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Guest Post: The Endless War: Saudi Arabia Goes On The Offensive Against Iran

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Submitted by Felix Imonti of,

Saudi Arabia has gone on the offensive against Iran to protect its interests.  Their involvement in Syria is the first battle in what is going to be a long bloody conflict that will know no frontiers or limits.

Ongoing Disorders in the island kingdom of Bahrain since February of 2011 have set off alarm bells in Riyadh.  The Saudis are convinced that Iran is directing the protests and fear that the problems will spill over the twenty-five kilometer long COSWAY into  oil rich Al-Qatif, where The bulk of the two million Shia in the kingdom are concentrated.  So far, the Saudis have not had to deal with demonstrations a serious as those in Bahrain, but success in the island kingdom could encourage the protestors to become more violent.

Protecting the oil is the first concern of the government.  Oil is the sole source of the national wealth and it is managed by the state owned Saudi Aramco Corporation.  The monopoly of political power by the members of the Saud family means that all of the wealth of the kingdom is their personal property.  Saudi Arabia is a company country with the twenty-eight million citizens the responsibility of the Saud Family rulers.

The customary manner of dealing with a problem by the patriarchal regime is to bury it in money.  King Abdullah announced at the height of the Arab Spring that he was increasing the national budget by 130 billion dollars to be spent over the coming five years.  Government salaries and the minimum wage were raised.  New housing and other benefits are to be provided.  At the same time, he plans to expand the security forces by sixty thousand men.

While the Saudi king seeks to sooth the unrest among the general population by adding more government benefits, he will not grant any concessions to the eight percent of the population that is Shia. He takes seriously the warning by King Abdullah of Jordan back in 2004 of the danger of a Shia Crescent that would extend from the coast of Lebanon to Afghanistan.  Hezbollah in Lebanon, Assad in Syria, and the Shia controlled government of Iraq form the links in the chain.

When the Arab Spring reached Syria, the leaders in Riyadh were given the weapon to break the chain.  Appeals from tribal leaders under attack in Syria to kinsmen in the Gulf States for assistance could not be ignored.  The various blinks between the Gulf States in several Syrian tribes means that Saudi Arabia and its close ally Qatar have connections that include at least three million people out of the Syrian populations of twenty-three million.  To show how deep the bonds go, the leader of the Nijris Tribe in Syria is married to a woman from the Saud Family.

It is no wonder that Saudi Foreign Minister Prince Saud al-Faisal said in February that arming the Syrian rebels was an “excellent idea."  He was supported by Qatari Prime Minister Hamad bin Jassim al-Thani who said, "We should do whatever necessary to help [the Syrian opposition], including giving them weapons to defend themselves."  The intervention has the nature of a family and tribal issue that the prominent Saudi cleric Aidh al-Qarni has turned into a Sunni-Shia War by promoting Assad’s death.

The Saudis and their Qatar and United Arab Emirate allies have pledged one hundred million dollars to pay wages to the fighters.  Many of the officers of the Free Syrian Army are from tribes connected to the Gulf.  In effect, the payment of wages is paying members of associated tribes.

Here, the United States is not a welcomed partner, except as a supplier of arms.  Saudi Arabia sees the role of the United States limited to being a wall of steel to protect the oil wealth of the Kingdom and the Gulf States from Iranian aggression. In February of 1945, President Roosevelt at a meeting in Egypt with Abdel Aziz bin Saud, the founder of modern Saudi Arabia, pledged to defend the kingdom in exchange for a steady flow of oil.

Since those long ago days when the U.S. was establishing Pax Americana, the Saudis have lost their trust in the wisdom or the reliability of American policy makers.  The Saudis urged the U.S. not to invade Iraq in 2003 only to have them ignore Saudi interests in maintaining an Iraqi buffer zone against Iran.  The Saudis had asked the U.S. not to leave a Shia dominated government in Baghdad that would threaten the Northern frontier of the Kingdom, only to have the last American soldiers depart in December 2011.  With revolution sweeping across the Middle East, Washington abandoned President Mubarak of Egypt, Saudi Arabia’s favorite non royal leader in the region.

Worried by the possibility of Iranian sponsored insurrections among Shia in the Gulf States, the Saudis are asserting their power in the region while they have the advantage.  For thirty years, they have been engaged in a proxy war with the Islamic Republic of Iran.  Syria is to be the next battlefield, but here, there is a critical difference from what were minor skirmishes in Lebanon, Yemen, and elsewhere.  The Saudis with the aid of Qatar, and the UAE is striking at the core interests of Tehran; and they have through their tribal networks the advantage over an isolated Islamic Republic.

Tribal and kinship relations are being augmented by the infusion of the Salafi vision of Islam that is growing in the Gulf States.  Money from the Gulf States has gone into the development of religious centers to spread the fundamentalist belief.  A critical part of the ideology is to be anti-Shia.

Salafism in Saudi Arabia is promulgated by the Wahhabi School of Islam.  The Wahhabi movement began in the eighteenth century and promoted a return to the fundamentalism of the early followers of the Faith.

The Sauds incorporated the religious movement into their leadership of the tribes.  When the modern state of Saudi Arabia was formed, they were granted control of the educational system and much else in the society in exchange for the endorsement of the authoritarian rule

When the Kingdom used its growing wealth in the 1970s to extend its interests far from the traditional territory in the battle against the atheistic Soviet Union, the Wahhabi clergy became missionaries in advancing their ideology through religious institutions to oppose the Soviets.  More than two hundred thousand jihadists were sent into Afghanistan to fight the Soviet forces and succeeded in driving them out.

There is no longer a Soviet Union to confront.  Today, the enemy is the Islamic Republic of Iran with what is described by the Wahhabis as a heretical form of Islam and its involvement in the Shia communities across the region.  For thirteen centuries, the Shia have been kept under control.  With the hand of Iran in the form of the Qud Force reaching into restless communities that number as many as one hundred and six million people in what is the heart of the Middle East, the Saudis see a desperate need to crush the foe before it has the means to pull down the privileged position of the Saud Family and the families of the other Gulf State rulers.

The war begins in Syria where we can expect that a successor government to Assad will be declared soon in the Saudi controlled tribal areas even before Assad is defeated.  The territory is likely to adopt the more fundamentalist principals of the Salafists as it serves as a stepping stone to Iran Itself.  It promises to be a bloody protracted war that will recognize no frontier and will know no limits by all of the participants.


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Mon, 08/27/2012 - 20:10 | 2742312 mjorden
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I like how CNBC takes out the word "bloody" in their site.

Mon, 08/27/2012 - 20:24 | 2742336 Dr. Engali
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What are you doing on that site? Don't you know that even a little bit of exposure to them will drive you insane. Now stay away from there for your own good.

By the way they left the word "bloody" in the last paragraph. I guess they didn't think their readership could make it that far.

Mon, 08/27/2012 - 20:39 | 2742376 knukles
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Now there's the de facto approval for flight path, refueling, etc., Israeli strike on Iran via Saudi....
Which already has on hand a bazillion tonnes of US equipment in storage that the Israeli and Saudi militaries could dip into and...

Ya'll get the picture.

Mon, 08/27/2012 - 22:36 | 2742608 defencev
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You are wrong. Israel will attack Syria first under the pretext of elimination of Syrian chemical weapons. They will take out Syrian air defence system and use the direct pass through Syria to attack Iran and take out their nuclear sites.

The attack in Syria (which will have at least a tacit suppot of Saudi Arabia and Turkey) does not  require the US involvement and will take place before US elections. The second phase (attack on Iran) will take place some time after elections but before Romney will take official responsibilities as POTUS. In this way, Obama will not get any

advange of successful Israeli attack , Romney presidency should not be forced to deal with the issue and Iran will not have a formal reason to attack Saudi oil fields.

Tue, 08/28/2012 - 01:39 | 2742826 bushwarcrime
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You ever wonder what those Saudi women wear under a full burka? Well boy, I don't wonder I know!  And sonny you wouldn't believe me if I told you.  Nothing gets me and me mates Cheney and Rummy hotter than a head to toe Nijab on a young thang from the gulf states.  We've got a whole harem of them stashed over at the ranch, a gift from the King himself for being such a good friend.  Y'all have a good evenin, y'hear.

Tue, 08/28/2012 - 03:50 | 2742905 legal eagle
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Pretty sure there is enough hair under there that no undergarmets are required.

Tue, 08/28/2012 - 02:34 | 2742854 Ar-Pharazôn
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that's one of the option. that will be for sure easier to pass over Saudi skies

Tue, 08/28/2012 - 09:12 | 2743252 N. B. Forrest
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IMHO I think that the only thing Obama has done right is to let the Syrians all fight each other.  When they are busy killing each other they aren't killing the Christians and the Jews.


I'm all for an escalation of this war.  In the 80s the Iranians and the Iraqis were too busy killing each other to do much mischief in the rest of the world.  Once that war ended, then Sadam started looking for other ways to use his military.  The Shias and the Sunnis are mortal enemies and when they are not united in killing the Christians and Jews, they are at each other’s throats.


To sum it up, never interfere with your enemy when they are in the process of destroying themselves. 

Tue, 08/28/2012 - 05:33 | 2742938 Disenchanted
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re: "The Endless War: Saudi Arabia Goes On The Offensive Against Iran"


Just another facet of Operation Dönmeh. The article above says:


Salafism in Saudi Arabia is promulgated by the Wahhabi School of Islam.  The Wahhabi movement began in the eighteenth century and promoted a return to the fundamentalism of the early followers of the Faith.


So from where did Wahhabism really originate? Could the following be true?


In his book, The Dönmeh Jews, D. Mustafa Turan writes that Wahhab’s grandfather, Tjen Sulayman, was actually Tjen Shulman, a member of the Jewish community of Basra, Iraq. The Iraqi intelligence report also states that in his book, The Dönmeh Jews and the Origin of the Saudi Wahhabis, Rifat Salim Kabar reveals that Shulman eventually settled in the Hejaz, in the village of al-Ayniyah what is now Saudi Arabia, where his grandson founded the Wahhabi sect of Islam. The Iraqi intelligence report states that Shulman had been banished from Damascus, Cairo, and Mecca for his “quackery.” In the village, Shulman sired Abdul Wahhab. Abdul Wahhab’s son, Muhammad, founded modern Wahhabism.


The Iraqi report also makes some astounding claims about the Saud family. It cites Abdul Wahhab Ibrahim al-Shammari’s book, The Wahhabi Movement: The Truth and Roots, which states that King Abdul Aziz Ibn Saud, the first Kingdom of Saudi Arabia monarch, was descended from Mordechai bin Ibrahim bin Moishe, a Jewish merchant also from Basra. In Nejd, Moishe joined the Aniza tribe and changed his name to Markhan bin Ibrahim bin Musa. Eventually, Mordechai married off his son, Jack Dan, who became Al-Qarn, to a woman from the Anzah tribe of the Nejd. From this union, the future Saud family was born.


The Iraqi intelligence document reveals that the researcher Mohammad Sakher was the subject of a Saudi contract murder hit for his examination into the Sauds’ Jewish roots. In Said Nasir’s book, The History of the Saud Family, it is maintained that in 1943, the Saudi ambassador to Egypt, Abdullah bin Ibrahim al Muffadal, paid Muhammad al Tamami to forge a family tree showing that the Sauds and Wahhabs were one family that descended directly from the Prophet Mohammed.


~Wayne Madsen(btw he is not the only source for these allegations about the Sauds and Wahhabism, just the handiest at the moment.)


I think Wahhabism was designed to roil(and split off a third faction) the Muslim world in order to divide and conquer. Makes you wonder why Christianity was/has split into so many factions and sects, doesn't it?

This Donmeh/Saud/Wahhabism/War on Iran deal stinks of Sabbatean/Frankist influence. Influence that goes 'beyond the Pale'.


see Pale of Settlement:

Tue, 08/28/2012 - 06:37 | 2742997 Disenchanted
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The Doenme(aka donmeh or doenmeh) were an underground sect of Sabbetaians, Turkish Jews who took Muslim names and outwardly behaved like Muslims but secretly believed in Sabbetai Zevi, the 17th-century false messiah, and conducted carefully guarded prayers and rituals in his name.


quote from Hillel Halkin column in The Forward January 28, 1994

archived here:


Who Were the Donmeh? (Doenmeh, Donme)

One of the best known names but least known historical figures in Jewish history is Shabbtai Zvi, the “false messiah” (1626-1687). Born in Smyrna, Turkey, of a Sephardic father and an Ashkenazi mother, he was a brilliant child and Talmudic student, and an ordained rabbi in his mid teens. He went on to study and became a master in Kabbalah and other Jewish mysticism. His oratory was captivating and he soon acquired a following. However, he exhibited odd characteristics, including periods of illumination where he was believed to be communicating with God and periods of darkness when he was wrestling with evil. Soon he began to hint that he was the Messiah. This blasphemy caused him to be expelled from a number of congregations. He took up a pilgrim’s staff and with some followers roamed the Middle East, gathering many to his messianic preaching, especially during his periods of light. In Gaza he was welcomed by Rabbi Nathan, who had for years been preaching that the arrival of the Messiah was imminent. This combination led to a great outpouring of belief in Shabbtai Zvi as the Messiah. Word spread throughout the Jewish world, from Poland, Amsterdam, Germany, London, Persia, and Turkey to Yemen. Multitudes joined his ranks – educated rabbis, illiterates, rich and poor alike were swept up in the mass hysteria. ~ Joseph Hantman


that quote from:


So apparently some of his followers were also in Iraq before moving on to Saudi Arabia and Wahhabism as pointed out in my previous post...

Tue, 08/28/2012 - 09:03 | 2743219 Schmuck Raker
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Who's to blame for splintering Judaism into three antagonist sects: Judaism, Christianity, and Islam?

A Chinese conspiracy?

Tue, 08/28/2012 - 10:58 | 2743549 Disenchanted
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Good point but Judaism itself is also split into differing factions...neutrei karta(sp?), reform, chabad lubavitchers, etc., etc..


But to answer your question, I'd bet you'd find clues if you look to Babylon(The Babylonian Exile) and also to the Gnostic's writings. Which would mean that the Khazars(Ashkenazi) converted to an already fractured and co-opted religion(Judaism).

Mon, 08/27/2012 - 20:40 | 2742377 krispkritter
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Frankly I find the whole ME 'offensive'.  It's like a bad prom date; you wined and dined them, talked them into bed with you, now the deed is done. Pull out and go home and if you find the need to 'drill' again, rub one off at home. It's safer, cheaper, and the feeling you get is about the same.  And if gas is still $4 a gallon, you feel better about filling your own tank than pumping someone else's spigot...

Mon, 08/27/2012 - 21:13 | 2742439 Michael
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When Israel uses some of its 300 nukes on Iran, Russia, China, and Pakistan will have to step in to make them stop.

Mon, 08/27/2012 - 21:36 | 2742493 Cortez the Killer
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We can use use the organic matter from the (hopefully) millions of dead arabs and persians to plug the holes left from spills in the gulf.

Is it OK to say that?

Mon, 08/27/2012 - 23:34 | 2742712 otto skorzeny
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what a dumbass statement-but most of yours are

Tue, 08/28/2012 - 00:13 | 2742757 old naughty
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Another from a dumbass: "Can't we just get by a day with no news from ME?"

Tue, 08/28/2012 - 08:48 | 2743167 goldfish1
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Saying it merely defines your level of consciousness. I feel embarrassed for you.

Mon, 08/27/2012 - 23:06 | 2742652 caconhma
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Just remember that Israel is one nuke away from being wiped permanently from the face of the Earth.

I am watching developments in Syria. It appears that Aleppo is the Syrian Stalingrad. The Syrian army learned to fight and win. Syria became a meat-grinder for CIA/Mossad/Saudi mercenaries. With the present level of fighting in Syria, NATO/Israel/Saudi will run out of mercenaries in just few more months. This will get rid of the US sponsored terrorists network in Syria, Iraq, and even Russia. Furthermore, to keep Libya, NATO and the USA will have to put their own boots on a ground there.

Assad will go. He is not his father. His political & security & military apparatus was a complete failure allowing a complete army of his enemies to invade Syria and to establish there a huge network of terrorists’ cells together with huge supplies. But now the situation has changed. Now, Syrian people are fighting and fighting hard and brave for their lives. Syrian people understood there is no need to negotiate with their enemies but instead they must ruthlessly kill them.

Syria and Assad were very lucky that their top corrupt and incompetent military and security establishment was blown away. The new Syrian military breed is becoming the best in the entire Middle East. God help Syria get rid of as many religious Muslim fanatics as possible .

One more note. In Libya, Iran supported Qaddafi enemies and NATO. In Syria, Iran is supporting the Assad government against its own Iranian religious fanatical allies.

Mon, 08/27/2012 - 23:33 | 2742709 otto skorzeny
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Syria must be doing better against the CIA and their flunkies-the MSM has been quiet about the whole "glorious rebel thing". my guess is the Russians are selling alot of weapons/ammo to Assad on credit for dibs on Meditteranean port. plus the russians keep a check on any pipelines that might be built through a pro-western Syria-threatening their energy stranglehold on Europe

Mon, 08/27/2012 - 23:49 | 2742730 Freddie
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The Syrians are good people.  They are not Arabs. Islam is largely an offshot of Arab tribalism. I hope the Syrian people kick these invading bastards out.  

Tue, 08/28/2012 - 00:56 | 2742801 Iwanttoknow
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Special ed?

Tue, 08/28/2012 - 02:35 | 2742856 Ar-Pharazôn
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and do you think Israel will start a nuclear war over that? LOL

Mon, 08/27/2012 - 23:14 | 2742665 vast-dom
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leave those motherfuckers alone. they will sell oil at MARKET prices -- oh no that's outside the edicts of CENTRAL PLANNERS like Bernanke Bummer et. al. Oh well let's kill for fiat!

Mon, 08/27/2012 - 23:36 | 2742714 otto skorzeny
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Iran-like Libya-WILL accept Benny Bucks at the point of a bayonet

Mon, 08/27/2012 - 20:25 | 2742350 Silver Bug
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The whole area has been at war for as long as anyone can remember. This is never going to change in our life time.

Mon, 08/27/2012 - 20:28 | 2742353 Overfed
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Especially with the CIA instigating trouble at every turn during the last 60 years.

Mon, 08/27/2012 - 20:37 | 2742371 saturn
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Saudis have no honor whatsoever. They are just bootlickers.

Mon, 08/27/2012 - 22:02 | 2742554 otto skorzeny
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they are fucking snakes- paying off the population with worthless dollars in order to stay in power-heyyyyyy-that sound familiar.

Mon, 08/27/2012 - 22:49 | 2742629 john39
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and wahabi islam is a perversion and a lie, like all fundamentalist religions...  pure mind control, used to twist people in support racism, war and other assorted evil...  Saudi Arabia key in exporting this fake version of islam, created with the help of western intelligence agencies...   behind fundamentalist islam and christianity... is zionism...  pure spiritual poison.

Mon, 08/27/2012 - 22:59 | 2742641 akak
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I have always hated wahabi, especially when they hide it in my sushi.  Foul stuff.

Tue, 08/28/2012 - 10:18 | 2743406 slewie the pi-rat
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hey ak_ak!

i put a little waMayo on my cucumber sandwiches yest w/ ample fresh-ground pepper & chilled celery soup

long bond:  149+

10-yr:  134-

Tue, 08/28/2012 - 02:37 | 2742857 Ar-Pharazôn
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if you still have to understand, the USA is now the bitch of the saudis.

Mon, 08/27/2012 - 20:44 | 2742388 quintago
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Saudi Arabia and Iran have been at war since the arabs decided to come over to Persia and rape the women. Frankly, this war will not end since the Arabs came over and pissed all the Persians off because they gave everybody big noses, and that's not an easy problem to fix.

Mon, 08/27/2012 - 20:59 | 2742419 cosmictrainwreck
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good thing all the boys aren't hung up on that "racist" shit, like certain other population centers.........

Mon, 08/27/2012 - 21:14 | 2742442 Michael
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Tue, 08/28/2012 - 02:25 | 2742851 RECISION
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Apparently Iran does more Rhinoplastys than anywhere else in the world.

So... they ARE working on the problem.

Tue, 08/28/2012 - 02:38 | 2742859 Ar-Pharazôn
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Teheran is also one of the world centers for sex change... strange if you think they are foundamentalist eh?

Tue, 08/28/2012 - 09:19 | 2743266 N. B. Forrest
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It's those damn genetics, they just keep popping up every generation. 

Mon, 08/27/2012 - 23:12 | 2742661 Freddie
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Finally somebody posts an article who f***king gets it!

For thirteen centuries, the Shia have been kept under control.

Sunni and Shia fighting for 1300 years.  The Shia, largely Iran, are finally on a roll.  The U.S. is controlled by the Sunni/Saudis and their shekel pals and allies.  My guess is Obama is Sunni though his Luo tribe and muslim.  His whole family have been muslim slave traders. 

Mon, 08/27/2012 - 23:42 | 2742721 prains
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i never new dick cheney was a sunni, thanks fried

Mon, 08/27/2012 - 23:55 | 2742736 Buckaroo Banzai
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The only thing Muslims hate more than infidels is each other.

Those people are so fucked in the head it truly boggles the mind.

It would be funny except those jackasses are gonna take us down with them if we aren't careful.

Tue, 08/28/2012 - 09:28 | 2743286 Max Hunter
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I'm glad dumb ass Americans like you aren't taking us down.. Ohh wait.. Nevermind.

Mon, 08/27/2012 - 20:11 | 2742314 q99x2
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Too much sun. It is bad here in Southern California as well. But once everyones hair gets black and curley look out.

Mon, 08/27/2012 - 20:15 | 2742323 max2205
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The only thing keeping the Saudi's from hearding camels again is US(A)

Mon, 08/27/2012 - 20:22 | 2742340 bob_dabolina
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Now you're catching onto the liberal schtick.

Saudi Arabia didn't heard those camels...someone else did that.

Mon, 08/27/2012 - 20:48 | 2742397 krispkritter
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Old camel joke.

Barack Obama arrived at an Iraqi military base for a one week stay. About 3 days in, the 'urges' started to kick in and he asked the Secret Service what military personnel did during their extended stays. "Well sir, they usually use the camels." So on day 5 BO can't restrain himself any longer and sneaks out to the camel corrals on the compound. He hops up on a barrel and grabs a camel and starts banging away for all he's worth. A few minutes later the SS detail tracks him down and finds him in serious relations with the camel.  The SS detail Chief says "Sir, can we give you some advice?" OB says "But you already told me the servicemen use the camels!". "Yes Sir, but they usually just ride them into town and pick up some hookers...".

Mon, 08/27/2012 - 20:57 | 2742415 Dr. Engali
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That's raccccciiiiist. It does give new meaning to the term camel jokey. Where was old Obummer giving it hell? In the camel toe?

Mon, 08/27/2012 - 21:07 | 2742434 azzhatter
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If you take a good look at that thing O' is banging at home, a camel might be considered an upgrade

Mon, 08/27/2012 - 21:45 | 2742516 akak
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And I hear most camels can provide two good humps at the same time.

Mon, 08/27/2012 - 23:29 | 2742695 TheFourthStooge-ing
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And I hear most camels can provide two good humps at the same time.

Baby got bactrian.

Tue, 08/28/2012 - 04:00 | 2742909 akak
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+ (10)1010

Mon, 08/27/2012 - 22:05 | 2742561 otto skorzeny
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I'd love to get up in that big black ass. "They say you're not a man til you've split the dark oak"-Peter Boyle in Monster's Ball

Mon, 08/27/2012 - 22:14 | 2742572 otto skorzeny
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midnight at the oasis-send your camel to bed

Mon, 08/27/2012 - 20:38 | 2742374 kaiserhoff
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That's not quite fair.  In the old days they had dates, and goats, and, and, and...

Mon, 08/27/2012 - 20:53 | 2742405 owensdrillin
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Were the goats the dates?

Mon, 08/27/2012 - 21:21 | 2742457 Chuck Walla
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Meanwhile, back at the oasis, the Arabs were eating their dates...



Tue, 08/28/2012 - 00:01 | 2742743 squexx
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Goats and camels WERE the dates and still are today! There are lots of lezbos and girly-boys here because of the total seperation of men and women. These idiots are going as far as building women only cities.

The only thing that stops this Twilight Zone country from failing is because they accidently parked their real estate above an ocean of oil. In every sense of the word, the Saudi state is completely failed and morally/socially/spiritually bankrupt.

There is a veneer of religionism here, but it is a facade that everyone lives with, but has huge implications in the lives of everyone here. They are the second richest and second fattest country in the world.

In every sense of the word, this country deserves to fall or be destroyed. Hopefully, it will be......along with one illegal state the Satanic Tribe currently infests!

Mon, 08/27/2012 - 20:17 | 2742330 magpie
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Eh, when they're done with Syria the goons will turn on KSA, Turkey and Jordan anyways before moving on Russia.

Mon, 08/27/2012 - 20:22 | 2742344 KK Tipton
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Saudis are crypto jews aren't they? So of course they would be "against" Iran.

Mon, 08/27/2012 - 20:25 | 2742349 magpie
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Against Iran of course, this was more about the blowback (though planned and rehearsed) and the ultimate goal of the exercise.

Mon, 08/27/2012 - 21:36 | 2742489 CompassionateFascist
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Actually an interesting point. Arabs and sephardic Jews are Semites. Iranians are non-Arab, core Aryans. So this burgeoning bloodbath goes way, way beyond Shia vs. Sunni. And then there's Israel and its deathgrip on America, plus Russia/China backing Iran. It really does look more and more like 1914...and just in time for the centennial. History doesn't always rhyme. Often, it repeats.  

Mon, 08/27/2012 - 23:15 | 2742667 Freddie
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The Saudis and Israel are close allies.  They do a lot of business together and own a north american country.

Mon, 08/27/2012 - 23:49 | 2742731 squexx
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There are LOTS of rumors the Royal Family is related to the jooz in some distant HIDDEN family ties. There are also lots of rumors the top Saudi's, especially the Royal Family do lots of secret banking business with the Satanic Tribe.

The game in Saudi is to get ties as high as you can up the foodchain (especially with one of the thousands of Royals), start a business/scam. Then skim as much as you can and get it out of the country.

In a country of 22 million Saudi's, with an income of $500 billion, there is over $1 trillion missing that cannot be accounted for! This country is a giant scam and payoff/bribes for the common people.

Believe it or not, the average Saudi is BY FAR even fatter, lazier, stupider and far more arrogant than Americans!

Tue, 08/28/2012 - 02:46 | 2742863 Ar-Pharazôn
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mate really..... on which planet do you live?

Tue, 08/28/2012 - 09:24 | 2743276 Red Herring
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Planet htraE? A wondrous place where things are backwards, water drains counter-clockwise, house prices only go up and double every 7 years, recessions are had only because they are needed, and the neverending supply of iron ore will guarantee neverending prosperity for all htraelings.

Tue, 08/28/2012 - 09:24 | 2743275 N. B. Forrest
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You're giving them way toooooo much credit.

Mon, 08/27/2012 - 20:21 | 2742339 Dr. Engali
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We will be better off when they run out of oil and we get our noses the hell out of that region.

Mon, 08/27/2012 - 20:27 | 2742354 KK Tipton
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"We the people" will be.


The leaders? Not so much. They need the easy oil money!

Tue, 08/28/2012 - 00:11 | 2742756 Missiondweller
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We'd be better off if we just drilled our own damn oil. There's craploads off CA , FL & in AK

Mon, 08/27/2012 - 20:35 | 2742366 Gashole
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guess this may interfere with their chances for a seat on the human rights council?

Where are all the human rights activists?  Oh yeah, they are in Israel waiting for a photo op.

If they went a little bit north they would get molten glass poured in their rectum.

Mon, 08/27/2012 - 23:22 | 2742676 otto skorzeny
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what's with your anal fixation? don't forget Obummer has the Mack Daddy of "Human Right's Prizes"-the Nobel P.P.-so who gives a shit if they get their seat on the UN HRC or  at the counter at the Waffle House?

Mon, 08/27/2012 - 20:46 | 2742389 Ness.
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SPR .. FED .. China ..  Syria .. Election...


As my gramp's would say..  "Hold on to your hats boys!"


Mon, 08/27/2012 - 20:47 | 2742393 What_Me_Worry
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Jews and muslims against zoroastrianism, again.  Persia is looking to tie this thing up.  Maybe we can get the 10th crusade in the aftermath.  This is also the Scientologist's chance to show they can be a major player in the holy wars.  They must have some sea power, by now.

Tue, 08/28/2012 - 02:48 | 2742864 Ar-Pharazôn
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LOL............. what a pointless comment

Mon, 08/27/2012 - 20:52 | 2742395 Overfed
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The propaganda machine is running full-tilt all over the interwebs.. Gobs of talk about Iran stirring up trouble agains the poor, innocent Saudis via a proxy war in Syria. You know, the one our CIA actually started. Plenty of gov't shills stirring the pots in the comments sections about the dangers posed by Iran.

War is coming, and it's gonna be a doozy.

A little research comes up with only three countries in the world without Rothschild-owned central banks: Iran, Cuba, N. Korea. Funny, that.

Mon, 08/27/2012 - 22:15 | 2742566 otto skorzeny
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my new fave quote -Jay Leno on The Tonight Show when Iran came up-"They're our enemies"- so the dumbasses on Jay Walking know who they'll be shooting at when they are drafted

Mon, 08/27/2012 - 22:31 | 2742600 NotApplicable
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"No Persian ever called me nigger."

Tue, 08/28/2012 - 00:20 | 2742767 MisterMousePotato
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Tue, 08/28/2012 - 00:33 | 2742784 New_Meat
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that applies

Mon, 08/27/2012 - 23:14 | 2742662 delacroix
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venezuela, not rothschild controlled, yet

Mon, 08/27/2012 - 20:55 | 2742411 bankonzhongguo
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This is the crypto-war everyone wants - a Shia-Sunni conflict.

Anyway you slice it, even if you drop nukes across every population center in Iran, the Persians are the regional King Kong.  And they are not getting back in their cage.

The Persian Bomb is now firmly a project of national pride, not the far-out muddlings of the mullah/ruhani-class.

The time bomb is Egypt and how/if the Brotherhood of today is going to be as compliant as their daddy's.

If the Brotherhood can put 10 million fighters into the Sinai, then all the Israeli air dominance is not going to stop a zombocalypse.  Then again, Eygptians are known as some of the dumbest people in the region.

US arms sales up 60% YOY.

Mon, 08/27/2012 - 23:24 | 2742685 otto skorzeny
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ruger has backorders for 1.5 million weapons

Mon, 08/27/2012 - 23:42 | 2742722 JR
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The Persians are the regional King Kong? And they are not getting back in their cage?

It is very wise to take the media’s poison regarding the hatred of others with a grain of salt, that is, with a counteracting antidote of truth. It would then not be so surprising that that the vast majority of Iranian Jews are happy in their Iranian homeland.

In August of 2007 published an article headlined: Iranian Jews blast offer of cash for immigrating to Israel…

From the video of this story that is dedicated to Morris Motamed, Jewish Member of Iranian Parliament, and to “hundreds of patriotic Iranian Jews who continue to live in their ancient motherland nation of Iran and add to its rich culture and civilization” comes this statement:

Iranian Jews to Israel: Our National Identity Is Not for Sale:

“Sorry Israel. Iranian Jews can’t help you with that. They love their motherland nation of Iran and believe your offer of $10,000 per person constitutes bribery and outmost disrespect to them. Iranian Jews’ honor and patriotism is NOT for sale.”

Here are the words delivered by Rep. Motamed of the Iranian Parliament:

“The identity of Iranian Jews is not tradable for any amount of money.

“Jewish Iranian identity is not a commodity that passes from the hands of one merchant to another in return for money.

“Iranian Jews are among the most ancient Iranians. Iran’s Jews love their Iranian identity and their culture, so threats and this immature political enticement will not achieve their aim of wiping out the identity of Iranian Jews.”

Why was Israel offering money to Iranians to leave Iran? Because the “Biggest Emerging Threat to Israel Is Negative Populations Growth…

In 2007 (when this video was made), more citizens left Israel than came in (Source CIA Handbood – 2007).”

Mon, 08/27/2012 - 21:04 | 2742428 A Lunatic
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This is mostly a tribal, religious, and cultural affair.......and one we should keep our noses out of.

Mon, 08/27/2012 - 21:43 | 2742509 CompassionateFascist
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All of our noses belong to Israel.

Tue, 08/28/2012 - 01:24 | 2742816's picture

You didn't pick that nose. Somebody else did that.

Mon, 08/27/2012 - 21:05 | 2742431 Argos
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Anyone hear anything about the missing Bandar Bush?

Mon, 08/27/2012 - 21:37 | 2742494 earnyermoney
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This the guy that was supposedly killed in a strike by Syria in retalliation for the bombing in Damascuss that killed 4 high ranking member of Assad's government?

Mon, 08/27/2012 - 21:24 | 2742461 americanspirit
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One can only profoundly hope that they turn each other's country into a sheet of solid black glass

Tue, 08/28/2012 - 09:09 | 2743241 goldfish1
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is that what one can only do?

wow. the ignorance and level of intelligence in this comment astounds me. how did you find this site and why are you here?

Mon, 08/27/2012 - 21:29 | 2742463 walcott
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"I had to cancel the fucking contract." 

The perfect scenario back in the 80's Iraq vs. Iran. Redux.


Scarface - You Fucking Little Monkey


Mon, 08/27/2012 - 21:35 | 2742485 earnyermoney
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Without a doubt, SA is the largest sponsor of state terrorism in the world. Of course we look the other way but who cares as long as the bad Muslims, Shia, are being killed in proxy wars across the ME.

Mon, 08/27/2012 - 23:01 | 2742646 sumo
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The WH even looked the other way when Saudi nationals flew those planes into the twin towers. The WH looked the other way when US intelligence reports warned such an attack was likely. Operation Northwoods 2.0.

Mon, 08/27/2012 - 23:24 | 2742686 TheObsoleteMan
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The Saudis are far down the list as being the largest sponsors of state terrorism. Israel is No.#1 hands down, with the USA not far behind.

Mon, 08/27/2012 - 21:44 | 2742515 CompassionateFascist
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Ah, no. The largest State Terrorist in the world is Isramerica.

Mon, 08/27/2012 - 22:20 | 2742588 loveyajimbo
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Great... either the Whabbis or Iran shites... once Israel goes nuclear on Iran... we may as well blast them off the face of the earth... and if a few go "crazy Ivan" and land on the house of Saud... and on Syria... well... sincere apologies will be issued...  By the way, is Obama Shia or Sunni?

Mon, 08/27/2012 - 23:21 | 2742674 TheObsoleteMan
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Obama, or whatever his REAL name is, is not a Muslim. The only god he believes in is himself. No muslim would allow abortion, promote homosexual marriages, in military service, or in their administration. He really has contempt for people of any faith. He refers to them as "bitter clingers".

Tue, 08/28/2012 - 03:00 | 2742872 Ar-Pharazôn
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They just have one God, MONEY.

Tue, 08/28/2012 - 03:04 | 2742873 AnAnonymous
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Obama is your typical US citizen president.

Tue, 08/28/2012 - 03:44 | 2742903 akak
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AnAnnoyingMouse is your typical Chinese Citizenism online troll.

Tue, 08/28/2012 - 05:01 | 2742922 CompassionateFascist
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Somewhere in Peking. Anonylouse gulps last puppydog nugget. Belches loudly. Turns to computer...

Tue, 08/28/2012 - 19:13 | 2744973 slewie the pi-rat
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they're not as crazy as you, you sick puke

Mon, 08/27/2012 - 22:22 | 2742590 otto skorzeny
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I really believe that when "The Decline and Fall of the American Empire" is written in a thousand years our entanglement and overreach in the ME will constitute a major part of the book

Mon, 08/27/2012 - 22:33 | 2742604 gnomon
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If jew baiting were an olympic sport, zerohedge would be wearing the gold medal square in the middle of its brown shirt.  There is a critical mass of Obummer has-beens/Ron Paul rejects on this site who just like the Nazis source ALL of the ills of the world to the jews.  NO EXAGGERATION.

Mon, 08/27/2012 - 23:18 | 2742669 otto skorzeny
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follow the $. and if you care to tell me why we are so intertwined with Israel's fortunes-feel free. why not with Albania or Denmark? it's always about the Jews. also-while you scrimp and save to put gas in your car know that the Jews-with 1.7% of US population-control about half of the wealth

Mon, 08/27/2012 - 23:25 | 2742689 BigDuke6
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Yeah man

its a shock when you educate yourself and realise that jimmy swaggert was lying to you when he said they were the chosen people and they could fuck you over like the goyim you are.

Wake up.

Tue, 08/28/2012 - 11:50 | 2743737 slewie the pi-rat
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dammit 6!

swaggart is related to jerryLeeLewis!

and he's a heluva musician too!

his theology is "normal" for the bible-belt

his god is much bigger than his bullshit tho'

what're ya cookin?

Tue, 08/28/2012 - 07:01 | 2743017 gnomon
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Seventeen down arrows!!!

As I was saying, "a critical mass".  You intrinsically flawed Obummer/Ron Paul hybrids are no doubt reincarnated from dead concentration camp guards who whimsically killed jews for sport and pleasure.

Tue, 08/28/2012 - 07:19 | 2743029 cosmictrainwreck
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DUDE - just do us all a favor & crawl back under yer fuckin' rock

Tue, 08/28/2012 - 12:36 | 2743896 gnomon
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I just present a mirror for you jew-haters to look into.   If it repels you, you only have yourself to blame.  You Obummer lovers (now haters) who ended up in the Ron Paul camp can't begin to discern the totality of your irrational hatred and your abysmal powers of reasoning.  You are doomed to be accessories to the death of the Republic, USEFUL IDIOTS through two electoral cycles.  

Tue, 08/28/2012 - 09:43 | 2743322 nicxios
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And if blindness, retardation, mindlessness, and parroting were Olympic sports you would be on Oprah with Gabby.

Tue, 08/28/2012 - 12:22 | 2743828 TheObsoleteMan
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I suggest you go over to the boards {if they have them} at the ADL or SPLC websites. There, you will find plenty of like minded, phuked up control freaks like yourself. Don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out.......

Mon, 08/27/2012 - 22:53 | 2742637 satan2liberals
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I say let the sandniggers fight it out, we should just sit back and enjoy the show.

Mon, 08/27/2012 - 23:24 | 2742642 akak
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An enlightened perspective.


(EDIT: some people are just so obtuse --- it's called "sarcasm", folks!)

Mon, 08/27/2012 - 23:27 | 2742690 otto skorzeny
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I was just about to say that sarcasm escapes many newcomers to ZH. they must be wandering over from HuffPo

Mon, 08/27/2012 - 23:09 | 2742656 JR
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The main complaint with articles of this kind is that they tend to substantiate the rumors that there’s going to be war reaching Iran. And there are many sign posts to pass before this happens; China and Russia are critical factors and now the new president of Egypt, incidentally, working with the Saudis is attempting to solve the Middle East’s problems without the interference of the Western powers and on a peaceful basis.

The Saudis probably are less interested in war than they are in protecting their oil reserves.

Tue, 08/28/2012 - 22:14 | 2745360 slewie the pi-rat
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i appreciate your comments here, jr

it seems it is de rigeuer for any oil analyst to "expect" belligerency;  that helps keep prices up!

since late last year it hasn't been in the cards, imo

libya cost the EU a FORTUNE;  syria ain't cheap;  other "allies" don't have the flexibility the global currency and we're tapioca too!

the article is ok and although his facts about saudi interest in overthrowing assad in syria may be factual, i do not consider them fully contextual

syria borders iraQ and we went in there under totally false pretenses in march 2003

but the border to/with syria was quite porous and open and there was a LOT of "diplomacy" around that issue as i remember;  and assad wasn't pro-american;  he wasn't  anti-american totally i don't think, but for size of turf and population, his country is as diverse as ours isn't it?

a lot of middle-easterners were probably pretty pissed off about the invasion in 2003.  i was and i'm not m-e;  so assad let his diverse citizens use the border as usual; the US is the one that made all the "changes";  and it may have "cost american lives" when we couldn't control HIS borders

turkey?  they responded more willingly to the US diplomacy i'd say

bilary's "handlers" want him out b/c of regional strategies and also once you piss off a neoCon stateDept, they have a long memory; near-legendary w/ the bushDynasty, for those who can think straight

i piss them off all the time, but not on the ground

so i think it may be more than "coincidental" that they had the same program as the US for different "reasons" of course

if the US were backing assad, i don't think the saudis would be 'arming his enemies' if ya catch my drift

when kofi quit i predicted there would be a buncha bloodshed and another push to the peace talks, b/c with russia this involved and friendly with assad, militarism almost certainly can not "win"

china and the rooskies will not "look away and hold their noses" as they did over libya so the US can not get the no-fly done "legally" thru the UN which i've been pointing out since last year and finally a "news" item appeared appeared this summer where  men'devilish' said the same thing;  around the end of kofi's 'term'

so this is 'nam-like in that a military "solution" is not in the cards and never has been

that's how much propaganda we are getting tho;  the "press" is just beginning to realize there may actually hafta be peaceTalks

fuking propagandists!  thousands of people are DEAD because the PRESS is not doing its job;  the groupthink is beyond belief for MSM TV;  put two rounds thru the TV:> his & hers

hopefully the US will see the NEED to get the hell outa the budness of organizing the trashing of the peaceTalls soon;  the problem is:  criminals have their blind spots, toooo...  and we'd all like to rob a hundred banks;  i'm sure that is why we have bankster-envy:>  they rob them all the time!

even tho the saudis are fighting iranian interests in syria, they are not fighting iran

maybe somebody thinks they "should" but they weren't born last night either

not that they would fear joining the cause;  it simply is not their cause

the telecommunications and internet revolutions have much more impact on traditional societies than the more westernized ones, educationally

a decade ago were were hearing all about the "schools" and perhaps some of the "teaching" was pretty crude at least by western standards

i don't know if or how much education of these children is changing, but we aren't hearing about anti-americanism being 'taught' as much at all

this is the point i was trying to look at below, earlier, too;  when people realize they have been trained to hate other people mindlessly b/c they are "supposed" to and their children are now receiving the same training, some of them stop and get their kids outa there, too

we had jimCrow laws in 1950 didn't we?  we still have our "attitudes" about those not "like us" but it they are not the same any more either

egypt:  egypt is a very close and strong ally of the US, and this country has now elected an engineer who taught at zag-a-zig U!  i want a T-shirt and a hat!  he got his phD in soCal too!  when he changed the military leadership he didn't take them out and shoot them, he took the new guys out in the sinai!  the message may have been:  i can order you to fight and die;  and i can also order you to stop killing egyptians now!

now if that is close, that is a "long way, Baby" for egypt

egypt and israel have both been close US allies since jimmyCarter performed the wedding and the republican completely freaked out!  but they WERE able to do it!

we spent decades getting "informed" about arafat;  he'd look pretty good right now!

the CFR and foggyBottom can take their foot off the gas, too

it's not thay they haven't had their military and diplomatic successes over the last decade;  it's just that most of the foreign policy was based on LIES;  i don't even hafta assert that 9-11 was based on lies:  yea or nay on 9-11 iraQ didn't 'do' it and iraq was based on lies

and 5 years later, the USA was BK by the neocon liars!  timmah packed up a plane-load of benjamins and the plane landed in araq and the money~~nobody knows what happened to it and i'm not sure rummy did anything about those responsible;  probably b/c they were above him in the chain of command?  or it just wasn't "approprite" b/c the criminals and/or operatives might not like it

i think america deserves and answer b/c it wasn't a military deal;  they just made the delivery;  i guess the "oil analysts" don't "need" this piece of the puzzle to understand wtf is going on the mid-east

but i do;  our citizenism does;  this was a "mission" and was probably political or "diplomatic/spook";  maybe it was the cash to purchase the next 100 tons of smack;  fine!  who would be surprised at that?  if the republicunts are gonna run drug & arms trading out the white house, why shouldn't the NY FED supply the financing?  all the fuking proceeds are gonna be laundered thru the banking system too;   i don''t care;  i don't want to punish anyone;  i just want to know wtf IS going on;  i wouldn't be surprized if the NY FED got the money back!  it was a 'bridge' loan

maybe the clintons & prez0 roll this way too but just didn't 'lose' a planeload of cash when the business plan hit the ground for the "supply chain"

and i think if we were given this "part", the "picture" we are sposed to see would change, too!

this isn't ancient history, this is 9 years ago

so maybe even the corpo-fascist internationalists who are exporting the "human rights that don't mean anything-democracies"  under happy-happy-joy-joy UN cover can at LEAST back off long enuf to get the checkbook balanced again like it was when their fuking neoCons "won" the 2000 election

yeah:> i'm talkin to the CFR here wid ya;  so i hope you see it, too  L0L!!!  what the HELL is going on here?  maybe we should legalize H and use it to fund obamaCare & SS?   the methadone industry would shit!

all i know is we're freaking BROKE from these clown acts

we don't MIND working for our livings ya know!  but the people running the 'debt-enslavement' better stop w/ the fuking guns and get w/ the fuking butter:>  we need 20 million jobs back

they can engineer the export;  they can engineer the IMPORT;  so lets see them get started with THEIR money, ok?and maybe we can simplify things a bit so they'll work better for everyone;  we DO allow jobs don't we?  and yes, not using the creek as the dump IS "expensive"

china can go on printed SS, foodStamps, and unemployment;  we can redeem our bonds to help them!

they don't wanna freeTibet?   fuk em!

Wed, 08/29/2012 - 08:48 | 2746095 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Outstanding commentary! Preach on, brother.


Mon, 08/27/2012 - 23:15 | 2742666 TheObsoleteMan
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Muslims killing Muslims, the Jews couldn't have succeeded in their wildest dreams!

Tue, 08/28/2012 - 00:02 | 2742746 Buckaroo Banzai
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Muslims have been killing Muslims since the day Mohammed died.

It's their nature.

Tue, 08/28/2012 - 01:31 | 2742823 squexx
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Since Mohammad?!? They've been at each others throats MUCH longer than that! He's just the latest "Prophet" these brainwashed, superstitious idiots have been blindly following!

They've been killing each other as a hobby between mammoth hunts.


Tue, 08/28/2012 - 09:11 | 2743249 Red Herring
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Muslims do not have a monopoly on killing each other.  Lots of followers of other religions have done exactly the same. Just another "red-blue" thing, only with a longer history.

Wed, 08/29/2012 - 00:55 | 2745544 slewie the pi-rat
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first sentence:  true

2nd: false

it is generally leaned;  people have "fight 0r flight" reaction, but people learn to use violence as a justifiabiable means especially when "media" people can get paid extra to SCARE THEM

they become more willing to fight when they are constantly stimulated into the reaction

in the us, we are being taught since bush became commander-in-chief that "torture is acceptable"

remember his "attyGen" gonzo telling us how everything was all perfecty legal, see, b/c,...  ?

and cheney and that his skinny little ignorant media whore annC who will lie about anything as long as a powerful person wants it and pays her?  she didn't stop till she wasn't 'hot' attention-wiZZZe.  either

maybe the media is like the SEC;  it's always good to know what you are gonna do next if you can't think straight

Mon, 08/27/2012 - 23:53 | 2742733 New American Re...
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Moron, he thinks the Saudi's are the good guys, but the reason the Shia are fighting them, is because the Wahhabi/Saudi-Sunni Islamic Terrorist Network has been trying to kill them for 200 years... at least.   I covered this in my blog at a month ago.   I don't know what's up with Tyler, printing U.S. government approved bullshit like this.   Iran is the good guy here, they are not trying to kill us like the Saudi's are from out of the back door.   What seems to be the truth in this world is usually a lie, and a big one at that.  The Middle East is the rule.

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Tue, 08/28/2012 - 00:01 | 2742745 Juan Wild
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It's easy to see who the good guy is. It's the guy our zionist controlled MSM is AGAINST. IRAN!!!! MORONS!!!!!!!!!! Shall I repeat it for you DEAF MORONS?????? IRAN is the good guy!

Tue, 08/28/2012 - 03:05 | 2742875 Ar-Pharazôn
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you're quite right....


at least Iran is not that bad as MSM is trying to make us understand....


explain me WHY Iran should not have nuclear weapons while the only superpower that used it still have like 11'000 nuclear warhead. PURE NONSENSE AND HIPOCRISY.

Tue, 08/28/2012 - 09:11 | 2743247 Schmuck Raker
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I missed the part where he said the Saudis are the good guys.

Describing someone's motivation is not the same as supporting them.

Of course, you being an author, you probably realize this...

Tue, 08/28/2012 - 01:18 | 2742812 boiltherich
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Both sides are batshit crazy and anyone that supports either is just as bad or worse.

Tue, 08/28/2012 - 01:23 | 2742814 squexx
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The Satanic Tribe is the most bat shit crazy, not to mention totally evil!!!

Tue, 08/28/2012 - 02:42 | 2742860 dunce
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I have no information at all about what is going on anywhere in the muslim countries but am certain that any action at obamas direction will result in disaster for all parties to the conflicts. He seems incapable of doing anything right.

Tue, 08/28/2012 - 09:23 | 2743274 FRBNYrCROOKS
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You might want to read the article on which you are, now, commenting?

The article seems comprehensive. 

Tue, 08/28/2012 - 09:05 | 2743228 Schmuck Raker
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<== Follow the gourd

<== Follow the shoe

Tue, 08/28/2012 - 10:02 | 2743380 FRBNYrCROOKS
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We are , definitely, backing the wrong dog in this fight. If you read up on Twelver history you will realize the eleven prophets decended from the Prophet Mohammud were poisoned by Sunnis (Salafist). We would be a close friend of Iran had the USA not meddled in her affairs at the behest of the USA masters the British Crown. We made a horrible mistaken and we now back the wrong horse.

To make an analogy:

The Sunnis are like the Catholic Church, burning witches, burning books, molesting children and trying to stamp out and poison any other belief system contrary to their own. Wahhabis are akin to Dominicans. While Dominicans did the Popes dirty work the Wahhabis are getting their hands dirty in a modern way. Instead of torture they fly planes into buildings in NYNY. Wahhabis are from, and supported by, Saudi Arabia. 

The Shi'ites on the other hand are..............Hnmmmmmm............give me a minute.......?? Oh that's right, they took some male white hostages at the end of the 1970's (they released the blacks and women...remember?) from our Embassy in Tehran because we, the CIA and British and US Gov't, had their Democratically elected Prime Minister deposed and executed after he nationalized Irans oil assets in the 1950's. We imposed the Shah and sold him many weapons so he could oppress his people. 

To make another analogy:

The Shi'ite faith is like Christians worshiping Christ. 

The Sunni faith is like Christians worshiping the Pope.

See my point? We should send Ambassadors to Tehran.

Tue, 08/28/2012 - 11:46 | 2743475 slewie the pi-rat
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i can't give this the time this deserves till i get home from my video poker slots;  looks like good background;  hopefully not too much "industry slant"

this is the moslem equivalent of theReformation, politically;  these people can learn to live with their differences and de-condition their societies form "evil" and maybe their children especially now, within the traditional framework

the "inner" aspect of theTraditions have always known this, btw

if theDivinity gives a gift, it is not always a horse

both these interest are going forward, marketing their resources

they'll be ok;  they are "both" quite intelligent, behind all the propwash and intel bullshit for the MSM broadcast

they pump the shit and sell/trade with it

if one has a problem  understanding that, one has a BIG problem

theWest has a problem in general UNDERSTANDING tribal societies and clan life

i am a scot/irish/GB person so i have a clan myself, as well as a
family and a "lineal histoire"

i also "have" groups of relatives, moronic (ex-) 'in-laws',  and wonderfully degenerate bilge-rat offspring

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