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Guest Post: In Case You Really Have To Flee The Authorities…

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Submitted by Simon Black from Sovereign Man

Guest Post: In Case You Really Have To Flee The Authorities…

When most people think of Brazil, it’s the incredible beaches that come to mind. Or the crazy parties of Carnival. Or the spectacular vistas and great weather. Or how indescribably gorgeous (and welcoming) the locals are.

But here’s a little known fact, and it’s something that sets Brazil apart from most other places: Brazil’s constitution prohibits the extradition of Brazilian citizens to other countries. This is a rare gem in the world… I’ll explain.

Believe it or not, most countries are happy to sell their citizens down the river to another government. If you have been charged with a crime in another country, or are even simply ‘wanted for questioning’, your home government in all likelihood will comply with the request to round you up and ship you off.

For example, only 7% of all extradition requests that the US government made to the British government between 1 January 2004 and 31 July 2009 were denied. The US government denied ZERO extradition requests from the British government over the same period.

You may also be familiar the ongoing case of Wikileaks’ founder Julian Assange, who is wanted in Sweden for “questioning” related to bizarre sex case.

The British government approved Sweden’s extradition request, though Assange has appealed the decision numerous times. He’s lost every appeal so far, and in all likelihood he’ll be on a plane bound for Sweden in the near future.

Assange is an Australian citizen, and his government has completely abandoned him.

You may also remember the more recent case of Kim Dotcom, the German founder of MegaUpload.com who was arrested in New Zealand as part of a US operation to shut down his file-sharing site. Like Assange, the German government has been silent.

This is ironic because most people are brought up to believe that their governments will protect them… that if you get into a jam overseas, they’ll send the military to rescue you.

The reality is that, far more often, governments trade their own citizens away in order to score diplomatic brownie points, even when there’s not even a crime involved.

The US-Mexico extradition treaty, for example, lists a number of extraditable offenses, such as:

- Violations of the customs laws
- Offenses against copyright or intellectual property
- Offenses related to international trade and transfers of funds or valuable metals
- Offenses relating to prohibition “unfair transactions”

We’re not exactly talking about violent criminals here; these rules so opaque that just about everyone on the planet is in violation of some offense.

That’s why Brazil’s Constitutional guarantee is so refreshing. Brazil has a long history of rejecting extradition requests for citizens… and if Assange and Dotcom had thought that far ahead, they’d be sitting on the beach in Rio right now instead of wearing electronic ankle bracelets under house arrest.

Needless to say, this requires obtaining Brazilian citizenship… which, if you’re in a hurry, you can qualify for in just 12-months. More on that in a future letter, I’ve got a plane to catch!

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Thu, 05/10/2012 - 14:47 | 2414136 in4mayshun
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ZH feeling very cataclysmic today...TEOTWAWKI, fleeing the Authorities...Jeez!

Gonna go listen to Glen Beck for some upbeat news.

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 14:55 | 2414182 Clueless Economist
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Brazil?..Good choice fiat $'s go very far in the slums of Rio.

Set up a little drug dealing business in the slums and live like a king!

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 14:59 | 2414200 Pladizow
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Obrigado Bitchez!

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 15:10 | 2414249 Joe Sixpack
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acai bitchez!

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 15:35 | 2414342 Mountainview
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You remember the British post train robbers? The knew this half a century ago!

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 16:34 | 2414534 neidermeyer
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Ronald Biggs ... The pistols wrote about him ... "No One is Innocent"

 

 

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 18:15 | 2415048 Moe Howard
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Martin Bormann on Bass.

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 22:37 | 2416054 Half_A_Billion_...
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NSFW warning.  I bet one of these Brazilian ladies will marry you for your ki$$es.  http://www.041vip.com.br/index2.htm

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 20:04 | 2415510 Buck Johnson
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I know, Phil collins played Buster Edwards in the movie Buster.  Bravil is a good place, I would love to visit the place to see it.

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 15:28 | 2414326 q99x2
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Oregano bitchez

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 17:50 | 2414905 cowdiddly
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don't guess you have been to Miami lately.

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 14:56 | 2414189 Manthong
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Well, if you get all that stuff the hedgeless horsedude suggests, you’ll be good to go a few thousand miles up the Amazon River.. not a government care in the world up there.

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 19:19 | 2415364 HungrySeagull
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Just have enough boat between your ass and the fish.

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 16:24 | 2414494 DosZap
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Needless to say, this requires obtaining Brazilian citizenship… which, if you’re in a hurry, you can qualify for in just 12-months. More on that in a future letter, I’ve got a plane to catch!.

 

Thanks for leaving out the most IMPORTANT PART SIMON.

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 18:43 | 2415181 nmewn
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Or, as I've been saying, have alternate ID's set up in advance.

Life/government gives you lemons/ID...make lemonade ;-)

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 18:51 | 2415223 Gideon Gono
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Exactly.  Want to get it 12 months?  Marry a brazilian and learn to read and write Portugese.  Otherwise it take longer.

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 22:04 | 2415966 Milestones
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Wrong. Even if married it requires you to LIVE in BraSil, (not z their currency and people use S) for 2 years for citizenship.       Milestones

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 23:06 | 2416128 RafterManFMJ
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For an excellent Brazilian film, watch Elite Squad directed by José Padilha. Might change your mind about running any drugs...

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 14:45 | 2414144 Poetic injustice
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If you get that far as border... good time to rewatch "Enemy of the state", only skipping happy ending.

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 14:47 | 2414147 NotApplicable
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It's so quaint to see Simon go on about getting out of the clutches of the authorities by relying on the clutches of other authorities, in the form of a "damned piece of paper."

Laughable.

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 15:01 | 2414206 Pladizow
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And your proposal?

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 15:40 | 2414364 NotApplicable
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Stop proselytizing one form of enslavement as freedom from another. Frankly, it's embarrassing to observe this disconnected level of incoherence from an otherwise seemingly intelligent person.

 

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 15:52 | 2414395 trembo slice
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Not that I disagree with your sentiment... but what choice do you have?  Are you just going to go out guns blazing?  Ultimately, it's governments' monopoly on force that has allowed this sad state of affairs to arise in the first place.  No monopoly on force -- no federal reserve monopoly via legal tender laws.  The great obstacle the state presents is its "legal" monopoly on the initiation of force.

If you can move somewhere the state plays a less dominating role in society why not?

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 16:14 | 2414466 NotApplicable
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To ask that question answer is to answer it, as it's wholly dependent upon the idea of "if." In other words, it's just more Hopium to placate the upper levels of the masses. To answer it directly though.

First, IMO, my existence upon this planet is legitimate, "theirs" is not, as it's merely an abstraction (a club, for instance) which elevates some individuals over others. This occurs only due to force of violence that has succeeded long enough to be seen as an immovable institution.

Most importantly though, I believe Simon's ideas play right into the hands of the destroyers by further disintegrating community. It is my belief that only strong communities can hold government forces in check. If everyone is merely a tourist, you become subject to their every whim. and the safety you believed you moved to obtain today becomes tomorrow's distant memory.

At one time, I seriously considered adopting the "Five Flag" lifestyle, in an effort to "save my family." What I realized though, was that the costs simply were not worth it, as it completely undermines a family by uprooting them from community, extended family, and their culture. While some might not mind these trade-offs, I find them to be wholly dehumanizing.

So, instead I choose to dig-in, blend-in, and whatever else it takes to make the best of what there is where I already am.

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 16:27 | 2414505 blunderdog
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Yep, that's my take too.  There's no place to run.  Live your life as you see fit, and be prepared to be chewed up by the machine. 

You can't "escape" anything.  You CAN nut-up and fight for your beliefs.

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 16:48 | 2414588 NotApplicable
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And by fight, I chose to do it in the arena of ideas. They are the criminals, not me. Armed with the wisdom of Mises, Hayek, Rothbard, et al., they don't stand a chance. Which of course, is why they rely on their fear-mongering criminal nature to avoid intellectual battles, instead choosing idiot tools such as Krugman to ridicule them in a seemingly intelligent fashion.

Tu Ne Cede Malis, Bitchez!

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 16:27 | 2414507 Money 4 Nothing
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Revolution, I held out as long as I could to see if Americans will stand up. outta time folks. Would have been quite a spectical.

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 14:47 | 2414148 Deep79
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Man this guys articles are getting worse and worse

If you are a law abiding citizen, why would you have to flee, 

Shame on you Simon

 

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 14:51 | 2414161 LawsofPhysics
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True.  Then again, if the owners of the Federal Reserve haven't done anything wrong or treasonous then why won't they let a complete audit be performed?   I am fine with no regulations so long as companies and institutions are completely transparent.  I didn't junk you, but it would appear simon has some fans, weak.

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 14:53 | 2414178 Robot Traders Mom
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You left out that law-breaking citizens will soon be those owning hard assets...

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 15:01 | 2414211 Pladizow
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To: Deep69

Who defines what the law is?

What if gold ownership becomes illegal AGAIN or blogging or posting on ZH?

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 15:27 | 2414312 CIABS
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Deep69:  You sleazy troll.

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 15:36 | 2414348 Deep79
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LOL LOL LOL

 

Sleazy troll

 

ok buddy

 

 

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 16:24 | 2414493 Al Huxley
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That's why I'm a big fan of the new TSA checkpoints, phone-tapping by the government, and the general new 'show-us-your-papers' society we live in today.  Because hey, if you object to the government spying on you, what are you hiding?  /sarc

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 15:04 | 2414228 LawsofPhysics
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Hhmm.  Will there be a special waiver for the political class?  I know that my senator owns very large tracks of land as well as several buildings, businesses and properties.  I don't think this one would come to pass without blood on the capital steps.

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 15:50 | 2414388 FeralSerf
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Prosecutorial discretion.  As long as you suck the right dicks, you shouldn't have any problem.

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 14:53 | 2414176 I Am Not a Copp...
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Laws change, and you've probably already broken some you don't even know about.  The Jews in Nazi Germany were law abiding citizens, until they were not.

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 15:08 | 2414239 jayman21
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You beat me to it.

 

Information being collected on your lawful activities today may not be considered lawful tomorrow.  When things get desperate the letter of the law is the first thing to go.  Just ask the Romans.  Why junk Simon when he is offering information that maybe helpful tomorrow.  Not because I did something wrong, but because people in Washington are doing something wrong.

Read about Nazi Germany.  Lots of good eggs went bad in the 1930s.  If you do not think that can happen in the USA, look up Martin Armstong's case.  You will see the use of this information if you are a lawful citizen both in spirit and to the letter.

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 15:30 | 2414325 AustriAnnie
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In Nazi Germany you were breaking the law if your neighbor decided to turn you in.  

No proof of crime required.

Every time I hear someone say "If the authorities detain someone, then they MUST be criminals" I want to slap them in the face.

When the people who benefit from your detention make the decision whether or not you broke the law, its pretty obvious what will happen.  Especially since all Constitutional rights to be treated as "innocent until proven guilty" have been thrown out the window.  You are a lawbreaker if someone in a uniform with a badge SAYS you are a lawbreaker.

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 16:22 | 2414482 Husk-Erzulie
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(In Nazi Germany)   Under NATO occupation you (were) are breaking the law if your neighbor decides to turn you in.

Fixed ya :-)

*edit (funny... strike through no workin)

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 15:56 | 2414409 FeralSerf
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Read Susan Lindauer's "Extreme Prejudice".   She gives a very detailed and frightening personal experience description of what it's like to be prosecuted under the Patriot Act.  The defendent doesn't get to know what the charges are, who the witnesses are or what the evidence is.  It's "classified".

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 22:24 | 2416021 Milestones
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Except that many Jews used their influence to undermine the German economy by preaching boycotting German products during the 30's. Might have pissed off a few german folks.              Milestones 

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 14:56 | 2414190 TWSceptic
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"If you are a law abiding citizen, why would you have to flee"

 

Don't make me use the godwin argument.

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 15:42 | 2414365 jayman21
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Why would you want to leave out Nazi Germany in this discussion.  It is an important part.  I think Rome is even more important part of history, as Germany was not the reserve currency in WWII.  When Rome fell, it was like the USA today.  Lots of good comparisions.

 

I hope this is not the Rome moment, but rather what Churchhill said about the USA in WWII.

 

“You can always count on Americans to do the right thing - after they've tried everything else.”

 

Let's hope we are just going through everthing else!!!

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 16:04 | 2414429 margaris
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Doug Wead (when interviewed by Judge Napolitano) explained it very good:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHxa_09fosQ

"Just because you are innocent doesn't mean you can't end up in a gulag somewhere..."

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 14:58 | 2414194 tmosley
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Yes, why should a law abiding German Jew want to flee Germany?  We even gave those guys free camps, for kids AND adults!

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 14:59 | 2414202 TWSceptic
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;)

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 14:59 | 2414203 Money 4 Nothing
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Because of this jack ass.

Thirty Little Known Facts About America, IRS, IMF, Executive Orders…
Tuesday, January 18th, 2011 | Posted by Dr. Leonard Coldwell

Dr Coldwell, 30 Unknown facts about America, Treasury, IRS

By Stephen Lendman
1-16-11
1. The IRS is NOT a U.S. Government Agency. It is an Agency of the IMF. Diversified Metal Products v IRS et al. CV-93-405E-EJE U.S.D.C.I. Public Law 94-564 Senate Report 94-1148, pg 5967 Reor ganization Plan #26 Public Law 102-391

2. The IMF is an Agency of the U.N. Black’s Law Dictionary 6th Ed. Pg 816

3. The United States has NOT had a Treasury since 1921. 41 Stat. Ch. 214 page 654

4. The U.S. Treasury is now the IMF. Presi dential Documents Volume 29 No. 4 page 113 22 U.S.C. 285-288

5. The U.S. does not have any employees because there is no longer a United States. No more reorganizations. After 200 years of bankruptcy it is finally over. Executive Order 12803

6. The FCC, CIA, FBI, NSA and all of the other Alphabet Gangs were never part of the U.S. Government, even though the ‘U.S. Government held stock in said ‘Agencies. &n bsp; U.S. v. Strang, 254 U.S. 491 Lewis v. U.S., 680 F.2d, 1239

7. Social Security Numbers are issued by the UN through the IMF.

The application for an SSN is the SS5 form. The Department of the Treasury (IMF) issues the SS5, not the ‘Social Security Administration. The new SS5 forms do not state who publishes them while the old form states they are Department of Treasury. 20 CFR Chap. 111 Subpart B 422.103 (b)

8. There are NO Judicial Courts in America and have not been

since 1789.

‘Judges do NOT enforce Statutes and Codes. Executive Administrators enforce Statutes and Codes. FRC v. GE, 281 U.S. 464 Keller v. Potomac Elec. Co., 261 U.S. 428 1 Stat. 138-178

9. There have NOT been any ‘Ju dges in America since 1789. There have only been Administrators. FRC v. GE, 281 U.S. 464 Keller v. Potomac Elec. Co., 261 U.S. 428 1 Stat. 138-178

10. According to GATT you MUST have a Social Security Number. House Report 103-826

11. New York City is defined in the Federal Regulations as the United Nations. Ru dolph Guiliani stated on C-Span that ‘New York City is the Capital of the World. For once, he told the truth. 20 CFR Chap. 111 subpart B 422.103 (b) (2) (2)

12. Social Security is NOT insurance or a contract. Nor is there a ‘Trust Fund. Helvering v. Davis, 301 U.S. 619 Steward Co. v. Davis, 301 U.S. 548

13. Your Social Security check comes directly from the IMF which is an Agency of the United Nations. Examine one: top-left should be written ‘United States Treasury see 2-4 above.

14. You own NO property. Slaves can’t own property. Read carefully the Deed to the property you think is yours. You are listed as a TENANT. Often times the Mortgage Holder or the State is listed as Seised in demesne as of fee. Senate Document 43, 73rd Congress 1st Session

Seised in demesne as of fee. This is the strict technical expression used to describe the ownership in ‘an estate in fee-simple in possession in a corporeal hereditament. The word ‘seised is used to express the ‘seisin or owner’s possession of a freehold property; the phrase ‘in demesne, or ‘in his demesne, (in dominico suo) signifies that he’s seised as owner of the land itself, and not merely of the seigniory services; and the concluding words, ‘as of fee, import that he is seised of an estate of inheritance in fee-simple. Where the subject is incorporeal, or the estate expectant on a precedent freehold, the words ‘in his demesne are omitted. (Co. Litt. 17a; Fleta, 1.5, c. 5, 18; Bract. 1.4, tr. 5, c. 2, 2) Brown. “Black’s Law Dictionary

Fourth Edition, page 1523.

15. The most powerful court in America is NOT the United States Supreme Court, but the Supreme Court of Pennsylvania. 42 Pa. C.S.A. 502

16. The King of England financially backed both sides of the Revolutionary War. Treaty of Versailles July 16, 1782 Treaty of Peace 8 Stat. 80

17. You CANNOT use the U.S. Constitution to defend yourself because you are NOT a party to it. Padelford Fay & Co. v. The Mayor & Alderman of the City of Savannah, 14 Georgia 438, 520

18. America is a British Colony. The ‘United States is a corporation, not a land mass and it existed before the Revolutionary War and the British Troops did not leave until 1796. &n bsp; Respublica v. Sweers, 1 Dallas 43 Treaty of Commerce 8 Stat 116 Treaty of Peace 8 Stat 80 IRS Publication 6209 Articles of Association October 20, 1774

19. Britain is owned by the Vatican. Treaty of 1213

20. The Pope can abolish any law in the United States. Elements of Ecclesiastical Law Vol. 1, 53-54

21. A 1040 Form is for Tribute paid to Britain. IRS Publication 6209

22. The Pope claims to own the entire planet through the laws of Conquest and Discovery. (Ever wonder why an Attorney, who is an Agent of the Pope through the International Bar Association, wants to do ‘discovery with you?) Pap al Bulls of 1495 & 1493

23. The Pope has ordered the genocide and enslavement of Millions of people. Papal Bulls of 1455 & 1493

24. The Pope’s ‘Laws are obligatory on everyone. Bened. XIV., De Syn. Dioec, lib, ix, c. vii., n.4. Prati, 1844 Syllabus prop 28, 29, 44

&nb sp; 25. We are SLAVES and own ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. Not even what we think are ‘our children. Tillman v. Roberts, 108 So. 62 Van Koten v. Van Koten, 154 N.E. 146 Senate Document 43, 73rd Congress 1st Session Wynehammer v. People, 13 N.Y. Rep 378, 481

26. Military Dictator George Washington divided up the States (Estates) into Districts. Messages and Papers of the Presidents, Volume 1 page 99 1828 Dictionary definition of ‘Estate

27. ‘We, The People does NOT include the General Populace, or what you THINK is ‘We, The People. Barron v. Mayor and City Council of Baltimore, 32 U.S. 243

28. It is NOT the ‘duty of the police to protec t you. Their job is to protect THE CORPORATION and arrest Code Breakers. Sapp v. Tallahassee, 348 So.2nd. 363 Reiff v. City of Philla., 477 F.Supp. 1262 Lynch v. NC Dept. of Justice, 376 S.E.2nd. 247

29. Everything in the ‘United States is up For Sale: Bridges, Roads, Water, Schools, Hospitals, Prisons, Airports, etc. Did anybody take time to check who bought Klamath Lake? &nb sp; Executive Order 12803

30. ‘WE are HUMAN CAPITAL. Executive Order 13037

The U.N. has financed the operations of the ‘United States Government for over 50 years and now ‘owns every man, woman, and child in America. The U.N. also holds all of the land of America in Fee Simple.

Why is the above so difficult for most people to understand? Simple: words like ‘perso n, ‘citizen, ‘people, ‘or, ‘nation, ‘is, ‘fact, ‘authority, ‘truth, ‘nation, ‘crime, ‘fraud, ‘charge, ‘right, ‘statute, ‘preferred, ‘assume, ‘prefer, ‘constitutor, ‘creditor, ‘debtor, ‘debit, ‘discharge, ‘payment, ‘law, ‘United States, and hundreds of others do NOT mean what you think they mean and you were never taught the ‘Legal Definitions so you would ‘Understand that you DON’T understand.

Don’t let this information alarm you because without it you cannot be free.

You have to understand that all slavery and freedom originates in the mind.

When your mind allows you to accept and understand that the United States, Great Brittan and the Vatican are Corporations which are nothing but fictional entities which have been placed in your mind, you will understand our slavery is because we believe in fictions. Stephen Ammes, author The Ultimate Delusion

The Illusion is MUCH larger than the irrefutable 30 points above, and the 30 points above are not even the tip of the tip of the iceberg. For more information, see:

www.atgpress.com
www.TheAmericanVoice.com

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=IRS+is+a+Fraud

www.ZeitgeistMovie.com
www.FreedomToFascism.com
http://www.myspace. com/KC7AQK

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=911+Truth+Movement

 

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 15:03 | 2414223 Pladizow
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So file a UCC-1 statement and begin your redemption process!

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 15:21 | 2414294 Money 4 Nothing
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I'm a dual citizen. I wasn't born here. 

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