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Guest Post: Fear And Fear

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From Peter Tchir of TF Market Advisors

Fear and Fear

Correlations are breaking down, and each asset class seems to be trading more and more in its own little world.  Sometimes retaining old correlations and other times moving counter-intuitively.  Each of those markets now seem to be driven primarily by fear.  The markets have been split into two camps, those that are afraid of rallies and those that are afraid of sell-offs.  The breakdown of many correlations is making it harder to hedge or to balance portfolios.  It is adding the broken feeling in the market.

Normally the markets are portrayed as a battle between fear and greed, but more and more it looks like greed left town and all we have is fear.  Fears of rallies, fears of sell-offs, and fears that someone knows something that you don't, fears of jobs, fears of tap on the shoulder, fears on redemptions, fears that the summer is almost over and you didn't enjoy it, and worst of all, the fear that your starting quarterback will be injured and the team will sign Brett Favre. 


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Wed, 08/24/2011 - 12:10 | 1595428 Waffen
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Fear Bitchez!!


Did I do it right?

Wed, 08/24/2011 - 12:12 | 1595435 oogs66
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with that avatar, you can do no wrong

Wed, 08/24/2011 - 12:17 | 1595459 Stoploss
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I fear no booby.

Wed, 08/24/2011 - 12:42 | 1595571 Falcon15
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You did it right, now all we need is O'Bottom Our POSPOTUS to get on the toob and recycle a little of FDR and make a mark - other than the skids in his drawers - "All we have to fear is fear itself".

I am long on semiprecious metals - lead, steel, and brass, food, and phyzz. Bring it!

Got preps? Pray for the best, prepare for the worst.

Wed, 08/24/2011 - 12:12 | 1595433 moon_121
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What else is greed than fear to miss the big one? Fear rules!

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Wed, 08/24/2011 - 12:12 | 1595434 twinshot
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Wed, 08/24/2011 - 12:12 | 1595436 molecool
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Pure mental masturbation - trading correlations has always been a bad idea. They work until they do not. For instance take the TNX - that one worked for decades and then loosened.

I am not saying there is no fear but that is always present and the thoughts conveyed in this post are meaningless.

Wed, 08/24/2011 - 12:30 | 1595506 Shell Game
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I think it is meaningful.  Sentiment is a significant part of the market.  When the VIX is high do you ignore it, or factor it in?

Wed, 08/24/2011 - 12:34 | 1595438 MichaelG
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OT, but the correlation between this link:

Make sure to read our "How To [Read/Tip Off] Zero Hedge Without Attracting The Interest Of [Human Resources/The Treasury/Black Helicopters]" Guide

and the guide itself also seems to be borked.

Wed, 08/24/2011 - 12:13 | 1595439 ZeroPower
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Despite the rally, Itxx Xover still being bid at All is well, all is well.

Wed, 08/24/2011 - 12:14 | 1595443 TideFighter
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All minor worries and qualms, until you get to that Favre thing, then panic fear sets in.

Wed, 08/24/2011 - 12:14 | 1595446 piceridu
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Just heard a rumor that B of A 's Board just signed Favre.

Wed, 08/24/2011 - 12:15 | 1595450 John Law Lives
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"It is adding the broken feeling in the market."

That is an understatement.

It really is a pity that we have a Chairsatan who is punishing savers and creating conditions that urge a "risk on" mentality re. equities just to stay ahead of real inflation.  It is theft of the highest degree (imo).

Wed, 08/24/2011 - 12:29 | 1595504 theMAXILOPEZpsycho
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I'm just amazed people still actually save cash. If anything this crowed deserve to get their asses handed to them even more than the equity crowed. That said, with the save save no risk mentality it can't be long before they convert their fiats into whatever PMs they can still get for them (ie over the next 2 years)

Wed, 08/24/2011 - 12:16 | 1595453 GFKjunior
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Love the smell of volatility in the morning.

Wed, 08/24/2011 - 12:16 | 1595455 John Law Lives
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Home Prices Decline 5.9% in Second Quarter:

QE is a failure re. housing and employment.

Wed, 08/24/2011 - 12:16 | 1595456 dcb
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I made some comments of this nature yesterday on a post.

Wed, 08/24/2011 - 12:16 | 1595457 tawdzilla
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When stocks trade higher on bad news (because everyone expects QE to the rescue), something is terribly wrong.

Wed, 08/24/2011 - 12:18 | 1595462 Azannoth
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The only people left in the trading business are those who manage Other ppl money as they have 'nothing' to loose

Not even Soros wants to thouch this market and is 75% cash

Wed, 08/24/2011 - 12:18 | 1595464 PulauHantu29
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"The bank delays have left homes in the delinquency process longer. U.S. homeowners facing foreclosure averaged 587 days without making a mortgage payment in June, up from 251 days in January 2008, according to Lender Processing Services Inc. (LPS), a real estate information company in Jacksonville, Florida."


"Financially troubled condo associations are taking banks to court as foreclosure delays enable delinquent homeowners to stay in their buildings for years, often without paying dues that keep boards running. The groups start by pressuring lenders to speed up home seizures and take over payment of the monthly fees. In extreme situations, like the Vintage East case, associations may force banks to give up rights to the property."

Wed, 08/24/2011 - 12:24 | 1595485 CPL
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This has been happening in Florida quite a bit.  It's one thing when a couple homes are empty and condo fees for retirement camps are $100 a month.  It's another thing when 50-70% of the places are empty and condo fees are $300.  For people living on limited incomes it turns into a famine situation that only offers the option of nursing homes or a cardboard box on street corner.

Wed, 08/24/2011 - 12:19 | 1595467 Long-John-Silver
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I have no fear because Gold (and Silver) never go to zero.

Wed, 08/24/2011 - 12:24 | 1595487 raki_d
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You mean paper gold?

Wed, 08/24/2011 - 12:35 | 1595526 Long-John-Silver
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Only Physical. Paper Gold is only paper.

Wed, 08/24/2011 - 12:40 | 1595556 V in PA
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Nice avatar! I started to reach for the screen.

Wed, 08/24/2011 - 12:31 | 1595515 theMAXILOPEZpsycho
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someone who bought silver in 1980 and sold in 2000 might give you reason to fear!

Wed, 08/24/2011 - 12:44 | 1595573 dwdollar
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America in 1980 wasn't completely gutted economically, had a relatively low GDP/debt ratio, and still had the political will to properly fight inflation.  Does America of 2012 have that capacity?

Wed, 08/24/2011 - 13:02 | 1595675 gmrpeabody
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Stop trying to make sense!

Wed, 08/24/2011 - 12:20 | 1595469 slaughterer
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What is there to fear?  QE3 is coming!   

Wed, 08/24/2011 - 12:30 | 1595508 kito
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no need for qe3 now that Hurricane "Fiscal Stimulus" is heading up the east coast, potentially whipping into manhattan at 100mph. this is the early christmas present krugman has been waiting for. better than aliens. lots of destruction and rebuilding!!! will pull us right out of this funk!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wed, 08/24/2011 - 12:34 | 1595522 InconvenientCou...
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looting should take down inventories a bit. Maybe GM dealers should leave the keys in the ignition?

Wed, 08/24/2011 - 12:59 | 1595659 glenlloyd
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naw, wouldn't do any good, their insurer would just reject the claim because they could have gotten them back via onstar.

remember.....everyone's watching!

Wed, 08/24/2011 - 13:15 | 1595751 Mesquite
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Shades of Katrina...?? (Only more efficient...)

Wed, 08/24/2011 - 12:22 | 1595472 Awakened Sheeple
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Headline on CNBS:

"Favre rides into NYSE on Lawn Tractor, Stocks Rally."

Wed, 08/24/2011 - 12:22 | 1595476 gwar5
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Fear and Loathing.......  Really big casinos bitches.



Wed, 08/24/2011 - 12:50 | 1595610 Oh regional Indian
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There you go gwar. It's not fear and fear but Fear and Loathing. Nice. And like someone said upthread, greed is just fear of missing out or getting less than we deserve.


Wed, 08/24/2011 - 13:54 | 1595915 tip e. canoe
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"There was every reason to believe I was heading for trouble, that I'd pushed my luck a bit far. I'd abused every rule Vegas lived by—burning the locals, abusing the tourists, terrifying the help. The only hope now, I felt, was the possibility that we'd gone to such excess, with our gig, that nobody in a position to bring the hammer down on us could possibly believe it . . . When you bring an act into this town, you want to bring it in heavy. Don't waste any time with cheap shucks and misdemeanors. Go straight for the jugular. Get right into felonies. The mentality of Las Vegas is so grossly atavistic that a really massive crime often slips by unrecognized."  ~ HST

Wed, 08/24/2011 - 12:25 | 1595494 Shell Game
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Funny how much less fear one has when awake to reality and heavily hedged with tangibles and a DIY mentality.

Wed, 08/24/2011 - 12:26 | 1595497 GD
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This chaotic market is setting up for a major flush, panic event is all broken-down and fragmented, will continue shorting on strength, while sitting on the toilet..

Wed, 08/24/2011 - 12:26 | 1595498 Zymurguy
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VIX has taken a strong u-turn today... taking off to new and exciting heights!

Wed, 08/24/2011 - 12:30 | 1595505 TradingJoe
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fear to be greedy! fear to control greed! greed fears to lose! and so on! Point on these "markets": chose one side and stick with it! For some Fear is QE3 ..etc isn't coming, for others Greed is because they think QE3 ...etc IS coming! We'll see who'se right in 2 days! Anyuthing else is just NOISE!

Wed, 08/24/2011 - 12:30 | 1595507 MayIMommaDogFac...
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You've got -- that Broken Feelin'
Woah, that Broken Feelin'

Wed, 08/24/2011 - 12:32 | 1595514 InconvenientCou...
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Banks solid green and gold being liquidated. Yea, that's a big bowl of dissonance.

For that matter, banks solid green in isolation is a turd in the champagne fountain. Not buying that for a millisecond. Could it be as simple as the ECB shutting the fuck up? naaa.

More more bank-friendly accounting changes coming? Banks colluding on ratings and stock buy backs? This is one of those times that the conspiracy theory seems most likely.

One thing is for certain, the Fed and G7 CB's can't fix everything and people are going to figure that out very soon.

Musical chairs --let's get on with it.

Wed, 08/24/2011 - 16:01 | 1596393 unununium
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Death events coming and TPTB need better levels to short from.

Wed, 08/24/2011 - 12:34 | 1595521 Raymond Reason
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Soteriophobia: Fear of dependence on others. 

Wed, 08/24/2011 - 12:45 | 1595584 V in PA
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Soetorophobia: Fear your leaders will make you dependent on others.

Wed, 08/24/2011 - 13:21 | 1595777 slewie the pi-rat
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soteriology = the study of religious doctrines of salvation...

...and by implication (?) where this study leads once one exhausts the possibilities via the "intellect" ?

mr ray_0_reason:  doya think this "fear" is conditioned by the flying spaghetti monster doctrine of the orthodox evolution-preaching "scientists" even thogh you may not have a freaking clue what you are writing about here? 

just sayin

and, if fear has eclipsed greed in the yingyang markets of today, who do we see it neither in Chanel sales nor @ Kohl's? 

answer:  nannies have no fear b/c the "feminist leadership" has conditioned them to believe they must win, b/c they hate people with penises, even the insignificant worms to whom whey may be married if they haven't cashed that ticket, yet

maybe we shld rename 9.11.11 "fukanannyintheassday"

Wed, 08/24/2011 - 13:31 | 1595825 slewie the pi-rat
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i decided to do chertoff @ the anniversary of The Remembrance Of The Martyrs and got ticket #6,667 and the post isn't even 10 minutes old!

i wonder who is in front of me?

Wed, 08/24/2011 - 12:36 | 1595529 fyrebird
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For about 100 years, people have had a really strong feeling that they knew what they were doing. That it was progesss, and it could only go one direction in the long run -- UP.

It's not so much that this market is broken, or that greed is missing. What's missing now is the assertion that anyone knows what they are doing anymore, or that progress is immutable, or that things can only go generally up.

The financial class had a nice run. 100 years. Not as long as the Romans, but not bad. Not bad for a Ponzi game, anyway

Say goodbye to that. Greed is not coming back -- at least not like that -- and if it does it will be greeted with a rope and a noose. Becasue people would rather live their lives than have them destroyed out from under them.

Wed, 08/24/2011 - 12:37 | 1595533 hedgeless_horseman
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Speaking of fear, Chilean riots? 
Paging Sovereign Man and Do Cheng Rolling Bearing...WTF?

Wed, 08/24/2011 - 12:55 | 1595636 fyrebird
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many ordinary Chileans feel that they are not reaping the benefits of economic prosperity.

Sounds like some of our financial overlords have been at work over there, too. Interesting the disparity in response, tho. I guess the propaganda machine is not doing its job over there.

Wed, 08/24/2011 - 13:02 | 1595676 slewie the pi-rat
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Wed, 08/24/2011 - 12:38 | 1595537 sudzee
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Everybody on Wall Street knows its a ponzi. All sitting on the edge of their set waiting to be the first guy out the minute CNBS put up bad news story that they can't manipulated to look good. Real weath has gone underground and the only thing left is paper, ink and a bit of fairy dust. When reality sets in nobody wants to be the guy to turn out the light.

Wed, 08/24/2011 - 12:41 | 1595560 topshelfstuff
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A little help Please with a response. Is anyone, maybe everyone, experiencing the same thing I am, and I just missed it being a Topic, or is it just me somehow glitched and stock on 8/21. For the past few days I thought ZeroHedge had ceased updating. Every time I  clicked on the Homepage here I got to see the same page of 8/21/11 ( I'll paste the last Time that a post shows along with the 3 articles that show on the top of page). This morning I noticed that, indeed, ZH was working, and I only know this because I have subscribed to have it fed to my Yahoo page.
Even now I can read what's here, but when I click on "HOME" to get a Refresh, I get sent back to the same page of 8/21/11, likes its frozen at that time.
So, is it just me, or is it anyone and/or every one else? Thank You

This is what I see:
the 3 articles on the top page:

08-21 11:37: they will manufacture war and (vast-dom) 08-21 11:36: Sadly, we have to remember (WestVillageIdiot)

08-21 11:36: From a layman's point of (falak pema)

Top Topic on the Homepage:

Guest Post: Need for Economic Crimes’ Nuremberg-Type Trials

[ latest time a post shows, Sun, 08/21/2011 - 17:16 ]

Wed, 08/24/2011 - 12:48 | 1595603 mr. mirbach
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That has always been an issue with NetScape Navigator - clear your cache.

Wed, 08/24/2011 - 13:05 | 1595694 Louise1
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I have firefox and it is happening to me too, only on one laptop. all else is fine

Wed, 08/24/2011 - 13:50 | 1595900 Use of Weapons
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To both of you:

Safari :

Firefox :


Seriously, duckduckgo or google is your friend.


You can also do this - just be advised that this will remove any automatically remembered data (i.e. passwords etc) you have for sites - but it is good sense to do it anyway

Tools > Options > Privacy > Show Cookies > Remove all cookies.



Wed, 08/24/2011 - 14:28 | 1596052 slewie the pi-rat
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jeeez, dude!  what's a luddite to do?

i prefer to sweep with anti-SPYWARE software which has a Perform Custom Scan: Cookies option that takes about 3 seconds, maybe 10 if the spyware had been botted in by somebody we trust, like ORI, for example, for those of you who think "visiting" his site must me harmless b/c he's, like, a real spiritual person...

if the swami of self-propagananda-Vi-whatever his name is, today, hasn't already turned off the bot downloader after slewie's first "asswipe-advisory" post, earlier, b/c hundredz of his "peeps" saw it here and e-mailed it to him, immediately, of couse...

slewie's first rule for dealing w/ trolls:  if you are styoooopid enuf to visit any site advertized on these strings, do not "register" with your real e-mail, and wipe your ass with an anti-spyware cookie scan 3-4 times while there and afterward, of course, before you wash your hands and, possibly, vomit projectiles, too...TPTB which pull his strings and also contol his site, remotely, (from shangri-lala land, of course) may refuse to pay him for the "hit", but that's his problem, not yours

of course if you visit one of tyler's remote-controlled adverizers and order an "introductory gold" offer or anything else, really, with yer debit card and have it sent to you at your home address,  why bother?

but, it's FUN to click-click-click and make new "friends" isn't it?

Wed, 08/24/2011 - 16:27 | 1596460 Use of Weapons
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All sound advice. Free options Avast, Spybot Search&Destroy, Zonealarm are the bare minimum for surfing. A browser that isn't IE of course helps.

Multiple posts refer to the adverts here, which I never see - but given it is revenue for ZH, I'm not printing a guide on quasi-anonymous surfing. [I have offset this downturn in profits, so have a clear conscience]



Thu, 08/25/2011 - 00:06 | 1598117 StychoKiller
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Quit shootin' yerself, lose the Windoze™ OS you're running!

Wed, 08/24/2011 - 14:01 | 1595930 slewie the pi-rat
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it happened to me a few daze ago and i kinda thought it might be due to sac working on things, like the up/down voting or something like that as he or she or they re-built the site onto the new serverZ

i'll not say what i use, and why,  for security reasons, but i was posting like a banshee at the time and my posts would not appear when i hit SAVE.  then when i back-clicked on the page and hit Reload the page wld update and then i cld see my post, which by then i wanted to edit of course, and when i finished editing and hit SAVE, would get the old, un-edited version and wld Reload and see that i still needed to edit...

i may have been a bit cranky by the time i just said fukit and logged out

5 minutes later when i logged back on, it wasn't happening anymore

or was that the next day???????

maybe fear + fear = risk off, now, and fear + greed = risk on, whereas a few weeks ago the risk on/off switch was due to synchronized mouth-breathing at the PPT which looks to have lassoed the ape-shit steer named FiatTornado and as their champion quarterhorse, PrimaryDealer, with the cute appy patch on its ass drops that patch down on the cue to slam on the binders, the rider named Pecos FED from jackson hole, WY,  flies to grab the horns of the dilemma and...

...oh!  ...the humanity! 

Thu, 08/25/2011 - 00:08 | 1598122 StychoKiller
StychoKiller's picture  haz the look'n'feel of Windoze™, WITHOUT all the attendant headaches!

Wed, 08/24/2011 - 12:53 | 1595621 smiler03
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I'm having a near identical problem but with 3 completely different articles.

Business Lessons From a Pastry Chef

The Great Collapse Has Officially Begun
On EU banks, Solvency or Liquidity? - Or BOTH?

My RSS feed also stopped working well over a week ago and I can't get it to work anywhere except my Google home page.

Wed, 08/24/2011 - 13:01 | 1595671 smiler03
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Update: I use Windows 7 & Chrome. A cache clear sorted it out, many thanks to Mr.Mirbach ;O)

RSS feed is stil buggered though.

Wed, 08/24/2011 - 13:02 | 1595679 fyrebird
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I recommend you install Chrome and try browsing with that just to see if it makes any difference. It's always a good idea to have multiple browsers installed anyway, never know which one will work best in a given situation.

Wed, 08/24/2011 - 12:43 | 1595572 LookingWithAmazement
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Failed recent predictions:

* QE3 leads to gold/silver skyrocket - on the contrary, stocks will
* New debt ceiling leads to US default - not
* End of QE2 leads to US default cause nobody will buy bonds - nuff said
* S&P downgrade leads to dump bonds - no, run into bonds
* The Chavez-effect - will not dismantle the fractional-gold system, but leads to an easy sell-off and correct delivery of the gold

The doomprophets can sleep a few months more, as the euphoria over QE3 runs its course. Buy some gold in the meantime. Boring world we live in.

Wed, 08/24/2011 - 12:52 | 1595585 SheepDog-One
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Sorry, no QE3, well not in the form equity market junkies expect anyway.

Wed, 08/24/2011 - 12:55 | 1595580 buzzsaw99
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I have reliable inside information that MS will be bought out by JPM very soon. [/plant story]

Wed, 08/24/2011 - 12:48 | 1595596 LookingWithAmazement
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Addendum 1:
* End of QE2/new debt ceiling/downgrade leads to higher interest rates (and, you guessed it, "US default") - anyone seen them somewhere?

Boring world we live in.

Wed, 08/24/2011 - 12:50 | 1595611 SheepDog-One
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Kicking the can hour to hour, no big deal when the FED itself now owns all the treasuries and stocks. Only thing youve got to wonder is what their endgame is? Coming soon.

Wed, 08/24/2011 - 13:17 | 1595620 raki_d
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PimFox on bloomberg just stated (stolen) a few exact lines from this post.. Talking abt "fear of rally" " fear of sell-offs" "missing correlations" in the market

Wed, 08/24/2011 - 13:05 | 1595698 TahoBilly
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The heart has two masters, fear and love. It is constantly filled with some percentage of each, say 50%-50% or 90%-10%. Fear comes from the need for "fight or flight" which nature designed for survival needs. Love comes from the very essence of life and another survival need, the need to cooperate. I guess you could say the markets are in "fight or flight" mode rather the need to cooperate. These are my own thoughts, untested by any actual study.

Wed, 08/24/2011 - 13:06 | 1595700 TahoBilly
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The heart has two masters, fear and love. It is constantly filled with some percentage of each, say 50%-50% or 90%-10%. Fear comes from the need for "fight or flight" which nature designed for survival needs. Love comes from the very essence of life and another survival need, the need to cooperate. I guess you could say the markets are in "fight or flight" mode rather the need to cooperate. These are my own thoughts, untested by any actual study.

Wed, 08/24/2011 - 14:07 | 1595969 kahunabear
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All assets suck and are to be shorted. Gold, dollar, stocks, bonds, oil, etc.

Wed, 08/24/2011 - 15:00 | 1596182 IMA5U
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and the market will rally because that's the pain trade right now

Wed, 08/24/2011 - 15:06 | 1596206 IMA5U
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get ready kids


time for that final hour volumeless rally so pundits can say...

Asian and European markets continue to rally on Fed Stimullus

Wed, 08/24/2011 - 16:31 | 1596476 JohnFrodo
Wed, 08/24/2011 - 19:49 | 1597349 Ident 7777 economy
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"-the-world-is-a-mess" Well, if anybody should have a 'lock' on that it _would_ be the HuffPo ... what's AOL/HuffPo stock doing?


Half what it was less than a yr ago:


Wed, 08/24/2011 - 17:43 | 1596840 IMA5U
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Hence there can be a market for cigarettes in correctional facilities,
another for chewing gum in a playground, and yet another for contracts
for the future delivery of a commodity.If anything this crowed deserve to get their asses handed to them even more than the equity crowed. Thanks.


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