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Submitted by Rex van Schalkwyk of Casey Research

Compassion – Killer Of Society?

In politics, it is the idea that counts. So also in philosophy, pop music, pedantry and philanthropy. The idea is everything. And between the idea and the reality, there lies that vast uncharted terrain of promises unfulfilled, of lies and deceit and of naked hypocrisy, all of which account for the failure of the public discourse and of public life. In short, this self-inflicted deception accounts for the failure of society.

Bertrand Russell, who is said by some to have been the greatest philosopher of the 20th century, and a notable socialist, proposed that in the one-world society he envisaged, the supply of food should be used as a lever to ensure social compliance. This is what he wrote on the need to prevent the increase of the world's population: "If this is to be done otherwise than by wars, pestilence and famines, it will demand a powerful international authority. This authority should deal out the world's food to the various nations in proportion to their population at the time of the establishment of the authority. If any nation should subsequently increase its population, it should not on that account receive more food…"

In this way, the philosopher would have contrived a one-world totalitarian dictatorship in a perpetual state of starvation. Russell did not even consider where the world's food, without which people were to be starved into submission, would realistically be produced. The most extraordinary thing of all is that he could suggest such an idea in pursuit of his ideal of the utopian life. Were it not for the fact that his work, The Impact of Science on Society, is no laughing matter, it might have been read as a malicious satire.

There is a conundrum here: why is it that so many of those who enthusiastically embrace a benign cause conduct themselves with such malevolent intent? The answer in Russell's case and many others besides is that the real object of their concern is not the welfare of the individual, or of the collective, or the world, as the case may be. The real preoccupation is the idea, and close by the idea is the individual who will see self-interest as synonymous with the public good.

And so it is easy for Warren Buffett, Charlie Munger, George Soros, and others who have made their billions to adopt neo-socialist causes and to plead the morality of higher taxation because, having made their pile, they can with impunity identify with the perceived interests of the disadvantaged. They can adopt the mantle of compassion because there is no real cost involved.

The worst crimes in human history were committed in the name of the communist ideology, whose central premise was the brotherhood of men. Everyone was a comrade, except when they were not, which was practically all the time. Never included in the common definition were the rulers, although they were routinely referred to by the same fraternal denomination.

George Bernard Shaw actually visited Russia in the company of a clutch of like-minded intellectuals after the commencement of Stalin's infamous purges. When he returned to the safety of London, he proclaimed to have been well-pleased by the progressive nature of Russian society.

How did this man of letters come to a conclusion so perverse? The answer is that he traded his integrity in exchange for the acknowledgement of the intellectual establishment of the time. It was believed then, particularly among the intellectual classes of Oxford and Cambridge, that communism was the way of the future. In Major Barbara, Shaw had excoriated the wealth derived from machines of death and destruction. What better trade for a playwright of his inclinations than to feign ignorance of the depravity of Stalin's Russia. In this way he would find favor with the masters of the intellectual universe.

In a letter written to The Manchester Guardian on March 2, 1933, Shaw and 20 other fellow travelers made this observation: "We desire to record that we saw nowhere evidence of such economic slavery, privation, unemployment and cynical despair of betterment as are accepted as inevitable and ignored by the [British] press… Everywhere we saw the hopeful and enthusiastic working-class, self-respecting and free up to the limits imposed on them by nature and a terrible inheritance from tyranny…"

If Shaw were to be believed, he was well aware of the tyranny of the tsar but blissfully ignorant of the savagery of Joseph Stalin, of the ubiquitous secret police, the extermination of the kulaks and the mass deportation and starvation of vast swaths of the Russian population. On his visit, he did not even notice the ever-present apparatus of Stalin's propaganda machine.

Joseph Schumpeter, who was both a sociologist and an economist, had the measure of human nature. In every democracy, votes are exchanged for favors. As the democracy matures and as the prize of political office becomes ever more seductive, the promises become ever more extravagant. By this process the democratic bribe must, according to Schumpeter, result in government that becomes increasingly socialist. If practical proof of Schumpeter's thesis is required, it is to be found in the inexorable rise of socialism in Europe, Canada, Australia and in the United States.

Add to this the requirement of the bankers and of the lesser financial institutions to secure political advantage, and it becomes easy to follow the money. This also explains the paradox of capital making common cause with socialism. If there is hypocrisy in those who choose to ignore the contradictions of their actions, this hypocrisy is multiplied in those who regard such conduct as a promotion of the public good.

When, as Treasury Secretary, Hank Paulson went down on his knees in his abject supplication before Nancy Pelosi, the high priestess of Congress, was it for the survival of the economy or his share-option scheme that he most fervently prayed? Whose interests was he guarding when he provided his banker friends and colleagues with insider information about the imminent collapse of Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae – a possibility that only weeks before he had publicly and emphatically dismissed?

The "liberated" South Africa is governed by the African National Congress (ANC), which comprises an assortment of socialists, communists, trades unionists and a sprinkling of pragmatists. The one thing that this unruly crowd has in common is its conspicuous consumption. In the process, billions of rand are misspent, unaccounted for or simply stolen. The chief in the office of former president Thabo Mbeki, Smuts Ngonyama, once proclaimed that he had not engaged in the liberation struggle to be poor. Candor of this kind is, however, rare; far more likely, a critic of government corruption will be met with the accusation of racialism.

The poor and the dispossessed are routinely exploited for the social and political ambitions of their rulers. Winnie Mandela, the former wife of the idealized former president, was convicted of the common-law crimes of kidnapping and assault. Were it not for an opportunistic appeal-court judgment, she might have spent many years in jail. Although she no longer goes by the moniker "Mother of the Nation," she still cuts a prominent and elegant figure on the many occasions she appears in public. Her kidnap victim was found dead, but her compassion is always on display: she never misses a photo shoot opportunity in the immediate presence of misery.

If the politicians and intellectuals are masters at the art of hypocrisy, Hollywood actors and pop stars have a sublime skill in the promotion of humbug. One such practitioner is Paul David Hewson, also known simply as Bono, the lead singer and lyricist of the accomplished Irish rock group U2.

Bono has turned his talents and his genius for publicity to the international populist causes of the day. He has organized many benefit concerts, eagerly supported by the "me-too brigade" who make up much of the entertainment industry. The most woebegone victims invariably attract the greatest artistic support, which is always provided for free.

For his efforts, Bono has consorted with presidents and kings and accumulated an assortment of titles and awards. Formally granted an honorary knighthood in March 2007 and thrice nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize, the former Time Person of the Year has been described by Paul Theroux as a "mythomaniac"; a person who wishes "…to convince the world of (his) worth." The sociologist and political commentator Muhammad Idrees Ahmad has condemned Bono's conduct as "…a grand orgy of narcissistic philanthropy." So we have it on good authority: narcissism and philanthropy can coexist.

If the hypocrisy of the pop stars is nauseating, the grandiloquent but meaningless oratory of the aspirant political "leaders," of which much will be seen and heard in the coming months, is almost certain to produce results, the very opposite of what is pledged.

Greece, Spain, Portugal, Italy and others besides have fallen into the trap of bribing their electorates with promises that become ever more unsustainable. In each of these states, expectations have been created that cannot be met and that cannot now be undone. This is surely a recipe for social unrest.

These will not be the only countries to succumb to failure. The national debt, the unaffordable long-term cost of social security, health care and a myriad other entitlements and the mounting evidence of the insolvent state point to the same outcome for the UK and the US. Failure is ensured; the more pressing question is, what happens next?

 

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Thu, 06/14/2012 - 19:03 | 2527507 Bill D. Cat
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Well .... this bad news . Obviously the markets go up .

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 19:36 | 2527583 Silver Bug
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The system becomes more and more unstable everyday. The tape holding it together is not going to work much longer. Hold tight your gold and silver.

 

Buy Silver, Protect yourself.

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 20:06 | 2527664 Matt
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Since he mentioned Manchester, anybody keeping an eye on the Manchester United IPO? supposed to be in the USA now. Morgan Stanley got replaced by Jeffries, after the whole FB fiasco.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/06/14/newstory-idUSL1E8HE2C820120614

Fri, 06/15/2012 - 08:13 | 2528734 ndotken
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If Bono wanted to give money anonymously to his supported causes, there is nothing to prevent him from doing so.  The donation of his time is nothing more than a ingenious marketing scheme, used to deceive the masses into forking over their hard earned dollars or other currency.  Just another example of the elite liars, crooks and theives taking advantage of the muppets.

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 22:03 | 2528012 deflator
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...the tape, or adhesive as it were that is holding this system together is confidence, the only thing that makes a fiat currency "money" is confidence. Once that confidence goes away it doesn't come back over night. We will wake up some morning and everything will be shut down for awhile until we figure out what money is "again".

Fri, 06/15/2012 - 07:44 | 2528680 saturn
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compassion can work if you hold population growth on a leash.

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 19:11 | 2527518 Goldtoothchimp09
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my guess would be an eventual revaluation of currencies...hey, we promised you a $50k/year pension...here it is... too bad $50k today(future) is worth $12k in 2011 dollars

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 19:42 | 2527600 WageSlave
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Goldtoothchimp09, but but that's not fair.

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 20:44 | 2527771 zaphod
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This is the way it always always happens. The nominal is honored, the real is devalued. Every single time.

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 21:45 | 2527956 dolce vita
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1.take away your job

2.take away your pension

3.take away your house

4.take away you health care

5.take away your vote

6.take away your food

7.take away your gold

8.take away your guns

 TPTB are sweatin' numbers 6, 7 & 8...these will be where rubber mets road.....

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 22:20 | 2528057 duo
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We could have had a decent debt-default holiday in 2008 with only a 1/3x devaluation of the dollar.  Instead, more debt was created and now we're at 1/10x, ergo, we need to expand M0 by 10x to get out of this.

Not quite wheelbarrow time, but close.

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 19:20 | 2527524 ugmug
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Politicians wonder why the general public never retains a very high regard for them. But it is easy to understand for the public yearns for an administrator who can recognize the difference between policy and apologizing.

 

Increasingly politicians are using policy as a way to extend an apology to an aggrieved special interest group (a.k.a. - looters) to garner their vote. The trick nowadays in getting politicians to open up the government's money vault is to be a highly organized 'victim' demanding a lucrative 'monetary apology'.

 

As the media behaves more like adults playing with dolls, spewing out all sorts of juvenile political accusations to satisfy their fetish like attention cravings, the 'Barbie Doll' media perpetuates the victimization mentality of society whose only remedy then becomes a government policy that guarantees a never ending 'monetary' payout from the taxpayer (a.k.a. - bailouts).

...end of lecture 

 

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 19:26 | 2527557 Zero Govt
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and nobody plays the 'victim card' better than a State funded 'Charity' rammed with Marxists and other social scum

Britain is a shithole of taxpayer funded propaganda Charities producing the next 'research piece' to justify, yes you guessed it, more Govt intervention and the growth of the parasite State

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 19:56 | 2527630 ugmug
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I will add that liberals and Marxists love to point out their hatred for laissez-faire economics.

But there is also laissez-faire socialism – which is no interference by the taxpaying rubes who have to pay for all the socialism.

 

 

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 19:10 | 2527525 Gully Foyle
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John 11:35 

Jesus wept

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 19:29 | 2527564 SilverTree
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Ten Verses Never Preached On

http://www.churchhopping.com/2006/featured/ten-verses-never-preached-on/

 

Ezekiel 16:17 NIV

You also took the fine jewelry I gave you, the jewelry made of my gold and silver, and you made for yourself male idols and engaged in prostitution with them.

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 19:43 | 2527603 yabyum
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silver tree: Is there a porn sight for this verse??

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 20:48 | 2527774 BlackholeDivestment
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...we are on it, dipshit. Lol. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qd4sjkPBIC4

Fri, 06/15/2012 - 00:04 | 2528291 Unbezahlbar
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 Deuteronomy 23:1 ESV

 

No one whose testicles are crushed or whose male organ is cut off shall enter the assembly of the Lord.

Fri, 06/15/2012 - 08:24 | 2528750 Gazooks
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...it is written, whosoever shall mocketh the presumable word of the Lord on the interwebs so shall he too reapeth the wrath visited on Costanza.

Yea, though he may reach for his genitals expecting size of a donkey, the cold water of the Lord will descend upon them smite and shrink them to that of a wretched flea. And his wife, his brother's wife, women of the village and verily even the lowliest of prostitutes shall mock his humiliation of vanished manhood, denying him even a towel as the angels of the heavenly host point and hysterically rain a torrent of tears.

Then shall ye know the worth of gold and silver for purposes of reconstructive surgery, and the Lord will have had yet another good laugh.

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 19:11 | 2527528 sessinpo
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Savage - liberalism is a mental disorder

Me - socialism is a cultural disease.

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 19:18 | 2527544 SilverTree
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SilverTree - War is on the horizon.

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 19:36 | 2527582 xtop23
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^ that

... and it's not going to be a teeny kinetic action. 

 

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 22:28 | 2528084 Miffed Microbio...
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Agree too, just praying it's only conventional. Nukes would be unfathomable.

Miffed:-)

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 22:40 | 2528096 americanspirit
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I want nuclear. Everywhere. Totally. There isn't a single human being worth the breath they draw.

Fuck compassion. Clear the planet.

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 23:37 | 2528224 Ms. Erable
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You first, asshat.

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 19:21 | 2527552 juangrande
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You tell me it's the institutions..
Well, ya know,
You better free your mind instead!

Compassion works if it is unconditional....
Compassion works when you realize that your compassion benefits you...
It matters not how it has effected others...
But if conditional, it is not compassion....

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 19:31 | 2527571 InconvenientCou...
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me: conservatism has been on the wrong side of every inflection point in human history since fire was harnessed.

The conservative to me: wimp, pussy, moron, imbecile, retard, socialist, communist, nazi, collectivist, cry baby...... You impressed yet?

me: Thanks for the comedy, but the joke's on you and time will deliver the punchline. It always does.

 

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 22:19 | 2528051 Ident 7777 economy
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Spewing crap; save it for a crowd that respects crap ... 'k?

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 20:27 | 2527712 Ben Dover
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I understand what you're saying, but it is false to assume that the entitlement philosophy is found only in the lower or leftist classes.

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 22:34 | 2528093 crawldaddy
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so you put out your own fires, you fight your own crime, you clean the city street youself, you fight your own wars, you keep the electricity running, you fix the roads yourself? YOu have no insurnace?

 

You are an idiot, you dont even understand the definiton of socialism.

Fri, 06/15/2012 - 00:17 | 2528318 Future Jim
Thu, 06/14/2012 - 19:15 | 2527539 CABill
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My siblings usually had a fallback option if they didn't make an effort to succeed.  Therefore they never succeeded.  

 

My neighbors were on welfare, pregnant too young to finish high school.  They taught their kids how to apply for welfare and increase payments by having more kids.  Their many kids became my neighbors.

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 19:22 | 2527553 SilverTree
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How many generations will it take to "right the ship"?

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 19:31 | 2527570 juangrande
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When exactly was the ship right?
Back when, before entitlements, a work ethic was essential to survival ala "a gun to the head". Had there been another option, it would have been taken by just as many people, proportionately.
Collectively, we got a fucked up mentality, that like our institutions, is unsustainable...

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 19:16 | 2527542 CommunityStandard
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I think the point of this article is that entitlements are bad for society, but the author was both all over the place and nowhere at all, so I really can't be sure.

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 19:25 | 2527556 SilverTree
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Entitlements are bad m'Kay?

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWkiWtqgOWc

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 19:33 | 2527576 CommunityStandard
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+1

Fri, 06/15/2012 - 08:11 | 2528684 Sean7k
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Then we read a different article. This one calls to task the leaders that society looks up to and values for exhorting ideas that cripple and disease community. Even if their ideas are entirely messed up.

Unfortunately, the author commits the same one by not providing the more important follow up to "what happens next". He is pontificationg on the poverty of the status quo by COMPLAINING about it.

What comes next is fairly simple: either we win or they do. Either we accept total wage slavery and a return to medievel serfdom or we bring down the fascism that infects all governments and try liberty with responsibility. Either we learn how to do the heavy lifting or we trade our labors for whatever the Elites tell us has value and how much we can have.

Historically, the people have taken what they have been given. They have worked hard (or not, plenty of slackers in all time frames) and received what they have been given by their Lords.

Therefore, if we want a different outcome, we need to create it ourselves, as communities or clans or tribes. We need to find like minded lovers of liberty and responsibility (or not or anything in between) and create islands that exemplify our best efforts and dreams.

The Elites will always act as parasites, how long will you let them suck your blood and drain you of your life force and opportunity?

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 19:22 | 2527555 Cognitive Dissonance
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Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

The big lie we tell ourselves is that only the powers that be are corrupt and/or corruptible. In our own little ways and measures we are all corrupt and corruptible.

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 19:56 | 2527634 old naughty
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Cog Dis,

"...In our own little ways and measures we are all corrupt and corruptible."

Is it UNpossible that the Power that be, while corrupt and corruptible, decided that they would right the ship for all of us?

Just wondering.

 

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 20:35 | 2527741 juangrande
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I think what he means is you are, in a subtle way, responsible for TPTB's existence.

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 22:26 | 2528080 Goldtoothchimp09
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You can't cheat an honest man ...

Fri, 06/15/2012 - 07:49 | 2528689 Sean7k
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An unfortunate piece of negativity and failure. CD, you are better than this.

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 19:26 | 2527559 slewie the pi-rat
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i knew bono was versatile but this is ridiculous!

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 19:38 | 2527587 knukles
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Dontcha just love the irony of that Yeves St Laurent or whoeverthefuckitis's ad with him and his wifeie supposedly standing in the middle of the Great African Veldt with their designer bags, designer watches, a small private plane.... just so ever unthinking of the subliminal implications of the expansive carbon footprint....
OK for them, bad for the rest.
Do as I say.
Etc.

(sigh)

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 20:09 | 2527671 slewie the pi-rat
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bono is unbelievable

not only do the nannies accept him, they approve of him

just un-fuking-believable

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 20:32 | 2527727 juangrande
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Knukles, you mean like they felt "entitled"?

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 19:30 | 2527563 Dr. Sandi
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OK, so where's the part of the story about COMPASSION?

Plenty of crap about opportunism here.

Is it the editor who wrote the headline or the author who doesn't know what COMPASSION means?

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=compassion+define

I don't see "free ride" or "exploitation" mentioned in these various definiations of COMPASSION.

 

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 19:39 | 2527591 lightning
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I am guessing that he is referring to the type of compassion often spoken about in liberal circles to justify their policies.  Agree that he could have been clearer.

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 19:30 | 2527569 robertocarlos
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"There's no winter so cold, as the one without compassion". Todd R

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 19:38 | 2527585 Zero Govt
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person to person compassion is the best and sometimes works

State compassion is a joke and almost always mis-directed

there's nothing more pitiful than watching the BBC air yet another report from Afghanistan showing the Home Offices attempts to administer schooling and nursing (while invading their nation, blowing up poppy fields, women and kids)

winning hearts and minds ..aha!

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 19:43 | 2527606 alien-IQ
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The state is more often a barrier to compassion than a provider of it.

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 20:33 | 2527730 juangrande
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Rundgren?

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 19:32 | 2527574 Zero Govt
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Very interesting read Rex

my only micro-gripe is you could have picked out worse hypocrites than Winnie Mandella and Bono

the recent slavishly dribbling utterings of Western journalists on the Rothchild-Rockerfella merger and their benign charity work (which pales into the distance compared the damage they do) would of been top of my hit list for both hypocracy and the medias utter rot 

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 19:37 | 2527586 max2205
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What.....?

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 19:40 | 2527592 knukles
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Exactly....

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 19:40 | 2527594 alien-IQ
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"The worst crimes in human history were committed in the name of the communist ideology"

Nope. That distinction goes to Religion, not communism. And as a footnote to that thought, I'd just like to point out that these grave atrocities were always committed by men who always justified their actions with the statement "I was just doing my job".

As for what lay ahead...I suppose there of lots and lots of men lining up to just do their jobs.

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 20:53 | 2527796 sadmamapatriot
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Wrong.

Fri, 06/15/2012 - 00:15 | 2528294 psychobilly
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According to Matthew White's The Great Big Book of Horrible Things, religion has been responsible for 13 of the 100 worst mass killings in history, resulting in 47 million deaths. Communism has been responsible for 6 mass killings and 67 million deaths.

Congratulations to religion on being not quite as bad as Communism when it comes to responsibility for mass killings, although in fairness to the Commies, they had the much larger populations and industrial warfare of the modern age to work with.  Many of the mass killings attributed to religion took place when the world's population was a lot smaller. 

Fri, 06/15/2012 - 04:08 | 2528555 IBelieveInMagic
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Enlightening! Thx.

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 23:10 | 2528175 Calmyourself
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Totally wrong, learn facts not talking points..

Fri, 06/15/2012 - 06:26 | 2528610 Moe Howard
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But "Communist Ideology" is a Religion.

Fri, 06/15/2012 - 06:30 | 2528614 Ghordius
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agree, religions and ideologies are related, they are both sets of moral rules that have been often hijacked in the name of naked power

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 19:41 | 2527599 Towhog
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We are forward looking to a global collapse of Roman Empire, Mayan, Egyptian proportions. The planet cannot support 7.5 billion people without the production and distribution system we now enjoy. Economically the productive age group, 20-40 year old are unable to support 4 generations of humanity that now inhabit the earth. The whole contraption we call civilization is out of balance. Collapse is inevitable. Timing is the curveball

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 19:44 | 2527609 LetThemEatRand
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Fuck Rand.  The problem is not compassion it is corruption.  It is human nature.  Deal with it.  It doesn't matter how you construct society.  There will be corruption and theft and it will need to be dealt with.  The mental gymnastics and false arguments at the center of this piece -- all to justify pure selfishness -- are transparent to all who wish to look.   

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 20:43 | 2527762 Future Jim
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You have a RIGHT to the fruits of other men's labor.

Wes wou DOooOO.

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 21:47 | 2527960 LetThemEatRand
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5 of the top 10 wealthiest people in the United States have never labored a single day.  They are the sons, daughters and other heirs of Sam Walton, founder of Wal-Mart, destroyer of labor and small businesses.  One of them married one of Sam's sons.  She now could buy most countries.  But keep repeating the mantra of your corporate masters.  Fuck woo do.

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 22:04 | 2528015 Future Jim
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I am only concerned where there has been an initiation of force or fraud.

Perhaps you could cite crony capitalism - that's government.

Perhaps you could cite lawsuits - that's government.

Perhaps you could cite bailouts, ZIRP, QE, the Fed, etc. - that's government.

It would appear you are correct. Government has corrupted the private sector.

 

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 22:10 | 2528033 LetThemEatRand
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Wow.  I am sorry for your ignorance. 

Crony capitalism by definition is the private sector corrupting government.

Lawsuits constitute the one rare right to redress by private citizens against both corporate entities and government.

The Fed is a private banking cartel.  J.P. Morgan came up with the idea and killed several U.S. presidents over it.

 

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 22:25 | 2528075 Ident 7777 economy
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And sadly, we're put in a position each day to be sorry for your ignorance ...

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 23:15 | 2528184 Calmyourself
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LTER just wants to steal and give the money to those she deems righteous enough.  Of course only she can decide for us..

Fri, 06/15/2012 - 02:46 | 2528489 Lednbrass
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No, no, no, she wants to give her fully unionized workforce higher wages and better benefits.

Oh wait...

Fri, 06/15/2012 - 02:47 | 2528490 LetThemEatRand
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Nice Argument, fuckhole.

Fri, 06/15/2012 - 00:07 | 2528159 Future Jim
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You could also cite government dependence in the African American community - that's government.

You could also cite crony unionism - that's government.

There is a common denominator here. It is government. Government has corrupted the private sector - that's us.

You may really like government today, but It's never too late to become the person you want to be.

Fri, 06/15/2012 - 02:49 | 2528493 LetThemEatRand
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I get it.  Fuck you.  Tool.

 

Fri, 06/15/2012 - 06:29 | 2528613 Moe Howard
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You seem to live a life full of bile and hate because somebody else got to inherit a bunch of money and you did not.

I think maybe you need to grow up [mature] a little bit in your thinking. You are poisoning your own life.

If I spent all day every day like you worried about who got a better deal at random out of life, I think suicide would be an option.

Move on for your own health.

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 23:11 | 2528176 Centurion9.41
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"The problem is not compassion it is corruption.  It is human nature."

True, save that false compassion is also corruption.

The human nature you speak of was at one time commonly known in Western society as Original Sin.

Fri, 06/15/2012 - 03:18 | 2528499 LetThemEatRand
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Fuck.

Yes.   Can you cite a selfless act?

Fri, 06/15/2012 - 03:34 | 2528531 Likstane
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A voluntary crucifixion, being payment for disobedience, by a perfect Man, for His select friends.  See Bible

Sat, 06/16/2012 - 04:12 | 2531581 Dr. Sandi
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Yeah, first time ever in all of human history. It's all so selfless and unheard of.

 

Fri, 06/15/2012 - 02:28 | 2528479 Rogue Trooper
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Comrade, you do remind me of the Tom Parsons character.

WAR IS PEACE!

FREEDOM IS SLAVERY!

IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH!

DOWN WITH BIG BROTHER, DOWN WITH BIG BROTHER, DOWN WITH BIG BROTHER, DOWN WITH BIG BROTHER.......REPEAT to INFINITY!

There that should get the NSA/FBI/CIA/GCHQ/DHLS "bots' attention......

See you in Room 101... you will of course accept this, with grace and steadfast certainty, unlike me.

 

Fri, 06/15/2012 - 02:54 | 2528501 LetThemEatRand
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In Room 101 they can help you create a cogent message.  Good luck.

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 19:46 | 2527613 zerotohero
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But Bono owns Facebook shares - so he's golden right - huh nudge nudge wink wink.

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 19:49 | 2527617 q99x2
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Ideas are a dime a dozen. Difficult to put much into them especially when the subject of the idea is not able to be proved scientifically. So dream on but do not value your dreams more than others.

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 19:50 | 2527620 Everybodys All ...
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then what happens ... war.

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 20:14 | 2527684 denny69
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Sorry, sonny, the worst crimes in the world were committed by capitalist, fascist, neo-fascist and neo-capitalist governments. The communist regimes weren't around long enough to do the damage of the capitalist, mercantile and feudalist societies which preceded the commies, not that the commies are guilt free by any means. Proof? You might ask the 100 million or so native people in the Western Hemisphere, the people of pretty much any Asian nation, South America, Africa, the Mideast, just name a place and there will be mountains of dead done in by those who wanted to make a profit. The Afghanis are finding that out right now. The Vietnamese (3 million just from the Americans), the Central Americans, the Jews, Gypsies, Russians, Poles etc have all found out and when the Jews were being led off to the camps there wasn't a peep from the 'democracies' and I don't even want to talk about our slaves or Native Americans. You want to go slinging history around, you better have your shit straight because as far as I can see, the commies are gone and people are still dying in great numbers. Iran's next and what's their crime? They just said, "NO!" And guess what, it ain't the commies destroying our nation or Europe, it's assholes who call themselves capitalists and all they really are are greedy murderers.

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 20:56 | 2527805 sadmamapatriot
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Wrong again. BTW, the "commies are gone" line provided extra laughs.

Fri, 06/15/2012 - 01:09 | 2528393 denny69
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Yeah, you're right. I was wrong. It was Stalin, the current Chinese leadership and Mao Zedong who whispered into the ears of the Wall Street/Hamptons crowd entrancing them to devastate our housing markets and real estate, loot our pensions and connive with the Fed and Paulson to bequeath themselves trillions of our dollars. You win! Don't shoot! America is great!

Fri, 06/15/2012 - 06:31 | 2528617 Moe Howard
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Bad economy = 10s of millions dead in your mind. You are a hoot!

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 22:22 | 2528066 Ident 7777 economy
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denny69 :

" Sorry, sonny, the worst crimes in the world were committed by capitalist, fascist, neo-fascist and neo-capitalist governments. "

 

Where does this ignorance-inspired crap come from?

 

 

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 22:51 | 2528134 denny69
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Not from any of your sources obviously and if you have the time, please tell me what form of government do we have now. Don't speak too loudly. I hear a drone overhead.

Fri, 06/15/2012 - 02:51 | 2528496 Lednbrass
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It comes from being a victim, of always feeeling that someone else is not only repsonsible for everything wrong in your life but also responsible for making everything right in your life.

Of course this is precisely the mentality that has enabled every power crazed, heavily centralized, and murderous government in history but this is an inconvenient detail to such enlightened ones.

Fri, 06/15/2012 - 02:27 | 2528477 malek
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Obvious troll, as testified by Stalin and Mao.

Fri, 06/15/2012 - 10:48 | 2529291 denny69
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Yeah, you're right again. I am an obvious troll. So, here's some well wishes for you. Enjoy your quickly arriving new life. What was said about The Constitution? I'm having difficulty remembering it.

 

Leaked Documents Reveal Obama Regime Intends to Give Radical New Powers to Multinational Corporations

Fri, 06/15/2012 - 19:51 | 2531056 denny69
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Thu, 06/14/2012 - 20:16 | 2527686 blindman
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if compassion kills society then
what is it that promotes society?
if that can be rightly stated then
you might have a clue as to the nature
and value of the particular society
being profiled.

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 21:25 | 2527894 Matt
Thu, 06/14/2012 - 22:07 | 2528026 Future Jim
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Thinking for oneself - good for society.

Conformism - bad for society.

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 20:30 | 2527719 mjk0259
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Well,   when I was growing up in UK, getting enough food was a major topic and the basis of some of the most popular comic strips. Not even remotely on the horizon now.

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 20:38 | 2527752 Future Jim
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What?! No more free stuff?!

But I have a RIGHT to the fruits of other men's labor.

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 20:43 | 2527769 alien-IQ
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I suppose you built every road you drive on with your own two precious little hands?

Or are you enjoying the fruit of another mans labor?

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 21:24 | 2527837 Future Jim
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CORRECT! I have a RIGHT to the fruits of other men's labor.

I don't want to engage in a voluntary exchange of my labor for their labor.

I want the government to take the fruits of their labor and give it to me.

What if someone were free to build a road and charge me money if I chose to use it?! I don't want the government to let anyone else builds roads. That way, I can claim that if they use government roads, the government can take the fruits of their labor and give it to me.

Yeah, I know they are already paying for the use of roads with gasoline taxes, but they are still using the roads created by MY government, so I can tell myself that they owe ALL of their wealth and success to others.

I'm glad to see you're on the same page because when we're all on the same page, everyone benefits.

BTW, check out this progressive party platform. You'll LOVE it.

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 22:30 | 2528087 crawldaddy
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you're an idiot

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 23:08 | 2528170 Future Jim
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You're right. I am confronted 24/7 in the MSM with peer pressure telling me that you are right, and yet, somehow I am too stupid to conform like you have. When am I going to learn that when we all conform, we all benefit.

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 23:16 | 2528186 Calmyourself
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AIQ your childish, pedantic and tiresome..

Fri, 06/15/2012 - 06:30 | 2528615 memyselfiu
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for a guy named future jim your ideas are sure remnants of the dustbins of history that were thankfully dismissed and discarded long ago.

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 20:50 | 2527786 nmewn
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"If this is to be done otherwise than by wars, pestilence and famines, it will demand a powerful international authority. This authority should deal out the world's food to the various nations in proportion to their population at the time of the establishment of the authority. If any nation should subsequently increase its population, it should not on that account receive more food…"

Very compassionate...lol...almost...how should I say, eugenic.

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 21:20 | 2527855 Future Jim
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Progressives commit atrocities to the full extent their power allows. Given enough power and time, Progressivism leads to genocide.

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 22:02 | 2528008 nmewn
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They are some sick twisted fucks, no doubt.

Look at their positions...stay out of my bedroom, but give me "free" birth control Mr.Nanny State...the 200k crowd is is "rich" (according to them) so tax the crap out of them and gimme a job at Solyndra Mr.Nanny State...the government is on the edge of a fiscal cliff, so print more Mr.Nanny State so no one will suffer the consequences of your counterfeiting...the progressive state always knows best...always...lol.

Fri, 06/15/2012 - 00:10 | 2528046 Future Jim
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Or what progressivism did to David Reimer and others like him.

What government dependence has done to the African American community.

How NBC, Obama, and others fabricated a narrative using the Trayvon/Zimmerman incident to incite national racial hatred and violence.

Progressives agree that a baby is as precious as any one of us as soon as it pops out, but 5 seconds earlier when just its head was sticking out, they say it was OK to stab it in the head and kill it (partial birth abortions).

Most progressives even tell me they believe in souls, so what kind of twisted person would kill something that must have a soul. It's not like they have any way of knowing that soul enters after the umbilical cord is cut - and they know that they cannot know. Sick.

Fri, 06/15/2012 - 06:31 | 2528618 memyselfiu
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hey you guys, go to a private room of you want to jerk each other off...

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 23:48 | 2528249 toomanyfakecons...
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Don't forget the progressives/democrats resounding support of Planned Parenthood and their recent near-unanimous "no" vote of outlawing sex-choice based aboritions (meaning killing girls in favor of boys). The demons-from-hell progessives are what they are, but the fake conservatives are the same, draped in sheeps clothing.

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 23:52 | 2528262 Future Jim
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neocons are just another form of progressivism

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 23:19 | 2528189 Calmyourself
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Him and Sanger were quite well aquainted tyrannical eugenicists.. 

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 21:00 | 2527820 Normalcy Bias
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"But remember the richest people in the planet become socialists."..."Socialism is where you build a moat around the castle." - Hugh Hendry

http://www.zerohedge.com/article/hugh-hendry-i-want-bring-george-soros-down

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 21:03 | 2527831 UnderDeGun
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This article was very well thought out and very well written.

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 21:09 | 2527835 cdskiller
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"The worst crimes in human history were committed in the name of the communist ideology"

blah, blah, blah. Worst in what way? In their depravity? Worse than Hitler and Pol Pot? Worse than the crimes committed in the name of God, uncountable millions killed, uncountable millions starved while the church took all the gold, millions in the new world wiped out for that gold, for 2000 years across the globe? This is the most douchebag kind of pseudo-intellectual claptrap I have ever read on this site. Unworthy. Specious spin.

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 21:33 | 2527919 Matt
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1. I'm guessing the poster is determining the heinousness of crimes by number of people affected. I'm not sure if this is correct, or if it is even worth trying to index levels of crimes against humanity.

2. most of the people in the new world died unintentionally from introducing bacteria and viruses that they didnt have resistance to.

3. Most of the gold and silver was for the European kings and queens, not the church. People don't starve to death from lack of gold, they starve from lack of food.

Fri, 06/15/2012 - 02:58 | 2528507 Lednbrass
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In terms of sheer number of dead, yes the Communists are the heavyweight psycho champs of history by a fairly wide margin.

A dubious honor for sure, but they have the high score- for now.

Fri, 06/15/2012 - 03:45 | 2528542 AnAnonymous
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US citizens do not body count their own deeds.

Even better, they do not have others body count for them. For US citizens body count for everyone else. Including past and mysterious slaughters that are supposed to have happened in a distant past.

But even the most shallow data emerging from US citizen deeds show that US citizens are good, real, real, real good.

Fri, 06/15/2012 - 08:54 | 2528820 Ident 7777 economy
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This is an "AnAnonymous" un-sponsored CRAP ALERT.

Reading his/her material will have the effect of turning your brain to mush and rob you of precious life - precious minutes you will never get back!

 

Fri, 06/15/2012 - 03:51 | 2528546 AnAnonymous
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Most of the gold and silver was for the European kings and queens, not the church. People don't starve to death from lack of gold, they starve from lack of food.

__________________

Queens and Kings were often broken. Churches were rich in all terms, land, gold...

Vikings knew this: they spurred a new economical boost by pillaging the churches in Europe, melting the gold and silver, minting currency, and buying goods with it. Increasing the money supply, circulating new amounts of currency.

Henri VIII knew this: he built the ascension of his country by seizing property from the Catholic Church.

Fri, 06/15/2012 - 04:13 | 2528556 TheFourthStooge-ing
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AnAnonymous said:

Queens and Kings were often broken. Churches were rich in all terms, land, gold...

Vikings knew this: they spurred a new economical boost by pillaging the churches in Europe, melting the gold and silver, minting currency, and buying goods with it.

You're getting sloppy. You forgot to say "US citizen vikings".

Henri VIII knew this: he built the ascension of his country by seizing property from the Catholic Church.

You mean "US citizen Henry VIII, the same US citizen king that conquered Easter Island".

Are you posting from the People's Liberation Opium Parlour again?

Fri, 06/15/2012 - 06:24 | 2528609 AnAnonymous
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Neither Vikings in 8~9th century or Henry VIII were US citizens.

This corrected, maybe more on those people who are occupying your country and since when?

Fri, 06/15/2012 - 07:01 | 2528628 TheFourthStooge-ing
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AnAnonymous said:

Neither Vikings in 8~9th century or Henry VIII were US citizens.

Yes, sure, that is what you are saying now. Easy to do since AnAnonymous version of the US of A history has characteristic being like clay of eternal plasticity. On your whimsy the US of A history will changing to meet your propagandical requirings, giving  you changing of midstream horse.

One day you make a magic trip on your floating cloud to 1776,July,4th, and give us voice of authority eyewitness account, which by decree of AnAnonymousism must be accepted as fact without disputation.

Tomorrow your prevailing winds sail you back to the middle age, where you observe Henry VIII conquest of Easter Island and Albert Schweitzer speaking directly to you that it is for the eternal glory of US citizenism.

Next week you floating your cloud back to 1000, AD, and denying all about 1776, telling quite a tale about US citizen Leif Ericson blobbing up the US citizenism to Vinland. Then with convincing bluster remake the world of fabled past of Norsemen land grabbers who stole the land from the Skraelings to found the US of A.

At each AnAnonymousistic changing of US of A history, you then deny the prior iteration. Thus AnAnonymousism follows path of can kicking denialism so as not to encounter crossing path with self indiction.

The mettle, the mettle is the primary factor here.

This corrected, maybe more on those people who are occupying your country and since when?

Ah, ah, this can be simple answer, as it is the crustiest bit. No thinking required just by adherence to AnAnonymousism. All occupiers of all country of planet for all time being of past,present,future is US citizens.

Fri, 06/15/2012 - 12:28 | 2529646 akak
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Stop!  Please!

I laughed so hard here, I crapped my pants --- and I wasn't even on a Chinese roadside!

Fri, 06/15/2012 - 06:37 | 2528620 Moe Howard
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What was Pol Pot?  A free market capitalist? A Libertarian? Hahahah Hitler was all about the individual and individual rights, correct? He would have never supported any kind of collective policy like socialized medicine or doing things for the "folks" as a group would he have? 

Hahahaha. Yep, they were Libertarians. Always spouting off about Liberty and Freedom, just read Mien Kampf. Hahaha.

 

You, blah blah blah, are an idiot.

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 21:55 | 2527981 tony bonn
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many truthful things were spoken but one truth left out is that the banksters have caused a financial crisis to enable the totalitiarian state of russell and to bankrupt the several states as a means of repudiating the social promises made groveling before the electorate....

communism was an invention of the plutocrats and shoved down the throats of russia, germany (although i know many pine of adolph yet), italy, china, ad nauseum....now that the plutocrats have perfected their craft, they have brought it to the usa where many compliant corporatized sycophants paw at the power after which they so lust...

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 22:19 | 2528048 clagr
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I have to say that the 'banksters' were only doing the work of the do-gooders in Congress that wanted the peoples wealth distributed to people who had little wealth of their own. No sane banker would make a 'no doc' 110% loan to someone who was trying to live the American dream by buying and flipping houses. Gresham's Law says that bad money drives good money out of the market. If Fannie and Freddie are saying make the pad loans or you don't get to deal with Fannie and Freddie--you don't survive as a lender if you don't go along. If you get rich doing Congress's work--no one should complain.

Fri, 06/15/2012 - 03:53 | 2528547 AnAnonymous
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'America' is a history of wealth redistribution programs. Dont be a late newcomer though, as the age of abundance is drawing near its end.

Fri, 06/15/2012 - 12:31 | 2529658 akak
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Please tell us again your fairy tale of how your mythical "US Citizenism" somehow infected the inhabitants of Easter Island not only long BEFORE they had any contact with the outside world, but centuries before the USA even became a nation, or was founded!  That one is especially entertaining.

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 22:29 | 2528086 crawldaddy
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Bull + shit.  Compassion didnt kill society, GREED DID

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 22:33 | 2528089 dolph9
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Alot of you people worship Reagan, but he never did anything against the ghetto queens.

In fact, Republicans want them to spawn and spawn forever.  Culture war crumbs to their servile religious followers, and endless corporate profits for the bosses.

Now the ghetto queens own this country, because you must work to feed them and their children, forever.  If you bring this up or complain, you are a racist or a Nazi.

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 23:43 | 2528236 toomanyfakecons...
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I must recommend the Igoe-Pruitt Myth on Netflix. It is a definitive work about 1950s to 1970s welfare and public housing in America that will leave you with no doubts about the Balkanizing social wreckage it has caused.

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 23:00 | 2528155 TBT or not TBT
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Mark Steyn made the same point in America Alone, The End of the World As We Know It.   Basically, that statist compassion does kill a civilisation, with Europe as witness.

That was over five years ago.  With America's choice of Democrat compassion in the '06 election turnover of the legislative to Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi, then the choice of statist anti-american asswipe Obama in 08, Steyn had to revise his thesis and posit that the entire occident is now looking pretty screwed.   We piled in for state driven compassion.   STUPID.

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 23:08 | 2528164 Centurion9.41
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Veritas.

Three fundamental perversions that lie at the heart of said self-delusion:

The idea of rights [the mind of society]

What love really is [the heart of society]

What charity really is [the soul of society]

All popular political errors stem from the perversion of these three, compassion is but another name of this black rose. 

They can collectively be seen at work most clearly and simply in the following: that a government, because it is democratically elected, has the right to take the property of one person and give it to another and speak of it as an act of love done in the spirit of charity.

 

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 23:25 | 2528201 blindman
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if compassion kills society then society
would naturally tend to destroy compassion.
also, if a society without compassion could
be identified and then was observed to be killed,
something other than compassion would be responsible.
we can therefore conclude that there well might be
something other than compassion that is capable
of killing society. what might that be? perhaps
arrogance, delusion and disparity?
or maybe the hypothetical society was
over run by another people who did have compassion
so again, we could blame compassion for the destruction
of that perfect hypothetical society.
.
"it isn't the bullet that kills, it is the hole." anon.

Fri, 06/15/2012 - 00:01 | 2528283 Future Jim
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compassion is just the pretense ...

it's not fascism

because we don't call it that

Fri, 06/15/2012 - 00:31 | 2528339 blindman
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compassion mid-14c., from O.Fr. compassion "sympathy, pity" (12c.), from L.L. compassionem (nom. compassio) "sympathy," noun of state from pp. stem of compati "to feel pity," from com- "together" (see com-) + pati "to suffer" (see passion). Latin compassio is an ecclesiastical loan-translation of Gk. sympatheia (see sympathy). An O.E. loan-translation of compassion was efenðrowung.compassionate (adj.) 1580s, from compassion + -ate (2). Phrase compassionate conservatism in American political language first recorded by 1992, popularized, if not coined, by Marvin Olasky, University of Texas at Austin instructor.
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?allowed_in_frame=0&search=compassion...
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compassion is a feeling. public policy or program
is anything but a feeling. it is a narrative, associated
behaviour/s and distribution of resources. the narrative
may or may not have anything to do with the actual
outcomes and stated objectives but that is usually
too complicated for people to think about and the politicians, etc., know this and resort to sound bites
and promote the distributions that sustain the status
quo and their own maximized resale value.
all this is no reason to drag the human feeling of compassion or love through the shitter. how about
hypocrisy and theft, why not just call it what it is.
let's blame lying and stealing and hold people accountable for the narratives they sell to be elected
and stop blaming the good things in people to mask
the real crimes that are committed and referred to as
product development, market making and positioning.
the drones kill people with compassion? cluster bombs
are triggered by compassion? not really, not society
those victims, just people.

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 23:29 | 2528208 EFNuttin
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In my view, the state has tried to replace all the other institutions of Western Civilization.  The churches and their resistance to birth control (until 1932 for Protestants and Catholics) got completely rolled after World War 2, leading to falling birth rates.  Until the 20th Century, your children were your retirement plan, should you live long enough to be too worn down to work, but not quite dead yet, a.k.a. "retired".  Urbanization and birth control made children inconvenient and the state promised to provide retirement packages.  Personally, given a choice between some dispassionate government drone and one of my children to help me in my golden years, I would prefer one of my own. 

As for the promises of medical care, in the USA we used to call a Buick, "a doctor's car" because it was a nice car, but not as nice as a Cadillac like the movie stars would ride in.  The reason for this was the doctor and other professionals relied on getting paid by patients, not by third party insurers, Medicare, and Medicaid.  Back then, it would be unseemly for the doctor to drive something ostentatious paid for with patient funds.  Now they drive any damned thing they feel like and scarcely anyone makes the connection because we have become so accustomed to the spending of "other people's money". 

Presumably, once the retirement and medical care bubbles burst and the promises ring hollow as the governments show us their empty pockets, we will be back where we began, reliant on our families to care for us in our old age and paying the remaining medical practitioners with gold, chickens, and grain for the medical care we truly need enough to part with our own wealth rather than everyone else's.

Compassion begins at home.  Governments should stick with roadbuilding and warmaking, the things that are too expensive for us to do as individuals.

Fri, 06/15/2012 - 02:33 | 2528482 malek
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You kind of missed the other side: Christian religion leaders had centuries ago decided to prohibit birth control because they realized the tribes having more children gain prevalence in the long run.

Fri, 06/15/2012 - 09:21 | 2528932 EFNuttin
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Western birth rates used to be higher for many reasons: well over ninety percent of the people worked in agriculture and children can start laboring young, the children were much of your medical and retirement plans, the Bible stated "Be fruitful and multiply, Children are like the arrows in a man's quiver, Children sitting at your table are wonderful, like olive plants", children under five had high mortality rates so you likely need to have three if there were still going to be two that made it to adulthood, and lots more imperatives to push back against the plagues, wars, and famines that kept pressuring the human population.
In the nineteenth century, European governments kept encouraging their people to have children as part of the arms race. Prussians were having more children than the French and this could lead to a future mismatch on the battlefield.
Some political observers believe that the birth rate difference between camps of voters will lead to long-term changes in voting patterns. Children often grow up to vote in a similar fashion to their parents, so the more children means more voters like their parents.

Fri, 06/15/2012 - 20:33 | 2531111 malek
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I am getting the impression you are hand-picking facts. When did the church first start to have an offcial stance against any kind of birth control? When western societies were still almost pure agricultural ones?
And if they got "rolled after WW2", why was there a baby boom in the late 50's and 60's even though retirement plans had long been in existence?

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 23:37 | 2528220 loveyajimbo
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I do not think the debt should be grouped with "unaffordable" social security and health care.  If spending was under control, and all foreign aid, war for profit, and the cost of supporting millions of illegals were halted, coupled with a large reduction to our incredible defense expenditures... as well as simple and fair means testing... expansion of Medicare to age 55 and over would be quite easily afforded.  Further, forcing our corrupt corporations to return the manufacturing base back to the US, coupled with major limitations on unions... and the rejection and re-negotiation of all "free" trade deals... then social security would be fine as well.  It is only the corruption of a large majority of our government that prevents these common-sense actions.

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 23:36 | 2528222 Calmyourself
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The state cannot be compassionate at least in terms of charity.  it has no production excess over consumption in order to bestow material compassion.  The State must simply compel through force the rendering of assets to give to another, no the state cannot be compassionate.  It is really that simple.

Fri, 06/15/2012 - 00:00 | 2528284 Unbezahlbar
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"the worst crimes in history....." are committed in the name of any ideology when carried to the extreme.

 

As the philosopher Isaiah Berlin wrote, "How many eggs do you need to break to make the perfect omelette?"

Fri, 06/15/2012 - 00:15 | 2528313 TNTARG
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(Sorry for my English)

It's a very interesting debate that demonstrates once again it isn't about ideologies (to me at least) but about Power and the lack of quality (call it "civilization") humans still have to deal with it. Most of the people that reach some degree of Power (even little pieces of it) tend to abuse in his favor in spite of ohters. Exception made for a few along History, we still are a bounch of barbarians, corrupted and/or cowards unable to realize that common good is the best for every one of us. Unable to appreciate diversity, to learn from different cultures, to realize that a sustainable, free, non violent, better way to live is not only possible but even easier and surely happier.

Think to these bankster, i.e.- What are they going to do with all that money, that gold, those CDS, the domination, all the misery they've managed to create? Do they need that kind of shit to feel satisfied? Are they freudian frustrated subjects? And the large, vast majority of people that feel afraid of everything then allow them to run things "or else..."

I tend to believe this guys (and women as our lovely Hillary) feel INFERIOR so they need to show how big their guns are, how bad they can be, what kind of perversion they are capable to and the kilotons of their nuke to feel SAVE into their Inferno's circle.

There's no difference to me between Caligula, Torquemada, Hitler, Stalin, the Bushes, the Bielderbergs, etcetera. All exponents of our boundaries and limits as Mankind. I'm afraid we're gonna need some time to reach the next evolutionary step, if we don't manage to exterminate ourselves first.

For those Davo's, FED's, BCE's pals I feel sorry and embarassement, same as for the ones capables of torturing, killing, starving people, destroying art of man and nature. 

 

 

Fri, 06/15/2012 - 01:19 | 2528407 Cosimo de Medici
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Zerohedge sure knows where to find them.  All the smartest people in the world write guest spots on the Hedge.  They know EVERYTHING.  They like NOTHING.  They are expert at telling us what is wrong, and damn if EVERYTHING isn’t wrong and NOTHING is right, except them.

Apparently all we really need is to have Casey Research, the redundant Charles Hughes Smith, and people like the humorless Brandon Smith, self-important Mike Krieger and art student-turned PHILOSOPHER James Miller take over the helm and we’d all be on the golden path to eternal prosperity, peace, freedom and LIBERTY.

Collectively what have any of these people done to better the condition of society and the human species, other than complain what is not going according to their wishes?  Write investment newsletters?  Write blogs?  Go snowboarding in Colorado?

Every one of them sounds like he wants to be a Chief, and never an Indian.  Not a one of them has any demonstrable record of achievement that might make others in a democracy believe them to be qualified for anything.  Perhaps post some Great Reset they wish to be thought their generation's Thomas Paine?

Here’s a guess:  in the next few weeks Brandon Smith will attend some meeting somewhere, probably in Montana, that will disgust him---primarily because it is not him on the stage chairing the meeting---and set him off on a thousand word diatribe against whatever it is he never achieved.  Mike Krieger will find yet another quote from Thomas Jefferson or Santayana, the aim of which apparently is to get the rest of us to do something to make everything Mike’s way so that he can enjoy his snowboarding in LIBERTY.  Charles Hughes Smith will pen something where the only change from his last missive, and every one that came before that, is word order, and it will be insufferably whiny.  James Miller will take a fart in a hurricane and turn it into a polemic for some sort of elite eugenics, oblivious to the obviousness of his non-inclusion in the selected few.  Then Casey Research will squeeze out another piece that backs up Doug Casey’s view of his by-his-own-bootstraps success as a “proven wealth producer”, unlike anyone anywhere who might benefit from that misallocation of capital and total waste known as charity or compassion, totally ignoring the accident of birth as a US-born white male that is responsible for about 90% of Casey‘s so-called “success“ (as a wealth adviser).

Well, if it makes a reader angry or miserable, then it must be deep.  Fortunately, there's Tyler to make up for this click bait.

Fri, 06/15/2012 - 02:38 | 2528484 malek
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Funny. So you're trying to top it by saying all of them are completely wrong?

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