption.  The USA is following fast on that path....straight to perdition.

 

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 16:14 | 2712026 centerline
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In only a few short years we have watched it move out from the shadows, largely unchallenged, to operate in plain view for all to see.

Simply amazing.

To me, this says everything I need to know.  

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 16:11 | 2712009 JohnKozac
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<<exponential criminality and corruption>>

 

It's the latest rage.

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 16:17 | 2712034 centerline
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I'm just waiting for my neighbor to talk about starting a hedge fund.  That's how I will know the end is near.

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 16:16 | 2712013 Mercury
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Meanwhile, a man who exposed evidence of serious war crimes is for that act so keenly wanted by US authorities that Britain has threatened to throw hundreds of years of diplomatic protocol and treaties into the trash and raid the embassy of another sovereign state...

Well, not quite...

 "[Assange] raised the hackles of exactly the appendages that now have the most power to manipulate him into their waiting arms. Assange is now relying on very perverted (and simply wrong) interpretations of the traditions of the very diplomatic corps he labeled frauds, murderers, to wisk him away in a Hollywood ending. And the world is shocked, shocked that it's not working."

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 16:14 | 2712023 tlnzz
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When does it become time for vigilante or mob justice?

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 22:07 | 2713002 URZIZMINE
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After an EMP. No more dancing with stars, CNN and snap cards.

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 16:14 | 2712025 HowardBeale
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The day the criminal organization of the U.S. that calls itself the government jails or executes Julian Assange is the day I will become a wanted man...for at that point, there is nothing left to lose and everything to gain.

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 16:16 | 2712030 Meesohaawnee
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somewhere Hitler has a huge smile on his face. The legacy lives on.

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 16:24 | 2712037 spekulatn
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Beware of false flags.

 

 

It seems to us that the Internet Reformation is gaining traction, inevitably, as we long ago predicted. We first pointed to Congressman Ron Paul as an embodiment of the modern Reformation but as the powers-that-be push forward on all fronts, they are assaulting many other bright and courageous people who then step to the fore.

The initial Reformation was in part sponsored by the power elite, and the elites are trying to take over THIS reformation as well. But the trouble with taking over the Internet is that one has to do it in full VIEW of the Internet.

Confusion, therefore, is employed. "They" are using apparent false flags like Julian Assange, Anonymous and even faux alternative currency movements to undercut the tremendous progress that free-market thinking has made over the past decade.

But as we long ago predicted, the Internet Reformation is fairly unstoppable at the moment. The European Union is falling apart, the global warming scam is unraveling, the war on terror has not gone as planned in Afghanistan and many other elite promotions have been exposed in detail on the Internet.

The ancient power elite, that evidently wants to run the world and uses its control of central banks to fund its mania, is in no sense defeated but it is facing challenges that it has not faced since the Gutenberg Press itself began exposing the power structure 600 years ago.

Then, the Church was riven, a New World was discovered, two vast revolutions were initiated and the cause of freedom was at once massively advanced and then, after a time, retarded.

It took the elites about 400 years to fully control the damage. They didn't really overcome it until about the 20th century, and now the Internet Reformation has undone much of the globalist progress that was made.

Let's take these three examples cited above and analyze how they may be contributing to the current Reformation.

The violent raid on Kim Dotcom's mansion may soon be seen as disastrous overreach by US Federal authorities. It was no doubt thought that 400 pound Kim Dotcom was an easy target. He could be mocked and generally demonized as a greedy, overweight criminal.

But those in the upper reaches of this elite global conspiracy are still floundering when it comes to confronting the damage the Internet is doing to their plans.

Copyright was apparently invented by the power elite of the day to retard information flow from the Gutenberg Press. It was a brilliant stroke, at once slowing injurious information and placing many informed communicators on the side of the state itself because copyright would enrich them.

But in a 21st century Internet world we need only to turn to natural law to decide how well copyright works now. Laws that demand egregious violent enforcement and then are STILL flouted are dysfunctional ones. They are in legal parlance "positive" rather than natural. Like prohibition, they don't work.

 

 

http://www.thedailybell.com/4178/Kim-Dotcom-Resists-Pussy-Riot-Protests-...

 

 

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 16:20 | 2712044 Uber Vandal
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Some guest post articles write about how good it is to be on a farm for sale (by the guest poster no less) in a paricular South American country, and how it is time to escape tyranny.

How can one escape tyranny when the rule of law is obviously no longer applicable?

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 16:36 | 2712095 debtor of last ...
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In the end: gravity. Assange will be the South African miner who stood up after the shooting and told Corzine: Game Over.

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 16:42 | 2712131 Shameful
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One of the pillars of the Empire is fraud, of which the Honorable Jon Corzine is quite capable.  Imagine where the Empire would be without fraud?  A world where imports have to be paid for with exports or real tangible wealth, where spending has to in some way be related to revenue, a world where a person was held to their words.  It would be an end to the Ponzi Paradise, and those that point out that not only does the Emperor have no clothes, but he is a foul degenerate...well those people the empire has to deal with.

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 16:44 | 2712138 Zola
Thu, 08/16/2012 - 16:51 | 2712169 Atomizer
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Assange is the distraction story to bury Corzine theft scandal. Besides, MF Global was doing God's work.

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 17:23 | 2712276 linrom
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This is a very good example that Aziz is pointing out about the power of MSM to drive news agenda: it's not the news that drives MSM reporting but its the MSM spin that makes the news.

However I strongly disagree about the power of internet to inform. On the issues of economic and social justice, bloggers such as ZH share the same political ideology as the elites that control MSM media. In fact, ZH is one of the websites that obfuscates reality with fiction about taxation, job creation and productive use of capital versus speculation.

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 18:05 | 2712408 Kalevi
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There is a tortured person in jail in USA who exposed all the sick crap.

Julian Assange never gave him any credit, he don't a care a flying fuck about him.

Julian Assange is asked to answer questions for some nasty shit in Sweden, there is pissed off woman who don't give a shit about that he is a hero for the fucking free world, she want's justice. 

 

Too complicated for you?

 

 

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 18:24 | 2712462 Arkadaba
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No, but it seems it is a little too complicated for you:

http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/stories/2012/07/19/3549280.htm

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 19:42 | 2712653 Kalevi
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Thank you for the link and some education, but there is nothing there contradicting my post, he should go to Sweden and clear his name.

Sweden has always been the only European country in the NATO paying their full membership dues, without being part of NATO, and they are lapdogs of US, but Mr Assange is not a unknown raghead who can be bundled up and thrown in a CIA plane.

The Swedish government will fall if Mr Assange is extradited to US.

Mr Assange is a coward, and as I found from your link, horny bastard without morals, which I don't care about.

But why has he not stood up and defended Mr Manning?

He owns all his fame to him.

Free Mr Manning and send Mr Assange to Sweden and we can concentrate on  the real issue of sick fucking war politics and corruption.

Mr Assange is only promoting Mr Assange.

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 18:18 | 2712441 rehypothecator
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Corzine stole $1.6 billion.  The article is wrong, $200 million is what Asendorf stole at Perigene, and the blockquoted text is wrong, "about a billion" ($900 million) is what was stolen from customers for margining US futures only, not counting another $700 million that was also purloined from accounts in London, used by US customers to margin positions on foreign exchanges.  Total = $1.6 billion. 

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 18:32 | 2712479 boogerbently
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....and, appropriately, NO comments on Assange.

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 19:02 | 2712559 Money 4 Nothing
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One deserves to be beaten till death, the other one deserves a fuckin medal. Just sayin'.

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 19:37 | 2712641 toomanyfakecons...
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Assange and Manning are men with nutsacks. Corzine is small potatoes. Pissing on the Constitution is a far greater crime and soon you'll see everyone from Obama, Ben, Timmy on down in handcuffs and orange jumpsuits. Don't listen to the fear-bot keyboard jockeys who would have you believe the military, police, federal marshalls, and millions of other oath takers are mindless zombies on the side of TPTB. They are not. Soon the oath keepers will separate themselves and distingusih themselves from the oath fakers. This separation and taking of sides is unavoidable. This has to happen... and has had to happen for a long time coming... http://tinyurl.com/cd5cyjo/

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 20:37 | 2712805 Walt D.
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What is strange is that the US did not request extradition from the UK. The standard is very loose - any conspiracy to commit conspiracy will do. People have been extradited to the US for supposed wrong doing in the UK that was not illegal in the UK - look up NatWest Five.

 

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 20:38 | 2712809 sessinpo
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This is actually an excellent thread that posts some serious consideration from the funny posts that followed.

Rule of Law and fairness (justice) is the question here, of which, doesn't seem to exist anymore. This should be of great concern for everyone, right, left, center or whatever because it means you have no protection and no rights. One can try to be prepared for economic problems, but it won't matter if no rule of law exist. All the PMs you hoard, all the guns and ammo, you store and even the food you have tucked away is no longer yours. You may think it is safely hidden, but its not. Nothing is safe or sacred including your life.

Fri, 08/17/2012 - 01:45 | 2713319 mharry
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Corzine should be in prison getting pounded in the butt right now!

Fri, 08/17/2012 - 03:36 | 2713416 YesWeKahn
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The real question is "why pays and who gets paid".

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