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Guest Post: Doug Casey On The Good, The Bad, And The Ugly Of Today's Journalism

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Submitted by Doug Casey of Casey Research,

Louis: Hola Doug. What's on your mind this week?


Doug: The color yellow. As in "yellow journalism" – which seems almost the only kind we have these days. Of course, to be fair, inflammatory, shamelessly dishonest "man bites dog" journalism has always been the dominant kind, simply because it sells papers. But we'll see more than the usual amount in the next couple of months, simply because elections lend themselves to it; politics seems to stimulate the reptilian part of the brain, the most primitive part. Both politics and the reptilian brain relate well to the yellow press.

Anyway, like many people, I watched snippets of the Republican National Convention in Tampa. Maybe, since I'm engaging in punditry, I should have watched the whole damn thing. But I simply couldn't force myself to watch even all the parts that were broadcast, because it was just too boring and degrading. I can't imagine how the people who were there for the whole four days were able to remain awake for the whole thing. Perhaps this is proof that zombies really do exist. What kind of people could take such a charade seriously? It was all canned speeches and scripted events that were basically dishonest. Politics has always been dishonest, of course, but at least it used to be unscripted and mildly entertaining…

L: Wait a minute – what about the now much-discussed Eastwood incident? By all accounts, that was unscripted and perhaps even unwelcome among the convention organizers.

Doug: I did watch Clint and enjoyed his speech, which appeared to be unscripted. He's a skilled actor and entertainer, so I've got to believe it was really off the cuff. I've read in the papers – which means I don't really know anything except some reporter's guess – but I've read that Clint was only supposed to give a five-minute, canned speech. Romney and the convention organizers were caught off guard when Eastwood asked for a chair to be brought on stage; it was thought he wanted to use it to sit down. But he then proceeded to have a very funny conversation with an invisible Obama. One reason I liked it is that he treated Obama with the respect he deserved. It's about time people stopped treating presidents as if they were Roman emperors.

L: I've watched that segment on YouTube and noticed that he used the word "libertarian," which I doubt the RNC would have approved in advance. So I can believe that "Dirty Harry" was shooting from the hip, as it were.

Doug: I agree – I'm sure they would not have approved of that. I expect the Republicans will do everything they can to discount, denigrate, and destroy the Libertarian Party candidacy of Gary Johnson for president. They know Johnson is likely to draw more votes from them than from the Democrats. And of course, Ron Paul was made a veritable nonperson. The only mention he got at the convention didn't include any acknowledgment of some of his most important propositions, like ending the drug war, ending foreign interventions and wars, and abolishing the Fed. These people are dishonest and manipulative through and through.

The other thing Clint did, as I recall, was only to mention Romney twice, and not in way that was a particularly strong endorsement. It took courage on Clint's part in that forum.

L: I noticed that too; his focus was on the people, not the candidate. The biggest cheer he got was when he spoke of the people and said, "We own this country… politicians are employees of ours."

Doug: Yes. I'm sure that also rankled the suits running the show. But the fact that Clint's sincere, unscripted comments are so exceptional tells us a lot about the rest of the drivel at such events. It's like he came up with the idea shortly before he went on stage and was truly speaking extemporaneously. It wasn't approved by the Politburo, like absolutely everything else emanating from the convention was.

The press coverage of the incident is a good example of the sort of thing that makes me despise reporters. In a way, it's a litmus test of the psychology of the average journalist, how they reacted to that thing… It says more about them than it does about Eastwood, how they reported on it and what they said about it. So many of them focused on how he hesitated, fumbled, repeated himself, and so forth, scoffing at his remarks as being just an old man's rant. The snide comments of Michael Moore, the Evil Party's answer to Jabba the Hutt, are fairly typical.

It was clear to me that Clint spoke from the heart, mistakes and all. I believe that 300 million Americans out there are starving for straight talk from the heart of someone they like – and everyone loves Clint. My guess is that most everybody who isn't an ideologue of either the Stupid Party or the Evil Party really resonated with his sentiments. The only downside is they'll wind up helping the feckless Romney.

It was night-and-day different from the slick speeches by the horrible politicians. They all sounded like they'd rehearsed their speeches dozens of times. Every one of them sounded phony – which they are. I preferred the old days when you never knew what the outcome of the convention would be, and the speeches could actually tell you something about the men giving them – or at least have entertainment value. When did all this change? My guess is in the '50s, with broadcast TV and the invention of the teleprompter. The whole convention was a flavorless, odorless, sanitized bore – except for Clint.

L: I was struck by those criticisms of Eastwood's delivery as well. Clint Eastwood was born in 1930 – give the guy a break! These critics will be lucky to be half as eloquent when they are in their 80s. But even that's beside the point; what should matter most is what he said, not how he said it. These same media hacks would never speak so disrespectfully of a venerable statesman they agreed with.

Doug: I have nothing but contempt for these blow-dried airheads on TV news shows. They pontificate and tell you what you're supposed to think – but they're really not journalists. They just read the establishment press releases, thereby helping to prop it up. Instead of being the Fourth Estate – a private-sector watchdog and counterbalance to state power – they just make themselves lapdogs of politicians.

If you watch something like The Daily Show, Jon Stewart will often show clips of different so-called journalists in juxtaposition to each other – he did this regarding the Republican Convention – and you can see that the reporters all use the same words. It's like they are all reading the same script or keying off each other – it's a herd mentality. This is one reason print journalism has gone downhill, as well. In the era before the TV, a journalist had to witness things in person and draw an independent conclusion. It wasn't technically feasible to know what everybody else was groupthinking in real time. The noble, lone journalist in the mold of H. L. Mencken is completely gone from the scene today.

L: I know what you mean, but a TV news anchor isn't really a reporter. He or she is an attractive actor hired to read the news others research, because their faces increase ratings. Is it fair to criticize such people for not being investigative journalists?

Doug: No, I guess it's not. They are hired to look sincere and look good. I believe it's well established that people in general are prone to like and believe people they find attractive – that's the basis for hiring TV news anchors – that and having completely unremarkable, predictable, "mainstream" views. But it's still not a good thing. To have a system that relies on attractive but ignorant or misinformed people regurgitating reporting written by others is dangerous. The so-called Fourth Estate is dying.

You know, that very term – Fourth Estate – is being used more now, at the very time that the institution itself is changing its essence. The idea of a Fourth Estate arose with the Industrial Revolution and the inception of capitalism – the first three basically being the church, the "nobles," and everyone else – the 99%. The Fourth Estate has historically been a bit outside all that, but certainly outside the church and the state. Their purpose was to tell it like it is, keep things in balance, and be impartial truth-tellers. Major cities each had dozens of papers. But now the Fourth Estate has truly been captured by the ruling classes.

That's the bad news. The good news is that we have the Internet. The stuff people report there may not always be anymore accurate than the mass media, but at least it's independent – it's not a mouthpiece for the Establishment. As far as I'm concerned, the Fourth Estate has betrayed its basic raison d’être, and no longer serves much of a useful purpose.

L: Which brings us back to the people who write the stories or compose the video coverage – the kind of investigators who are supposed to make a show like 60 Minutes deliver hidden truth to a population that needs to know…

Doug: Unfortunately, they seem to be cut from pretty much the same cloth as the reporters who write for outfits like the New York Times or, God forbid, USA Today – something I feel sheepish about reading in public. They all went to the same universities, where they were taught the same ideas and values by the same teachers – who are all statists of one stripe or another. They are all so deeply inculcated in this worldview, they don't even know they are in it.

It's one reason why I found the ideas of the speakers at our recent Summit so refreshing. They see things from a perspective that's sorely lacking in politics and mainstream American reporting.

L: Which is why journalists who don't work for right-wing rags never admit that there is such a thing as "liberal media bias." Their colored glasses have been on for so long, they don't even realize they wear them.

Doug: Exactly. The 60 Minutes guys fell flat on their faces when they didn't call Ben Bernanke out for contradicting himself on their show, first saying the Fed was printing money, then saying it wasn't. If these guys are the toughest watchdogs we have, we're in big trouble. The best sources of news on TV are probably The Daily Show and The Colbert Report. As comedians, they serve the role of the court jester and can say things to the king that nobody else dares to. It's a sad testimony.

L: But there are exceptions, like John Stossel.

Doug: Of course, but again, it's the exception that tests the rule; the fact that Stossel is so extraordinary tells us a lot about what is ordinary. You can see this clearly when you get a bunch of reporters together on an impromptu talk show, like Meet the Press or whatever; what you see is a bunch of opinionated people, some somewhat to the left, some somewhat to the right of center, yelling at each other.

It's never an intelligent discussion of ideas and principles at all. For instance, there's never a discussion of whether Social Security, Medicare, or Medicaid are correct areas for government involvement – that's completely accepted and a given. Even with Obamacare or Romneycare the discussion is only one of whether it's affordable or efficient, not whether it's ethically defensible. It's just glib one-liners and catch phrases.

L: Whoever has the best sound bite wins.

Doug: Just so. Political talk shows are frustrating and embarrassing to watch. I just want to wash my hands of the whole mess, but I guess I'll have to watch at least a little of the Democrat's Convention, just to see what kind of charade they put on. I expect it will be more enthusiastic than that of the Republicans, because at least the Democrats actually have some principles... even if they're completely bent, destructive, and statist principles. It should be some show, maybe like the Nuremburg rally.

L: Morbid curiosity?

Doug: Yes, and very unappealing. It's literally like watching something die. The capacity of the masses to sit on their sofas and watch endless hours of canned drivel on TV is increasingly convincing me that libertarians and other free-thinkers are actually genetic mutants. We can mate with Boobus americanus intellectually about as well as a human can mate physically with a chimpanzee.

L: Mutants… or at least an uncommon personality type.

Doug: Either way, we are so few – it's hard to have any hope of reason ever winning the day. My friend Jeff Berwick was caught in a spate of optimism the other day, which started with him guessing that maybe 10,000 new people become libertarians every day – a great-sounding number. Then he took out his calculator and realized that even if the population of earth was stable that, even at that rate, it would take something like 2,000 years before everyone stopped thinking like a criminal.

Communication is critical, of course. But while that's become easier, in some ways, like the Internet, it may be increasingly difficult in others. The masses are addled by the mind-numbing rays from their TVs, and there are scores of millions more addled by psychiatric drugs, and hundreds of millions more by generations of government miseducation.

On the bright side – you know I like to always look on the bright side – the Internet could be bigger than all those things. The big media corporations no longer have a stranglehold on the news. These days, anyone with a phone has audio- and video-recording capability and can be a reporter. With the Internet, any of these people can get word of what they see out to the entire world.

L: A new, 21st century version of the Fourth Estate?

Doug: Yes; the truth is out there. But as with everything else, it's subject to Pareto's Law. So, 80% of what's out there is crap, and 80% of what's left is merely okay. But that remaining 4% of quality, uncensored, free information flow is extremely valuable. More good news: because people increasingly realize that 80% of everything is crap, they're becoming evermore discriminating – which is a very good thing. People used to slavishly believe everything in the newspapers just because it was written; now they're necessarily more skeptical, which means they're forced to be more thoughtful.

But as great as this is, it's like Jesus of Nazareth said: "He who has ears, let him hear." For the distributed and free reporting we now have via the Internet to do much good, people need to question what they're told and look for the truth – that's not going to happen if they only use the 'Net for social media and porn. After generations of government schooling, where critical thinking is the last thing they want to teach, people willing to do this are few and far between.

L: You're an atheist quoting the Bible?

Doug: Why not? I can read. Everyone should read the Bible, along with Richard Dawkins, of course.

L: Indeed. Investment implications?

Doug: Nothing I haven't said before, but that doesn't make it any less true. The terminal corruption of the major news corporations and the lack of interest in seeking the truth among the general population augurs very poorly for the prospects of the US and the current world order. This creates speculative opportunities, which we work hard on uncovering in our publications, emails, and events, but prospects for mainstream investments are not good. Western civilization is truly in decline and far down the slippery slope.

L: You wrote an article some years ago on how to profit from the coming collapse of Western civilization…

Doug: Yes – which brings me back to the color yellow, but in a positive context this time: the yellow metal. Now the collapse is beginning, my advice is the same: accumulate gold – not as an investment, but for safety. For profit, speculate on the various bubbles and other trends government interventions in response to the unfolding crisis bring about. Rational investment is not an option in this context (remembering that investment is deploying capital to create more capital). Hopefully, investment will again be a viable option after the ongoing crisis bottoms; it depends in good degree how most people view the role of government. We all have to be speculators now, if we want to make money, and we have to be "gold bugs" if we want to come through the storm with minimal loss of wealth.


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Thu, 09/13/2012 - 20:44 | 2792909 roadsnbridges
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When these diks figure out the schedule of the moron-in-chief.


Thu, 09/13/2012 - 20:56 | 2792938 Michael
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R&B 7 weeks on ZH and trying to front run me. Good luck.

The Bill O'Reilly's and David Gergen's of the Bohemian Club world are in a complete state of panic and melt down. I just love watching them going off the rails having a hissy fit. It's going to be very hard for them to keep the 9/11 bodies buried next year.

Alex Jones asks David Gergen about Bohemian Grove Rituals

Dark Secrets inside Bohemian Grove ( Alex Jones )

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 20:57 | 2792950 roadsnbridges
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Don't even go there with that moron Leprechaun...

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 21:07 | 2792983 Michael
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Well then ZH's moniker "Fight Club" wouldn't apply then, would it?

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 21:15 | 2793003 GetZeeGold
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Attention : Journalism has now been replaced by cheerleading.....that is all.


Thu, 09/13/2012 - 21:19 | 2793013 Michael
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There should be a 24 hour TV news Channel run by Drudge, and stories to be run, voted on by his fans.

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 21:23 | 2793031 GetZeeGold
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That gay guy not only has one of the top websites in the world...he also loves Chick-Fil-A.


Now that cat has some confidence!


Thu, 09/13/2012 - 21:31 | 2793047 Michael
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I know. It's great isn't it?

I bet Drudge would get more ratings then all the other news outlets combined.

We're talking about big advertising dollars here.

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 21:34 | 2793061 Cheesy Bastard
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R&B used to be known as Mynhair, was here way before you, and will intellectually kick your Obama loving ass.

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 21:39 | 2793071 Michael
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Love is too strong a word for our relationship. But I do love him for the Creator.

From Drudge;

Photos: TSA Checkpoint At Mitt Romney Political Event

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 21:46 | 2793104 Cheesy Bastard
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This should be an obvious clue that any collapse under your big O will lead to more and more of this kind of tyranny.  Only a shill or a moron would vote for Obama, as you say you will, and expect more freedom as a result.

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 21:53 | 2793130 Michael
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Democrats are mathematically challenged, and need to re-learn the math lessons. It's 100% mathematically guaranteed. Their a bit too artsy.

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 22:08 | 2793174 Cheesy Bastard
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The math is guaranteed.  The aftermath is not.  You know this.

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 22:27 | 2793235 Michael
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The Federal Government will run out of money to carry out their plans and the American people have more guns everywhere then they do.


Here's a good conversation I had with someone else yesterday.


Him; Weren't they CIA bases?...

Hence the term el-CIA-duh!


Me: Yes, they spread the confusion, but really, it's just, "The Base". English, please?

All Your Base Are Belong To Us

Sometimes I wish I were Arab so every time I heard the words "Al Qaeda" I could;

But then again, I still do.


Him: Spreading confusion is all part of the game isn’t it?

As heirs to and essentially being re-animated by the ex-Nazi Gestapo, the CIA continued the tradition of being the secret police for the Globalist Bankster patrons that gave rise to Hitler but survived...we’ll call them the Glazis...and of course they can’t go anywhere these days without the support of their paramilitary brown shirt shock troops... really the the ground and base of such an organization...let’s call them el Qaeda...

The National Security Act of 1947 was an act of security for what nation? Or to secure which nation?

Know your base.


Me: So we've pretty much been taken over by a military strategy since then?

The National Security Act of 1947


Him: There is, according to an understanding of The National Security Act, a Secret Government.

By the facts, that part is admitted.  Makes you wonder, What are the parts not freely admitted?...


Me: Congratulations.

I think we've figured out the most secret of secret societies secrets together on this one.

Good job.

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 22:38 | 2793265 Cheesy Bastard
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When they run out of money, will we wind up like all the freedom loving people did in Nazi Germany or Zimbabwe?  Argentina, actually, is the model of your boss.  Tell me, do they pay well at the ministry of propaganda?

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 22:45 | 2793297 Michael
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False assumption.

There are too many Ron Paul supporters now.

Get over it.


Thu, 09/13/2012 - 22:48 | 2793305 Cheesy Bastard
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Ron Paul supporters are too smart to vote for Obama.  It's over.

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 22:50 | 2793316 Michael
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Or Mitt Romney.

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 22:56 | 2793324 Cheesy Bastard
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+1.  Gotta give you credit there. He shouldn't have totally screwed us at the convention.

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 22:58 | 2793344 Michael
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Fri, 09/14/2012 - 01:57 | 2793623 Michael
Fri, 09/14/2012 - 02:39 | 2793656 Michael
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In Iowa, GOP elector who backed Ron Paul resigns after deciding she couldn’t vote for Romney

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 03:16 | 2793684 Michael
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Tony Blair Appointed Senior Advisor to JPMorgan Chase

Tony Blair Confronted At Leveson Inquiry

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 05:15 | 2793757 Michael
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I'll tell you something about Jewtube MSM TV news after 5:00 AM in America.

It turns into Brain Washing and Mind Control as soon as people start waking up in the morning.

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 22:52 | 2793322 ISEEIT
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Drudge is a fucking cartoon.

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 21:42 | 2793088 roadsnbridges
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Nice deflection from reality.  Quit bogarting thos shrooms.

The Choomwagon demands it.

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 22:26 | 2793238 Real Estate Geek
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The TV industry makes beaucoup bucks from political ads.

I'd be interested in knowing the aggregate income of the TV industry, and what percentage of that income is attributed to political ads, over a four-year election cycle.

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 22:47 | 2793299 Michael
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That tree that falls in the woods that nobody hears anymore?

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 20:49 | 2792918 roadsnbridges
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Costs a fortune to ship an empty chair plus teleprompters to Vegas, where you should not go.

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 21:54 | 2793124 tankster
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The empty chair was a crutch the old man needed to provide a feeble foil, just like his movies.

The speech was a load of red, stinking meat for the repubs to gorge on, along with an American Exceptionalism chaser.


Thu, 09/13/2012 - 20:50 | 2792924 Yen Cross
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" j

journalism" is/was the standard!      aN "Architect' wouldn't build a structure sideways?

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 20:53 | 2792936 roadsnbridges
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Bias is an architectural term?

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 20:55 | 2792946 Yen Cross
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 In the planning stages, ALA (congress & TOTUS).

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 20:54 | 2792941 Gully Foyle
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Yen Cross

I disagree. Journalism has always been an ideal.

The reality is Journalists and their outlets are biased just like everyone else.

Everybody is selling their individual angle.

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 20:59 | 2792956 Yen Cross
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Gully Foyle   I agree 100% with you.     Journalism should be free, and open!  (just like Z/H) ;-)


Thu, 09/13/2012 - 21:03 | 2792969 johnQpublic
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Doug: Yes, and very unappealing. It's literally like watching something die. The capacity of the masses to sit on their sofas and watch endless hours of canned drivel on TV is increasingly convincing me that libertarians and other free-thinkers are actually genetic mutants. We can mate with Boobus americanus intellectually about as well as a human can mate physically with a chimpanzee


problem with it being an ideal is the idealists cant get airtime, and the masses cant give a damn shit

neither do they have the inclination to examine reality for themselves even when it is pointed out to them

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 21:15 | 2793006 Yen Cross
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johnQpublic                           ya lost me on that "Human/Chimp" anology?




Thu, 09/13/2012 - 22:44 | 2793293 johnQpublic
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i guess i shoulda thrown quotes around it because its directly from the article

my meager commentary is below it

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 22:49 | 2793310 Yen Cross
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Second chances cost $, but I'm pretty sure you're OK :)

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 21:17 | 2793009 Michael
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There should be a 24 hour news Channel run by Drudge, and stories to be run, voted on by his fans.


Thu, 09/13/2012 - 21:51 | 2793120 Taint Boil
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You're fucking kidding right?

Drudge LOL pure extreme right propaganda – nothing more. The stories are always “legit” but the pictures and his headlines are very biased. I think Shawn Hannity almost mentions him every day …… must be “fair and balanced” ROFL

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 21:57 | 2793140 Michael
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Then why does he post things the Jertube MSM TV will never talk about like all the Federal Government tyranny stuff?

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 22:00 | 2793150 Count de Money
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I wouldn't have a problem if they were up front with their biases, but their claim that they're impartial is what really annoys the crap out of me.

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 21:35 | 2793062 wee-weed up
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Today's MSM is not about journalism. They're only about political correctness - and that will be their death.

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 20:51 | 2792931 AUD
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quality, uncensored, free information flow is extremely valuable.

Of course, quality is what determines value, not quantity. That goes for central bank obligations too.

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 20:57 | 2792951 Gully Foyle
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The only way you get quality is via quantity, like panning for Gold.

Even then one persons nugget of Gold is anothers Pyrite.

Everyone has to sift the current at their own pace seeking their own individual insights.

If you don't have quantity there is no way to have quality information. It just doesn't work that way, the more information the more verifiable it is from a wider variety of sources.

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 21:03 | 2792967 AUD
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Even then one persons nugget of Gold is anothers Pyrite.

Fuck off idiot, don't respond to my posts ever again.

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 20:53 | 2792937 buzzsaw99
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I absolutely loved Clint Eastwood until the day he went and got political. It is a dirty business and I will never look at him the same.

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 20:58 | 2792954 Gully Foyle
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Fucking eh, that run for mayor well doggie.....

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 21:03 | 2792964 buzzsaw99
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methinks he has a screw loose


edit: btw had he endorsed obama i would have been equally as offended.

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 21:04 | 2792973 Yen Cross
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 Buzz, I have met the Man. Hogs Breath in (Carmel). He( Clint Eastwood) is a complete gentleman, and every bit the person you would expect! I have reems of pictures.  


    Clint is "GOOD" shit! ;-)

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 21:33 | 2793057 buzzsaw99
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Hi Yen,

I really like many of his films. I hate to see him use up that goodwill on a disgusting presidential race such as this. No good will come of this election and I am afraid his legacy will become just another casualty.

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 21:49 | 2793114 Yen Cross
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Buzz, there is "nothing" that will divide the respect (I ) have for you! I can't wait to have a drink in a " dark OAK room" with you!

   You kick ass Buzz, and always will!

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 20:55 | 2792943 roadsnbridges
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Thread is missing something.


Morons, bitchez!

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 06:48 | 2793797 Dr. Sandi
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No, it has Morons. Thanks for filling the empty seats.

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 21:00 | 2792960 roadsnbridges
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Remember to vote Nov. 7 for that one that will administer the lead overdose.

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 21:00 | 2792961 TruthBeTold
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I love Doug Casey, but disappointed to learn he's atheist, which in my view is a religion unto itself:  Faith that there is no god; Having certainty in something uncertain..  ah, but we all are fallible.  Still love him!  Hope Ms. Argentina and her mean peeps leave him be.

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 21:04 | 2792971 roadsnbridges
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As a life-long atheist meeself, I don't care what you believe as long as it isn't that phoney Islam, which is a system, not a religion.

I so would like to tar-and-feather these Libs against symbols of our country.

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 22:21 | 2793170 earleflorida
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as are the mormon's a parochial cult of chimerical ideologues!

... and what is atheism but an extension of science that's hell bent on world desruction?

... your faith in yourself is all but a heuristic anomaly-- vain in appearance and hollow of substance, lapping in solipsism,...   


Thu, 09/13/2012 - 22:49 | 2793308 johnQpublic
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+1 just for using solipsism in a sentence

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 04:35 | 2793741 WAMO556
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Yeah...solipsism ranks right up there with the "Aglet". For those of you who are Phineas and Ferb fans, you will know what I mean.

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 21:41 | 2793078 Oldrepublic
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Doug has a ranch near Salta in NE Argentina.

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 21:03 | 2792966 Democratic koolaid
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Journalist are tools used to validate an illusionary reality projected by the mass media. They perpetuate and dramatized political agendas by scaring the general populus with very well designed political science stradegys.

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 21:06 | 2792977 roadsnbridges
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Bernankski is a journalist?

You said 'tool'.

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 21:07 | 2792981 Democratic koolaid
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This is how they control your mind. 

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 21:06 | 2792978 Oldrepublic
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William Randolph Hearst classic yellow journalism at start of Spanish-American War in 1898

artist Frederic Remington telegraphed Hearst to tell him all was quiet in Cuba and "There will be no war." Hearst responded "Please remain. You furnish the pictures and I'll furnish the war."

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 21:12 | 2792993 Yen Cross
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William Randolph Hearst was a  "unique" person. have you ever toured Hearst Castle?  / it's ubiquitous at best!

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 21:23 | 2793028 nmewn
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Who the hell is Louis and whats he doing in GW's yellow chair? ;-)

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 21:45 | 2793096 roadsnbridges
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That's OblameO's chair.  He just pissed himself under the question of 'what was your last golf score'.

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 21:24 | 2793034 lakecity55
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You need someone "out there" like AJ, or nothing will get uncovered by others.

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 21:36 | 2793035 Oldrepublic
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Edward Behr,the late British war correspondent shouted out "Any Nuns here been raped and speak English?" to hundreds of just rescued European survivors of a siege at Stanleyville in eastern Congo in November 1964 as they disembarked from US Air Force C-130s landing.


Fri, 09/14/2012 - 06:50 | 2793801 Dr. Sandi
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That's real classy!

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 21:30 | 2793050 Yen Cross
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 I really feel bad for commenting on this thread. I really enjoy all of the posters comments. I opened a can of "divisive" worms, when we should be using our collective "minds" , to "propagate" change and transparancy.

  The conversation we are having currently exemplifies, "more than ever" how much honesty is valued!  Tyler, you are one of the last "bastians" of integrity!

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 00:31 | 2793532 palmereldritch
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I offer that correction from a serial typoist...

(you got a greenie from me btw)

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 21:30 | 2793052 palmereldritch
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God forbid if we lose the Internet.  We will be SOOOOOO fucked!

Preserve and protect!!!

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 22:02 | 2793161 monad
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Actually, "they"'ll be fucked, because then they can't keep tabs on us all.

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 22:51 | 2793311 palmereldritch
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In the big picture it's not so much about herd management as it is herd inventory.

After a population reduction of 93% it will be the least of their concerns...

Preserve, protect and prosecute...or lose it all.

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 23:40 | 2793442 monad
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Its art, propaganda. This statue is too small and insignificant to be worth anything after a massive catatrophe. Look at the Great Pyramid. What do you think that is, a monument to a despot? Whoever built that 11000yo library did it right; they were thinking on the right scale.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 00:19 | 2793505 palmereldritch
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Sure. But propaganda from whom? The pyramids, as much as they were deity worship, were self serving as the Pharaohs were that one level below the Gods. They died. They left their mark and all were in awe.  In the Georgia Guidestone case, the real dying has no where near started....

Is it propaganda from a highly motivated, cultish and well funded cult?...Hold on, this could cover A LOT of territory, we should be more specific.....

The Georgia Guidestones were exceptionally rational, calculated, well funded and hermetic.

An excerpt from the Wired link:

But many who read what was written on the stones were unsettled. Guide number one was, of course, the real stopper: maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature. There were already 4.5 billion people on the planet, meaning eight out of nine had to go (today it would be closer to 12 out of 13). This instruction was echoed and expanded by tenet number two: guide reproduction wisely—improving fitness and diversity. It didn't take a great deal of imagination to draw an analogy to the practices of, among others, the Nazis. Guide number three instructed readers to unite humanity with a living new language. This sent a shiver up the spine of local ministers who knew that the Book of Revelations warned of a common tongue and a one-world government as the accomplishments of the Antichrist. Guide number four—rule passion—faith—tradition—and all things with tempered reason—was similarly threatening to Christians committed to the primacy of faith over all.

Deeds speak....Which should make you wonder...If they are that dedicated, secretive and well funded for historical preservation...What are the potentials of possible deeds that do await?

To cite the project manager:

Fendley is now deceased, but shortly after the Guidestones went up, an Atlanta television reporter asked what he was thinking when he first heard Christian's plan. "I was thinking, 'I got a nut in here now. How am I going get him out?'"

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 16:42 | 2796932 monad
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All propaganda is directly for the gullible, and indirectly to obfuscate the facts for the not so gullible.

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 21:36 | 2793059 Seasmoke
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Tyler Durden = 4%

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 21:37 | 2793068 Seasmoke
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Aaron Fucking Sorkin = yellow journalist

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 21:45 | 2793095 Yen Cross
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 TOTUS is a FUCKING pussy! This Red Herring- M/E thing is going to spiral out of control! That worthless pussy "Romney is on the bench as usual"

               Romney has a "ROYAL" opportunity to be a leader, and he caves into the asshole of "Allah"? Fucking pussy!

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 22:33 | 2793249 newengland
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Tell 'em, good and true. This snivelling bowing down to Islamists is like a turkey voting for Christmas; a death wish. The so called Arab Spring is a launch pad for Islamists.

Corporatists with their paid politicians invite doom, although they mistakenly thought they would reap riches.

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 22:45 | 2793295 Yen Cross
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newengland       You are light years ahead of "myself"   I'm just calling a 'SPADE'.

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 22:01 | 2793154 monad
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This dialogue bagan well, then after framing Clint Eastwood in the proper light, descended into a critique of different grades of propaganda. Its all propaganda, same as shit. You don't eat some kinds of shit and not eat other kinds, you're either a dumb fuck or you're not.

What I liked about Clint Eastwood's chair is that we all know Obama did watch this, and was bent by it enough to have his PR douchebags to immediately twitter a lame response to it.


Thu, 09/13/2012 - 22:04 | 2793165 Yen Cross
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People are "DEAD" you fucking idiot! Crawl out of your hole, in your mammas basement "fucktard"

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 22:08 | 2793176 monad
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Noone here gets out alive. Whats your point? You want justice? So does Clint Eastwood. Go get it.

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 22:22 | 2793217 Yen Cross
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 You "exemplify", everything that is wrong in the United States.  Spineless, run around the "schrub" answers.

     MONAD, I'll do you the dignity, of telling you what you already "know"!

 You are a "supplanted" Garden Knome, with a zipper as a light switch! I plagerized another Z/H poster, on the zipper part!

   Get a job! Or spend some time in "inner city" soup kitchens! Then you will understand what being "face down" in the gutter is!


     The next time you want an answer/ ask the question you pussy!

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 22:24 | 2793232 Democratic koolaid
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He was educated by CNN and his local 6pm news so give him a Break.

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 22:26 | 2793239 monad
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Wherever you go, there you'll be. So its not going to get any better. Suicide is always an option.

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 22:30 | 2793247 Yen Cross
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little girl

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 22:30 | 2793250 monad
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Pathetic whiner.

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 22:36 | 2793258 Yen Cross
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 Rational Thinker ( !phone.SNAP card person?) Ya Trying to pump and dump 'Faceplant shares'?

  red arrows are rare, you earned a couple!

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 22:16 | 2793202 Democratic koolaid
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 Yen cross Romeny isnt "caving" to no turban head. he want to be a War hawk and insight some mormon holy war, aka American Imperial capitalist war so we can have allah in a burkini and shooting a machine gun as a human right.

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 22:23 | 2793205 essence
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Yep, what's not to like about Doug Casey? 
........ allow me to inform you.

Twice in the last year or two he has been interviewed on the Daily Bell.
Excellent  interviews, and then Anthony Wile gets to THE QUESTION that he usually throws out at some point.
Para-phasing here--- "Is there an element behind this crisis and does it orginiate with the dynastic families behind the big, international anglo/american banks & Central Banks.

Big Doug completely ducks the question.

Either he is clueless, or doesn't wish to alienate prospective mainstream investors, or wishes to stave off picking a fight with the biggest,baddest PowersThatBe. Any of these knocks him down several notches in my book.

Oh, same for PM manipulation.  His "friend" James Turk graciously, (yet completely) took his "I see no collusion" stance apart in a reply article this past year. It made Doug seem like an Alzheimer affected oldster in his refusal to acknowledge CBs/ES Fund/Bullion Banks   interference with the free market.

So, Doug Casey,  yea, great guy,  ... except for a few giant, glaring holes in his schpeel. And make no mistake, I truly admire him on so many points, .. very knowledgeable,worldly guy. But then, when it gets to the root issues... he wimps out. Kinda like Bill Clinton asking "it depends on the meaning of IS"



Thu, 09/13/2012 - 22:24 | 2793231 newengland
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All mainstream media has become yellow journalism, in so far as it is propaganda for the State, the whip hand of politicians and central banksters whose favored corporates serve them and own the mainstream media.

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 22:38 | 2793268 Democratic koolaid
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great book on how things are created then given to a few that re-create from contemporarys then the broken telephone makes it self perpetuating.

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 23:17 | 2793386 Radical Marijuana
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"Western civilization is truly in decline and far down the slippery slope."

NO DOUBT! The only doubts are about how fast we decline down that well-greased slippery slope ... and to what degree genocidal world war and democidal martial law are the pit we are sliding into at an accelerating rate.

How does a system of global electronic fiat money frauds, backed by atomic bombs, decline and fall ??? How does something amplified quadrillions of times finally collapse into its own mad chaos ???



Thu, 09/13/2012 - 23:24 | 2793403 Democratic koolaid
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1 we let to many ethnics into the country

There are some good example to compare from Mary jane. Its called Yugoslavia and Tito.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 00:56 | 2793565 Sandmann
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I thought people attended Conventions for the sex

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 02:40 | 2793659 q99x2
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In my speech class book most of the speakers noted are of the elite sociopathic morally depraved compulsive lier type. But what is interesting is that the teacher would like to hear speeches about the FED, DHS, inflation and so on. So here again is another teacher bringing out an awareness about the take over of the Federal Government by the banksters. Anyhow that is what the younger students in Southern California colleges are learning about.

The only way I see this playing out to the benefit of the elites is if they can hold things above water through the 2016 elections or begin their physical terrorist military attack against the US in one final endgame run.

Bernanke announced his financial soft-kill attack today. The physical attack may come soon.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 03:06 | 2793674 AnAnonymous
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The free press, as many other institutions in 'american' societies, is an 'american' middle class institution.

The free press, that's 'american' middle class talking to 'american' middle class. 'American' middle class writing for 'american' middle class.

Therefore, it reflects 'american' middle class biased point of view.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 04:16 | 2793730 WAMO556
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What??? That made not one lick of sense. You should try plain English, instead of trying to be a smart guy. Just saying.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 05:36 | 2793770 AnAnonymous
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Or maybe start to brush up language command.

word verb word is very basic language.

For 'americans', the group is all. One end result is that the language skills are strained to the point that 'americans' struggle to understand any other forms of language than the one practised by their own group.

US citizenism at work.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 06:56 | 2793811 Dr. Sandi
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I have a copy of the program that runs you on my old Pentium.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 06:51 | 2793776 Element
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Well let's put something a bit challenging to the MSM Doug:



I was watching this video/audio recently of the first aircraft to hit the WTC and was puzzled by the first explosion sound hear on this recording, because it's not of the jet hitting the building yet. 

Even so, there is a loud deep but muffled explosion on the recording a couple of seconds BEFORE you hear the plane hitting the top of the building.

BUT, the first sound is so energetic that it actually made the video recorder, that's resting on the ground, to flicker momentarily. 

So why is this explosion there, what is it, and why did it make the video flicker, and yet the jet impact itself did not make the video flicker at all?  How did this happen?  How can you make sense of what's on this video? 

So I momentarily think; is it possible the jet broke the sound-barrier just before hitting the North Tower?  No, that isn't it, it is moving much too slow to be a super-sonic boom. 

So where did this powerful initial boom come from if it did not come from a Jet that has not hit the building yet?  It made no sense  But the logical answer is right there, if that sound came from the basement level of WTC2, at or just before the jet made it's impact.  So that would perhaps explain the muffled loud boom.

But why did the camera flicker for the first boom, but when the jet hit the tower the sound is loud and not muffled, and yet the camera doesn't flicker but stayed rock-solid.

What?!!  How can that be?

BUT, consider if a contained explosion in the lower levels of the WTC2 building's structure produced a strong seismic shock-coupling with the surrounding soil and rock?  In other words; there would be a sharp shockwave radiating outwards, and as an acoustic ground-wave movement.  Most people don't know this, but a seismic wave is actually a long-wavelength true acoustic waveform, but it's a sound-wave that's travelling within the molecular fabric of rock and soil.  And this is why you hear a muffled but loud rumbling during an earthquake.  The earthquakes are actually powerful sound-waves that propagate via distorting the fabric of the rock, within its sound waveform.

The thing is though; a seismic sound wave in the medium of the earth's rock, propagates it's waves much faster than sound does through air.

So you will both hear and feel a seismic shock from a fully underground explosion source much faster and sooner than you will hear a sound from the same location, but from a jet hitting high-up on a 106 story building's wall.

You will thus hear (and feel) the underground explosion first, even if both sounds began to propagate at the very same instant, from the same building.

But only one of those sounds will be able to couple with and deliver a sharp enough physical sonic shock-wave impulse movement to a camera, sitting on the ground, to cause it to flicker momentarily ...

Now watch the broadcast video of it occuring (WNYW TV ... and notice the shadow cast by the camera, and the shadows near to it show that no one 'bumped' the camera, and yet something did make the noise and did make the camera flicker ... and keep in mind, this is a broadcast quality camera, not some cheap rubbish that tends to flicker easily):
What that recording and the flickering implies is that this is more evidence that there were bombs detonating inside the WTC towers, during and also after the planes hit them, and also in the 30 seconds or so just before they both 'collapsed'.

Now have a look at this video below and notice the thick plume of curiously white smoke that is momentarily visible as the camera pans around, which suddenly started emerging from the base and lobby area of the North tower in the last few seconds before it collapsed.  And notice in particular that the firemen look up at loud series of noises above, yet even by the time the camera has panned around to look up at the building, all that's seen is the smoke from the fire still. 

Get it?

The expansive plume from a collapse process still had not emerged from the floors just below the collapse 'front', because the building's collapse still hadn't even begun, even after the camera had panned around to look up at at where these unexplained continuous series of loud noises were coming from.

The video shows that these 'pre'-sounds were not coming from an actual collapse, they came just before the collapse started.

So the logical question is, what was making these startlingly loud 'destructive' noises, that had caused all the firemen to suddenly look upward, when this video shows that the building itself still had not begun to collapse at that point, until after the camera had panned around and then re-steadied its view on the second plane's impact zone?  THEN the plume of the actual collapse started to emerge--slow down the frames and have a close look, the collapse starts just after the camera stops panning.


World Trade Centre collapse very close to towers

So something was making a whole lot of very loud noises for many seconds BEFORE the collapse began to visibly occur.  And don't forget, it takes maybe a second and a half for a sound to reach the firemen from that height above them, so the loud sounds had begun maybe 2.25 seconds before the sound reached them and they had time to then react and look up at what was going on.  Well nothing happened! Until about 2 seconds after they had already looked up at where it wasn't happening, visually, but something BIG was clearly happening audibly, long before they looked up!  So clearly there were very loud noises occurring for maybe 4.5 seconds before the actual collapse plume appeared and began to emerge within that video.

Things that make you go ... hmmm.

So what was making these very loud internal 'pre'-sounds, for about 4.5 seconds prior to the collapse plume starting to emerge, when the entire building's collapse sequence into the street, took about 10 seconds from the first visible movement, it to ending up as a heap of steel debris?

When you combine that 'pre'-sound, with the probable seismic-wave shock from an explosion 'pre'-sound before the jet hit within the first video, and then corroborate it with all the first-hand eye-witness on the spot video reports of very strong explosions occurring inside the lower levels of the buildings, (as reported by people descending the stairwells and lobbies and reporting huge explosions taking place) and also the actual video footage that recorded very loud explosions occurring from these buildings ...


And combine this with the audio of demolition charges going off just before WTC2 'collapsed':


The incredible audacity, and frankly, the madness of presuming no one would notice such tell-tale sound evidence of a grand-scale demolition taking place right in front of billions of people.  Or just not caring if people actually did work it out ...



Because the Mainstream-Media would never have the spine or the nerve or the scruples to run with it.


Fri, 09/14/2012 - 06:58 | 2793815 Dr. Sandi
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Naw, all 3 WTC buildings just got tired and fell down all on their own.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 06:29 | 2793789 Heroic Couplet
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True. All Congressional Republicans should be out looing for jobs. Take the Faux News cameras, the ACORN pimp and prostitute, and film each step of the job search process. If they can't, they should be called liars, to their face, voted out of office, and kept out of office. Bush tax cuts are in place. Where are the US jobs?

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 07:00 | 2793818 Dr. Sandi
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The US jobs are all busy in China. They can't afford to come home yet.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 09:04 | 2794198 tbone654
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empty chair brilliantly describes Obama...  No matter what or who says anything else beyond that...

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 10:38 | 2794697 shovelhead
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Why I admire Hitler as a politician...

When that bastard promised hope and change...

He delivered.

I'll be content with the empty chair because it could be much worse with an effective leader.

I'm opting for moronic incompetence as a doomsday stalling technique. There is no alternative.

Either candidate will do in that regard.

My only consolation is that the bastions of big city collectivism will be the very first to feel the boot of the Imperial State.

We, in the small town flyover country, will do just fine doing what we always have done by helping ourselves and taking care of our neighbors.

The roadblocks won't be to keep us in... they'll be to keep everyone else out.

Then we''ll have to go to work to clean up the mess the city slickers have left behind everywhere else. This is where the backhoes and dozers that we have in abundance from working the land will come in handy for those mass burials.

It promises to be very bullish for chroniclers of The Greatest Depression.

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