Guest Post: Former Marine Arrested For Patriotic Posts On Facebook

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Submitted by Brandon Smith from Alt-Market

Former Marine Arrested For Patriotic Posts On Facebook

First the establishment started going after current serving military men for their outspoken political views on Facebook and other web venues, men like Marine Sergeant Gary Stein.  Now, it seems the government is going after veterans as well.  This is the classic pattern of a burgeoning totalitarian state; attack a small group first (outspoken serving military) which the public ignores because it affects them little personally, then slowly expand out to eventually include everyone else.  To all those insipid bottom feeders out there who refused to defend Gary Stein's right to free speech, here is what you have wrought.  Because of your ignorance, the government has been able to set a social precedent which they now plan to apply to a whole new group of people, starting with former Marine Brandon Raub.  The common statist slave will give the typical coward's response, which would sound a little something like this:

"...When are people going to learn that Facebook isn't private?  You would have to be stupid to express such views where everyone can see..."

"They didn't arrest him, they just 'detained' him..."

"He's former military and should be 'ashamed' of his comments against the government., blah blah blah, etc..."

The bottom line is, the 1st Amendment is NOT conditional.  ALL speech must be protected, no matter who you are, or where you happen to be speaking.  Just because our current criminal government decides 1st Amendment protections do not apply to Facebook does not mean they have the authority to make such distinctions.  In fact, the Constitution explicitly outlines how they are restricted from making such distinctions.  If a government entity, ANY government entity, attempts to violate Constitutional restrictions, it must be removed by any means necessary.

Take note that the FBI used the accusation of "terrorist threats" by Brandon Raub as an excuse for the arrest even though there is no indication that any actual threats were present on his Facebook page..

(Brandon's comments included observations that 9-11 was done by the government (even going to such length, and an interestingly detailed thesis, of providing evidence to augment this), the War on Terror is a lie, Americans are killing innocent people in the ME, the current federal banking system is corrupt and unfeasible to Americans, and that the George Bush's family rapes little children)

http://www.salem-news.com/articles/august192012/marine-fakcebook-arrest-t.php

I would say that all of these claims have enough circumstantial evidence behind them to warrant a serious independent investigation, and even if they didn't, there is no law against "conspiracy theory", at least not yet...

The police and FBI also failed to read Raub his Miranda Rights. Could this be one of the first public instances of the enforcement of NDAA detainment provisions against a U.S. citizen as a so called "domestic terrorist"?  You know, those detainment provisions that Neo-Cons and Neo-Libs alike claim "don't exist"?

My question for the statist slaves is, how soon will it be before they get to you?  Do you really believe your complacency and apathy will save you?  Has that kind of philosophy saved any slave under any other tyranny of the past?  This is NOT a free country anymore, and if we do not act to defend each individual who suffers under the weight of bureaucratic oppression, then everyone will lose everything.  It is time to pick a side.

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YuropeanImbecille's picture

that is what happens when you embrace Socialism! so blame yourselves.. If you wave a flag here you go to jail for hateful behaviour.

Acet's picture

I am trully dazzled and convinced by the dept, clarity and toughtfullness of your argument.

You sir, have removed my blindness: before reading your post I would never be able to make the connection between a political system that believes in greater equality and a social net for everybody and the current American administration arresting people for saying what they think using laws passed by both main parties, but now I can see clearly the link /sarc

I suggest you research Totalitarianism - you'll find it's quite independent of left-wing or right-wing.

Popo's picture

What is *does* prove is that Facebook is dangerous stuff, and that people's accounts are being actively watched.

Fortunately I post most of my government criticism here on Zerohedge where no gubmint types would ever lurk, troll or post...

... Er... Right?

*** NO SIGNAL ***

LetThemEatRand's picture

Yes, with no warrant.  That is the real story here.  We have big brother watching and recording us all and if they think we cross the line, they fucking arrest us for speech they do not like.  That is not a free society.

Sudden Debt's picture

yes, but he's just detained for life... nothing to see here people, you walk along... OR YOU WILL ALSO BE DETAINED FOR THE NEXT 48 years!!!!*

* unless you're younger than 18, than it's 68 years....

LetThemEatRand's picture

The noose is indeed tightening.  Take the out in the open constant surveillance of citizens together with the executive repeal of Habeas Corpus (e.g., the President or his minions can declare anyone a terrorist unilaterally, and they lose all rights under the Constitution just like that), and it starts to look like there really is a grand plan to convert this country into a Chinese type society where "dissenters" disappear in the night.

malikai's picture

They took this guy in broad daylight. And they will pretend that they have just stopped the next Charles Whittman.

CompassionateFascist's picture

Who the hell is "they"? You mean Zionist Occupation Government. Where Patriots=Palestinians.

Paul Atreides's picture

The first alternative media publicized NDAA home soil arrest for exercising the first amendment.

This is the sign you and I have all been waiting for.

I finished my preps over this weekend and I truly hope the good people here on ZH are all as ready as I am. Keep your heads down, don't stick your neck out and most important protect your family and neighbors.

Casus Belli

Surly Bear's picture

I am surprised at the lack of understanding regarding the UCMJ: He volunteered. He is subject to the military code, and as such he forfeits his rights under the civilian code. He does not have the right to remain silent, and must give any and all evidence material to the investigation. THIS is why you do not volunteer.

robobbob's picture

The UCMJ extends to after your date of separation?

Seer's picture

Ha!  Caught Surly Bear with his pants down!  Amazing how horribly biased people are, to the point of NOT bothering to analyze the FACTS (as presented in the article) before spouting off (showing their TRUE colors).

Anyway... as a former Marine myself, and as someone who is rather outspoken, I see the noose tightening.  Fuck 'em.  Nooses don't work on Leathernecks!

May the ghosts of Generals [USMC] Smedley Butler and David Shoup haunt today's bastards!

3rdgrader's picture

And I thought that I was the only one that caught shit for posting crap on Fecebook.

FEDbuster's picture

They are testing the waters in their backyard, Virgina.  This is the first NDAA case, renditioned to a hospital psych ward against his will for Facecrap posts??   This shit needs to be nipped in the bud.   Thankfully there is an alt. media out there to expose this crap.  When they shut down or censor the web, then the info will be harder to come by.

New_Meat's picture

+1 on David Shoup, tough bastard that he was. S/F - Ned

The Big Ching-aso's picture

 

 

Civilian AWOL.   Absent Without Lawyer.

 

Ben Dover's picture

Not sure of how it is now as opposed to back when, but was he in the IRR and did that come in to play here? (I honestly don't know).

OldPhart's picture

As a former Marine they should have come for me back in 2009.

Benjamin Glutton's picture

A "Former Marine" is not bound by UCMJ.

New_Meat's picture

Surly Bear: four legs good, but you don't know shit about the UCMJ.  Only part ya got right is the forfeit rights under the civilian code.  However, given the judiciary, the lines are so blurred that enemy prisoners of war are granted righst that exceed those of AMCITS.

And, no, this is why YOU didn't volunteer.

- Ned

{... has a taste that ...}

{{but we know, that the buck stops with YOU!}}

AldousHuxley's picture

when you join the military, you get the right to kill other human beings and get paid. downside is that you lose civilian freedoms and pentagon can treat you like a pawn.

 

more white trash welfare recipients should serve in the military and kill off before they produce more ignorant idiots in the south.

WeAreJellyfish's picture

Yea - and reward all nepotismic activities for the most valued celebrities of name and stature?

 

Why not get those that want to go to war FIGHT the war themselves.  Then make a reality show of white trash watching the rich eat each other.

 

Talk about the best thing that could happen for the economy AND getting to the root of fixing the nagging AH is made of.

AldousHuxley's picture

yes....let republicans pay their own war tax....

but how many republicans want to cut "defense" spending???? no more than democrats who want to cut welfare....

 

Iraq war was $3,000,000,000,000+

 

Whiner's picture

It will be mainly the men of the South who will protectect your effeminate, elitist ass when TSHF. It is not in Dixie where the collectivists roam. They are clustered in your northern universities, your unions, your burned out- bankrupt, corrupt cities. Then again maybe you are a left coast lefty.

AldousHuxley's picture

You think Russians and Chinese are scared of southern rednecks?

 

"effeminate" scientists who developed nukes are what they are really afraid of. They both have plenty of disposable idiots. They do not have American military technology developed by high IQ men.

 

this is what I'm talking about. Americans think bunch of thugs are what makes a men....leader like .....you know they have plenty of warlords in Africa. muscles don't make men.....character and brains is what builds nations.

 

 

god damn hicks. go get some education.

sun tzu's picture

go fuck your mother then kill the bitch for not flushing after she shit your sorry ass out

RafterManFMJ's picture

Um, why would you protect them? If you're in my unit you will not protect them; do so and you'll be standing tall before the man.

Seer's picture

Back when I joined it was clearly voluntary.  Today, however, the "voluntary" part is highly questionable.  Careful of what you wish for as it's a slippery slope... and I wouldn't wish ANY war on ANYONE.

AldousHuxley's picture

shitty education system and lack of job opportunities force many young men into "voluntary" military getting paid LESS than foreign mercenaries.

 

“Military men are dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns for foreign policy.” - Kissinger

 

don't get all mad when you are laid off from military (or what they call honorably discharged) with no civilian job with fucked up nightmares and broken limbs. ELITES DON'T CARE ABOUT YOUR PATRIOTISM.

 

Anusocracy's picture

Working men are dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns for domestic policy.

There, that covers everything.

CrockettAlmanac.com's picture

Who do you think you are, Axis Sally?

maxcody's picture

Huxley Berry,

To make SFC (E7) you must have at lest 2 years of College  a Major to get promoted must have a masters degree.  Also there are more college grads in the GOP than the

Party of the left - Dumocrats.

AldousHuxley's picture

"college" grads who major in bullshit?

half of colleges in US are profit centers ripping off the public.

 

2 year college = community college retard who couldn't go to 4 year college.

 

I mean god damn, George Bush the retard went to "college". so imagine those who didn't even make it.....

 

GOP the party who watches FOX and belives in Glenn Beck????

 democrats are not smart, but republicans have arrogant ignorants who are proud to be stupid.....too stupid to know that they are being exploited.

 

Go get yourself killed retard. Paris Hilton thanks you for allowing her to get richer.

 

 

 

Nikao7's picture

"2 year college = community college retard who couldn't go to 4 year college."

or possibly.....

2 year college = someone not as indebted as the one who pays way more for what are mostly useless degrees at a 4 year college???

perchprism's picture

What the hell is your problem, you fucking commie?  Why don't you just put yourself out of our misery, thanks.

AldousHuxley's picture

nobody is a communist today pal....even north korea has central banks and chinese style capitalism with slave labor.

 

you sound like zionist in Israel blaming muslims for the recent strings of self-immolations.

 

wait till the iraqi vets come home seeking jobs. jobs gone to china or illegal mexicans. what a way to thank a vet.

 

Moshe Silman,a member of a grassroots movement to lower the cost of living in Israel, self-immolated during a July 14 demonstration in Tel Aviv and died two weeks later.Left a note accusing Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's conservative government of "taking from the poor and giving to the rich"

Israel is Tibet now over her own citizens?

Ben Dover's picture

They may be in college but apparently that does not mean they are in the military (with honorable mention to all who went)

http://www.nhgazette.com/chickenhawks/

AldousHuxley's picture

This is the man who is going to get us into next war....

 

Mitt Romney ran off to Franch mansion during vietnam.

 

http://www.teamchickenhawk.com/index2.php

 

and I don't recall obama serving anywhere. He is happy house negro sending brothers into more wars.

 

even military is getting tired of chickenhawks in whitehouse. that's why young military voters are all for Ron Paul, who hates spending 50% of your taxes on military adventures.

WhiteNight123129's picture

AldousHuxley, being cynical about everything will lead you nowhere. Being condescending will not make you smarter I am afraid. The worst pollution that a corrupt regime can do is to soil the souls of its enemies, in that case they have won. There is randomness in everything, and you are randomly born within a certain area, with a random quantity of talent and disabilities, opportunities and misfortunes. That applies to you and I, if you fail to realize that you are disadvantaged I am afraid.

 

maxcody's picture

Plenty of all Trash in the North.  I have lived in the South, The West the North and

New England.  I founnd more trash in Philly, NYC, Boston than I have found in the South or West.

FreedomGuy's picture

Aldous, I like some of the things you post, but this is a bit beneath you. You do not get the right to kill other human beings. I suggest you have less of a right to kill than your local cop. You go to war. In war they try to kill you and you try to kill them first. You can argue about when it is right to go to war and it is a good debate. I believe you go to war in America only with a vote of Congress. Anything over a small police action like pirates or protecting Americans in a combat area requires it...like invading entire countries.

However, war is ostensibly two armed camps fighting each other. There are war crimes, too. You cannot line up the people in a village and shoot all of them...at least in Western armies. You cannot shoot your own people. You cannot shoot noncombatants of any type which is why modern guerillas and terrorists try to hide among civilians. They know this, too.

Being in the military is not a license to murder as you imply. You lose some amount of freedoms, generally just public comment while in uniform because the idea is to seperate the military from politics lest we become a third world country where the Army is the instrument of oppression for its own citizens. The second amendment helps to keep this balance, too.

Our military is volunteer and it is not white trash welfare recipients. It is all races. It is volunteers and it is honorable in its purpose. Whether or not the average soldies is a pawn is worth debating but the service is not.

Nikao7's picture

"It is volunteers and it is honorable in its purpose. "

In the mind of a thoroughly dumbed down typical AmeriBot.

AldousHuxley's picture

war in theory is honorable but it practice it is hell on earth.

defending your family against invasions is honorable.

but when people are sold on it using fear war is just a tool.

 

the fact is America will go to war. to get something for nothing. debtor countries go to war.

I hope I'm not dragged into catch 22...

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3q-XEl6Y34