I am not exaggerating.
This is Finnish writer Pentti Linkola — a man who demands that the human population reduce its size to around 500 million and abandon modern technology and the pursuit of economic growth — in his own words.
He likens Earth today to an overflowing lifeboat:
What to do, when a ship carrying a hundred passengers suddenly capsizes and there is only one lifeboat? When the lifeboat is full, those who hate life will try to load it with more people and sink the lot. Those who love and respect life will take the ship’s axe and sever the extra hands that cling to the sides.
He sees America as the root of the problem:
The United States symbolises the worst ideologies in the world: growth and freedom.
He unapologetically advocates bloodthirsty dictatorship:
Any dictatorship would be better than modern democracy. There cannot be so incompetent a dictator that he would show more stupidity than a majority of the people. The best dictatorship would be one where lots of heads would roll and where government would prevent any economical growth.
We will have to learn from the history of revolutionary movements — the national socialists, the Finnish Stalinists, from the many stages of the Russian revolution, from the methods of the Red Brigades — and forget our narcissistic selves.
A fundamental, devastating error is to set up a political system based on desire. Society and life have been organized on the basis of what an individual wants, not on what is good for him or her.
As is often the way with extremist central planners Linkola believes he knows what is best for each and every individual, as well as society as a whole:
Just as only one out of 100,000 has the talent to be an engineer or an acrobat, only a few are those truly capable of managing the matters of a nation or mankind as a whole. In this time and this part of the World we are headlessly hanging on democracy and the parliamentary system, even though these are the most mindless and desperate experiments of mankind. In democratic coutries the destruction of nature and sum of ecological disasters has accumulated most. Our only hope lies in strong central government and uncompromising control of the individual citizen.
In that sense, Linkola’s agenda is really nothing new; it is as old as humans. And I am barely scratching the surface; Linkola has called for “some trans-national body like the UN” to reduce the population “via nuclear weapons” or with “bacteriological and chemical attacks”.
But really he is just another freedom-hating authoritarian — like the Nazis and Stalinists he so admires — who desires control over his fellow humans. Ecology, I think, is window-dressing. Certainly, he seems to have no real admiration or even concept of nature as a self-sustaining, self-organising mechanism, or faith that nature will be able to overcome whatever humanity throws at it. Nor does he seem to have any appreciation for the concept that humans are a product of and part of nature; if nature did not want us doing what we do nature would never have produced us. Nature is greater and smarter than we will probably ever be. I trust nature; Linkola seems to think he knows better. As George Carlin noted:
We’re so self-important. Everybody’s gonna save something now. Save the trees. Save the bees. Save the whales. Save those snails. And the greatest arrogance of all, save the planet. What? Are these fucking people kidding me? Save the planet? We don’t even know how to take care of ourselves yet. We haven’t learned how to care for one another and we’re gonna save the fucking planet?
There is nothing wrong with the planet. The planet is fine. The people are fucked. Difference. The planet is fine.
Linkola and similar thinkers seem to have no real interest in meeting the challenges of life on Earth. Their platform seems less about the environment and more about exerting control over the rest of humanity. Linkola glories in brutality, suffering and mass-murder.
Now Linkola is just one fringe voice. But he embodies the key characteristic of the environmental movement today: the belief that human beings are a threat to their environment, and in order for that threat to be neutralised, governments must take away our rights to make our own decisions and implement some form of central planning. Linkola, of course, advocates an extreme and vile form of Malthusianism including genocide, forced abortion and eugenics.
But all forms of central planning are a dead end and lead inexorably toward breakdown; as Hayek demonstrated conclusively in the 1930s central planners have always had a horrible track record in decision making, because their decisions lack the dynamic feedback mechanism present in the market. This means that capital and labour are misallocated, and anyone who has studied even a cursory history of the USSR or Maoist China knows the kinds of outcomes that this has lead to: at best the rotting ghost cities of China today, and at worst the mass starvation of the Great Leap Forward resulting in millions of deaths and untold misery.
Environmentalists should instead pursue ideas that respect individual liberty and markets. There is more potential in developing technical solutions to environmental challenges than there is in implementing central planning.
If we are emitting excessive quantities of CO2 we don’t have to resort to authoritarian solutions. It’s far easier to develop and market technologies like carbon scrubbing trees (that already exist today) that can literally strip CO2 out of the air than it is to try and develop and enforce top-down controlling rules and regulations on individual carbon output. Or (even more simply), plant lots of trees and other such foliage (e.g. algae).
If the dangers of non-biodegradable plastic threaten our oceans, then develop and market processes (that already exist today) to clean up these plastics.
Worried about resource depletion? Asteroid mining can give us access to thousands of tonnes of metals, water, and even hydrocarbons (methane, etc). For more bountiful energy, synthetic oil technology exists today. And of course, more capturable solar energy hits the Earth in sunlight in a single day than we use in a year.
The real problem with centrally-planned Malthusian population reduction programs is that they greatly underestimate the value of human beings.
More people means more potential output — both in economic terms, as well as in terms of ideas. Simply, the more people on the planet, the more hours and brainpower we have to create technical solutions to these challenges. After all, the expansion of human capacity through technical development was precisely how humanity overcame the short-sighted and foolish apocalypticism of Thomas Malthus who wrongly predicted an imminent population crash in the 19th century.
My suggestion for all such thinkers is that if they want to reduce the global population they should measure up to their words and go first.



FWIW the other method ain't working too shit hot either when it comes to AGW....not that it'll make a lick of difference, we have already shit the bed and simply have not become aware of the fact yet...
A) hes a complete hipocrite
B) if you gave him a button to push, he wouldn't have the stones to do it
Waving flag:
http://capital3x.com/think-tank/news-till-now/
it does take a village of idiots, i see
Agenda 21.
http://www.amazon.com/BEHIND-THE-GREEN-MASK-Agenda/dp/0615494544
I wish this was just tinfoil hat @hit, but alas me thinks not.
HAHAHAHA Its on Mothe fucker!!!!!! It's him thats leaving though not me!!!!!!! I'm not afraid of that FREAK!!!!!!!!!
you might be when you come down from that high. . .
"if nature did not want us doing what we do nature would never have produced us. Nature is greater and smarter than we will probably ever be. I trust nature"
The author of this article is as delusional and dangerous as its fascist subject. You're both fucking wrong.
Calling all population control pundits: YOU FIRST!
the problem with ecofascists is not their ideas but that they have very little faith in the natural ecosolution enhanced by the need for men to kill other men for sex, money and food.
population collapse will happen when the time is right by natural means and/or as the oops factor from some really stupid man made event like radiation poisoning.
Dude combs his hair with a feral cat. And his BO? Jesus!!
He looks like a raging alcoholic with an oxy problem...useless eater.
His Ideas:
1) No immigration
2) Downsize population
3) Kill defectives
4) Stop rampant technology
My Idea:
Eliminate Pentti Linkola
The Finn's are releasing their mentally ill out the institutions and giving them a soapbox.
Would recommend watching 'The Air War Over Finland' to get half an idea of the politics in Finland. The swastikas painted on the Hurricanes are not to be missed:
http://youtu.be/HLW9vFJ6qa8
One of which was flown by an american pilot seconded from the RAF, funny old world............
He's right, of course. Except 500 million is too many humans.
I wonder if he includes himself in the 500 mil?
Huxleys lost twin?
I wonder if this kook bid on the UnaBomber's property and cabin?
Lead by example is what I say. Him first.
Ollie Rehn and now this guy?
Would have been intresting to hear my grandfathers take on Finland of today.
A few "saatana, perkele and kusipaa" would have found it's way there and he did not like bad lanquage.
But still, this guy is a joke, Mr Rehn on the other hand is really a disgusting piece of EU BS.
That he dares to go back to Finland on his first class flights shows at least some guts.
Thank you & brgds
Who cares what he says. He looks like he sniffs glue all day long. No wonder he's a nutjob.
[paste]: Nor does he seem to have any appreciation for the concept that humans are a product of and part of nature; if nature did not want us doing what we do nature would never have produced us.
this is correct, imo; [not the ad hominem which is really directed at a common error: that we can say "nature" and understand each other, basically, at this point]
so: what the hell is "nature" trying to do by "producing us"? is there a purpose? a "teleology"?
and let us recall the profligacy involved with natural processes: one sperm out of how many gets thru? what is nature trying to do with any of this, here on this living globe?
and remember, about 99% of all known species are now extinct already
that can't be right! are you shitting me?
Perhaps nature loves free markets and hates gay marriage.
And brown people.
maybe it is about love and hate and fight and flight and different races, b_dawg; after all, where else do these "realities" arise?
but, why? and how? we're up against it, here
and the eco-logues are upon us! wheeee!
p.s. focus on those questions or wish you did, BiCh!
he should start with himself.
I look like him. Time to get a haircut and shave.
Ask a goldfish in a bowl about infinite growth!
I doubt that Krugman's idea of fighting imaginary aliens is better than his.
Civilization has been always defining insanity as normality.
Well that settles it. I am going to fuck my wife right now and show this guy whose boss.
This guy sounds like an avatar of Stalin or Mao. Both of them exceeded Hitler's 6.5 million genocide by at least two digits.
I thought Ted Kaczynski was in jail!
He looks like Tony Blair with a beard. BTW, you're all just a bunch of pussies. He says what he wants, isn't that the point of freedom? He can't help the fact he's a loon.
Considering our current and recent national leaders in the US, he has a point.
In our experiment we dressed up the Petri dish to resemble a whacked-out Finnish fish monger. The lice were none the wiser and quickly began to call it home.
I actually find myself agreeing with him on some points; keep the population as it is and allow millions to starve
OR bring them all up to higher standards of living then watch the earth be raped as we give these millions/billions new houses
cars TeeVees, Washing machines, Androids and xboxes etc-that would really wreck the worlds resources
Earth is a living but finite resource
Our first step in population control ought to be eliminating the fascists then the environmentalist.
Not sure why everybody gets so fired up about the concept that the world is overpopulated.
Very simply, the only reason that there are 7 billion people on the planet is because we discovered and have burned fossil fuels. Plow and horse agriculture won't support 7 billion.
The concept that people should be able to breed at will and then, when they can't feed their progeny, depend on the gun-to-the-head welfare of others . . . is almost over.
Population will go down, with our without our consent.
This guy sounds like the rest of Obama supporters.
From a Nature point of view, I am waiting for someone to show me one (1) thing that human beings have contributed to the Earth that is in balance with Nature and is replicated by other species (other than a virus).
Humans are the most dangerous organism on Earth. Humans beings kill each other in mass and starve the rest. Any other species on Earth that does that? This is a Slave planet.
Humans will be extinct in the near future, by their own Nuclear means. There are no technologies created by humans that are sustainable. Not ONE. The experiment ends. And this clown Linkola is just another arrogant delusional human being. No shortage of them on the planet, until it ends.
Planet Earth is a self-correcting organism. The correction is here. We had our chance. We decided to split the atom and spend more money on weapons and wars than schools and a planetary bill of rights with common sense. What goes around, comes around.
Humans beings kill each other in mass and starve the rest. Any other species on Earth that does that?
If that were true, and it is not, then the population would decline or at least be stable. Just because a species can read and write does not mean it is exempt from the laws of natural selection. MANY species kill their own. Most in fact. Even creatures as close to us as bears which are on the level of primates will kill young bears in order to make sure that the female produce his own offspring. Right down to yeasts and molds, do you think mold exudes penicillin just so that one day an advanced race might cure VD with it? That chemical kills other molds on a WMD scale in their micro world in order to prevent competition for the nutrition medium they rest upon. A few killed every other living thing but the ones it did not kill it blended with to become symbiotic life forms, lichens for example, or corals. Both are examples of symbiotic life. Even man has a gut that cannot function without flora on the microscopic scale, if your gut was not filled and active with billions of cells of yeast and mold and microbes you would die in a matter of days.
...and is replicated by other species (other than a virus).
I saw a monkey pick up a cigarette and smoke it once does that count?
Why reduce the population to 500 billion when our nuclear capability can decrease it to 500? Will he also interfere in nature to restore any other imbalances in the animal kingdom?
If man oes not know what he is doing then let nature decide what do.
What's the deal with those " Scandinavians"? Light deprivation ,or Brain freeze?
Oh how scurry! I'm so scared I might vote for more antiterroristm legislation!
But somehow I'm more scared of the good people at the oil industry, the nuclear industry, the weapons industry, the financial industry, etc... For some reason I just can't pinpoint, they seem to be actually worse than this creep.
I do not believe that Linkola is an extremist central planner, far too intelligent for that wish list. I think he is merely coming to a methodical conclusion that we are all well and truely fucked by our own self centerdness
Does anyone doubt that this is precisely how TPTB talk when they think they are only with their own kind?
Does anyone doubt that this is precisely the agenda of many of the world's corporations and governments?
A nice, manageable little world.
Renew, Bitchez!!!!
Clearly this fuckwit fails his finals.
Chemtrails, HAARP, and Cesium 137 are here already.
Funny, but this guest post sounds like a response to comments made on a recent post on a Manosphere blog.
I believe the end of technological industrial civilization and mass human death will occur whether you like it or not. So you can start the transition and work toward a more sustainable lifestyle over the next few hundred years, or you can wait for resources to run low and watch a brutal, horrific and deadly crash that seems to come out of nowhere, or you can do nothing and wait for fascists like this guy to take care of it. It's up to you. But there are anarcho-primitivists who are not bat shit crazy. They see what's coming over the horizon and they know science is in no condition to save us. Unlike a fascist, however, an anarcho-primitivst like John Zerzan would teach more of an anarchistic, libertarian free society to follow civilization (think indigenous people, tribal culture), whereas a deep ecologist like Derrick Jensen would probably be more akin to the Finnish man's green-totalitarian ideals.
Hemp solves a lot of our pollution problems.
Georgia Guide Stones ...bitchez. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDiEANGgVlY
My final word is this, there is no way back. It was tried and did not work. There were the Luddites, did not work. There are the Amish, and even the Amish are not the hunter gathering type some here seem to think is our only hope, but the point is that if striving for more, for better, if that is banned then we are no more than an advanced version of primate animal and in that case the guy is right, killing billions of people is nothing more than culling a herd that got too big. There are many brilliant Amish, many good people among them, but to be exceptional is pretty much a crime, a challenge not only to all others in the community but to "god" himself, and to use your mind to create new and better ways to do things is strictly prohibited. You abide by tradition and religion no matter how stifling that is or you are gone. It is a very SMALL step from expulsion by exile to expulsion by murder, and when everything you love is in a community that does not want you there is very little difference anyway.
The only way is forward and outward, there will be great joy and great pain along the way, but going back just ain't an option. If it were up to me we most would live underground on the moon with domes of self healing glass-like plastics (already manufactured) for forests and farms on the surface, and the earth would be a gigantic natural zoo with no fences, a few resort cities of small area and high towers, and everyone would get to visit. None of these options is technologically impossible now. Economically difficult maybe, but not impossible.
Birth control would be practiced either voluntarily to maintain a population expansion that can be comfortably accommodated if at all, and if not voluntarily then involuntarily, pre or post conception. It would be pretty easy with modern technology to make reproduction a more or less perfect science, simply remove all testes and ovaries at onset of puberty, they will contain enough eggs and more than enough sperm will be in them to have two kids, bad eggs and bad sperm with defects can be eliminated. No more than that allowed without paying a really high price for a third or more. Not that one could not have more, but that it should not be done and if you do it you go into the proposition knowing you will pay the planet and the rest of the population for the effects of having done so for all the generations to come. In other words reproduction beyond that needed to maintain the species would be prohibited, with any right to more sold at a very high price, one that would hurt even Mark Zuckerberg.
And the final FINAL word is that this guy and those of you who agree with him do so out of hate and fear, negative emotions, either self loathing that carries over to others (not a good thing at all), or feelings of superiority (which in transactional analysis is the old I'm OK your NOT ok and that is even worse), when the only solution to our own and the planetary survival is going to be found with positive people, the rest of yourself can and should go hang yourself like this guy seems to think appropriate.
Kinda reminded me of Jack in "The Shining"
Freaky hair but the top button is buttoned...no need to look undignified.
In the picture he looks like he's just filled his pants and he can't wait to share it with someone. Hence, the microphone and ecofascist platform.
I think we should start the population reduction program with him.
People don't need as much as they think. My wife and I determined that if we had to worry only about our sustenance, we could get by on about $300 a month, maybe less if we got more creative (by today's dollar standard).
The problem arises because of extreme materialism. People think with all the technology we are somehow at the pinnacle of our evolution so far. Nothing could be further from the truth. We are at the rock bottom. It's like a drunk hitting bottom before he takes the step in sobering up.
Everything goes in cycles and right now we are at the end of a patriarchal rule that is tightly held together through materialism, ritual, religion, mind and ego. Cycles are everywhere throughout nature and history, and right now we are at the end point of a 26000 cycle and about to begin the journey back into the light (golden age); it's what the Mayans were talking about. They weren't talking about the end of the world but a specific alignment that happens once every 26000 years in the dark rift, and it signifies a turning point.
Linkola is like a representative of the dark, trying to hang on to the past, even to the point he is willing to encourage mass genocide of most humans. Just look at this sad fuck. Somebody ought to buy him a ticket for a month vacation in the tropics, where there is plenty of sunlight. Maybe he'd snap out of it.
Just one of your typical Obama voters:)
Just one of your typical Obama Czar's. And if you don't believe me just ask his regulatory czar Cass Sunstein who has a book called "Nudge" which talks about how to nudge people to a direction they don't want to go so one needs to "nudge" people who don't know what is good for them to where you want them to go.......by using government. These are ideological people who want to use the government as a force against the free people of this great country to live as slaves like the rest of the world is and is about to be unless we stop these people. What political party supports these people and this type of ideology? Which political ideology believes in manmade global warming and thinks we should use a carbon tax against every level of production to create a carbon exchange which is just another wall street scam/fraud? The answer is the political left. The left is the left for a reason. the political right believes in the constitution and free markets that give the individual their economic freedom. Simply put, it's Capitalism vs. collectivism.
In other words, stop supporting the political left because they want MORE Government and now do you see the folly of our ways.
Vote for those who will stand for the Constitution.
Live Free or DIE!
there should only be one video embedding site on the entire Internet. this way, everything will be properly understood. like a giant library, every body subscribes to.
thats how I like it and you should too.
I think this may be his son:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CArWivYt208
What he is really saying is that he wants to depopulate the planet and make it a better place by the nuclear or bacterial removal of people with black, brown or yellow skin or those who follow non christian religions, I can think of one religion in particular that people like him would like to remove from the face of the earth.
Depopulation doesn't apply to blonde haired, blue eyed white people, so what are you worrying about? You are safe until all the other 'undesirable' people have been removed, after that they will come for you.
Didn't the Khmer Rouge have a problem with technology and educated people who could challenge their warped ideology?
"...one religion in particular that people like him would like to remove from the face of the earth." Mormon? Please let it be Mormon. Or those guys in dresses in Rome?
I am not religious as you all know, in fact I never cease to be amazed at the gullibility and outright antisocial attitudes of those claiming religious adherence. But I will say this, if there is any truth to the god fairytales then lesson one of your bible is that it is up to god to decide if and when to do something about the population. And lesson two is that the one thing the old bastard hates more than anything else is someone usurping his judgement. Don't believe me? Ask Lucifer next time you see him, which will probably be the next time you enter a sanctuary of organized religion.
Normally, I dislike comments based on someone's physical appearance, but damn, I look at this guy and I can hear dueling banjos. Momma got boinked at the family reunion. Let's start the culling with him just to right the wrong done here. *shiver*