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Guest Post: Be Honest CNBC - You Are Biased Against Ron Paul

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Submitted by Brandon Smith from Alt Market

Be Honest CNBC-You Are Biased Against Ron Paul

Those of us who have supported Ron Paul since his presidential run in 2008 (and some who supported him long before that) have come to expect an astonishing array of mainstream media tricks, lies, and censorship when it comes to the “journalistic” examination of the good doctor. This doesn’t mean, however, that we have ever or will ever come to ACCEPT this consistent trend of deception and disinformation as a forgone conclusion of our political lives. We will never throw up our hands and walk away from the mess the MSM has deliberately created, because that is exactly what they would like us to do; give up, shut up, go home, vote for Romney (an establishment crony with the creepy grin of a pedophile), and watch him lose to Obama (yet another establishment crony) in 2012.

With this stated up front, it was brought to my attention that CNBC was running a poll asking readers who they thought won the recent Republican Presidential Debates in Michigan. Now, as in many polls in 2008, the name “Ron Paul” has been rising to the top of the charts in 2011 despite all efforts by media lapdogs to dissuade the public from even considering such a candidate. CNBC did not fail to play its roll this time around either. Ron Paul won by a substantial margin, and of course, their response was to take the poll down! Here was the explanation given by CNBC Managing Editor and all around bottom feeder, Allen Wastler:

Gamed Poll...So We Took It Down

We had a poll up from our Republican Presidential Debate asking readers who they thought won. One candidate was leading by such a margin that it became obvious the polling wasn't so much a reading of our audience, but of the Internet prowess of this particular candidate's political organization. We have therefore taken the poll down.

Yes, we've gone through this exercise before.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/45233756/

Wastler then provides a link to a rather patronizing statement he made back in 2007 to explain why CNBC dumped polling results then as well:

http://www.cnbc.com/id/21257762/?An_Open_Letter_to_the_Ron_Paul_Faithful

First of all, let’s be serious, folks! Regardless of what you might feel personally about Ron Paul or his political position, it has become painfully obvious to even the most oblivious subsections of the American populace that the MSM, from supposed “right wing” outlets like FOX, to supposed “left wing” outlets like CNBC, have gone WAY out of their way to ridicule, suppress, or completely ignore him.

Now, you really need to ask yourself, why is that?

If Ron Paul is such a “fringe” candidate with “no chance” of winning, then why all the trickery and subversion? If his political methodologies are so ridiculous or out of sync with the American people, then why not plaster his face on every TV screen in the country and let him destroy his own career? Why hide him from public view?

The answer is simple; because he IS a threat. His position is one of government transparency, limited power, and financial independence. He predicted the credit crisis and the mortgage bubble implosion long before they ever occurred. The guy wants to shut down the Federal Reserve and the cartoonish brute squad otherwise known as the IRS. He wants to end the costly and fraudulent wars in the Middle East and bring the troops home (really bring them home, not make fake statements about bringing them home and then keep them on the ground for another few years). Of course the MSM, a corporately controlled monopolistic sham, is working overtime to keep Paul down!

Think about it. Sit back and consider. If Ron Paul was actually allowed to stand on the same stage as Barack Obama in a fair debate, there would be no half hearted girly-slap pansy sparring going on as there would be in a match between Obama and Romney. Ron Paul would destroy Obama! It would be a massacre of historic proportions! The establishment, which represents a minority of elitists in this country and not the citizenry in any capacity, will not let this happen.

Allen Wastler would call the above statement “conspiracy theory”. All I have to say to Wastler is; prove me wrong! Give Ron Paul fair coverage. Leave your own polls to represent the actual results regardless of whether you like the outcome. But first, answer me these questions, Allen:

1) If your poll was “gamed”, or in other words “hacked”, then I imagine that you and CNBC have some kind of proof of this. Please, do show it to us, so we can better understand your suppression of the poll results. I continuously hear from the MSM that Ron Paul supporters are all master hackers, and that there are only a dozen of us huddled around basement computers posing as millions (and I thought they didn’t believe in conspiracies…), but I have yet to see any concrete evidence to support this notion. Do you have any, Allen?

2) If CNBC’s poll is so easily tampered with, then why continue to run it at all?

3) If Mitt Romney had won the poll by a landslide, would CNBC have suppressed the results then? Or is it only farfetched when Ron Paul prevails in the final calculations? (This is a bit of a rhetorical question, because we all know Mr. Wastler would have danced a jig and sung the glory of Romney over Paul if the roles had been reversed).

4) Why is it that whenever Ron Paul wins a poll, MSM pundits claim the results are unscientific, or that they really don’t represent the true position of the general public? Why is it that a Romney or Cain win brings resounding words of vindication for the nature of the democratic process?

5) What margin of success does CNBC consider “realistic” for a presidential candidate? I mean, is it really necessary for you to punish Ron Paul for being a popular candidate, or to punish his supporters for being well organized and showing up for the vote? Do you not see the half-assed absurdity of your claim that Ron Paul won by “too much”?

6) Isn’t it conceivable that Ron Paul is doing well in the polls because his ideas and views are shared by many Americans? Who are you to claim this is not possible, Mr. Allen?

7) Do you really believe you and CNBC will not be held accountable for misinforming the American people and hiding information pertinent to their political knowledge? The last time I checked, CNBC’s viewership has been in pitiful decline since at least 2009.

8) When are you going to man up, Allen, and admit that you dumped the poll because you are biased against Ron Paul? It’s not as if it is a big secret. Hiding behind superficial excuses such as “hackers” and “poll gaming” is at bottom pretty cowardly. Why not embrace your blatant disapproval of Paul and the considerable movement of Americans surrounding him so that we can have a real discussion, instead of putting on a pretentiously counterfeit smile and talking down your nose at us? Wouldn’t that be more fun?

Let’s bring some honesty, and perhaps finally some true competition, back to the presidential race, and say what is actually on our minds for once. This goes for the staff of CNBC! If Allen Wastler or any other MSM lackey wants to bash Ron Paul, then he should do it openly as a private citizen, not use the CNBC media apparatus as a Hearst-like yellow journalism weapon for misinforming the public, or for indirectly slandering a candidate or his supporters. This should not be a problem for him at all, unless, of course, the corporate owners of CNBC over at G&E play a much greater role in the actions of their news subsidiary than is readily admitted. Then, Allen Wastler’s apprehension in laying out the truth plainly would make a little more sense…

 

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Thu, 11/10/2011 - 09:29 | 1865431 bernorange
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All that hate's gonna burn you up, kid. /Red Dawn

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 11:30 | 1865543 RemiG2010
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Ok -54 and counting! You passed my test! You people are LEGIT!

Although, I do not agree with every idea Paul stands for but nobody's perfect, not even Sir Lord Dick Vader Cheney himself! 

;) 

 

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 10:17 | 1865674 bxy
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fucking loser!

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 10:28 | 1865739 Gavrikon
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C'mon folks, Remi is running a reverse poll.  Down Arrow for RP!!!

Good one, RG.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 09:14 | 1865367 lolmao500
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Seriously, who thought of putting that POS Jim Cramer on the question panel? The guy should be in jail, not asking question at presidential candidates.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 09:31 | 1865441 bernorange
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He's such a caricature.  How does anyone take him seriously?  How is he still breathing after Jon Stewart skewered his ass?

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 10:17 | 1865628 oddjob
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Seriously, how can anybody watch Jon Stewart or CNBC. Pablum for retards, enjoy!

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 11:22 | 1865975 Shadowsil
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I actually liked John stewart show, Its funny. John stewart also was one of the guys who talked about how Ron Paul was getting hosed by the media and couldnt get a break from the establishment. He was in favour of Rp at the time.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 09:14 | 1865368 Conrad Murray
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Fuck CNBC. They deserve to hang with the banksters.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 09:18 | 1865381 eigenvalue
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Hang the men and leave all the hot babes to me...;-)

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 09:25 | 1865411 Josh Randall
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They are the Banksters - look at whom received TARP money

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 09:16 | 1865372 eigenvalue
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Ron Paul won't become POTUS next year. Americans are too stupid to elect the right president. I think this will be Ron's last attempt. He is already 76. 

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 09:18 | 1865385 Conrad Murray
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If he doesn't make it, he needs to go apeshit in Congress until they take him away. Bring back cane beatings. Push some of those crooks off balconies. Start an online campaign asking all veterans, all supporters in general, to come occupy the Capitol and White House with him.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 09:21 | 1865396 eigenvalue
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You are calling for a coup?

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 09:33 | 1865436 Conrad Murray
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I'm merely saying the time for pretending this dog and pony show is anything but has passed. The power lies with the people, not the state. We The People are the sovereigns.

when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security - Declaration of Independence

 

We declare our right on this earth...to be a human being, to be respected as a human being, to be given the rights of a human being in this society, on this earth, in this day, which we intend to bring into existence by any means necessary - X

 

War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself - Mill

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 10:12 | 1865510 FubarNation
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 A military coup is the only thing that may save the Republic.  'Democracy' doesn't seem to be working.

No one ever mentions it but sure as shit there are many in the Armed Services and Joint Chiefs of Staff that are talking about it behind closed doors.

Military coup.  Nationalize oil, banks, airlines etc.  Reset.  It may be our only hope.

 

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 11:27 | 1865994 BigJim
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And then watch the 'transitional' military junta rule for 30+ years...

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 12:57 | 1866433 RiverRoad
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A military coup could be problematic.  But nationalizing the banks sounds good especially in light of the fact that they have put the country in the toilet.  Public schools, public banks....sounds OK to me.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 11:46 | 1866086 Dr. Acula
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>'Democracy' doesn't seem to be working

Did you expect it to work?

Have you read Hans-Hermann Hoppe's "Democracy: The God That Failed"?

 

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 09:32 | 1865445 HelluvaEngineer
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He's preparing the world for his son's run for president.  His son has already met with more success, since he managed to get elected to the Senate instead of the HR.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 09:44 | 1865502 LawsofPhysics
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Yes, besides Ron is already the chairman of the most important committe in the house and could put an end to all the shannanagins going on at the Fed.  Ron isn't doing his fucking job because he is getting more milage out of letting TPTB hang themselves.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 09:58 | 1865578 Moe Howard
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I firmly believe this. I had it confirmed when Rand Paul stated he did not talk to his father at all about who would run in 2012.

Rand Paul will run in 2016 unless they kill him first. Praise Aqua Budda.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 10:04 | 1865609 eigenvalue
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Perhaps it's too late to have the right president. We should have had a president like Ron in 1980s. The US was in much better shape back then and Ron was only in his 50s. 

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 10:21 | 1865702 FEDbuster
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I was one of the few who voted for him in 1988.  You had the chance.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 10:36 | 1865773 Fred C Dobbs
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I did too.  

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 11:56 | 1866153 optimator
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This is starting to remind me of how they trashed Barry Goldwater in 1964.  Even history is not kind to Goldwater, all they do is quote the "Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice" line from his acceptance speech, never this line:

"Where examples of morality should be set, the opposite is seen. Small men, seeking great wealth or power, have too often and too long turned even the highest levels of public service into mere personal opportunity." (from Barry Goldwater's 1964 acceptance speech.)

 

 

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 13:02 | 1866466 RiverRoad
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The Ron we did have in the 80's had a bunch of banksters in his kitchen cabinet who started this whole leverage ball rolling.  If America wakes up, it won't be too late to have the right president.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 11:21 | 1865968 tsx500
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just one little problem...it'll be too late then. It's either Ron Paul 2012 or we're Sanduskied.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 09:34 | 1865457 bernorange
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It's up to us to make sure whoever is elected gets assimilated into Ron's philosophy.  Have you (general you to anyone reading - not specific to eigenvalue) contacted your Congresscritters about HR 1098?

 

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 09:17 | 1865377 LeBalance
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This sentence fragment:

"...vote for Romney (an establishment crony with the creepy grin of a pedophile)..."

detracts heavy from your message, yourself, and due to association Ron Paul.

 

Deduction?

Brandon Smith of Alt Market works for MSM?

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 10:10 | 1865645 Shell Game
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Now let's try a bit larger fragment:

..because that is exactly what they would like us to do; give up, shut up, go home, vote for Romney (an establishment crony with the creepy grin of a pedophile)

Deduction?

Brandon is spot on, you wanted the sentence to be taken out of context for what ever reason.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 09:18 | 1865383 jimijon
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No sex, drugs or rock n roll scandals to blackmail the good doctor.

Can't have that. And with all the video phones out there, another lone gunmen scenario isn't going to work to well.

I don't even think the doctor would go into a hot tub.

cheers

bartercalcpro is here! Look for it at the apple store!

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 09:18 | 1865384 end da fed
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I wish ANONYMOUS would do a take down of CNBC!

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 09:27 | 1865420 Josh Randall
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I wish Anonymous would Occupy the Fed --- thats why I don't tust theses people. Student Loans and high pay for Wall St King Pins aren't the real culprits and those people should know that. 

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 15:59 | 1867299 XitSam
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FOMC minutes, gold swap agreements, NYFED inventory, ...

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 09:20 | 1865390 Tense INDIAN
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i can take all the negatives from u guys ...but i have to tell u this...RON PAUL is increasingly looking like a CONTROLLED OPPOSITION.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 09:23 | 1865403 Ratscam
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please elaborate

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 09:56 | 1865563 Moe Howard
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He told Perry to get rid of 5 agencies not 3, both verbally and with the 5 finger hand gesture. He was helping the Bilderburger boy wonder.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 09:57 | 1865572 PaperBear
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If you don't think that privately owned central banks stealing the wealth of the general public is not the entire A-Z of our problems, please tell ZHers what you think is ?

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 09:57 | 1865574 PaperBear
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If you don't think that privately owned central banks stealing the wealth of the general public is not the entire A-Z of our problems, please tell ZHers what you think is ?

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 09:21 | 1865392 LawsofPhysics
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The more people who speak the truth are supressed and ridiculed by MSM shills, the more apparent the truth will become.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 09:20 | 1865394 Ratscam
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Yes Ron!

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 09:24 | 1865395 HD
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NOTHING in politics is about honesty or fairness and expecting it to be a legitimate exercise in democracy will slowly drive you mad.

Doesn't matter who you get to "vote" in - the end result will be largely the same. TPTB always get what they want at any expense. If someone with integrity actually won - they would likely have an accident or "health issue" before too long.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 13:08 | 1866487 RiverRoad
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Not if they run with a real nothing burger as VP which is usually the case.  It's called "life insurance".

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 09:23 | 1865401 somethingelse
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Okay, riddle me this....how can this vast internet political organization of elite hackers for Ron Paul enable him to keep winning in various state straw polls......are they mind-hacking the electorate too???

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 09:24 | 1865407 JoBob
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CNBC is playing "Hide the Candidate"....

Time to pull their broadcast license!

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 09:24 | 1865408 razorthin
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I hope he goes independent and shuts the whole farce down.  It is amazing that he insists on being in this field of yahoos.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 09:27 | 1865422 end da fed
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yes, he has the patience of a saint. i would have lost my shit on those numbnuts a loooonnnggg time ago

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 13:12 | 1866505 RiverRoad
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McCain was in the press yesterday saying he sees the emergence of a third party.  Says it should be called the "Fed Up Party".  Wonder what he's up to with that?

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 09:25 | 1865413 orangedrinkandchips
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"you want the truth?"

"YOU CANT HANDLE THE TRUTH!"

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 09:25 | 1865415 Gringo Viejo
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I'm sorry but voting changes nothing. Anything or anyone that threatens the status quo will either be discredited or eliminated.

Sad fact but....fact nonetheless.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 09:27 | 1865416 PaperBear
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Hey establishment, you're not talking to one of the sheeple when you talk a typical Ron Paul supporter.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 09:26 | 1865417 aVian
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if ron is about to win...something bad will happen...hope it doesnt

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 09:31 | 1865442 end da fed
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yes, i worry about that too and i pray for RP's safety

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 10:09 | 1865639 Lets_Eat_Ben
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If something happens to Ron Paul that has even the faintest whif of foul play, my rage against this machine will finally be let loose.  AND IT WILL FEEL SOOOOOOOO GOOD!

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 09:27 | 1865424 HurricaneSeason
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Ron Paul wants to make things tough now so it will all be better 10 or 20 years down the road. I have complete confidence that government can make things tough now, but no confidence that it can make things any better 10,20 or 100 years down the road. $1 trillion in cuts the first year. They should do that, but it's better that they just keep running up the credit card as much as possible until total collapse so we can start over. There isn't any way to tweak it anymore. Vote for the grandest idiot out there in each election to get it over with sooner.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 09:29 | 1865430 alien-IQ
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If you are seeking an explanation for this behavior...look no further than this:

"It is the absolute right of the State to supervise the formation of public opinion."
Josph Goebbels

"Those who cast the votes decide nothing; those who count the votes decide everything."
Joseph Stalin

"Our government will soon become what it is already a long way toward becoming, an elective dictatorship."
Senator J. William Fulbright

"The media serve the interests of state and corporate power, which are closely interlinked, framing their reporting and analysis in a manner supportive of established privilege and limiting debate and discussion accordingly."
Noam Chomsky

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 13:20 | 1866527 RiverRoad
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And Mme. De Farge knit sweaters for every poor soul in Paris.  Lots of them.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 09:29 | 1865433 Nate H
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how many people voted in that poll?  (hundreds or tens of thousands)?  do we know?

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 10:17 | 1865660 Whoa Dammit
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When I voted it was only a few thousand-about 2300 for Ron Paul, and mid 1000s for Cain and Romney. This was about an hour after the debate.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 09:30 | 1865435 PaperBear
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The dam is breaking, can you hear the whoosh of the tsunami that is going to sweep away the crony establishment ?

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 09:33 | 1865437 jayman21
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Always an interesting trend, lets hope google stays true to the "do no evil" with the trends part of the website.

 

Looks like CAIN has had his 5 waves up as well and now correcting.  Time to short CAIN if you are long.

 

http://www.google.com/trends?q=ron+paul%2Crick+perry%2Cmitt+romney%2Cher...

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 10:55 | 1865863 JoBob
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From the Google trends, it seems that Texans think Perry is the best candidate. I always gave Texans more credit than that.

 

Now, what was that number three...?

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 09:31 | 1865439 longonSpam
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I iz a commie pinko pig socialist liberal big government big welfare state firebagger & I registered R to vote Paul in the primary. I think libertarianism sucks big time on an epic scale but he is the closest thing to an honest broker. Huntsman almost actually said Glass-Steagall but didn't last nite & I don't trust him as far as I can throw him not to be in China's back pocket. Fuck the machine.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 09:31 | 1865440 TheAkashicRecord
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I have a Ron Paul for President shirt I bought in 2007.  

I do think, much as he makes a distinction between capitalism and crony capitalism, that he should make a distinction between good regulation and bad regulation.  Good regulation, in the context of the finance industry for example, should shape the behavior of the banks so that they don't become systemically dangerous.  Bad regulation simply increases the cost of doing business.  

"Good regulation" in my book would include things like requiring banks to scale up tier-one capital requirements as banks grow in market share.  This would discourage banks from growing "too big."  I also think the GLB should be repealed, put back the firewall between commercial and investment banking.

"Bad regulation" is either pointless or includes conflicts of interest.  For example, the OCC, which is one of the institutions that supposedly regulates banks, is funded by the banks themselves rather than being appropriated funding from Congress.  

The regulatory environment should be shaped in such a way where small and medium size players do not share the same burden as large players.  This could be done by making sure that regulations are not imposed on a nominal basis, but as a percentage of some measure, such as assets.

The more systemic risk banks pose to the system the more tightly they should be regulated.  The quantification of "systemic risk" would have to be discerned by looking at what financial metrics, historically, are good indicators of bank failure.    

The implicit taxpayer guaruntee of the financial system must also be done away with, but that could be done in a verbal manner by a President who is actually a leader.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 11:04 | 1865482 jayman21
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From The Black Swan - One should be able to shoot an elephant which is one of the largest parts of the ecosystem and the effect should be zero.  This is what good regulation looks like.  This is why nature has much better designs than economists from Harvard, University of Chicago, or The PRIVATE FEDERAL RESERVE.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 12:12 | 1866170 Dr. Acula
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>"Good regulation" in my book blah blah blah

What a surprise. Yet another person fancies himself to be a socialist central planner who is entitled to use other people's money. There are no limits to the bureaucratic experiments one can try out when one is insulated from market disciplines, i.e. financial losses.

 

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 16:24 | 1867353 jayman21
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What I take from TheAkashicRecord is if Ron Paul would go into this, it would probably help his chances.  He makes some great suggestions.

If you are a Ron Paul supporter, I think it is pretty clear where one stands on regulations in general. 

BTW - TheAkashicRecord reminded me of the elephant story in the black swan in a previous post a few days back.

 

+1 for TheAkashicRecord

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 09:32 | 1865443 Ignatius J Reilly
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The American voters get the President they deserve. not the one they need.

 

At this point, I hope Ron has a serious war chest of money and is biding his time to start running commericials in an attempt to wake up the American people.  I hope he is successful.  I hope he gets the nomination.  I hope he wins.  But let's face it, it's an uphill battle just to that point, then the hill really gets steep.

 

I might as well hope that rainbows shoot out my ass and materialize gold in my living room.

 

Still hoping on all that though!

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 09:33 | 1865448 semperfi
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Didn't Ron say the other day that the way to deal with Iran is to befriend them?  Is this what he really said?

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 09:38 | 1865479 JPM Hater001
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No.  What he said is we need to stop making ourselves an enemy of their people.  As we hurt the people it empowers the governments to fight for them-ish...

Anyway.  Not friend.  Just not an enemy either.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 09:50 | 1865533 semperfi
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Good - I didn't think he was insane.  About the only thing I used to disagree with him on was his stance that we had to get out of Afghan & Iraq.  But I've changed my thinking on that one and now agree with Ron.  How many countries our are troops in?  Over 100?  And please tell me how the Roman Empire fared?  How'd that work out for them?  This is going to end badly for us, and Ron, even if he gets elected, won't be powerful enough to thwart The Syndicate and pull back our military.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 09:55 | 1865555 i_fly_me
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You may not agree with that particular stance but, it is constitutional and, you must realize it is one the few options left we can afford.  We are no longer dealing from a position of strength financially.

 

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 15:24 | 1867125 Temporalist
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It was a suggestion, based on the Blowback that the CIA and 911 Commission Report detail as a primary reason that terrorists attack the US, to do the exact opposite of the currect policy and practice of occupying sovereign countries with U.S. military because the U.S. knows what's best for everyone.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 09:34 | 1865464 catch edge ghost
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Foom FOOM! You can ignore reality but not the consequence of ignoring reality, Bro'.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 09:36 | 1865468 jjsilver
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The fed controls cnbc as they control all other tv,radio,newspapers and book publishing and most importantly the voting process.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 09:37 | 1865476 Anne Ominous
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Don't see him as controlled opposition unless you believe he is a 'sleeper' spouting the same line for 30 years just so they can wheel him out now.

Moreso if he is their stooge why would they actively ignore him? Don't think they need that level of sophistication for the average voter.

His time will come at the END... so probably pretty soon.

If I was American there would be no other choice.

Ron Paul = BOOM!...

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 09:40 | 1865486 Fred C Dobbs
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It's the coporate owned news media Jake.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 09:40 | 1865487 Augury Therat
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CNBC is a total joke. Mark Hoffman can be reached at (201) 735-5177/2622. 

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 09:43 | 1865497 jayman21
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warming up the war dialer...

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 09:40 | 1865488 bigwavedave
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If RP wins the GOP nomination I will start believing in God. Well.. Ok if he beats Obama I will start believing in God.  Well... OK I wont but I will give it a 10 mins to be convinced that God exists. Well... 5 so as I dont waste any of my otherwise pointless time. How is that?

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 09:54 | 1865495 Mercury
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You want to be a rebel? – read a book

You want to really be a rebel? – conduct yourself as if some kinds of behavior are good and others bad.

You want to blow peoples’ minds? – support Ron Paul and be able to articulate why.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 09:44 | 1865498 GoldmanBaggins
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"Romney (an establishment crony with the creepy grin of a pedophile)"

I disagree, study his entire face, his stance, his cadence. Nothing short of the cocksure smirk of a homicidal child rapist. 

 

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 09:50 | 1865516 Fred C Dobbs
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I was told at work that Romney looked like a closer at a Cadillac dealership.  

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 09:53 | 1865549 Moe Howard
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I was in a US Army Burial Detachment in the early 1970's, doing funerals in 6 states. I did a lot, sometimes 3 or 4 a day. I saw a lot of funeral homes. Romney looks like a funeral home "front man". Same hair, face, suits.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 09:44 | 1865500 Birddog
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As earlier stated, we get the president we deserve.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 09:46 | 1865514 gs_runsthiscountry
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"to supposed “left wing” outlets like CNBC"

*blinks*

CNBC is left wing? Seriously? Could you have meant to type MSNBC?

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 09:47 | 1865518 ZippyBananaPants
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Do you have this asswipe, Allen Wastler's, phone number?  Maybe we should call him.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 09:47 | 1865519 ZippyBananaPants
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Do you have this asswipe, Allen Wastler's, phone number?  Maybe we should call him.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 09:49 | 1865527 death_to_fed_tyranny
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Ron Paul is the the only solution to disarm the NWO. CNBS is the mouthpiece of GE, an NWO player. Ron Paul for President. DEATH TO FED TYRANNY!

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 09:49 | 1865529 oogs66
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My wife who doesn't agree with me on a single thing thought Ron Paul was the best and only one who knew what he was talking about across the issues

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 09:52 | 1865537 Outlaw Of The W...
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mawia boddiwomo:

a speech impedimented, obese, barren slut, former sheepshead bay otb clerk who sucks dicks for free airplane rides, who scored ZERO on celebrity jeopardy) and is married to a homosexual jew criminal.

the perfect shabbos shiksa.

perfectly "qualified" to do what it is she does.

 

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 10:18 | 1865679 Big Corked Boots
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OTB clerk? That's harsh, dude.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 09:51 | 1865538 Moe Howard
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If I hear something that makes sense coming from another candidates mouth, it is something they copied from Ron Paul.

I will only vote Ron Paul in 2012. Write in if I must.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 09:52 | 1865544 Bagbalm
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If everybody goes and votes for Paul they will cover that up too. They own the voting machines. If voting could change anything they would have gotten rid of it by now.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 09:52 | 1865545 williambanzai7
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There is no doubt that RP understands how the TPTB machine works better than the rest of the pack which is made up of air brains and Wall Street hacks.

There are certain things that he says that I disagree with or find questionable.

However, there are many many more things that he says that I am in 100% agreement with and I am sure many feel the same way.

I can't make these three simple statements about any of the other candidates.

That sums up my view, except to say that the one who is being ignored by the MSM is obviously being treated that way for a very good reason as far as the machine is concerned.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 09:57 | 1865568 Fred C Dobbs
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I take that to mean the best candidate out there. 

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 10:54 | 1865856 Reform1776
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If they would let Buddy Roemer in there, he would have some good things to add. They should drop that boob Perry and let Buddy Roemer on the stage.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 09:53 | 1865551 RiskAverseAlertBlog
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"Left wing" ... CNBC? Not even in Nazi Germany!

So begins "the rumor." Haynes was liquidated.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 10:00 | 1865559 Outlaw Of The W...
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LIESman, cramer, ira ross sorkin, faber, greenberg, kaminsky, rovell, finerman, kudlow the born again "Christian", boorstin, melissa francis, "zach" karabell, jane wells.

such a mitzvah everyday at englewood cliffs, itz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 09:56 | 1865561 XXL66
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I'm afraid if RP does become president he might be Kennedyzed...

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 10:02 | 1865593 Fred C Dobbs
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Jesse Ventura said he would agree to be Ron Paul's vice president.  He said that would be Ron Paul's best life insurance policy ever.  

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 13:33 | 1866581 RiverRoad
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Not with the "right" VP.  Kennedy never should have given it to Johnson.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 10:01 | 1865588 swampyankee
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I was explaining to a couple of young bucks that watching the newz is comparable to injesting poison.  The blank expression on their mugs left me curious if I had gotten anything across to them. Taking no chances, I summarized my hypothesis: THEY ARE SHITTING IN YOUR HEAD!!!   ; D

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 10:03 | 1865601 PaperBear
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Yep, the corporate news media is brainwashing the general public.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 10:06 | 1865595 Lets_Eat_Ben
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IF we are stupid enough to elect some cookie-cutter cocksucker, then we will deserve the pain that's coming. Sorry folks, your TV has fucked you!

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 10:04 | 1865596 Lets_Eat_Ben
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In response to the media blackout of Ron Paul I have instituted a blackout of every other candidate in my mind. Outside of Ron Paul, I group the rest of candidates as a giant ball of rehearsed slogan shitting shills. Every debate is a farse with only brief moments of sincerity and sanity coming out of the mouth of the ONLY candidate worth listening to. IMO the others aren't worth the rope to be used to hang them from sturdy (Newt Gingrich) tree limbs.

The Rage is growing....it has to start somewhere. It has to start sometime. What better place then here? What better time than now?

FUCK YOU idiot-box dancing monkeys!

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 10:07 | 1865627 istt
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Ron Paul is the ONLY viable candidate in the race on either side.  Those who do not understand this are either ignorant, biased or, as the real estate implosion was fond of saying, can only fog a mirror.  They simply don't get it.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 10:56 | 1865869 Reform1776
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Ron Paul and Buddy Roemer...

 

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 10:07 | 1865629 istt
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Ron Paul is the ONLY viable candidate in the race on either side.  Those who do not understand this are either ignorant, biased or, as the real estate implosion was fond of saying, can only fog a mirror.  They simply don't get it.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 12:09 | 1866221 reggiehammond
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I'm NOT A CHICK OR SUPER LIBERAL BUT I DONT WANT TO LIVE IN A COUNTRY WHERE ABORTION IS ILLEGAL. I DONT WANT TO LIVE IN THE FUCKING MIDDLE EAST. 

Paul introduced the Sanctity of Life Act of 2005, a bill that would have defined human life to begin at conception, and removed challenges to prohibitions on abortion from federal court jurisdiction.[215] In 2005, Paul introduced the We the People Act, which would have removed "any claim based upon the right of privacy, including any such claim related to any issue of ... reproduction" from the jurisdiction of federal courts. If made law, either of these acts would allow states to prohibit abortion.[147] In 2005, Paul voted against restricting interstate transport of minors to get abortions.[216]


Thu, 11/10/2011 - 20:45 | 1868376 i_fly_me
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A human life does begin at conception ... please give me your argument otherwise.

As for the others, please show where the constitution allows this to be a federal issue at all.

Fri, 11/11/2011 - 00:00 | 1868877 RiverRoad
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Should definitely be a state issue allowing people the freedom to move wherever they wish in regard to the issue.

Fri, 11/11/2011 - 04:43 | 1869225 reggiehammond
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LIFE BEGINS WHEN I SAY IT DOES YOU PIECE OF SHIT. IF I FERTILIZE AN EGG IN A TEST TUBE AND DROP THE FUCKING TUBE I DIDNT JUST KILL A HUMAN. INSTEAD, I DROPPED CUM AND AN EGG RECENTLY FUSED (SYNGAMY) BUT DID NOT END ANY HUMAN LIFE. WHETHER ITS AN EMBRYO OR FETUS I"VE GOT IMPORTANT NEWS FOR YOU IT'S NO DIFFERENT JUST A CELL COUNT. AS AN EVOLVED SPECIES WE MAKE DECISIONS ABOUT FAMILY PLANNING WHICH SEPARATES US FROM COWS AND BUFFALO. HARD FOR YOU TO UNDERSTAND BECAUSE YOU HAVE AN IQ AROUND 63 WHICH IS WHY YOU BELIEVE IN THE BOOGIE MAN. IN HEAVEN YOU WILL MET ALL YOUR GRANDPARENTS NO DOGS THOUGH. YOU ARE PATHETIC. IF I RIP YOUR HEART, EYES, ORGANS OUT ARE YOU ALIVE? DOES A ZYGOTE HAVE ANY OF THESE AFOREMENTIONED ORGANS WHICH ARE THE HALLMARKS OF HUMAN LIFE TO ANYONE WITH EVEN A SEMBLANCE OF A PRIMITIVE EDUCATION/UNDERSTANDING OF BIOLOGY? DO HUMANS HAVE ORGANS? DO ZYGOTES HAVE ORGANS? WHAT ABOUT MISCARRIAGES? IF A WOMEN LOSES A ZYGOTE IS THAT NEGLIGENT HOMICIDE? IS A LARVAE A BUTTERFLY? THERE IS NO PLACE FOR YOU IN AMERICA GO TO FUCKING PALASTINE, GET RAPED HAVE THE KID, AND PRAY TO CHRIST OR SOMETHING INEFFECTUAL. YOU ARE VILE. TAKE YOUR VEILED RELIGIOUS BANTER AND FOLD IT INTO A KNIFE AND STAB YOUR EYES WITH IT. I HAVE NEWS FOR YOU: THERE IS NO GOD. EVOLVE. 

Fri, 11/11/2011 - 04:49 | 1869228 reggiehammond
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CONSTITUTION......HOW ABOUT LIFE AND LIBERTY. IF A GIRL GETS GANG RAPED/MOLESTED SHE SHOULD NOT BE FORCED TO HAVE THE FUCKING KID AND SO FROM THERE EVERY WOMAN DESERVES THAT RIGHT. THERE ARE ENOUGH FUCKED UP KIDS. LET'S GET AWAY FROM THIS OBSESSIVE RELIGIOUS PROCREATIVE IMPULSE. WORRY ABOUT THE LIVING NOT THE UNBORN. I PROMISE WHEN YOU DIE NO ONE WILL ASK IF YOU PROTECTED THE EMBRYOS. WORTHLESS. 

Fri, 11/11/2011 - 12:15 | 1869949 i_fly_me
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Life begins when *you* say it does? Your ignorance is exceeded only by your arrogance. 

This might help: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7y2KsU_dhwI

I'll pray that it does.

Fri, 11/11/2011 - 12:50 | 1870098 reggiehammond
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KEEP PRAYING. PRAY THAT ONE DAY YOU WAKE THE FUCK UP OUT OF YOUR IDIOTIC RELIGIOUS HAZE. IT IS A FOG THAT HAS BEEN USED TO OPRESS AND CONTROL THE MASSES FOR TIME ETERNAL IT MUST BE COMFORTING TO KNOW HEAVEN AWAITS BUT SADLY WITHOUT ANY DOGS. RELIGION IS NOTHING MORE THAN A TOOL TO MANIPULATE/DISTRACT PEOPLE. BY CONCENTRATING ON SOME FREAK NOTION OF AN AFTERLIFE YOU MISS OUT ON THE REAL LIFE WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT THEY WANT IN ORDER TO MAXIMIZE PROFIT/OPRESSION LEVELS. HERE IS A NEWS FLASH COMRADE: WHEN YOU DIE IT'S FUCKING OVER. ALL THAT TIME YOU SPENT PRAYING AIN'T GONNA GET YOU A FUCKING THING. ZEUS, ALLAH, ODIN, JAH, JEHOVAH, WHATEVER THE FUCK YOU PRAY TO DOESN'T MATTER. YOU ARE A TERRIBLE PERSON BECAUSE YOU ARE STUPID AND A DISCIPLE OF ONE OF THE CRUELEST/MOST WASTEFUL DOGMAS. WHEN THE REVOLUTION COMES WOLVES WILL BE LET LOOSE IN CHURCHES TEARING PEOPLE LIMB FROM LIMB AS THE HUNGRY WOLVES FEED ON YOUR MARROW. COMRADE IT WILL BE A GLORIOUS DAY. DER WOLF KOMT AN DEIENE KIRCHE UND MUSST ESSEN.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 10:08 | 1865631 digalert
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CNN went down in flames, known as

Clinton News Network

CNBC will go down in history, tarnished forever, as the Obama/DNC propaganda mouthpiece aka CNBS.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 12:02 | 1866189 reggiehammond
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CNBC gets on it's knees to slurp corporates America's balls at every turn. Are you FUCKING KIDDING ME? CNBC HOSTED THE FUCKING REPUBLICAN DEBATE YOU ASSHOLE? CNBC IS COMPLETE SHIT AND POSSIBLY THE WORST NETWORK EVER (NEXT TO FOX) BUT IF YOU THINK THEY ARE AN EXTENSION OF THE DNC THEN YOU MUST BE ONE OF THE MOST RIGHT-WING ASSHOLES EVER AS IN YOU ARE THE DICKHEAD PROTESTING AT THE ABORTION CLINIC. ARE THEY SYMPATHETIC TO OWS? WHAT PLANET ARE YOU ON??? IS STEVE LIESMAN A LIBERAL WHEN HE REPORTS THINGS CLEARLY IN THE INTEREST OF COMPANIES WITH LARGE MARKET CAPS? YOU MIGHT NOT LIKE OBAMA BUT THERE IS SIMPLY NOT AN ACCEPTABLE REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE. THEY ARE ALL RELIGIOUS IDIOTS SANS EXCEPTION. OBAMA HAS NOT BEEN A GOOD PRESIDENT AND I UNDERSTAND ANYONE'S FRUSTRATION WITH HIM BUT VOTING REPUBLICAN IS BASICALLY CRIMINAL AT THIS POINT GIVEN THESE CANDIDATES. MICHELLE FUCKING BACHMANN? ROMNEY? LOOK INTO MORMONISM AND GET BACK TO ME. ANY MORMOM IS FUCKING CRAZY STRAIGHT UP AND BY CRAZY I MEAN EXTRA FUCKING PSYCHO. BELIEVING IN A JEW CLAIMING HE"S THE SON OF GOD ISN'T TOO BRIGHT EITHER. AN ATHEIST REPUBLICAN WOULD GET MY RESPECT BUT THIS CREW IS A JOKE.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 12:12 | 1866234 reggiehammond
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RICK SANTELLI IS A SEMINAL FIGURE (SOME ARGUE HE STARTED) IN THE FUCKING TEA PARTY YOU PLANKTON. IS THAT LIBERAL? DOES THAT MAKE CNBC A GOOD PLACE FOR DEMOCRATS??? PORTLAND, OREGON IS A LIBERAL HUB. MARIJUANA IS SOMETHING LIBERAL PEOPLE MIGHT USE RECREATIONALLY. CNBC???? YOU ARE PISSING ME OFF BY BEING SUCH A SUCKER.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 10:15 | 1865661 Dr. Gonzo
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I emailed 5 buddies who would not have voted in the IA Caucus on their own and asked them if I picked them up would they caucus for R.P. It didn't take much persuasion. The Caddy is now full. A lot of people will come out for him. Some may take just a little extra nudge. Besides it's going to be fun because there are so many screw balls who go to those things and we are getting loaded after.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 10:17 | 1865675 Segestan
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He doesn't bow to the jew. Sooooo... he's a bad guy. A bad tool.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 10:18 | 1865676 dcb
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although he polled well I noticed in the post he wasn't even mantioned.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 10:18 | 1865678 monopoly
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Excellent article. Ron Paul stands for the truth, is he perfect, of course not but he is honest and smart. We can dream guys, we can dream.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 10:18 | 1865681 MiniCooper
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I am from the UK and watching CNBC every day and watching it right now. I have been shouting at the TV "when is Ron Paul going to get a mention?". All I hear is the names of the other candidates. Not one mention of Ron Paul.

I like Ron Paul a lot and the USA needs a man like him to be its next President. I liked Ronald Regan too for the same reason.

Watching from across the Atlantic the current POTUS and Romney seem almost the same interchangable big business and Wall St candidates but Ron Paul is truely independent of all that.

Its no different here in the UK (and the rest of Europe). All the main party leaders pretend to oppose each other but actually play for the same big business, union, lobbyist, Wall St money to fund their campaigns. 

I have no way of knowing if what ZH is saying about the poll is true but if it is then I am disgusted.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 10:19 | 1865687 azzhatter
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None of the "establishment" including a lot of media types would have jobs if Ron Paul were elected.  They can ignore him all they like, it's up to us to elect him.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 10:23 | 1865709 devo
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Great post. Need more like this, and need posts about Obama abusing the executive order and claiming himself dicator. That is truly frightening.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 10:29 | 1865743 stiler
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those of you who don't like 'W' bec of perception of stupidity ought to consider Ron's lack of electability. He is old, has no chuzzbah and appears to have had a stroke. or two.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 10:31 | 1865756 andyupnorth
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I'm not a "master hacker, posting as millions of people on the web".  I am one person; and I support Ron Paul, and tell others what sound monetary policy and the rule of law is supposed to look like.

They all nod their heads in quasi-agreement, but say the system can't be changed.

Though I live in Canada and only have a Canadian citizenship, I would like Canada to get a much needed overhaul to obtain government transparency, limited power, and financial independence.

And let's exile Mark Carney, Goldman Suck's henchman, and dissolve the Bank of Canada.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 10:37 | 1865780 mick_richfield
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Morpheus:  The Most Dangerous Man in America.

There was No Post-Debate Poll.  And if there was -- its results were meaningless.

There is nothing to see here, citizen.  Please move on.

Rick Perry has Alzheimers!  Herman Cain is a rapist!  Lindsey Lohan has escaped from prison and abducted Brad Pitt!

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If your favorite candidate is not being airbrushed out of existence by the left/right mainstream establishment, then they are a tool of that establishment.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 10:47 | 1865823 Reform1776
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What can we expect when the Entertainment Industry is put in charge of the debates, and then reporting who "won".

 

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 10:50 | 1865834 stiler
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what is Ron Paul's view of war, other than we should not make them? Does he believe in a 'just war', such as the allies response to evil in WWII? 

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 11:21 | 1865966 samsara
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He served in the Armed Forces.   If you look at his donations,  He has the Highest amount from service men then any candidate

 He believes in Defense.  Not Corporate supported wars.  Like Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya etc.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 11:22 | 1865976 DollarMenu
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What I've got from listening to him for several years is:

Maintain a strong defense capability;

not place our soldiers in jeopardy recklessly;

any war must be declared by Congress.

Of course, I can't know what he might have done during a time prior to my birth,

but all wars are "just" in a victor's retrospect - and they all generate profit for the banksters,

who usually find a way to fund/profit from both sides.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 10:50 | 1865835 flyonmywall
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Politics and the kleptocracy that is in power today are two sides of the same coin. Boycott the corporations which provide $$ to feed the political machine, and the whole system crumbles. Similarly, support candidates, like Ron Paul, who are against perpetuating the same tired monetary system. This is a two pronged assault on the system. You can't talk about changing the system unless you're willing to do both. Stop buying useless crap, like iPads, iPhones, fix your old car up instead of buying a new one, use your 3 year old computer instead of buying a new one. Don't go to Starbucks, make your own coffee and put it in a thermos NOT made in China, take it to work. Cancel CNBC and your cable/satellite service. If you really want to watch segments with a particular guest, you can find the stuff online for free. Join a CSA and stop buying crap from the big box stores. Pay cash, as long as it still worth something and people want it. Otherwise, barter and deal !

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 11:02 | 1865906 topcallingtroll
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I wish there were another explanation for this repeated pattern of behavior toward Ron Paul.

OWS is correct that corporate interests have been hijacked by the wealthy oligarchs and dont represent the interests of all stockholders.

This "corporatocracy" is in opposition to both democracy and individual liberty and wields disproportionate media and political influence.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 11:27 | 1865999 CrashJPM
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The statement "Ron Paul supporters are all master hackers, and that there are only a dozen of us huddled around basement computers posing as millions" is truly ridiculous.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 11:33 | 1866037 Lmo Mutton
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basement RP hacking minion

mom more cheezits

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 12:51 | 1866378 Antipodeus
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del

 

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 12:50 | 1866384 Antipodeus
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And how come it's always a basement, and never an attic, that we're accused of being in?  The view's nicer from an attic, and you can get a breeze in through the window.  ;=((

 

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 11:48 | 1866090 CitizenPete
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RP represents everything america could be.  The status qoe (aka Bush.Obama, Romney, Cain, etc.) represent the wasteland America has become.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 11:49 | 1866101 epwpixieq-1
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Maybe it is time for the Anonymous to visit the CNBS site, and, if interested in taking side of the TRUTH, to give a helping hand to Ron Paul.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 11:59 | 1866167 acmebrainsurgery
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Forgive me of this has already been mentioned.

 

I just happen to come across this in a YouTube search on

Ron Paul, CNBC did the EXACT SAME THING), take down a
poll from their web site when Ron Paul was winning), back in 2007~!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DggQlFJ … re=related

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 12:04 | 1866196 xcehn
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When Ron Paul came out against foreign aid without an exception for Israel, he sealed his fate imo.  This is merely political reality.  The American-Israeli lobby has every right to be as organised and powerful as it can be within the confines of the law; that is the way the current American system works for EVERY special interest concern/group.  So if you are running for high office and you go against the grain, it is very much going to be an uphill battle.  Disclosure:  While I disagree with some Israeli policies, just as I do many American foreign policies, I am not anti-Israel, and definitely not anti-semitic by any stretch.

Sat, 11/12/2011 - 16:23 | 1872385 forexskin
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The American-Israeli lobby has every right to be as organised and powerful as it can be within the confines of the law;

Just substitute the name of any other country in your dumbass statement and see what a double standard you promulgate. Legal and lawful don't mean anything like the same thing in this corrupted cesspool.

And for the record, I am anti Isreal, and their traitorous dealings in placing zionists in the govennment of what's supposed to be a Consitiutional Republic.

And also for the record, I have jewish friends. I judge individuals based on character, and nations on actions. Google USS Liberty, asshat.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 12:09 | 1866226 Hayabusa
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Personally, the more they ignore Ron Paul and attempt to manipulate public opinion the more transparent the mainstream media becomes to the public.  This is a good thing... people are catching on to the corruption/propaganda - even the stupid ones are starting to catch on.  Of course all anyone needs to do is compare the "news" from the mainstream media and nonmainstream media, isolate the disrepancies and focus on what the elite are so desperate to hide/manipulate - when they do they'll get angry and show up to vote with a vengence like never before - at least this what I hope will happen.  I know, I still have an idealist sliver in me... just a sliver of hope people will finally catch on and act accordingly when it comes time to get out of their houses and vote.  I'm prob just smokin hopium.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 12:36 | 1866311 tony bonn
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the media per se are not the guilty party....rather, the "cia assets" in the media who are managed by the plutocrats are the ones pissing on the paul parade.....

the same plutocrats who spent billions in free air time to install the indonesian citizen into the white house are the same ones who fear ron paul.....

www.obamacrimes.com

as long as the plutocracy remains intact, ron paul will not become president....however, if the electorate would ever come to see themselves as slaves and drones of the new world order and the plutocracy as their vanquisher, perhaps they might attempt to throw off the shackles of slavery.....but the sheople being fucktards are probably too well medicated for such drastic actions

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 12:36 | 1866313 Mark123
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Great article!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

Of course we all know this to be the case, as it has been for the last 100 years at least.  Sadly a declining and corrupted system is incapable of reversing itself, so I do not hold out any hope for the Ron Pauls who still fight against tyranny.  The saddest part of this is that the up and coming world powers are far worse....a very bleak future for our children.

For us, we can just sit back and enjoy the bread and circuses...which are far more slick than the Roman's ever managed.  God bless Hollywood and 3d TV.

 

ps - I have stopped watching MSNBC and all other mainstream media entirely.  They offer nothing of value.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 12:59 | 1866332 tamboo
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his son is a complete bootlicking sellout turd. ergo...

ron is just another jew controlled opposition wolf in sheep's clothing .

google his masonic handshake.

they call the shots on both sides of any war/markets/debates/protests/political parties etc. to convince the sheep that they enjoy some kind of "choice".  media blackout of ron is 100% pure political theatre to give him an air of legitimacy.

real opposition gets a bullet to the back of the head and an unmarked mass grave.

 

Libertarians Vs. Democracy: Rand Paul Wants To Hand Internet To Big Business…

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 13:36 | 1866528 Dr. Acula
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So why did you use a misleading title for your link - which doesn't mention Rand Paul at all?

Also, FYI "Net Neutrality" is just another way for politicians to get involved in private matters, raise funds from lobbyists, violate liberties, and help businesses bludgeon their competitors with artificial laws instead of competing fairly. As a casual Internet user, why should I pay extra to help cover other people who download huge movie DVDs night and day? If I invested in costly network equipment, why should the government be able to force me to provide access to child porn or terrorist websites I don't agree with? And what's next, "Parcel Neutrality" where armed goons force Fed Ex and UPS to charge the same rate regardless of the size or weight of a package or its origin or destination? Or how about "Book Neutrality" where your local book store is legally forced to carry books on how to manufacture crack.

 

Do NOT follow this link or you will be banned from the site!