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Guest Post: Comfortably Numb

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Submitted by Jim Quinn of The Burning Platform

Comfortably Numb

Is there anybody in there?
Just nod if you can hear me.
Is there anyone at home?
Come on, now,
I hear you’re feeling down.
Well I can ease your pain
And get you on your feet again.
I need some information first.
Just the basic facts
Can you show me where it hurts?

Pink Floyd – Comfortably Numb

As I observe the zombie like reactions of Americans to our catastrophic economic highway to collapse, the continued plundering and pillaging of the national treasury by criminal Wall Street bankers, non-enforcement of existing laws against those who committed the largest crime in history, and reaction to young people across the country getting beaten, bludgeoned, shot with tear gas and pepper sprayed by police, I can’t help but wonder whether there is anyone home. Why are most Americans so passively accepting of these calamitous conditions? How did we become so comfortably numb? I’ve concluded Americans have chosen willful ignorance over thoughtful critical thinking due to their own intellectual laziness and overpowering mind manipulation by the elite through their propaganda emitting media machines. Some people are awaking from their trance, but the vast majority is still slumbering or fuming at erroneous perpetrators.

Both the Tea Party movement and the Occupy Wall Street movement are a reflection of the mood change in the country, which is a result of government overreach, political corruption, dysfunctional economic policies, and a financial system designed to enrich the few while defrauding the many. The common theme is anger, frustration and disillusionment with a system so badly broken it appears unfixable through the existing supposedly democratic methods. The system has been captured by an oligarchy of moneyed interests from the financial industry, mega-corporations, and military industrial complex, protected by their captured puppets in Washington DC and sustained by the propaganda peddling corporate media. The differences in political parties are meaningless as they each advocate big government solutions to all social, economic, foreign relations, and monetary issues.

There is confusion and misunderstanding regarding the culprits in this drama. It was plain to me last week when I read about a small group of concerned citizens in the next town over who decided to support the Occupy movement by holding a nightly peaceful march to protest the criminal syndicate that is Wall Street and a political system designed to protect them. My local paper asked for people’s reaction to this Constitutional exercising of freedom of speech and freedom of assembly. Here is a sampling of the comments:

“What are those Occupy people thinking?! The whole concept is foreign to me. There are always going to be the haves and the have nots. Get over it. Blame yourself for not paying more attention in school or not working hard enough. Just wish people would take responsibility.”

“If they worked half as hard actually working as they do being a pain in everyone else’s ass, they’d be rich! Being born does not guarantee success or wealth. Only hard work does. Maybe we should let them all occupy a jail cell or two.”

“If the goal is to irritate hardworking suburban commuters on their way home, that sounds like the perfect time and location.”

“Let’s hope they don’t pitch tents and trash Lansdale. They need to look for a job, not occupy the streets.”

“I work, and even if I wasn’t working I wouldn’t (march); I would be out looking for a JOB!”

I was dumbfounded at the rage directed towards mostly young people who haven’t even begun their working careers and have played no part in the destruction of our economic system underway for the last 30 years. The people making these statements are middle aged, middle class suburbanites. They seem to be just as livid as the OWS protestors, but their ire is being directed towards the only people who have taken a stand against Wall Street greed and Washington D.C. malfeasance. I’m left scratching my head trying to understand their animosity towards people drawing attention to the enormous debt based ponzi scheme that is our country, versus their silent acquiescence to the transfer of trillions in taxpayer dollars to the criminal bankers that have destroyed the worldwide financial system. I can only come to the conclusion the average American has become so apathetic, willfully ignorant of facts and reality, distracted by the techno-gadgets that run their lives, uninterested in anything beyond next week’s episode of Dancing with the Stars or Jersey Shore, and willing to let the corporate media moguls form their opinions for them through relentless propaganda, the only thing that will get their attention is an absolute collapse of our economic scheme. Uninformed, unconcerned, intellectually vacant Americans will get exactly that in the not too distant future.

Greater Depression Hidden from View

“Look at the orators in our republics; as long as they are poor, both state and people can only praise their uprightness; but once they are fattened on the public funds, they conceive a hatred for justice, plan intrigues against the people and attack the democracy.”Aristophanes, Plutus


The anger and vitriol directed at OWS protestors by middle class Americans is a misdirected reaction to a quandary they can’t quite comprehend. They know their lives are getting more difficult but aren’t sure why. They are paying more for energy, food, tuition, and real estate taxes, while the price of their houses decline and their wages stagnate. More than a quarter of all homeowners are underwater on their mortgage and many are drowning in credit card and student loan debt. At the same time, government drones tell them the economy is in its second year of recovery and corporate profits are at all-time highs. Government statistics, false storylines, and entitlement programs are designed to confuse the public and obscure the fact we are in the midst of another Depression. Everyone has seen the pictures of the Great Depression breadlines, farmers forced off their land during the dustbowl, and downtrodden Americans in soup kitchens. The economic conditions today are as bad as or worse than the Great Depression. This Depression is hidden from plain view because there are no unemployment lines, bread lines, or soup lines. We are experiencing an electronic Great Depression, as food stamps, unemployment compensation, Social security payments and welfare benefits are electronically delivered to millions of recipients.

There have been over 12 million foreclosure actions since 2007, with millions of Americans losing their homes. Another 16 million homeowners are underwater on their mortgages as home prices continue to fall and the economy sinks further by the day. The value of household real estate has fallen from $22.7 trillion in 2006 to $16.2 trillion today, a loss of $6.5 trillion concentrated among the middle class. In contrast, mortgage debt has only decreased by $600 billion mostly due to write-offs by the banks that created fraudulent mortgage products to lure Americans into debt.

The unemployment rate in the United States reached 25% during the Great Depression. The government manipulated fictional unemployment rate reported to the public by drones at the BLS is currently 9.0%. They conveniently ignore the millions of people who have given up looking for work and those who have taken jobs as part-time pickle ploppers at McDonalds, when they previously assembled automobiles at GM. The true number of unemployed/underemployed is 23%.

Since 2007, unemployment has officially gone up by 7 million. In reality, the same percentage of the working age population should be employed today as in 2007 (63%). Since only 58.4% of the working age population is employed today (lowest since 1983), another 4 million needs to be added to the official unemployment tally. The fact is there are 240 million working age Americans and only 140 million are employed. This means there are 100 million working age Americans not working, but our government only classifies 14 million of them as unemployed. There is certainly millions of stay at home moms, students, and legitimately disabled among the 86 million people classified as not in the labor force, but you can’t tell me that another 20 to 30 million of these people couldn’t or wouldn’t work if given the opportunity.

The deception in government reported figures is borne out by the most successful government program of the Obama administration, which has been adding participants at an astounding rate. The Food Stamp program has been a smashing success as we’ve added 13.8 million Americans to this fine program since Obama’s inauguration, a mere 43% increase in less than three years. There are now 45.8 million Americans dependent upon food stamps for survival, 14.7% of the U.S. population. This program began in 1969 and enrollment always surges during recessions and declines during recoveries. But a funny thing happened during our current “recovery”. The government reported our recession over in December 2009. It was certainly over for the Wall Street psychopaths as they rewarded themselves with $43 billion of bonuses in 2009/2010. The number of Americans on food stamps has risen by 6.8 million during this government sponsored “recovery”. You’ll be happy to know that Obama’s good buddy – Jamie Dimon – and his well run machine at JP Morgan earns hundreds of millions administering the SNAP program.

Since 2007, Federal government transfer payments have increased from $1.7 trillion annually to $2.3 trillion, a 35% increase in four years. This is surely a sign of a recovering economy. Bernanke’s zero interest rate policy has stolen $400 billion per year from senior citizens and savers and handed it to the very bankers who caused the pain and suffering of millions. Personal interest income has declined from $1.4 trillion to $1.0 trillion, while Wall Street faux profits have soared. The game plan of the oligarchy has been to transfer hundreds of billions from taxpayers to bankers, report profits through accounting entries reducing loan loss reserves, pump up their stock prices and convince clueless lemming investors to buy newly issued shares at inflated valuations. The plan has failed. The zero interest rate policy’s unintended consequences have caused revolutions throughout the Middle East and massive food inflation across the developing world.

The single biggest reason the middle class feel frustrated, angry and like they are falling behind is due to the Federal Reserve and the relentless never ending inflation they produce in order to support their masters on Wall Street and provide cover for the trillions in debt spending by politicians in Washington DC. It is no surprise that beginning in 1980 when government spending began to accelerate much more rapidly than government revenues, the government decided to “tweak” how it measured inflation. The government reports inflation at 3.5% today. The truth is inflation is running in excess of 10% if measured exactly as it was in 1980. That’s right, we have a recession and we have inflation in double digits. No wonder the masses are restless.


The reason middle class Americans are being methodically exterminated and driven into poverty is the monetary policies of the Federal Reserve. Since 1971, when Nixon extinguished the last vestiges of the gold standard and unleashed politicians to spend borrowed money without immediate consequence, the U.S. dollar has lost 82% of its purchasing power using the government manipulated CPI. In reality, it has lost over 90% of its purchasing power. The average American, after decades of being dumbed down by government sanctioned education, is incapable of understanding the impact of inflation on their lives. As their wages rise 2% to 3% per year and inflation rises 5% to 10% per year, they get poorer day by day. The Wall Street banks, who own the Federal Reserve, step in and convince the average American to substitute debt for real wealth in order to keep living the modern techno-lifestyle sold to them by mainstream corporate media.

The oligarchy of moneyed interests have done a spectacular job convincing the working middle class they should be angry at 20 year old OWS protestors, illegal immigrants and the inner city welfare class, rather than the true culprits – the Federal Reserve, Wall Street banks and mega-corporations. This is a testament to the power of propaganda and the intellectual slothfulness of the average American. U.S. based mega-corporations fired 864,000 higher wage American workers between 2000 and 2010, while hiring almost 3 million workers in low wage foreign countries, using their billions in cash to buy back their own stocks, and paying corporate executives shamefully excessive compensation. The corporate mainstream media treats corporate CEO’s like rock stars as if they deserve to be compensated at a level 185 times the average worker. The S&P 500 consists of the 500 biggest companies in America and while the executives of these companies have reaped millions in compensation, the stock index for these companies is at the exact level it was on July 9, 1998. Over the last thirteen years workers were fired by the thousands, shareholders earned 0% (negative 39% on an inflation adjusted basis), and executives got fabulously rich.


Man made inflation has stealthily devastated millions of lives over the last four decades. When the weekly wages of the average worker are adjusted for inflation, they are making 12% less than they did in 1971. Using a real non-manipulated measure of inflation, the average worker is making 30% less than they did in 1971. Sadly, our math challenged populace only comprehend their wages have doubled in the last forty years, without understanding the true impact of inflation. Thankfully, the Wall Street debt dealers with a helping hand from Madison Avenue propaganda peddlers stepped up to the plate and imprisoned the middle class with the shackles of $2.5 trillion in consumer debt. So, while real wages have fallen 30% since 1971, consumer debt has increased by 1,700%.


Americans have been snookered into renouncing their citizenship and converting to being mindless consumers. Citizenship requires a person to be actively engaged in the community with obligations to fellow citizens and future generations. Consumerism requires people to love things, embrace debt, worry about what others have, and become driven by the accumulation of possessions and the appearance of wealth. The disgusting exhibition that Madison Avenue maggots have coined Black Friday is the ultimate display of consumerism. In a nauseating display of senseless spending driven by retail conglomerates, Americans act like Pavlov’s salivating dogs by lining up for hours to stampede over and pepper spray other consumers to get the ultimate deal on that Chinese made toaster oven, Vietnamese made laptop, Korean made HDTV, or Mexican made tortilla maker. They don’t seem to grasp the irony of going deeper into debt buying cheap crap made in foreign countries by the workers who took their jobs. The mainstream media proclaims a hugely successful Black Friday as millions bought crap they didn’t need with money they don’t have, while millions more ate their Thanksgiving meals in food shelters – unreported by the media.This repulsive manifestation of consumerism is applauded and encouraged by our government, as described by George Monbiot:

“Governments are deemed to succeed or fail by how well they make money go round, regardless of whether it serves any useful purpose. They regard it as a sacred duty to encourage the country’s most revolting spectacle: the annual feeding frenzy in which shoppers queue all night, then stampede into the shops, elbow, trample and sometimes fight to be the first to carry off some designer junk which will go into landfill before the sales next year. The madder the orgy, the greater the triumph of economic management.”

The masses have been brainwashed by those in power into thinking consumer spending utilizing debt is essential for a strong economy, when the exact opposite is the truth. Saving and investment are the essential ingredients to a strong economy. Debt based spending only benefits bankers, mega-corporations, and politicians.

Mass Manipulation through Propaganda

“The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. …We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of. This is a logical result of the way in which our democratic society is organized. Vast numbers of human beings must cooperate in this manner if they are to live together as a smoothly functioning society. In almost every act of our daily lives, whether in the sphere of politics or business, in our social conduct or our ethical thinking, we are dominated by the relatively small number of persons…who understand the mental processes and social patterns of the masses. It is they who pull the wires which control the public mind.” – Edward Bernays, Propaganda, 1928 

Edward Bernays, the father of propaganda to control the masses, would be so proud of his disciples running our country today. He clearly believed only an elite few were intellectually capable of running the show. Essentially, he hit upon the concept of the 1% telling the 99% what they should think and believe over eighty years ago. The mechanisms for controlling the thoughts, beliefs, and actions of the population are so much more efficient today. The conditioning begins when we are children, as every child will be bombarded with at least 30,000 hours of propaganda broadcast by media corporations by the time they reach adulthood. Their minds are molded and they are instructed what to believe and what to value. Those in control of society want to keep the masses entertained at an infantile level, with instant gratification and satisfying desires as their only considerations. The elite have achieved their Alpha status through intellectual superiority, control of the money system, and control of the political process. Their power emanates from eliminating choices, while giving the illusion of choice to the masses. People think they are free, when in reality they are slaves to a two party political system, a few Wall Street banks, and whatever our TVs tell us to buy.

Our entire system is designed to control the thoughts and actions of the masses. In many ways it is done subtly, while recently it has become more bold and blatant. It is essential for the ruling elite to keep control of our minds through media messages and the educational system. It is not a surprise that our public education system has methodically deteriorated over the last four decades. The government gained control over education and purposely teaches our children selected historical myths, social engineering gibberish and only the bare essentials of math and science. The government creates the standardized tests and approves the textbooks. We are left with millions of functionally illiterate children that grow into non-critical thinking adults. This is the exact result desired by the 1%. If too many of the 99% were able to ignore the media propaganda and think for themselves, revolution would result. This is why the moneyed interests have circled the wagons, invoked police state thug tactics, and used all the powers of their media machine to squash the OWS movement. It threatens their power and control.

“Experience has shown that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny.” – Thomas Jefferson

A highly educated engaged citizenry would be a danger to the existing social order. The 1%, educated at our finest universities, does not want average Americans to obtain a great education for a reasonable price. They want them to get a worthless diploma at an excessively high price tag and become debt slaves to the Wall Street 1%. They want uneducated, indebted consumers, not educated productive citizens. Our republic has been slowly perverted since the time of its inception. The insidious process had been slow and methodical until 1913. The establishment of the Federal Reserve by an elite group of bankers and their politician friends and the establishment of a personal income tax created the conditions that have allowed a small cabal of powerful men to dictate the course of our economic, political, social, and military policies for the last 98 years. Anyone that chooses to open their eyes and awake from the propaganda induced stupor can see the result of allowing a small group of corrupt authoritarian men using their power to pervert our government into tyranny. The majority remains oppressed, buried under trillions of debt, while the shysters reap obscene profits, poison the worldwide economic system, and walk away unscathed in the aftermath of their crimes.

The ruling oligarchy has become so brazen in the last few years that it has attracted the attention of the critical thinking minority. The advent of the internet has allowed these critical thinking few to analyze the un-sanitized facts, discuss the issues, and provide truth amidst a blizzard of lies. The proliferation of truth telling websites (Zero Hedge, Mish, Financial Sense, Naked Capitalism) has allowed truth seekers to bypass the government sanctioned corporate media. The pillaging of society by the politically powerful, corrupt 1% is plain to see in the graphs below.


The divergence in household income was not the result of hard work, superior intellectual firepower, or the media touted entrepreneurial spirit of the rich. It was the result of the 1% capturing the economic and political system of the United States and using it to ransack the wealth of the formerly working middle class. The fatal flaw which will ultimately result in a fitting end for the powerful elitists is their egos. They are psychopaths, unable to feel empathy for their fellow man. Enough is never enough. They always want more. Life is a game to them. They truly believe they can pull the right strings and continue to accumulate more riches. But they are wrong. They are blinded by their hubris. There are limits to growth based solely on debt and we’ve reached that limit. The world is crumbling under the weight of crippling debt created by these Wall Street psychopaths, while the corrupted bought off politicians try to shift the losses from the bankers who incurred them to the citizens who have already been fleeced. Nomi Prins captures the essence of our current situation:

“Today, the stock prices of the largest US banks are about as low as they were in the early part of 2009, not because of euro-contagion or Super-committee super-incompetence (a useless distraction anyway) but because of the ongoing transparency void surrounding the biggest banks amidst their central-bank-covered risks, and the political hot potato of how many emergency loans are required to keep them afloat at any given moment.  Because investors don’t know their true exposures, any more than in early 2009. Because US banks catalyzed the global crisis that is currently manifesting itself in Europe. Because there never was a separate US housing crisis and European debt crisis. Instead, there is a worldwide, systemic, unregulated, uncontained, rapacious need for the most powerful banks and financial institutions to leverage whatever could be leveraged in whatever forms it could be leveraged in. So, now we’re just barely in the second quarter of the game of thrones, where the big banks are the kings, the ECB, IMF and the Fed are the money supply, and the populations are the powerless serfs. Yeah, let’s play the ECB inflation game, while the world crumbles.”

Those in power are beginning to lose control. You can sense their desperation. Their propaganda is losing its impact as the pain for millions of Americans has become acute. The outrage and anger flaring across the country on a daily basis, reflected in the OWS movement, is just the beginning of a revolutionary period descending upon this nation. The existing social order will be swept away, but they will not go without a fight. They will use their control of the police, military and media to try and crush the coming rebellion.

 The Dream is Gone

“The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws.” – Tacitus, The Annals of Imperial Rome

In addition to controlling the monetary system and brainwashing the inhabitants with relentless propaganda, the ruling class has used their control of the political process to impose thousands of laws, statutes, rules, and regulations upon the citizens. Again, an apathetic, distracted, trusting populace has been easily convinced that more laws will make them safe and secure. They have willingly sacrificed liberty, freedom and self reliance for the façade of safety, security and protection. The overwhelming number of government rules and regulations are designed to control you and insure your compliance and obedience to those in power. In a non-corrupt society inhabited by citizens willing to honor their obligations, government’s function is to insure property rights and defend the country from foreign invaders. Citizens don’t need to be herded like sheep with threats of imprisonment to do what is right. We don’t need 90,000 pages of regulations telling us the difference between right and wrong.


There were 400 pages of Federal Tax rules when the 1% personal income tax was implemented in 1913. Did the 18,000% increase in tax rules since 1913 benefit the average American or did they benefit the 1% who hires the lobbyists to write the rules which are passed into law by the politicians who receive their campaign contributions from the 1%? Do you ever wonder why you pay more taxes than a billionaire Wall Street hedge fund manager? Do you think our tax system is designed to benefit billionaires and mega-corporations when corporations with billions of income pay little or no taxes? Complexity and confusion benefits those who can create and take advantage of the complexity and confusion. Corporations and special interests have used their wealth to bribe politicians to design loopholes, credits, and exemptions that benefit their interests. The corruption of the system is terminal.


“The mistake you make, don’t you see, is in thinking one can live in a corrupt society without being corrupt oneself. After all, what do you achieve by refusing to make money? You’re trying to behave as though one could stand right outside our economic system. But one can’t. One’s got to change the system, or one changes nothing. One can’t put things right in a hole-and-corner way, if you take my meaning.”George Orwell

The American people are paying the price for allowing a few evil men to gain control of our government. The American people cowered in fear as the 342 page Patriot Act was somehow written in a few weeks after 9/11, introduced in Congress on October 23, passed the House on October 24 with no debate, passed the Senate on October 25 with no debate, and signed into law on October 26 by George Bush. A law passed by the ruling elite that stripped Americans of their freedoms and liberties was passed using fear mongering false patriotism propaganda to squelch dissent and the American people had no say in the matter. The government has used fear to keep the American people under control. We now unquestioningly accept being molested in airports. We shrug as our intelligence agencies eavesdrop on our telephone conversations and emails without the need for a court order. It is now taken for granted that we imprison people without charging them with a crime and assassinate suspected terrorists in foreign countries with predator drones. Invading countries and going to war no longer requires a declaration of war by Congress as required by the Constitution. The State grows ever more powerful.

Therefore, it is no surprise that Americans sit idly by, watching their 52 inch HDTVs,  as young people across the country are beaten, pepper sprayed, shot with rubber bullets and tear gas, and scorned and ridiculed by corporate media pundits for exercising their free speech rights to peacefully protest our corrupt system. The American tradition of civil disobedience is considered domestic terrorism by those in authority. Our beloved protectors in the Orwellian named Department of Homeland Security write reports classifying Ron Paul supporters and returning Iraq veterans as potential terrorists. If the powers that be get their way, the internet will be locked down and controlled, as it poses a huge threat to their thought control endeavors. Freedom to think, learn, question and organize resistance is unacceptable in the eyes of the elite. The country has reached a tipping point. Will enough right thinking Americans stand up and fight to bring down this corrupt system, or will we be herded silently to slaughter. The truth is there is something terribly wrong in this country. We are facing a myriad of problems that will require courage and common sense to overcome. We need only look in the mirror to find the guilty party. It is time to stop letting fear dictate our actions. Conflict is coming to this country due to the evil sanctioned by our corrupt leaders and the upright men and women who will bear the burden of destroying that evil.          

Our civilization has adopted the worst aspects of the two most famous dystopian novels in history – Orwell’s 1984 and Huxley’s Brave New World. The question is whether the population of this country is too far gone to recover. The answer to that question will determine whether the country chooses authoritarian dictatorship or a renewal of our founding principles. Aldous Huxley understood the three pillars of Western civilization fifty years ago and that their destruction would result in a collapse of our economic system:   

“Armaments, universal debt, and planned obsolescence – those are the three pillars of Western prosperity. If war, waste, and moneylenders were abolished, you’d collapse. And while you people are over-consuming the rest of the world sinks more and more deeply into chronic disaster.”

The three pillars sustaining the American empire edifice of never ending war, ever accumulating debt and excessive consumerism are crumbling. The growing corruption and weight of un-payable debt have weakened the very foundation of our grand experiment. The existing structure will surely collapse. My entire adult life has tracked the decline of the American empire. I had become comfortably numb. I came to my senses and began to question all the Federal government/Wall Street/Corporate Media sponsored truths about eight years ago. Many others have also awoken and begun to challenge the false storylines dictated by those in power.

The young people leading the protests across this land are showing tremendous courage and a tenacity of spirit that has been dormant for decades among the lethargic, distracted, over-medicated public. Despite being subjected to government education conditioning, these young people have zeroed in on the enemy. They may not have all the solutions, but they have correctly identified the corrupt banking system as the central nervous system of this vampire squid sucking the life out of our nation. I will support any effort to shine a light on our crooked system. My three young sons deserve a chance at a better life than they will get under the thumb of this oligarchic criminal enterprise. As a child I caught a fleeting glimpse of the American Dream. I turned to look, but it was gone. I choose not to become comfortably numb. I choose to do whatever it will take to renew the opportunity for my sons to achieve the American Dream.  

When I was a child
I caught a fleeting glimpse
Out of the corner of my eye
I turned to look but it was gone
I cannot put my finger on it now
The child is grown,
The dream is gone.
I have become comfortably numb.

Pink Floyd – Comfortably Numb


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Sun, 11/27/2011 - 12:03 | 1917447 Smithovsky
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We're watching the kettle boil but eventually it will.  

Sun, 11/27/2011 - 12:04 | 1917480 Oh regional Indian
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My American Ex-wife was visiting yesterday here in Bangalore, and I told her about the crazy Black Friday nonsense. She almost gagged watching the youtube videos.

What a sight. What sheep. Amazing what 40 years of colour-tell-a-lie-vision will do to an entire nation.

Black friday indeed. What a dark name too.

Conspicuous consumption, mammon's little helper.



Sun, 11/27/2011 - 12:20 | 1917531 oddjob
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Tell your X unnecessary globe totting is just another form of conspicuous consumption.

Sun, 11/27/2011 - 12:22 | 1917541 Almost Solvent
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At least we now have a wonderful new phrase:


Competitive shopping (with mace)

Sun, 11/27/2011 - 12:25 | 1917555 Oh regional Indian
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I think someone is going to make that into a reality TV show.

Competitive shopping. Comi-tragic.


Sun, 11/27/2011 - 12:38 | 1917606 boiltherich
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I thought they were already calling it OCCUPY WAL MART.

Sun, 11/27/2011 - 17:02 | 1918620 marsdefIAnCe
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On the bright side, people are starting to realize Obama is Osama. The OBAMA BI (nla) DEN administration is run by Osama Bin Laden. The beast of Revelations 13 is in his last throes.

9-11-11 Obama pauses before saying "Be still and know that I am God." Pslam 46 was read by Obama at the 9-11-11 ritual.

Pslam 46 is the 666th chapter from the end of the King James Bible. The original King James Bible from 1611 has Psalm 46 printed on page 666.

It has been 666 years since the last truly global financia crisis, when King Edward III repudiated his debts.

The only helicopter that landed in the Obama/Osama raid crashed after take off.  No body extraction was possibe:

Obama is third generation CIA:

Obama/Osama have the same face:

A few more coincidences:

Sun, 11/27/2011 - 13:16 | 1917742 Shocker
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Pretty much by now, everyone knows we are in some amazing times. There is so many charts/graphs to show us, where we were and where we are now.

Time for solutions, should of already happened. Who knows exactly how its all going to play out


Sun, 11/27/2011 - 14:46 | 1918122 tahoebumsmith
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Great recap Jim... I would like to add an answer to this question... Why are most Americans so passively accepting of these calamitous conditions? How did we become so comfortably numb?

Have you looked at the sky lately? What you see are Chemtrails filled with alumi-NUMB and barium. They spray us everyday with mind numbing chemicals and metals and call it geoengineering. How about your tap water? It also is filled with toxic crap that numb your brain and control you. Lets not mention the food supply which has been hyjacked by MONSATIN and engineered to change the way we think as well. Just like the TSA, the FDA is another corrupt organization that merely exists to control us. If the spraying of our skies and the contamination of our water wasn't enough, now everyday another 10,000 or so Americans are put on antidepressants and our children are diagnosed with ADHD or some mental illness so they can also be dosed with ritalin or some other mind numbing drug. If the 52 inch plasma mindfuck machine wasn't bad enough, now we can't even go outside without being exposed to their control. Everything we do and eat can be linked to some sort of government controlled agency.

So as appropriate as Pink Floyd's " Comfortably Numb" song is to your article, I would like to add another one of their lyrics....


Hush now baby, baby, don't you cry.
Mama's gonna make all your nightmares come true.
Mama's gonna put all her fears into you.
Mama's gonna keep you right here under her wing.
She won't let you fly, but she might let you sing.
Mama's gonna keep baby cozy and warm.
Ooooh baby, ooooh baby, oooooh baby,
Of course mama's gonna help build the wall.


Sun, 11/27/2011 - 15:09 | 1918213 NumberNone
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American's still accept that Vanna White is needed to turn the electronic letters on Wheel of Fortune.  What else needs to be said?

Sun, 11/27/2011 - 17:37 | 1918720 Mr. Magniloquent
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As a biochemist, I have found no such contaminants in public water. Jet-streams are merely water condensing under pressure provided by the wing-tips of aircraft, and cooling of combustion products (CO2, H2O) from the engines.

Lies are the only poison planted on such a wide-spread level by the US Government. Try to relax. You only reinforce the misplaced faith and trust in government when you theorize in such a manner. The war for our nation's minds is a philisophical battle, not chemical.

Sun, 11/27/2011 - 18:28 | 1918842 Cathartes Aura
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dude, seriously, who do you work for?

A method is described for reducing atmospheric or global warming resulting from the presence of heat-trapping gases in the atmosphere, i.e., from the greenhouse effect. Such gases are relatively transparent to sunshine, but absorb strongly the long-wavelength infrared radiation released by the earth. The method incudes the step of seeding the layer of heat-trapping gases in the atmosphere with particles of materials characterized by wavelength-dependent emissivity. Such materials include Welsbach materials and the oxides of metals which have high emissivity (and thus low reflectivities) in the visible and 8-12 micron infrared wavelength regions.


Can Chemtrails Be Proved?

By G. Edward Griffin
May 27, 2011

It seems that the die-hard skeptics refuse to believe what they see with their own eyes. No matter how many laboratory tests we collect, they always manage to come up with a theory that, no matter how far fetched it is, would explain the high levels of aluminum, barium, and strontium in our snow and rain water as merely due to some climate condition or error in preparing the chemical sample or some unintended human interaction.

obviously, I could go on & on. . .

Sun, 11/27/2011 - 22:30 | 1919685 i-dog
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One should ask him, firstly, where he lives. Then, secondly, whether he has personally analysed his air and/or water quality. Then, thirdly, how often. It's so easy for mind-numbed sheep to spout hysterical denials based only on belief - no matter how well [academically] qualified they may be.

FWIW, where I live, I have seen no obvious signs of chemtrails in the 4 years I have been aware of their publicity ... BUT, I do know from a trusted source that they were 'tested' here about 4 or 5 years ago (and do seem to recall seeing some even earlier than that).

Chemtrails are easily distinguished from contrails by their different persistence patterns (and one of my degrees is in Chemical Engineering ... while we are throwing around spurious 'arguments from authority' :-).

Sun, 11/27/2011 - 23:07 | 1919798 Mr. Magniloquent
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I worked with the Dandini Desert Research Institue while working towards my B.S. in Biochemistry & Molecular Biology at UNR.

Sun, 11/27/2011 - 23:49 | 1919908 i-dog
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I don't doubt your qualifications or sincerity (I always check a few previous posts before criticising somebody). However, you didn't answer the other two questions I posed: What have you tested for (rather than read about), and how often (one can be fairly certain that they don't spray the whole country every day for years on end!)?

Sun, 11/27/2011 - 22:51 | 1919762 Mr. Magniloquent
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What's your point? I read the entire patent pdf. It proposes a potential method for mitigating global warming. Does this prove that it is in practice employed on one aircraft, let alone a significant percentage? Furthermore, what evidence have you of the efficacy of these alleged additives for purposes of "mind control"?

How far did back in aviation did this consipiricy begin? These additives infiltrating the entire world's supply of aviation fuel pre-date WWII? Instead of looking for government conspiricy, how about plain old unforseen consequences of government stupidity?

People are finding strontium, thorium, and other radioactive isotopes within atmospheric air--particularly in the early 1990s when the chemtrails conspiricy reached its apex. Ever consider that many of these products found within the air are isotopes formed by nuclear reactions? There was quite a bit of nuclear testing in the later half of the 20th century--particularly before treaties were signed.

Chemtrail Conspiricy is just paranoid neo-luddites shaking in fear over natural phenomena, attempting to use science they don't understand to explain science they don't understand.

Tue, 11/29/2011 - 00:29 | 1924057 epwpixieq-1
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People will be surprised how much knowledge is lingering around unnoticed (in books), and ironically this statement is immensely true of the physical world, if only we could truly understand it. For example: An Essay on Electricity ( 1799 )

Chap XIX: On Atmospheric electricity ( p. 415)

For those who UNDERSTAND the laws of the flow of the electrical fluid, there are no natural secrets. Regrettably, only extremely few ones do, and even fewer can do something with this understanding.


Sun, 11/27/2011 - 21:47 | 1919582 Vlad Tepid
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I am neither a biochemist nor a breathless chemtrail..."devotee".  But I have read numerous scientific reports that document increasing saturation of public and tap water with anti-depressants, stimulants, cocaine, and all other manner of ilicit and legal drugs.  These must be having some effect...

Sun, 11/27/2011 - 23:03 | 1919790 Mr. Magniloquent
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There are a great deal of contaminants in public water. Do you want to guess how much estrogen you ingest annually because of flushed birth control pills? That's only one of the many different instances.

There is a stunning degree of arrogance displayed in many people by their willingness to "enhance" the water supply. I work personally with several physicians who believe Statins should be introduced to the water supply to fight high cholesterol. This is terrifying, considering it's proven that Statins toxify your liver.

Mon, 11/28/2011 - 04:49 | 1920289 tahoebumsmith
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Just come out to where I live and see it for yourself. You will have no explaination for the chemtrails they lay out everyday day. The sky starts off clear and by the end of the day it's nothing but a man made toxic haze. There is absolutely no doubt that they are spraying these chemicals into our skies. I don't care how many degrees you have, just use your eyes to determine the truth.

Sun, 11/27/2011 - 18:22 | 1918835 Dugald
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Get Maced at Macy's

Sun, 11/27/2011 - 12:23 | 1917544 Oh regional Indian
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She lives here in India now, a mere 100 miles away! ;-)


Sun, 11/27/2011 - 12:34 | 1917596 oddjob
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ORI, why is Simla now Shimla?

Sun, 11/27/2011 - 12:45 | 1917640 Oh regional Indian
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Shimla = original Indian Spelling/pronounciation

Simla = What the English made it. Easier. They did it to most places. So bombay/Mumbai, Peking/Beijing.

Like that.


Sun, 11/27/2011 - 13:24 | 1917774 Iwanttoknow
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Like Krakov bacame Crakow,like Abu Mohiuddin became Boumedieene.

Sun, 11/27/2011 - 16:44 | 1918557 Amish Hacker
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Woody Allen once suggested that the Russian Revolution began when the people finally got wise to the fact that the Tsar was the same person as the Czar.

Sun, 11/27/2011 - 13:52 | 1917789 TruthInSunshine
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As always, a fantastic article by Quinn.

I've resigned myself to the opinion that the cycle of dumbed down sheeple is just a bit of history repeating, and we've always had a proclivity as societies for a very tiny % of the people to do the heavy intellectual lifting, while those with lesser abilities do the heavy lifting, and for whatever the market for ditch diggers will bear (some heavy lifters do quite well, however, when there's a particular, honed skill involved, such as the master crafstman experienced in plaster work (drywall/sheetrock replaced plaster, essentially, to the point where very few contractors can do intricate plaster work), who are now being imported from other countries to restore Victorian era mansions purchased by those people who are so productive and create such a massive amount of employment (/sarc), bankers, asset managers, financial engineers/quants, etc.

Anyways, I'm going to go off topic now, but only because this is such a critical issue of the day. The Economist wrote a piece underscoring a very important and rarely mentioned (and rarely expounded upon or detailed) cause of our high structural unemployment today.

In that article, they essentially conclude that technology and digitization is destroying the demand for large swathes of low and even medium skilled labor.

As an example, they cite the fact that as of today, Apple, Google & Amazon, combined, employ a mere 1/3 (worldwide, not just in the U.S.) of the number of employees as General Motors (which had well over 90% of its employees in the U.S.) did in 1980.

On the other hand, Wal-Mart now employs a full 1% of Americans, is the largest employer in the U.S., and pays $8 to 12% per hour.

Now, I am not making any comments about politics or quality of fabrication or unions, etc. - I have an opinion on those things but it's not pertinent, IMO, to just the basic numbers regarding structural unemployment or the trend of increasing structural unemployment.

The fact is that there's every indication that the middle class is going to continue to shrink, structural unemployment will continue to worsen, and that the resulting political and social volatility as a result of a very and increasingly skewed income distribution curve will continue to grow.

Link to Blodgett basically (doing a good job) of breaking down The Economist article:

The Country's Structural Unemployment/Underemployment (with this rate running at a minimum of 30%, combined) Problem In A Nutshell: Large Companies Paying Middle Class Wages or Higher Only Employ a Sliver of the Number of Employees That They Used To


Sun, 11/27/2011 - 14:11 | 1917964 johny2
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I think it may be even worse than we realise. In 1907 JPM pulled fundings from Tesla, who was trying to find a way to provide free energy to everyone everywhere, without cables. Maybe Tesla would have failed to accomplish that, but JPM was not risking this possibility, and lobbied to stop anyone providing help to Tesla. And soon after JPM and his friends set up the FED and off we were to the economy based on ever increasing consumption and growth. Powered by polluting fossil oils and world wars..

Sun, 11/27/2011 - 15:04 | 1918199 Vendetta
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Not to defend JPM of 1907 however likely their objective was undoubtedly shady, but Tesla's concept of transmitting electrical energy via high energy radio frequency transmissions would have been very inefficient as losses accumulate at a rate roughly that of the square of the distance of transmission ... just saying.

Sun, 11/27/2011 - 15:15 | 1918233 johny2
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Tesla had a way of inventing things that did not exist before, and there is a possibility he would find a way with this as well. The sad part is that he was held back by JPM because this possible innovation could not be controlled by oilgarchy. That is the kind of men that have ruled USA since early 1900.

Sun, 11/27/2011 - 15:29 | 1918279 GeneMarchbanks
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Tesla had an opportunity to become the worlds first billionaire and passed it up saying 'money wasn't important' priding himself on being an engineer. While much of his work was confiscated, his work outside the AC power system was, at best, speculative. I wish not to downplay him or his contribution but sometimes these reports become legend. Suggesting that JPM was a culprit is dubious. Might as well also blame Edison.

Sun, 11/27/2011 - 15:58 | 1918386 johny2
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I think the fact that the car is more famous than the man himself, is not by chance. All innvention at the beggining is a speculation, and it only becomes something else when it is completed. I was not in the room with the JPM when he decided to stop the funds to Tesla. Also I was not on the Jeckyl Island when they set up the FED. Maybe if JPM could see the USA one hundred years in the future, he would have worked against the creation of the FED. But I think they have probably screwed humanity pretty badly.

Sun, 11/27/2011 - 18:37 | 1918881 TruthInSunshine
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Actually, we owe far more to Tesla than we do to Edison, for electricity as we know and consume it today.

Edison refused to acknowledge AC as a superior method of electricty transmission versus DC.

It is only because Ontario, Canada used Tesla's AC system at Niagara Falls that we didn't all have to live within a mile radius of an power plant.

Sun, 11/27/2011 - 19:10 | 1918984 johny2
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I agree 100%. Tesla towers above Edison both as engineer and as person. 

Sun, 11/27/2011 - 21:38 | 1919534 Old Poor Richard
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Tesla was an outstanding engineer, but his inventions we still use today (polyphase power, notably) were inevitable.  His notes are available and his desired results have not been reproduced.  It would have been interesting if he'd held Westinghouse to early contractual obligations, giving him a much larger bankroll of his own to continue experimentation.  But ultimately wireless power distribution would have still proven fruitless.


Tue, 11/29/2011 - 01:37 | 1924242 epwpixieq-1
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My response to Vendetta may be informative to you also.

Sun, 11/27/2011 - 20:16 | 1919244 boiltherich
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Not to mention the nasty shocks you got when you provided a ground for metal objects that were insulated otherwise. 

Tue, 11/29/2011 - 01:31 | 1924134 epwpixieq-1
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 You clearly do not have idea HOW Tesla was transmitting energy ( nothing personal ), many other technically educated/indoctrinated people do not. It was not via the Hertzian EM waves but via electrostatic pressure waves - dielectric disturbances. Read Charles Proteus Steinmetz, Oliver Heaviside, Reginald A. Fessenden ( in original) and after that read Tesla's explanation of his dielectric disturbances. Also do not forget to watch Eric Dollard, the only contemporary who was able to recreate some of Tesla's experiments:

Tesla's transmission of energy via dielectric disturbances was very efficient according his words - "pulses of electricity passed across the entire globe and returned with undiminished strength".  This is in total contrast with the totally draconian loss in Hertzian EM waves, that, by their definition, are pure loss (radiation) from a vibrating magneto-dielectric system.


Sun, 11/27/2011 - 14:40 | 1918091 macholatte
Sun, 11/27/2011 - 14:47 | 1918126 blunderdog
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It's a good idea to be clear on something whenever you hear the term "structural unemployment."

It refers to the structure created by our current POLICIES.  There's no mathematical or physical principles involved.

You can literally "fix" the structural unemployment problem within a year if you just change the way work is scheduled.  Put everyone to work for 3 days a week instead of five and what we call unemployment is gone.

This requires shifts of thinking in other areas, of course.  Even just suggesting a change to the workweek results in strong emotional reactions among a lot of people.

But that's just because most people don't like change.

Sun, 11/27/2011 - 15:05 | 1918185 TruthInSunshine
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I'm using 'structural unemployment/underemployment' as a phrase referring to that % of the ready, willing and able bodied population that can't find work (or enough hours of work) due to a fundamental change or alteration in the manner by which the economy functions, as interfered with and distorted by politicians and regulators and those having leverage over politicans and regulators (with politicans and regulators being the people deciding where taxdollars are [mis]allocated - for just one exampe of this, see TARP, a policy designed for the pure benefit of banks having close ties to The New York Branch of the Federal Reserve Bank & Hank Paulson).


Sun, 11/27/2011 - 15:20 | 1918245 blunderdog
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Oh, I understand your point--no dig at your perspective.  I was just mentioning that because as presented in the media and the world of political tropes, the term "structural" is often applied to something as an EXCUSE for why nothing can be done about it.  (As in the article you described.)

Sun, 11/27/2011 - 17:29 | 1918688 HungrySeagull
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And close out the evening shift and the night shft unless it is vital to the Nation.

Let the people sleep at night so they can rest and go do good work when it's time.


3 days a week for the same wages cost less and imposes less drain on POL etc.

Sun, 11/27/2011 - 13:23 | 1917771 Whoa Dammit
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Ah, but you are missing a lesson here grasshopper. If one wishes to cause a disturbance, toss a few xboxes into a crowd. ;-).

Sun, 11/27/2011 - 12:24 | 1917550 XRAYD
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If the ketle is going to boil, we are already frogs in it and it will be too late!

Sun, 11/27/2011 - 13:10 | 1917724 chubbar
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Apologies if this has been covered/posted.


"To recap for those who haven’t seen it: police in paramilitary gear line up in front of a group of Occupy protesters peacefully assembled on a quad pathway. Completely unprovoked, police decide to douse the whole group of sitting protesters with pepper spray. There is crying and chaos and panic, but the wheezing protesters sit resolutely in place and refuse to move despite the assault.

Finally, in what to me is the most amazing part, the protesters gather together and move forward shouting “Shame On You! Shame On You!” over and over again. You can literally see the painful truth of those words cutting the resolve of the policemen and forcing them backwards.

Glenn Greenwald’s post at Salon says this far better than I can, but there are undeniable conclusions one can draw from this incident. The main thing is that the frenzied dissolution of due process and individual rights that took took place under George Bush’s watch, and continued uncorrected even when supposed liberal constitutional lawyer Barack Obama took office, has now come full circle and become an important element to the newer political controversy involving domestic/financial corruption and economic injustice.

As Glenn points out, when we militarized our society in response to the global terrorist threat, we created a new psychological atmosphere in which the use of force and military technology became a favored method for dealing with dissent of any kind. As Glenn writes:

The U.S. Government — in the name of Terrorism — has aggressively para-militarized the nation’s domestic police forces by lavishing them with countless military-style weapons and other war-like technologies, training them in war-zone military tactics, and generally imposing a war mentality on them. Arming domestic police forces with para-military weaponry will ensure their systematic use even in the absence of a Terrorist attack on U.S. soil… It’s a very small step to go from supporting the abuse of defenseless detainees (including one’s fellow citizens) to supporting the pepper-spraying and tasering of non-violent political protesters.

Why did that step turn out to be so small? Because of the countless decisions we made in years past to undermine our own attitudes toward the rule of law and individual rights. Every time we looked the other way when the president asked for the right to detain people without trials, to engage in warrantless searches, to eavesdrop on private citizens without even a judge knowing about it, we made it harder to answer the question: What is it we’re actually defending?

In another time, maybe, we might have been able to argue that we were using force to defend the principles of modern Western civilization, that we were "spreading democracy."

Instead, we completely shat upon every principle we ever stood for, stooping to torture and assassination and extrajudicial detention.

From the very start we unleashed those despotic practices on foreigners, whom large pluralities of the population agreed had no rights at all. But then as time went on we started to hear about rendition and extralegal detention cases involving American citizens, too, though a lot of those Americans turned out to be Muslims or Muslim-sympathizers, people with funny names.

And people mostly shrugged at that, of course, just as they shrugged for years at the insane erosion of due process in the world of drug enforcement. People yawned at the no-knock warrants and the devastating parade of new consequences for people with drug convictions (depending on the state, losing the right to vote, to receive educational aid, to live in public housing, to use food stamps, and so on).

They didn’t even care much about the too-innocuously-named new practice of "civil asset forfeiture," in which the state can legally seize the property of anyone, guilty or innocent, who is implicated in a drug investigation – a law that permits the state to unilaterally deem property to be guilty of a crime.

Read more:


Sun, 11/27/2011 - 14:35 | 1918073 flattrader
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Thanks for posting that. Taibbi nailed it.

>>> Finally, in what to me is the most amazing part, the protesters gather together and move forward shouting “Shame On You! Shame On You!” over and over again. You can literally see the painful truth of those words cutting the resolve of the policemen and forcing them backwards.<<<

If they put us in indefinite detention without trial, they won't have to "look" at us.

I think OWS is the leading edge of the street level trouble to follow. Unlike the Tea Party, fat-assed Americans on board with the predator class agenda, OWS and what is follow will be different.

Corpgov doesn't like the looks of it and is getting ready.

Write your Senators.  Do it NOW!

Sun, 11/27/2011 - 16:24 | 1918465 NumberNone
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Until now there have been few pretty pictures showing the abuses.  Hard to fire up the masses with 'words'.

Unfortunately, this culture has been so desensitized I don't even know if images carry the weight they once did.  Now the public watch with disconnected indifference.  The more the abuse, the more the protest, the more entertaining the show.   "Don't Tase Me Bro"...funny stuff. 

Sun, 11/27/2011 - 18:39 | 1918885 Cathartes Aura
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Thanks for the link chubbar - and your added words.

the militarizing of the local police FORCEs continues, as now "Homeland Security" is making loans available for drones:

tested on the "foreigners" but coming to a street near you. . .

Sun, 11/27/2011 - 13:43 | 1917819 Smiley
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Americans are watching it boil from the inside and don't even know it; does that make us mindless sheep or stupid frogs?

Behold the fruits of the Department of Education coming to bear; 90% of all teachers are now just government employees directly or by proxy and Critical Thinking has successfully been eliminated from public teaching curriculum and history is now an exercise in examining the emotion of documents instead of facts.  PUBLIC EDUCATION IS A FUCKING JOKE IN AMERICA!

Next is health care, the vast majority of all medical expenses get billed to Medicare, Medicaid, or various other public assistance programs; I'd wager 75% of all doctors and nurses are now government employees by proxy and that is due to jump considerably in the next few years.

They got you by the balls and all the American populace can do is pitch a fit over who gets a free X-Box on black Friday and buying potato chips with EBT cards.


Yes the kettle will boil and when it does so much rendered putrefied cellulite goo will spill over a grease fire is inevitable.  Forget the sheep, save yourselves.

Sun, 11/27/2011 - 14:06 | 1917947 Teamtc321
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"Yes the kettle will boil and when it does so much rendered putrefied cellulite goo will spill over a grease fire is inevitable.  Forget the sheep, save yourselves."


Sun, 11/27/2011 - 14:29 | 1918041 No Mas
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Funny stuff!  A picture of the ZH faithful to go with another End Of the World!!!!! article.  By the way, tomorrow?  Market rips and people live.  They give not one damn what the idiots here are unable to comprehend.

By the way moron, police beating up on "teenagers?"  Yeah, that's what happened; cops wandering around looking for some honest and law abiding teens with young heads to crack open.  You're ignorant, lazy and simply irresponsible to write this drivel.  People who feel like they are the only ones that matter and deny access to public places to, well, the PUBLIC need to have their stupid heads cracked open.  Pity the fools?  Hardly.

Look fools, the Durdens are making a fortune off the ignorance of the ZH Sheeple but few will log on here and tell it like it is.  YOU guys need to get a life, get a woman, get the hell out and you'll see the sky has not fallen and idiots who love to post article such as this one are selling something; always selling something.

And what sells better than sex?  FEAR.  COme ZH Sheeple, grow a pair and get out out of this world of the damned.

Sun, 11/27/2011 - 16:00 | 1918401 stacking12321
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which bank do you work for, and how much do they pay you? BoA?

just curious.

Sun, 11/27/2011 - 16:22 | 1918472 chubbar
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Just a guess but I'd say he's a cop trying to justify the violence for his own conscience.

Sun, 11/27/2011 - 18:31 | 1918861 KIPPY KAPPSLOCK

Filthy Pig.  

Sun, 11/27/2011 - 19:10 | 1918986 Omen IV
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you must be a republican propagandist or a cop or a troll  or all three - which is it ?

because everything on that post was true and well said  - and any reasonable person would acknowledge that who has been around for more than 10 years

Sun, 11/27/2011 - 19:20 | 1919043 darkhorse222
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>>No Mass wrote: YOU guys need to get a life, get a woman, get the hell out and you'll see the sky has not fallen and idiots who love to post article such as this one are selling something;  


describing your own pathetic life by chance? if it were up to you -we would still be a colony of england. yes the founding fathers and revolutionary colonists were looked upon as 'the OWS of those days' by the Crown

You side with the crown(Bankers)-fascinating; Someone has to stand up and shine the light on the cockroaches that are destroying our country-you-would rather hide in your parents basement-maybe YOU should get

a life

Sun, 11/27/2011 - 22:19 | 1919686 StychoKiller
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I can think of $15TRILLION reasons why you need to check your premises...

Mon, 11/28/2011 - 00:35 | 1920057 Aeonios
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No Mas, isn't there a football game somewhere you should be watching?

Mon, 11/28/2011 - 10:27 | 1920717 mtomato2
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Why are you even here?  Idiot.  Glittering jewel of colossal ignorance.  Are you really as stupid as you make yourself sound, or are you just trolling out of boredom?

If you had any inkling of what Zero Hedge did and does, you would know that it takes, among other things, a bifurcated approach to viewing what is and what will be.

While showing and suggesting what should be happening during conventional times, it is simultaneously showing how THESE ARE NOT CONVENTIONAL TIMES!  And if you think they are, then it is you who is the poster child for "sheeple..."

Zero Hedge does the best job possible of navigating through the madness and projecting the madnesses' possible outcomes.

I motherfucking DARE you to do better.  And stay honest.



Sun, 11/27/2011 - 15:36 | 1918307 RafterManFMJ
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This is one of the best articles I've ever read here on 0H; so good it has neutered my usual irreverant snark. Question - where does he get those wonderful graphs?

Sun, 11/27/2011 - 20:56 | 1919364 philipat
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Excellent piece. This should be compulsory reading for every US citizen. Unfortunately, reading is difficult for most. It's easier just to switch on Faux Noise. Which is precisely the point.

Sun, 11/27/2011 - 11:57 | 1917449 aerojet
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There's nothing new here--all you keep doing is re-characterizing the problem.  What we need to know is:  What is the solution?

Sun, 11/27/2011 - 12:02 | 1917472 Pumpkin
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One thing and one thing only, lawful money.  Read 12USC411.

Sun, 11/27/2011 - 12:12 | 1917505 Conrad Murray
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You can start by stop looking for solutions. The solution is within. You know what to do. Do it.

Sun, 11/27/2011 - 12:22 | 1917538 WestVillageIdiot
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You hit it on the head.  Everybody wants that one overwhelming solution that will fix everything at once.  We all want that one magical dose of radiation that will entirely destroy the cancer.  But that is not what is going to happen.  That is not possible. 

This is about all of us worrying about our own actions, first and foremost.  What has each of us done?  My part has been small but I think I have done something.  I have lived my life free of debt.  I have shared ideas with each other.  I did this through conversation and email.  I said things that put my job at risk on many occasions.  I did not care because I spoke the truth.  I am sure that I could find a lot of people that would tell you I made them very uncomfortable over the past 6 years.  I bet 90% of them would also thank me for forcing them to see things differently.

I did not change the world.  I did not cause a worldwide revolution.  But I can guarantee that I spread some truth into the corners of the world where I had some say.  That is what each and every one of us needs to do.  Keep speaking the truth in our own little circles.  Even when it could lead to personal difficulty.  Pretty soon you find out that those circles converge and intersect into a larger circle. 

Nothing will be fixed overnight.  Be honest with yourself.  The only thing you can control is your own actions.  Make sure you do that right and you will find that you can look yourself in the mirror.

Sun, 11/27/2011 - 13:40 | 1917838 Abitdodgie
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A good way of taking your consent away from the Government is to STOP paying taxes and take your sovereignty back. I say again " The Errant Sovereigns Handbook" by Augustus Blackstone, it is a free download , and you to could become a "we the people " insted of being a United States Corporation citizen with no rights. If everyone did this we would get our country back but ufortunatly most people are all hat and no cows or is that all talk and no balls.

Sun, 11/27/2011 - 15:13 | 1918225 Blythes Master
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I've said this before and you can watch the bulbs come on as the message sinks in.

If the gubmint can just conjure money out of thin air when they need it, then why **WHY** do we need to pay federal taxes anymore?


Yeah, let that sink in for a moment....

Sun, 11/27/2011 - 15:27 | 1918273 Whoa Dammit
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Volunteering for the Ron Paul campaign would be a start to help take our country back. He's looking for folks to help with telephone and door-to-door campaigning in most states. A bunch of well spoken ZH volunteers could do a lot of good for him.

Sun, 11/27/2011 - 17:23 | 1918678 stacking12321
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thanks for the note about the handbook, i just downloaded it and started reading it.

have you personally gone through the steps detailed therein?

how has it worked out for you?


Sun, 11/27/2011 - 21:44 | 1919559 Abitdodgie
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Yes I have and was a very big skeptic but after fileing my UUC-1 ,then EVERYTHING changed the only thing that i have noticed is as time goes on the Government is bending more rules in there favor and so less recourse is avaialble, however I would NEVER go back as I was because the world changes 

Sun, 11/27/2011 - 12:26 | 1917560 TheLooza
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Short nflx?

Sun, 11/27/2011 - 12:31 | 1917584 WestVillageIdiot
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NFLX is currently down about 78% from its high.  The key is to find the next NFLX before it becomes the next NFLX.  The best way to profit is via options.  Unfortunately, everyrhing about options is timing.  I tried that game for the past 5 years and got crucified.  I am now content to let the NFLX of the world die without me.  I will not be able to profit from their demise.  I will not send a bouquet.  I will just go about my life, with less stress.  History has taught me that this is the best I can hope for. 

Good luck to you and I hope you are able to dance on the graves of LNKD, P, LULU, CMG, etc.  

Sun, 11/27/2011 - 12:13 | 1917510 Freddie
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Start by unplugging the TV.  It enpowers them and is used to control the sheep. Sadly the dumb fu*ks like watching ball games, reality shows and other BS.  Your viewership keeps them in control.  The sheep are too stupid to shut it off.  They love the daily brainwashing.

Sun, 11/27/2011 - 12:26 | 1917561 Oh regional Indian
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Agree completely. TV is the death-star.... Distributed death-star.


Sun, 11/27/2011 - 12:54 | 1917667 Thorny Xi
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Television - a remarkable technology that trains countless millions to sit passively while staring at a blinking light in a hypnotic state.  I reject it, as I sit in front of a computer monitor, passively adding to the files at the NSA with my useless comments on various blogs!

Sun, 11/27/2011 - 14:57 | 1918148 TruthInSunshine
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Television was the first technology that allowed people to see what other people were obtaining via borrowing money, and that allowed marketers to communicate in real time with their audience/psychological subjects/marks (newspaper and magazine ads and radio couldn't effectively allow for the full sensory experience the wizards of marketing needed), and that simultaneously allowed people to be endlessly made completely passive sponges of images, sounds, statements, slogans, suggestions, mis-dis-incomplete-sterilized-massaged information because it entertained them.

Television the first real conduit whereby John Smith learned that Henry Marbury was living in a house 3x the size of his own (with attached garage and many modern conveniences), drove a convertible, ate Swanson's prepared dinners, was healthy and strong because of daily vitamins, and had a wife as beautiful as Marilyn Monroe and three perfect children and the world's cutest dog.

Television showed the 90% (or greater percentages, depending on the country) how the 'other half' was supposed to live (or what marketers would have them belief was the average, other half) or risk being a complete and abject failure ("Successful people buy [insert brand X here] Mr. & Mrs. Smith").

All of this was piped, like tap water, into homes where people used to have to engage a portion of their brain, which is what reading and even listening to the radio (one has to use their imagination when listening to the radio) require, even at fairly basic levels, if they wanted some stimulation. Television requires absolutely no work or thinking or imagination on the part of the viewer.

Television is the most powerful marketing, propagandizing, political and social tool ever invented.

Sun, 11/27/2011 - 15:21 | 1918247 Oh regional Indian
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Well said TIS. Media = Creators of Cognitive Dissonance



Sun, 11/27/2011 - 18:13 | 1918812 Hobbleknee
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C'mon guys, TV is just a tool, and like all tools, it can be used for good and bad things. True, many are brainwashed by it, but many also watch quality educational programing like SpongeBob.

Sun, 11/27/2011 - 13:10 | 1917714 DormRoom
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great BBC documentary on Edward Bernays and the moderm IR apparatus, which turn active citizens, into passive consumers.  As long as the middle class is passive, they will not aspire to overthrow the ruling elites.


Century of the Self

Sun, 11/27/2011 - 16:09 | 1918420 Reformed Sheep
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All of this guys documentaries are eye-opening. The three-part series "The Trap" is must-view material, IMHO.

"The Power of Nightmares", too... very sobering.


Sun, 11/27/2011 - 12:27 | 1917563 gmrpeabody
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I wonder what you watch?

Sun, 11/27/2011 - 12:34 | 1917595 WestVillageIdiot
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I'm watching the Serial Negger work the board on this Sunday morning.  Apparently there is some pathetic phuck sitting at home with a hardon for this thread, throwing out every neg he can.  I always wonder just how pathetic a person's life must be to get a rise by doing such a thing.  Must be a Goldman employee. 

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 08:29 | 1929231 matrix2012
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All these names: BBC, YOUTUBE, WIKIPEDIA, FACEBOOK, GOOGLE (VIDEO) and many others... are the tools of TPTB or its affiliated parties, someway and somehow.
I don't put too much trust in those materials produced by or made available thru their services!
Just watch out the folks behind these tools!

Sun, 11/27/2011 - 16:36 | 1918525 NoClueSneaker
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Done. About 15 yrs. ago.

Sun, 11/27/2011 - 20:40 | 1919312 krispkritter
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Took both of the tube versions out back and we used them for target practice for an afternoon: 45-70, .223, 12ga., and a few others. Felt really good knowing I won't have my brain sucked out by that mindless BS again.  Now if I could just tear myself away from Youtube...y'know...the ones with boobs in the preview pics. Damnitall...

Sun, 11/27/2011 - 12:21 | 1917535 Taint Boil
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Yeah, but it needs to be repeated over and over  - kind of like how Fox News does it.

Sun, 11/27/2011 - 12:35 | 1917600 Taint Boil
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Who junked me? Do I need to cut your mic? LOL

Sun, 11/27/2011 - 12:41 | 1917617 WestVillageIdiot
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There's a Fred Sanford, serial junker on the loose this morning.  Pretty sad specimen. 

Sun, 11/27/2011 - 12:27 | 1917545 SRSrocco
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The Unted States is in serious trouble as is many of the western economies.  After looking at the situation for many years, I have come to believe that there is no real solution to the problems we face.  Collapse and disintegration is the outcome and there is really not much we can do about it.

We are in far worse shape than we were in the 1930's.  At least back then we were just starting to tap into all this abundant oil, mineral resources, and etc.  Today we don't have that in our "Savings Account" to fall back on to pull us out of this mess. 

What will more than likely happen after the GREAT COLLAPSE, is a return to a more local and simple economy.  Sure... technology will still be around, but not in the current high precentage that it is today. 

In reality... Technology has really not made our lives BETTER,  instead we are just moving around faster while using up resources quicker.  Walking is healthier than driving a car.  There is a great deal of EGO attached to technology.  Don't get me wrong, I like technology myself, but in the end it really doesn't matter what I like.... it matters what the system will be able to provide.

The big cities are by far the worst candidates for surviving the GREAT COLLAPSE.  It's best to be in a smaller town-city next to farm or ranch land that will be able to provide food without the GRAND SUPPLY CHAIN SYSTEM we have currently...that too will disintegrate at some point in time.

Again, there are no good solutions, but the best you can do is to put oneself in the an sustainable environment to survive the GREAT COLLAPSE.

Sun, 11/27/2011 - 12:51 | 1917663 VyseLegendaire
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Bingo. Our civilization is high on energy and low on morality or efficiency.  The only way to build a sophisticated society is to start with a morally upright basis.  We have failed at this project, leterrip.

Sun, 11/27/2011 - 12:59 | 1917686 Thorny Xi
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Unfortunately, during a collapse, morality generally loses to cannibalism.  Building a moral society from the surviving cannibals is far more difficult than the opposite path.

Sun, 11/27/2011 - 13:36 | 1917805 SRSrocco
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Stages of Collapse

Stage 1: Financial collapse. Faith in "business as usual" is lost. The future is no longer assumed resemble the past in any way that allows risk to be assessed and financial assets to be guaranteed. Financial institutions become insolvent; savings are wiped out, and access to capital is lost.

Stage 2: Commercial collapse. Faith that "the market shall provide" is lost. Money is devalued and/or becomes scarce, commodities are hoarded, import and retail chains break down, and widespread shortages of survival necessities become the norm.

Stage 3: Political collapse. Faith that "the government will take care of you" is lost. As official attempts to mitigate widespread loss of access to commercial sources of survival necessities fail to make a difference, the political establishment loses legitimacy and relevance.

Stage 4: Social collapse. Faith that "your people will take care of you" is lost. As local social institutions, be they charities, community leaders, or other groups that rush in to fill the power vacuum, run out of resources or fail through internal conflict.

Stage 5: Cultural collapse. Faith in the goodness of humanity is lost. People lose their capacity for "kindness, generosity, consideration, affection, honesty, hospitality, compassion, charity" (Turnbull, The Mountain People). Families disband and compete as individuals for scarce resources. The new motto becomes "May you die today so that I die tomorrow" (Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago). There may even be some cannibalism.


This if from Dmitry Orlov who wrote about the collape of the Soviet Union and how the United States is falling right in line.  We don't have to go through all 5 stages, but we will more than likely hit STAGE 4.

We had the Financial Collapse - STAGE 1 in 2008 when the banking system imploded.  Everything in Stage 1 has taken place except for savings being WIPED OUT due to the FDIC coming in and backstopping everyone's accounts.  Furthermore, the FASB has allowed the banks to MARK TO MODEL their assets... so this has given us the ILLUSION that the banks are still solvent.

We are now getting ready to enter STAGE 2 or the Commerical Collapse, and this is where the real FUN begins.  According to the present economic and financial siituation, we could head into stage 2 within the next 2-6 months.

Sun, 11/27/2011 - 13:55 | 1917896 g speed
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Thanks-- short and to the point--easy to understand-- I will copy and print-- place a copy over my desk and review as the world turns-- and modifiy my plans as needed(daily)

big +1 to you

Sun, 11/27/2011 - 20:01 | 1919189 Mediocritas
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You just helped me, I've been trawling Automatic Earth for days trying to find the "stages of collapse" article they had posed in the past (no luck with Google). Thanks.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 12:50 | 1930706 matrix2012
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@Mediocritas, perhaps this one is what you're looking for.

Btw, give or a try - don't rely overly on google. Or if you insist on it, try to accomplish it via (Gibiru Search Engine Proxy & Alternative Search Engine).


As quoted from cluborlov blog (credits to Jerry McManus & kollapsnik):

The Economic Collapse - How It Will Happen

Oddly, that video ends up being an ad for stockpiles of freeze dried food (a la Matt Savinar) :D

Anyhow here are the 13 steps to economic collapse as articulated by Dmitry Orlov and Automatic Earth during the Orcas lecture:

One: Imports to the country increase drastically as exports decrease.

Two: Federal reserve introduces more money to lend as the number of individual and corporate borrowers soars. The stock market goes up, saturated by investment money as the bubble gets bigger.

Three: Imported goods are preferred over domestic goods, mainly because of price but for other reasons as well. Borrowing continues to increase.

Four: Money pours out of the country as more and more imports pour in. Credit becomes tighter as there is not enough money left to keep the economy running as it should.

Five: The reduced amount of money causes a reduction in capital expenditures which in turn causes recessions. Many businesses close or downsize and layoffs increase.

Six: Banks stop lending money because they are afraid of the increasing bad debt.

Seven: Credit dries up. Many small businesses go bankrupt. Unemployment increases as more and more people get laid off.

Eight: The stock market bubble pops and plunges into a deep bear market as conditions become worse.

Nine: People with paper money start hoarding it and not putting it in banks. Some people withdraw their savings from banks to keep it on hand. As paper money stops circulating and disappears, then economic depression sets in.

Ten: Cash becomes scarce as banks limit withdrawals in an attempt to prevent runs.

Eleven: Many banks fail due to bad loans and bank runs. Inflation rises dramatically.

Twelve: People with paper money start getting rid of it in exchange for hard assets. Suddenly there is more money in circulation than there are goods to be purchased, which causes hyperinflation.

Thirteen: The government tries to allocate scarce resources and the black market for goods increases.

At this point the economy as we know it will have collapsed entirely.

We appear to be somewhere between steps Five and Seven. Can bank runs and black markets be far behind?


Also here's an interesting book "Scarcity - Humanity's Final Chapter" by Christopher O. Clugston (1.40 MB, pdf)

(Nonrenewable Natural Resource Scarcity - Causes, Implications, and Consequences)
get a free pdf copy at here:


When being at above link, just click at File menu (immediately below the row 'Chris Clugston—Scarcity.pdf') then select Download original to save a pdf copy.


Google Internet Censorship

Talking about Google, one may wanna test the search results of "Dr Leslie Sachs" or "Dr Les Sachs" (a Polish Jew who lived in the Netherlands and Belgium since escaping threats targeting him inside the USA)... just compare the search results among various search engines (yahoo!, bing, teoma, etc) vs google's one!

More about Google internet search censorship:

EU Report, Google Inc. Anti-Competition Crimes & Deception

OR (use browser)



Sun, 11/27/2011 - 14:14 | 1917972 boiltherich
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When the vast majority wake to find they live in tyranny there is always someone in the crowd to say it is due to immorality.  Ironic that I find myself utterly unable to choose between "the people" and their phony and exclusive "morality" based upon Jewish tribal texts that were appropriate for the subjugation of the superstitious ignorant people and thus empowering the ruling class of that era thousands of years ago, and the oppressors that today have destroyed our government but which protect my ass from the hypocrites that seek to take over.  I can't side with a government that seeks to rule from fiat for the benefit of a very VERY few, and I can't side with the wingnut bible thumping haters in the public.


Sun, 11/27/2011 - 19:32 | 1918906 TruthInSunshine
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Why did cathedrals in feudal Europe have stained glass windows?


Stained glass windows were like a comic book, conveying verses of the bible to the plebes, because barely 1 in 300 people knew how to read or write in the middle ages in Europe.

So why didn't the leaders of the day OR THE PRIESTS/CHURCH not invest resources into teaching people how to read?

My big old 'conspiracy theory' is that why in the hell would the leaders of the day OR THE PRIESTS/CHURCH want to empower people by teaching them how to read....and.....


.....risk having them think or act INDEPENDENTLY!!!!

Sun, 11/27/2011 - 19:52 | 1919158 Cathartes Aura
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historically, the bible was one of the only books around, and it was forbidden to be read except by the Church High Priests - education was for the ruling class, and the Priests were that.

the Dark Ages, hosted by the Roman Catholic Church.

Sun, 11/27/2011 - 20:22 | 1919267 boiltherich
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Also only allowed to be printed in Latin since only the equivalent of a PhD of that time could read Latin, it was one of the things that first put Martin Luther at odds with the church, his interpretation of the bible into German.  Later Henry VIII wanted to print it in English and that contributed to his own problems with Peter's Rock.

Sun, 11/27/2011 - 21:35 | 1919521 HungrySeagull
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And that is where Martin Luther stayed in a protected Castle for a year to write the Bible into a Common Language anyone could understand. That broke the shackles of the Catholic Power.

Mon, 11/28/2011 - 01:32 | 1920137 palmereldritch
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Imagine how long the Gutenberg press would have been tolerated if not for the Bible project.  At the very least they would have retained it for printing debt notes.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 21:09 | 1931168 matrix2012
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Somewhere in the net I once read over below:

There are three direct Vatican Banking mechanisms used to channel money into the United States:

(i) The Vatican Bank number UID# 014780 BIC/SWIFT : IOPRVAVX a.k.a ISTITUTO PER LE OPERE DI RELIGIONE of VATICAN CITY in the VATICAN CITY STATE and for which there are seven (7) banking participants as the landing banks for international wire transfers into the USA and who directly benefited by putting Obama into office:

0008 CITIBANK, N.A.;

needless to say the Vatican Bank and the participating banks are generally owned by the Vatican through the Rothschild who have managed the Vatican asset SINCE 1824 and keep that control tightly within the family circle even as far back as ALEXANDER HAMILTON who having married a Rothschild cousin setup the BANK OF NEW YORK in 1784 that only after great effort became chartered after 1791 when he became the US Treasurer; and

(ii) further, the INTERNATIONAL CATHOLIC UNION OF THE PRESS (UCIP) is used for the World Forum of Professionals and Institutions in Secular and Religious Media with the Address: UCIP, CP 197, 1211 Geneva 20, Switzerland and the Vatican name of the account holder: UCIP with the name of the Bank: IOR, Vatican Swiftcode: IOPRVAVX Account number in Europe: 16586001 and in which the Vatican Interbank clearing account in the US is with JPM CHASE MANHATTAN BANK NEW YORK Account no.: 001-1-97500; and

(iii) further yet, The Vatican Bank: ISTITUTO PER LE OPERE DI RELIGIONE = INSTITUTE FOR THE RELIGION WORKS in which the Institute for Works of Religion (Italian: Istituto per le Opere di Religione – IOR) commonly known as Vatican Bank was formed during World War 2 and is located inside the Vatican City.


How about the blending of the two immense forces (or just a collaboration between the two)? Yet who is the #1...who is the #2 ???  Who's the prime mastermind? the largest stakeholders? Is it the ROTXXXXXX & Associates OR THE UNHOLINESS??? It's still perplexing.... nevertheless both hands are dirty and bloody! Read below the *immense* info!

The Most Powerful...

The End Warning...

The J-Gen...

Sun, 11/27/2011 - 15:41 | 1918324 boiltherich
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"...the best you can do is to put oneself in the an sustainable environment to survive the GREAT COLLAPSE."

I usually agree with you SRSrocco, but not this time, not the solution you provide anyway, I agree with a lot of the rest though.  By the way, that is NOT my red arrow on your post because I do not think posters deserve a red arrow for disagreeing with some batshit crazy Reichwingers that go around downing every post you write just because you had the nerve to call them what they are. 

It is your conclusion I can't agree with, ah yes, the solution that only works for those who already have access to liquidity.  And when we do not get to that sustainable self reliant place and get crushed by the GREAT COLLAPSE it will be nobodies fault but our own!  (/sarc)

I would love nothing more than to go out to a rural region and get 40+ acres (at minimum ) to be self sustaining, a mule, and a collection of every Mother Earth News ever published, but that takes money NOW!  Or, did I missed the ads for the free land?  Free well digging?  Free septic systems?  Free seed? 

Reality says that red state rural regions do exist but they are not free, and if people do take your advice a lot of people will head from the urban blue spaces for the sticks, massively driving up the cost of the sticks while still leaving behind a majority of the population who will still bear the brunt of what is to come, many if not most of them will die.  The "fuck you Charlie, I am getting out of Dodge and good luck to you" attitude is a MAJOR part of our current problem.  The real problem is we have to come together and stick together to survive no less affect what is to come, the I have mine and fuck you system of dealing with reality is part of our master's master plan.  Divide the conquered so they stay that way.  Worked in France for the duration of the war.  Of course anything involving surrender works in France.  ;)

My point is, in a greatly reduced population world what you say works well.  And fine for those with both the willingness and resources to do it.  But the VAST majority of people now have negative net worth, or bad credit, and cannot do it unless they squat on other people's (or government) land.  Who here is willing to put tears and toil into building a life on land they have no legal right to be on?  Most will rather become soldiers in your enemies army searching for those who resist the needs of the many and it's "common good."  In fact they will become the enemy just to survive.  And I can't blame them, I don't like it but I see the rantings of the right and I read your comment on how to get through the nearing catastrophe and all I can think about is how the many will survive and how they can survive when all other options are denied them.  I never condemn a person for doing what they MUST to survive, because you cannot have anything else without survival. 

Sun, 11/27/2011 - 17:50 | 1918745 SRSrocco
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I totally understand what you are saying BOILTHERICH... but what can we do?  The leadership to help transition the masses is to a different way of life is nonexistent.  We either have a ORDERLY DECLINE or the GRAND COLLAPSE. 

It is our nature as humans to try to survive.  I have tried to tell family and friends to make the transition, but they say the homesteading or self-sufficient lifestyle is TOO MUCH WORK or is not their CUP OF TEA.  Can you really blame me for trying to survive the GRAND COLLAPSE by making a move? 

I do realize there is not enough room for the population to move to the country... but, there is a way to transition to a more simple and local way of life.  The problem is the US GOVT-LEADERSHIP is not even considering this as an option.  Basically its,  CONTINUED INFINITE GROWTH.  That is why I see the worst of the two outcomes.

Lastly, my move to the country and a more simple life is not just to survive the GREAT CRASH, but to eat better quality food we grow and raise as well as live less stressful lifestyle.  Even if the United States does not collapse... we will stay out in the country and live by our own means.

I wish I had better news or options for everyone...

Sun, 11/27/2011 - 20:01 | 1919184 Rhodin
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Collapse is coming, slowly.  It may be a good thing overall.   If governments and energy companies have collapsed, they will not be sending private and government hitmen to suppress the Tesla style free energy device inventors.

Technology is not evil so much as is its central control by corporate government hybrids.  One generation without invention suppression might be enough to build a free society, if we are lucky enough to not be killed off by radiation from power plant meltdowns during collapse.  Surviving the chaotic changeover period will be a challenge for many though.


Sun, 11/27/2011 - 12:29 | 1917577 Oh regional Indian
Sun, 11/27/2011 - 12:32 | 1917587 nabi
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The sad fact is that there is no solution that keeps the current system intact.  We are past the point of no return, and the entire structure of our civilized world will have to be razed in order for a true fix to be implemented...


Sun, 11/27/2011 - 12:48 | 1917651 boiltherich
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That really is sad because it is only the current high tech industrial civilization that even allows 7 billion people to live in a space where the natural carrying capacity is closer to 1 billion.  If we cannot sustain the modern social organization model billions will die and all of us will be hungry, the whole globe will be very much like the siege of Leningrad where rations were cut over and over till they were down to 150 calories worth of bread per day for each resident.  Just because we reside in the "breadbasket" of the world will not exempt us when pesticides and fertilizers are no longer available, nor transport for finished foods. 

Sun, 11/27/2011 - 15:49 | 1918353 Are you kidding
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If it gets that'll relish "hitting the fields for a little protein"...many people eat grasshoppers and other insects.  It's good to be the farmer.

Mon, 11/28/2011 - 11:50 | 1921018 boiltherich
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True AYK, and I bet eagle is tasty as are sea otters, if you are hungry enough the common garter snake will do, but Bear Grillis I am not (though I would do him...just saying).

My point is that just as in Leningrad there will be survivors, skinny but alive, and some will live because they were so freaking obese to start with, others because they have positions of power and can get food, the leaders in Leningrad did not go hungry often even as the city starved.  But, every single person that went through that siege was scarred for life by the death and suffering of millions of people.  Every person lost loved ones, friends.  And for what?  In the case of Leningrad it was for an ideal and many people cannot understand why they did not just surrender when Stalin sent no help after a year, two, longer.  In our case when it comes it will not be for an ideal or a necessity of holding out against the Nazis as long as we can, but to insure that bankers get to take over the world.  If we are going down then call me a commie if you want but I say we all go down together.  If people are hoarding wealth, assets, gold, food, whatever then they are NOT working to find a solution to the problems we all have to solve together or we die.  That in my book makes these hoarders as bad or worse than fat fuckers doing this to us, they are the collaborators willing or not of the bankster crimes. 

Sun, 11/27/2011 - 14:13 | 1917985 B-rock
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He's spreading the word, you moron.

Sun, 11/27/2011 - 14:32 | 1918054 SheepHerder
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Off the top of my head I'd say

1. Stop watching TV

2. Start a small group of friends that read books like Propaganda, Common Sense, CIA's Psychological Warfare Guide ( has many others) watch movies like Century of Self, Money Masters

3. Get your friends together, write one page articles like the above and distribute in your neighborhood, super market, mall, etc.

4.  Feed the homeless, volunteer in the community while using many of the techniques in the CIA guide above as well as Bernay's techniques in Propaganda

5. Work with local businesses to establish a local economy and currency (see for here for model)

6. Stop paying all bank debt in an effort to collapse the national monetary system

7. Work with other citizens to establish a date in which a good percentage of Americans will refuse to pay taxes in an effort to collapse the national monetary system

8. Educate the youth via material in number #2(Google's pdf search function "subject" filetype:pdf)

I'm interested in finding like minded people who are interested in taking action on these immediately and replacing OWS with a more intellectual and psychological operation to fight the system.  Anyone else interested write me at justice.nine gmail.

Sun, 11/27/2011 - 20:57 | 1919366 philipat
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Ron Paul?

Mon, 11/28/2011 - 00:42 | 1920065 Aeonios
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Solution: Move to Kenya!

Sun, 11/27/2011 - 12:01 | 1917460 williambanzai7
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When you are speaking of those of the so called asset class, it is more than willful ignorance. It is complicity in supporting the Ponzicrats. Their anger is not disgust at the pillaging, it is frustration that the game is unraveling, hopium not withstanding.

Scapegoating OWS will not derail the great deleveraging.

Sun, 11/27/2011 - 12:06 | 1917487 Oh regional Indian
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Unfortunately for most Goats, the great deleveraging will not derail the scapegoating.


Sun, 11/27/2011 - 12:26 | 1917562 WestVillageIdiot
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The men in charge are committed to staying in charge.  To what extent cannot be underestimated.  They are also good at bringing in legions of Ivy League drones to keep them propped up.  I have seen this firsthand.  An acquaintance that is such a drone at one of the major companies that keeps the financial fustercluck going was speaking to me just last week.  The things he said made me realize that, even at a young age, he is already a functional sociopath (or pshychotic).  It doesn't really matter which.  The level to which this person has been brainwashed, to support his spot in the machine, is truly frightening. 

The only thing that can defeat this level of brainwashing and deceit is the truth.  There is no substitute for the truth.  That is what can throw a wrench in the machine they have created and they know it.  Everything they do is meant to hide, or kill, the truth.  It is as simple as that. 

Sun, 11/27/2011 - 13:39 | 1917832 pain_and_soros
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I believe most adults are not oblivious to what is happening economically and deep down they know there is something seriously wrong. 

Those employed in the FIRE, governmental (& mass media) sectors may see the issues but choose to become part of the "system" thinking it affords them personally the best chances for economic survival & maintenance of the status quo (provide job security, social safety net, etc.).  Thoughts that the entire financial, governmental & social systems will come crashing down all around them, leaving them even more vulnerable and hopeless are dismissed as impossible, so their "buy-in" and loyalty to the current system & status quo is complete and unequivocal.

Those employed in the real economy that produce real products who are being squeezed out by the FIRE & government sectors are much more aware of the issues and how they may be impacted and more inclined to think independently and oppose the status quo, but they also realize their precarious position and won't want to rock the boat too much, fearing they may endanger their own position and instead go on hoping that somehow we muddle through this.

It is only the marginalized - those who have lost it all so they have nothing left to lose, supported by the relatively few principled people in positions of power & influcence, who are trying to challenge the system & status quo, tho their voices are often ignored or distorted by mainstream media, leaving them with little to no effect.

Unfortunately, it is only this latter group that can effect change but only if they are able to organize themselves into a coherent political movement that is able to define the issues and prescribe solutions in an understandable, reasonable manner which then catalyzes those disenfranchised by the status quo.  I'm not sure that is possible at least until a majority of people are in the latter category, which means only after financial (& social) collapse and at that point, the prospects for a reasonable solution get dimmer and the odds for another Hitler increase exponentially...

Sun, 11/27/2011 - 14:35 | 1918074 Vendetta
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when pavlov's laboratories in Moscow were flooded by torrential rains, of the surviving dogs subjected to his bell-ringing conditioning, none of the conditioning remained and he had to start over

Sun, 11/27/2011 - 13:21 | 1917752 Zero Debt
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When the scapegoating starts, sheep will not necessarily fare any better than goats.

Sun, 11/27/2011 - 12:27 | 1917564 ISEEIT
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Scapegoating OWS? I honestly ask what you mean by that. I (believe) that I understand that you have choosen to associate with OWS and proximity is likely to lead a good soul (yours) to sympathy. I don't have any problem with the individuals participating in OWS. What I do have a problem with is that I remain convinced that they are being abused as useful idiots. They do not protest the regime underlying wallstreet. It is my opinion (and opinions can change) that these good people are unwittingly being abused as suckers that naively have been conditioned to demand further abuse. Wallstreet is a symptom. 

Excessive consolidation of power is the disease and these good people seek a remedy to be provided by the very government that is in fact the disease. I feel solidarity with these individuals who have participated in OWS. I also see them as manipulated fools who are clueless as to the true cause of their discontent.

I'll support OWS when OWS targets the beast of the federal government itself. By focusing on the 'rich' and the 'rich' paying their 'fair' share you accomplish nothing good. The 'rich' will only be defined down to the point that we all are increasingly forced to subsidize an enormous and disgustingly corrupt Federal beast government. That IS the military/industrial complex and IT IS real and OWS in no way communicates a desire to end that. They only ask for a slice of that pie.



Sun, 11/27/2011 - 14:14 | 1917971 Billy Bob
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I See It

I agree with most of your statement.  Many on this forum expend a lot of energy attacking the Federal Government in general and one or the other of the two parties.  But just as the OWS demonstrators miss the actual problem and  just as the Tea Party misses the actual problem, so do most of the politically driven complaints about government leaders, left or right.

The actual problems occur in a the miss characterization of the problem as socialism, when in reality the problem is corporatism and the rivers of special interest money...... in fact the very purchase of our democracy and our culture by Military/Industrial complex and the financial interests.

The problems are likely insurmountable not only due to the power of money in our society, but more pervasively our cultural support for violent action at both an individual level and national level, and a patriotic christianist exceptional-ism.


Sun, 11/27/2011 - 20:14 | 1919234 Rhodin
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The rich own the corporations.

The corporations buy the politicians.

Thus the government does the bidding of the rich.

Therefore the rich are the root problem, and reforming the government is impossible without removing them from their positions of power.


Sun, 11/27/2011 - 13:10 | 1917715 Quaderratic Probing
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Your art just kills me ..... The whole baby boom was trained to pick from 4 possible answers provided by the teacher. Two from left field and two with similar wording and you pick one answer. The whole adult population is waiting for the media to tell them the choice they have. We live in a society of Parrots, everyone repeats what they hear without any depth of thought. Look at the Parrots repeating "BAILOUT" like its a good thing and its not us that will pay Just the way the owners want it. Maybe you can do some "Parrot thinking" art

Sun, 11/27/2011 - 12:01 | 1917467 xcehn
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Had there not been a draft in the 60s, would we have had protests over the Vietnam War?  People get awakened only when they feel they absolutely must.

Sun, 11/27/2011 - 12:16 | 1917516 SMG
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Economic conditions are going to keep getting worse.   At some point conditions will be bad enough for mass protests.  If the mob can be led in the right direction, I think there is still hope.

Sun, 11/27/2011 - 12:35 | 1917597 XitSam
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I kinda see a problem, both with the "led" part, and the "right direction" part.

Sun, 11/27/2011 - 12:39 | 1917613 Conrad Murray
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And that is what this crucial time in history will be remembered for. Were the people further led astray by the corruptors who brought them to the brink, or were they, through their own capabilities and with the the divine guidance of reason and enlightenment, set back on the path to liberty. I'm riding this motherfucker til the wheels fall off, two guns up.

Sun, 11/27/2011 - 12:53 | 1917669 boiltherich
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More than once I posted on the future potentials of holding a passport from a NEUTRAL island nation, preferably a green and pastoral place.  Looks like we are getting close to the day when that extra passport will be very handy indeed.

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 05:04 | 1934212 matrix2012
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Just imagine...

In the declining and worsening times of limited hays and other crucial resources, if the HIGHNESS SHEPHERDS are able to LEAD the weak, redundant and/or sickening SHEEPS in excess into the slaughter houses, leaving intact just the healthy, useful and productive ones, such population culling may alleviate the underlying problems... or at least buying more time before the inescapable.

Just imagine...

On the other solutions, the HIGHNESS SHEPHERDS may try to stage fights and occupy other's lands and resources to feed themselves extravagantly and a small portion for the remaining sheeps. Act on as if grasshopers, they may attack any weakly guarded rich land, take away all the valuable resources, leaving only devastation and desperation or even extinction to wherever they may have touched down!

In the good times and tough times, they will inflict the suffering every where, esp. in the bad times, such agonies will be created more often, with higher intensity and even more obvious! There's no solution unless the wickedly look-alike grasshoppers (or vultures?) ON THE TOPMOST LEVELS are eradicated!

Wars are not only useful for filling up the fat accounts of MIC with the extra budgets, are not only for occupying and taking over the useful resources, they are also serving the purposes of the population culling, both own population (in smaller portion, the expendable uniforms) and in much bigger portion, the targeted powerless victims.

I just see it over and over, time and again, their nakedly bloody destructions every where!

Sun, 11/27/2011 - 12:24 | 1917547 Jena
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Particularly a draft with a lottery system, so that no one of any class is exempt.  The draft is what fueled the great influx into colleges in the late 60's and early 70's to get student deferrals and it kept kids in school:  A lousy GPA meant you were once again eligible.  

Not that I want to go back to a draft but how much awareness of the wars is there these days among the people out there?  How many do you think are aware of the 800 bases around the world?  If more Americans knew the cost would they think our foreign policy is wrong?  I sure hope so.  It has to be strong enough concern so that war is wrong when Obama is the president as when Bush is.

Sun, 11/27/2011 - 12:43 | 1917632 WestVillageIdiot
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I have brought this up with friends and family lately.  The military has done an incredible PR job.  Just try to question the military and see how many people jump on you.  Watch any sporting event and you will be sickened by the pro-military stance.  "Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel."  That might be true but that won't stop Madison Avenue from pushing it every chance they get. 

Sun, 11/27/2011 - 13:03 | 1917693 Haole
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Jeff Berwick has actually predicted that current student debt will be paid by obligatory, essentially forced, induction into the military by debt-ridden "graduates" at some point in the future.

Sun, 11/27/2011 - 13:54 | 1917893 wisefool
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"Service means citizenship." But honestly Colin powell was on the talk shows today saying that the military has no problem, 100% recruitment and is actually trying to reduce force size.

military of the future.

  • (+10 years) Forward drone bases. Humans protect bases.
  • (+30 years)  bases no longer nessecary. Drone cariers. Longer range and recovery systems. humans on board maintain drones.
  • (+50 years) naval drone carriers no longer nessecary. Total Air superiority (extreme range, drone inflight refueling, 100% expendability)
  • (+55 years) Judgement day. John Connors.


Sun, 11/27/2011 - 14:10 | 1917963 g speed
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You forgot outer space drones and moon drones and orbiter drones and mars drones and --oh well maybe it will mean more jobs?

Sun, 11/27/2011 - 14:51 | 1918145 SamAdams1234
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The USA must breed Meat-muppets for export.

End Game: Iran.

Sun, 11/27/2011 - 13:03 | 1917699 john39
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its not really the military putting out the PR lies...  the entire NWO military industrial ponzi complex.   this world is massive empire, with the U.S. playing the role of muscle...  and somehow the sheople believe that the U.S. stands for freedom and justice...    war is peace.

Sun, 11/27/2011 - 13:55 | 1917802 Sunshine n Lollipops
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One of the most sickening--and blatant--examples of the sports/military nexus is a fairly new stunt being performed at televised pro golf events. A hole is selected based on its high visibility (usually #16 or 17). Old Glory is attached to the flagstick, instead of the normal flag. Two military personnel stand, at attention, to the side of the green and act as caretakers of the flagstick while the golfers putt. Upon finishing the hole, the golfers invariably walk over and shake the soldiers' hands and briefly speak to them, the impression being that 'thanks for all you do' is the message. Whether the golfers are instructed by the PGA tour to do this is hard to say, but they are in a position where the only option is to play along. A refusal to take part in the charade would be seen as 'unpatriotic' and no doubt be more trouble than it's worth for these athletes, who must surely know which side their bread is buttered on.

As awareness and anger about the MIC grows in America, the response from TPTB is, of course, to roll out as much countering propaganda as possible, but shit like this is really pathetically desperate.

Sun, 11/27/2011 - 14:14 | 1917987 g speed
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"Starship Troopers"

Sun, 11/27/2011 - 19:31 | 1919081 Schmoo
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The book, not the movie

Mon, 11/28/2011 - 10:59 | 1920832 mccoyspace
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sorry, the movie is awesome. Paul Verhoven is a genius.

Sun, 11/27/2011 - 15:32 | 1918296 AgShaman
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Reminds me of all the "suck asses" playing Pro Football and baseball....hammering us with the "We Support the Troops" propaganda.....ummm, ummmm....."cuz if it weren't for all dem guys over here wouldn't have our freedom"

Blatant brainwashing of their mindless sycophantic fan base....with the help of their Media Overlords of course.

Time for people to start accusing our military service members of "treason"....they are breaking their oaths they were made to swear to upon their entrance into the Armed Forces.

Sun, 11/27/2011 - 16:18 | 1918459 Sunshine n Lollipops
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And don't forget the mandatory singing of the national anthem before every-single-goddam-game-without-exception, so we can all stand up, hands over hearts, and be good little brainwashed sheep. This jingoistic tradition began during WWI, at the World Series, when patriotism was apparently running at a fever pitch. Like a lotta stupid shit, instead of sensibly fading away after a while, it now permeates our culture, superbly subtle propaganda tool that it is. This might be the dumbest country on Earth. Everyone's in a constant state of derp . . .derp . . . derp.

Sun, 11/27/2011 - 17:43 | 1918738 AgShaman
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This is true.

The intermissions at sporting events (Half-time, 7th inning stretch. etc.) are used to 'program' people further with their war-mongering brainwashing....with more "patriotic" drivel....garnished with troops in their fancy duds sporting their "pledge pins". Like cattle following each other mindlessly to the slaughterhouse....the zombies in the colosseum "lap it up" like kittens sucklin' the milk bowl. It's too disgusting to even watch.

These people don't have a clue what patriotism is all about. If they did....the "Patriot Act" would have failed by a huge margin.

Sun, 11/27/2011 - 12:30 | 1917558 FeralSerf
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"It is no surprise that beginning in 1980 when government spending began to accelerate much more rapidly than government revenues, the government decided to “tweak” how it measured inflation."


Who was president then?  Yep, the Great Communicator.  He should be known as The Great Snake Oil Salesman.   I don't think he wasn't sincere, but I do believe his script writhers and handlers weren't.  He was a professional actor and soap salesman, of course.  He was just doing what he was trained to do.

That was also when the All Volunteer Army came into being.  Now many young people need wars so they'll have a job in the military.  They'd better not be seen or heard protesting the military adventures for Wall St. either.  This was the tipping point of American democracy.  In WW2, it was necessary to actually convince the proles that the war was necessary.  That is no longer the case.

"If we understand the mechanism and motives of the group mind, it is now possible to control and regiment the masses according to our will without them knowing it." -- Edward Bernays

Sun, 11/27/2011 - 12:57 | 1917679 boiltherich
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Good for you, I am always glad to see another poster here stand up to the wingnuts.  Poking the corpse of Raygun is sure to get you an assload of hurt from the red arrow crowd but the truth is the truth. 

Sun, 11/27/2011 - 14:44 | 1918110 Neo
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If you believe that Reagan, or any other modern (as defined by the end of WWII) president oversaw the "tipping point of American Democracy", your stuck in the R vs D meme.

Our Representative Republic model of governance was meant restrain man's innate desire rule other men, alas it has failed, as it was always going to and will again.

Stop looking for someone to blame. This script was written LONG before any one of us ZH readers were born.

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