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Submitted by John Aziz of Azizonomics

This Is Blowback

The YouTube video depicting Mohammed is nothing more than the straw that broke the camel’s back. This kind of violent uprising against American power and interests in the region has been a long time in the making. It is not just the continuation of drone strikes which often kill civilians in Pakistan, Yemen, Somalia and Afghanistan, either. Nor is it the American invasions and occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan. Nor is it the United States and the West’s support for various deeply unpopular regimes such as the monarchies in Bahrain and Saudi Arabia (and formerly Iran). Nor is it that America has long favoured Israel over the Arab states, condemning, invading and fomenting revolution in Muslim nations for the pursuit of nuclear weapons while turning a blind eye to Israel’s nuclear weapons and its continued expansion into the West Bank.

Mark LeVine, Professor of Middle Eastern history at U.C. Irvine, writes:

Americans and Europeans are no doubt looking at the protests over the “film”, recalling the even more violent protests during the Danish cartoon affair, and shaking their heads one more at the seeming irrationality and backwardness of Muslims, who would let a work of “art”, particularly one as trivial as this, drive them to mass protests and violence.

 

Yet Muslims in Egypt, Libya and around the world equally look at American actions, from sanctions against and then an invasion of Iraq that killed hundreds of thousands of Iraqis and sent the country back to the Stone Age, to unflinching support for Israel and all the Arab authoritarian regimes (secular and royal alike) and drone strikes that always seem to kill unintended civilians “by mistake”, and wonder with equal bewilderment how “we” can be so barbaric and uncivilised.

All of these things (and many more) have contributed to Muslim and Arab anger toward the United States and the West. Yet the underlying fact of all of these historical threads has been the United States’ oil-driven foreign policy. Very simply, the United States has for over half a century pursued a foreign policy in the region geared toward maintaining the flow of oil out of the region at any cost — even at the cost of inflaming the irrational and psychopathic religious elements that have long existed in the region.

This is not to defend the barbaric elements who resort to violence and aggression as a means of expressing their disappointment with U.S. foreign policy. It is merely to recognise that you do not stir the hornet’s nest and then expect not to get stung. 

And the sad thing is that stirring the hornet’s nest is totally avoidable. There is plenty of oil and energy capacity in the world beyond the middle east. The United States is misallocating capital by spending time, resources, energy and manpower on occupying the middle east and playing world policeman. Every dollar taken out of the economy by the IRS to be spent drone striking the middle east into the stone age is a dollar of lost productivity for the private market. It is a dollar of productivity that the market could have been spent increasing American energy capacity and energy infrastructure in the United States — whether that is in oil, natural gas, solar, wind or hydroelectric.

And this effect can spiral; every dollar spent on arming and training bin Laden and his allies to fight the Soviet Union begot many more thousands of dollars of military spending when bin Laden’s mercenaries turned their firepower onto the United States, and the United States chose to spend over ten years and counting occupying Afghanistan (rightly known as the graveyard of empires). It is likely that the current uprisings will trigger even more U.S. interventionism in the region (indeed it already has as marines have already been dispatched to Yemen) costing billions or even trillions of dollars more money (especially if an invasion of Iran is the ultimate outcome). This in turn is likely to trigger even fiercer resistance to America from the Islamist elements, and so the spiral continues on.

The only way out of this money-sucking, resource-sucking, life-sucking trap that is very literally obliterating the American empire is to swallow pride and get out of the middle east, to stop misallocating American resources and productivity on unwinnable wars.

But neither major Presidential candidate is interested in such a policy. Perhaps it is because war is a great profit source for the military-industrial complex, the force to which both the Democratic and Republican parties are beholden?

In any case, we should expect to see much more of this:

 

 

Source: Reuters

 

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Fri, 09/14/2012 - 13:33 | 2795788 LULZBank
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Fuck this shit Bitchezz!!

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 13:35 | 2795799 Bastiat
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Incisive. 

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 13:42 | 2795822 Precious
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Mainstream US media choosing to ignore.  Maintain status quo at any price. 

Welcome to the New World Disorder.  Draft lotteries to be mailed out shortly.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 13:47 | 2795876 max2205
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Ok link of the video please. Is it that fucking bad

Too bad savers are not doing the same outside the fed for getting no interest. I out here by myself. Come on. Charge

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 15:23 | 2796526 KK Tipton
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Wow, YouTube is this powerful? It can literally throw the world into turmoil?

The video that launched a thousand Molotovs....

And that was just the trailer. Imagine just how powerful the full length feature would have been.

Total annihilation...

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 16:18 | 2796776 LMAOLORI
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That video is just an excuse and a poor one at that. There is evidence the attacks took place to co-ordinate with 9/11 and that our government knew and did nothing. The Britt's at least have enough of a press to report that. That stupid poorly made video has been out for a year.

Revealed: inside story of US envoy's assassination

Exclusive: America 'was warned of embassy attack but did nothing'

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/politics/revealed-inside-story-of-us-envoys-assassination-8135797.html

 

US Investigating Embassy Attacks Planned to Mark 9/11

 

US investigates: Attacks coordinated to mark 9/11?

 

What We Know About 'Sam Bacile,' The Man Behind The Muhammad Movie

 

 

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 16:45 | 2796945 seek
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Based on what we know so far about the director of this, I'm going to suggest that the video isn't a poor excuse -- it's a terribly executed cover.

The big question is for who and why -- is this the doings of the muslim brotherhood or some other group, or is it a false flag to justify action from the US? Or is it another October Surprise a couple weeks early orchestrated to throw the election?

This wasn't some spontaneous uprising; someone is playing the useful idiots on this.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 17:13 | 2797035 Dr Benway
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No this is not blowback or punishment for our sins against these countries.

 

Even if John Aziz personally presented each and every terrorist with $1m dollars, a sincere apology from the US, and a big sloppy blowjob, they would still hate us. THERE IS NO WAY TO PLACATE THIS ENEMY.

 

Even if we all moved to Mars, the terrorists would not allow us freedom there to make offensive cartoons and movies. The terrorists do not want a world where we have freedom of speech, they want us cowed like John Appeaser Cocksucker Aziz.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 17:39 | 2797122 Cathartes Aura
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NDAA.

etc.

shit stirrer newb.

 

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 17:49 | 2797164 Aziz
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I have an experiment:

Let's try and follow George Washington's foreign policy of minimizing foreign entanglements and not occupying foreign lands and see how much blowback we get.

Or we can go bankrupt trying to fight endless wars we can't afford.

Your choice.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 18:29 | 2797212 Dr Benway
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So the US withdraws within its borders and ceases all military action such as drone strikes.

 

And then just absorbs the avalanche of punishment, because this would not placate the terrorists at all. Great plan.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 18:35 | 2797303 Aziz
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I don't see Islamic terrorists attacking Switzerland or Sweden or Japan or free countries that don't occupy the middle east. 

And anyway, even if the only solution to this was war and occupation (it isn't, that actually makes it worse) then we're going bankrupt from it anyway.

That's not appeasement or cocksucking; that's realistic fiscal conservatism. 

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 18:43 | 2797324 Dr Benway
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Are you fucking kidding me???

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jyllands-Posten_Muhammad_cartoons_controversy

 

You just proved you are a fucking idiot. They do this shit EVERYWHERE, it is not about foreign policy.

Sat, 09/15/2012 - 07:44 | 2798264 i-dog
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"you are a fucking idiot"

Errrm ... it is you who is the fucking idiot! ... for being sucked in by such deliberate provocations ... and equally stage-managed reactions.

I can tell you, from personal experience back in university days, just how very easy it is to incite and lead a raging and out of control mob simply as a uni prank. All it takes is one or two locally respected "inciters" among a group of hundreds of mindless sheep (or ignorant unemployed poor immigrants, in the case of the muzzies) to create absolute havoc and mindless hatred at the drop of a hat.

The "fire-breathing" preachers, weekly pounding the pulpits of an earlier America, are similar examples from much closer to home.

Wake up ... idiot!

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 18:49 | 2797337 Dr Benway
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Not in Sweden, lol...

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTWbY5PNnJU

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Stockholm_bombings

 

Ooops John Aziz has no clue about Sweden it seems. Maybe you shouldn't open your mouth on subjects you are clueless about.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 19:37 | 2797492 Aziz
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The mistake was including Sweden as a country that doesn't occupy the middle east. They DO have troops in Afghanistan. 

No mistake in the reality that the suicide attacks are only hitting occupying countries.

http://www.khaama.com/sweden-forces-to-start-leaving-afghanistan-by-2012...

So there you go. I am right.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 20:06 | 2797569 Dr Benway
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No, but you are pathetic as you stoop to new lows of terrorist apologism.

 

Sweden isn't 'occupying' anything. Fuck you and your cliches.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 20:07 | 2797582 Aziz
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"We are continuing this policy in bleeding America to the point of bankruptcy. Allah willing, and nothing is too great for Allah"

— Osama bin Laden (November 2004)

bin Laden is winning because people like you want to fight all these wars and have all these occupations, which means all the debt, which means the Fed is now monetising huge quantities of debt, which will ultimately lead to disaster. 

So it is you, not me, who is playing into bin Laden's trap and giving terrorists what they want.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 20:26 | 2797630 Dr Benway
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I repeat, Sweden isn't bankrupting itself occupying anything. FAIL.

Sat, 09/15/2012 - 08:32 | 2798298 Temporalist
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I will say one thing about the OBL quote.  Nothing is too great for Allah except doing his own dirty work apparently.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 20:08 | 2797585 CharlieSDT
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I occupied your mom last night, you racist douchebag.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 20:28 | 2797634 Dr Benway
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Terrorist is a race now?

 

Then maybe moron is too, moron.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 22:31 | 2797874 giovanni_f
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now please shut  up and leave us all happy

Sat, 09/15/2012 - 00:36 | 2798051 LarryDavis
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I think benway is right. You can't fuck with people who believe in prophets and all that shit. Imagine a continent of creationists or hard core christian idiots then multiply that by 800. They burned a KFC over a youtube clip. Not sure you can placate that set.

Sat, 09/15/2012 - 05:22 | 2798206 JOYFUL
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It's tru! Benway is righter than rain! And therefore, yu are right! But ..before we begin the obligatory victory parade, there's just one tiny caveat to explore....

No this is not blowback or punishment for our sins against these countries.

Check. I have no problem with that...dead on!

 THERE IS NO WAY TO PLACATE THIS ENEMY.

Too tru!

Even if we all moved to Mars, the terrorists would not allow us freedom there to make offensive cartoons and movies. The terrorists do not want a world where we have freedom of speech,

This guy Benway...is he a clairvoyant or something? He could give Celeste a run for his money!

Now for that little caveat...

I think yu an "DOC" may be a bit confused about the enemy part...most everybody here knows by now that 'the terrorists' are none other than the Kosher Mafia what runs things outta their stolen goods depot down their in the HOLY LAND, and their local lackeys who they have placed in charge of "internal security" in their EUROMERIKAN PRISON ZONE...

yu n Doc may have been in the lab doing important experimental work however, and failed to get the memo...

yu see, the terrorists in charge of terrorizing everybody in the western world have decided it's time to bring the pot to a boil...so now they've instructed their rag-top underlinings to start killin Whitey, so as to get Whitey ready to kill everybody else...nuthin to do with blowback! More like payback for having hosted these hegemonist ghouls for a few centuries...now that they've picked our pockets, it's 'so long sucker!'

 

Sat, 09/15/2012 - 17:55 | 2799333 Audacity17
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No, those countries are being infiltrated and taken over in the long game.  If you interfere with the Jihadist's plans, they will attack you...if you don't, they will undermine you.  Observe Londonstan etc.

9/11 was the beginning of the end of Islam.  Islam cannot stand any sort of falsification whatsoever.  Before the:

printing press,

radio, 

tv, 

and internet

Islam still invaded Africa and Europe.

 Now that the zealots can log on and see the real wealth of other countries, their belief in the moral supremacy of Islam causes a cognitive dissonance...."if we are the righteous, why is America so rich"?  Answer..."they stole our resources"!  "It's the jewish bankers"!  There is a lot of that nonsense on this forum. 

Sat, 09/15/2012 - 05:25 | 2798208 Disenchanted
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Aziz wrote:

 

Yet the underlying fact of all of these historical threads has been the United States’ oil-driven foreign policy.

 

Yes it's all just about oil. Our Zionist inspired Israel first foreign policies have nothing to do with the problems. Come on, give me a break...I can read Chomsky for this sort of thing.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 17:17 | 2797045 KK Tipton
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Yes, I did forget the /sarc on my post.

You gotta plan 400 man bumrushes on Embassy buildings.

"Flash mobbin' ain't easy"

There's a new one for the "Swipe yo EBT" crowd to jump on.
I wanna see a video for that.

More fun in this world. Less RPG attacks.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 21:58 | 2797828 Element
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US foreign policy is like a mad-dog running around and around in ever decreasing circles until it disappears up its own arsehole, then whimpers and whines because it stinks and has its own shit all over itself.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 17:22 | 2797054 dugorama
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just a cover story.  they were clearly well organized and armed and had multiple targets pre-selected.  this is about something we'll probably never know the details on.  counter strike at spying effort?  bitch slapping someone whose name we'll never know?

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 13:48 | 2795881 kaiserhoff
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Thank god we have a Muslim, Marxist, Nobel Peacenik, professional apologist President...

Otherwise, shit could get ugly.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 13:51 | 2795890 THX 1178
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-1 This is stupid. 

http://www.silverdoctors.com/

BANKING CARTEL. BANK-ING CAR-TEL.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 14:09 | 2796026 Michael
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The Country of Israel is the most disgusting paranoid schizophrenic psychopath country on the planet.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 14:17 | 2796092 jekyll island
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There is more to it than just oil.  Great Britain divided up the middle east without regard to tribal considerations and with the aid of the US put in place leaders who they could control, who in return could control the region and provide stability.  These leaders have been barbaric at times, see Libya, Syria, etc.  Many of the people demonstrating want simple freedoms that have been banished by the dictators and the radical islamists who are now in power.  The anger at the US is caused by the US political system's continued support of the suppression of the masses. 

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 14:23 | 2796149 walküre
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It's the same here at home though, isn't it? We just have better education, better infrastructure and better perspectives. The cabal isn't shitting where it's eating. Simple concept. We're the beneficiaries of that "policy". But at the end of the day, we're just as oppresed and robbed of our futures as the Arab world at the hands of the cabal.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 14:41 | 2796271 LULZBank
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These are just the symptoms not the real cause. Before there was plenty to steal and still some leftovers for the locals to live by,

Now with growing populations and depleting resources there isint enough for locals to liveby and certainly not enough to steal, hence the riots.

It starts from the peryphery and makes its way to the core. Europe will be next, Would be fun to see what spin would be put on it. Religion? History old differences..?

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 14:56 | 2796378 fourchan
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as long as they are tearing up their own assholes i dont care.

they are animals reflected in their living conditions and retard brain wash religion.

they will never be part of the modern world because they have no reguard for civility.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 14:58 | 2796393 Killtruck
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Rudy Giuiliani must be shitting all over himself when he hears people mentioning that old 2008 Ron Paul word "Blowback".

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 16:00 | 2796754 Kobe Beef
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Chalmers Johnson said it before Ron Paul, God bless him.

And before them? I believe George -freakin' Washington said "NO FOREIGN ENTANGLEMENTS!"

And now the US is neck-deep in global empire and all the bloody shit that comes with it. Should've listened, assholes.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 15:18 | 2796502 LULZBank
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they are animals reflected in their living conditions and retard brain wash religion.

they will never be part of the modern world because they have no reguard for civility.

What do you have against Israel?

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 18:45 | 2797331 smiler03
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+1

I think you lost 5 votes because 5 idiots (and counting) didn't understand that you were being sarcastic.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 22:34 | 2797878 giovanni_f
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The cabal is shitting where we are eating. They like it that way

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 14:38 | 2796255 bankruptcylawyer
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And befoe them it was the turks for hundreds of years. Back then there was no such thing as paelistinians. Just arabs.

My grandfather spoke turkish at a time when less than 200k lived in what is modern israel and occupied territories at over 10m people.

This isnt about imperialism. Its demographics.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 15:36 | 2796586 Manthong
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Correct.  We have the military might for now, but they have the demographics and determination.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-3X5hIFXYU

If this country was not run by hypocrites bent on destroying the Constitution, we might have had a chance against a movement of hypocrites bent on enforcing their inculcated mandate.

When was the last time you heard the term "Divine Providence" used by anyone in government? They don't understand the origin or meaning of the words as used by the founders.

And oh, that kind of providence is earned, not endowed. 

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 14:39 | 2796265 Michael
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It looks like on TV, that's always muted while listening to AJ, their finally showing dead troops coming home in coffins and body bags who were killed in Afghanistan and Iraq.

It's about time our dead solders are being honored by being shown on Jewtube MSM TV.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 21:32 | 2797795 Andy Lewis
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Blow it out yer turban, Meshelle.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 14:59 | 2796394 GoldenDragon
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You're close.  Great Britain dividied up the middle east WITH regard to tribal considerations.  They intentionally created borders in a way that would create minorities in every country so that those nations would remain unstable and they thought, ironically, more controllable.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 15:01 | 2796409 illyia
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Drone strikes, advance planning to hit Saddam, etc did not help. Aziz said:

The only way out of this money-sucking, resource-sucking, life-sucking trap that is very literally obliterating the American empire is to swallow pride and get out of the middle east, to stop misallocating American resources and productivity on unwinnable wars.

Owing what we owe I would imagine that this will happen anyway. All the natives have to do is wait... If they waited more quietly then they would provoke less and have less trouble, themselves. Begging the question...

 

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 16:03 | 2796765 fxrxexexdxoxmx
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Sunnis were killing Shias and vice versa centuries before religious extremists came to north america and killed off the tribal pagans. the problems in the ME has more to do muslims killing other muslims than the state of israel or the USA

Sat, 09/15/2012 - 09:00 | 2798303 NewWorldOrange
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That's true historically, but in recent decades the negative effects and slaughters perpetrated "Muslim on Muslim" pales in comparison to the mayhem the West/Israel has fomented there.

Nothing brings two foes together like a common enemy. Case in point, and one you won't hear from the MSM but most anyone who served in Iraq around 2005-2008 will tell you: Both Shia and Sunni realized that the terror squads kidnapping and killing busloads of people in Iraq were working for Uncle Sam and the tribal elders (Sunni and Shia) worked together to spread the word that that was going on in order to expose it to the American and other soldiers, the global media, and to the Iraqi people. The word spread fast, right up the American chain of command...and then it suddenly ceased, except now a lot of very angry Muslims of both tribes were hellbent on attacking Americans, and did so, which is why most of the U.S. forces had to be pulled into the Green Zone. Note that after American forces were pulled into the walled Green Zone, these alleged inter-tribal slaughters ceased despite the "vacuum of power."

The post-American Government is Skynet. Period. Maybe our programmed zombie soldiers don't LOOK like shiny metallic terminators, and our drones don't hover at low altitude where they could easily be shot down. In other words, the REAL Skynet is worse than the movie. So who are really the bad guys? Muslims fighting for their dignity and lives against a Zionist Skynet whose flying drones routinely rain rockets down on them, or the fucks who support the Zionist Skynet?

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 15:03 | 2796416 chintito
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Looks like the loon who heads the organisation that produced the film has nothing to do with Israel. Or does he?

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=bEJMRDqsMCE

 

http://mondoweiss.net/2012/09/coptic-christian-leader-of-organization-th...

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 21:27 | 2797781 Andy Lewis
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OMIGOD, ZIONISM!!!!!!  AAAAAAAGGGGGGGHHH!!!!!!

Sat, 09/15/2012 - 08:31 | 2798297 NewWorldOrange
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"The Country of Israel is the most disgusting paranoid schizophrenic psychopath country on the"

And that's putting it mildly. I've spent time in Israel. They are easily the most selfish, materialistic, phony, self-entitled people in the world. Hands down. Not even Americans rise to their level of assholishness. The day Middle Eastern oil runs out and Israel ceases to exist will be one of the greatest days in history since the Magna Carta. It's tough to decide who is more dispicable -- zionist socialists ("republicans") or globalist socialists ("democrats"). And in that lies the essential difference between the two wings of one grotesque vulture.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 14:10 | 2796040 cgbspender
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"Nobel Peacenik"

You've got to be kidding, right? Sure, he was handed that bogus award, but he's anything but a peacenik.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/map_of_the_week/2012/06/...

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 14:47 | 2796325 kaiserhoff
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The sarcasm does get a little thick here, now and then.

Basicly, I think the Obama policy is a continuation of the Dick Cheney/enemies list policy.  Where's the dif?

Sat, 09/15/2012 - 04:02 | 2798174 e_goldstein
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The difference is that Cheney's the tin man and Obama's the scarecrow.

 

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 15:08 | 2796454 john39
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nor was obama ever a muslim.  this is all psy-op to control red-stater minds... 

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 14:15 | 2796077 Jack Burton
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Where is a man like George Bush when we need him. You didn't find him sucking up to terrorists when 9/11 was being planned and the operatives were in country. No, he stepped up to the plate and took care of business!

As long as America has a black Muslim president, a man born in Kenya and secreted into America to become the president, a man who IS a Muslim, we will never be able to subdue the terrorists in the Middle East.

Witness the outrages taking place today as our Kenyan Muslim president does nothing. Mr. Bush would have sent in the Marines and unleashed the US Navy Carrier airgroups to clean up the Muslim extremists.

We went from undisputed ruler of the Middle East under Bush, to a second rate power that surrenders to every violent Muslim extremist out there.

America should impeach the foreign born fake president and replace him with a native born Christian White Man. Only then will Muslims quake in their boots as we unleash the forces of good that will bomb all hell out of the Muslim world. They will know our rath and surrender to our will. This is a crusade, not a picnic. If we have to kill a few million to make then see reason then we need a president prepared to back America and use our forces. Obama being a Muslim will never do what is needed. He pals around with terrorists, he is a Kenyan, he is Muslim and worst of all he is Black. The time for a White president is NOW!

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 14:37 | 2796140 AbandonShip
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Isn't Obama half-White?

 

So it's pretty obvious half-White Obama is gonna win in November (Romney doesn't have a chance).  What will you do for the next 4 years?

 

edit: damn JB, please use a </sarc> tag next time.  Great post!

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 21:14 | 2797746 Clashfan
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I'llbombya is also related to Bushmonkey and Cheney. No sarc. Seriously. Cheney's wife even admitted it.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 21:30 | 2797790 FeralSerf
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Maybe I need to get my eyes checked.  He looked all brown to me -- don't know about the parts covered up by clothing -- the last time I looked.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 14:23 | 2796153 Overfed
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I think the sarcasm is going over their heads.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 14:41 | 2796272 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Jack Burton's sarcasm is brilliant. Note all the down arrows from those incapable of understanding.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 18:56 | 2797370 smiler03
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OMFG! You made a post that wasn't straight after AnAnonymous or Akak. I'm stunned. "Those incapable of understanding" +1

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 14:25 | 2796161 walküre
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LOL @ Jack Burton!!!

Georgie is probably reading to a classroom full of kids this very moment. Ya know, he loves doing that kinda stuff.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 14:34 | 2796233 lincolnsteffens
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I didn't know Georgie could read. I thought that was just a photo op to make us think he could read at a 3rd grade level.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 14:27 | 2796189 ITrustMyGut
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please crawl back under the rock your egg burst from, moron

 

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 15:14 | 2796482 bubbleburster
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Jack, Jack....you're outta your league.  Bushee hit the ball out of the park but he aimed it at Mars instead of Jupiter.  Bushee is largely responsible for the massive wave of hatred that the Muslim world currently feels towards the Yanks.  I tell you what would be poetic justice: force Cheney (along with a fresh pack of defibulators) to go with Rummy and Woolfy to act as personal ambassadors to all the country's where the US embassy's have been torched.  Just like Tony tried in vain to do after he left office from Downing Street.  Have the old guys roll into any of those country's and plead on local tv "why can't we all just get along".  Has such a sweet image to me.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 18:21 | 2797260 collon88
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JB: I know it's really you, Rush.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 23:14 | 2797944 acrabbe
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Wow. I fucking laughed out loud at this for about 30 seconds!

Sat, 09/15/2012 - 00:43 | 2798057 LarryDavis
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You have a small dick.

Sat, 09/15/2012 - 11:22 | 2798550 Hard Assets
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Mr. Burton,

As I read your mindless drivel you currently have 33 up arrows and 33 down arrows.

It is perhaps ironic that US 'voters' are equally split on your mindless drivel as they are on your upcoming election. Since you are hell bent on the notion that a 'black, fake, Muslim' president is wrong and a 'white, native, Christian' man is correct, let me offer you the correct opinion.

The United States of America is fucked with either man. Your post exemplifies what is wrong with modern America. What is wrong with your country is your leaders cannot see the world in the future, whether it be 2 years, 10 years or 20 yeras out.

Our world is going to change in every fundamental aspect in the near future and people like you, Mr. Burton, and your crony capitalist, banking pigs and your hapless, short-sighted government leaders have spend decades barking up the empire tree and now it is too late.

I will admit that the United States was once a world leader but it is now a world loser. You and your cronies and your leaders have systematically bankrupted your country and now you don't know what to do. I am sorry for Americans. You had the chance to make the world a better place but your leaders blew it.

When did you 'blow it'?

I would suggest the early '70's as the starting point. To be sure, you already had your hands in many others affairs before then, you made the brazen decision to go full 'fiat' in the early '70's, then came the 'oil backlash', then the inflation began in the late '70's, then the nation building started in earnest and the resultant geo-political wars in the mid-east in the '80's and so on and so forth.

How did you expect it to go?

More importantly, how did you expect it to end?

You have spent 41 years ass fucking every country on the planet repeatly and continuously and then you have the gall, in full-retard hubris mode to ask, why do they hate us? Why do they hate our freedoms?

Now, for one moment, I will stretch my ability to understand 'your' foreign policy over the last 41 years.

Let's say that the Soviet communist agenda had to be stopped. Let's say that the Soviet communist push into Afganistan had to be repelled during the '80's. Let's also say that dictator Hussein had to have his ass kicked out of Kuwait in 1991. 

After a miserable adventure in Afganistan, the Soviet empire began to crumble in the early '90's and by mid/late '90's the Soviet power was no more.

This is the precise moment when American leaders blew it.

Instead of a world announcement by your leaders that the evil Soviet empire was crushed and gone, the evil dictator Saddam Hussein was caged and an explicit policy announcement that world peace was the objective and that the United States would 'back off', America decided that it was not enough.

The United States could have explicitly stated that any imperial adventurism would be squashed, world peace would be the mandate and anyone fucking with that agenda would be carpet bombed.

The United States of America could have backed off, could have been the world's peace officer and maybe, maybe the world could have co-existed. America could have "bought the oil" ("Aristotle", 2000) that it needed, but no, it had to full 'access' to it. 

America was not satisfied being the sole superpower, the world had to obey and submit to the empire. Fuck the sole superpower status, let's rule the entire fucking world.

Then along comes George, Dick, Condo, Rummy and that gang of criminals in 2000. Then these neo-cons went full retard in 2001 and it has been a nightmare every day since.

Are you aware Mr. Burton that 36% of Americans do not believe a word your government says about 9/11?

Are you aware Mr. Burton that outside of the bubble of a country you live in, some 80% of the world does not believe your government's version of the 'offical story'?

Then, what the fuck did your government do in 2003? Does your government have any morals? Any respect for any sort of law?

I wake up on this Saturday morning and read a decent article by this Aziz guy, essentially agree with it fully and then I read your comment. No, "back off" is not in your vocabulary, instead you suggest more bombing, more murdering. The murdering and bombing will continue "until moral improves".

Nice, really fucking nice.

Today, I offer you my 2 step plan to world peace.

Step 1:

America will announce that "pre-emptive, preventive wars" are illegal, reverse that foreign policy nightmare and "back-off".

America will withdraw troops from any offensive role/zone and will maintain foreign military installments solely for "peace-keeping".

Essentially withdraw from the middle-east, if they want to fight amongst themselves, fine, it's their fucking business.

World governments and the UN will decide borders for Israel and the State of Israel will be defended by America if it so chooses.

World governments and the UN will decide borders for Palestine and the Palestinian State will be defended by America or Iran or whoever the fuck wants to.

World governments and the UN will confirm borders of all countries and issue a new world fucking map.

Step 2:

If an Israeli wonders into Palestine (or anywhere else) and causes trouble, he will be shot. Conversely, if a Palestinian wonders into Israel (or anywhere else)and causes trouble, he will be shot.

Expanding on that thesis, if a 'muzzie' or a 'neocon/zionist' wonders off his home turf and causes trouble, he will be shot.

Further, Iran can build bombs or nucs or chemical weapons or whatever it so chooses but if one atom of any of this material leaves the country it will be vaporized.

Finally, in the spirit of "MAD", if a country bombs another country with any WMD as outlined above, all nuclear powers will 'glass' that country and only that country.

 

In summary, Mr Burton, your theory of a 'white, native, Christian' president is a non-starter. It will surely be more of the same.

The United States is currently doing a lousy job of the 'world's policeman'. To be objective, how can one country, with the current neo-con leaders, complete with a dysfunctional, fiat monetary system in place with only its own self-serving interests in mind, police the world?

The peace plan above, as simplistic and silly as I have outlined it, truely hits home with this statement.

The world needs to police the world.....or it ends. 

 

 

 

   

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 14:21 | 2796126 uno
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time for Hillary to lecture everyone else on human rights, of course the MSM will have this as their top story for days

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 15:08 | 2796446 bubbleburster
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I'm actually deeply surprised that Christiane Armpit has not awakened Henry Kissinger from his noon time nap and asked him to croak out some words from his reptilian lobes. Would make for some much needed drama in the middle of the night.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 17:47 | 2797153 Cathartes Aura
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". . .croak out some words from his reptilian lobes."

lawl, thanks for the visual - I've always seen "toad" in his bloodline.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 17:21 | 2797051 KK Tipton
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You forgot Kenyan (ancient Egyptian warrior) in that.

The Maasai got kicked out at the same time the Priests of Aten (so called Hebrews) did.

Funny he takes the Muslim side though.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 13:50 | 2795886 YuropeanImbecille
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Why is this propaganda published here on ZH? Only more nutjubs a'la Alex Jones fans will find their way to this site.

These terrorists deserve all they get, and I do hope we the west will respond by being even harder on these murderous barbarians. 

 

Those naive idiots who say "leave them alone, and they leave us alone" should study some fucking history and check out Asia. What did the asians do to the arabs? nothing but they still attack and terrorize them in the name of the pedophile muhammad.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 13:57 | 2795936 LULZBank
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Why dont you go and teach them a lesson, yourself like you advocate?

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 14:14 | 2796070 percolator
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Yuro is to much of a pussy to do that.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 14:06 | 2796003 Terrorist
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YURO...

How does it feel to be a redneck puppet of the Mossad?

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 17:50 | 2797171 resurger
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owned

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 14:12 | 2796050 A POOR EATIN STEAK
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fuck you

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 14:47 | 2796315 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Pedobear YuropeanImbecille said:

These terrorists deserve all they get,

Which ones? The US government, the Israeli government, or both?

I do hope we the west will respond by being even harder on these murderous barbarians.

We? March on in there, Tarzan, and give them what for. Nobody is stopping you.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 15:13 | 2796478 LULZBank
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Strategies and perspectives quickly change when you are in the firing line yourself.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 15:42 | 2796649 Urban Redneck
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the difference in perspective between the couch and the front line is only surpassed by the difference in perspective between the front line and the emporers tent (unfortunately not always for the better)...

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 13:52 | 2795899 Dr. Richard Head
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The military has been excellent at getting humans to kill other humans by dehumanizing the targets.  Media is choosing to do the same, by trying to blame all of this resentment and retaliation over a half-assed produced movie.  The sheep eat it like grass on a mountainship. 

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 14:33 | 2796222 GoinFawr
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excellent comment +1

But what the hell is a "mountain's hip"?

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 20:07 | 2797183 Cathartes Aura
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that rounded verdant mound just prior to the cliff. . .

(+1 for both comments)

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 14:39 | 2796266 Metalredneck
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It is an old propaganda technique, to remove the human dignity from your "enemies."   At least until you have to interact with them.  AAhhh... The bravery of being out of range...

http://youtu.be/rekuWIKr55A

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 15:13 | 2796475 larz
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Yea we all know whichever imperialistic power that is on the top of the heap at any period in history makes enemies but what about the Madras that teach militant Islam - that is not economic that is ideological - there is alot wrong here and I try to live my american life as excellent as anyone on this planet - i would like to leave the place better than i found it.  But this is wrong no matter what the little bastards think gives them the right to be angry

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 18:04 | 2797208 Cathartes Aura
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here, a quick search for the hard of thinking,

 

US soldier kills 16 Afghans in shooting rampage


An American soldier walked off his base in the middle of the night and went on a house-to-house shooting rampage killing 16 Afghan civilians including women and children.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/afghanistan/9137035/US-so...

Pentagon condemns 'inhuman conduct' of soldiers who posed for Taliban trophy photographs


The Pentagon has condemned the "inhuman conduct" of American soldiers who posed for trophy photographs with body parts of dead Taliban bombers.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/afghanistan/9212408/Penta...

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 19:01 | 2797384 smiler03
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That cannot be true. It must be false flags from the Muslim MSM.

Americans uphold peace everywhere in the world. Americans are truely the world's Policemen. 

 

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 16:10 | 2796799 Renewable Life
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Now just think how different this week would've been if Ron Paul was the nominee for President, instead of that wall street stooge??????  Paul would be up 20 points on Obama, between the fucking madness at the Fed and the Muslim temper tantrums!  The man is just looking like a genius now, thats all!!!

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 22:58 | 2797912 giovanni_f
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Goldmen, Mon Santo's and Daddy Warbucks don't like them constitutionalists. Ironically the foodstampers support those that brought them their plight.  The only real danger for the powers that be in the US is an angry army of veterans - thats why the clamp down on every one of them brutally on the slightest sign of disobedience, like in the case of that guy who dared publishing harmless stuff on facebust.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 13:43 | 2795831 Spitzer
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Article is written by a muslim aplogist.

 

More people are killed by Islamists each year than in all 350 years of the Spanish Inquisition combined. (source)
 

Islamic terrorists murder more people every day than the Ku Klux Klan has in the last 50 years. (source)

 

19 Muslim hijackers killed more innocents in two hours on September 11th than the number of American criminals executed in the last 65 years. (source)

Adolf Hitler, Atheist

Joseph Stalin, Atheist

Mao Zedong, Atheist

Pol Pot, Atheist

More civilians were killed by Muslim extremists in two hours on September 11th than in the 36 years of sectarian conflict in Northern Ireland. (source)

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 13:48 | 2795879 mtomato2
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THAT'S a good idea...  Let's DOWN arrow a post with relevant points and sources to back them up...

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 13:56 | 2795930 Global Hunter
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well one of his sources blames islam for all the deaths on 9/11, down arrow for assuming that, sources and all.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 14:14 | 2796065 Spitzer
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And who are you blaming ?

Jews of course.

I smell a Nazi

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 14:20 | 2796121 AbandonShip
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nah, it happend in an "islamic vaccuum".  Only those hijackers were involved.  They must have thought up the plan over a camel racing match and a plate of hummus.  Definitely no reason to specifically attack the US, why would they want to attack the US?  Why would ANYONE want to attack the US?  Oh right, they hate "our freedom".   ("Killing Hope" <--great book)

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 14:28 | 2796191 Spitzer
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Naw eh..

The US staged 9/11 to create fake enemies to start fake wars to get to all that oil in Afganistan.

Everyone loves the good ol USA so much that they have to create enemies..

/sarc

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 14:35 | 2796236 putaipan
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just 'cause it's sarcastic, doesn't mean it's not true....

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 15:45 | 2796668 Spitzer
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Ok then..

The US in fact, has no real enemies on planet earth.

I guess Britain didn't have any in 1939 either...

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 19:10 | 2797416 smiler03
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+1

LOL!

The number of ZH plonkers who can't understand sarcasm is getting ridiculous. At the age of 12 I was taught that Americans can't understand sarcasm. It must be an educational thing. Something to do with free speech?

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 19:04 | 2801520 blunderdog
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When a guy like you says "the US" has or doesn't have enemies, who/what are you really referring to?  The government?  The armed forces?  The owners of the central bank?

It doesn't seem you can possibly be talking about the RESIDENTS of USian territory. 

Shit man, I've never even *met* a radical Islamist, let alone pissed him off.  Our CIA boys started making friends with those guys 30 years ago, though.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 14:21 | 2796130 Global Hunter
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I've seen enough evidence to make me question the original story.  As with this youtube clip that has got everybody in a bother, I have no clue what the true motives/motivation are nor do I know who did it.  I am just some guy trying to make sense of things and the official stories don't make any.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 13:57 | 2795933 Schmuck Raker
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What is so relevant about cherry-picking US apologizismcitizensism?

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 13:58 | 2795938 AnAnonymous
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Relevant points? Cheap propaganda...

How many innocents US Americans killed with two bombs?

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 14:04 | 2795998 TheFourthStooge-ing
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.

Relevant points? Cheap propaganda...

How many innocents US Americans killed with two bombs?

On this point, I have to agree with AnAnonymous.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 22:11 | 2797852 Clashfan
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Me too. Long roadside shitting Chinese citizenism on that one!

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 14:17 | 2796098 Spitzer
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I guess if something doesn't fit your anti Semitic view then you figure its "cheap propaganda"

Basic numbers and facts are "cheap propaganda" ?

 

The two A-bombs saved more lives then they killed if traditional war carried on.

 

 

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 14:58 | 2796314 GoinFawr
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The two A-bombs saved more lives then they killed if traditional war carried on.

Says you, of course we'll never really know, now. I guess all those women and children burnt alive will just have to take your word for it, for what that's worth.

Mass murderers always have rationalizations for their actions, and if they are wealthy/powerful enough, they can always hire teams to do it for them.

Jingoist.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 15:47 | 2796679 Spitzer
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That is why they used the atom bombs you idiot. To SAVE lives.

Sounds crazy doesn't it. Do some fucking research.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 15:56 | 2796735 GoinFawr
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I got news for ya: rationalizations like yours don't  just sound crazy...

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 16:24 | 2796856 Umh
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They had to come up with some bullshit excuse for what they did. So they sold the American public on the idea that they had saved a multitude of US soldiers lives. It's still a bullshit excuse.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 17:27 | 2797068 FeralSerf
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The atom bombs were dropped, not to save lives, but to show Uncle Joe Stalin that America was one mean motherfucker and Americans intended to get the spoils of the war.  Even Eisenhower and McArthur were against the bombings.  You do some fucking research.

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 19:10 | 2801526 blunderdog
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I think the simplest and most obvious explanation is actually that we had to make sure the fucking things really worked.

I mean, yeah, the theory was there, the testing had been done, etc etc, but no general worth his salt wants to formulate long-term military strategy by ASSUMING a weapon will do what the boffins claim it will.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 17:42 | 2797135 Henry Hub
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***That is why they used the atom bombs you idiot. To SAVE lives.***

Hey, by that kind of logic, if Israel nukes Iran they will also saving millions of lives.

This kind of thinking is pretty sick, but once you get into it, there is a certain internal logic.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 15:01 | 2796411 earnulf
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Indeed, estimates of casualtes from invadaing the Home Islands of Japan ranged in the millions, mostly on the Japanese side as killed and many millions more wounded on both sides, both military and civilian.    This also does not take into account the potential of the typhoon which struck the staging area and would most likely have been the second coming of the divine wind in the eyes of the Japanese and could have hardened then even more into the kill or be killed mindset.

This was literally the lesser of two evils and the culmination of hatreds forged over deliberate misunderstandings and demagogery.    The US remains the only nation to have ever detonated a nuclear bomb in a time of war, but that too has been due to last minute rationality and plain dumb luck.      Our luck runs out if the Hermit King or the Desert Prohpet come up with a working nuke, the level of irrationality of those two should make people's blood run cold.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 15:15 | 2796492 LULZBank
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if the Hermit King or the Desert Prohpet come up with a working nuke, the level of irrationality of those two should make people's blood run cold.

That would save a lot of lives too.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 17:31 | 2797087 KK Tipton
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Admit it. Dr. Strangelove just wanted to see the bomb go off.

That's it, that's all. The US generals would have used it on anybody.
Japs just happened to be in the crosshairs first.

I don't know what's more sick. The coverup or the bombing itself.

The coverup of human nature keeps on killing.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 21:19 | 2797757 Clashfan
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Sorry. Seems to me it was more like this:

http://www.whale.to/b/mullins8.html

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 21:20 | 2797766 Clashfan
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Are not you actually Dick Armitage?

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 17:35 | 2797028 Shell Game
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Well referenced.  But what is the inference?  That they are fungus that should be sprayed with sodium hypochlorite?  The truth is that you are part of the problem if you think extermination is an option.  Let's stop exporting Fed inflation to them and get the fuck out of their countries. Let's bring down our Keynesian .Gov-Corp. protectionist contro-freaks and replace them with live-and-let-live anarcho-capitalism, making trading partners rather than gun-to-your-head 'military partners' and foreign drone factory whores.

Been there, done that. Choose Liberty you Neocon/Libcon fucks.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 13:54 | 2795917 THX 1178
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Hitler was not an atheist, he was a christian.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 14:19 | 2796112 Spitzer
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Wrong

In political relations with the church, Hitler adopted a strategy "that suited his immediate political purposes".[341] According to a US Office of Strategic Services report, Hitler had a general plan, even before his rise to power, to destroy the influence of Christian churches within the Reich.[342][343] The report titled "The Nazi Master Plan" stated that the destruction of the church was a goal of the movement right from the start, but that it was inexpedient to express this extreme position publicly.[344] His intention, according to Bullock, was to wait until the war was over to destroy the influence of Christianity.[340]

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 15:28 | 2796570 shovelhead
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You know your history well.

Hitler needed the Christian Democrat Party (Nazis held only 44%)  to vote to push through the Enabling Act which allowed Hitler 'Emergency Powers' (Read NDAA). The Brownshirts blocking the Opera House exits assured the victory.

The Riechstag fire was the week before so hence the Opera House.

Hitler used the Churches until he could crush their power after the war and resistance would be minimal.

But some like that canned pablum the revisionists peddle for their own purposes.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 19:20 | 2797448 smiler03
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Perhaps this is off topic, but..

It's scary how many European countries have political parties with "Christian"in their names.

Thank fucking holy tent erecting fart satellite launching blonde intellect astounding IQ busting chicks that we don't have them in the UK. 

 

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 14:22 | 2796146 assembler
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Wrong. Obviously you have not even attempted to research your claim. Consider:

quotes from Adolf Hitler:

"National Socialism and religion cannot exist together.... The heaviest blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of Christianity. Bolshevism is Christianity's illegitimate child. Both are inventions of the Jew. The deliberate lie in the matter of religion was introduced into the world by Christianity.... Let it not be said that Christianity brought man the life of the soul, for that evolution was in the natural order of things." (p 6 & 7)

This, and many other documented quotes from Hitler can be found in the book "Hitler's Secret Conversations 1941-1944" published by Farrar, Straus and Young, Inc.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 14:41 | 2796273 THX 1178
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National Socialism and christianity cannot exist together. ok. Hitler was not a national socialist. He was not a scoicalist at all. He called Bolshevism Christianity's illegitimate child and a product of Jews. So he wasn't a socialist... he ran on that ticket, though. Christianity is certainly not an invention of the Jews, and Hitler never said that. As for the rest, this comes from "Hitlers secret conversations"? Yeah, Ok... Since we all know hitler was Christian... obviously therer are lots of Christian Childhood brainwashing victims interested in disproving that fact. this is that book. Perhaps the worst man to ever live... a member of your religion? HERESEY! See this book?!?!?!?! SEE IT!?!?!?! Im a good person... I love god... etc.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 14:53 | 2796359 Randall Cabot
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Wasn't St Paul a jew? Wasn't he responsible for spreading Christianity in Europe?

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 15:13 | 2796473 THX 1178
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Is this a question or an assertion?

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 16:24 | 2796850 Randall Cabot
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An invitation.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 16:56 | 2796971 THX 1178
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Wasn't Jesus a Jew who spread the word of Christ?

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 17:39 | 2797124 KK Tipton
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"Wasn't Jesus a Jew who spread the word of Christ?"

Not technically. He was from Gallilee. They were "jewish" by religon only.
Prob. not bloodline. Jews wanted him dead anyway. He was a threat.
There are a few other theories mixed in there too.

But...the "jews" were the upperclass of the worshippers of Aten. Egyptian priest class.
They were "told to leave" Egypt by their fellow countrymen that wanted to return to polytheism.
Vacated an entire city.

After that they got mixed with Bablyonians...and the rest is modern history.

 

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 17:48 | 2797158 Henry Hub
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...and then the three bears ate all the porridge.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 18:12 | 2797230 KK Tipton
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Galilee is near Damascus Syria. Jerusalem is way south from there.

Why does the Gospel Of Thomas have Syrian "influences"?

What is the Gospel Of Thomas all about? The sayings of Jesus. Exclusively.

The Gospel of Thomas Collection -- Translations and Resources - http://bit.ly/run2Bf

Reality is cooler than any fairytale.

 

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 18:24 | 2797264 Henry Hub
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I know where Galilee and Jerusalem are. I have visited both of them. But thanks for the geography lesson.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 18:02 | 2797202 Randall Cabot
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"Wasn't Jesus a Jew who spread the word of Christ?"

He was a jew but he didn't spread the "word of Christ"-he was trying to get the other jews in line. St Paul invented the "word of Christ" and spread it to Europe where it went nowhere until Constantine, who never converted himself, made it the state religion of Rome as a control mechanism for the masses.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 18:14 | 2797239 KK Tipton
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Then King James took the idea and ran with it a bit...

Right to America it went.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 14:33 | 2796224 Abiotic Oil
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There is some evidence Hitler was a cryptojew.

Check out "To Eliminate the Opiate" by Rabbi Antelman

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 16:34 | 2796899 LMAOLORI
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There's DNA evidence he may have Jewish blood but no evidence of him being a crypto jew your source isn't credible

DNA tests reveal 'Hitler was descended from the Jews and Africans he hated'

Fabian Socialist's will use what ever means necessary including Religion Karl Marx had Jewish blood and he was also anti-semetic just lijke Hitler

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 17:43 | 2797109 GoinFawr
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 from what I've read of Marx he was merely anti-bankocracy, or are you implying that's the same thing ? Maybe you're deriving the 'anti-semetic' bit from the fact that he was an atheist, which means he was essentially anti-all-believers-of-magical-books?

I agree with you about the Fabians

"I am a Christian, therefore I must be a communist."- GB Shaw. but in their defence there's a helluva lot supporting that statement in the Word.

OTOH Capitalists don't seem to shy from 'using' religion to their advantage either; though the mental gymnastics they have to do in order to reconcile the obvious amorality of capitalism

"...provides bread, but with no inherent moral basis." F Dostoyevsky

with the religion are much more contorted. Because Jesus didn't 'say' all that much that was positive about lining your pockets at the expense of others the capitalists are left to focus on the 'thou shalt not covet' meme.

Personally, I'd like the extremists bred by all three of the Abrahamics, or any religion/philosophy for that matter, to take a step back and literally FUCK THEIR OWN FACEs. 

You know, even though I am most certainly an atheist I still thank magical fantasy God every day for egging them on to kill each other off over who's got the biggest righteousness; maybe when they're all done murdering each other all of us living in the real world will have a chance to breathe free again, but of course I'm not holding my breath.

 

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 17:48 | 2797159 KK Tipton
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""I am a Christian, therefore I must be a communist."- GB Shaw. but in their defence there's a helluva lot supporting that statement in the Word."

Well, sure. Seeing that the Egyptians priests that got kicked out and morphed into "hebrews" later liked that setup.
Everyone had to give everything to them and then they doled it back out.
Ancient Egyptian society manifesting in many places and "isms" for thousands of years after.

We need to get over this shit. ASAP.

"It's possible to annihilate a lie simply by becoming aware of it" said ZH Diogenes.

Maybe we need to modify it to:

"It's possible to annihilate a meme simply by becoming aware of it".

The "give your shit to us in tribute, and we will take care of you (after we skim a bit)" crap must be stopped.
Worldwide.

 

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 19:28 | 2797471 smiler03
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"DNA tests reveal 'Hitler was descended from the Jews and Africans he hated'"

 

We're all descended from Africans and we are all related to each other. Some of us has evolved, thank goodness.

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 19:19 | 2801541 blunderdog
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    It's possible to annihilate a meme simply by becoming aware of it.

Um..."awareness" of a meme creates a COPY of it.

I'd have to assume it takes an AWFUL lot of duplication of something to destroy it, because I've never seen that effect demonstrated.  For some reason, whenever I've seen stuff duplicated, there's been MORE of it afterwards.

But I've never been able to convince myself that black and white are the same thing, either, so I may operating at a disadvantage here.  Simultaneous "tea" and "no tea" eludes my grok.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 21:23 | 2797772 Clashfan
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They were both Luciferians. Check out Marx's associations with the Thule Society.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 15:21 | 2796511 bubbleburster
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Yes, I'm also a clone of Sponge Bob.  Your're nuts.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 21:21 | 2797768 Clashfan
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Hitler, like most of the Nazi brass, was an occultist posing as a Christian.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 13:58 | 2795939 Sofa King Confused
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I think your understanding of September 11th is a little off

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