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Guest Post: Cause, Effects & The Fallacy Of A Return To Normalcy

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Submitted by Jim Quinn of The Burning Platform

Cause, Effects & The Fallacy Of A Return To Normalcy

 “Thousands upon thousands are yearly brought into a state of real poverty by their great anxiety not to be thought of as poor.”Robert Mallett


I hear the term de-leveraging relentlessly from the mainstream media. The storyline that the American consumer has been denying themselves and paying down debt is completely 100% false. The proliferation of this Big Lie has been spread by Wall Street and their mouthpieces in the corporate media. The purpose is to convince the ignorant masses they have deprived themselves long enough and deserve to start spending again. The propaganda being spouted by those who depend on Americans to go further into debt is relentless. The “fantastic” automaker recovery is being driven by 0% financing for seven years peddled to subprime (aka deadbeats) borrowers for mammoth SUVs and pickup trucks that get 15 mpg as gas prices surge past $4.00 a gallon. What could possibly go wrong in that scenario? Furniture merchants are offering no interest, no payment deals for four years on their product lines. Of course, the interest rate from your friends at GE Capital reverts retroactively to 29.99% at the end of four years after the average dolt forgot to save enough to pay off the balance. I’m again receiving two to three credit card offers per day in the mail. According to the Wall Street vampire squids that continue to suck the life blood from what’s left of the American economy, this is a return to normalcy.  

The definition of normal is: “The usual, average, or typical state or condition”. The fallacy is calling what we’ve had for the last three decades of illusion – Normal. Nothing could be further from the truth. We’ve experienced abnormal psychotic behavior by the citizens of this country, aided and abetted by Wall Street and their sugar daddies at the Federal Reserve. You would have to be mad to believe the debt financed spending frenzy of the last few decades was not abnormal.    


The Age of Illusion

“Illusions commend themselves to us because they save us pain and allow us to enjoy pleasure instead. We must therefore accept it without complaint when they sometimes collide with a bit of reality against which they are dashed to pieces.” - Sigmund Freud

In my last article Extend & Pretend Coming to an End, I addressed the commercial real estate debacle coming down the pike. I briefly touched upon the idiocy of retailers who have based their business and expansion plans upon the unsustainable dynamic of an ever expanding level of consumer debt doled out by Wall Street banks. One only has to examine the facts to understand the fallacy of a return to normalcy. We haven’t come close to experiencing normalcy. When retail sales, consumer spending and consumer debt return to a sustainable level of normalcy, the carcasses of thousands of retailers will litter the highways and malls of America. It will be a sight to see. The chart below details the two decade surge in retail sales, with the first ever decline in 2008. Retail sales grew from $2 trillion in 1992 to $4.5 trillion in 2007. The Wall Street created crisis in 2008/2009 resulted in a decline to $4.1 trillion in 2009, but the resilient and still delusional American consumer, with the support of their credit card drug pushers on Wall Street, set a new record in 2011 of $4.7 trillion.       


A two decade increase in retail sales of 135% might seem reasonable and normal if wages and household income had grown at an equal or greater rate. But total wages only grew by 125% over this same time frame. Interestingly, the median household income only grew from $30,600 to $49,500, a 62% increase over twenty years. It seems the majority of the benefits accrued to the top 20%, with their aggregate share of the national income exceeding 50% today, versus 47% in 1992 and 43% in the early 1970s. The top 5% are taking home in excess of 21% of the national income versus less than 19% in 1992 and 16% in the early 1970s. It appears the financialization of America, after Nixon closed the gold window and allowed unlimited money printing by the Federal Reserve, has benefitted the few, at the expense of the many. The bottom 80% of households has seen their share of the national income steadily decrease since the early 1970s. There are 119 million households in the United States and 95 million of these households have seen their wages and income stagnate. One might wonder how the 80% were able to fuel a two decade surge in retail sales with such pathetic wage growth.   


Your friendly Wall Street banker stepped into the breach and did their part to aid a vast swath of Americans to enslave themselves in debt. As the chart above reveals, the slave owners on Wall Street have been the chief beneficiary of the decades long debt deluge. It seems that charging 18% interest on hundreds of billions in credit card debt can be extremely profitable for the shyster charging the interest. Decades of mailing millions of credit card offers, inundating financially ignorant Americans with propaganda media messages convincing them they needed a bigger house, fancier car, or latest technological gadget and creating complex derivatives that permitted banks to market debt to people guaranteed not to pay them back but not care since they sold the packages of these toxic AAA rated loans to pension funds and little old ladies, has done wonders for earnings per share, stock option awards, executive salaries and bonus pools. It hasn’t done wonders for the net worth of the average American who has been entrapped in the chains of debt, forged link by link over decades of purposeful deception and willful delusion.            

The 135% increase in retail sales over two decades may have been slightly enhanced by the 213% increase in consumer credit outstanding. Consumer revolving credit rose from $800 billion to the current level of $2.5 trillion over the last two decades. Those 15 credit cards in our possession were so easy to use that we financed our trips to Dollywood, Sandals, and Euro-Disney, in addition to financing our 72 inch 3D HDTVs, granite countertops, stainless steel appliances, decks, pools, recliners with a built in fridges, home theatre rooms, Coach pocketbooks, Jimmy Cho shoes, Rolex watches, yachts, bigger and better boobs, and of course our smokes and beer. Much has been made about the great de-leveraging by the American consumer. There’s just one inconvenient fact – it hasn’t happened – yet.        


Total consumer credit outstanding peaked at $2.58 trillion in July 2008. Today it stands at $2.50 trillion. Revolving credit card debt peaked at $972 billion in September 2008 and subsequently declined to $790 billion by April 2011. It now stands at $801 billion, as living well beyond our means has resumed its appeal. Meanwhile, non-revolving credit for automobiles, boats, student loans, and mobile homes peaked at $1.61 trillion in July 2008 and “crashed” all the way down to $1.58 trillion in May 2010. Once Bennie fired up the printing presses, the government car companies decided to make subprime auto loans again and the Federal government started doling out student loans like a pez dispenser, all was well in the non-revolving consumer loan world. The debt outstanding has soared to $1.7 trillion, a full $90 billion above the pre-crash peak. So, after three and a half years of “austerity” and supposed deleveraging, consumer debt outstanding has fallen by 3%.

The Big Lie of austerity and consumer deleveraging is unquestioned by the talking heads in the mainstream media. They are incapable or unwilling to examine the actual data which substantiates the fact that Americans have NOT deleveraged and have NOT taken austerity to heart. The most basic facts fly in the face of consumers even having the wherewithal to pay down their debt. Median household income has declined from $50,300 in 2008 to $49,400 today. There are 5 million less people employed today than employed in 2008. Total wages in the country have only grown from $6.6 trillion in 2008 to $6.8 trillion today. This increase was concentrated among the .01%, who do not carry credit card debt. They profit from credit card debt. Real disposable personal income has fallen by 5% since the peak in 2008 as Bernanke’s Wall Street bailout zero interest rate policy has caused prices for everything except our houses to surge. The people carrying most of the credit card debt are the least able to pay it off. These are the same people who have swelled the food stamp rolls from 28 million in 2008 to 46.5 million today.      


A CNBC bubble headed arrogant bimbo might sarcastically ask, “If the American consumer isn’t deleveraging, than how did revolving credit card debt drop by $182 billion over three years?” Rather than do the minimal research needed to find the answer, they would rather parrot the company/government line. The chart below, compiled from Federal Reserve data, provides the answer. The Wall Street banks have written off $193.3 billion of bad debt since 2008. Now for some basic math, that will probably be over the head of most Wall Street analysts and CNBC parrots. If you start with $972 billion of credit card debt and you write-off $200 billion (assuming another $7 billion in the 4th Quarter of 2011) and your ending balance is $801 billion, how much debt did the American consumer pay down? It’s a trick question. The American consumer ADDED $29 billion of credit card debt since 2008 to go along with the $90 billion of auto and student loan debt ADDED onto their aching backs. So much for the deleveraging storyline. It’s comforting to convince ourselves we’ve changed, but we haven’t. And the powers that be need you to keep believing, so they can continue to keep you enslaved and under their thumbs.  

 Consumer Credit Card Debt and Charge-off Data (in Billions):

  Outstanding Revolving Consumer Debt Outstanding Credit Card Debt Quarterly Credit Card Charge-Off Rate Quarterly Credit Card Charge-Off in Dollars
Q3 2011 $793.4 $777.5 5.63% $10.9
Q2 2011 $787.4 $771.7 5.58% $10.8
Q1 2011 $779.6 $764.0 6.96% $13.3
2010 $826.7 $810.2   $75.1
Q4 2010 $825.7 $810.2 7.70% $15.6
Q3 2010 $806.9 $790.8 8.55% $16.9
Q2 2010 $817.4 $801.1 10.97% $22.0
Q1 2010 $828.5 $811.9 10.16% $20.6
2009 $894.0 $876.1   $83.2
Q4 2009 $894.0 $876.1 10.12% $22.2
Q3 2009 $893.5 $875.6 10.1% $22.1
Q2 2009 $905.2 $887.1 9.77% $21.6
Q1 2009 $923.3 $904.8 7.62% $17.2
Q4 2008 $989.1 $969.3    

(Source:, Federal Reserve)

Loving Our Servitude

“There will be, in the next generation or so, a pharmacological method of making people love their servitude, and producing dictatorship without tears, so to speak, producing a kind of painless concentration camp for entire societies, so that people will in fact have their liberties taken away from them, but will rather enjoy it, because they will be distracted from any desire to rebel by propaganda or brainwashing, or brainwashing enhanced by pharmacological methods. And this seems to be the final revolution.” Aldous Huxley

The American people have come to love their servitude through a combination of self- delusion, corporate mass media propaganda, and an irrational desire to appear successful without making the necessary sacrifices required to become successful. The drug of choice used to corral the masses into their painless concentration camp of debt has been Wall Street peddled financing. Can you think of a better business model than being a Wall Street bank? You hand out 500 million credit cards to 118 million households, even though 60 million of the households make less than $50,000. You then create derivatives where you package billions of subprime credit card debt and convince clueless dupes to buy this toxic debt as if it was AAA credit. When the entire Ponzi scheme implodes, you write-off $200 billion of bad debt and have the American taxpayer pick up the tab by having your Ben puppet at the Federal Reserve seize $450 billion of interest income from senior citizens and re-gift it to you through his zero interest rate policy. You then borrow from the Federal Reserve at 0% and charge an average interest rate of 15% on the $800 billion of credit card debt outstanding, generating $120 billion of interest and charging an additional $22 billion of late fees. Much was made of the closing of credit card accounts after the 2008 financial implosion, but most of the accounts closed were old unused credit lines. Now that the American taxpayer has picked up the tab for the 2008 debacle, the Wall Street banks are again adding new credit card accounts.      


With 40% of all credit card users carrying a revolving balance averaging $16,000, they are incurring interest charges of $2,400 per year. Some of the best financial analysts in the blogosphere have been misled by the propaganda spewed by the Wall Street media shills at Bloomberg and CNBC. The following chart, which includes mortgage and home equity debt, gives the false impression households are sensibly deleveraging, as household debt as a percentage of disposable personal income has fallen from 115% in June 2009 to 101% today. As I’ve detailed ad nauseam, $200 billion of the $1.2 trillion of “household deleveraging” was credit card write-offs. The vast majority of the remaining $1 trillion of “deleveraging” could possibly be related to the 5 million completed foreclosures since 2009. Of course, this pales in comparison to the unbelievably foolhardy mortgage equity withdrawal of $3 trillion between 2003 and 2008 by the 1% wannabes.  Bloomberg might be a tad disingenuous by excluding the $1 trillion of student loan from their little chart. If student loan debt is included, household debt outstanding surges to $11.5 trillion.     


Based on the Bloomberg chart you would assume wrongly that American consumers are using their rising incomes to pay down debt. Besides not actually reducing their debts, the disposable personal income figure provided by the government drones at the BEA includes government transfer payments for Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, unemployment compensation, food stamps, veterans benefits, and the all- encompassing “other”. Disposable personal income in the 2nd quarter of 2008 reached $11.2 trillion. It has risen by $500 billion, to $11.7 trillion by the end of 2011. Coincidentally, government social transfers have risen by $400 billion over this same time frame, a 20% increase. Excluding government transfers, disposable personal income has risen by a dreadful 1.1%. For the benefit of the slow witted in the mainstream media, every penny of the social welfare transfers has been borrowed. Only a government bureaucrat could believe that borrowing money from the Chinese, handing it out to unemployed Americans and calling it personal income is proof of deleveraging and austerity.

Household debt as a percentage of wages in 2008 was 185%. Today, after the banks have written off $1.2 trillion of debt, this figure stands at 169%. Meanwhile, total credit market debt in our entire system now stands at an all-time high of $54 trillion, up $3 trillion from 2007. It stands at 360% of GDP. In 1992, total credit market debt of $15.2 trillion equaled 240% of GDP ($6.3 trillion). Was it a sign of a rational balanced economic system that total credit market debt grew by 355% in the last two decades while GDP grew by only 238%? I think it is pretty clear the last two decades have not been normal or built upon a sustainable foundation. In the three decades prior to 1990 household debt as a percentage of disposable personal income stayed in a steady range between 60% and 80%. The current level of 101% is abnormal. In order to achieve a sustainable normal level of 80% will require an additional $2 trillion of debt destruction. No one is prepared for this inevitable end result. The impact of this “real” deleveraging will devastate our consumer dependent society.    


The colossal accumulation of debt in the last two decades was the cause and abnormally large retail sales were the effect. The return to normalcy will not be pleasant for consumers, retailers, mall owners, local governments or bankers.   

Demographics are a Bitch

In addition to an unsustainable level of debt, the pig in the python (also known as the Baby Boomer generation) will relentlessly impact the future of consumer spending and the approaching mass retail closures. Baby Boomers range in age from 51 to 68 today. The chart below details the retail spending by age bracket. Almost 50% of all retail spending is done by those between 35 years old and 54 years old. This makes total sense as these are the peak earnings years for most people and the period in their lives when they are forming households, raising kids and accumulating stuff. As you enter your twilight years, income declines, medical expenses rise, the kids are gone, and you’ve bought all the stuff you’ll ever need. Spending drops precipitously as you enter your 60’s. The spending wave that began in 1990 and reached its apex in the mid-2000s has crested and is going to crash down on the heads of hubristic retail CEOs that extrapolated unsustainable debt financed spending to infinity into their store expansion plans. The added kicker for retailers is the fact Boomers haven’t saved enough for their retirements, have experienced a twelve year secular bear market with another five or ten years to go, are in debt up to their eyeballs, and have seen the equity in their homes evaporate into thin air in the last seven years. This is not a recipe for a spending up swell.   


Demographics cannot be spun by the corporate media or manipulated by BLS government drones. They are factual and unable to be altered. They are also predictable. The four population by age charts below paint a four decade picture of reality that does not bode well for retailers over the coming decade. The population by age data correlates perfectly with the spending spree over the last two decades.   


  • 26% of the population in the prime spending years between 35 and 54 years old.
  • Only 14% of the population over 65 years old indicating reduced spending.


  • 31% of the population in the prime spending years between 35 and 54 years old.
  • Only 13% of the population over 65 years old indicating reduced spending.


  • 28% of the population in the prime spending years between 35 and 54 years old.
  • A rising 14% of the population over 65 years old indicating reduced spending.


  • 24% of the population in the prime spending years between 35 and 54 years old.
  • A rising 17% of the population over 65 years old indicating reduced spending.

The irreversible descent in the percentage of our population in the 35 to 54 year old prime spending age bracket will have and is already having a devastating impact on retail sales. In addition, the young people moving into the 25 to 34 year old bracket are now saddled with $1 trillion of student loan debt and worthless degrees from the University of Phoenix and the other for-profit diploma mills, luring millions with their Federal government easy loan programs. The fact that 40% of all 20 to 24 year olds in the country are not employed and 26% of all 25 to 34 year olds in the country are not working may also play a role in holding back spending, as jobs are somewhat helpful in generating money to buy stuff. Even with Obama as President they will have a tough time getting onto the unemployment rolls without ever having a job. The 55 and over crowd, who have lived above their means for three decades, will be lucky if they have the resources to put Alpo on the table in the coming years. The unholy alliance of debt, demographics and delusion will result in a retail debacle of epic proportions, unseen by retail head honchoes and the linear thinkers in the media and government.  

We’re Not in Kansas Anymore Toto

“We tell ourselves we’re in an economic recovery, meaning we expect to return to a prior economic state, namely, a turbo-charged “consumer” economy fueled by easy credit and cheap energy. Fuggeddabowdit. That part of our history is over. We’ve entered a contraction that will seem permanent until we reach an economic re-set point that comports with what the planet can actually provide for us. That re-set point is lower than we would like to imagine. Our reality-based assignment is the intelligent management of contraction. We don’t want this assignment. We’d prefer to think that things are still going in the other direction, the direction of more, more, more. But they’re not. Whether we like it or not, they’re going in the direction of less, less, less. Granted, this is not an easy thing to contend with, but it is the hand that circumstance has dealt us. Nobody else is to blame for it.” – Jim Kunstler


The brilliant retail CEOs who doubled and tripled their store counts in the last twenty years and assumed they were geniuses as sales soared are getting a cold hard dose of reality today. What they don’t see is an abrupt end to their dreams of ever expanding profits and the million dollar bonuses they have gotten used to. I’m pretty sure their little financial models are not telling them they will need to close 20% of their stores over the next five years. They will be clubbed over the head like a baby seal by reality as consumers are compelled to stop consuming. As we’ve seen, just a moderation in spending has resulted in a collapse in store profitability. Retail CEOs have failed to grasp that it wasn’t their brilliance that led to the sales growth, but it was the men behind the curtain at the Federal Reserve. The historic spending spree of the last two decades was simply the result of easy to access debt peddled by Wall Street and propagated by the easy money policies of Alan Greenspan and Ben Bernanke. The chickens came home to roost in 2008, but the Wizard of Debt – Bernanke – has attempted to keep the flying monkeys at bay with his QE1, QE2, Operation Twist, and ZIRP. As the economy goes down for the count again in 2012, he will be revealed as a doddering old fool behind the curtain.

There are 1.1 million retail establishments in the United States, but the top 25 mega-store national chains account for 25% of all the retail sales in the country. The top 100 retailers operate 243,000 stores and account for approximately $1.6 trillion in sales, or 36% of all the retail sales in the country. They are led by the retail behemoth Wal-Mart and they dot the suburban landscape from Maine to Florida and New York to California. These super stores anchor every major mall in America. There are power centers with only these household names jammed in one place (example near my home: Best Buy, Target, Petsmart, Dicks, Barnes & Noble, Staples). These national chains had already wiped out the small town local retailers by the early 2000s as they sourced their goods from China and dramatically underpriced the small guys. The remaining local retailers have been closing up shop in record numbers in the last few years as the ability to obtain financing evaporated and customers disappeared. The national chains have more staying power, but their blind hubris and inability to comprehend the future landscape will be their downfall.

Having worked for one of the top 100 retailers for 14 years, I understand every aspect of how these mega-chains operate. They all approach retailing from a very scientific manner. They have regression models to project sales based upon demographics, drive times, education, average income, and the size of the market. They will build any store that achieves a certain ROI, based on their models. The scientific method works well when you don’t make ridiculous growth assumptions and properly take into account what your competitors are doing and how the economy will realistically perform in the future years. This is where it goes wrong as these retail chains get bigger, start believing their press clippings and begin ignoring the warnings of sober realists within their organizations. When the models show that cannibalization of sales from putting stores too close together will result in a decline in profits, the CEO will tweak the model to show greater same store growth and a larger increase in the available market due to higher economic growth. They assume margins will increase based upon nothing. At the same time, they will ignore the fact their competitor is building a store 2 miles away. Eventually, using foolhardy assumptions and ignoring facts leads to declining sales and profitability.

There is no better example of this than Best Buy. They increased their U.S. store count from 500 in 2002 to 1,300 today. That is a 160% increase in store count. For some perspective, national retail sales grew by 42% over this same time frame. Their strategy wiped out thousands of mom and pop stores and drove their chief competitor – Circuit City – into liquidation. But their hubris caught up to them. There sales per store has plummeted from $36 million per store in 2007 to less than $28 million per store today, a 24% decline in just five years. They have cannibalized themselves and have seen a $6 billion increase in revenue lead to $100 million LESS in profits. It appears the 444 stores they have built since 2007 have a net negative ROI. Top management is now in full scramble mode as they refuse to admit their strategic errors. Instead they cut staff and use upselling gimmicks like service plans, technical support and deferred financing to try and regain profitability. They will not admit they have far too many stores until it is too late. They will follow the advice of an earnings per share driven Wall Street crowd and waste their cash buying back stock. We’ve seen this story before and it ends in tears. I was in a Best Buy last week at 6:00 pm and there were at least 50 employees servicing about 10 customers. Tick Tock.           

 Best Buy - Annual Store Count Growth 

Best Buy - Annual Sales per Store

You would have to be blind to not have noticed the decade long battles between the two biggest drug store chains and the two biggest office supply chains. Walgreens and CVS have been in a death struggle as they have each increased their store counts by 80% to 90% in the last 10 years. Both chains have been able to mask poor existing store growth by opening new stores. They are about to hit the wall. I now have six drug stores within five miles of my house all selling the exact same products. Every Wal-Mart and Target has their own pharmacy. At 2:00 pm on a Sunday afternoon I walked into the Walgreens near my house and there were six employees, a pharmacist and myself in the store. This is a common occurrence in this one year old store. It will not reach its 3rd birthday.  

 Walgreens - Annual Store Count Growth 

CVS - Annual Retail Store Growth

Further along on the downward death spiral are Staples and Office Depot. They both increased their store counts by 50% to 60% in the last decade. Despite adding almost 200 stores since 2007, Staples has managed to reduce their profits. Sales per store have declined by 20% since 2006. Office Depot has succeeded in losing almost $2 billion in the last five years. These fools are actually opening new stores again despite overseeing a 36% decrease in sales per store over the last decade. These stores sell paper clips, paper, pens, and generic crap you can purchase at 100,000 other stores across the land or with a click of you mouse. Their business concept is dying and they don’t know it or refuse to acknowledge it.

 Staples - Annual Store Count Growth 

Office Depot - Annual Store Count Growth

Even well run retailers such as Kohl’s and Bed Bath & Beyond have hit the proverbial wall. Remember that total retail sales have only grown by 42% in the last ten years while Kohl’s has increased their store count by 180% and Bed Bath & Beyond has increased their store count by 175%. Despite opening 200 new stores since 2007, Kohl’s profits are virtually flat. Sales per store have deflated by 26% over the last decade as over-cannibalization has worked its magic. Bed Bath & Beyond has managed to keep profits growing as they drove Linens & Things into bankruptcy, but they risk falling into the Best Buy trap as they continue to open new stores. Their sales per store are well below the levels of 2002. Again, there is very little differentiation between these retailers as they all sell cheap crap from Asia, sold at thousands of other stores across the country. With home formation stagnant, where will the growth come from? Answer: It won’t come at all.

 Kohl's - Annual Store Count Growth 

Bed Bath & Beyond - Annual Store Count Growth

The stories above can be repeated over and over when analyzing the other mega-retailers that dominate our consumer crazed society. Same store sales growth is stagnant. The major chains have over cannibalized themselves. Their growth plans were based upon a foundation of ever increasing consumer debt and ever more delusional Americans spending money they don’t have. None of these retailers has factored a contraction in consumer spending into their little models. But that is what is headed their way. They saw the tide go out in 2009 but they’ve ventured back out into the surf looking for some trinkets, not realizing a tsunami is on the way. The great contraction began in 2008 and has been proceeding in fits and starts for the last four years. The increase in retail sales over the last two years has been driven by inflation, not increased demand. The efforts of the Federal Reserve and Wall Street to reignite our consumer society by pushing subprime debt once more will ultimately fail – again. The mega-retailers will be forced to come to the realization they have far too many stores to meet a diminishing demand.

The top 100 mega-retailers operate 243,000 stores. Will our contracting civilization really need or be able to sustain 14,000 McDonalds, 17,000 Taco Bells & KFCs, 24,000 Subways, 9,000 Wendys, 7,000 7-11s, 8,000 Walgreens, 7,000 CVS’, 4,000 Sears & Kmarts, 11,000 Starbucks, 4,000 Wal-Marts, 1,700 Lowes and 1,800 Targets in five years?  As our economy contracts and more of our dwindling disposable income is directed towards rising energy and food costs, retailers across the land will shut their doors. Try to picture the impact on this country as these retailers are forced to close 50,000 stores. Where will recent college graduates and broke Baby Boomers work? The most profitable business of the future will be producing Space Available and For Lease signs. Betting on the intelligence of the American consumer has been a losing bet for decades. They will continue to swipe that credit card at the local 7-11 to buy those Funions, jalapeno cheese stuffed pretzels with a side of cheese dipping sauce, cartons of smokes, and 32 ounce Big Gulps of Mountain Dew until the message on the credit card machine comes back DENIED.  

There will be crescendo of consequences as these stores are closed down. The rotting hulks of thousands of Sears and Kmarts will slowly decay; blighting the suburban landscape and beckoning criminals and the homeless. Retailers will be forced to lay-off hundreds of thousands of workers. Property taxes paid to local governments will dry up, resulting in worsening budget deficits. Sales taxes paid to state governments will plummet, forcing more government cutbacks and higher taxes. Mall owners and real estate developers will see their rental income dissipate. They will then proceed to default on their loans. Bankers will be stuck with billions in loan losses, at least until they are able to shift them to the American taxpayer – again. No politician, media pundit, Federal Reserve banker, retail CEO, or willfully ignorant mindless consumer wants to admit the truth that the last three decades of debt delusion are coming to a tragic bitter end. The smarmy acolytes of Edward Bernays on Wall Street and in corporate America have successfully used propaganda and misinformation to lure generations of weak minded people into debt servitude. But, at the end of the day, you need cash to service the debt. Mind control doesn’t pay the bills.  We will eventually return to normal, just not the normal many had in mind.

“If we understand the mechanism and motives of the group mind, it is now possible to control and regiment the masses according to our will without them knowing it.” – Edward Bernays


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Tue, 03/06/2012 - 18:22 | 2230076 tsx500
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wildly bullish, just like everything else.


Tue, 03/06/2012 - 18:53 | 2230175 SilverIsKing
Tue, 03/06/2012 - 22:15 | 2230760 spiral_eyes
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All the hopium the mainstream media spew out is based on bad projections with faulty assumptions.

Like the idea that interest rates are going to be low until we have a real recovery. 


Tue, 03/06/2012 - 22:46 | 2230837 AldousHuxley
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Chomsky's World Orders Old and New offers a vast array of scholarly documentation to prove his overriding and stunningly accurate thesis: American foreign policy is embarked upon for the benefit of the transnational corporations and wealthy Wall Street investors. The State Department, Pentagon, CIA and corporate owned media are their tools and propaganda apparatus to dominate the world's land, labor and resources.




Tue, 03/06/2012 - 23:37 | 2230973 CH1
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Chomshy is a lying, manipulative asshole... right or wrong.

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 01:14 | 2231106 TruthInSunshine
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I am digging Quinn's stuff lately, including his last missive on commercial real estate. He's just knocking it out of the park.

This is my domain, and I'm just telling everyone here that he's shooting as straight as an arrow and on target.

I really don't think many people realize just how dire of a situation brick & mortar retailers are facing going forward. There's no way out for them, really, nor their lenders (or in the case of publicly traded companies, shareholders).

With very few exceptions, in very few locations, there's going to be the greatest culling of brick & mortar stores over the next decade than at any time since....I honestly don't know, as it may be unprecedented.

I'm not exaggerating. If anyone here attends the Vegas ICSC Convention, the numbers in terms of gross sales per square foot, which is the holy grail of retailing metrics, are simply in a state of freefall.

Online retailers have killed brick & mortar, and are now compressing brick & mortar stores even further as the pool of buyers ready, willing and able to buy incremental 'stuff' shrinks as a corollary with a massive deleveraging cycle now underway (that easily could last another decade).

If people knew the numbers on the re-sale of foreclosed big box stores in power centers, or the new lease rates negotiated with the remaining anchor tenants, you'd think I was lying to you.

Commercial real estate (big box and especially malls), office, industrial, and residential real estate; the shit storm hasn't even hit yet. The 2nd wave is absolutely coming.

Just wait and see what some of the artificially pumped up share prices of brick and mortar retailers do over the next year. There's a bubble so large in there it's hard to adequately describe without being erroneously accused of hyperbole.

Brickk & mortar is generating cash flow right now by blowing out merchandise at massive discounting. They need cash flow to pay operating expenses (and to pad their quarterly figures), and that strategy can only work for so long in terms of keeping the wolves at bay.

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 01:23 | 2231152 prains
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don't forget light industrial square footage either, the sheer amount of square footage on the boards where I'm at is mind numbing. when the commercial and light industrial bubble goes it is game over.

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 01:37 | 2231185 rosiescenario
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Great article....and as this progresses there will be lower property tax revenues and lower sales tax revenues to be addressed by our state governments (like here in CA) who are having trouble now making ends meet. They think things are going to "get better" meaning we will move backwards in time, but things are just going to get more different as we move forwards in time.


The other factor playing in the retail arena is the internet, of course. Aside from hurting the brick and mortar players, the internet contains within itself a virus which destroys any sort of reasonable margins needed to maintain profitability. When one can mouse around swiftly to compare prices and go to the lowest, margins get eroded. As the consumer is forced to cut back more and more on spending, internet retailers will try to keep sales up through price competition which will be instantly visible to the now strapped consumer who is highly motivated to save every penny. What are already miserable margins at even the largest internet sales companies are going to contract further. Eventually the state governments (strapped for cash by declining property and sales taxes from the brick and mortar retailers) will find a way to tax internet sales made within their states.


We are going to be witnessing a real sea change here in the U.S. It may even become quite fashionable to not consume, to drive an old car, not wear the latest Nikes, Rolexes, and the like.



Wed, 03/07/2012 - 00:18 | 2231036 Kaiser Doomheiser
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I've read that book several times. I have about 20 books by Chomsky, but "World Orders Old and New" is one of the best. It was written pre-9/11, but the institutional factors driving US domestic and foreign policy have not changed. It's all about more power and wealth for the few, and misery for everyone else. Gangsters rule...same as it ever was.

Tue, 03/06/2012 - 19:27 | 2230278 max2205
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Good read but factor in at least 2k savings per month NOT paying your mortgage and you can see how this has been sustained and that it could go on a lot longer than I can afford to short SHLD

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 00:25 | 2231048 Midas
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So I'm not the only one thinking about shorting SHLD! I haven't pulled the trigger yet, but it is getting tempting.

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 03:29 | 2231323 TruthInSunshine
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max - the days of the 'allocate what would have been our mortgage payment' to highly discretionary (and non-discretionary) items are drawing close to an endwith the fraudclosure settlement on the horizon, barring a surprising upset of that bankster gravy by the highly political, bankster loving SCOTUS.

Tue, 03/06/2012 - 22:19 | 2230769 watmann
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while many think the economy is doing so well because of the reported increases in consumer debt I caution all readers to beware that these reports reflect more and more amounts that are actually business using charge cards to access additionla credit or obtain rewards points from credit card companies. These numbers are ot all new consumer purchases. In fact many credit card companies now pay rebates of 1 to 1 1/2% of the amount charged back to the charging entitiy.

Tue, 03/06/2012 - 22:19 | 2230770 watmann
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while many think the economy is doing so well because of the reported increases in consumer debt I caution all readers to beware that these reports reflect more and more amounts that are actually business using charge cards to access additionla credit or obtain rewards points from credit card companies. These numbers are ot all new consumer purchases. In fact many credit card companies now pay rebates of 1 to 1 1/2% of the amount charged back to the charging entitiy.

Tue, 03/06/2012 - 22:58 | 2230876 Gully Foyle
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Two for those who care.

$1B of TSA Nude Body Scanners Made Worthless By Blog — How Anyone Can Get Anything Past The Scanners

( Nice video showing how scanners are easily beaten)

As a scientist, engineer, and frequent traveler, as well as the first
person to sue the TSA when they rolled out the scanners as primary in
Nov. 2010, I studied and learned about both kinds of scanners currently
in use by the TSA. Here are several images produced by TSA nude body
scanners. You’ll see that the search victim is drawn with light colors
and placed on a black background in both images. In these samples, the
individuals are concealing metallic objects that you can see as a black
shape on their light figure. Again that’s light figure, black
background, and BLACK threat items. Yes that’s right, if you have a
metallic object on your side, it will be the same color as the
background and therefore completely invisible to both visual and
automated inspection.

It can’t possibly be that easy to beat the TSA’s billion dollar fleet
of nude body scanners, right? The TSA can’t be that stupid, can they?

Unfortunately, they can, and they are. To put it to the test, I
bought a sewing kit from the dollar store, broke out my 8th grade home
ec skills, and sewed a pocket directly on the side of a shirt. Then I
took a random metallic object, in this case a heavy metal carrying case
that would easily alarm any of the “old” metal detectors, and walked
through a backscatter x-ray at Fort Lauderdale-Hollywood International
Airport. On video, of course. While I’m not about to win any
videography awards for my hidden camera footage, you can watch as I walk
through the security line with the metal object in my new side pocket.
My camera gets placed on the conveyer belt and goes through its own
x-ray, and when it comes out, I’m through, and the object never left my

Maybe a fluke? Ok, let’s try again at Cleveland-Hopkins
International Airport through one of the TSA’s newest machines: a
millimeter wave scanner with automated threat detection built-in. With
the metallic object in my side pocket, I enter the security line, my
device goes through its own x-ray, I pass through, and exit with the
object without any complaints from the TSA.

While I carried the metal case empty, by one with mal-intent, it
could easily have been filled with razor blades, explosives, or one of
Charlie Sheen’s infamous 7 gram rocks of cocaine. With a bigger pocket,
perhaps sewn on the inside of the shirt, even a firearm could get
through. It’s important to note that any metal object of any size can
use this technique. …and I don’t urge you to try to bring contraband
through security, as the nude body scanners often have false positives:
so while the metal on your side might get through, a button on your
shirt or a sweaty armpit might “look suspicious” and earn you a pat down

Controversy after US gov’t estimate showed 40,000 microsievert
thyroid dose for California infants from Fukushima — Data not released
to public — “Very high doses to children”
Wed, 03/07/2012 - 02:28 | 2231261 Joseph Jones
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Sold to the USA by ex-Homeland Security Chief, dual citizen (Israel of course), Chabad Lubavitch member (the most evil, caustic branch of Orthodox Judaism), and ex-federal prosecutor who illegally sent Congressman James Trafficant to prison for speaking against Israel) Michael Chertoff.

Europe banned those same scanners because they are carcinogenic.



Wed, 03/07/2012 - 04:02 | 2231370 Yes We Can. But...
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I travel alot, opt for the patdown every time. TSA hates this. No rads for me, thanks.

Tue, 03/06/2012 - 18:36 | 2230079 DavidPierre
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We’re Not in Kansas Anymore SmokeyQuinn

"If we understand the mechanism and motives of the group mind, it is now possible to control and regiment the masses according to our will without them knowing it."

The proliferation of the 9/11 Big Lie has been spread by you and other mouthpieces in the corporate media. The purpose is to convince the ignorant masses.

The Boomer propaganda being spouted by those who depend upon 'divide and conquer' politics shows your ameriKlan ignorance is relentless.

 Nothing could be further from the truth.

The USSA has experienced abnormal psychotic blogging by the citizens of this Fascist country, aided and abetting in the Offal-cial 9/11 cover-up.

Tell us something we don't already know. Enough with the charts and graphs and regurgitated stories of economic Doom.

 Occam's Razor... Bitch!

Lex Parsimoniae !

Till then... Ignorance is Your Strength

9/11 Is the LitmusTest for Bloggers

Tue, 03/06/2012 - 19:40 | 2230325 James T. Kirk
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I totally agree with the "litmus test" view of 9/11. And this is only one area of mass delusion. I have come to conceptualize the various engineered worldwide mass delusions in terms of Colen Powell's fameous presentation prior to Desert Storm, when he spoke about all the "tools in the toolbox" of American firepower. Only now, its all the "delusions" currently in the toolbox of the NWO. The NWO has overwhelming delusional firepower to do just about whatever they want at this point. Crash the economy in 5 seconds? No problem. Land a UFO in Central Park? How about three? Cause a mass plague next Sunday? Etc, etc. I just keep wondering what is stopping them. God? It can't be Anyone else restraining this level of evil.

Tue, 03/06/2012 - 22:34 | 2230450 Doña K
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Back to normalcy. Very true! But normalcy as it was before the industrial revolution.

Tue, 03/06/2012 - 21:27 | 2230492 DavidPierre
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The 'level of evil' I've witnessed over the past 50 years ... JFK... Vietnam... MLK... RFK... has escalated to the point of 9/11 and beyond.  WAR AND TERROR is now official USSA policy worldwide.  'All their power is derived from the barrel of a gun'.

SmokeyQuinn, like so many others, is just blowing smoke up ignorant ameriKlan assholes with his charts, graphs and limitless bullshit articles.  There are no 'Markets'.  'Economics' is a dead issue.  Quinn is a glorified bookkeeper, a tallyman for the empire; a clerk.

I tried reasoning with him years ago and quickly learned not argue with a MORONIC LIAR.  He will bring you down to his level and beat you with experience!

Tue, 03/06/2012 - 21:29 | 2230645 James T. Kirk
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Totally agree that there are no markets. It's all bullshit, only held together by universal greed yolked with delusion.

I do not care for "experts" in only one mass delusion, who refuse to explore and/or acknowledge the existence of other simultaneous mass delusions being perpetrated by the NWO and their ilk. It's like a cottage industry or something, this practice of jealously guarding your own snapshot of the unfolding planetary catastrophe, in order to wring out the last fiat dollar that can be extracted from marketing your own limited version of the great delusion. This is a battle being waged against humanity with multiple weapons on multiple fronts and in multiple dimensions. Literally. ZH should be viewed as a multidisciplinary graduate school in detecting all forms of delusion. Buckle up.

Tue, 03/06/2012 - 23:25 | 2230953 Caviar Emptor
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Supporting evidence for your argument: near record rally in stocks (double in 3 years), but Wall Street revenues in steep decline (as Tyler has posted here on ZH tonight). Sharp rallies have always yielded even sharper WS profits in the past. But we're not in KS anymore

Tue, 03/06/2012 - 23:40 | 2230982 Pinch
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I just keep wondering what is stopping them. God?

It's Jeebus. I know because he told me.

Tue, 03/06/2012 - 21:01 | 2230573 Jim Quinn
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Forgot to take your lithium again you nutjob?

You're a broken record spouting the same drivel on every thread because no one in your family will listen to you anymore.

Back to the barn.


Tue, 03/06/2012 - 21:32 | 2230615 DavidPierre
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Before returning 'back to the barn' for your nightly post-coital tristesse with that fat, oily and wooly ewe so lovingly named 'Avalon': it would be best for you review your assignment for 'special class'.

Eagerly looking forward to your next 9/11 contribution on ZH explaining all of the many offal-cia-l mysteries.

your pal


Tue, 03/06/2012 - 21:39 | 2230660 SillySalesmanQu...
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Hi there Dave, why don"t you you DP your brain...? That's Double Penetrate with a .44 slug, a word that you should be familiar with...slug.

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 00:23 | 2231044 DavidPierre
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"... you you..."


Go play with your yo yo!

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 00:33 | 2231061 SillySalesmanQu...
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Piss Off ya wanker! I fart in your general direction...

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 00:39 | 2231075 DavidPierre
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Better go change your Depends.

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 01:17 | 2231136 SillySalesmanQu...
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Here's some Kleenex to wipe of that glazed doughnut glaze around your mouth DP boy...

P.S. It's dripping on your shoes...eeeeewwwwww.

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 08:57 | 2231616 Jim Quinn
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I understand you have been nominated for lunatic troll of the year on ZH.

You have some stiff competition from the unibomber - Ted Kowzinski.

Instead of a gold statue, you win a picture of Building 7 signed by Larry Silverstein.

Back to the barn you hateful American traitor hiding in the backwoods of Canada. Didn't you hear the news? Jimmy Carter pardoned all you yellow bellied pussies.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 04:28 | 2235154 Bringin It
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Just explain how Bldg#7 came down again.  I need a laugh today.


Tue, 03/06/2012 - 21:34 | 2230654 SillySalesmanQu...
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I thought it was another great post Jim, Thank You! So, when do we start shorting all of these frame? Thanks again.

Tue, 03/06/2012 - 21:56 | 2230713 skepticCarl
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A rambling, semi-coherent, off-topic comment is a litmus test for a useless poster.

Tue, 03/06/2012 - 18:23 | 2230081 BennyBoy
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Does anybody have a link long version of this article?

Tue, 03/06/2012 - 18:27 | 2230091 Conman
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First link above the aritcle.

Tue, 03/06/2012 - 18:33 | 2230105 DavidPierre
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Fixed it for you!

Tue, 03/06/2012 - 18:51 | 2230163 JohnKozac
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Excellent article explaining what I see "on the ground." Great stores like Kohls are unable to sell clothes unless they are at least 60% off....mall store closings springing up like weeds and stay empty or replaced by some junk store.

Great explanation about "deleveraging." I don;t see many people paying down debts...however, i do see them simply not paying at all! Like the defaulters in yesterdays ZH edition who are living in a $1+ million house and have never paid their mortgage. Granted, most people actually started paying with no intention of being a fraudulent deadbeat; but when they see the widespread fraud on Wall Street and in DC, they follow the leaders and do the same. It's human nature.

CEOs are short term thinkers and like bankers they take profits based on this quarters profits so why care about next guy? It's the new morality and it's not pretty no matter how much lipstick you put on it.

Tue, 03/06/2012 - 20:04 | 2230409 Doña K
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The reason that the executives can not see ahead and at least downsize, is first their ego and then: "it's the shareholders money".

Tue, 03/06/2012 - 21:30 | 2230646 chubbar
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They aren't paying down debts because they factored every penny they were earning into monthly payments for one doodah or another. People are living paycheck to paycheck trying to maintain a lifestyle they were accustomed to when they were refi-ing their house every 6 months to pull 25K out of equity. It is going to be a hard crash and sudden stop for the economy. When that happens it is going to be chaos.

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 05:41 | 2231438 StychoKiller
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It's a pity that these "Grasshoppers" are gonna drag down all the "Ants" too! :>(

Tue, 03/06/2012 - 21:42 | 2230671 Surly Bear
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+1, yeah, FFS holy wall of text, Batman! I'd love to sit and read, but I have to iron a shirt for tomorrow. Some of us still believe we can make a difference in our little, pathetic lives.



Tue, 03/06/2012 - 18:25 | 2230089 Spastica Rex
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"Normal" will continue, but for an ever smaller group of people. This minority will continue to be described as "middle class" and the "economy" will continue to"improve" for them. 

Tue, 03/06/2012 - 18:42 | 2230135 Hugo Chavez
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And the shrinking middle class will be gouged for more and more taxes. Fook that shiat. I would rather retire early than be taken advantage of.

Tue, 03/06/2012 - 23:50 | 2230994 sangell
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That's what I did. The only folks who are going to get those promised public pensions are the ones that get there first. Took mine at 58 when I realized it was only 58% funded. The timeservers and believers who imagine they are going to get 70% of their final salary at 65? Good luck.

Tue, 03/06/2012 - 22:19 | 2230767 Ricky Bobby
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Spastica .. Your short post contains one fricking ton of Genius!

Tue, 03/06/2012 - 23:26 | 2230954 Caviar Emptor
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Musical chairs...with just one chair

Tue, 03/06/2012 - 18:30 | 2230098 Dermasolarapate...
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"The Australian services index contracted in a big way last month. Anything under 50 means the sector is shrinking - and in February it was at 46.7, plummeting down from a barely expansionary 51.9 in January. The 'employment measure' figure dropped from 51.2 to 47.5. Sales and new orders also fell by a similar amount."

As The Daily Reckoning implies, the next blowout will be worse then 2008 since China and Australia are now Mega- RE Bubbles.

Here's more from them (ie, The DR):

“…new homes sales in Australia crashed by a record monthly fall of 7.3% in January. The monthly fall in new sales was not a one off, and is part of a trend. Multi-unit sales have been smashed 25.1% if you compare sales over the last three months to the same period in 2011.”


"It looks increasingly like Australian property could face the same dose of salts that has affected nearly every other property market in the world in the last few years."

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 11:58 | 2232262 Jivus Heed
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Hey, can you link to that? Also, where are you getting your info from about Oz? My MIL is one of the top RE agents in Australia but has definitely been struggling the past few years. Been wondering where to get reliable economic info about Australia (not the MSM propaganda BS), any ideas?

Tue, 03/06/2012 - 18:35 | 2230110 JPM Hater001
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I wish I had something to add but I'm going to go roll up in the fetal position.

Tue, 03/06/2012 - 18:40 | 2230131 Irish66
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suck you thumb...soothing

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 01:34 | 2231179 Nassim
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fecal position?

Tue, 03/06/2012 - 18:36 | 2230115 Darkness
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Anyone want to sumerize this? It was way to long for me to actually read from top to bottom. 

Tue, 03/06/2012 - 18:38 | 2230119 DavidPierre
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Tue, 03/06/2012 - 18:44 | 2230145 RSloane
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We be fucked. The end.

Tue, 03/06/2012 - 20:01 | 2230398 Seer
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No, THE SYSTEM is FUCKED.  One can draw conclusions as to what this means from there...

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 00:49 | 2231077 Harbanger
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You, us, we, they,...Can I please just get a box labeled me.

Tue, 03/06/2012 - 19:12 | 2230232 Dr. Kananga
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Real wages have declined over the past 40 years and we've papered over the problem with extending credit to make up the diff. Then it became fashionable for citizens to spend like drunken members of congress using all this new credit. This caused a boom in retail. Now everyone is broke, there's a lot of empty or soon to be empty stores, and people think gay marriage and birth control are the problem and that Ron Paul is the crazy one.

Tue, 03/06/2012 - 19:20 | 2230265 SteveGennisonBa...
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perfect summary.

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 11:14 | 2232061 Crisismode
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Come the revolution, this quote should be tattooed on the forehead of every Bankster in the country.



Tue, 03/06/2012 - 20:31 | 2230493 El Oregonian
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Good Dr., who's going to pay all the future debts if there is no offspring?

Tue, 03/06/2012 - 22:10 | 2230755 Yes We Can. But...
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Do you have a mirror handy?

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 00:28 | 2231056 cranky-old-geezer
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Good Dr., who's going to pay all the future debts if there is no offspring?

It won't be paid back.  The currency will collpase instead.

Tue, 03/06/2012 - 21:45 | 2230677 SymforniX
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...and there will come a day when the masses realize they have been lied to.

This day will occur shortly after their government benefits (in whatever form) run out.

On this day, recalled in infamy, civilized life in the "land our forefathers conquered" will be forgotten; in turn, each individual will be forced to make character-defining choices in matters of life and death. And they will be changed forever, having been ushered into the New American Nightmare®

Tue, 03/06/2012 - 19:32 | 2230288 Yardfarmer
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Quinn's posts are truly one of the few gifts to be bestowed on complete illiteracy. "sumerize"? bwahahahahaha!

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 03:04 | 2231311 Vlad Tepid
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While you're laughing at his occasional spelling and grammatical errors, we're all scratching our heads trying to figure out where you learned diction:  "one of the few gifts to be bestowed on complete illiteracy."

Tue, 03/06/2012 - 18:39 | 2230123 Hugo Chavez
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I am just gonna leave the country someday. Pretty young putas beckon me in south america. I can be a super duper sugar daddy with a thousand dollar a month allowance. I kinda like feudalism if I am the lord.

I can already get a retirement visa for most countries down there past the age of forty five. As soon as i get my kids thru college I am going galt. I dont even fuckin recognize the ussa any longer. For real freedom and a little chaos (gotta take the good with the bad) head south.

Tue, 03/06/2012 - 18:50 | 2230167 RSloane
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I don't know if you've ever lived outside of the US. There are a lot of things, both cultural and not, that you are going to have to get used to very quickly. I don't know anything about you, but before you move south I strongly urge you to consider the East, or at least go there for an extended vacation before you make up your mind, if you haven't already.

Tue, 03/06/2012 - 20:38 | 2230513 Implicit simplicit
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I considerede such a move, but I want to be around for my adult children as they live their lives, and have their own families. Changing places might be nice in itself, but I would miss my family.

Tue, 03/06/2012 - 22:06 | 2230733 Conor
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IS, nicely stated.  I share same sentiments.  And I worry very much for my children.


Wed, 03/07/2012 - 02:39 | 2231275 cranky-old-geezer
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I considerede such a move, but I want to be around for my adult children as they live their lives, and have their own families.

Suit yourself, but you may die with them.


Wed, 03/07/2012 - 03:08 | 2231320 Vlad Tepid
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Your adult kids should be around for you...not the other way around. They are adults...Just sayin'...

Tue, 03/06/2012 - 22:09 | 2230746 I am a Man I am...
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i just got back from costa rica, i could kill a few months out of the year down there

Tue, 03/06/2012 - 23:17 | 2230937 oldman
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If you bring generosity and culture(read as GRACE), you will be OK, but not welcome here. Most of the US citizens that have come over the last four years are basically poor white trash with what is left of the proceeds of a lucky real estae sale.

The locals are sick of these rednecks because they are trying to run their games of greed and fear on a culture that lives day to day and now cannot even afford to rent a place to live because the yankees have driven rents so high.

I am back in a village that I lived in for a couple of years 15 years ago and my friends who were born here are forming 'Defensa de la Cultura' comites to save what remains of the local culture. I saw this happen 18 years ago in another South American village and it only stopped with the killing of a foreign friend of mine. 

Anyway, this is just a note to let you know that all is not as it seems. A local friend of mine asked recntly, 'Viejo, why don't the 'americans' change, don't they know how disliked they are?'

I told her the truth, 'They just won't---they don't care whether anyone likes them or not, they are that drunk on their own 'power and wealth.'

I don't know if this is true or not, and certainly not all who come here are in that category, but most are. They refuse to learn the language, respect the customs, or the religious beliefs, and constantly haggle over pennies. These are not nice people, and, in the US, are people I would only nod or wave a hand at, not open a conversation as they have nothing to say except to parrot the last thing they read on the web or saw on fox or cnn.

We have too many Galts here alredy with their arms, water, food, survival shit----all unneccesary in this culture where no one has ever been allowed to starve for lack of a helping hand from one of us. This culture is deep in compassion and and sympathy. For me, it reminds me of the US about forty years ago.

So, if you are looking for 'Pretty young putas'. please stay home and fuck your daughter.

We have enough locals who can only 'PAY for a piece', to take care of our pretty young putas who only work because they have children to feed and no social assistance.

And if you have a lot of good ideas for the local folk---keep them to yourself because our people have the same ideas and dreams as everyone else. It is their nation that I am a guest in for 'indefinitely', as it says on my ID card and visa, and while they welcome what little financial support that I can afford to give them, they just need my support to correct the deficiencies of the governments they vote in and then throw out----these are real people and I love them.

The chaos you mention is the result of true democracy and free expression here. And yes, we are occasionally punished for our rashness, and----------------------so what?

I see you have 15 greens and this is why I have taken the time to comment to yours---and the 15 greens-----you are buying trouble for yourselves by coming here with the attitude posted above, and I say, 'Fuck you and anyone else who believes the myth you wrote.

We don't want the type you describe in our society---we are already full up!

Respectfully,        om

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 00:39 | 2231076 candyman
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i feel the same way about the illegal aliens moving here to the us

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 01:40 | 2231188 oldman
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Thank you because I am an immigrant here in South America.

And I also, now, understand what this means, personally.

There is a big difference, however, when immigrants who 'retire' in another country as GUESTS elect to compete with locals in a nation whose average income is under $500 per month in a dollarized economy where foreign exchange in surplus is required to manage the economy.

The problem here is, if I can explain it properly, that US citizens come in with pensions, support from family members, and saved funds to BID UP rents and property prices dislocating the sons and daughters of the locals. Then they open little bizinesses without permission or work without work permits(most come in as 'tourists)----and they do business with the other foreigners, draining the locals' opportunities and paying slave wages.

Now, this is true in the US---we do to our own! How many US cops, firemen, teachers, not to mention more poorly paid servants and wage slaves can live in the communities in which they work; it is the same fucking snake! The difference here is that people will only tolerate this to a certain extent before striking out at the perceived source of the problem. We are not shit-eaters; we have thrown out a number of presidents in my time here by going to streets and not to work until there was a new government. When I say 'we', I do not mean that I am leading the charge or even on the street; this is not my country and I am a guest here, but I do give what funds I have available, buy food, and provide a place for others to meet. South Americans are intelligent and courageous enough to run their own country, with or without a foreigner's approval or broken dreams that never worked in their own country.

I have spent twenty years of my life here in flower----an oldman blooms every year in this environment----and these have been the finest years of my life. I still am affected by the lifelong conditioning I received; I cannot deny this, but only be aware and laugh at this oldfool when he falls on his own sword. This happens often, but the people here just smile and put my faux pas aside; they know that I am a foreigner and can expect no more.

This used to be true more than now, and it is simply because there are too many people from the states fleeing the fear they have created by being stupid enough to trade life for a sofa and a tv

Shit, how I wish it was different----yeah, I am one of the people who sees how easy it might be if each of us only be responsible for 'the one'---a dreamer/realist who was fortunate to be born white, anglo, christian, male in the most powerful and wealthiest nation in the history of humanity---a complete 'accident of birth'. This oldman now realizes, though he has no beliefs, he was born in a 'state of grace'.

That is why he is so grateful for this life------accident of birth, no more             om

Tue, 03/06/2012 - 18:40 | 2230127 Sophist Economicus
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"THEY" made me live beyond my means, THEY forced me not to save, THEY made me too lazy to understand the mechanisms of government, the power grab performed under our noses, THEY convinced me that the constitution is a "living document", And THEY didnt tell me that I should take control of my life, my future, my freedom


Tue, 03/06/2012 - 18:46 | 2230153 surfsup
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And for you:

"They trained me to be stupid..."   NOT bullshit... 

Tue, 03/06/2012 - 22:34 | 2230813 Totentänzerlied
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+1 for linking anything about John Taylor Gatto. His first book is his magnum opus, should be required reading for everyone who ever set foot in a public school.

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 05:53 | 2231444 StychoKiller
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Got the gist of it right here: "Some Lessons from the Underground History of American Education" by John Taylor Gatto, found in "Everything You Know is Wrong", ISBN 978-1-56731-637-7, pgs 274-287

Tue, 03/06/2012 - 20:14 | 2230442 Seer
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Fine, if you have land and an ability to provide the basics, otherwise you're stuck in the System.  Yeah, people have allowed themselves to be sucked in, but in the final analysis it DOESN'T FUCKING MATTER, as it's ALL fake, fake shit, fake money...

I don't pretend to be superior by chastising others (I beat on the System).  Like you or I have the Solutions?  Yes, we were blessed to be cynics, but that still doesn't guarantee our survival.  TPTB don't like people like us, it's TPTB that have the POWER.  If sheep follow TPTB then TPTB will try to ensure a minimal level of bribes to keep them at bay.

The entire paradigm is unsustainable, and this has nothing to do with the literacy levels of the populace in general.  If everyone were debt free the System would crash.  I'll cry no tear over this, but, on the other end, I also won't be jumping for joy (the future isn't known, things might be a bit ugly, and That doesn't bring any joy).

Tue, 03/06/2012 - 18:43 | 2230142 RSloane
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My only objection to articles like this, whose basic premise I have no argument with, is that it treats the US economy as if it operates in its own unique sphere. The American consumer has leveraged cheap labor abroad for decades, as have other Western economies. Its a little late in the day to call 'foul'. Is the American consumer going to be able to support thousands upon thousands of fast food stores? Oh hell yes. Those will be the last to close.

Tue, 03/06/2012 - 19:18 | 2230258 TMT
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Agreed.  A good way to play retail is to go long Yum Brands and short Best Buy.  With grocery prices through the roof, people will be eating more fast food.  As for Best Buy, well they're just fucked.

Tue, 03/06/2012 - 20:19 | 2230454 Seer
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The Global System is crashing in, and it's because it cannot keep the Growth Ponzi going: China is now starting to experience reality, forecasting "only" 7.5% growth for this year (well, that extrapolates to a doubling of their economy in just under 10 years- anyone who thinks that that's possible needs serious help).

Tue, 03/06/2012 - 18:44 | 2230144 surfsup
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Summary one word:  Artificial Sustention    See:

Tue, 03/06/2012 - 18:45 | 2230146 Stanley Lord
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Why do we have to bash Americans for eating junk food at 7-11?

Why is being fat on the same level as being a child molester?

The fat hatred  coming from Washington DC, in a subtle attempt to get you to accept Obamacare.

 The fat people did not cause our troubles so lets stop using them as a symbol of our problems.


Tue, 03/06/2012 - 18:53 | 2230184 RSloane
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I -think- its because fat people represent personally being out of control and making very poor decisions based on impulse. I don't know that for sure, but that's my take on it. It doesn't help that fat is visually repulsive to many people.

Tue, 03/06/2012 - 20:02 | 2230399 lotsoffun
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obese is also generally extremely unhealthy.  besides being costly to the rest of us.  no stairs, no walking etc.  everything burning fossil fuels so the fkers can move their expanding assets from point a to point b to consume more.  i want stairs and doors that i have to pull open and not every environment being 100% climatized 24/7.  it is an expensive way of life.


Tue, 03/06/2012 - 21:49 | 2230688 Gully Foyle
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Obese is the only thing left for Hipsters to HATE freely. Can't demean Blacks, Hispanics, the Poor, Women so you hate FAT WHITE PEOPLE.

Every goddamn pic of someone dissing a fat person involves some white woman at Walmart. Like there aren't obese Blacks and Hispanics.

The difference is if you insult those people they will beat the shit out of you. Because you fucking deserve it.

I also found it funny when people would equate those driving Hummers with small dicks. Except when they are Black. You know those motherfuckers would pop a cap in your cracker ass for looking at them funny.

Personally you insult me for being fat, I will kneecap your ass drag you in a bathroom and tell the cops you are a manwhore who tried to grab my cock.

And your little pussy ass will cry because thats the best you can do.

Tue, 03/06/2012 - 22:01 | 2230724 Drater
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"Haha it's funny because he's fat" - Leslie Chow

Tue, 03/06/2012 - 23:07 | 2230908 infinity8
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This has to be the most pathetic response/comment I have ever read on ZH. And, you have been here a long time. I was going to smack you down but I'm not a bully. Speechless.

Tue, 03/06/2012 - 23:15 | 2230929 Gully Foyle
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Was that meant for me?

The reality is the only young people can safely hate are fate white women. And it shows.

But what should really scare the shit out of people, is all that hate just gets bottled up. It always surfaces at some point. You beat a woman, you call a black friend nigger during a heated argument, you tell your friends about the spics who laughed at you.

Tue, 03/06/2012 - 23:22 | 2230948 infinity8
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Dude, read your own words. Back away from the bottle. You're actually freaking me out a little.

Tue, 03/06/2012 - 23:52 | 2230997 infinity8
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"The reality is the only young people can safely hate are fate white women. And it shows." Wha?

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 00:08 | 2231024 brettd
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Hating/mocking/berating/patronizing Christians is easy and routine in the USA.

Tue, 03/06/2012 - 19:14 | 2230251 HurricaneSeason
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When you eat at 7-11, you get fat.

When you get fat, you get unhappy.

When you get unhappy, you go to happy hour.

When you go to happy hour, you get drunk and you're up for anything.

When you're up for anything, you go to a Turkish bathouse and meet Charlie Sheen.

When you meet Charlie Sheen, you end up reenacting scenes from Platoon with Charlie Sheen.

Dont reenact scenes from Platoon with Charlie Sheen: Don't eat at 7-11. QED


Tue, 03/06/2012 - 19:21 | 2230268 RSloane
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Haha nice take off.

Tue, 03/06/2012 - 19:52 | 2230368 infinity8
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Still laughing, thanks. I'm off to the Turkish bathhouse now.

Tue, 03/06/2012 - 23:15 | 2230932 Gully Foyle
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Will Charlie do his Duvall impersonation?

Tue, 03/06/2012 - 19:47 | 2230346 infinity8
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Sorry, Plumpy.



Tue, 03/06/2012 - 22:08 | 2230741 Abitdodgie
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My momma was so fat she jumped up in the air and got stuck

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 01:12 | 2231131 Dave Thomas
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My momma was so fat, she fell in love and broke it!

Tue, 03/06/2012 - 23:17 | 2230936 Gully Foyle
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Better yet, drug user or take it up the ass Homosexual.

Like that shit is healthy.

Tue, 03/06/2012 - 23:33 | 2230964 infinity8
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If we were to have this interaction in real life, you would be crying (apparently like a FAT baby right now). I didn't initiate any conversation with you. Don't forget to look up.

Tue, 03/06/2012 - 23:29 | 2230944 Incubus
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"Fat" is as much a choice in life as in choice of clothes, or wearing jewelry.


Just 'cause your parents may have made you wear certain clothes, or shoveled shit down your throat to grow your udders, it doesn't mean that you have to stay that way.


And being "fat" isn't cheap, either.  Why don't you fatties go exercise and learn proper nutrition?  It's always the fat people with preventable illnesses, too.  Stop burdening everyone with your lack of self-control and depression-inducing image?  I can be fine, and then I'll see a fat person and my day is ruined.   The worst are old fat people.



Wed, 03/07/2012 - 01:02 | 2231114 Dave Thomas
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I think I'll stay fat now.

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 08:09 | 2231566 memyselfiu
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lol! sounds like you're the one with the problem, mental that is.


Tue, 03/06/2012 - 18:47 | 2230156 scatterbrains
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speaking of taxes drying up...took the old Ram 1500 with the bashed in left rear fender, with tailgate off because side wall is so deformed it wont close safely, both rear light lenses broken,  baloney skin tires all around, re-bolted on sloppy side view mirror, rust bucket and a host of other issues through the NJ DMV (only even bothered because the sticker was up and I had no choice) and she passed. I told the dude if you had a picture hall of shame for what you let pass these days this old truck would a contender for #1 (I only use the truck for firewood and manure)  It turns out they fired everyone and now only test for emissions and fault codes, which are the only things not wrong with the truck.  Got me to thinking though now that they don't bother testing brakes/suspension how dangerous is the road going to get now wtih everyone forced to push every bit of life out of their whoopties because of bad credit, jobless and being broke etc.  I have a feeling it's going to get ugly out on the highways in the coming years.

Tue, 03/06/2012 - 18:50 | 2230169 Seasmoke
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and yet the cost of the registration did not go down 1 penny.....and now the fraud Christie can go around around the country saying he didnt raise taxes (fees and tolls dont count in Christies world)

Tue, 03/06/2012 - 18:59 | 2230203 Sophist Economicus
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Yes, Jersey was much better under Corizine

Tue, 03/06/2012 - 20:05 | 2230414 10mm
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Same thing going on in Penna.Turnpike tolls etc etc.

Tue, 03/06/2012 - 18:58 | 2230201 Sophist Economicus
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Whoa! My buddy in Hunterdon county was not that lucky.... Where do you go to inspection?

Tue, 03/06/2012 - 19:36 | 2230300 scatterbrains
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Baker's basin on US-1  in Lawrence twp.

Tue, 03/06/2012 - 19:59 | 2230390 Melin
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Your thesis being that, but for big government,  we'd all be smashing into each other with these big machines we're too stupid to maintain for own safety/pleasure?

Tue, 03/06/2012 - 21:11 | 2230606 scatterbrains
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Not at all I'm glad big gov. aint all over my back and that my truck passed... but it dosn't stop me from wondering how dangerous the roads are going to be.  I'm not about to pour any money into this rust bucket..if she needs parts I'll hit the u-pick-it joint and pull what I need. I leave it to folks like you to dump your money into a bottomless pit because the "mechanic" said so  lol

Tue, 03/06/2012 - 20:29 | 2230486 Seer
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What I never got was why do NEW vehicles (not like I've ever had one) have to have emissions tests?  Shit doesn't go bad for quite a while; and, if it's the few folks who like to bypass shit, well... it's not worth subjecting a bunch of people who are in basic compliance over a trying to catch a handful of folks.

I said it many years ago- just wait until all those SUVs age and teenagers get them as hand-me-downs.

Tue, 03/06/2012 - 22:07 | 2230737 Herkimer Jerkimer
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Brilliant article.

I always figured we was being lied to about the bullshit with deleveraging. You just have to go to the grocery store and see people paying for groceries on credit cards.


I saw this stuff happening back in the mid 90's, when I cut newpaper clippings about how the average debt in Canada was abou 5g's. It was a WTF moment back then!

Good luck with that debt kid. Pay it off. Or there'll be no soup for you. Or car. Or any financial, anything.


As for that truck, I'd like to know why my Chevy S10, 1988, got 31.5 mpg, with no trouble. And today? Well, maybe they should bring that sucker back.



Tue, 03/06/2012 - 22:53 | 2230858 Gully Foyle
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I wonder if that is related to allowing Mexican semi's on US highways. When that started a few years ago there was a big stink from US truckers claiming the Mexicans would never pass inspection.

Tue, 03/06/2012 - 18:47 | 2230159 Jim B
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Which would be the best long term shorts! LOL

Tue, 03/06/2012 - 18:48 | 2230160 taniquetil
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In all fairness to the American consumer, jalapeno cheese stuffed pretzels withsides of cheese dipping sauce are delicious.

Tue, 03/06/2012 - 18:48 | 2230162 css1971
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Start thinking what else you could do with the retail space. It'll be going cheap.

Tue, 03/06/2012 - 18:52 | 2230180 Seasmoke
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i still say have a business upfront and the family living in the back will be the best way to go......

Tue, 03/06/2012 - 19:37 | 2230304 Dr. Kananga
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Used steel shipping containers are going to be the next big thing. 20' goes for 1500.00 and they'll drop it on your lot. Get two or three. Easy enough to arrange and convert into a house, indestructable, secure, and there's tons of them lying around unused. Seriously.

Tue, 03/06/2012 - 20:34 | 2230499 Seer
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And they sweat like an obese American down in Louisiana on a hot summer day...

Yurts are more portable.

But, yeah, the shipping containers will be available for storage.  I'd given it some thought, but I don't want to stare at one, and, well... they're not portable w/o cost.

Tue, 03/06/2012 - 21:54 | 2230709 msjimmied
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They got the insulation part all figured out. First there is a paint that is reflective and insulating, then they have styrofoam shaped to mimic the corrugation in the steel, so you have a flat surface inside of the home.  I've been in one during the summer, it wasn't any different. They would be a sight better, and a lot sturdier than a trailer home, could be rather stylish in fact. The sizes are standardized, and they stack precisely, like Lego bricks, let your imagination run wild.

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 08:15 | 2231572 memyselfiu
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spray that on the inside behind the stud walls, and make sure you cross ventilate for summer (ie provide a louver opposite the door)

Tue, 03/06/2012 - 18:50 | 2230168 El Oregonian
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"A CNBC bubble headed arrogant bimbo"

Classic. Love it.

Tue, 03/06/2012 - 18:55 | 2230190 RSloane
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He must have seen Becky Quick's three hour 'interview' with Warren Buffet.  I expected her to start humping her chair any minute.

Tue, 03/06/2012 - 20:06 | 2230418 lakecity55
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Man, those MSNBC scum have a direct kool-aid pipe from o'bama's ass.

Tue, 03/06/2012 - 19:05 | 2230208 kaiserhoff
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Because fat prevents men from doing anything useful, and makes women so much less than useless.  Well, they can turn food to


A trip to the beach these days makes me feel like I'm in a freak show, and yes morbid obesity is a big part of that.

(Reply to Stanley and I'm not drinking.  Maybe that's the problem;)

Tue, 03/06/2012 - 19:05 | 2230222 RollOnShabbos
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I'm 22 and have 8k in credit card debt and 25k in student loans. And I'm not paying any of it back!

Tue, 03/06/2012 - 19:12 | 2230242 smiler03
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Good luck with those student loans, sincerely, good luck.

Tue, 03/06/2012 - 20:02 | 2230400 RollOnShabbos
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Thanks smiler. I plan on filing chapter 13 and then going off the grid. The American dream!

Tue, 03/06/2012 - 22:54 | 2230864 Gully Foyle
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Dude, student loans and medical expenses are NOT covered by bancruptcy.

Tue, 03/06/2012 - 20:38 | 2230515 Seer
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This is something to be proud of?

I've said it before, and I'll say it once again, I won't be doing any business with ANYONE who has willfully sidestepped fulfilling their contractual obligations.  I'll view it as a character flaw.  After all, that writing-off of YOUR obligations means that the rest of us have to absorb it as tax write-offs.

Tue, 03/06/2012 - 22:41 | 2230826 hack3434
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To believe that contractual law matters anymore seems a bit delusional (Old age Character flaw Perhaps?)


Tue, 03/06/2012 - 19:10 | 2230231 JohnnyBriefcase
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Fuckin' Boomers...

Tue, 03/06/2012 - 19:59 | 2230388 nmewn
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Get off your ass & change it boy...good luck ;-)

Tue, 03/06/2012 - 20:05 | 2230411 JohnnyBriefcase
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Boomers be hatin'


Good track.


[s]Where's the auto-tune?[/s]

Tue, 03/06/2012 - 19:12 | 2230234 death_to_fed_tyranny
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Credit Cards are an easy win for the banks. The human sheeple creates the money with his signature. The bank gets $1000 from the Feds when he or she said sheeple opens the account even if they never use the account. The sheeple decides to buy a 52 inch hypnotic box(TV) for $1500. The Feds give the bankster $1500. The sheeple is required to pay another $1500 plus interest. The sheeple created the "money" with its signature. The banksters, through, fractional monetization, uses that "money" times 10. That $1500 becomes $15000 to the banksters. The banksters never lose! Don't pay your Credit Cards! Run em up and when they try to collect, make them prove they incurred a loss. THEY CAN'T!

Tue, 03/06/2012 - 19:20 | 2230263 thatthingcanfly
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I think I'll use my credit card to join "Sugar Daddy Dating."

Tue, 03/06/2012 - 19:41 | 2230328 scatterbrains
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Pussy on the fed's dime huh ? I hadn't thought of that.

Tue, 03/06/2012 - 21:04 | 2230587 tankster
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If it wasn't for my beta-blockers, I'd consider it! (Inside joke, sorry)

Tue, 03/06/2012 - 19:13 | 2230245 TMT
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Great article but he failed to mention one important point - as these large retailers go dark it will have a cascading effect on other retailers.  Target, Best Buy, etc. are anchor tenants in malls and power centers.  When the anchor goes dark the shadow tenants no longer benefit from the traffic generated by the anchor tanants and will eventually go dark as well.

Tue, 03/06/2012 - 20:40 | 2230527 Seer
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Yes, good point.

Economies of scale in reverse is going to be quite the shock.

Tue, 03/06/2012 - 23:18 | 2230940 Milestones
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Interesting!! I gave both you and TMT a greenie, and his total went up by one and yours by 3; even though his was the lead comment,      MIlestones

Tue, 03/06/2012 - 23:54 | 2231002 logically possible
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Pawn Shops and homeless shelters may just be the new "Anchor Stores".

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 02:24 | 2231257 SoCalBusted
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The Scotch Tape Store should do fine.

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