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Submitted by Jim Quinn from The Burning Platform

Bad Week For Freedom

 “We have two American flags always: one for the rich and one for the poor. When the rich fly it means that things are under control; when the poor fly it means danger, revolution, anarchy.”- Henry Miller


With each passing week it seems this country spirals further into the depths of a frightening dystopian fantasy reminiscent of Huxley and Orwell’s dark world of isolation, fear and government brutality portrayed in their masterpieces Brave New World and 1984. I keep speculating whether it’s me that’s crazy and not the things I’m witnessing on a daily basis. The President signs the National Defense Authorization Act, passed by an overwhelming majority of Congress, which allows the government to imprison American citizens indefinitely without charge. And there is barely a squeak from the docile masses as they are soothed by Obama promising to never use that part of the law. I bet you $10,000 a President will invoke that portion of the NDAA in the very near future.

Jon Corzine, a card carrying member of the ruling elite .01%, remains free to roam one of his five palatial estates after stealing $1.6 billion from the accounts of farmers, widows, and thousands of other “clients” of MF Global. In his spare time he raises money for Obama’s re-election campaign. The Federal government, Federal courts and Wall Street banking cabal have circled the wagons and declared the money just vaporized, even though it sits in Jamie Dimon’s vaults at J.P. Morgan. No one is being prosecuted for this deliberate thievery. The psychopathic Wall Street criminals have been getting away with murder for so long they act invulnerable to societal mores and scoff at our laws, rules and regulations. Those are for the 99%. When you control the politicians, regulators, courts, and mainstream media, it’s easy to get away with murder. The jackals and hyenas are laughing in their NYC penthouse suites as they continue to collect $20 million bonuses for a job well done.


After this past week I’m apoplectic with rage and fury as the rule of law has been discarded and the Constitution trampled upon by a wealthy connected oligarchy bent upon using their absolute power to further enrich themselves. The Wall Street banks that committed the largest financial crime in history, including: fraud in the inducement, forgery, fabricating documents, bribing rating agencies to rate toxic mortgages as AAA, selling fraudulent derivatives to customers, shorting the derivatives they sold to their customers, throwing millions of Americans out of their homes, charging inflated and bogus fees during the foreclosure process, and conducting a colossal cover-up, were slapped on the wrist and made to pay a miniscule $5 billion to the millions of victims of their crimes. Not one banker has been prosecuted. Not one person has gone to jail. Justice in this country is a putrid joke. There has been no outrage from the general public. The propaganda spewed by the corporate media instructs the masses to rejoice at this fair and just verdict. The truth is that 95% of the population didn’t know or didn’t care about the 50 state foreclosure-gate settlement. They were engrossed by the huge controversy over M.I.A. flipping the bird during the Super Bowl halftime show and whether Madonna was upset about the incident.

“Free” Healthcare

While this travesty of justice was playing out, we were treated to a glimpse into the future of healthcare in America administered by politicians and bureaucrats based upon vote count expediency. The government drones at DHHS mandated from on high that every woman in America would receive “free” contraceptives from their employers. Obama had made this decision and instructed his minions to implement his visionary dictate. The outrage and anger from religious groups and employers was instantaneous. Obama saw the 2012 election slipping away and reversed course within a day. He is quite the man of principle. His “solution” was to force insurance companies to provide “free” contraception to any employee of a religious employer that didn’t provide that coverage in their insurance plan. When I hear these sociopathic politicians use the word “free” when describing healthcare or any of their thousands of bankrupt government programs, I have an overpowering impulse to smash something. Insurance companies will not provide “free” contraceptives to women. Insurance premiums will rise for everyone.

Remember Obama’s assertion about his government takeover of healthcare:

“As a consequence of the Affordable Care Act, premiums are going to be lower than they would be otherwise; health care costs overall are going to be lower than they would be otherwise.”

The next government program that reduces costs, provides better service, and is more efficient than the private market will be the first government program to do so. Examples of government ineptitude, corruption and waste include: Social Security, Medicare, Welfare, the Energy Dept., the Education Dept., and the Dept. of War. Jonathan Gruber, MIT economist and chief architect of Obamacare and Romneycare, recently admitted the truth about Obamacare:

“After the application of tax subsidies, 59% of the individual market will experience an average premium increase of 31%. My findings reflect the high cost of folding state high risk pools into the [federal government's] exchange — without using the money the state was already spending to subsidize those high risk pools.”

Based on what Obamacare has done for the American people before its full implementation in 2014, you’ll be begging for a death panel to put you out of your misery. The following “free” healthcare services were required to be covered by insurance companies in 2010:

  • Cover preventive care without co-pays or deductibles.
  • Allow adult children to stay on parents’ policies until age 26.
  • Increase annual coverage limits.
  • Cover children without regard for preexisting conditions.

Obama’s promise that families would save $2,500 per year in the future might come up a tad short, as insurance premiums skyrocketed by 9% in 2011. Not only have premiums soared, but many companies have increased co-pays from $10 to $25 for doctor visits.

 Source: Kaiser Family Foundation

Only a deceitful government busybody do-gooder would actually argue that forcing insurance companies to cover millions more Americans and cover pre-existing conditions would result in lower costs for the average family. I wonder what will happen in 2014 when 30 million more Americans are guaranteed “free” healthcare under Obamacare. The saddest part of this oncoming train wreck is that millions of willfully ignorant people actually believed the blatant lies and false storyline fed to them by sociopathic politicians who desire to control every aspect of their lives. These people believe they know what is best for you. They believe they are smarter than you. They do not care what means are required to achieve their ends of absolute domination over your life. Personal freedom, individual liberty and a critical thinking populace are the antithesis to the desires of the governing elite.

Home Sweet Home

The central planners within government and inhabiting the Federal Reserve are never in doubt that their theories, programs, solutions, mandates and schemes will achieve their desired outcome. The trouble for the American people is the desired result is not designed or planned to actually benefit them. The psychopaths drawn to politics, regulatory agencies, and government bureaucracies have no remorse or qualms about lying, utilizing propaganda, and instilling fear to achieve the ends that endorse their self serving agenda. Every dime of government spending is seized from the people by force or created out of thin air by an all knowing self-proclaimed Great Depression expert named Ben Bernanke. This Ivy League professor who has spent his entire life in academia and government thinks he knows which levers to pull to revive an economy that he destroyed. His wisdom is borne out in his prescient assessment of the U.S. housing market as it was imploding:

“We’ve never had a decline in house prices on a nationwide basis. So, what I think what is more likely is that house prices will slow, maybe stabilize, might slow consumption spending a bit. I don’t think it’s gonna drive the economy too far from its full employment path, though.” – July 2005

“House prices have risen by nearly 25 percent over the past two years. Although speculative activity has increased in some areas, at a national level these price increases largely reflect strong economic fundamentals.” – October 2005

“Housing markets are cooling a bit. Our expectation is that the decline in activity or the slowing in activity will be moderate, that house prices will probably continue to rise.” – February 2006

“All that said, given the fundamental factors in place that should support the demand for housing, we believe the effect of the troubles in the subprime sector on the broader housing market will likely be limited, and we do not expect significant spillovers from the subprime market to the rest of the economy or to the financial system.  The vast majority of mortgages, including even subprime mortgages, continue to perform well.  Past gains in house prices have left most homeowners with significant amounts of home equity, and growth in jobs and incomes should help keep the financial obligations of most households manageable.” – May 2007

It should be clear to everyone that Ben is a goddamn genius. You can see why the mainstream corporate media hangs on his every utterance. He has accepted no responsibility for his part in producing an epic housing collapse and the subsequent recession that continues to this day. His lack of conscience comes in handy as he has destroyed the finances of millions of senior citizens dependent upon interest income to make ends meet. Having no guiding principles or ethics allows him to declare with a straight face that inflation is well contained as gas prices approach $4.00 per gallon, food prices surge 10%, and his inflationary policies contribute to revolutions around the globe.

Last week this sage spoke to the Home Builders Association and left no doubt that he has no interest in what is best for the American people. His economic remedies are the exact opposite of what is needed to cure the disease of a debt ravaged society. Dr. Bernake’s prescription is more debt fueled spending by consumers to refill the coffers on Wall Street. This is not surprising considering he is nothing but a puppet of Dimon, Pandit, Blankfein and the rest of the Wall Street cabal. His speech revealed his allegiances:

“One of the effects of declines in housing wealth is to reduce the ability and willingness of households to spend. It appears that recent declines in housing wealth may be reducing consumer spending between $200 billion and $375 billion per year. That reduction corresponds to lower living standards for many Americans. And, importantly, lower sales of goods and services also reduce the incentives of firms to invest and hire, thereby slowing the recovery. Low or negative equity creates additional problems for households. It reduces financial flexibility: Homeowners who are underwater on their mortgages cannot tap home equity to pay for emergency health expenses or their children’s college educations.”

Whenever I read Bernanke’s words, I’m reminded of George Orwell’s quote about intelligent people:

“There are some ideas so wrong that only a very intelligent person could believe in them.”

This is a man who believes he knows better than the market. He’s an economics professor that doesn’t believe in the law of supply and demand as taught in Econ 101. He thinks he can control home prices. He thinks he knows the ideal interest rate. He thinks he knows just how much money printing will revive the economy. He believes a healthy economy is driven by artificially propping up home prices, encouraging people to spend money they don’t have, recommending that homeowners borrow against their homes ($3 trillion borrowed and pissed away from 2003 through 2008), and forcing banks to make loans to subprime borrowers – again. His solution to the millions of bank owned homes is to use the taxpayer owned Fannie and Freddie to initiate bulk discount sales of these homes to his friends in the .01% so they can turn around and rent them to their former owners. I wish someone could explain to me how this helps the 99%. It is another backdoor bailout of Wall Street on the straining backs of the American taxpayer.

Obama’s housing solutions in 2009-2010 included multiple home buyer tax credits, loan modification programs, and a myriad of other Keynesian claptrap spending schemes. Bernanke supported all of those measures. They spent $30 billion of your tax dollars in an effort to artificially prop up home prices. Home prices have fallen 10% since they threw your money down the rat hole where all government programs reside, and they continue to fall. These central government planners don’t like to publicize the fact they continue to operate Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, and the FHA as a way to shift losses from Wall Street to Main Street. Fannie and Freddie have lost $160 billion of your tax dollars since 2008, but amazingly the losses don’t show up in the Federal budget because reality has no place in politics or governmental accounting. The FHA just announced they will require a taxpayer bailout for the first time in their 78 year existence, as they lose $5 billion of your money per year on behalf of the Wall Street banking cartel. The toxic mortgages that don’t reside on the books of Fannie, Freddie and the FHA are sitting on Ben’s balance sheet. They reside, hidden from public view, in the “Other Assets” section of the chart below. His tripling of the Federal Reserve balance sheet was done for one reason only – to save the Wall Street bankers, their shareholders, and their bondholders. His actions have in no way benefitted the American people or the American economy.


It is mind boggling the degree to which central planners like Bernanke, Geithner, Obama and Congress will inflict their vision of how the economy and world in general should operate upon the trusting masses. The American people want to believe their leaders are doing what is best for them. They like dwelling in a land of delusion, security and luxury, where government guarantees to protect them from: terrorists; Iranian invasion; saving for retirement; looking out for their own health; educating themselves; and accepting the consequences of living above their means. Their ability to distinguish between truth and propaganda has been thoroughly degraded by years of government proscribed education. We have chosen to become a knowingly ignorant nation of true believers. There is no time for critical thinking while we anticipate our next tweet about the death of drug addicted pop singer. We have been taught to love our servitude.

“…most men and women will grow up to love their servitude and will never dream of revolution.”Aldous Huxley – Brave New World

The fallacy of government protecting you, taking care of you and providing you “free” benefits is so ingrained in the American psyche that it is virtually impossible to voluntarily reverse the trend. The truth that Americans refuse to acknowledge is that nothing is free in this life. We are not entitled to own a home, a free education, free healthcare, or a comfy privileged existence. Everything government provides is taken by force from someone else. Everything government does has a cost. Americans have traded freedom and liberty for the appearance of safety and security.The cost is constant war, getting groped by TSA perverts, surveillance by government agencies, threat of imprisonment without charges and a $1 trillion price tag per year. The cost of “free” healthcare is mind numbingly ludicrous rules and regulations for doctors and patients, massive fraud, outrageously expensive procedures and medications, and a $100 trillion unfunded liability left for future generations. The ultimate cost of an overbearing, all controlling government will be economic collapse and revolution.

Who Decides?

“Those who vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything.” – Joseph Stalin

The concluding act during this bad week for freedom occurred on Saturday in the great state of Maine. When it became clear that Ron Paul was going to win the Maine caucuses, the GOP establishment, that has already anointed Mitt Romney the Republican nominee, decided the people of Maine would be told who won. Using the excuse of an impending snowstorm (less than 1 inch), the powers that be cancelled the caucuses in Washington County where a large contingent of youthful Ron Paul supporters dominated. The Girl Scouts didn’t cancel their event in the same county that day. The men who cancelled the caucus are strong Romney supporters. This was a blatant Stalinist act of voter disenfranchisement. The GOP leaders declared those votes would not count in the totals. Despite this despicable act of rigging an election, Ron Paul doubled his vote percentage from 2008. His message of freedom, liberty, non-interventionism, sound money and self-reliance is reverberating across the land among young people who have not been programmed by the governing elite and the corporate mass media. The establishment will do everything in their power, including vote fraud, to prevent Ron Paul’s anti-establishment message from being heard.

A small delegation of authoritative, rich men continues to pull the strings in this country. The examples I’ve sited in the last week prove we are moving ever more rapidly towards what Friedrich Hayek described as a‘dictatorship of the proletariat’. The actions of the governing class point to no other conclusion as described by Simon Black:

  • Hundreds of thousands of mortgage contracts abrogated by the Federal government;
  • Suspension of gun rights by several local governments;
  • The continued criminalization of protest and free assembly;
  • Increased surveillance and police state tactics;
  • Authorization of military force and detention against the citizens;
  • Seizing and/or voiding pension systems into which workers have paid lifelong contributions;
  • Rejection of long-standing senior debt positions in favor of labor unions;
  • Executive and police agencies ruling by regulation and policy, not by legislative process;

When you pose the possibility of a dictatorship in America, the defender of freedom and democracy, old timers scoff and laugh off the possibility. We are the bright shining light on the mountaintop – that preemptively invades other countries; murders suspected foes with predator drones; imprisons and tortures foreigners in secret prisons; and plans to have 30,000 spy drones patrolling the skies over U.S. cities within the next few years. The government now has the authority to imprison U.S. citizens without cause for as long as they see fit. The government plans to lock down and control the internet. How could we possibly descend toward dictatorial rule? The conditions are perfect for sociopaths dwelling in government bureaucracies to make their move, as elucidated by Doug Casey:

“You may be thinking that what happened in places like Nazi Germany, the Soviet Union, Mao’s China, Pol Pot’s Cambodia and scores of other countries in recent history could not, for some reason, happen in the US. Actually, there’s no reason it won’t at this point. All the institutions that made America exceptional – including a belief in capitalism, individualism, self-reliance and the restraints of the Constitution – are now only historical artifacts.On the other hand, the distribution of sociopaths is completely uniform across both space and time. Per capita, there were no more evil people in Stalin’s Russia, Hitler’s Germany, Mao’s China, Amin’s Uganda, Ceausescu’s Romania or Pol Pot’s Cambodia than there are today in the US. All you need is favorable conditions for them to bloom, much as mushrooms do after a rainstorm.”- Casey Report

Call me a raging optimist, but I see positive signs that an irate tireless minority of Americans are coming to their senses and preparing for a showdown with the ruling oligarchy. The tremendous support for Ron Paul’s message among those under the age of 30 is inspiring. His devoted followers have incredible enthusiasm and will be a force to be reckoned with. The upcoming election will be won or lost based upon whether Ron Paul decides to run as a 3rd Party candidate, spreading his inspirational message. The Occupy Movement is also being driven by people under the age of 30. Their courage and audacity in standing up to brutal establishment military tactics and focusing the attention of the world on the greed, avarice and corruption rampant throughout our economic and political system has given me hope that the good guys can win. Every day the Millenial generation gains strength as the power of the older generations slowly wanes.

The internet has proven to be the best weapon in the fight against the governing elite. It offers people the freedom to ignore government sponsored propaganda being blasted by the corporate media. Critical thinkers can connect with other critical thinkers, while seeking the truth and spreading ideas. You can examine websites like Zero Hedge, Jesse’s Café Americain, Of Two Minds, and Mish to comprehend what is really happening in your world. The tumult and outrage exhibited by millions when the despotic Congressional jackals attempted to pass SOPA and PIPA was inspirational. The people’s voice was heard loud and clear. The politicians ruling over our lives have no guiding principles or moral code. They peddle their votes to the highest bidder. They conduct polls to determine what their constituents want to hear and then shockingly tailor a message that voters find to be exactly what they think. These sociopaths only respond to one thing – being exposed as liars and thieves. When they are confronted by an irate citizenry they scatter like roaches in a West Philly row house kitchen when you turn the light on. Yes votes on SOPA turned to No votes quicker than the Federal government can spend a billion of your tax dollars (10 hours). Obama showed how principled his positions are by backtracking on his “free” contraception mandate in less than 24 hours. If we speak loud enough they will listen, or else.

The “or else” is reflected in the chart below showing gun purchases over the last ten years. Millions of good law abiding Americans are armed. The accelerating trend is a hopeful sign that we will not allow a small contingent of corrupt politicians backed by shadowy rich men (22 men have contributed 67% of all the Super Pac money in the GOP primaries), hiding from public view, to treat this country as their personal playground.          

It was a bad week for freedom loving people, but I believe there are enough patriots left in this country to change our course. We are being buried under a blizzard of lies on a daily basis. We have a choice. We can support the existing corrupt crony capitalist establishment (Obama & Romney) or we can declare war on lies, deceit and misinformation by rallying behind the only person who would truly attempt to reverse decades of corruption, sleaze, incompetence, bloat, debt accumulation, and a warped version of free market capitalism – Ron Paul. He is the only public figure willing to level with the American people and tell them the truth. Will we let the concept of truth fade out of the world? The choice is ours. 

“In our age there is no such thing as ‘keeping out of politics.’ All issues are political issues, and politics itself is a mass of lies, evasions, folly, hatred and schizophrenia. The very concept of objective truth is fading out of the world. Lies will pass into history.” –   George Orwell


“Truth is treason in an empire of lies.”Ron Paul


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Wed, 02/15/2012 - 16:08 | 2163165 GeneMarchbanks
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Freedom huh? Someone needs to give that a try somewhere...

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 16:16 | 2163212 Gully Foyle
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Hey now let's check in with an old popular favorite

Washington’s Insouciance Has No Rival

Is Obama a hypocrite or merely insouciant? Or is he an idiot?

According to news reports Obama’s White House meeting on Valentine’s day with China’s Vice President, Xi Jinping, provided an opportunity for Obama to raise “a sensitive human rights issue with the Chinese leader-in-waiting.” The brave and forthright Obama didn’t let etiquette or decorum get in his way. Afterwards, Obama declared that Washington would “continue to emphasize what we believe is the importance of realizing the aspirations and rights of all people.”

Think about that for a minute. Washington is now in the second decade of murdering Muslim men, women, and children in six countries. Washington is so concerned with human rights that it drops bombs on schools, hospitals, weddings and funerals, all in order to uphold the human rights of Muslim people. You see, bombing liberates Muslim women from having to wear the burka and from male domination.

One hundred thousand, or one million, dead Iraqis, four million displaced Iraqis, a country with destroyed infrastructure, and entire cities, such as Fallujah, bombed and burnt with white phosphorus into cinders is the proper way to show concern for human rights.

Ditto for Afghanistan. And Libya.

In Pakistan, Yemen, and Somalia Washington’s drones bring human rights to the people.

Abu Ghraib, Guantanamo, and secret CIA prison sites are other places to which Washington brings human rights. Obama, who has the power to murder American citizens without due process of law, is too powerless to close Guantanamo Prison.

He is powerless to prevent himself from supplying Israel with weapons with which to murder Palestinians and Lebanese citizens to whom Obama brings human rights by vetoing every UN resolution passed against Israel for its crimes against humanity.

Instead of following Washington’s human rights lead, the evil Chinese invest in other countries, buy things from them, and sell them goods.

Has any foreign dignitary ever raised “a sensitive human rights issue” with Obama or his predecessor? How is the world so deranged that Washington can murder innocents for years on end and still profess to be the world’s defender of human rights?

How many people has China bombed, droned, and sanctioned into non-existence in the 21st century?

Will Syria and Iran be the next victims of Washington’s concern for human rights?

Nothing better illustrates the total unreality of life in the West than the fact that the entire Western world did not break out in riotous laughter over Obama’s expression of his human rights concern over China’s behavior.

Washington’s concern with human rights does not extend as far as airport security where little girls and grandmothers are sexually groped. Antiwar activists have their homes invaded, their personal possessions carried off, and a grand jury is summoned to frame them up on some terrorist charge. US soldier Bradley Manning is held for two years in violation of the US Constitution while the human rights government concocts fabricated charges to punish him for revealing a US war crime. WikiLeaks’ Julian Assange is harassed endlessly with the goal of bringing him into the human rights clutches of Washington. Critics of Washington’s inhumane policies are monitored and spied upon.

Washington is the worst violator of human rights in our era, and Washington has only begun.

Who will liberate Americans from Washington’s clutches?

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 16:24 | 2163240 Clueless Economist
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Hold it pal, Obama is a Nobel Peace Prize Winner.  When you win one, then you will have a right to spout off.

"The only solution to the debt problem, is more debt"

P. Krugman

Fellow Nobel Prize Winner and all around douchebag

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 16:33 | 2163285 resurger
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Wed, 02/15/2012 - 17:15 | 2163504 Abitdodgie
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I am sorry to say that I feel that people on here are wrong saying that Americans want freedom and liberty , Americans don't . Do not listen to what people say on here it is rubbish ,America votes for what it want's and what we have now is what the majority wants . Democracy is the majority and this is what everyone voted for and supports , sorry to say people on here are the minority. America has what it deserves, to be led by our great president and to have a wonderfull congress passing new laws to keep us safe . Let the Government look after you that is what the majority wants.  ( does anyone know how to work for the Government as a troll ,Im practicing)

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 20:04 | 2164107 Money 4 Nothing
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They.. Usurp to get what they want, and no, I don't need my fuckin government laws to keep me safe, I'm a critical thinker. And stop saying that word Democracy.. Do you even know what that means? It means two wolves and a lamb voting on what's for dinner, were a Republic and don't forget that. Were not a democracy, Greece used to be a democracy.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 20:41 | 2164209 superflyguy
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I guess you're one of those who still believes that the constitution protects you?

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 20:51 | 2164231 Money 4 Nothing
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Yea, sad to say, I'm one of the 18 Million in the USA that thinks that, actually, it's my right to bear arms.

What protects you? An IPhone apps? Like a good neighbor State Farm is there type thing?

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 20:38 | 2164200 superflyguy
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You're 100% right and people giving you the negatives are probably the ones whose ego you hurt.

Only a tiny minority can open up their mind and see the truth (and a lot are on this board). Majority, including most of my friends (which I in the past tried to reason with) are what you described. It is sad but they're blind and *refuse* to see. Years and years of conditioning and reading of propaganda did the irreversable damage. They're programmed.

And the sad part is that they will likely support the tyrant too. Why? Because when they tell you the evil ___insert_nation_here___ are out to get you, they'll do anything needed to stay "secure".

That's 1984 scenario pasted into real life and even though most of my friends read the book and saw the movies, they still cannot see it.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 21:58 | 2164437 Totentänzerlied
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If they do not know they are imprisoned they will not seek to be free. Convince them that serfdom is freedom and they will never know they are not free. The rest must be kept too busy just trying to scrape by,

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 16:24 | 2163242 resurger
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When we kill the MSM (T.V) you will have a deal Gully!

great post +1

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 16:39 | 2163314 AnAnonymous
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One cornerstone of US citizenism is hijacking humanity.

That story of human rights is just a story to advance US citizens' best interests.

Funnily enough, as US citizens are bullies, and that bullies never factor their own acts of aggression, only the retaliaton to them, it leads to a huge blindspot in terms of human rights violation.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 16:56 | 2163391 JohnnyBriefcase
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If you're gonna troll at least have the courtesy to not be fucking boring!


Wed, 02/15/2012 - 17:04 | 2163429 Poor Grogman
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No mention of "Blobbing up" disappointing...
Blobbing up is one of the most insidious and underhand methods of the citizenism analysis community....

Thu, 02/16/2012 - 04:42 | 2165155 Moe Howard
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Blobbing up roadside shitting spitting US China citizenism.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 16:40 | 2163320 Zero Govt
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Gully Foyle  -  when it comes to hypocracy please don't leave the British out next time.

Not a week goes by without the Bent Broadcasting Corporation (BBC) showing us how 'humane' and 'liberating' the illegal occupation and totally without reason war in Afghanistan is

..and how British taxpayers money is pissed away on building schools and medical aid out there. afghan people must see the irony in pissing all over their country and murdering people who are merely defending it from a deranged Western power while doing a PR job teaching their children and handing out bandaids

We are 'led' by the truly fuking insane Parasite Club ...trying to make sense out of it is beyond futile

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 17:05 | 2163441 AmCockerSpaniel
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"How many people has China bombed, droned, and sanctioned into non-existence in the 21st century?"  Who knows the answer to that question? I'm on your side with this issue, but China does enforce it's laws in a very pubic way. Do we enforce our laws? YES; Sometimes if your in the lower 99%. The males today have no guts. We teach them from a very young age not to fight. They grow up thinking if they get fighting mad, some one will take away their MTV. They even try to look like girls. Be careful what we ask for.

Thu, 02/16/2012 - 11:05 | 2165704 BigJim
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How many people has China bombed, droned, and sanctioned into non-existence in the 21st century?

Well, not to excuse the US's flagrant acts of international terrorism, but China's treatment of Tibetans and Uighurs is nothing for them to be proud of.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 16:34 | 2163279 SMG
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Sic Semper Tyrannis!

Death to the Oligarchy's ruling families!

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 16:42 | 2163329 chipshot
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yes. have stated the obvious. now what are you going to do? the PTB are daring you to do something"  just try and stop us"  their begging you for a fight... BO is their puppet to placate your numbness and uncertainty..."there there you feel better now? heres yur gubmint cheese. Only the" 7.62 list" will solve it now. you and yours are wholly screwed otherwise.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 17:12 | 2163491 AmCockerSpaniel
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Who many do you think know what you are referring too (7.62)?

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 17:20 | 2163525 Dr. Richard Head
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If you know what 7.62 is referring might be a terrorist.

Come to think of it, a good Jeff Foxworthy impression of You Might be a Terrorist would be a good skit for SNL, if that show were still funny and all.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 17:33 | 2163587 VelvetHog
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You forgot "X 39"

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 16:51 | 2163373 JacksNight
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I hope everyone is participating in Paul's phone from home program. It's been a major factor this campaign.

Also, search your local metup to connect with others.  Finally, donate to the money bomb if you haven't today.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 19:31 | 2164016 Dugald
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Do you not think that in pushing Ron Paul to the top you will likely be signing his death warrant?

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 21:15 | 2164300 Deo vindice
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I am almost positive that Dr. Paul considered that possibility. At 76 years of age, he may even feel that he is at that time of life when he has nothing to lose and everything to gain in the cause of constitutional freedom for the citizens of his country.

Thu, 02/16/2012 - 04:44 | 2165157 Moe Howard
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On a long enough timeline.......

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 19:18 | 2163640 Don Birnam
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These truths are bitter things indeed. Constructing the road to serfdom is the primary "shovel-ready" project embraced and methodically engaged by both parties; no cost too resources to be denied. Quite literally, for the Citizen, a road to nowhere.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 16:08 | 2163167 trav7777
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bad, bitchez

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 16:10 | 2163169 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Brave New World was literary garbage.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 16:10 | 2163178 Mercury
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Wed, 02/15/2012 - 18:46 | 2163881 FrankDrakman
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Doubtless.. or perhaps he was supposed to be a Beta but there was some alcohol in his B-S.

In a 'net filled with profanity and "leet" memes, I thank you for an accurate and funny literary allusion.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 16:38 | 2163310 weenus
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Idiotic comment.   Probably an Ayn Rand fan.  Now that is literary garbage.  Orwell was a superstar, one of the greatest writers of the 20th century, the writer equivalent of Joe Strummer.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 16:53 | 2163378 marathonman
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Aldous Huxley wrote Brave New World.  And Orwell was a socialist.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 17:29 | 2163554 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Wed, 02/15/2012 - 17:01 | 2163415 The4thStooge
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"Orwell was a superstar,"  Um, Orwell wrote 1984, it was Huxley that wrote Brave New World. And OT, but Trav, watching you get absolutely destroyed by tmo last night in the Off The Grid thread was fuckin hillarious. Thank you for that entertainment.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 17:32 | 2163577 FrankThinkTank
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Too many words for your taste? Orwell was a superstar at describing the perils (present and future) of his own ideology, nothing more.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 16:42 | 2163331 SheepDog-One
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You'd know, Mr Lennon, you dickhead.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 17:31 | 2163572 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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If you can't handle a punch to your chin I think you are in the wrong club.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 16:59 | 2163407 Nobody For President
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LH, much to my surprise I downed you on this one, cause usually I'm in agreement with you. Not this time.

I know the intellectual argument about Huxley and BNW, but what the hell IS good, if not great, literature? Huxley tapped a very significant vein of western culture - that we would be destroyed, not by a malignant government - aka 1984 - but by basically not giving a shit - of being sated with bread and circuses.

So where are we today? Look at all the meaningless sound and fury over (drum roll) Super bowl half-time ads? American Idols. TV in general. Two-party politics. Mathematical and economic ignorance that is appalling or mind-boggling or just depressing on part of most voters/americans. 

This is how liberty dies:


Brave New World said something very important about our culture. 

I call that worthwhile literature.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 17:38 | 2163597 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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I am glad to discuss this, and I value your opinion.  It is not the concepts of Huxley that bore me, as he should know the ins and outs of societal manipulation as it was his family that created the construct.  What bores me is his writing.  It is bland, and the plot to Brave New World goes nowhere. 

It is like a monologue I gave once that was hammered by the director.  He said my acting was boring.  I said the character is boring.  He said, "Then make him interesting."

Huxley could have added flavour to his book, but it had no spice and no substence.  Brave New World is a bland tale, however astute as to what the future held.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 19:05 | 2163943 The Alarmist
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I'm with you, LH! I can't wait for this NWO to get cracking on going Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451 on all these trolls who have no original thoughts and can only endlessly quote the same crap from Huxley, Orwell & Rand.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 19:51 | 2164071 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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I don't know why everyone is lumping my opinion for Huxley in with Orwell and Rand (although I find Rand's fiction equally as boring).

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 19:11 | 2163960 FrankDrakman
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I respectfully disagree. I went to a high school in the 1970's that still believed literature had a purpose. As a result, in one term in 2nd form, we read three dystopias: Nineteeneightyfour, Brave New World, and Lord of the Flies. (Then I read Animal Farm on my own.) This is guaranteed to knock any reasonably intelligent teenage boy for six. Just the idea that the authorities we had so long listened to might not be telling us the truth, that there might be hidden forces shaping society for their benefit without our knowledge, that we might be programmed to accept massive restrictions on our lives in return for material comforts - this affected me greatly, and having become even minimally aware, I have spent the last four decades watching western society become more socially effete while more officially brutal, more individually liberal while more officially fascist, more individually concerned about political correctness while less officially concerned about political accountability, all themes I find in BNW.  I'd say Huxley hit the nail very close to the head.  Modern Library's editors picked BNW as the fifth best novel written in the 20th century, so I'm not alone in this opinion.

On a side note, all of the authors above are British. Where are the American dystopias? Vonnegut is too surreal, Heller too bizarre, Updike has no meaning outside of a 400-mile radius of Greenwich, CT, and Roth is too concerned about his penis and his religion. Thompson's Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas is a brilliant start, but it doesn't sustain itself beyond a series of vignettes.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 20:05 | 2164110 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Huxley's BNW bored me.  The insight was interesting, but he wrote blandly.  The prose was lacking and the story went nowhere. 

It was the elite plan that was told to him by roundtable goups over a fire.  It was interesting because it was true!  I don't discount that.  But the story was written poorly.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 20:52 | 2164242 FrankDrakman
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I can't argue about the quality of the prose; I liked it, you don't, and since you don't provide specifics, I'll let it lie.

But how can you say the "story goes nowhere"? I haven't read the book is over 40 years, yet I still recall the plot - in a highly controlled world, a "savage" is imported from the outer world, who seems to be the offspring of a member of the upper class and a woman of lower - but not lowest - class, who neglected her birth control regime. Upon re-entering "civilized" society, the woman finds herself ostracized and retreats into the state's legal and controlled narcotic, Soma, until she OD's. Meanwhile, John, initially fascinated by material splendour and efficiency, slowly learns there is no freedom, that, save for a select few, everyone's life is programmed, and, unless you're an Alpha, you have no control over your life. Faced with an uncomfortable dilemma of living in a world without freedom, or returning to the primitive world he came from, John goes between the horns and kills himself.

If that's "going nowhere", please give me an example of a novel that does.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 21:10 | 2164291 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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The story has interesting concepts:  A world controlled with no choice that closely resembles our own today, with legal drugs more deadly than the illegal ones, "online " dating serices, etc.  Fine, but is it amazing that Huxley, by having his ears open around the roundtable, found out that the "elite" had a plan for the Brave New World?  He had an inside scoop, if you will.

But I won't judge him.  If my family was on the inside I would write a story about it too.  But even though Huxley put all the pieces on the table he didn't find an interesting narative.  I don't care about his dispair in finding out he was a bastard.  So he is living in a centrally planned world?  He was a boring character in that world.

As far as the story goes, so what?  His parents came from two seperate worlds, and he had to wrecken with that.  The story is more of a soap opera than anything alse.

It's not like Huxley is alone with his work in terms of creating an interesting premise and not hitting all the runners home.  There are plenty of authors who have had cool premises where the story plotted along.  Fight Club, for example, is a work with many brilliant parts.  Is it the author's best work?  Best known, yes, but Chuck is a much better writer now than he was then, and the screenplay brought more out than the novel did.

It was Huxley's first work anyhow, wasn't it?  So what should we expect of him, anyway?

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 20:47 | 2164222 blunderdog
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Palahniuk's there.  If you read Fight Club, you might check out Diary.

Stephenson's pretty good, too.  Snow Crash, Anathem, Diamond Age.

The American "dystopians" of the past century?  I'd cite Burroughs, Rand, and Pynchon as a start...styles are a bit different, but the message is the same.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 17:04 | 2163426 Bam_Man
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Wed, 02/15/2012 - 16:09 | 2163171 Theta_Burn
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He has my vote...

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 16:17 | 2163173 Sudden Debt
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99% of the people believe what is printed on paper. So we better start defineing "patriots"

Who fights and dies for the country?
Who profits from it?

A: Not the rich...
B: the rich....

So the common man is fighting for the rich. So they can get a education or get a minimum wage risking their lives.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 16:41 | 2163322 kito
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so a poor guy, part of the "99 percent", is a good guy, until he works to create a business that allows him to make a handsome earning, which now puts him in the "1 percent", which now makes him a bad guy? 

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 17:04 | 2163432 InconvenientCou...
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false dichotomy. Nice recitation though.

A poor man with no soul is less dangerous than a rich man with no soul.

Pooling resources you can't use is a religion in the west. That's why this cannibalistic, rotten organism is dying. Live it up.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 17:29 | 2163560 kito
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so a poor guy with a soul, works to make himself a nice amount of change, and now hes a guy with no soul? lets say mechanical engineer with a soul works to get himself a license. he opens a business. does great work. expands his business. hires other engineers. makes $300,000 running an engineering firm. he has no soul? wtf are you talking about? 

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 17:23 | 2163535 Dr. Richard Head
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A poor guy that creates a business that fails and is allowed a handsome earning off the backs of the those who had nothing to do with the failure makes him a bad guy.

I expect less from you Kito. 

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 18:03 | 2163724 kito
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which brings me back to my original point about classifying all those that have money as the same....preposterous............

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 18:42 | 2163859 acetinker
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This engineer you speak of; Must be a civil engineer, huh?  In this day and time the only engineers knockin' down 3 big ones are wealthy in cheese only- gubmint cheese.  How proud you[r engineer] must be, having found a more lucrative form of welfare than most.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 19:08 | 2163952 The Alarmist
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Remember the line from Patton about the hero ?

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 16:09 | 2163175 Mercury
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Why should a regularly occuring, non-critical expense be covered by insurance anyway?

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 16:11 | 2163177 Temporalist
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“Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it’s realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy.”
Ron Paul

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 17:52 | 2163671 ChacoFunFact
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yeah but the gold standard is no great shake either

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 16:11 | 2163183 Corn1945
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Health care costs are going to skyrocket. Medicare (and now Medicaid) is going to completely detonate the Federal budget.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 16:31 | 2163272 10mm
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The lucky ones go quick.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 17:03 | 2163428 Nobody For President
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'...going to...' ?


Wed, 02/15/2012 - 17:11 | 2163486 10mm
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Die Fast.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 16:12 | 2163186 RSloane
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"Truth is treason in an empire of lies.”Ron Paul

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 16:31 | 2163275 carbonmutant
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Our problem is that we no longer have a "Free Press".

The MSM has become a tool of the current administration.

Any attempt by the MSM to report the numbers and stories we see daily on ZH would be construed by the WH as a threat to our fragile economy.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 16:40 | 2163319 Vince Clortho
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The MSM has been a tool of the ruling class going back to at least 1915.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 17:00 | 2163414 fuu
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Thu, 02/16/2012 - 09:29 | 2164602 tarsubil
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Wed, 02/15/2012 - 16:12 | 2163188 resurger
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'Suspension of gun rights by several local governments"

You can take my wife, my kids , my gold and cash.

but you can never take my Gun!

much respect JQ

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 16:13 | 2163189 SheepDog-One
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Freedom trades very poorly on the bond markets.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 16:23 | 2163238 Sudden Debt
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Freedom is standing in line at the soupkitchens and tries to get a place in the shelters.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 16:15 | 2163192 Cognitive Dissonance
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It was a good week for burning down the illusion, the false promise, that the belief in 'freedom', that we are free, somehow strengthens you and me. No sane person would willingly endure the slow drip of (take your pick of adjectives such as financial, political, social) abuse we regularly subject ourselves to. So often we do so in the name, the false promise, of 'freedom'.

Nothing is more enslaving than the belief that we are free. We are not and often we are our own jailors.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 16:16 | 2163208 SheepDog-One
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Well, real 'freedom' is very scary to most people, with real freedom they wouldnt have any govt checks coming in, no food stamps, unemployment checks to live on, no BRIDGE cards, etc. 

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 16:32 | 2163276 CH1
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Best passage in the article:

The institutions that made America exceptional – a belief in capitalism, individualism, self-reliance and the restraints of the Constitution – are now only historical artifacts. On the other hand, the distribution of sociopaths is completely uniform across both space and time. Per capita, there were no more evil people in Stalin’s Russia, Hitler’s Germany and Mao’s China than there are today in the US. All you need is favorable conditions for them to bloom.

True words.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 16:44 | 2163343 Cognitive Dissonance
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Per capita, there were no more evil people in Stalin’s Russia, Hitler’s Germany and Mao’s China than there are today in the US. All you need is favorable conditions for them to bloom.

Sort of like how certain mushrooms bloom and prosper in a freshly tossed bed of shit.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 21:07 | 2164281 CH1
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Yeah, kind of like that. :(

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 16:56 | 2163394 SheepDog-One
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Well, sorry to anyone who downvoted that, I guess theyre just scared. 'Freedom' in this country would now really mean 'death' for at least half the population who would be without any govt offices to go to for free medicines, food, and shelter. Just a fact.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 17:09 | 2163471 Silver Dreamer
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Most people are willing farm animals.  They do not want the responsibility that comes along with liberty.  Slavery is much easier for them.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 16:14 | 2163193 mirac
Wed, 02/15/2012 - 16:39 | 2163293 10mm
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I could not be a parent in todays shit hole,id go fuckin bat shit.In regards to lunch being inspected.

Thu, 02/16/2012 - 00:11 | 2164823 FreudianSlip
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The Kingdom of Norway is a Unitary Constitutional Monarchy with a parlimentary government.  Norway's 1814 Constitution was inspired by the US Declaration of Independence and the French Revolution.

Does this mean a benevolent (Viking) King is a better way?  Perhaps we can get King Harald V of Norway to intervene on behalf of US Citizens.  Viking helmets anyone?  I'm ready.

I can think of a few Viking funerals that would be enjoyable to watch.  Ships on fire being pushed out to sea.  Ahhhhh, a beautiful sight to behold.  (Actually, it may take a cruise ship to hold them all.)



Wed, 02/15/2012 - 16:14 | 2163199 spastic_colon
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I agree with all of what you're saying.....I like Ron Paul....I also believe Cicero would have made a decent pragmatist leader....unfortunately Mark Anthony eventually caught up to him and we all know how that ended......Ron may have to be wheeled in inside of some modern trojan horse to get past all the barriers to his entry.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 16:15 | 2163205 papaswamp
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What? no mention of the the 4 yr old who had her lunch box (with a turkey and cheese sandwich, banana, potato chips, and apple juice) and had it replaced by chicken nuggets. This was done by USDA inspectors....and mom got a bill for the lunch.

When we get to this's time to call it quits.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 16:20 | 2163225 Temporalist
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I think they should start policing the fatass govt workers' lunches first and dock their salary $1 for every calorie over the daily recommended allotment and double that if they sit on their asses all day and triple that if they work for the TSA, DHS, FEMA, etc.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 19:15 | 2163974 The Alarmist
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You have a good point ... When I was military they had this thing called a Weight Control Program and it was used to drum non-compliant types out of the service in short order ... That needs to be extended to all the other agencies so that their front-line types are fit for the job and present a proper image for John Q Public, i.e. so they are harassed and impoverished at least a little bit as much as they torment the rest of us.

Thu, 02/16/2012 - 05:03 | 2165166 Moe Howard
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The Army weight control program is based on appearance, not performance. A soldier can max the APFT, quailify expert at the range on his weapon, as an NCO receive all fact based excellence ratings on his NCO-ER, and still be drummed out of the service for not meeting the body fat regulations. A great way to get out of the Army fast is to get on the weight control program, drop to the proper weight immediatley, and be disenrolled from the program. Then get overweight again as fast as possible. They have to put you out, and it is not a bad discharge, how could it be, it is based on APPEARANCE. You don't LOOK like a fit solider.

Warfighting is the last thing the idiots running the Army care about. First is color [also ethinc group], second is gender, and now it will be if you are a homosexual based on the pairs of lesbians I saw shopping together in the Walmart next to Fort Knox. The number one reason given by soldiers for leaving the service was POOR, INCOMPETENT LEADERSHIP, not war, not deployments, but decades of Affirmative Action promotion in the enlisted ranks, and Corporate Yes Men in the the commissoned ranks.

When you make single mothers a prority in the US Army, you have decided to destroy the institution that pre-dates the nation.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 16:20 | 2163228 RSloane
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Turkey sandwiches are too healthy. Chicken nuggets are needed to keep our kids sedated with fats and salt and help them blend in with our ever-increasing obese kids population.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 16:57 | 2163401 SheepDog-One
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My DOGS wont even eat Chicken McNuggets...thats a true story. One day when I had them all with me and stopped to get some for a snack for them, they all looked at me like I was crazy trying to give them a Chicken Nugget. 

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 16:23 | 2163237 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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She's a terrist.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 17:12 | 2163490 Silver Dreamer
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People long ago gave up the duty to educate their children to the government, so why would anyone be surprised when the government demands they control what children eat too?

Thu, 02/16/2012 - 13:29 | 2166303 FrY10cK
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"I read it on the internet so it must be true," eh?

Fact check that story. It's been debunked.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 16:18 | 2163221 prains
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It's going to take a lot more hungry people before any kind of change happens in oligarkistan

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 16:19 | 2163222 LongSoupLine
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Until "bad" goes mainstream (timeline unknown) all will remain the same.  Heard this morning that O's "approval rating" back up to 50%.  The average voting American is a brainwashed moron that's hopped-up on Starbucks and iPad apps.  Their personal calendars merely reflect when the next Dancing with the Stars and Jersey Shore episodes are on.  Face it, we here at ZH are the "informed minority"...and it's a VERY small minority. 

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 16:20 | 2163227 tim73
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Fuck you Yanks. You are pathetic bunch of losers! "Oh yeah, ma gold and shotgun gonna make all the difference". Fucking retarded copy of a copy of a real man, European.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 16:43 | 2163338 10mm
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Hey euro trash,get back in your fucking hole.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 16:43 | 2163340 Grey-Ghost
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I am curious now - Yank is a retarded copy of a copy of a real man -- but who's that copy in between Retards and Ubermenchs?

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 16:48 | 2163358 Hippocratic Oaf
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Got an idea.....why don't you spin that shotgun around, place the barrel 'tween your teeth (if you have any) and pull the trigger?


Wed, 02/15/2012 - 17:04 | 2163392 10mm
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Wed, 02/15/2012 - 16:51 | 2163370 battlestargalactica
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How's Russia's dick taste these days? Like oil and gas, I've heard.

Thu, 02/16/2012 - 00:18 | 2164834 FreudianSlip
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@Tim73.......Bet you carry one of those man purses as you rush off to your mindless government job to nowhere and live in a tiny dank smelly place with few windows.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 16:20 | 2163229 Hobbleknee
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Wow!  This article pretty much sums up everything.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 16:21 | 2163230 Village Smithy
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The fire has been lain, but what will ignite the tinder?

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 16:41 | 2163327 n8dawg84
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What, indeed?  Peaceful protests are squashed and police arrest any dissenters.  Has anyone heard how Scott Olsen is recovering?

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 16:21 | 2163231 Shizzmoney
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Only a deceitful government busybody do-gooder would actually argue that forcing insurance companies to cover millions more Americans and cover pre-existing conditions would result in lower costs for the average family.

Here in MA, premiums have gone up 6%-25% every year we've had "RomneyCare" (or what I call, "HeritageCare", since the Heritage Foundation were the ones who wrote the bill).

On top of that, employers can wait 6 months until having to actually cover you.  And the insurance companies, when they DO raise premiums, usually announce this.....4:30pm on a Friday afternoon.

Yeah, we don't live in fascism. 

Bad Week for Freedom?  More like Bad Decade.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 17:06 | 2163444 Northeaster
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A little caveat most Massachusetts residents don't get, our automatic 2.5% property tax increase every year. Municipalities don't even have to vote for it, it just is, by law:

Of course, Beacon Hill can do whatever the fuck it wants in this one-Party, completely corrupt Gerrymandered State without recourse.

Rule of Law indeed.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 16:22 | 2163236 carbonmutant
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“In our age there is no such thing as ‘keeping out of politics.’ All issues are political issues, and politics itself is a mass of lies, evasions, folly, hatred and schizophrenia....” –   George Orwell

Sounds like the definition of Marketing to me...

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 16:27 | 2163254 Cognitive Dissonance
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Hey. Someone's gotta sell the lie......right?

At least it's honest work. :>)

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 17:06 | 2163447 carbonmutant
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Right. It's only propaganda if you don't believe in the product. ;-)

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 16:59 | 2163245 ArrestBobRubin
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If you say so then.... but ya can't blame Vlad Putin.  All Pootsie did was to ruin the Rothschilds plan to pull a Libya, Part II on Syria and the Syrian people. To put 'em in the debt slave column. Like you and I. And I mean, what crazy person would possibly want to resist that?

Luckily for free people everywhere, Vlad said No Go to this latest bit of "democratization" by mass death. And, Pootsie's advancement of the South Stream energy pipeline has also pretty well destroyed the bankster's "Nabucco" brain fart, I mean "competitor". Ha! The neocons don't even talk about it anymore. Checkmate: Putin wins again.

So it certainly was a nice week for Vlady. He does the world proud now by foiling the insane, warmongering schemes of the real terrorists. Who cares if the craven pressitutes in Western "media" tell me otherwise. After all, if Pootsie is at all "bad", what praytell does that make Mr. Owebombya? Or to make the point even more starkly: what does it make the Serial War Criminal Benjamin Netanyahu?

And what, they want me all worked up over Vlad? Really?? You'd think the... ahem... "newsmedia" would not be so stupid and full of chutzpah to go tugging on that string. And you'd be wrong...

Putin Trumps Zionist Plan For Syria

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 16:25 | 2163247 death_to_fed_tyranny
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God How I Pray for a solar EMP that crashes the whole world. The survivors will be the Patriots who are ready for action! LIBERTY OR DEATH!~

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 16:28 | 2163260 Mtn_Wolf
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Wed, 02/15/2012 - 16:35 | 2163268 AlaricBalth
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Edward Bernays said "If we understand the mechanisms and motives of the group mind, it is now possible to control and regiment the masses according to our will without their knowing it... In almost every act of our daily lives, whether in the sphere of politics or business, in our social conduct or our ethical thinking, we are dominated by the relatively small number of persons ... who understand the mental processes and social patterns of the masses. It is they who pull the wires which control the public mind."

Until the people realize they are being manipulated, and identify those who are truly in control, they will never be free. They are too easily distracted by the latest television craze or sporting event. They are placated as long as the government keeps feeding them, like a lion in a cage. Depressed and half-drugged, the people cannot comprehend the machinations which occur that keeps the new aristocracy in power. Some have awakened, but have yet to realize the full potential for change we can make if we act. The chance to reverse course is slowly but surely slipping away.  As was said in movie I have seen a few times, The Boondock Saints: 

  "The question is, do you possess the constitution, the depth of faith, to go as far as is needed?"



Wed, 02/15/2012 - 16:37 | 2163271 ugmug
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Politicians and the media are nothing more than 'snake charmers' nowadays.

Ron Paul will never win any support until he dons a turban and plays a melodious hypnotic tune on his teleprompter like Obama.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 16:32 | 2163282 VelvetHog
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I hope to see 1,000,000 in the streets come spring time.  This simply has to end.  The sooner the people stand up and say they have had enough the less chance there is that violence will erupt.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 16:33 | 2163287 carbonmutant
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Democracy isn't Free. You have to fight for it.

And under the current administration that's not politically correct.

Besides it's messy...

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 16:48 | 2163354 10mm
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To maintain a Republic isn't free.And that comes from the end of a barrel eventually.Protests are useless and i really wish it would cease.They laugh at protesters and maintain agenda.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 16:35 | 2163298 tempo
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Appeals for freedom are so alluring but ignore the ugly facts that worldwide labor rates are declining below $25/day and no company will ever establish manufacturing in the highest cost/regulated countries like the USA/EU. So domestic peace will be bought with entitlements financed by deficits as the alternatives will result in tanks in the street. Freedom will be lost regardless of who is President, the only question is who will rule!! Facts are very ugly.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 16:38 | 2163308 AldoHux_IV
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It sure has been a bad week for freedom, but as Jack Burton says: "may the wings of liberty never lose a feather".

Word of the week: apoplectic. Thanks

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 16:38 | 2163311 Benjamin Glutton
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soon enough TPTB will turn on each other...again.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 16:39 | 2163312 wretch
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Great.  So we elect an Ayn Randian with answers, let him have a crack at things for a while.  Take cover.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 16:38 | 2163313 blu
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The Ron Paul run at the nomination is toast. Whatever the reason or means, he was pushed out. Blame who you want all you want to. It's over.

Okay, what's Plan B? Because either Obama or Romney is going to push the oligarch agenda full-throttle. Nothing will change, from now until 4 years from now. And maybe, not even 4 years from then.

Except that the world will have completely fallen apart during that time.

I've said many time, these are self-limiting problems. The oligarchs are fighting a losing battle against peak oil, over population and the collapse of globalization. They will try and vacuum up as much money as they can before the door closes on them, but close it will.

They have a few years to accomplish their designs, maybe not even that. Then, this problem will resolve itself. I recommend we each start looking past this election cycle to the coming shit-storm and think about what we want to see rise from the ashes of history; what each of us wants to cast away, and what we intend to fight to sustain.

For fight you will. Like it or not, we are all men of war now.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 16:57 | 2163398 mayhem_korner
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I recommend we each start looking past this election cycle to the coming s***-storm and think about what we want to see rise from the ashes of history


That is the only useful thing to do.  Trying to break the current situation is a waste of energy unless there is a structured plan to replace it.  That's why I'm critical of the so-called "occupyers" - most of 'em just want to end the current situation, but have no sense of what they think would be a useful replacement.  That type of poor planning leads to Egypt.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 17:08 | 2163451 blu
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The Occupiers are simply frustrated people acting on their frustration. They have no plan because no plan can be formulated. They know this, it sucks, they hate it, they are making random noise for lack of any other outlet.

Good on them.

We will each now have to "occupy" something in order to take that something forward with us. Some will occupy a bit of land and defend it with their own hands. Some will occupy the higher moral ground (and perhaps hang defending it). Others will occupy a quiet corner of human decency and simply wait it out.

What we grab and keep, we will have to hold at a price. This will become a struggle both within the mind and outside it, mental and physical. Between individuals and between people and their government. Between conflicting desires to do something anything and to simply survive by doing nothing at all. Conflict between the need to keep body and soul together and the deep-seated drive to create from these tattered remnants of Democracy a new nation and a new world within which all people can hope to attain simply -- justice.

Occupy justice, if you can. Future generations will look back and recall the ones who stood their ground and occupied justice.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 18:45 | 2163874 mayhem_korner
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What we grab and keep, we will have to hold at a price. This will become a struggle...


The notion that it "will become a struggle" sounds like something emergent and in the future, but what I have grabbed and kept has always been held at a price, and it is attacked every minute of every day.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 16:41 | 2163326 dolly madison
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I totally agree that the world is a crazy sci fi dream these days.  Perhaps it is just that we have the internet to keep us informed about our government these days, and before we only had the propaganda.

I don't believe the solution is any one leader though.  I am so glad that Ron Paul is out there talking about ending warring and ending the Fed, but I think the solution needs to come from the bottom, not the top this time.

It is time for us to add the missing checks and balances to this country.  It is the absence of these powers that has gotten us to where we are now.  Those checks and balances are participatory democracy.  We need the power to call any law up for a referendum vote, and we need the power to recall bought politicians.  We need more power to tell our representatives NO.

Human nature is such that when the few rule the many they will be vulnerable to bribery and threats.  That is why we need to be able to veto what they do when it is obviously bought, and we need to be able to recall them when they are obviously bought.

For those that think the people will only vote themselves lots of stuff when they get participatory democracy, you just need to look at participatory democracy in the few places that have added it to their governments, Switzerland and California.  You will see it is the representatives that give, and the people that take government power away.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 18:22 | 2163791 DoChenRollingBearing
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Wed, 02/15/2012 - 19:20 | 2163985 The Alarmist
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And, in California, the Judiciary that gives it right back.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 23:49 | 2164752 dolly madison
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And, in California, the Judiciary that gives it right back.


That's checks and balances for you. 

Great things have not been reversed in California like medical marijuana and prop 13, which is a proposition which keeps property taxes from rising too quickly if property prices rise quickly.  I am also very hopeful that legalization of marijuana will come from the people of California in the next election.  I think we are ready to stop the war on drugs now.  Time will tell.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 16:43 | 2163337 zerotohero
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Choices are becoming as rare as real tits.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 16:57 | 2163399 battlestargalactica
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REAL choices are becoming as rare as real tits.


Fixed it for you.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 16:44 | 2163341 Lady Heather...UNCLE
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USA is a fascist, police state...end of story

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 16:48 | 2163356 Vince Clortho
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I believe the ppt has decided today will not be a triple digit day.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 16:49 | 2163362 working class dog
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people are having to go fasteer and faster to keep up with the exopnential debt bomb growth, inflation is caused by the fed and no one else. Scrap the fed, and put in place a new value system for stocks and companies, NO MORE GROWTH AT ANY COST.

THERE IS NOT ENOUGH TO GO AROUND, too many people, not enough stuff.


Attorney generals listen up make the banks and hedge funds be resonsible for there shit show of  a mortgage fraud.


Wed, 02/15/2012 - 16:54 | 2163387 Vince Clortho
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Agree with your message, but the Attorney Generals are working for the same bosses as the politicians and the judges.  If anyone was going to do anything, it would have happened long before now.

Sadly, complete systemic crash appears to be the most likely way out of this horror show.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 16:54 | 2163386 mayhem_korner
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You lost me when you referenced the Occupy Movement as being helpful to the cause of liberty.  The occupyers are a hodge-podge, including anarchists, socialists, and folks that would be described as anything but self-reliant.  Just because they wave the banner of anti-establishment doesn't mean they are for self-reliance, capitalism, or the Constitution.  Just sayin...

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 16:54 | 2163388 dcb
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OK, the getting upset at the doctor co pay is silly, all the "poor" people I know have cable TV, cell phone (with internet), and not sure about what's at home. I know a number of the elderly don't have home computers.

when the visit costs much less than cell, cable each month there should be no complaints. it's perscription costs, and some others.

I'm an md, we treat elderly in our practice. we loose money on each of them, and their medical issues are more complex. those with non government programs allow us to afford to treat them.


there are lots of ways to reduce costs, mainly pharma and insurance companies kill them. hospitals are run like crap, and there is a huge stupid system that the state looks at paper work, and checking out boxes instead of outcome studies.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 16:57 | 2163396 t0mmyBerg
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The moment I keep remembering is shortly after the Rick Santorum rant about the mortgage plans of the "president" came out when they were going to help all those in trouble at the expense of everyone else, Bernanke was asked about it in an interview or maybe a post FOMC conference or something.  He looked genuinely dumbstruck.  He replied that it made no sense to be upset about helping people who stretched for houses they couldnt afford.  If we let them go down, he said, it would negatively impact everyone.  He really did not understand that by bailing everyone out you are incentivizing that behavior.  As Bove recently said (paraphrasing), only idiots now would pay their mortgage, ie play by the rules.  Bernanke does not understand moral hazard.  They wink at it, include a reference to it in their remarks and then completely ignore it.  It is the gangrene that spreads to the rest of the body.  Bernanke and the rest care not, or just do not see it.  Amazing.  And I do like the part in here where the author references that Bernanke is the Man even though he was a prime mover in creating the destruction in the first place.  I have been awestruck at how the Fed can be invested with ever more authority and responsibility when it was largely their post dotcom interest rate policy that caused things to get out of control to begin with.  Simply amazing.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 16:59 | 2163409 orangedrinkandchips
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I couldnt agree more and am pissed off as much as teh next person (maybe). LIke the tolls in Illinois going up 100% but it's just me who cares.


SLAVERY lasted in the US for hundreds of years even though people knew it was a horrific thing.....BUT, IT'S KING OF THE HILL and once you are up there you dont come down with a "pretty please".


Like slavery and kudos to John Brown and his sons, but it lasted forever it seemed and NOT JACK SHIT REALLY HAS CHANGED...THE COLOR OF THE SKIN, PERHAPS, BUT WE ARE STILL SLAVES.


NOT A DAMN THING WILL CHANGE...I have to just let it go....never ever change...


And Jon Corzine is from my neck of the woods originally...central illinois.....7th level of hell awaits him.....Daunte, you listening?

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 17:05 | 2163412 Grey-Ghost
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"Will we let the concept of truth fade out of the world?"

Come on; get serious, the very “concept of truth” in this unholy land is based on wicked interpretation of the same.

This is the nation that enslaved the black people AND committed a genocide on red people AND thrown an A-bomb on yellow people AND is now killing brown people all that while enslaving the ALL people with their debt, destruction and deaths as only imports coming from this fascist monstrosity.

And even now, when TSA fascists prod their wives and children’s genitals, when FED is openly stealing from them and when their country had been killing the people in six countries some 5,000 ++ miles away, some 65% of people support extra judiciary KILLINGS of their own citizens if the Big Good Fuerher says they deserve to die.

The Declaration of Independence tells a fable about certain unalienable Rights that among these are LIFE but this nation had never shrunk away from killing the same life in the name of the most current fairytale.

And you expect this nation to look at the mirror and see the truth about itself and change? Get serious – the morally degenerate nation would never, ever wake up and face the truth for the truth is – with every penny they pay in taxes, with every vote they cast for either Despicable or Repulsive party “candidate” they gladly condone their fascist, murderous regime, because they, with 6,000 ++ Nuclear weapons in 125++ countries all over the world are "threatened" by mutilated children’s tears and angry grannies’ curses from some far away, ravaged land.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 17:01 | 2163416 OutLookingIn
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There is no more grey area left.

The issue stands in stark contrast.

Either send Ron Paul to the white house,


Send the country to hell!

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 17:05 | 2163445 Vince Clortho
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I see there are still numerous posters who don't understand who is calling the shots in the United States.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 17:06 | 2163457 americanspirit
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I realize that this is presumptuous in the extreme, but I would modify the George Orwell quote "Lies will pass into history" to "Lies will become history".

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 17:28 | 2163556 VelvetHog
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I think that's what he's saying.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 17:08 | 2163470 EBR MOD 0
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we have too way many sheeple OT with their noses buried in a ipod, ipad whatever to get off their A$$ and do something, hell anything. The EE now has its sights set on what true patriots may still be around and the rest are either dumbed down or like SD1 says on the govt dole. They will be heard from as time goes along and for good reasons, more help, more assistance, more handouts, more favors, more... A tipping point is coming and it ain't gonna be pretty, see ya in the FEMA camp.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 17:09 | 2163472 Alcoholic Nativ...
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No such thing as freedom. 

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 18:28 | 2163477 GeorgeHayduke
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Music for our ever-growing slavery.

The Housemartins: Freedom 

Paul Heaton and the boys were way ahead of the curve. Even more so in their band The Beautiful South.

Beautiful South: Have You Ever Been Away?

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