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Guest Post: Fukushima - Local Children Unwitting (And Unwilling) Radioactive Guinea Pigs

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Submitted by John C.K. Daly of,


Seventeen months after the earthquake and tsunami that destroyed the Tokyo Electric Power Company’s six–reactor complex at its Fukushima Daiichi, discussions continue about the possible effects of the radiation “dusting” the prefecture’s inhabitants received, and their consequences.
Far outside most media coverage, 2012 is shaping up to be the media battleground between the massed proponents of the ongoing ‘safety’ of nuclear power, as opposed to a motley coalition of environmentalists, renegade nuclear scientists and anti-nuclear opponents, largely bereft of media contact.

The 11 March 2011 earthquake and tsunami double punch that effectively destroyed Tokyo Electric Power Company’s power plant complex has effectively become the newest “ground zero” in the debate over nuclear power. Advocates pro and con debate the implications of everything from the amount of damage to the release of radionuclides to the long term health effects on the Japanese population.
The stakes are high – quite aside from Japan’s multi-billion dollar investment in civilian nuclear energy, dating back to the 1960s, there remains the issues of Fukushima’s radioactive debris polluting neighbours.
All sides in the debate are playing for massive stakes, with the Japanese government and the nuclear industry broadly indicating the issue is under control. Accordingly, every issue from the amount of radiation released to the long term health consequences of the Fukushima disaster are subject to acrimonious debate.
That said, there is an involuntary irradiated “test” Fukushima group monitored since March 2011 displaying disturbing health abnormalities that may ultimately decide the debate, should the global media report it, forcing governments to debate its consequences.
The children of Fukushima.
The issue of nuclear radiation on human health cites besides Fukushima the August 1945 U.S nuclear bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki and the April 1986 explosion of the Chernobyl reactor complex in Ukraine, but in reality, there are no comparisons to evaluate Fukushima.
The 1945 U.S. Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombings were weapon “air bursts,” raising no nuclear debris from the ground. Furthermore, the Japanese medical establishment had no experience with the problem and when U.S. military forces arrived over a month later, information about the human cost of the bombings was censored for decades. Showing pictures of destroyed buildings, okay – showing victims with kimono patterns seared into their skin, no.
As for Chernobyl, the 26 April 1986 catastrophe represented a major black eye for Soviet General Secretary Mikhail Gorbachev’s “glasnost” policy. Thanks to the heroic efforts of Soviet emergency workers, the Chernobyl smoking nuclear roman candle burned for nine days before being extinguished.
In contrast, Fukushima Daiichi has been like a suppurating wound, leaching radionuclides into the environment since March 2011, and since then furious arguments have swirled about not only how much radiation Fukushima released, but the potential long term health consequences.
But both disputes ultimately devolve into pure speculation.
Only two months ago TEPCO stated that the Fukushima debacle may have released twice as much radioactivity than Japan’s government initially estimated.
Accordingly, how can anyone estimate long term health effects when actual exposure rates are unknown?
That said, scientists do have a well defined test group – the population of Fukushima Prefecture surrounding the stricken NPP.
And the sixth report of the Fukushima Prefecture Health Management Survey, which was released in April, revealed after the survey examined 38,114 local children that 36 percent of Fukushima children have abnormal thyroid growths.

The Fukushima Prefecture Health Management Survey revealed that 13,460 children, or 35.3 percent, had thyroid cysts or nodules up to 0.197 inches long growing on their thyroids and 0.5 percent of the children had growths larger than 0.197 inches.

So, why might this be significant? According to the American Thyroid Association (ATA), thyroid problems from nuclear events occur when radioactive iodine is leaked into the atmosphere and thyroid cells that absorb too much of this radioactive iodine may become cancerous, with children being particularly susceptible.

Furthermore, the ATA reports noted that thyroid cancer "seems to be the only cancer whose incidence rises after a radioactive iodine release" and that that babies and children are at highest risk. The estimated lifetime radiation doses among the children are still low, but they do exist, the Japan’s National Institute of Radiological Sciences stated at a10 July international symposium in Chiba Prefecture.
Who cares about such an arcane issue? Well, the National Institute of Radiological Sciences conclusions refute the government’s assertion that Japanese children in effect received zero thyroid radiation doses from Fukushima.
Re Fukushima children’s health, the news just gets better. Two months ago Tokyo Shinbum reported that 60 percent of Fukushima children under 12 have tested positive for diabetes, according to Dr. Miura, the director of Iwase’s general hospital.
Why, possibly?
Because the Strontium-90 radioactive isotope quickly decays to become Yttrium-90, which can concentrate in the pancreas, causing pancreatic cancer or diabetes. That said, while noting the abnormality, Dr. Miura declined to link it to Fukushima radiation exposure.
So, where does the Japanese government go from here?

It might do worse than to follow the advice of Australian pediatrician Dr. Helen Caldicott, who after observing that "It is extremely rare to find cysts and thyroid nodules in children," added that "you would not expect abnormalities to appear so early - within the first year or so - therefore one can assume that they must have received a high dose of (radiation)" before concluding, "it is impossible to know, from what (Japanese officials) are saying, what these lesions are."

Calidcott also noted that Japanese officials are not sharing the ultrasound results with foremost experts of thyroid nodules in children before noting, "The data should be made available. And they should be consulting with international experts ASAP. And the lesions on the ultrasounds should all be biopsied and they're not being biopsied. And if they're not being biopsied then that's ultimate medical irresponsibility. Because if some of these children have cancer and they're not treated they're going to die."

Nothing to see here, move along – unless your child is part of that 35.3 percentile.

Still, something for Westerners to think about the next time their government promotes building a nuclear power plant nearby - or if you live close to an existing one.


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Wed, 07/25/2012 - 21:55 | 2651731 Cabreado
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When our collective emotional intelligence can no longer keep up with the collective fruits of our so-called advances, Chaos will reign.

It has to.

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 22:15 | 2651765 Incubus
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Well, no one ever said there was any easy way out of humanity.

What we say we are, what we want to believe we are, and what the cumulative evidence-manifest of humanity shows us as are completely different.  To exist is to suffer from delusion.  Seven billion delusional apes all stuck on a small rock that's floating through space.

I'd say it's a comedy: because you can only suffer from the the utter hopelessness of the situation for so long, until you stop caring and start looking for some humor in all of it.

We're all clowns.  You might as well enjoy the ride to destruction.  Crying or fighting or cursing your predicament won't help.  Just enjoy it.

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 22:24 | 2651793 Cabreado
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Wrong, Incubus.

I'm not a clown.
If you choose to be one, have a good time.
Make people laugh.
Distract them, and pretend that clowns are good.

You may be attempting to describe the human condition,

but your weakness bleeds off my screen.

Your hopeless view is a net drag on everything.

You are complicit.
You are dangerous.

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 22:37 | 2651816 AldousHuxley
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kamikaze suicide and atomic bomb fallout for you, immune to WW2 indictment or even any moral responsibility for the war for the royal family.


add to that the balls to protect emperor as "an incarnate divinity" as the offspring of the sun goddess bullshit propaganda even signing the conditions of surrender.


pure bullshit royal family just like the ones they copied from...the brits

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 23:06 | 2651877 engineertheeconomy
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California Children Unwitting (and Unwilling) Radioactive Guinna Pigs

fixed it for you

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 23:10 | 2651889 knukles
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Nobody gets out of this life alive.

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 23:22 | 2651920 Hulk
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True dat, but it is quite obvious the wrong people are dying...

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 09:53 | 2652915 Fukushima Sam
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Video from Chris Busby showing the results of an analysis of an air filter from a 20th-floor apartment in Tokyo.  Quite a bit of uranium in there...


Wed, 07/25/2012 - 23:30 | 2651941 White.Star.Line
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You are probably right.

But reading your posts help me die a richer man.......

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 23:34 | 2651942 White.Star.Line
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But I am probably wrong. Will die a poor worthless bum. BUT STILL a fan of knukles, so fuck you!

Am I arguing with myself? God I hate that........

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 23:33 | 2651957 Not Too Important
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True. But better to go quick rather than a slow, painful death from untreatable radiation sickness. This is going to kill whatever anyone thinks of modern medical care.

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 00:05 | 2652040 Skateboarder
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The suppression technique used by western medicine is, for the most part, a sham.

"Here, take these pills - you'll be all better."

"What's in it doctor?"

"Hell if I know. Just take the damn thing three times a day, alright."

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 23:39 | 2651969 Not Too Important
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All the world's children. Infant Mortality Rates are way up since 3/11. Hundreds of thousands of infant deaths due to Fukushima within a few months of the accident, and climbing exponentially.

The path is Japan, then the US/Canada, on to Europe, through Russia into China and the circle is complete. The radiation is being thoroughly distributed by the jetstream throughout the Northern Hemisphere, then into the Southern.

The US/Canadian West Coast will be uninhabitable in a few years.


"Radiation in milk in Hawaii is now at least 2,033% above Federal drinking water safety limits."

Who drinks the most milk?

It kills the kids first.

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 01:24 | 2652147 zhandax
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West Coast will be uninhabitable in a few years

Don't ask, don't tell

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 06:00 | 2652309 CPL
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I believe that's the plan to date.

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 23:42 | 2651984 Not Too Important
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Actually, the Emperor does give a shit. He gave a speech, and when he got to the children, the media edited him out. Imaging the press in the US editing a Presidential speech on the topic of mass extinction:

The decisions to kill the population come from the Prime Minister's office, along with the ruling CEO's. Sound familiar?

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 03:26 | 2652235 Reptil
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1. I agree with you on this role during the second world war. As the son of japanese concentration camp survivors, I think I have a right to speak.

2. Right now, the tables are turned. The ones in power don't need the emperor anymore. When he made a speech in an adress to the country, and clearly spoke out AGAINST nuclear power, the japanese tv censored this in (prime time) reruns of this speech.

Karma's a bitch, and the japanese seem to have forgotten their shinto Bhuddism roots. (That say every object also is inhabited by a "spirit". (amongst a lot of other things)) Now how about you open the door to another (unstable) physical space/dimension within our own (by radiating (and thus changing the substance our dimension is made of)? How would that be classified?

3. The japanese people are extreme versions of us. They've been lulled in a half sleep, just like most of our neighbours, colleages and even family. So this GENOCIDE upon them, and upon ALL OF US, will not stop until we put a bullet between the eyes of those that keep pushing this failing technology. It is NOT an attack of one country, one race upon another. This is an attack of a very stupid and insane part of ALL OUR SOCIETIES, upon the very biotope. So the japanese people are a victim of their own failure to act.

4. It is time to draw lines in the sand, and start acting. The alternative is that this slumber continues, and we ALL (elite AND hoi polloi) will be finished in only a few decades. Our DNA broken, our biotope destroyed beyond repair.

We Are Under Attack!

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 05:36 | 2652292 Treason Season
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"...The japanese people are extreme versions of us. They've been lulled in a half sleep,..."

Thank you for saying what no one else has said. The Japanese are the biggest political zombies of the first world. They are getting everything they deserve for keeping their heads in the politcal sand for so long. Between the Yakuzis and their own gov't selling down the river sayanora Nippon.

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 12:00 | 2653452 skipjack
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The Japanese aren't zombies.  They are conformists - they are born and bred to be conformists; their culture demands it, they are rewarded for it.  There are only negative consequences if you don't conform.


TPTB are trying to turn the citizens of every nation into something approximating the Japanese.  If you don't conform, we'll occupy your brain cells with stupid TV, video games, or mindless sports.


Bread and circuses, baby; it's tradition.

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 05:14 | 2652285 johngaltfla
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But they said Fukushima was "fixed"...uh, of course that's why they are looking for alternate capital city locations....

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 22:40 | 2651823 boogerbently
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Free will.

You can choose to be good or evil.

The attributes of good and evil that everyone agrees to, whether they are "believers" or not, are spelled out in the Bible.

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 23:10 | 2651866 GoinFawr
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And were there long before it.

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 23:14 | 2651902 Totentänzerlied
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Actually not, the Abrahamic faith(s) pretty much single-handedly invented that whole good/evil thing.

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 23:34 | 2651962 Whiner
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That's like saying mathematics came into existence when the Arabs or Phonecians developed it ( or whoever ). Or the laws of gravity were singlehandely invented by Sir Isaac Newton. You will know one day that there are moral principles behind the order of the universe. Go long on truth; short relativism. Buy gold when monetary systems and markets corrode. And remember, Father Abraham invented gold single handedly.

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 00:40 | 2652084 Skateboarder
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Mathematics is the only god. Any universe is only a meager subset.

Read Bertrand Russell's "The Principles of Mathematics." It is a little dry and each page takes you 5-10 minutes to digest, but it is one of the best books written and it would a great service to oneself to read it.

There are, however, a few indefinables in Mathematics, and even the greatest of minds cannot comprehend them. For example, the notion of implication, truth, and falsehood... they are indefinable. The proposition "p implies q" means that p's truth implies q's truth, or p's falsehood implies q's falsehood. Implication is self-recursive. Truth and falsehood are taken to be fundamental properties of this universe, but do note that they are a binary set, which can be described easily by math. Mathematics does not contain truth or falsehood but uses the notions, which leads me to beleve that they are above Mathematics.

So perhaps I should reconsider my first statement in saying Mathematics is the only god. The indefinables of Mathematics are the only god(s).

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 01:00 | 2652111 Likstane
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The fool has said in his heart, "There is no God"...  Psalm 53:1

Bertrand Russel(dead professed athiest) and yourself share the same moniker, given by God; fool. 

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 07:48 | 2652318 CPL
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While it doesn't necessarily provide solid evidence, think about the autistic.  Some weird genetic memory markers in that part of the human species.  A Kid draw pictures of cellos until two, see's a cello in a store, can play it intuitively then goes one to write symphony after symphony. The flash calculators.  Date pickers.  Facsimile Art makers.  Human memory banks.  Etc.


There is something to that.  We have seen superman in real life.


The chair keyboard interface is not limited by the method it may lie with numbers.  Anyone here with a university degree had to suffer Statistics, it's the single math course that stands as a requirement for all to graduate.  It is also the recipe to help push a viewpoint with math. 

Take a little here, hold back there and the picture can be whatever you wish it to be as long as your variables are well defined and confusing as hell.  And Math can VERY much carry lies in it.  We all call them mistakes.

Its the reason bridges collapse before they are supposed to, Fukishima happened.  That boat rolling over last year (didn't plot or calculate the path of a ship the size of a city).  Why Challenger blew up (miscalculation of the booster design requirements.).  There are many answers in math, but there are also so very big mistakes made with it.


It's why as Canadian Engineers we are given an iron ring on graduation.  It's a representation of a bridge that collapsed and killed thousands and cost a fortune to deal with because it was a single poorly warranted calculation of the stress the iron rings purchased acting as washers in the bridge design.  So on graduation you are given a diploma and an iron ring as a reminder "Don't fuck up or people die."


Of course the math isn't at fault its only a tool, the moron calculating is.

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 07:00 | 2652379 Nassim
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The Abrahamic got it from the Egyptians. Why do you think they weighed up the heart of the dead against a feather?


BTW, the Egyptians were also the first to come up with a monotheist religion (one god). The Jews were fast learners.

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 07:09 | 2652396 Ghordius
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Isn't the idea of a duopoly between light/good and darkness/evil from Zarathustra?

I thought most Asian school of thought have more the view of "good/virtue" being an optimum in a range between two "bads/sins".

Like Miser <-> Thrifty <-> BigSpender

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 23:25 | 2651928 FeralSerf
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Free will?  You don't think there's a possibility that cause and effect exists?

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 23:33 | 2651956 Cabreado
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No Bible needed.

No religion necessary.

And without such guidance,

"good" and "evil" are left to mere agnostics to hash out.

With such an argument over "good vs evil"

perhaps "right vs wrong" starts to prevail because religion hasn't worked,

and then, as it still goes nowhere,

we find ourselves once again back at

those-who-give-a-damn vs those-who-don't.


Wed, 07/25/2012 - 23:40 | 2651978 Zgangsta
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Free Will?  I didn't even know he was imprisoned.

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 22:56 | 2651857 cbxer55
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A killer clown from outer space, perhaps?

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 12:35 | 2653586 Drachma
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Let us look to the mechanism of control. It relies on a self-imposed forfeiture of thought by the controlled; A state that can be coaxed by proper stimulus and crisis. And when all sense of self-preservation has been eliminated, ever smaller and infrequent external interventions are needed to maintain the matrix of control. The logic of enslavement becomes undeniable to the enslaved. Ultimately there remains no logic, no question of the state that binds. The venom of the master becomes the Soma of the mastered.

Thu, 08/02/2012 - 17:04 | 2674016 SteinRobyn17
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Then only they can comment on this editorial. Can the author provide the English version of the Sixth Document based on which this editorial has been written ? childrens trampoline It is unlikely that the Thyroid cyst will create so early.

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 23:43 | 2651991 Not Too Important
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'The Road', by Cormac McCarthy. The governments are preparing for it now.

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 22:03 | 2651744 Harrison
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Two catastrophic accidents in what, sixty-some years? One because the incompetent boobs running a known-unsafe primitively-designed reactor "simulated" an emergency by shutting off all the safety systems and lettin' 'er rip, and the other because the first-generation reactor got hit by a 9.0 earthquake AND a 60-foot tsunami.

Yeah, them reactors in the Illinois cornfields sure are a hellish danger, what with all the earthquakes and tsunamis we get here. Sure wish they'd build more coal plants so we could all die of lung disease.

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 22:32 | 2651806 Alea Iactaest
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Is that you Trav?

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 23:09 | 2651885 engineertheeconomy
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According to Hillary, she could give a flying fuck about all the radiation spewing all over the place. She and her elite friends all have elaborate underground cities to live in

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 23:47 | 2651996 Not Too Important
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Hillary signed treaties with Japan and Canada, to not test for radiation in any imported/exported food products. She and her posse don't care about killing billions of people.

As far as the underground cities go, they have ALL breathed in the uranium and plutonium sent here from Japan, just like the rest of us. They may get better hospice care, but they're all going to go at the same time we are. There is no immunity or antidote to any of this.

It's collective suicide, caused by decades of corruption in the nuclear industry, promoted by the major world powers.

Those underground cities are nothing more than mausoleums.

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 22:32 | 2651808 earleflorida
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sure wish we had 'thorium module reactors'? but, that would fuck the hypocritical NPT... of saying one thing and doing quite the opposite! they love the by-product plutonium and the money from uranium, but the MIC's cold-war bureaucratic warriors need their blood money from the Temple Master's?


Wed, 07/25/2012 - 22:04 | 2651746 lolmao500
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The Fukushima Prefecture Health Management Survey revealed that 13,460 children, or 35.3 percent, had thyroid cysts or nodules up to 0.197 inches long growing on their thyroids and 0.5 percent of the children had growths larger than 0.197 inches.

They say it's no big deal...and they say the study isn't conclusive because it hasn't been long enough... eh guess what, cellular division in kids is hundreds of times faster than adults so radiation is bound to appear way faster in them... but eh, keep denying...

The japs need to stop being polite good little slaves and start arresting/hanging their officials, the MSM spewing that BS, TEPCO and the Japanese nuclear commission for allowing all this to happen.

Whoever is still within 500km of Fukushima is nuts.

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 22:16 | 2651780 Precious
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That proves absolutely nothing unless you measure it against a control group, which has not been done yet.  For all you know, the average at Fukushima could be lower than the general population.  You don't know.  The research hasn't been done yet.

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 22:19 | 2651785 lolmao500
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Well since the radiation is spreading...

Quite Something’: Extremely radioactive sample from Tokyo air filter — 150 times more uranium than expected — “This is from Fukushima” -Busby
  • Apartment on 20th floor located 300 meters from the Tokyo Tower
  • A gamma spectrum of the sample scraped from the filter
  • According to the sample information at the bottom of the spectrum:
  1. Taken June 15, 2012
  2. Collected June 18, 2012

At 4:45 in

So what we can say about this sample is that its extremely radioactive… It contains high levels of uranium and lead-210 and cesium-137.

All substances which are inside an apartment on the 20th floor of a block 300 meters from the Tokyo Tower. Isn’t that quite something? It’s quite something.

Rhodium-102 this is a fission product from Fukushima.

There’s far too much uranium there, there’s about 3,000 becquerels per kilogram. There should be about 20.

So this is from Fukushima as well.

Which means there’s particles of Uranium floating around in Central Tokyo.

Scary stuff. Scary stuff.

Eh, if you think this is all made up, you should move to Fukushima...

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 23:17 | 2651911 engineertheeconomy
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Now there are radioactive cars driving all over the U.S. We are building our freways and stadiums with radioactive steel. The corruption is Global, and so will be the revolt on December 21st, 2012. Bring your rage

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 23:51 | 2652009 Not Too Important
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The British 2012 Olympic Arena is built on a nuclear waste dump.

Santa Susana spilled radiation all over LA in the '50's.

The use of radioactive scrap metal is far higher than anyone might think. All the radiation detectors installed after 9/11 have been turned off because the background levels after 3/11 are so high they can't get accurate readings.

If someone wanted to smuggle nuclear material, this is the time to do it. If old fashioned police work doesn't get them, no DHS sensors will.

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 23:56 | 2652023 Not Too Important
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The research has been done. The military has been studying these issues for decades, with both willing and unwilling test groups. They don't want to officially acknowledge this research, but examples get out, some leaks are verified.

If you want a real wakeup call, Google 'chernobyl babies' under Google Images. That's what the babies in Japan are looking like, and soon, if not already, here in the US and Canada.

The Russians let them live, or at least the ones that made it through the birth canal. There were a lot of forced abortions after Chernobyl. In Japan, the doctors kill them before anyone sees them.

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 02:07 | 2652188 geekgrrl
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"In Japan, the doctors kill them before anyone sees them."

Obviously this is what is happening. How many reported deaths from Fukushima workers? Reports claimed that many of the "skilled workers" brought in to make it look like Tepco was actually doing something were a class of people considered expendable. Nobodies, no family, no ties. Nobody to miss them when they're gone and complain to the press.

As for the babies, yea, it'll be just like Chernobyl only worse, much worse.

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 01:26 | 2652150 Clashfan
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Precious, 30 + percent of kids w/sickness, w/these nodules? What kind of "control group" do you need (if those stats are true)? That's the stupidest post on this whole thread, and you have some fierce competition.

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 01:28 | 2652151 Clashfan
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Control group? I still can't get over it. I had to look back at the piece to see what or why someone would post something like.... ugh

"The Fukushima Prefecture Health Management Survey revealed that 13,460 children, or 35.3 percent, had thyroid cysts or nodules up to 0.197 inches long growing on their thyroids and 0.5 percent of the children had growths larger than 0.197 inches."

You need WHAT to compare that to? Who in the wide world are you? And why are you posting here?

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 05:11 | 2652248 Reptil
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And that's the point of spreading the radioactive particles (throughout Japan, but incidentally also releasing these back into the higher strata of the atmosphere, so they'll end up elsewhere)

But you're obviously WRONG! OF COURSE there've been very extensive research done in the Ukraine and Belarus, and also Kazachstan. But this research, although freely available, has been ignored.

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 23:32 | 2651952 Totentänzerlied
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FYI: 0.197 inches or ~5mm is half the threshold length for clinical concern. How I know: half of family has history of PTC (not MTC), goiter, and nodules.

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 00:01 | 2652037 Not Too Important
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Also, any child that is detected with thyroid nodules is not allowed to see a doctor again for followup for two years.

Apparently, they're hoping by then it will be full blown cancer that is untreatable, and they'll send the child home to hospice with a large bottle of pain pills.

This is our future, too. We're going to be herded into hospice with minimum treatment, and a bottle of pain pills - non-refillable, if you get the point.

At least the Netherlands has euthenasia vans. They come to your house, kill you and haul away the body. Very sanitary. Hooray for national health care!

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 03:51 | 2652249 Reptil
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I've never heard of euthenasia vans. Please post evidence of STFU?

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 08:05 | 2652482 Reptil
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wow did someone actually "junk" me for that? laughable.

I'm here, in Holland right fucking now, and THERE ARE NO EUTHENASIA VANS.


Wed, 07/25/2012 - 22:06 | 2651753 Son of Loki
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The thyroid nodules don't seem to bother me as much as the three headed mice and the 1 pound cockaroaches. I can't stand them.

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 22:07 | 2651755 Ocean22
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Thu, 07/26/2012 - 00:05 | 2652041 Not Too Important
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Yes, the available workers are hitting the limits of personal dosages. There is now an acute shortage of workers. With increasing rad levels on site, it will be impossible to work there. They are scraping as much as possible and dumping it in the ocean as fast as they can, but the real question is how are they going to keep the salt-water pumps running to try and keep what's left cool?

Once the water stops, everything not melted already will combust and start the fission process all over again.

Yes, it's going to get much worse. First the children, then up through the age brackets.

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 04:02 | 2652252 Reptil
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Yes MUCH worse.
(and no lead shielding on their body of course)

To prevent "harmful rumours" no doubt.

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 22:21 | 2651789 americanspirit
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Malignancies on the thyroid are not just about thyroid cancer - the slowest-growing of all major cancers. When the thyroid goes, the immune system goes. Thyroid health affects gut health. Hashimoto's thyroiditis for those who care to be informed. And this isn't just about radioactive iodine either. Simple minds reach simple conclusions. Rave on.

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 23:12 | 2651896 knukles
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Wed, 07/25/2012 - 23:38 | 2651971 Totentänzerlied
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2 people in my family have no thyroid tissue, one has 1/2, their immune systems are fine. Maybe you're thinking of the thymus?

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 04:37 | 2652253 Reptil
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So... what's first... radiation exposure of the Fukushima children, or cystes on their Thyroid glands?

I dare you to make the case that roughly 1/3 of these children had an autoimmune disease before Daiichi blew up. 0,8% had these Thyroid cystes in 2001. Yes that is the control data.

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 22:31 | 2651791 Mercury
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I hope for the best health for all those affected but I think it's worth noting that as horrific as Hiro/Nag was, many affected peoples did much better and lived much longer than anticipated. I know that is cold comfort to the actual individuals affected but big-picture...I think we can be hopeful.

Hell - a guy who survived both atomic bomb blasts in Japan

died only two years ago at 93

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 00:08 | 2652047 Not Too Important
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There will be people who live longer than others.

The critical issue is the kids. What happens when we can no longer produce children capable of recreating, due to nuclear mutation?

A century from now, the Northern Hemisphere will be a vast, uninhabitable wasteland.

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 04:27 | 2652264 Reptil
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It's everywhere in Japan. It's spreading throughout the N-Pacific and the jetstream (around the northern hemisphere and eventually around the world).

The things that the japanese could rely on to help repair their bodies, as happened after the Atom Bombs, are GONE! Contaminated seaweed, contaminated crop, contaminated groundwater, contaminated rivers, contamininated everything. Spreading it because of burning debris (even transported to Okinawa!!!!!!!) makes it all worse. "Share in the misfortune". (Fuck your DNA collectively)

The nuclear reactors are STILL spewing a large quantity of high radioactive particles, unhindered (TEPCO just dumps the groundwater into the sea after pumping it away)

And worst of all: A single dose of gamma rays from a bomb blast, is much much MUCH less harmful than when small (nano) particles that are alpha emitters are lodged in a (childs) body.

So please do some research on continuous low level doses, on the difference between tissue damage of alpha emitter particles and a single gamma ray burst, and then make your case again?

On "fast dose exposures" vs. "slow dose exposures"

With URANIUM particles floating around in Tokyo (30 million + inhabitants) the contamination of alpha emitters (found in filters of cars and aircos) is not an assumption based on a model;


Thu, 07/26/2012 - 09:37 | 2652826 Mercury
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Well, it would appear that I stand corrected.  Really, it’s news to me that 40's era nuke blasts are relatively benign by comparison.

Thanks for the links.


Wed, 07/25/2012 - 22:27 | 2651797 logicalman
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Fuck you shima is for sure the worst man made industrial disaster there's ever been - Chernobyl is a fart in a hurricaine compared to this.

Japan is going to become the cance/birth defects capital of the world and cancer rates are going to rise globally because of this - AND IT'S STILL ONGOING!

Nucler power truly is green and cheap /sarc

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 22:27 | 2651798 Seize Mars
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Well I have a couple of remarks. First, fuck you NSA, thanks for spying on me you bunch of losers. Get a life.

Also, fuck you Ben Bernanke and your pack of lying sycophants such as the great phoney Krugman.

Also a big fuck you to the Empire of Standard Oil known as Britain/America.

Fuck all of you sick megalomaniacs. Just leave us alone.

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 23:21 | 2651919 engineertheeconomy
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Plenty of time to prepare for a chance to get back at them. December 21st, 2012. Gonna be a party

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 12:04 | 2653469 Not Too Important
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They - and all their children - breathed it in, too. We're all going to go about the same time.

Personally, I would worry about any judgement/karma at the next junction.

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 22:29 | 2651801 SqueekyFromm
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OH, I love the picture. When I was in high school (circa 2000), I did a paper on Japan and in one of my father's books I found this thingie where there was a flap in Japan about unsafe nuclear waste containers, sooo they painted Happy Faces on the containers and everything was cool after that. There was two kinds of reality IIRC, and one was tatamai(???) and one was called something else that I can't remember. One was "reality" and one was "the appearance of reality." Has anybody else ever heard of this, because I can't find the book, and I can't find the story on the Internet, and my dad doesn't have a clue where I got it from. 

Squeeky Fromm, Girl Reporter

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 22:47 | 2651841 JohnG
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Wed, 07/25/2012 - 22:32 | 2651807 blunderdog
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From a business perspective, this is an amazing opportunity to study irradiated people and invent better treatments. 

For sure this'll happen again--wouldn't it be nice to make a buck when it does?

Seems we can all agree nuke meltdowns suck.

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 22:48 | 2651842 JamesBond
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Fukushima seafood on sale for first time since nuclear disaster


LOS ANGELES—For the first time since Japan's nuclear disaster last year, seafood caught off the Fukushima coastline is being sold in local markets to test customer demand. On Monday, two types of octopus and one variety of marine snail deemed clear of more
Wed, 07/25/2012 - 22:57 | 2651859 q99x2
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Hope things get better.

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 23:00 | 2651867 Jim in MN
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Sadly, there are many, many things being put ahead of true concern for children's health in this situation. 

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 23:10 | 2651887 Dr. Engali
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It sure would be nice to hear what's going on from some of our Japanese readers,if any. I find it incredulous that the one country who has suffered from a nuclear attack would put the populous in harms way near Fuckyoushithole. One would think they would be a little sensitive to the issue. Pathetic.

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 23:32 | 2651950 Not Too Important
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Lots of Japanese voices:

Yes, the Japanese are starting to come out of their shell. Their desire to 'save face' is not as strong as trying to keep their children alive.

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 23:40 | 2651976 Dr. Engali
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Thanks for the links. It's pretty cool to see the person in the video wearing a Guy Fawkes mask.

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 23:29 | 2651937 Not Too Important
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"Accordingly, every issue from the amount of radiation released to the long term health consequences of the Fukushima disaster are subject to acrimonious debate."

It kills the kids first.

Just in case you missed it in a previous post:


“A recent study was prepared for Greenpeace Germany by international nuclear safety expert Dr. Helmut Hirsch. Dr. Hirsch’s assessment, based on data published by the French government’s radiation protection agency (IRSN) and the Austrian government’s Central Institute for Meteorology and Geodynamics (ZAMG) found that the total amount of unstable radionuclides Iodine-131 and Caesium-137 released between March 11 and March 23 has been so high that the Fukushima crisis already equates to three INES 7 incidents.

Release of radiation from the stricken reactors has reached 10,000 teraBequerels (10,000 trillion Bequerels) per hour, measured for radioactive Iodine-131.”

“The uranium bomb which the United States dropped on Hiroshima at the end of World War II released 89 tera becquerels. It killed 140,000 people – many instantly, others within weeks of the blast as they succumbed to severe radiation burns.”

So, a rough estimate is that Fukushima is spewing the equivalent of 112 Hiroshima-type nuclear bombs worth of radiation every hour, of every day.

That’s 981,120 atomic bombs a year going off worth of radiation into our biosphere."

Now, even if this study is off by 75% on the high side, that still leaves 245,280 nuclear bombs worth of radiation being emitted into the atmosphere yearly. Following the jetstream maps which is spreading this radiation, and it dovetails nicely with the world's primary growing regions that are experiencing severe drought.

And since they are running out of people to do any kind of work at Fukushima due to the high exposure levels, there's no stopping these emissions. In fact, the emissions are increasing at a steady rate, while the support structures are continually weakend and collapsing due to the continuous earthquakes and liberal application of salt-water cooling (which all flows back into the Pacific Ocean).

In a few years there will be Hell on earth. A Hell unlike anything anyone could ever possibly imagine. Enjoy what's left.

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 04:33 | 2652267 Reptil
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Good post!

245,280 nuclear bombs worth of radiation being emitted into the atmosphere yearly

YES this is the equivalent of a thermo nuclear war fallout, but then without the spectacular fireworks.

What was the "selling argument" for H-bombs again? Leaves the infrastructure intact but disposes of the enemy (population)? Too bad the infrastructure is toast as well...


Yes, I'll enjoy myself. And try save what's worth saving. Against better knowledge of what's coming: Got to keep hopes up!

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 09:07 | 2652749 blunderdog
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   What was the "selling argument" for H-bombs again? Leaves the infrastructure intact but disposes of the enemy (population)?

No, that was neutron bombs.  The H-bombs were just exponentially more powerful, could be scaled up very cheaply (hence the 40, 60, 100 megaton equivalents), and were much cleaner than the fission bombs.

I think the scaling was really the biggest key selling point.

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 23:33 | 2651960 Jim in MN
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And let's now forget the Santa Susana meltdown site just outside of Los Angeles.  Still contaminated, badly measured, and officially obscured to this day.

Rocketdyne radiation is still abundant By Susan Abram, Staff Posted: 03/05/2012 07:49:52 PM PST March 6, 2012 3:53 AM GMTUpdated: 03/05/2012 07:51:34 PM PST




Some levels of radioactive chemicals found on a portion of the Santa Susana Field Laboratory site were as much as 1,000 times higher than standards, according to federal data released on Monday.

Acting as an independent monitor, officials with the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency conducted radiological surveys on a portion of the land known as Area IV, where a partial meltdown of a nuclear reactor occurred in 1959.

That portion is currently overseen by the Department of Energy.

The results of the radiological survey show that of the 437 samples collected, 75 exceeded standards agreed upon by the DOE and the California Department of Toxic Substances Control in a cleanup agreement signed in December 2010.

Seven radioactive isotopes, including one known as cesium-137, measured at levels between 100 to 1,000 times higher than the standards. Other radionuclides that suggest nuclear presence include strontium-90, tritium, plutonium, and carbon-14.

The recent data is significant to residents, activists and public officials who have fought for years for the removal of radiation and chemical contaminants at the former Rocketdyne site, which is nestled in the hills between Chatsworth and Simi Valley and was purchased by the Boeing Co. in 1996.

The numbers provides hard evidence that not only do the radioactive materials exist, but that the levels are higher than expected.

"This confirms what we were worried about," said Assemblywoman Julia Brownley, D-Santa Monica, who has sought a complete cleanup of the former Rocketdyne rocket engine testing laboratory. Brownley released the data to the public on Monday.

"This begins to answer critical questions about what's still up there, where, how much, and how bad," she said in a statement.

Brownley called the findings "extremely disappointing, especially because the site has already undergone two cleanup efforts by its owner, The Boeing Co., and the Department of Energy. Each declared the land fully cleaned."

A spokesman for the Department of Energy didn't say if the agency was surprised or disappointed by the levels, but that clean-up would continue.

"We really are still looking at the data," said John Jones, federal project manager with the DOE. "The bottom line is we will clean up as we agreed to in our committment to the 2010 Administrative Order on Consent for Remedial Action."

Boeing officials emphasized that they have completed significant cleanup activities alongside the DOE and NASA, which also owns a portion of the land.

"The preliminary data does not pertain to the portions of the site that Boeing is responsible for cleaning up," Boeing officials said in a statement.

"We continue to be open to working with the EPA, the Department of Energy, NASA and the state to find the most effective ways to clean up Santa Susana and preserve the land for future generations."

Officials with the state Department of Toxic Substances Control would not say if the levels found at the site posed an immediate danger.

"When we deal with things, we deal with long term risk exposure," said Mark Malinowski, with the DTSC.

A final report on the radiological survey is expected at the end of the year, Malinowski said.

But activists reacted similarly to Brownley, saying the data prove that prior clean up efforts were ineffective. They wonder what else can be brewing within the rocks, the earth, and the groundwater within the 2,849-acre property.

"People have been waiting for this information for years," said Dan Hirsch, president of the activist group Committee to Bridge the Gap.

"All those years, we were told it was clean. This data prove we're not just a bunch of unknowledgeable people, but that everyday people are proven right."

There was some victory in 2010 when both the DOE and NASA agreed to adhere to a high level of clean-up standards mandated under state bill 990.

However, Boeing officials said that decontaminating its property to those standards would destroy the natural resources on the site. A federal judge agreed with Boeing last year.

But the EPA's recent findings prove that all past remediation efforts have failed, said Denise Duffield, executive director for Physicians for Social Responsibility-Los Angeles.

"These are remarkable findings," Duffield said. "The new EPA data show extensive radioactive contamination remaining at the site and underscores the need for the site to be cleaned up to background without delay."

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 23:52 | 2652014 Divine Wind
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If you don't trust the mainstream media on any other subject, why would you believe anything they tell you about Fukushima?

In such situations, it is an imperative that one regularly put a few min into digging a little further. Call it risk management.

I have posted the following resources previously. I appreciate your forbearance if you have seen them already. Some may find them useful.

The links lead to mostly FREE resources and services well worth exploring:   FREE testing of auto and home air filters for radioactive materials (hot particles). Know what you are breathing.   FREE weekly newsletter covering a variety of threats to the U.S. including Fukushima. Mouthpiece of the RadTest program. (Download, print and store their 3 free reports).   FREE website covering all things Fukushima. Check the little links at the top. Outstanding resource. Visit daily. Perhaps one of the best sources for regular news.   FREE website providing ongoing, insightful analysis of the Fukushima disaster. Another outstanding resource. The moderator speaks and reads Japanese and English fluently, thereby scaling the language barrier TEPCO uses to hide some of their BS.   This is the House of Gunderson. Former nuclear exec and engineer turned whistle-blower of sorts. One of the few truth speakers from within the industry. He and his wife are good people and worthy of your support if so moved.   NOT FREE SHTF alert service. Our firm has used them for over a decade. No bullshit. They broke the news of the Fuku disaster here in the U.S. Check out their customer list. There is a reason they all use the service. Even the MSM uses them to find out what the hell is going on.


There are also a myriad of websites, blogs, university homepages and the like providing even more information.

For instance UC Berzerkly is monitoring milk, water and some veggies for contamination.


Like Kyle Bass has been preaching, short Japan.

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 12:01 | 2653456 Not Too Important
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Be careful with any reports from US universities. They are all funded by nuclear interests. MIT, Stanford and Berkeley being among the worst offenders.

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 01:33 | 2652162 markar
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Well the bright side to all this is the planet will get a sorely needed respite from the ravages of the human race.

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 02:14 | 2652198 HungrySeagull
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Nuke the entire plant.

Throw in another nuke to dig a hole for the ocean to fill.

All better.

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 06:58 | 2652374 TheFourthStooge-ing
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HungrySeagull said:

Nuke the entire plant.

Throw in another nuke to dig a hole for the ocean to fill.

All better.

All better? Please elaborate. This sounds very much like solving debt problems with more debt.

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 08:03 | 2652557 Reptil
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"nuked" doesn't mean everything just "disappears" magically!! no. I'm sorry but you're kidding yourself, it won't work.

there's enough fission material on site to turn this into the MOTHER of all bombs. no one knows how that fission material will do when it reacts but it's obvious the superpowers stopped testing superbombs after the russian 57 megaton "Tsar" bomb, because the very fabric of our planet was in danger. Yes, big hydrogen bombs could disrupt the cohesion of our planet.

this has been discussed here, including interesting ideas to use a combination of a nuke and regular explosives.


Thu, 07/26/2012 - 03:02 | 2652224 Johnk
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Oh why does John C.K. Daly of hate the job creators?

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 03:19 | 2652236 Kiwi Pete
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Why anyone with kids would stay anywhere in the vicinity of Fukushima is completely beyond me. Common sense and a knowledge of what liars both Govt and big business are tell you all you need to know. We all saw the pictures of those reactors blowing up. That's all you need to know right there. Everything said since is smoke and mirrors.

Years from now there'll be great wailing and hoocouldaknows as the kids all start coming down with cancer. But really. Everyone knows but no-one takes action for whatever personal reason. It's just very simple really. If you love your kids, leave the area. Abandon the house and job and just get out.

And if those reports of radiation blowing around Tokyo are true just leave there too. Any doubt then buy your own radiation detector and check it out. If you've got kids in Tokyo it's almost criminal child neglect not to. Don't wait for the Government to do it. It's like investing. Do your own due diligence. Look at the results and if they're bad, just walk away. It's not that hard when you're talking about the lives of your kids.

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 05:07 | 2652279 Reptil
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We are the same. We continue writing, and talking, while our governments plan building even more of these reactors. Why are we not organising real resistance? Do we all believe our society is still functioning enough to solve this problem in the short run?

At least in Germany, Switzerland, Italy the answer of the people AND governments was "no more nukes".

No... it's NOT contained to "just Tokyo" or "just Japan" - that is "someone else's problem" thinking, and not factually correct. (example of fallout from the jetstream)

But THEY are well underway of DESTROYING our biotope even without Fukushima:

And we're letting them. So we are the same as Fukushima's people.
A video:

Aren't they cute those kids? Their DNA will be FUCKEd though..

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 06:52 | 2652356 Heroic Couplet
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Jack Welch should have his arse dragged off the golf course and dumped right into the middle of Fukushima. The Democrat way to tell something is safe: identify the top 50 people who profit, and then bury or build in their backyard. That's when you know nuclear is safe.

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 08:05 | 2652564 lindaamick
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Originally corporations were formed as short term entities designed to accomplish a specific task or project. Upon completion of said task/project they were disbanded.

Unless we return to this model or some other model that severely restricts the growth of corporations we can expect nothing better than destruction of life due to pollution, lying about pollution and destruction, and lack of any kind of accountability for destruction of the earth.

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 08:35 | 2652640 cooperbry
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Should be reported far and wide and to everyone.  Do the costs of this kind of accident outweigh the benefits?  If the benefits are so great, are there ways to mitigate accidents?  Perhaps reactors can be built into pre-configured tombs where if an accident happens, massive amounts of concrete will entomb the failure?  Needs open discussion and debate...

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 08:53 | 2652696 irie1029
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Disgusting... and the worse part is our government is complicit.  you cannot tell me NASA or NOAA can't provide data as to current and past radioactivity in Japan.  My guess is it is alarmingly high.   

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 11:33 | 2653341 Not Too Important
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The US military, along with every other military that has an interest in radiation spread, has been tracking the spread of the Fukushima radiation through satellite imagery since 3/11. Many of these satellites have been up for years, some for decades.

They know everything going on - levels, areas of spread, everything. They just don't want to share.

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 11:37 | 2653352 covert
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humans are too careless with everything nuclear.


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