I know that’s hard to digest in a society where pregnancies and marriages of D-list celebrities make the cover of People magazine, but there comes a point where the public’s right to know needs to take a back seat to matters like national security and diplomacy.
Heads should roll because of the Fast and Furious debacle. We don’t need every detail of that operation to be made public in order for that to happen.
If it were an isolated sting, maybe. But it is at least the third incarnation of a gun-running scheme stretching across two administrations, which means we could be pressing to open Pandora’s Box. We do not want to open Pandora’s Box, not about this and certainly not about a bunch of other potentially scandalous things the federal government has been involved with.
Fast and Furious? Please.
Being told that something’s “none of your business” is slowly being characterized as rude, and if such a statement is coming from the government, it seems incriminating.
Times have changed. Yet, not everything is our business. And in the political arena, there are things that should be and need to be kept quiet. . . .
You see, freedom isn’t entirely free.
It also isn’t squeaky clean.
And sometimes the federal government deems it necessary to get its hands a little dirty in the hopes of achieving something we generally accept as good for the country.
And maybe it’s better for us not to be so nosy, not to know everything because, to paraphrase the famous line from the movie “A Few Good Men,” many of us won’t be able to handle the truth.
LZ Granderson, CNN Columnist
This is the kind of sophomoric anti-liberty trash that passes for journalism today? Shut your mouth, mind your own business, don’t ask questions of your loving government?
Granderson may be a rabid Obama apologist who would reflexively defend anything Obama says or does, and there’s no law against that. But this man is trying to pass himself off as a journalist!
Journalism is about asking questions that corporations, governments and establishments don’t want to answer. It’s about reporting the full-story, no matter how many toes you step on. It’s about opening up power to real scrutiny. And that is something that the propagandists in big media are often incapable of — which of course is why big media is slowly dying.
I get apoplectic whenever some hawkish deficit-happy foreign policy schmuck advocates American intervention in Syria (no matter how many archaic Turkish planes are shot out of the sky) even more than I did before America struck Iraq.
The utterly bizarre imperative of American intervention in the middle east is thrown into stunning contrast against the background of utter lawlessness and destruction on America’s own border with Mexico as a direct result of the failed drug war. The clowns in successive administrations have spent so much time, effort and energy on policing the borders of Pakistan, Yemen, Afghanistan and Somalia, yet they have failed to check the growth of the drug cartels into massive, well-armed organisations.
By trying to obstruct the congressional investigation into the botched gun-running operation Fast and Furious, and instead hiding behind the phoney front of executive privilege Obama and Holder have shown that they have something to hide.
Whatever they are trying to hide should be brought to light. You can’t have an accountable government without checks and balances, and the greatest check to tyranny is transparency.
We need to know the depth and width of Fast and Furious and the programs which preceded it: how was it authorised, how was it designed, how did it go wrong, who was to blame for it going wrong.
We need to know whether or not the widely-spread allegation that the Obama administration has sold guns directly to Los Zetas is true. We need to know whether or not El Chapo and the Sinaloa Cartel are working with the DEA and the Mexican government. (Both of these allegations are widely accepted as fact in Mexico).
We need to know why Obama has chosen to continue the failed drug war, even in spite of overwhelming evidence that the illegality of drugs is the very thing that empowers the criminal cartels, and in spite of the fact that Obama is a former drug user.
We probably won’t get our answers directly from politicians; while it is the responsibility of journalists to ask these kinds of tough questions, politicians will almost always deflect. But I am sure there are some conscientious people inside the DEA, inside the Mexican government, and inside the Justice Department who will blow the whistle sooner or later. Anyone who can answer these questions is serving the public good. We can handle the truth, no matter what LZ Granderson or Eric Holder thinks. We need to hold government to account for its actions.



I use drugs to clean my bath tub.
i wish i were your bath tub.... when you are not peeing down the drain, of course
On the contrary, the media is extremely tough on the government. Politicians have to constantly watch their every move in case the media literally ruins their lives with some horrendous hit piece. Politicians live in constant fear of the media: Not only does the media scrutinise their every move to make sure their actions are impeccably moral, but politicians such as Ron Paul and Gary Johnson have had to apologise for some of their appalling criticism of the war on terror, the welfare state and national security. I honestly wish the media would lay it off a little so that politicians can GET ON WITH THEIR STINKING JOBS. Sorry - I just get really worked up about this kind of injustice. It's simply inexcusable.
You truly are a riot, where can i get some of what you are smokin?
Yeah big media will ask every tough question in the book of Ron Paul and Gary Johnson.
With Romney and Obama it's all softballs. Because they are the "serious" candidates with the "real" (i.e. neocon) foreign policy credentials.
MDB accidentally hit it out of the park.
The Fast and Furious is just rabid right wing mouth breathers trying to hang Obama on anything they can make stick. They weren't running guns, they were tracking them. The whole thing is bullshit.
Thinking there's some giant conspiracy is a fantasy. Perhaps there are better targets like the drug war itself (like you touched on), or the private prison racket in Arizona, or any of the corruption on Walls street to K street. There's tons of low hanging fruit, and topics that actually matter.
All lines of logic I have tried lead to the point "why are we even fighting the drug war??"
At the same time, if you're refusing to answer questions in Congress, and you're engaging in risky activities that are having significant blowback, it raises a lot of suspicion.
I never said it was a giant conspiracy. I probably wouldn't have said Watergate was a giant conspiracy 'til we got fully-blown confirmation.
I just said people should ask questions, and look around. Everything about this stinks to high heaven.
I think it's funny that this journalist makes the case for ending journalism. After all, we just don't need to know.
Pootie Tang FTMFW!
I see that my old Members Only jacket is back in style! Hoooray.
Just so you know, I don't think it's a hetero style.
Hedge accordingly.
He likes to squeeze Don's Lemons?
where i saw this story first: http://www.salon.com/2012/06/27/cnn_journalist_dont_be_nosy/
He looks alot like the guy I just bought drugs from.
I thought it was Blastmaster KRSOne!
The political answer to the issue is to allow Issa into a room where he can read the documents while supervised. Turn about is fair play. But he's a vile human being who holds much responsibility in the destruction of California as the commie wing there.
It's all political theater.
Political theater?
C'mon, even sociopathic CONgressmen are to be taken seriously when they sound the trumpets of principle!
After all, sheepies, what's more important than principle?
This may be that first, fundamentally critical step in their growth into moral human beings. They might be ready to stop killing and abusing people both at home and abroad if they can just get to the bottom of this business.
American Democracy: You just gotta believe.
No the fast and furious thing is about the cover up. That get's people impeached or they resign but not this guy because the media won't create a firestorm. He's one of them.
The F&F "thing" is that in the big picture, it was designed as an underhanded attack on the 2nd Amendment. It wasn't "botched" at all until an American joined the running body count of Mexicans.
Interesting argument being made by the 2nd Amendment, "don't regulate guns" crowd.
Somewhere they seem to have gone off the track here though. They always argue against government controlling guns. They always argue that guns are not to blame for anything, that's it's the shooter that is the problem, not the weapon. Most, as far as I can see, don't complain about the US government being the world's first and foremost weapons dealer, weapons of mass destruction or otherwise. Sure kills alot of people, American and otherwise.
They seem to be speaking from other people's mouths now on this issue.
I'm a supporter of the 2nd Amendment, but I know what the fanatics look like and the point men on this "scandal" carry their water day in and day out.
Is it about the loss of life? Aside from aborted fetuses, their neocon values are an abomination wrt anything close to a respect for life.
Is it their principles? Iraq War, FISA, TBTF, NDAA, and on and on and on.
This isn't to say that political opportunism is wrong, but is it too much to expect for the audience to keep both feet in reality about the show?
FWIW, I'd like to see Barry and Place Holder chained back-to-back and dropped into the Mariana Trench.
But do I really have to be a sucker for this current bullshit to be on the "right side" of things?
There's a reason divide and conquer works so well.
People are like monkeys who jump up and down in rapture when shown pictures of bananas. Or when somebody holds a lighter under one. Or a rumor spreads that somebody might have a lighter in the house.
But at least we got that team spirit thing to give it a larger meaning.
I dunno, I thought the same thing - but the more i've read the more sinister it really looks, apart from the conspiracy theory nonsense. It looks like they were basically arming the cartels - at least the program attempted under Bush was actively trying to track the weapons, not just cleaning up the mess after the cartels used them to murder people.
I gave you the plus +1.
Zero Hedge has become full of idiots who cannot see the difference between what's important and what's not because it is mere political posturing.
people are worried about 'corruption in government' generally and foolishly focus their ire on 'gun running'.
how about the military industrial complex secretly "MISSILE TANK AND EXPLOSIVE RUNNING TO ENTIRE NAITIONS AND TERRORIST GROUPS AROUND THE WORLD WHO ARE MERCENARIES ON BEHALF OF MIC/CORPORATE COMPLEX". this is a much bigger story of corruption by the government trancensing obama/bush/clinton...etc, etc, etc.......
eric holder? seirously? this is going to be what people see as 'important'????? in one years or in 4 more years this guy will be gone and some other republicrat demopublican stooge will be on top of the doj doing plenty of corrupt dumb things. this is NOT the big systemic issue right here. anyone focussing on it as such is totally misguided.
Look just because the rest of the corpse is rotten and full of maggots does not mean that f & f isnt also a puss filled boil needing lanced. Holder was in charge at OKC, so we know he is a filthy liar.
The government is a disgusting lieing deceiving pile of rotten trash. Fast and furious was only brought to light by people who made it their duty to whistle blow and expose.
This is not tracking, that is utter bullshit. Yes this is a small operation, however what it is is a microcosm of what our government does. It lies, cheats, steals and breaks the law in order to get their way.
We should use every opportunity to take the smallest crack such as f&f and rip it the fuck open to expose how deep the rabbit whole goes and I guarantee it goes very very deep.
Now the republican establishment and media has no intention of going anywhere but surface level on f&f. They are part of the same corrupt game.
This does not however make f&f unimportant.
Not necessarily unimportant in principle, but in practice it is except to the extent that it distracts everyone from the death and destruction that has no possibility of being aired since this bullshit fills our minimum daily requirement for "news" and pruient scandal.
Getting to the bottom of anything significant beyond the immediate issue is about as likely as impeaching Clinton for lying about getting his dick sucked in the oval office (while point man Gingich, champion of Liberty, was getting his sucked in the parking lot) was to herald a new era of honorable conduct in government.
Long as we suck their dicks on command, via their convenient distractions of moral outrage, nothing substantive is ever gonna change.
It's become full of idiots like you who want to give criminals in government a pass because there are other criminals in government who haven't been prosecuted. Using your retarded chimp logic, nobody in government should be prosecuted.
Some of ya here need to check http://factcheck.org/ (or others like it) and stop watching Fox News brainwashing. I'm a Ron Paul guy by the way and no Obama fan. They're lying to ya people - they always have been. You always have got to have the Boogey Man don't ya or .... you wouldn't watch the junk.
So you're saying that Foxnews is lying and that the DOJ is going to prosecute Holder?
No
Your comment may just be the most unintentionally stupid and ignorant comment I have yet seen on zeroedge.
I shall wear that as a badge of honor, that I don't buy into the self reinforcing group think that passes for reasoning in the ZH comment mob. Sometimes contrarian thought means being right, and sometimes it turns out everybody else in the world is right.
What the fuck? Illegally gun-running machine guns used directly to murder citizens is treason, even MORE SO when it's BORDER GUARDS. If you really don't want border guards just FIRE THEM, SEND THEM HOME, DON'T FUND THEIR MURDER. Arming the enemy to attack over the border is TREASON punishable by DEATH.
MDB's humor is no "accident".
At this time, apparently only +17 'get it' and -29 don't.
Or, 29 just don't think he's that funny. Pity.
MDB is a genius – it is satire folks. The only problem I have is giving the up or down arrow ……… I never down arrow anybody by the way, but I get my fair share LOL, maybe it’s my screen name.
You'd be eating someone's face off if you tried it.
I hereby nominate MDB for the post of Trollmaster General!
He highlights the need for an ignore button.
It was there ever a face to be used under the heading "Don't ask questions of your government" it would surely be The Bush Administration, and specifically Dick Cheney. Their assault on the Constitution was endless. Can you only imagine all the OUTRAGE and the faux McCarthyism that would be drummed up by Faux News if Obama enacted the Patriot Act, complete with his ability to listen to your phone calls. OMG. IT"S HITLER!!!!!
Take a look at 7:40 of the following Jon Stewart clip:
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/jon-stewart-rips-fox-news-hypocritical-outrag...
MF
What if MF and MDB had a baby...
...he would look like Trayvon Martin.
"The old rules said if there was a defensible argument for not disclosing something to the American people then it should not be disclosed. That era is now over... The mere fact that you have the legal power to keep something secret does not mean you should always use it... The Freedom of Information Act is perhaps the most powerful instrument we have for making our government honest and transparent and of holding it accountable. And I expect members of my administration not simply to live up the the letter but also the spirit of this law. I will also hold myself as president to a new standard of openness... Let me say it as simply as I can, transparency and the Rule of Law will be the touchstones of this presidency." Barack Obama
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72g7qmeP1dE
Barack Obama on Government Transparency"I'll let you participate in government forums, ask questions, in real time, offer suggestions that will be reviewed before decisions are made and let you comment on legislation before it is signed." Barack Obama
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CU0m6Rxm9vU
The Changing Touchstone of Transparency"This is the administration that's prosecuted more whistle blowers in the past 2 years than in the preceding 40 years, that meets with lobbyists across the street from the White House so they don't have to disclose they're meeting with lobbyists, and, this is true, censored nearly 200 pages of internal emails about their efforts to make government more transparent." Jon Stewart
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4AJ843ERnU
Americans clearly have some deeep seated reservations and resentment in relation to their president. However, the answers to their questions are known by the men who picked him to be the first black president of the USA.
One day Obama will no longer be president, but the process and the men who really choose the next president of the USA will still be around deciding who the next president will be.
These are the people that the people of the USA should focus on.
Hot, lukewarm or cold?
Don't you mean "Saint" Trayvon?
Didn't O'bomb-a promise not to renew the "Patriot" Act if elected? Wasn't the protection of individual liberties another one of his biggest campaign promises? Oops. Inconvenient truth time.
Yes, he promised to close Guantanamo as well. And signed the NDAA act...but promised not to use it. But it's there for the next guy, right handy.
It's exhibit A as to why the expansion of powers must be fought by both sides and all people because anybody running for prez might be against it until they win. And then once in office......well hey, don't mind if I do.
Funny, I had a gestalt moment when I figured that Bush II might have signed PD 51 for "the next guy" as well....
Yes but he's kept his promise that energy prices will necessarily sky rocket. Thanks Obama!!!!!
Maxxy:
With that large brain and small skull of yours, you fail to see Obama and Dubya serve the same master(s). Of course they don't give a fuck about the Constitution or the "Law".
The game, sir, is played by diversion.
Referencing Jonathan Stuart Leibowitz instantly discredits anything you say or have said.
FYI. Bush is no longer president, obama is, get over it, they are both fucking filthy rotten scumbags. Ok now let's focus on the Fucking scumbag in office. When he is gone we can focus on the next fucking scumbag.
It's a favorite strategy of the obama bootlickers to distract from their messiah's criminal actions. The brainless 0bots would march headfirst into 0bama's ass if ordered to do so
Rumor has it that they might actually fit.
Bush = Obama
no difference, Maxi-pad
Your responses are so clinically predictable that if I close my eyes I can see you sitting next to Tyler, talking about what you'll post to invoke a reponse. Do you get paid or is it just the entertainment value of seeing the responses?
Hear, hear....I believe you. Give me your card and pass me the crack pipe...and some food stamps while your at it.
MDB you are so full of shit, LOL.... erverytime I read your comments, I am cracked up.... You fake the perfect idiot so well, which means that you have a particularly rotten sense of humor, and you get a lot of idiots fall into it and go into insults and everything. I am sure you cheering everytime you see people fall for it and go mad after you, playing sadistically with their frustration and their anger against your comments.... LOL LOL LOL....
to make sure their actions are impeccably moral....
Hahahahhahahahhahaahaha
Well now there is no doubt!! Your not a liberal, your an Idiot!!!
Credibility......ZERO!!!!
Hahahhahahahhaahhahahha
And if you don't know that MDB is our resident sarc master, then...
Your insight......ZERO!!!! hahahaa
"your an Idiot!!!" You twice managed a nice grammar-fail, too.
why is MDB's sarcasim lost on so many readers?
jb
Fanaticism kills one's sense of humor.
Because so many are found making alike comments with no sarcasm intended.
htf did this get 31 "likes"?
The war on terror IS an act of terrorism, the US government IS the terrorist government. The entire world can see it. There's documented mass murder and mass rape.
Sorry MDB, your sarcastic style sometimes is better but regardless, for being so blatantly false you always get a thumbs down when using it.
Most popular comment on the CNN article with 711 likes:
"DanCO84
Really? Members of the federal government have been involved in crimes in the past, so we should just ignore all crimes in the future? You say:
"I understand the role of the press is to find out the truth and I am
thankful for it. But maybe it's better for us not to be so nosy, not to
know everything because, to paraphrase the famous line from the movie "A
Few Good Men," many of us just can't handle the truth."
Is that really the way a reporter should view things? Well some of you shouldn't know the truth? This article makes me sick and you are no journalist"
+1 for DanCO84, wherever he is.
This "journalist" certainly understands on which side his bread is buttered... and nothing else.
I completely disagree with LZ Granderson's article (and with most of what he writes), but let's clarify...he's not a journalist at all. He's an OP-ED writer. That means he can write any 'ol opinion he wants. Even if it's (unfortunately) full of Obama sympathy and liberal poo-poo.
Has anyone ever read the columns from one of CNN's other op-ed contributors, Navarette? He's one of the worst, always championing Mexican illegal aliens and slamming "whitey" US citizens. He and I got into it back when he wrote about th "Morgan Five"...the five high school kids who chose to wear shirts displaying the American flag. They wore them on May 5...Cinco de Mayo...and were suspended for inciting violence among the school's majority of Mexican students. Navarette ignored the fact that this same school displayed the same American flag at the front of the school, and even accepted government funding, and instead lambasted the five kids as (let me remember how he said it?) "rude, spoiled, and hateful".
LZ Granderson is a bit more civilized in his approach, but nevertheless waves the flag (sic) for the LGBT and Obama causes.
CNN was a decent source of news fifteen years ago. Now it's just a liberal-saturated mosh pit.
CNN today = Communist News Network
We need the real thing.
glas·nost
noun /?glaz?n?st/ /?glas-/ /?gläz-/ /?gläs-/
Glas nost: The reason RT is probably more justifiably considered to be legitimate journalism than any of the Rockefellar foundation and Trilateral Commision censored clap-trap found on the networks of the USSA...
One more thing we need to know.........
We need to know where Obama was born.
Shit, we know that already. Kenya.
But Barack Obama ceased to exist in the 1960's. He was Barry Soetoro the Indonesian boy. He's got brothers and sisters there ( and a tranvestite nanny too) who can verify that.
Hey! And his Grandma died just three days before voting! Is he a strong character!
Specifically, our Usurper-in-Chief was born in Coast Province General Hospital in Mombasa to a rebellious teen floozie who apparently liked cullerd men.
I managed to secure an electronic copy of his Certificate of Birth, complete with footprint, allegedly obtained from a hospital employee for a gold coin. Also, a Certified Copy of Registration of Birth from Coast Province.
I also have a photo of the Soetoro fambly, including a younger half-Indonesian half-sibling nobody ever talks about. I guess his mom really liked Indonesian guys too...
However, if de foot print don't fit, I be willin' to acquit.
A congratualtory committee wil be kicking in your door at 0200 this morning. Enjoy the party.
If you've got a copy of the birth certificate, why don't you post it?
macholatte,
Do you want the terrorists to win? What part of freedom don't you like? Goddamn democrats, er, republicans, uh, oh nevermind.
Washington, May 15 - Congressmen Mac Thornberry (R-TX) and Adam Smith (D-WA) recently introduced “The Smith-Mundt Modernization Act of 2012” (H.R. 5736). The bill modifies a Cold War-era law that hampers diplomatic, defense, and other agencies’ ability to communicate in the 21st century.
We need to know where Obama was born
Wow. Retard-o-rama returns to ZH. Why on Earth would we need to know that? Oh, let me guess, to find out if he is legally our President. Yawn. Yet another person who doesn't know what the hell they are talking about.
Please point me to where it says our President must be born in the US. Our founding documents state that a person must be a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN, but they don't define what natural born citizen is. A little problematic.
Now some scholars have said that a "natural born citizen" is a person born in the US to two Citizen Parents. But many constitutional scholars believe a Natural Born Citizen includes people who were born outside of the United States to a US Citizen. Sticky and UNRESOLVED. In sum, there is LITTLE DEFINITION of what Natural Born Citizen means, although we all know that at least one parent needs to be a US Citizen. (and nobody disputes that Obama came out of his mother's lady parts).
This is why few to nobody cared about George Romney (who was born in MEXICO) when he ran for President, or John McCain (who was born in PANAMA).
But as we all know, the real difference is that Obama is black. And you know, can't be a "real" American if you're born black. Then you're a muslim Kenyan.
I for one would like to know because the whole bullshit history of this man has come out of his owm mouth. I want to see his college transcripts too. This man is a con artist.
They weren't elected.
Wow. Retard-o-rama returns to ZH.
Very cute. You forgot to add the sarc label cause folks might just mistake you for a mentally ill Progressive Hack from the Center for American Progress, Media Matters or some other Soros organization.
The point is simply this: the issue of Obama's birth should not be an issue. Just like all the other unknowns about him. Clearly there is a cover up or why would it not be easy to get the truth? Why does he find it necessary to issue an executive order hiding his personal history?
Also, all the stuff about the definition of a Natural Born is just a subterfuge & horseshit.
During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.
George Orwell
Clearly you belong in the Retard-0-rama club, based on your worthless and uninformed BS. The phrase Natural Born Citizen was well-defined in Emmerich de Vattel's "The Law of Nations", published in 1758 and undoubtedly familiar to those who wrote the Constitution. It clearly states that to be a natural-born citizen, both of one's parents must also be parents. Obama's father was a citizen of the British Commonwealth. Obama doesn't qualify. Neither, in face, does the recent favorite of many Republicans for the VP nomination, Marco Rubio. Do you want to tell me I'm racist because I supposedly hate both blacks and hispanics? Sorry, I only detest Reds and other progressives.
You probably don't know where the word 'happiness' came from when it was placed in the Declaration of Independence, either. You know, life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, and all that stuff. Heck, most on the American left (actually far left, as many Republicans are center-left these days) as still confused about what the meaning of "is" is. And yesterday we foiund that most Democrats are clueless about the difference between a penalty and a tax.
I junked you because
1) George Romney didn't get the nomination so it was a non-issue; and
2) The McCain issue was settled because he was born in a place considered to be US soil; and
3) You obviously don't know what you're talking about because you think the natural born citizen issue isn't clear in legal terms; and
4) Because you pulled the racist card for no reason, making you a jackass.
If Obama's own memoirs and history weren't so flippin convoluted and sources favorable to him often can't get his life story correct, at least some doubt is due.
I had a healthy dose of skepticism on the issue either way until the Clinton machine stopped investigating it - if they didn't think it was politically worthwhile, I took that as confirmation that it's most likely a dead end.
They were famously told during the 2008 Bilderberg meeting to can it, the O was the man of the moment, with a gentle "remember Vince Foster" kiss.
Gee, I guess we do not need someone to fill the position of the President that is at least honest and believes in integrity.
Liberal douchebag. Where were you born by the way?
Sergeant Shaw.
Sergeant Raymond Shaw.
Raymond Prentiss Shaw.
If drugs were legalized, all politicians would die paupers and the CIA would no longer have an enormous slush fund to create havoc around the world.
Plus, Wall Steet wouldn't survive without the hundreds of billions of $$ they launder every year. Liquidity + big markup.
And the municipal bond market would collapse without drug money, too.
and ther you have it...
(Trillions)
Spot on Buckaroo....If the stream goes dry, the TBTF.banks die...That's why a slap on the wrist and/or a small fine is the norm.
Transparency? Look's pretty transparent from where i stand. here's one from Bloomberg.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-06-29/banks-financing-mexico-s-drug-c...
The spice must flow...
It is by will alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the juice of sapho that thoughts acquire speed, the lips acquire stains, the stains become a warning. It is by will alone I set my mind in motion.
+1 for the Mentat win.
If they were interested in eliminating drugs, they would get Monsanto to create weed without THC, poppies without opium, etc. Then we could keep all the drug production here at home. That's what we need, American jobs in meth labs and other Americans producing American designer drugs. Gotta go, my bath salts just arrived and I'm getting hungry.
LZ Granderson is a racist hack.
For the first 2 years of the Obama Administration, whenever it was pointed out how badly he was fuckin' up things, his apologist's mantra was... "Gid da Brotha a schance, man!"
Now, after more than 3 years, and things have only gotten worse, that mantra doesn't work anymore. Thus his apologist's now resort to crap like this article.
Very true, just an example
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NcbIQ1-av0
I wonder what mos def has to say about obama these days
The REAL culprits for this country being stuck with this incompetent moron in the highest position in the land...
The MSM - who were so enamored with the all political correctness and their being able to facilitate the election of the First Black President, they REFUSED to properly vet him.
And now they're enabling bullshit from idiots like LZ Granderson and trying to pass it off as legitimate journalism.
It's not enough that their viewers are declining in number... Comes the revolution... the MSM is first against the wall!
How does a biracial WASP-Kenyan become black???? tie goes to the mother
partus law also makes him white
One drop rule.
Inasmuch as the latest scientific genetic evidence points to the African ancestry of Homo Sapiens,
we could all claim to be African-Americans.
Yo Harry, you're a writer, are we that type?
Dont believe the hype.
i get the feeling when jack nicholson said it, a lot of you agreed and were pissed when he was perp walked at the end
Great job of rumor mongering:
" widely-spread allegation"
"Both of these allegations are widely accepted as fact in Mexico"
The virgin mother is widely accepted as fact in Mexico. Get your head out of you ass and do some real journalism yourself.
All I'm saying is people should ask questions. If a former leader of Los Zetas says the DEA sold them guns, that's something people should consider. That's real journalism.
We don't ask questions we salute click our heels and say yea sir.
I don't disagree with the message that journalists should question and question hard, what I am objecting to is the sudden focus on 'fast and furious.' Even if every thing alleged is true, it is a distraction from important issues that are far more urgent to resolve. Drug thugs are violent subhuman beings that will get the guns no matter what. 2,000 guns is a drop in the bucket.
This is a pure political play to damage Obama. I'm not a big fan of Obama, but the rabid right wing is trying to spin this whole non-scandal into a totally fallacious example of Obama's supposed plan to ban all guns. When will the right wingnuts be exposed for the true cancer on society they are?
Right away, I can tell you're a douchebag for bringing the Virgin Mary into this.
As far as "journalism" is concerned, everything you need to know is at Sipsey Street Irregulars, which broke the story and did all the hard journalism. Let me make it easy for you: all the facts are well established about Fast and Furious, it was a dirty crime designed to undermine the 2nd Amendment, which blew up in Holder's face. Only one question remains: What did Obama know, and when did he know it.
That's two questions, in one sentence. Just being pendantic.
+1000 Buckaroo nailed it, all you need to know..
He knew wehn he made the comment about a question about the brady bill. "We are working on that under the radar."
http://voices.yahoo.com/hot-air-reports-obama-were-working-8536259.html
Right away I can tell you're a conspiracy theorist given to political spin produced by those who are least credible on the interweb. You probably don't believe climate change is happening either.
Here ya' go.
http://pjmedia.com/blog/worse-than-gunwalker-state-dept-allegedly-sold-g...
Let's hope Fast and Furious was not a staged operation designed by the ATF (Justice Dept.) to escalate certain security concerns and thereby pursuade Congress to increase ATF's funding and purview.
Just my opinion, but I think that's exactly what it was, and the documentation being withheld shows this clearly. That's why the administration wants so badly to keep it quiet.
Of course it was, though it probably had some side beenies as well.
The US guv is sickeningly corrupt. A joke.
See Backaroo Banzai above.
"US guns have to be restricted because their flooding into Mexico." was the anti-2nd Amendment play. Hilary and associated flunkies heavily involved.
For all we know, the guns could have been sold to drug cartels in exchange for information... about Chavez, about Russian intelligence, about individuals living in the border region who are heavily armed and anti-U.S. government. For all we know the guns could have been sold for cold, hard, greenbacks and kicked back up the chain-of-command so that everyone got a piece.
The point is... we don't know anything.
last good journalist
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H._L._Mencken
Taibbi
ZH is good journalism in an age of fucking insipid shitsucking
Taibbi brings way more heat than light. That said, at least he is actually trying.
Quite so.
I can put up with a lot of quirks, so long as the guy is really trying to find and report the truth.
Matt for sure. Mike, his dad, maybe or maybe not. Mike does work for NBC which is strike against him, but then he did have a part in there being Matt.
But, you are correct: Say Taibbi and one thinks of Matt.
A few more entries - especially about LIBOR - here: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog
Pete
Taibbi's old partner at the Exile Marke Ames brings the heat too.
http://exiledonline.com/
Taibbi fails the 9/11 test and is therefore some sort of controlled opposition.
He's throwing out certain financial 'meat' to steer attention away from the geo-political realities.
Glenn Greenwald- who wrote about this CNN douche as well
Could it be another community organizer promoted far above his ability?
Looking at the picture, I'm not sure if he's passing himself off as a journalist or a valet parking attendant.
peter principle bitchez!.....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Principle
We need to know if the admin was involved?.......can't believe that is a valid question.
The answer is Absolutely,it was designed to build up public support for MORE Gun Control in the US.
The dead agent with the weapons beside him, was evidence enough.
It was enough to get rifles/shotguns on the list of having to be reported to the FBI by all FFL dealers in Texas,(not just the border dealers) if more than ONE was sold,even to CCW Holders.
Before that you could buy as many in Texas at once as you could pay for.
Add the fact that Vincente Fox was KNEE deep in this also.
Now who besides the cartels is responsible for 50k deaths in,and along the border??,the Admin who is hiding behind Obywans EP powers & the Mex Gov.
we need to know why hillary & co. want to exradite julian assange for terrorist crimes against the truth --- what's gonna happen when they electrocute him,... and the mindless sheeple concur with their rote lines via MSM's (ingsoc) Newspeak!
thanks AZIZ!!!
Assange for president!
10K +'s
For more gun control... disarm the peasantry
Long live the New Versailles
"By trying to obstruct the congressional investigation into the botched gun-running operation Fast and Furious, and instead hiding behind the phoney front of executive privilege Obama and Holder have shown that they have something to hide."
No shit. And the operation was not "botched", it was executed exactly as they planned.
exactly. i don't why the meme of it being "botched" is so prevalent. how can you possibly track guns when by design you make no effort to actually, you know, track them? without working with (let alone informing) the Mexican govt? even some of the straw buyers were already CIA informants - meaning the govt already knew who they were buying for.
there's no explanation for F&F that's remotely rational - except as an attempt to subvert the 2nd amendment. so when you add in the fact the Holder and the DOJ have stonewalled everything for over a year (and what they did provide was later determined to be lies), plus Obama's desperate 11th hour claim of executive privilege for documents he'd previously sworn he had no knowledge of, you know there's got to be some seriously damning shit in those docs.
this is a 100X's worse than Watergate. but kneepad journalists actually have the gall to say we should just trust them.
I think Issa has all the emails already, he knows everything including the cover up, he just cant make them public. Its bad, Obama and DOJ know it.
Bitch please!
"You see, freedom isn’t entirely free."
--True, but:
(1) Why didn't leftists journalists use this line during the Bush II administration?
(2) How can freedom come at the price of freedom? Must be a product of the public school system.
The cost of freedom is eternal vigilance against the distortions made by propagandists like Granderson.
but not string-jumping trolls you pompous jackass?
"Journalism is about asking questions that corporations, governments and establishments don’t want to answer."
Correction, journalism was about asking questions that corporations, governments, and establishments don't want to answer. Now the corporations own the journalists and dictate content based on government and establishment agendas. That is why the nation knows the name of Trayvon Martin but not that of Brian Terry. Hell, even Nancy Pelosi doesn't know Terry's name. And it's such a hard name to pronounce, too.
Follow the money
Same reasoning used before 1960s in regards to the FBI's investigation of public figures like MLK, Malcom X, etc. I'm sure that would make him proud.
this is where million cdollar cunt's post would be if he had simply used the box at the bottom of the page instead of jumping the string for the nnnth time
the aziz shithead sure thinks he's doin us a favor here don't he?
Say what you want about me, but what's your problem with MDB?
He's as funny as hell.
please don't feed the trolls, ok?
humor can also be put in the box at the bottom of the page; he doesn't hafta jump every string to amuse his toy-boy peanut gallery of clowns who are here to make bon mots about issues which they don't comprehend
being funny isn't a reason to disrespect every string he comments on here by going right to the top like michael, ori, and the other prima fuking donettes
look where his remarks would be if he just wasn't "special"
to y-o-u
you wanna kiss his ass on the wwW and zH, they are yer lips, son
here, for example, the author takes on a guy who is NOT AN INVESTIGATIVE JOURNALIST and blames him for not being an investigative journalist
there are different types of journalism, ok? different kinds
not everyone decides to dig up dirt on the police chief or the local mafiosa and put it in the paper, ok?
i don't think this dude is speaking for CNN is he? he is speaking for himself or for "his desk" and he doesn't investigate the DOJ
the congress does! with a special prosecutor and it takes a lot ofJuice to get it started; issa ain't got the Juice to handleHolder so this is just posing for the camera
also i hope you can see that this guy hasn't done anything but his job; and it isn't his job to light the attyGeneral's pubes on fire and investigate prez0 and he doesn't give a fuk about it
so what?
i think the young man could have expressed himself better here and i think CNN does too; he may have gotten some feedback from other than the Aziz family (?) & zH
the author of this hit-piece, jAziz is not bernstein or woodward imo; he will investigate things from his desk as will you and i or a bit beyond and try try try to understand; you wanna go after this story you better have
this black guy has as much cred up against that list as any of us; tyler can't do this; maybe this guy is doin it; if i did have those guns aboard, and if i were doing the story, that is exactly wtf slewie would say too: word-4-word! oh thank you for asking, mrAziz! ... unhhh...
apparently, this kid just stuck his foot in his mouth, something i respect, and i'll take his back here, ok? he's not the face of softball poli-Qs or MSM propwash any more than annCoulter, whose very head should be shat upon and spat upon as a torture-enabler herself imo
he looks like a regular guy with a job; and maybe a car, place to live, sigOther, golf clubs, camera, pistol and tent; maybe he water-skiis or is an amateur magician or plays the fuking harp but he didn't do anything wrong and there's not a damned thing wrong with his face in my book, i don't give a fuk what you or tyler or jAziz "thinks"
maybe i don't have the same values as this CNN guy any more than you guys, but so what? he's got his ship under sail, i got mine; you got yers; maybe he learns something here, even from us; but i don't see any need to crucify him in order to sayhe mighta handled that better and check out the framed "questionAuthority" bumpersticker i got4him, too! personally, i don't feel i have the right to do much more than that
but you guys frame him up and nail him all night if you want, ok? and don't forget the sermonizing about free speech and integrity while doing it! L0L!!!
so thanks and hava nice day, shithead
peace
That was a lot of words just to say "we're all just arguing about stuff on the internet and his opinion is as valid as ours."
Doesn't change the fact that he's paid to be essentially a shill.
yes, you're correct
that is not exactly what or all i said, you styooopid moron
no, i acknowledged the fact that he doesn't have the same values even as myself, "shill-wise" also
if you don't mind reading the actual words where i talked about that, of course...
and yes, he does have a job; what do you do? write parking tickets?
nice....
very nice....
Kudos