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Guest Post: De-Industrialisation And Male Jobs

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Submitted by John Aziz of Azizonomics,

A whole lot of pundits are spending column inches trying to explain the cruel reality of the last forty years — stagnant wages for full-time male workers, and falling wages for men as a whole:

And there has been a huge outgrowth of men who aren’t in the labour force. In 1954, 96 percent of American men between the ages of 25 and 54 worked. Today, that number is down to 80 percent. That’s a humungous decrease.

The question is why.

Mainstream media pundits are suggesting that men are unsuited to the present economic landscape. The suggestion is that men have been bad at adapting to change, and that women have been good at adapting to change:

In The End of Men: And the Rise of Women, Hanna Rosin argues that changes in the world economy have dramatically shifted gender roles. Women have adapted more skillfully to the new socioeconomic landscape by doggedly pursuing self-improvement opportunities, rebranding as the economy requires it, and above all possessing the kind of 21st century work attributes — such as strong communication skills, collaborative leadership and flexibility — that are nudging out the brawny, stuck-in-amber guys. Rock steadiness, long a cherished masculine trait, turns out to be about as useful in our fleet-footed economy as a flint arrowhead. Life favors the adapters, and it turns out they’re more likely to be women.

Now two things have very clearly changed for women — access to birth control, and the end of the traditional social compact where women did housework, and men did wage work. In regard to the vast majority of expanding occupations today — teaching, medical services, bureaucracy — women no longer are at a material disadvantage due to their (on average) smaller size and lesser strength.

Overall, this has meant proportionally less jobs for men, and proportionally more for women.


But it’s not just that women have been advantaged. Men have been deeply disadvantaged. In sectors that due to physical characteristics men have traditionally been dominant in — manufacturing, agriculture, forestry, mining and heavy industry — there has been a vast decline in output-as-a-percentage-of-GDP, whereas in services — a sector in which men have not traditionally dominated — there has been a vast increase.


Yet it is not the case that there are less manufacturing jobs globally. As we mostly already know, this is a case of manufacturing and industry being exported overseas, most obviously to China. China manufactures, and America consumes. This is America’s trade balance with China:


This is reflected in China’s sectoral employment balance compared to Western nations, and the world at large:


So it’s not at all the case that the United States is cutting back on industrial jobs because industry is less in demand. The United States still has plenty of demand for industry. America has cut back on industrial jobs because it has the ability to run huge trade deficits, through the dollar’s role as global reserve currency, and shipped its manufacturing industry abroad. Other countries have required dollars for trade purposes, so have been more than happy to sell to the United States, making dollars and debt the United States’ greatest exports.

Yet the present paradigm has severely damaged the prospects of young men, for whom a generation ago jobs in industry and manufacturing were once plentiful. Quantitative easing led to a jobs boom — in China, for Chinese industrial workers. That doesn’t help the growing chunk of the male population in the United States who have been shut out of the job market by the rise of America’s Chinese addiction.

And it seems unlikely that the industrial jobs are coming back any time soon. Although there are reasons why America may soon import less from China — rising energy and transport costs, rising Asian wage costs, and questions of the dollar’s sole reserve currency status — there are plenty of places in Latin America with cheap and plentiful labour for America’s corporate elite to set up factories. Even the manufacturing jobs that remain in America will be under threat from increased automation and robotics.

This implies that barring a miracle, joblessness and stagnant or falling real wages will continue to be a significant and worsening challenge for young Americans, and particularly men, in the coming years.


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Tue, 09/11/2012 - 23:00 | 2784089 Segestan
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Very true... but you need to add the millions of legal and illegal immigrants into the mix to understand what the NWO has done to America.

Tue, 09/11/2012 - 23:17 | 2784125 Ahmeexnal
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Please replace any occurence of the word "male" with "MULE" in this article.


Wed, 09/12/2012 - 00:02 | 2784190 Oh regional Indian
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It's why there are wars, to cull males. 

Mechanization was wave I. Robotization is wave II.

And with reports that women can self-re-produce, prehaps our days are NUMBered after all?

Adapt of die-off, Dogs.


Wed, 09/12/2012 - 00:16 | 2784217 AldousHuxley
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in the monkey kingdom, females regardless of status decides as a group to let the top male at the time mate with them.

the rest of the males challenge the alpha male time to time and if he wins then he gets to mate them all.



females can only spawn so fast, but males can mate in parallel.


also in IQ tests, females are mostly average, but males range is far greater with top and bottom IQ.



It is the males who are put to competition, then females get to judge which male can procreate the next generation gene pool.




Wed, 09/12/2012 - 01:41 | 2784344 Oh regional Indian
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AH, looks like a monkey or three do not like our views on Maledom. :-)


Wed, 09/12/2012 - 03:21 | 2784437 AldousHuxley
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can't handle the truth I guess or bunch of enuchs selected to guard the queen....




Wed, 09/12/2012 - 08:56 | 2785145 SWRichmond
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Well, it is a kind of war, isn't it?

To my way of thinking, there have always been two wars constantly raging through history: the war between old money and new money, and the war between men and women. 

By co-opting government, with the help of pussified males like Biden (read about his personal history and upbringing), women have changed the cultural landscape to suit themselves and their kind.  The war on men is especially obvious in campaign season, used as an effort to get out the women to vote against the men's interests.  Isn't it?

And it seems unlikely that the industrial jobs are coming back any time soon.

Destruction of the dollar will go a long way towards "fixing" this.  We will start digging resources again, and making stuff.

Tue, 09/11/2012 - 23:27 | 2784138 ACP
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Please replace "illegal" with "undocumented." According to new DOJ policy, it is only illegal to steal another person's identity if you are a citizen.

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 00:22 | 2784226 AldousHuxley
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US government doesn't give a shit just like Roman Catholic Church as long as number of slaves keeps increasing.

Tue, 09/11/2012 - 23:00 | 2784090 sangell
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Very true and at low and entry level employment being docile and compliant is helpful but these are not characteristic traits in young men. It isalso the case that our over credentialed society favors women. There are more women enrolled in higher education than men. A young man finding himself in a subordinate position to a young female is not natural in a biological sense so it is no surprise that it doesn't work too well in man made civilization either. Toss in a healthy dose of politically correct liberalism and a young man today can soon find himself on the outs with society.

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 00:01 | 2784187 blunderdog
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Prisoners have always got a reason why they're in the cage.  It's all just too unfair.

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 17:01 | 2787441 blunderdog
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Everyone knows: when things get tough, REAL MEN take it out on the women they "love."

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 00:42 | 2784268 AurorusBorealus
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You are precisely correct on every point, sir.

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 08:34 | 2785053 rustymason
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Our school system rewards those who are morally and intellectually weak. It rewards those who do not question what they are told and who go along with the program so long as they personally profit in the short term by it. It punishes men, who see the commie, anti-man, anti-Western, anti-White government propaganda for what it is, which is why so many have been abandoning the system. 

Cvilization without men will last only until the next oil change. When it all finally comes crashing down, when it becomes MadMax time again, watch these same hateful, feminazi whores singing a much different tune.

Tue, 09/11/2012 - 23:03 | 2784091 prains
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how else are you going to build an army to fight iran?

Tue, 09/11/2012 - 23:38 | 2784155 Renewable Life
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China and Russia more likely!

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 07:55 | 2784873 Metalredneck
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Staging it in Iran keeps the home fires from burning out of control.

Tue, 09/11/2012 - 23:08 | 2784103 Atomizer
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Have decided to give Israel the full green light to bomb Iran. No need to demonstrate Central Planners miscalculated decisions. Let’s just begin this process. When everyone figures out your killing people to keep your monetary situation as the primary goal to --‘kick the can down the road further’. 

I want to see two countries get blown into glass. I beg you Israel, attack very soon.. We have a bet going on, I don’t like to lose.

Once you engage Iran in attack, we have new ideas on how we will make money of the destruction of Iran or your US funded step child country.  

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, forget meeting with Obama and just pull the trigger.. LOL. We have new globalization programs to fill supply chain demands. Didn’t you get the memo?

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 00:08 | 2784201 Fecklesslackey
Tue, 09/11/2012 - 23:07 | 2784105 Temporalist
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There are more than manufacturing job problems.  In the US and globally college students can't get employment.

Skip College Is Top Advice for World-Beating South Koreans: Jobs


The student loan bubble is going to burst soon one would think.

Tue, 09/11/2012 - 23:48 | 2784162 Stuck on Zero
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Part of the problem is that our educational system and Universities are not really teaching anything of value other than subservience.  All the shop courses have been eliminated. I am exposed to hundreds of University students and not one of them has the skills to clean a toilet.


Tue, 09/11/2012 - 23:58 | 2784180 Cast Iron Skillet
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but can they program hft algos?

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 03:42 | 2784447 AldousHuxley
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speaking of toilets.....North Korea has toilets and sinks with label "American Standard". America still makes damn good toilets.

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 10:57 | 2785867 Stuck on Zero
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American Standard moved it's corporate headquarters and all production overseas.


Wed, 09/12/2012 - 05:32 | 2784605 Acet
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Funny enough, most programmers in IT are males. Since, as some people say, software is consuming everything else (i.e. everything is becoming dependent on software), I guess this might keep some of the males of the species employed. Also, as somebody pointed out above, the spread of IQs is bigger in males than females, so there are more males at the genious level - and at the dumb-as-a-door level - than females, which will probably give some males an edge since software continues to increase in complexity.

That said, the newest generation of university trained programmers are a bit lacking. In fact, in general university trained programmers have always been a bit lacking. That or I'm just an old crust from the time when most devs were hacker types that had taught themselves how to code and did not necessarily had a degree and if they did it wasn't necessarilly computer science.


Wed, 09/12/2012 - 03:45 | 2784451 uff the fluff
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Nope. It's logical and somewhat true in some circumstances, but as the example of Korea shows there really just aren't that many new things to do no matter how many people are educated, even in practical fields.


Unless we get a second act similar to the advent of agriculture or the industrial revolution(s) we'll face massive oversupplies of labor in every country on Earth. We already have a massive oversupply of industrial capacity in nearly every nation save the most poor, oversupply of capital, oversupply of debt. The whole economy of the whole world seems to be unable to allocate resources now that what looks an awful lot like an end to (much of) scarcity has been achieved. I'd like to say that simple mal-investment on a grand scale is what ails us and that we could be making use of all these people and all this technology and all this (relative) peace, but the facts on the ground are not encouraging. Sexbots, self-driving cars, machine learning. I'd like to imagine that this is simply a transitional phase and in a decade or three this will sound like the wrongheaded prognostications of a neo-Luddite, but damn does it look hard to find uses for all that we have in the current paradigm. And, no, having less is in no way an answer.


Good times.


Tue, 09/11/2012 - 23:09 | 2784106 masaccio
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Good thing none of those angry white unemployed men have guns.



Wed, 09/12/2012 - 08:24 | 2785009 blindfaith
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It is monkey wrenches I'd be worried about.  Automation is the one subject that keeps being left out.  Think of the millions of jobs lost to automation....not Chinese, Korean, Japanese, Mexicans, Canadians, Australians or any one or illegal.

And, the political jaw-bone crap is just that...crap.  NO ONE has any clue how to end this unemployment (or create jobs).

Not one idea, not one concept, not one proposal from any POLITIAN anywhere...not industry for that matter.  Any attempt to come up with a possible solution is shot down by paid special interests.  So, Alice....nothing will change in our lifetimes and a gun is not going to solve anything, ONLY ideas, guts, and compromise of pig headed people.

Tue, 09/11/2012 - 23:09 | 2784107 Yes_Questions
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Dey took are tertiary jerbs!


Tue, 09/11/2012 - 23:12 | 2784108 El Tuco
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All you have to do to get every man in America working is add a 20% tariff to everything coming from China. That 20 % added would take away the 20% the Chinese government gives to the any company exporting anything abroad ( at least in the industry I am in).

It's not just cheaper labor. The whole manufacturing industry is subsidized by the government. They can work at a loss and still make money when they submit their shipping records to the Gov to get their rebate.

But with the corporate monarchy running America there is no chance of any tariffs.

Tue, 09/11/2012 - 23:14 | 2784115 sangell
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I suspect we will be gaining that without tariffs as North American energy costs slide relative to Asia. The problem is Democrats will probably want to tax that advantage away to fund welfare social programs rather than allow our industry use it to provide jobs.

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 03:49 | 2784452 AldousHuxley
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all males just unite and do what males do best.....go crazy and burn the system down...and restart.


you don't see bunch of women in Arab Spring.

or Chinese women standing in front of Chinese tanks

or women monks self-immolating themselves


elites are afraid of large groups of young males....that's why they have wars during high send them off....


Aztec kings used to have basketball tournaments where the winning team gets to be the lucky sacrifices to the fire gods....just a trick to curtail the strongest young males....

Tue, 09/11/2012 - 23:18 | 2784128 Yes_Questions
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Yet another reminder that Cunning and Greed have staked a claim to the US Government.

On a long enough timeline..

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 00:00 | 2784183 billsykes
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The chinese work at more than a loss they pay to make stuff. All those cheap chinese govt loans, free money like crazy. What do we have, ninja loans, big deal.

I would just place a ban on all chinese stuff, and VAT the fuck out of all imports like germany.

What has globalization done besides fuck everyone over?

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 00:06 | 2784195 blunderdog
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More government intervention is sure to help.  And how.

Tue, 09/11/2012 - 23:17 | 2784124 The Shootist
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They took arrrr jarbs!!

Tue, 09/11/2012 - 23:17 | 2784126 Renewable Life
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Which is why America now leads the world in incarcerated males by percentage of population AND actual physical bodies in the system!!!!

See we are still #1 in something!!!!!!!

It's something like 25 million men who are either serving time, been paroled, on probation, or finished with their sentence but where convicted and did time!!! It's like 30% of the male population between the ages of 18-35!

America is already like a prison country!!

Tue, 09/11/2012 - 23:22 | 2784132 Yes_Questions
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Human tag and release business.


Wed, 09/12/2012 - 01:05 | 2784309 mkhs
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I thought that was what smartphones were for.

Tue, 09/11/2012 - 23:50 | 2784165 Stuck on Zero
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Over 60% of the incarcerated are illegal aliens or recent immigrants.  I think a lot of countries send their criminals here to get rid of them.  We are the jailers to the world.


Wed, 09/12/2012 - 00:09 | 2784203 Renewable Life
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I'm sorry but that is made up bullshit, I have very close friends that are on the front lines of both enforcement and prosecution in California, and that 60% myth bullshit is just not even close man!!

It's like 5-10% illegals on the state and local level, which by the way, is where 90% of the arrest in your community take place, not at the federal level! I'm not saying illegal immigration isn't a huge problem in this Country, because it is, but trying to create a fantasy world where a majority of the criminals are not American citizens, so you can feed some miss guided and miss informed notion you have about reality, and if we just sealed the southern border, shit would be Iike Mayberry suddenly, is bullshit!!!!

Mayberry was a fucking Hollywood creation, it never existed in America!

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 08:49 | 2785119 rustymason
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"Mayberry was a fucking Hollywood creation, it never existed in America!"

100% incorrect. I grew up in that old world, it most certainly did exist. Compared to today, it was heaven on earth. Compared to today, there was no divorce, no crime, no drug problem, no big government problem. In the towns I lived in and visited, some close to big cities, no one locked their doors or windows and many left their keys in their cars. Porn, prostitution, and bad language were confined to tightly restricted areas away from popular society. People dressed nice and took care of things. Child molesters and rapists were almost unheard of rare and would receive vigilante justice promptly. The country was over 90% white and peaceful. There were no race problems, the races left each other alone. We had a real, functioning society. But then the radical liberals / commies came along and screwed it all up. I know because I was there, I saw the transition to today's Hell happen day by day.

Tue, 09/11/2012 - 23:18 | 2784129 q99x2
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Maybe they don't want to fuckin work. eh?

Tue, 09/11/2012 - 23:22 | 2784133 youngman
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Unions priced our labor out of the market when the market became a world market...Enviromentalists priced us out did trial lawyers...and as of today its a desire to work...I do not think the kids today have a desire to work...40 hours a week...let alone a 60 hour week...our easy Government subsidies..welfare..has made it to easy to the USA will have to reset I think...we need a good get the ethic back in our lives..

Tue, 09/11/2012 - 23:33 | 2784146 The Shootist
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We'll get whatever it is that we deserve.

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 03:55 | 2784455 AldousHuxley
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no union in north korea.


it is a wonderful country for one Kim.

Tue, 09/11/2012 - 23:36 | 2784151 El Tuco
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I think...we need a good get the ethic back in our lives..

I don't think that will be enough. The only way we will get a reset will be if people are starving to death in the streets and that isn't going to happen in a country where half the food produced is thrown out. We could feed another America with all the food that goes to waste.

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 05:11 | 2784579 AldousHuxley
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that's what the market is pushing for and what the fed is resisting.


depression will make elite's assets in land and equities plummet to the real value..... they hate that.

Tue, 09/11/2012 - 23:57 | 2784179 Anusocracy
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In just a little over two centuries, Americans have traded a system based on freedom, liberty, and minimal government, for a system that combines the worst attributes of hunter-gatherer culture and the culture of pharonic Egypt.

It isn't working, and it won't work, in a modern technological world.

Tue, 09/11/2012 - 23:33 | 2784145 Sandmann
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The Pre-Industrial World was heavily  dominated by Services such as Government, Church, Law and the rest were left in subsistence agriculture. It is only industrialisation that allowed large populations to be supported when the workforce left the land as agricultural productivity improved in the 18th Century in places like England - in Ireland they simply starved. The Manufacturing Base needed exports and the Service Sector lives on debased currencies as it sucks in imports.

Paying a lawyer £300/hr. is not a sign of a growing economy when a manufacturing worker costs £24/hr to manufacture salable output - it is the sign of a non-competitive structure failing the Law of One Price through lack of global competition in Services. All Law Firms are really adjuncts of Government Bureaucracy not private sector production - lawyers are outsourced filing clerks for The State.

Tue, 09/11/2012 - 23:55 | 2784176 billsykes
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Still don't understand why lawyers and almost all accountants haven't been outsourced/automated yet. They have trucks that drive autonomously now replacing truck drivers,

How hard is it to replace and cut n pasters and and bean counters?


Wed, 09/12/2012 - 00:14 | 2784214 edifice
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Actually, a lot of the grunt work lawyers and legal assistants do is being automated. A buddy of mine did some contract work, for Lexis Nexis, automating the creation and editing of statutes for the State of Colorado. it's a booming business.

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 00:17 | 2784219 Anusocracy
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It's coming.

It took about 10,000 years for technology to wring most of the inefficiencies out of the Agricultural age. For the Industrial Age, a couple of centuries. For the Information Age, it will be less than a century.

What comes next is a lot of spare time.


Wed, 09/12/2012 - 11:33 | 2786033 BooMushroom
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A diamond age?

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 00:20 | 2784224 Renewable Life
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Ahhhhhh lawyer bashing, and talking about the founding principles of our Country in the same breath! A majority of our fucking founding fathers WERE lawyers you rocket scienctist, including the two who are responsible for the three most cherished documents in American history, the bill of rights, the declaration of independence, and the constitution, John Adams and Thomas Jefferson!!!

Read their biography's again and maybe you'll get a fucking clue about what role lawyers played and do play in our civil society!! Because you know what societies don't have much use for lawyers, dictatorships, monarchs, theocratic dictatorships, and communist ones!!!

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 07:26 | 2784783 CaptainObvious
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Most of our presidents have been lawyers or have gone to law school, so that's pretty lame argument there.  Including the current president.  Do you imagine Obummer is on par with Thomas Jefferson?

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 07:29 | 2784788 Dr. Acula
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>A majority of our fucking founding fathers WERE lawyers

So they're responsible for the tyranny we see around us?

Is it just to cage people who carry the wrong kind of plant?

Is it logical to hear an antitrust suit at a monopoly venue?

Is it virtuous to memorize the arcane and archaic jargon of monopoly criminal organizations?

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 17:00 | 2787436 blunderdog
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Jefferson didn't have much to do with the Constitution, or the Bill of Rights.  It was basically written by Madison, with a bit of help from Hamilton. 

Jefferson was in FRANCE at the time.

You get a banana sticker for knowing he wrote the Declaration of Independence.

Tue, 09/11/2012 - 23:50 | 2784167 Colonel Klink
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You didn't lose those jobs, government helped you with that!

Makes me want to punch babies the fucktards we've had running our great nation.

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 00:42 | 2784265 Manthong
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You didn’t Create that $650 Trillion derivatives overhang, government helped you with that!
You didn’t bankrupt those solar power companies, government helped you with that!
You ddin’t lose your life savings to Bernie Madoff, government helped you with that!
You didn’t run up that $16 Trillion national debt, government helped you with that!
You didn’t incinerate that Volt, government helped you with that!
You didn’t collapse those towers, government helped you with that!

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 04:00 | 2784460 AldousHuxley
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truth is government owns all rules all


that's why first thing new money wants is government position and power that comes with it becaus ethye realize that even with billions, they are still under the thumb of government.


government owns the monetary system, owns the banks now, owns trade policies, owns military and police thugs, owns laws, owns land, owns pretty much all your real assets as they get taxed.



Tue, 09/11/2012 - 23:52 | 2784170 billsykes
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They shouldn't even be voting let alone managing people.

Ever had a good female boss, that didn't overcompensate or even hear of a competent female CEO?

didn't think so.

Vote up if you agree.


Wed, 09/12/2012 - 03:18 | 2784434 Ar-Pharazôn
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it's plenty of good female bosses. if you are a misogynist that's your fault, sure not woman fault...


Woman are less inclined to risky trade while man go all in even in the most risky.


sir you are a retarded

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 04:26 | 2784490 AldousHuxley
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risk adverse women <> female bosses


power is not good under hormal emotional control with people with chip on their shoulder


"when I started in this business, it was me and 15 guys and I had to pay my dues, but lucky for you, times are different and you don’t have to go through the same crap that I did"


Rich mostly pick traditional nice sweet beautiful women as wives to nurture their family, whereas the beta males not only have to compete with lesbians at work but also deal with them after work at home.



Wed, 09/12/2012 - 04:29 | 2784495 Parrotile
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Unfortunately history tells us that those who are prepared to take the risks (often risking all) are the ones who get results, and produce the changes that we all eventually benefit from, and this dates back to the Stoneage.



Wed, 09/12/2012 - 05:17 | 2784590 AldousHuxley
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you risk other's lives, money, resources thereby externalizing risks while privitizing any gains are the ones who get ahead.



Wed, 09/12/2012 - 05:57 | 2784643 Acet
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Some of my worst managers and some of my best managers were female.

Frankly, they're not better or worse than the males, just different in their approach.

Then again it depends on the country you're in and, more in general, of the culture in that country. The one female manager I had in England was the worst ever and kept her job by being flirty to her managers and looking pretty, while all the female managers I had in Holland were excelent. It should be no surprise since in England women are taught they're supposed to be weak and worry about their looks while in Holland they're treated like equals and are supposed to stand up for themselves (and, frankly, dutch women don't need to do much of an effort to look good).

My feeling is also that in each cultural environment the mid and high-level male managers will select and promote the female managers under them who fit the local stereotypes (which is why in Holland, a very equalitarian country, assertive women are far more easilly accepted as managers while in England they're expected to be soft, dress atractivelly and maybe even use their female wiles on the males)

I reckon that your experience of overcompensation by the part of female managers comes from a culture were women are expected to be weak, feminine and pliable, so many female managers feel the need to constantly show they're not in order to reassert their authority.

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 07:18 | 2784766 Dr. Acula
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>They shouldn't even be voting let alone managing people.

There are technical jobs where I wouldn't bother interviewing women. The chance of finding a female who can do the job is too low to make it worthwhile.

But, alas, the free market isn't allowed to operate and to find the best answer to this question. The government arbitrarily hampers the free market with its "equality" nonsense.


Tue, 09/11/2012 - 23:52 | 2784172 Don Smith
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"They say these jobs are goin', boy, and they ain't comin' your hometown."

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 00:10 | 2784205 edifice
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1. 2/3 of Americans—men and women—couldn't perform a manual labor job, because they're overweight or obese.

2. Women entering the workforce was not about gender equality. The central planners needed more "workers" (read "tax units") on the books.

3. Apprenticeships and trade schools are booming, as the Millennial generation discovers that traditional 4-year degrees are becoming increasingly worthless.

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 00:21 | 2784225 Heyoka Bianco
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"Becoming increasingly worthless"? The increase in "accessibility" that created the student loan buble has already eviscerated what tiny value the high-school-after-high-school once had. Just check the number of incoming freshman who need remedial classes in basic English and math. College has become a bigger scam than the lottery.

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 04:35 | 2784509 Parrotile
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The Colleges profit handsomely; they get the "up front" payment, almost no strings attached. The Graduate leaves with a substantial loan, which is NOT dischargeable under current Bankruptcy provisions.

And these loans now number about $ 1 trillion . . . . , with the likelihood of the graduates netting a "decent paying job" decreasing year on year.

Welcome to the "New Normal"!

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 00:24 | 2784229 yogibear
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The Banksters have created slaves. They had the youth sign their souls away for a 4 or 5 year education then they took ownership of their lives with a loan that cannot be released without payment in full. Decades of debt unless the loans can be defaulted.

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 04:30 | 2784498 AldousHuxley
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debt = bonds = bondage ........basicall you are someone else's bitch.


it is 3 years of corporate slavery for college while in other countries, it is 2-3 years of military service.

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 04:38 | 2784519 Parrotile
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The way things are panning out Worldwide, I'd reckon the 2-3 years in the Military would be a better bet (providing you don't become "a Statistic"). At least you'd end up with "marketable skills" in the future Prison Planet era!

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 11:42 | 2786081 BooMushroom
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As long as the military maintains its standards, it will be better than a degree with no standards. Again with the caveat that it does no good if you don't make it out alive.

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 00:33 | 2784245 Heyoka Bianco
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I would also like to repeat a previous question on the "service" jobs that drive the increase in women in th workforce: what percentage are government jobs? "The vast majority of expanding occupations today teaching, medical services, bureaucracy", all three are direct government or quasi goverment employment.

The biggest growth in "services" is financial services, so let's not get too excited about another "new" economy. And let's all sit a minute and contemplate how this rise in female employment dovetails with the fact that the majority (58%) of new jobs in this "recovery" are low wage. I think the words we are looking for are "dead-end" and "unsustainable" and "poverty level".

If this country spent money repairing its pathetically decrepit infrastructure, how fast do you think this 'trend' would reverse?

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 11:44 | 2786087 BooMushroom
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No jobs for burly white males, said the Stimulator In Chief.

Shovels are sexist.

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 00:46 | 2784277 strayaway
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President Obama's original stimulus proposal had a lot of infrastructure projects included. However, protests arose that most infrastructure jobs would go to men. 

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 04:07 | 2784466 magpie
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Well, at least now you know your goose is cooked.

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 01:14 | 2784314 AurorusBorealus
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"Women have adapted more skillfully to the new socioeconomic landscape by doggedly pursuing self-improvement opportunities, rebranding as the economy requires it"

So typical of bullshit feminist propaganda.  Let us get some FACTs straight.  1)  Universities activity discriminate against white males.  There can be no question about this... it is a plain fact.  As a result 58% of all undergraduates are female.  Don't believe me .  2)  Men are actively discriminated against in all government hiring.  3) Boys are actively discriminated against in public schools (because 81.1% of all elementary and middle school teachers are women-- the book to read on the subject is The War against Boys.  4)  Women have not "skillfully adapted."  They pursue most of the same careers that they always have: nursing, teaching, service work, and clerical.  92.1% of all nurses are women.  76% of all public school teachers are women.  96.1% of all secretaries are women.  73.7% of all cashiers are women.  89% of all maids are women. ( ).  Hanna Rosin has presented the typical feminist argument... all bullshit and no fact.  As John Aziz points out, these are precisely the areas of the economy that the global reserve currency has allowed to grow by masking gross inefficiencies and unproductiveness of the American economy.

Now... let us establish a point of real fact.  The advent of feminism has conincided with the destruction of the family unit, by convincing women to leave their husbands through the same type of ridiculous propaganda that Hanna Rosin presents.  Nearly 80% of all divorces are initiated by women.  Nearly 90% of all welfare recipients are single mothers and their children.  The expansion of the welfare state and feminism go hand in hand... you could not have had one without the other.  When the history of the fall of the West is finally written truthfully... feminism will be shown to have played a key role in bringing about the destruction of Western Civilization.

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 01:32 | 2784333 Cathartes Aura
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hahhhahahhh. . .

When the history of the fall of the West is finally written truthfully... feminism will be shown to have played a key role in bringing about the destruction of Western Civilization.

tad hysterical there, son.

the "advent of feminism" - are you aware that dates back to the late 1700's?   do you even know what "feminism" is, or advocates?  the strange and novel notion that women are humans too!

Mary Wollstonecraft is considered one of the earliest "feminist" thinkers,

Wollstonecraft is best known for A Vindication of the Rights of Woman (1792), in which she argues that women are not naturally inferior to men, but appear to be only because they lack education. She suggests that both men and women should be treated as rational beings and imagines a social order founded on reason.

and she argued for allowing women the right to education at higher learning/universities - which were male only.  centuries of educating only men resulted in the belief that only men were capable of thinking, a privilege that increasingly is being shown as nonsense.

most of your "opinions" above are based on fairly recent backlash promoted by right wing radio hosts, men of course.  I seriously doubt you've done more than research their shallow talking points to reinforce your sense of injustice that men, and white men at that, are NOT the center of the universe. . .

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 04:37 | 2784515 AldousHuxley
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it is not matter of who is superior or inferior sex.

Is quarterback more valuable than a running back or a head coach or defensive end?

When a running back wants to be the quarterback, you have a team with 2 quarterbacks and no running back.


when smallest working unit of families break down, then society becomes unstable and unproductive....



Wed, 09/12/2012 - 10:56 | 2785862 AurorusBorealus
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I know all about your feminist pseudo-history.  I had it shoved down my throat for years in the American university.  You have no idea what you are writing about and are merely aping one of the many rubbish presentations made by some feminist, hired to teach propaganda in the name of gender equity.  Do you have any idea how colleges functioned in the 18th century, prior to the French Revolution?  Most universities were owned and operated by a church, mostly the Catholic Church... you know, where only men could be priests.    Colleges trained in law and religion primarily, mostly in latin (except at Oxford and Cambridge), and less than 1% of the population attended college, nobility almost exclusively.  Are you trying to argue that those poor noble women of France, such as Marie Antionette, were discriminated against horribly?  Now in England, Cambridge did begin to teach and sponsor the mechanics and mathematics of Newton.. maybe this is what you mean... that the poor petty gentry women of England could not learn their Newton at Cambridge?  Well... it didn't hurt the women in France, since Newton was translated into French by Madame du Chatelet (who corrected some of his math mistakes) and held "salons" to discuss the latest works of the French Enlightenment and Newton.

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 11:56 | 2786138 BooMushroom
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But he did not say that feminism will bring down the universe! He said that it is bringing down Western Civilization.

Real men love and respect women, and real women love and respect their men. They work together to build a family, and their family works to build their community.

Without love, respect, work, family, and community, you have no Western Civilization. And I think that feminism undermines most of those qualities.

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 03:22 | 2784438 Ar-Pharazôn
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looks like you want to live in Saudi Arabia ;) go there and have fun

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 01:13 | 2784320 Cathartes Aura
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wow, we just barely laid this topic to rest on the weekend thread, but hey, I'll bite.

"male jobs"?  are we assigning gender to "jobs" now?

In 1954, 96 percent of American men between the ages of 25 and 54 worked. Today, that number is down to 80 percent.

in the 50's post-WW2 social engineering demanded women leave the heavy manufacturing jobs they patriotically took on when the men were shipped overseas to war - hence the emphasis on the 50's housewife meme, and the resulting baby boom.

middle- and upper-class were the only university/college goers, most men didn't graduate high school, but went into labouring jobs, apprenticed even.  their female counterparts did production line, waitressing, and other jobs not requiring higher education.  some did quick nursing school certificates, etc.

another couple wars kept men employed, but after Vietnam, the cheerleading for uniformed hit a backlash, and it became less appealing to go kill people in other nations on behalf of governments.

but we all (should) know that bringing more women into the work force was made possible by lowering the wages, a capitalist's wet dream.  add the increasing "globalisation" of the marketplace, "special economic zones" in foreign nations that allowed for shit wages for the locals, and massive profiteering for the amrkn corporations (the majority of which are headed by "male jobs" even now).

truth is some men don't want to do a job that isn't gendered "manly" - ie, one that a woman might also be able to do.  they don't want a woman boss, they enjoy the all male workspace, and resent like hell not being able to keep their special status fed them in the past.

they were labeled "breadwinners" when the "nuclear family" meme was all the rage.  women were paid 2/3 what a man earned for the same job, because they weren't "supposed" to be head-of-household (even when they were, or when they were merely trying to support themselves sans a man's wages).  it's hard to teach an old dog new tricks. . .

these "outsourced" jobs that are being sent to other nationstates, and taken up at much lower wages - are they all hiring women to do these jobs?  or, *gasp* are men in other countries just accepting that this is the wage for the work required now? 

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 01:18 | 2784324 AurorusBorealus
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The nuclear family was all the rage for about 6000 years until roughly 1972 with the advent of "no fault" divorce laws.  You will note that 1972-3 is perhaps the most pivotal year in modern history.. end of gold, no-fault divorce, legal abortion... .

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 01:46 | 2784349 Cathartes Aura
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 nonsense.  the "nuclear family" label is a cultural construct, post WW2, here's your archetypal pic;,_circa_1955.jpg

note the fair complexion & blonde hair. . .  *eye roll*

extended family units, including generations under one roof, or on the same family land, was more the historical norm - the "nuclear family" is social engineering designed to create identical units of consumption, and profit.

every family buys a house and fills it with identical shit - everyone buys a car, a washing machine, a stove, a fridge, a lawnmower, etc. etc - CONSUMER CULTURE is what nuclear family is all about.  not sharing, not saving, CONSUMING. 

as to you being butt hurt by Ronnie Reagan signing "no fault divorce" into being,


A 2004 Stanford Business School study[20] compared outcomes in states that adopted no-fault divorce versus those that did not. It found:

  • 20% reduction in female suicide after 20 years, none for men
  • 33% reduction in domestic violence against women (after a rise in other states vs. a drop in no-fault states)
  • Reduction in the domestic murder rate for women, none for men

Study authors argued that in part, men were encouraged to behave better because they knew it would be easy for their spouses to divorce and find another partner.[20]

ahh, well, I guess I see the reasoning. . .

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 03:11 | 2784430 ebworthen
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You are arguing the same thing, and something completely different.

Many Women of the "new era" are out of control Diva's who worship at the altar of juvenile narcissism; no fealty to mate, family, or society.

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 03:27 | 2784439 Ar-Pharazôn
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let them do it. let them have their so called freedom. i love you're concept of "out of control Diva's who worship at the altar of juvenile narcisism". They will pay for it when they will be 40, getting older and alone ;)

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 08:05 | 2784929 Metalredneck
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This is OK.  Lots of cats need homes.

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 11:12 | 2785951 AurorusBorealus
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Oh rubbish. The "nuclear family" that you are discussing is a word-play, that uses the ridiculous literary theory of Jacques Diderot to try to link the age of nuclear weapons with the term "nuclear family."  This type of thing is precisely what I refer to when I state that feminism is nothing but propaganda devoid of any fact.  The average life expectancy of human beings did not surpass 50 years until early in the 20th century, a result of the widespread use of aseptic techniques in medicine and the end of many contagious diseases, because of immunity acquired over generations (most notable bubonic plague but also tuberculosis).  It was not until the 1960s that average life expectancy went beyond 70 years, as a result of antibiotics.   There were no public institutions to care for the elderly, because most people died before they ceased being productive.  Children did often live at home with their parents for several years after marrying, in large part, because folk tended to marry at 18 or younger, and had little wealth with which to establish their own households.  Generally, however, the goal and the norm throughout Western Civiliation was to establish a household as soon as one had the means.  Now then, peasants had to have the permission of the landlord to construct and establish new households, and since the bulk of the population was peasantry, the process of establishing new households was difficult and time-consuming, especially in Russia and Eastern Europe.  So what exactly are you trying to argue again?  That the family only existed in 1950-1972 in the United States?  You are quite insane if you believe this to be true.

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 01:15 | 2784322 hedgehog9999
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"Quantitative easing led to a jobs boom — in China, for Chinese industrial workers. "


The upcoming QE Tomorrow or Thursday will fix China again so they can make more thing-a-magigs (I don't even know how to spell this product) they can sell them to everybody in the planet that can afford them.... 

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 01:41 | 2784343 plata pura
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Wed, 09/12/2012 - 04:43 | 2784528 falak pema
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protect our nuts first and foremost! 


Wed, 09/12/2012 - 02:42 | 2784403 Nassim
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Men are in the wealth-creating sectors and women are in the service industries. Not much wealth-creation going on in the USA versus plenty in China.

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 04:14 | 2784476 uff the fluff
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Bollocks. You may be right about the US, but that the CCP is operating some sort of capitalist utopia is laughable. Government loans to government companies to make party memebrs rich ain't much different than the sytem in the US.

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 02:43 | 2784408 luckylongshot
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The current situation is so dire because as Ellen Brown puts it "The parasite is killing the dog". The Rockefeller, Morgan and Rothschild controlled banking system is destroying the middle classes and the economy. In the 13th century, when there was no parasite, there was no poverty as we know it today in any class and the average laborer only needed to work 14 weeks a year to support his family. If technology is making manufacturing jobs obsolete it should mean that people can work less. That it is not is simply a sign of how greedy the parasite has become.

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 03:06 | 2784422 ebworthen
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Wed, 09/12/2012 - 03:09 | 2784426 endorush
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Feminism has gone too far.  It was supposed to be about "equality" between men and women.  But it's gone way beyond that.  Feminists will fight to death for anything and everything to empower females, but will never even consider anything that gives men power (even if it's fair).  Take, take, take, and never give.

Feminist movement is NOT about equality.  It's about making females the dominant sex.

Feminists rally together to PROTEST a male birth control pill. They're fighting against the research/development of the male birth control pill, because it gives men more control over our own reproductive rights.  Feminists want full control over all reproductive rights.

To feminists, only women should be able to decide whether sex without a condom is going to result in pregnancy or not.  Us men apparently don't have the right to take a pill to make that decision for ourselves.

* * *

I'm a genuine reader here at Zerohedge, I'm not a spammer, but I want to share this link:

Every man should read that site.  It's a blog site, and very similar to ZH because it "goes against the grain".  But it's all about exposing the double standards in modern society that give preference to females over males.

The modern day male is being emasculated and doesn't even realize it. 

For real, read a couple articles on that site and spread the word.  Us men need to take the power back and not let these crazy feminists turn us into worthless "feminized" males who's only purpose is to serve some unappreciative woman.

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 03:20 | 2784431 ebworthen
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Too many Women fail to realize that what they perceive to gain with feminism they take away from themselves and society.

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 05:03 | 2784566 AldousHuxley
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feminism was only good for dykes.


normal women want to stay home raise kids, look good when shopping.


pre-feminism, middle class women could retire early. now only top 1% of women can live like that.

now they have to compete with women who won't be having any children because she is a workaholic.


with feminism, came freedom, but also responsibility.....and of course top 0.1% of women still just marry money and never do any real work....(see Ann Romney)



Wed, 09/12/2012 - 15:57 | 2787168 Cathartes Aura
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yup, youse need to "take your power back" from feminazi types who are killing amrkn society!

but first, would you please define "feminism" for your stormtroopers?  I'd be most interested to understand exactly how you are using this label, and to whom it applies. . .

for instance, you are aware of male "feminists" - apparently they go with the accepted definition,

World English Dictionary
feminism  (?f?m??n?z?m)
a doctrine or movement that advocates equal rights for women

^ every definition at this ^^ search says pretty much the same thing. . .

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 03:10 | 2784427 endorush
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double post, sorry

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 04:33 | 2784491 falak pema
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One of the most prescient books written in the Middle Ages was "Treatise of the Three Imposters".

Attributed to Frederick II this blasphemous diatribe took "the mickey" out of the three Abrahamic religions; at the time when this brilliant Emperor, Stupor Mundi, was having problems with the Popes in civil war, who admonished his diplomacy to share Jerusalem with the Moslems via a peace treaty instead of waging the Crusades.

Of course Frederick II, a man way ahead of his times, lost his political battle and the Clash of Civilizations continued under Saint Louis and the Seventh Crusade; with results that were disastrous for the Christian presence in Holy Land subsequently. 

Having disseminated war for so many centuries all over the world, the three religion tradition of Abrahamic patriarchal culture is now being questioned both in its gender pre-eminence as well as for its ideological and dogmatic message. Our current ME Gordian knot in the Oil patch is an iconic example of this civilization cul-de-sac.

"The future of man is woman" is now becoming an irresistable, potent, and fashionable theme to dig humanity out of its hurtling trajectory, like a SUper Nova heading towards oblivion. As this current male domination culture leads us to MAD militarist momentum of irreversible consequences.

Veneria and Artemis have to be reborn in this new age of Oligarchy feudalism. And Iphigenie, eternal female sacrifice to male hubris, be resurrected like the Phoenix reborn from its ashes.

The world needs Gender balance, as half of us have "the other attribute" between their legs. 

Treatise of the Three Impostors - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 07:14 | 2784717 Dr. Acula
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>the three religion tradition of Abrahamic patriarchal culture is now being questioned both in its gender pre-eminence as well as for its ideological and dogmatic message

The parts I question include the invisible sky daddy and combustible shrubberies.

>half of us have "the other attribute" between their legs.

AFAIK most people have reproductive organs.

>The world needs Gender balance

I'm not sure what this means.

Question: who should be paid more, a balding gambling-addicted male jew who was divorced two times, or an Asian lesbian who has two children and who suffers from fibromyalgia?


(a) The wages should be imputed through market processes based on the value provided to consumers


(b) The wages should be decided by a government formula meant to instill "balance"

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 11:18 | 2785976 AurorusBorealus
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This is gibberish and incoherent babble.  No intelligent response is possible.

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 15:41 | 2787093 Cathartes Aura
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"phew!" eh, that saves you from having to attempt. . .

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 05:30 | 2784584 californiagirl
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Maybe the problem is that there are too many overgrown boys and not enough men. Overgrown boys are threatened by women with brains. grown men are not. How did that happen? Too much estrogen-generating soy and soy derivatives in all that processed food which seems to dominate many males' diets? Too much indoctrination by the nanny state and socialist schools eliminating any sense of personal responsibility? A lack of father figures due to the increasing number of single mothers? Too much coddling by overprotective parents? The stupid way that Hollywood sitcoms seem to portray males as weak fools that are subservient to their wives and girlfriends? I don't know. However, I do know that several of my friends have house husbands with formerly successful management and upper management level careers, who, after they lost their jobs, were somehow unable to pick themselves up and even make the effort to find another job, start a business, or do something productive. Personally, most of us don't want someone we can walk all over. How boring!

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 06:35 | 2784673 Acet
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Well, society has been teaching the average male to be a wimp.

If you look around at male stereotypes, all you have is the violent man and the spinless wimp. Because of these, the rugged, assertive, brave, manly man is often assumed by women to be violent. Unsurprisingly, men are a lot more rough-n-tumble and prone to macho behaviours when women are not around than when they are.

It's even worse for highly educated males which have no inspirational examples of modern men who are cultured, inteligent, manly and yet not prone to solve problems with violence.



Wed, 09/12/2012 - 06:55 | 2784701 Dr. Acula
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>Well, society has been teaching the average male to be a wimp.

True. I heard of a guy who was accused of grabbing his wife's wrist. The courts hold him in jail on $25,000 bail and pretty much disintegrate the family. While I think what he did was a crime, the monopoly statist "justice" system isn't meant to dispense justice (i.e. ensure fair compensation for the victims) but rather take over people's lives and extort money from them, even in cases where there is no victim. They also punish for things you might do, not what actually happened.


Wed, 09/12/2012 - 15:45 | 2787112 Cathartes Aura
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caaaareful Acet, your post veers dangerously close to pointing out that gender stereotypes are a culturally constructed box for both males and females.

can't be having that idea HERE.

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 15:49 | 2787139 tip e. canoe
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neo-patriarchy's a bitch ain't it?

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 15:58 | 2787182 Cathartes Aura
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Wed, 09/12/2012 - 06:57 | 2784679 Dr. Acula
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>Maybe the problem is that there are too many overgrown boys and not enough men.

I agree. I can think of at least two causes:

1. Birth control options have created lots of female sluts. These women do not worry about pregnancies.

Consequently, it is a waste of time for a male to try to "be a man" when there are so many partners freely available.

2. Also, the existence of court-mandated child support is a kind of enslavement that demeans men. This defintely makes women threatening to men. This combined with other encroaching statism (e.g. the indoctrination you mentioned) causes men to grow up without a sense of dignity or responsibility. When treated like a child, one will act like a child.


Wed, 09/12/2012 - 19:59 | 2787851 californiagirl
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Not to mention all the male sluts who seem to have most of their brains below their waistline, can't control their zippers, and act like chimps, not having evolved to become humans.

While I agree with most of your post, Nanny government tries to treat us all like children. It doesn't mean that we need to succumb.  Too bad so many do.

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 07:36 | 2784818 GCT
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Spot on California girl +1.  Men need to reclaim their balls off the mantle.  Women do not intimidate me.  They have expectations and those expectations have not really changed.  The men have changed.  I laugh and I am sad at the same time how men are portrayed in the media.  Get out of trying to be a woman for a minute and life will be good, unless you married a crazy feminist.

Remember guys M.A.L.E. Men against lifetime entertainment.  Let the junking begin!


Wed, 09/12/2012 - 08:22 | 2784999 rustymason
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"Overgrown boys are threatened by women with brains." Although this is just a feminist theory, as said feminists haven't got any brains to be frightened by. They got a bad attitude and plenty of cheek, though, and big daddy government to back up their aggressiveness, which works just as well these days

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 20:05 | 2786159 californiagirl
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LOL!!! Poor baby!!! Do those feminists scare you? Don't be a stereotype. Grow a pair! Be a man!


BTW, thanks for making my point!

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 08:22 | 2785000 rustymason
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"Overgrown boys are threatened by women with brains." Although this is just a feminist theory, as said feminists haven't got any brains to be frightened by. They got a bad attitude and plenty of cheek, though, and big daddy government to back up their aggressiveness, which works just as well these days

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 16:05 | 2787210 tip e. canoe
Wed, 09/12/2012 - 20:08 | 2787861 californiagirl
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With all the crap in the water these days, I already have a whole house system, including 6-stage RO that adds back the electrolytes for the kitchen.

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 06:27 | 2784667 Dr. Acula
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> In regard to the vast majority of expanding occupations today — teaching, medical services, bureaucracy

LMAO, these are all government-funded or highly government-regulated jobs.

This article is saying that women can almost compete with men provided that the free market is prevented from operating properly.

>above all possessing the kind of 21st century work attributes — such as strong communication skills, collaborative leadership and flexibility

And notably smaller brains.

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 08:19 | 2784982 rustymason
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We're not human resources, we're not male animals -- we are men, goddammit, you feminazi bitches!

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 15:47 | 2787124 Cathartes Aura
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hahahh, prove it.

Do NOT follow this link or you will be banned from the site!