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Submitted by Brandon Smith of Alt-Market

How To Avoid Voting For A Globalist Puppet

Only a few days ago I attended a community meeting here in the Flathead Valley of Montana which revolved around the first of a series of gubernatorial debates covered by webcast across the state.  The number of Republican candidates vying in the primaries of this election is a bit absurd, and after witnessing the half-hearted or outright fake performances by most of them, I can see quite clearly that the state of Montana is being targeted by Neo-Con interests posing as Constitutionalists in an attempt to neutralize the extraordinary advance of the Liberty Movement here.  What struck me most sharply was  the fact that almost every candidate vying for the governor’s slot had taken on elements of the Liberty Movement philosophy.  The elections of 2012 and the immense success of the Ron Paul campaign have so far proven without a doubt that the anti-globalist, anti-totalitarian, anti-collectivist stance is now part of a growing majority in America.  Just as we have forced Neo-Con candidates in the Presidential primaries to at least pretend that they care about freedom (quite a change from the Bush years), so too are Republican impostors forced to mimic us in the battle for state offices.

With so many political candidates now at the very least paying lip-service to the concepts of Constitutional freedoms, limited Federal influence, and State’s rights, it may become increasingly difficult for voters to discern who is a snake-oil peddler and who is the real deal.  Many who supported the rise of the Tea Party (originally launched by Ron Paul back in 2007-2008), suddenly found their efforts for a free America being hijacked by establishment fakes in 2010.  Out of nowhere, gutter dwelling pro-globalist imposters like Rick Santorum could be found headlining forums at Constitutional rallies, and even veteran globalists like Newt Gingrich have tried to jump on the bandwagon.

The light at the end of the tunnel, though, is ironically visible in the destructive nature of these candidates. 

The NDAA, despite the inherent horror of its provisions, has been a spectacular litmus test for traitorous politicians. Self-styled liberty candidates like Allen West of Florida, winning with Tea Party support, have been exposed because of theirr backing of the NDAA.  Shockingly, West not only voted for the NDAA, but helped to COMPOSE the bill!  Now, due to a growing public outcry over the rendition and indefinite detention provisions of the NDAA, legislators like West are scrambling to cover their own asses by knowingly misinterpreting the bill’s language and denying it applies to American citizens:


Three amendments to the NDAA were put forward by senators Udall, Paul, and Feinstein, specifically designed to ensure that American citizens would be protected from the draconian detainment provisions of the NDAA, and all three were struck down.  Yet, Allen West and others continue to perpetuate the lie that Americans are safe from such tyranny. 

Exposure after the fact is better than nothing, but these difficult days require more vigilance.  How can the people of this country avoid making the mistake of voting for such disingenuous candidates when they seem so adept at telling us what we want to hear until they are comfortably in office? 

The key is to stop listening to what they SAY, and start looking closely at what they DO.  We must ignore their rhetoric, their speeches written by proxy, and their bad jokes slapped together by hired staff, and begin examining their actions and their backgrounds.  Because the Liberty Movement has gained so much influence and so much voice over the past four years, it is time that we start setting some ground rules for political candidates we will accept, and those we will not accept, to represent us. 

We need to ask ourselves, and them, some very pointed questions.  How have they consistently voted in the past?  Are they truly protecting our rights as Americans and as a human beings as described in the Constitution and the Bill Of Rights?  Have they done anything to stall or dismantle corruption in the government and in the banking industry?  Or, have every one of their propositions and “solutions” involved the continuation of destabilizing policies designed to aid an elite few at the expense of average Americans?   The following is a list of warning signs that can help you, your family, and your friends, no matter what their party affiliation, in determining if a favorite politician is a legitimate statesman, or a puppet bought and paid for by global corporate interests…

1)  Have They Ever Promised To Investigate, Audit, Or Dissolve The Private Federal Reserve Bank?

The Federal Reserve is the primary culprit in the creation of the derivatives and credit bubble.  Its use of artificially low interest rates inflated the housing market and by extension the U.S. economy, energizing international banking fraud and producing perhaps the greatest financial black hole in history.  It is currently staving off the effects of this collapse through the constant printing of fiat money from thin air, setting up the U.S. for a currency implosion of epic proportions. 

If your candidate has never made more than a passing sound bite comment on the Federal Reserve and what they plan to do about the poisonous debt and dollar devaluation that the private central bank has generated, then it is likely they are either too ignorant to understand how the institution operates, or, they know full well the problem, and plan to do nothing about it.  Ask directly any politician you plan to vote for; will they promise to fully audit and or shut down the Federal Reserve, especially if foul play or corruption is discovered?  If they defend the Fed, or dance around the question, then they are not on your side, nor on the side of true free markets and a stable economy.    

2)  Did They Vote For The Banker Bailouts?  Do They Continue To Defend Them?

If a candidate or representative voted for or openly supports the continuance of bailout measures for international banks which taxpayers must eventually cover, then this politician is not for you.  The bailouts have accomplished nothing that was promised by the Bush Administration, the Obama Administration, or state representatives who gave a platform for their passage.  Credit markets have not been unfrozen, the housing market has not stopped its endless decline, and consumer activity has not returned to levels anywhere near those of 2006.  Nearly 80% of Americans on both sides of our twisted two party spectrum voiced opposition to the bailouts and have continued to fight against quantitative easing measures on the part of the Federal Reserve.  This is not a case of our government knowing better for us than we do for ourselves.  This is a case of the government ignoring the will of the people and serving the interests of select elites.  If you plan to support a man or woman running for elected office, make absolutely sure they are not proponents of further bailouts and inflationary printing for the sake of propping up big banks, foreign institutions, and the highly manipulated stock market.

3)  Do They Support The Domestic Spying Measures Of The FISA Act And The Dissolution Of The 4th Amendment?

Any politician who has the audacity to argue that you must sacrifice your privacy and your liberty for “safety” is not on your side, or the side of the Constitution.  The 4th Amendment strictly prohibits illegal search and seizure of a citizen’s property without a warrant and without probable cause, and this includes your personal information and communications.  However, over time, the protections of the 4th Amendment have been slowly eroded away.  Today, almost every aspect of our lives is an open book for the government to peruse at their slightest convenience. 

With the advent of new measures executed through the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, no electronic transfer of data is safe, and corporate entities which handle these communications are completely immune from civil suits involved in the release of private information.  Under FISA, and under any act which authorizes mass surveillance of the public, every citizen is treated as guilty until proven innocent.  This is not Constitutional.  If your candidate has his hands into FISA or other pieces of legislation that open the door to domestic spying, drop them like a bad habit, or find yourself in deep regret later down the road.      

4)  Do They Support The NDAA, SOPA, PIPA, The AUMF, The Expatriation Act, Etc.?

The fascinating thing about the response by legislators to the fury over the NDAA is that they now refuse to acknowledge that the bill actually pertains to American citizens.  This tells me they are afraid to confront those opposed to the bill on the grounds that indefinite detention and suspension of Habeas Corpus is necessary.  Arguments from men like Allen West (or Denny Rehberg here in Montana) revolve around one line in the bill from Sec. 1022 which they use completely out of context:

1) UNITED STATES CITIZENS- The requirement to detain a person in military custody under this section does not extend to citizens of the United States.

What they consistently refuse to explain is the word “requirement” in this line.  If they were to place the line in the context of all the provisions involving indefinite detainment, the word “requirement” pertains to foreign prisoners that fall under the definition of “covered persons” in Sec. 1021 (a covered person could essentially be anyone the government decides to accuse of being a terrorist).  So, to put this as simply as possible; the government and the U.S. military is “required” under the NDAA to indefinitely detain without jury trial those foreign prisoners designated as enemy combatants or terrorists.  The government is NOT required to indefinitely detain U.S. citizens under the NDAA, but THEY CAN IF THEY WANT TO!  This precedent was set by the passage of the Authorization For The Use Of Military Force (AUMF), and was further strengthened (not obstructed as some propagandists claim) by the Supreme  Court’s decision in Hamdi v. Rumsfeld.  The NDAA gives the highly unconstitutional practice the Congressional stamp of approval.

With the NDAA, Americans must adopt a scorched earth policy before it is too late.  Every single sitting legislator that supports this bill must be removed from office.  Every political candidate running this year who proclaims support for the NDAA should be avoided like a plague ridden corpse.  SOPA, PIPA, the Expatriation Act, and other pieces of legislation operate on the same principle as the NDAA; they create a grey area within the law that allows government to accuse any person of a crime without evidence and inflict punishment without due process.  If we allow political vampires who nurture these measures into seats of power, then America ceases to be.  Without our liberties and the means to protect them, our country becomes nothing more than a doomed land mass devoid of principles or honor.

5)  Do They Have Overt Ties To The Military Industrial Complex?

The last thing this nation needs is another ‘chicken hawk’ candidate thirsty for war in far off lands as long as he doesn’t ever have to do any of the actual fighting.  However, what we need even less are candidates who have made their livings and their careers dispensing war for quick cash.  In Montana, it is disconcerting to be confronted with the likes of Neil Livingstone, who gave audiences a brief chuckle when he claimed that he would like to reintroduce the gray wolf to Washington D.C. instead of Montana to see how they liked it.  Very funny, but if the audience really knew Livingstone’s history, they wouldn’t be laughing. 

Livingstone’s background in private mercenary warfare and Blackwater-like businesses leaves a bad smell in the air, not to mention his attempt to lobby for Gaddafi and make a buck or two (or ten million) off the NATO debacle unleashed in Libya:

All that aside though, this “terrorism expert” suddenly decides to move back to Montana just last year, taking a break from his lucrative war driven wheeling and dealing, to enter the race for governor?  Should I not be at least a little suspicious?  In the meantime, his running mate, Ryan Zinke, a former Navy SEAL whose unit purportedly went on to “kill Bin Laden”, is now visiting Montana election meet-ups dressed in the most insincere cowboy costume I have ever laid eyes on complete with ten-gallon hat and giant gold belt buckle with “Montana” etched in bold letters, as if to say “hey ya’ll, I’m just like you!”  At the end of the meeting I attended, Zinke suggested that Montana solve its employment issues with “predator drone factories” (of course).  As he left, he actually exclaimed “go predator drones!” 

Bottom line, whether you are dealing with presidential candidates, or state candidates, a record of getting into bed (and into business) with the military industrial complex is probably not a good sign that the representative will respect civilian rights or the Constitution.  Certainly, he will say that he loves liberty, but by being instrumental in the spread of globalism, he has proven otherwise, and is not to be trusted.

6)  Does It Feel Like They Are Just Telling You What You Want To Hear?

Every candidate at the first gubernatorial debates in Montana was quick to use the words “states rights”, at least when it came to the EPA and resource development.  Livingstone even served up a vague threat of arresting federal representatives who cross into Montana (which, oddly, doesn’t seem to have the same bite after learning his background).  However, only one candidate, Bob Fanning (and running mate Chuck Baldwin) was willing to put himself on the line, promising to nullify federal incursions into Montana, protect medical marijuana, build a state sponsored militia (as the Constitution demands), deny the socialist doctrines of Obamacare, and insulate Montana’s economy using decentralized methods and legitimate free markets. 

The difference between Fanning and the other candidates was evident after hearing his goals and solutions.  They’re plans were broad, and dubious.  His were direct and decisively outlined.  They’re stances against Federal encroachment felt hollow, or deceitful, while Fanning’s resolve was absolute.  Sometimes, intuition is as good a measure of a candidate as factual research.  If your gut is telling you the man in front of you is a fake, it may be wise to ponder the thought for a moment.

7)  Where Are They Getting Their Money From?

In the 2012 presidential elections, only one candidate is raising the majority of his funds from average citizens instead of corporate backers.  Only one candidate has received a majority support from active serving military.  Only one candidate has done all of this through grassroots methods, despite being relentlessly attacked or ignored by the mainstream media.  Of course, I’m talking about Ron Paul. 

If global banking interests are pumping their donations into a particular candidate’s campaign, that candidate should be automatically categorized as unelectable.  Sadly, this is not how our world works right now.  “Follow the money” should be the first rule of the American voter.  If Mitt Romney, for instance, is being backed by the exact same corporate financiers as Barack Obama, then one should be led to question whether or not there is absolutely any difference between them.  Apparently, global banks don’t seem to think so, so why should you?

If elitists refuse to spend a single penny on a specific candidate, then it is a sure bet that candidate is a threat to the status quo, and therefore, should be on the top of your list as a potential representative.  

In the end, it will be difficult if not impossible to change this country in the midst of the current political climate.  This means that the climate must evolve or be done away with completely.  I believe 2012 may be our last chance to establish a governmental environment conducive to freedom.  If we fail to educate ourselves and others on the warning signs listed above, then political options will disappear.  We will be left with no other choice but a violent and prolonged conflict with those who would demolish American Constitutionalism.  Perhaps this is inevitable regardless of election results, but the fact remains that we must try every other available avenue first.

I have never been a fan of politics, but I know that this is only because the system now in place is constructed to discourage me, and everyone else, from trying to make a difference.  Playing by the rules of the establishment system is useless, but there are other roads we might take.  We can, indeed, make our own rules, and start a new game on more even ground, as long as we find the right candidates, cast off agents of distraction, and at the very least, attack the issues at a local level with every ounce of strength we have.  Putting a Constitutional candidate like Ron Paul into the Oval Office, though excitingly possible, will not be enough.  We must also pursue the same standards in our states, and draw a line in the sand around our respective communities.

Even with rigged electronic voting, media manipulation, and political co-option, I feel our efforts this year will resonate for many decades to come.  Whether we are able to take back social power for regular citizens is not as important as making them aware that they have allowed themselves to lose that power in the first place.  The elections of 2012, ultimately, should be treated as a vehicle for enlightenment, and this enlightenment begins when we are able to recognize the lies we live, and the men who sell them to us…


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Tue, 01/24/2012 - 12:44 | 2092809 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Elect Ron Paul.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 13:01 | 2092849 LawsofPhysics
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That and stop paying taxes and starve the beast and all the puppets of the global banking/financial class.  Remember, the ONLY way not to loose at a corrupt game is not to play.  Know the real value of your labor?  You better.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 13:11 | 2092936 Oh regional Indian
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The Press are the real liars that will sell you the lies.

The Liar Amplifiers.

The liars cannot succeed unless a respected (Walter Cronkite was an Establishment man, AS is Charlie Rose or that god awful CNN ex-con larry king) face repeats the lie for them.


At that, the press is a past-master now. Add TV+TaVistock and you've got mayhem.



Tue, 01/24/2012 - 13:44 | 2093068 AnAnonymous
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The key is to stop listening to what they SAY, and start looking closely at what they DO.


Oh, no.

Or only apply to US citizen politicians.

Because if you do so to all US citizens, well, you might be in for a trip on "what US citizenism is"

Have ever US citizens favour freedom? Dont look at what they have said, take a closer look at what they have done.


This US citizen author is a big delusional fool who forgot his own duplicity.

He forgot that there is no discontinuity between the US citizen elite and the US citizen base and that if you follow his piece of advice, once again, bah, you'll see that there is no discontinuity between the elite and the base in US citizen, the elite being the elite only expressing US citizen on a greater magnitude than the base.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 14:41 | 2093303 CompassionateFascist
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He's out of his wigwam again.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 16:11 | 2093725 Hugh_Jorgan
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Really? We're going to take shots at Allen West? huh...

Oh yeah Ron Paul is the next homosapien to be annointed messiah for our problems by a clueless rabble demanding rapid social change. (I have news for you rapid social change ends in massive bloodshed.)

Well then, we better deep-six Allen West's image so he doesn't have a chance to steal any thunder from the good Dr. Paul who understands JACK about Radical Islam, and thinks that he will defuse their perpetual threat to World stability by getting us out of region and going home. That is the opinion of a child who knows nothing about history or the nature of Mankind.

This problem of civil liberies is much older than Allen West's tenure in the House. He is on the ecommittee that is tasked with generating an annual NDAA, for crying out loud. He must be part of the team that builds the language. You can't be held responsible for every last word or twist of language required to get it passed. Tying up the bill to fight every "vague statement" means that the troops don't get paid, and that is not an option. As for Obama's signing statement, he has zero culpability there. Sadly this is politics today folks, 


Wed, 01/25/2012 - 03:41 | 2095639 DFCtomm
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There are more nuts in this place than a San Francisco bath house. But it's fun to listen to the incoherent rants. They got two answers to everything. it's the Jews or it's the industrial military complex. No other antagonist exists in their universe.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 13:45 | 2093074 Whoa Dammit
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"The Liar Amplifiers." That's a good one ORI. +1.

Does anyone here remember a time when the TV talking heads did not tell people what to think about a debate or political speech immediately after it was over, as if the audience had no ears to hear what the pols said , or no reasoning ability to form their own opinions?  I'm curious as to when this sheep herding by the media started, as it has been happening for as long as I can remember.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 13:44 | 2093070 fuu
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Just out of curiosity how should people go about not paying taxes and staying out of jail?

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 14:12 | 2093192 walküre
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Barter and cash economy aka "the black market" are flourishing.

Why is it called the black market? Surely that's not a racist attribute. But why do they keep calling it that? To insinuate that these markets are dirty or rotten? The big boyz are trading their paper in black or dark pools and have invented a black market for their schemes. Can't be that bad now, can it!

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 14:17 | 2093209 fuu
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How do people with payroll jobs go about escaping taxation without going to jail? Should they all quit their jobs and start working for cash under the table?

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 14:26 | 2093238 Conrad Murray
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Obviously. Unfortunately, the vast majority of people *are* sheep and will never do anything to better their lives.

"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." - John Stuart Mill

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 14:36 | 2093285 fuu
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Then again Mr. Mill had no children to provide for.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 14:59 | 2093394 Conrad Murray
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One would think those with children would be the first to free themselves, to try and ensure their wee ones aren't forced into a life and world of debt slavery. Always easier to make excuses and keep skipping toward the cliff I suppose.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 15:02 | 2093412 fuu
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Just so I understand, you are saying that parents should either quit their jobs and not provide for their children, or avoid taxation which could lead to incarceration all in the name of not jumping off a cliff.

Your rhetoric is weak.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 16:44 | 2093833 Conrad Murray
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I'm afraid it is your reading comprehension that is weak. I am saying there are plenty of ways for people to live without paying taxes(look up "System D 10 trillion" for a small idea). I am saying that if your biggest concern is whether or not the tax man is going to nab you, your priorities are fucked.

However, in your specific instance, what I am saying, and have yet left unsaid this bluntly, is that it seems to me you are a pussy looking to make excuses for why you continue to support a system that you know is corrupt. The most convenient way for you rationalize your cowardice is to hold up your children as a human shield.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 17:03 | 2093913 fuu
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That's all you got? System D, pussy, and coward?

Come on back when you have a suggestion for people who do not wish to become criminals in order to fight corruption.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 21:01 | 2094688 Meatier Shower
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See, that's the thing.

You can't fight this kind of corruption without being labeled a criminal by TPTB.

NDAA anyone?

“If the representatives of the people betray their constituents, there is then no resource left but in the exertion of that original right of self-defense which is paramount to all positive forms of government, and which against the usurpations of the national rulers, may be exerted with infinitely better prospect of success than against those of the rulers of an individual state…..”

- Federalist papers No.28

Wed, 01/25/2012 - 02:25 | 2095582 Bringin It
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Conrad  - Great stuff as usual.  Thanks

Good point about people with children.  I was amazed at how the sleep-walking public continues to throw their own children under the bus.

How to avoid taxes and stay out of jail?  Consume less.  Capitalise your expenses, ie. buy farm land and grow your own.  Brew your own beer.  Only spend on necessities.  Avoid taking profits until necessary.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 14:40 | 2093297 AnAnonymous
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Well, tomorrow is not the day that degraded state will strike US citizens.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 18:39 | 2094313 akak
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Somebody please wake me up when this Anonymous Asshole stops making inane and sweeping stereotypical condemnations of EVERY American in the monotonous course of his endlessly idiotic assertions that ALL Americans are to blame for the actions of a relative handful of sociopaths who control their oligarchic government and financial establishment, and when he begins making even some small inkling of sense.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 18:42 | 2094338 Flakmeister
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Isn't it a bitch when a whole society gets tarred with the same brush.....

I am pretty sure there were some SS guys that were not that bad....

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 15:01 | 2093406 walküre
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They can't escape the system that is created by them to their benefit. Plain and simple. There are virtually no loopholes. The payroll slaves are the drones the system needs to survive. Drones will not attempt to think outside of their box and drones will do as the masters suggest to them.

The playing field is not level, has never been level and unless we change something about it the coming generations will be enslaved to the very same system as well.

However, the drones that are starting to think outside the box can do something. They can organize and as many drones start to organize they are becoming a threat to the system. I think that's why unions were created in the first place but their mandate got muddied when the union hacks became a beneficiary of the system as well.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 16:15 | 2093744 LawsofPhysics
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No one said real change was "easy" dude.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 16:18 | 2093764 fuu
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So no suggestions just rhetoric?

Wed, 01/25/2012 - 02:27 | 2095585 Bringin It
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How to avoid taxes and stay out of jail?  Consume less.  Capitalise your expenses, ie. buy farm land and grow your own.  Brew your own.  Only spend on necessities.  Avoid taking profits until necessary.

Wed, 01/25/2012 - 03:57 | 2095652 DFCtomm
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They just spout shit they've read on the web nothing special. You got two choices stay out of the comment section of political posts or if you like poking retards with a stick, then have some fun.

Wed, 01/25/2012 - 10:15 | 2096061 fuu
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Tue, 01/24/2012 - 19:45 | 2094535 Malachi Constant
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They switch to contracting.

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 15:54 | 2493178 Overfed
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Some folks calls it a black market. I calls it a free market. Mmmm Hmmmm.....

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 14:39 | 2093293 zangs
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it would only work if practically everybody did it...they can't put everyone in jail.  

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 20:16 | 2094607 mkkby
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NO, NO, NO!.  You do not have to choose between not working and jail.  A consumerism strike is just as potent - and legal.  Just stop buying crap on credit.  Buy only essentials.  If we all did that the beast would starve. 

Yes, many drones would be out of work as the system crashes... but those jobs are false ponzi jobs anyway.

If you get your savings out of the banking system, ie PMs, you'll be striking the beast with both sides of your blade.

Now, how many of you have the will power to take this miniscule step for your own freedom and financial survival?  Very few of you do.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 14:42 | 2093308 CompassionateFascist
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Invest in lead. Use it when they come for you. For sure, no jail.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 15:04 | 2093421 fuu
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Should the children be sent to gandma's house first or should they stay behind the couch reloading magazines?

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 19:45 | 2094532 Malachi Constant
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Read carefully what the big boys do (Romney, Google) and do the same. Yes, it will cost you, but less than taxes. Better yet, as stated in another reply, avoid money altogether.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 21:45 | 2094779 TeMpTeK
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learn the secret of the "Trade or Business " scam... and then only pay taxes on what is truly taxable..

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 13:50 | 2093098 GFKjunior
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"Taxes are for regular guys and tools to the state" - my grandpa. I remember he used to walk around with a big wad of cash in his pockets and no identification other than an expired out of state drivers license. 


Unfortunately it was a lot easier years ago, now in days you can't even get by without a bank account. 

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 14:47 | 2093334 Chump
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" in days you can't even get by without a bank account."

Really?  News to me!

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 18:57 | 2094389 Cathartes Aura
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me too.

and zero plastic cards - how can that be??

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 14:17 | 2093213 Gavrikon
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I've no problem with paying taxes, just as long as those taxes are tariffs on foreign goods (especially on thoe from countries using virtually slave labor), and we abolish the income tax.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 14:31 | 2093261 catacl1sm
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You often say not to pay taxes. Any idea how to accomplish this without having all of your possesions taken away and going to jail for  tax evasion? This ins't Greece and I need a place for my kids to live.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 20:03 | 2094576 Malachi Constant
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I am neither an accountant, nor a financial advisor, nor a lawyer. I am as clueles and interested in the answer as the next guy. I am thinking along these lines:

  1. Move: the less neighbors know about you, the better.
  2. Accept that more freedom = less conveniences. If you want to go under the radar, forget domestic credit cards, for example.
  3. Stay inconspicuous. Your goal is to get more freedom, not expensive objects. If you want the State to think that you are poor, don't have a 2011 Cadillac in a driveway. 


Register an LLC in a state with the lowest corporate tax rate. Have this corp. pay you a very modest salary and keep the rest in its business account. Buy (or better rent) everything you can under corporate name.

Invest as much as you can in things that cannot be taken away: education and experiences.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 20:23 | 2094618 mkkby
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"I am as clueles and interested in the answer as the next guy...

Register an LLC in a state with the lowest corporate tax rate. Have this corp. pay you a very modest salary and keep the rest in its business account."

You certainly are.  In an LLC all the profit automatically flows into personal income.  You should shut up unless you actually know something or can footnote it.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 15:15 | 2093479 Silver Dreamer
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Get out of all debt too, and stop using their "money."

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 19:56 | 2094558 Clycntct
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" Remember, the ONLY way not to loose at a corrupt game is not to play."

Not true!

Mo Better Cheat.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 12:54 | 2092852 MillionDollarBonus_
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Wow. I have never read such amazingly delusional propaganda. The SPLC has already exposed the alternative market project for their affiliation with the right-wing extremist group "Oath Keepers". Oath Keepers are known to associate with both conspiracy theorists and confederate racists. This is not a credible group at all.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 12:56 | 2092867 Chump
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You get to use the SPLC only four (4) more times before it becomes obvious satire.  Plan accordingly.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 14:40 | 2093160 flattrader
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Don't need SPLC to tell us Alt Market is associated with the Oathkeepers.  The say so on their website.

What I really like about Oathkeepers is how they stood shoulder to shoulder with OWS and prevented demonstrating vets from being assaulted by cops.

They are my heroes.


Oh! They were late to the party and didn't to much of anything....but "infiltrate."

Vet were beaten bloody.  Google vets beaten

Wed, 01/25/2012 - 00:48 | 2095424 Dixie Rect
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"You get to use the SPLC only four (4) more times before it becomes obvious satire."

But us it five (5) more times and he gets a free set of steak knives!

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 13:01 | 2092891 LawsofPhysics
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LOL!  This guy has got to write for Jon Stewart.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 13:17 | 2092974 Spastica Rex
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Not to be a dick (well, maybe a little), but your shtick is getting a little boring. I hope you feel encouraged to continue doing what you do and - hopefully - add some variety to your delivery.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 13:18 | 2092980 ArgentDawn
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Wow, you just lost all crediility, if you ever had any..

Either that or your sarcasm is epic..

SPLC not propaganda itself.. you crack me up! :)

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 13:22 | 2092996 LynRobison
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Speaking of credibility, people who live in glass houses...

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 13:25 | 2093005 kito
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@mdb---your humor is so dry my laughter seems to have evaporated..........

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 14:22 | 2093224 Tristan Ludlow
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I would match Oath Keepers against SPLC anytime.  SPLC has no integrity whatsoever.  They lie, cheat and steal to make their point which is to line Potok's pockets with donations from complicit supporters.


Oath Keepers honor their oath to protect and defend.  SPLC has taken no oath.  Enough said.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 19:53 | 2094553 Inibo E. Exibo
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How many Oathkeepers in the armed forces have refused to engage in combat in Afghanistan?

How many Oathkeepers in state and local police forces have refused to arrest non-violent drug offenders and prostitutes?

When they actually start walking the talk I'll pay more attention to them. 

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 23:23 | 2095197 Tristan Ludlow
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The Oath Keepers obey constitutional orders. 


Your comment does not make any sense.  Who are you going to pay attention to? Drug dealers and prostitutes?  Good luck.  That is a pretty good crowd to run with. 

Wed, 01/25/2012 - 00:11 | 2095345 Seer
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"Oath Keepers honor their oath to protect and defend."

Not aimed at "Oath Keepers," but, really, just because someone recites some oath means they're credible?

EVERY fucking politician, and EVERY fucking military person HAS TO SWEAR TO UPHOLD AND DEFEND THE U.S. CONSTITUTION.  Look around and tell me how that works out.

But, I DO get it.  Just wondering at what point doing so actually translates into real support.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 14:33 | 2093275 Cindy_Dies_In_T...
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You know Million, I really had a thing for Hamy, but wow! You really get me hot! Keep up the trollish satire. You're too cute.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 14:45 | 2093316 bigkahuna
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Hey asshole, pull your head out of your third point. Every story you hear is someone's "conspiracy" - you just get to CHOOSE what to believe. Either you buy the conspiracy put out by your darling politicians and infalliable main stream media, or you go out and do your own fucking research and generate your own ideas. Fuck off.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 14:47 | 2093325 CompassionateFascist
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That's $PLC. $250 million on Wall St. Mostly via filthy rich Hollywood/NY Jew globalists. 

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 15:02 | 2093409 quasimodo
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"Not a credible group"

Then may I suggest you go post somewhere else you dumb fucker?

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 16:34 | 2093804 rew2
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The SPLC is full of delusional left wing propaganda.  According to them, opposition to illegal immigration makes you a hater.  OTOH, the extremist Brown Berets are not listed by them as a hate group.  Oath Keepers swear to uphold the Constitution, and that makes them dangerous right wingers in the eyes of the SPLC.  OTOH, the SPLC's leadership is on good terms with Bill Ayers, the Weather Underground terrorist.  Left wing extremists are fine by the SPLC.


Tue, 01/24/2012 - 12:55 | 2092860 s2man
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I don't think he can turn the ship at this late hour.  We're looking at a global meltdown.  Perhaps it would be better to let the inevitable SHTF on some clown's shift, and then elect Mr. Paul to clean up the mess.  I'd hate to see Ron take the blame.  Just sayin'.  I love RP.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 12:58 | 2092883 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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It can't wait.  If we wait, any chance of a future will die at the hands of Soros' New World Order.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 13:09 | 2092932 s2man
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Too true.  They will take advantage of the coming (planned?) collapse to eliminate any shred of our constitution which remains.

It would just suck for RP to get blamed for that which he has fought against for so long.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 13:08 | 2092904 Archduke
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The "Tea Party" movement was not started by Ron Paul.
It was appropriated from others, notably Karl Denninger
of The Market Ticker, who has since renounced its latent
hodgepodge radicalism.

And It's not about paying zero taxes, but rather excercise
more choice on how much and where they are allocated.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 13:16 | 2092970 sun tzu
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That's a lie. Denninger did not renounce it due to radicalism. He renounced it because some members that they elected to Congress refuse to call for deep enough cuts to areas including defense and entitlements. Denninger wants even more "radical" budget cuts than the Tea Party

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 13:33 | 2093017 Jefferson
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Next you'll be telling us that it was really Douchebag Denninger who invented the Internet. Can you say sock puppet? Tell the Douchebag to stick his Gingrich gavel up his ass.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 14:35 | 2093280 Cindy_Dies_In_T...
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Uh Oh, Jefferson got booted off KD's site. Lighten up dude.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 16:17 | 2093758 rodocostarica
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Hey archduke learn something. It is called the TEA PARTY becuase Ron Pual had a moneybomb fundraiser on the anniversary of the Boston Tea Party December 16, 2007. Raised 6,000,000.00

And the name stuck TEA PARTY = RON PAUL dirtbag. Get your facts straight.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 18:25 | 2094266 Archduke
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that's revisionism.


boston tea party protests have been associated with libertarian movements since the '70s,

though they often were excuses for dressed up anarcho civil war reenactment fops in frocks.


ron paul's tea party money bomb was just one of  his many campaign fund raisers organized

on historic dates.  in fact his guy fawkes money bomb preceeded the tea-party anniversary.

he certainly was libertarian-leaning back then, but it was as a republican just as today.

so there is precedent of his using the term, but it was not used as a group brand in 2007.


the branding of "tea party" as a viral movement did not occur until Denninger's plea to mail

a tea bag to congress. then of course it was later re-hijacked by ron paul and palin et al.

the key is tea-party began as a non-partisan (not even ron paul) protest pushing for reforms.

these reforms had crossovers with RP and libertarian principles, but not all.  mainly they

concern rebalancing economic policy and restoration of rule of law to capital markets.


Tue, 01/24/2012 - 19:58 | 2094347 akak
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You are either stupid or a liar, or more likely, stupid AND a liar.

It is simply a fact that the current Tea Party movement began SOLELY as a result of Ron Paul's 2007 Tea Party money bomb, and was only hijacked many months later by both Douchinger and CNBC's Rick Santelli, among others, eventually including Dick Armey, Sarah Palin and the entire Republican Party establishment.  Ron Paul is its father and sole biological parent, however, regardless of how many times the Tea Party orphan has been adopted (or kidnapped) by others looking to either neuter it or turn it to their own advantage.

Your own attempt at historical revisionism is as weak as it is repulsive in its dishonesty and denial of the truth.


Tue, 01/24/2012 - 20:20 | 2094610 outofhere
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Trolls are everywhere!  Here's a quote from a post on Yahoo I happened across regarding the TSA/Rand Paul story.

"The TSA should have let  him board the plane and then thrown him out the door at 30,000 feet."

Yahoo posts... depressing representation of uneducated voters.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 16:38 | 2093818 rew2
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The Tea Party began with the Ron Paul money bomb held on the anniversary of the Boston Tea Party in 2007.

But most Tea Partiers are ignorant of the origins of their own movement, and eagerly rally around neocons who will happily spend this country into oblivion.


Tue, 01/24/2012 - 13:21 | 2092990 LeBalance
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Walk Away

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 13:52 | 2093104 Ruffcut
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Or just change the channel. The political system is the worst reality TV, ever played. Watch it and you be the one getting played.

I would rather count the corn kernals in my poop than watch or vote for any of these asshats.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 13:28 | 2093022 FL_Conservative
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If you read my profile you will see that, when I registered at ZH, I was more "Rand" than "Ron".  Given the evolution of the GOP primary process and the ad nauseum debates, I have not only fully aligned myself with Dr. Paul but have also managed to bring over my wife and our oldest son (now 18) to agree that Dr. Paul is "da man".  Believe it or not, last night was the first debate I was able to get my wife to watch (she abhors the process) and she was stunned with how the debate focused on questions to Mitt and Newt.  I think that, as much as Ron Paul's responses to questions about military spending got her to "see the light".  We'll see how many of my Florida bretheren are there also, but I think Ron Paul will have a very good showing here.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 16:04 | 2093701 RiverRoad
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FL Conservative:

Here's one of your FL brethren who's with you, and there are more of us everyday.  Democrats are coming over in droves.  Fascinating.  Too bad they can't vote in the primary.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 13:41 | 2093052 Chupacabra-322
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Worth repeating LOUD & CLEAR!!!

"I believe the Federal government has grown out of control, threatening the Rights, Liberties, and Property of the People.


This is being done at the Executive, Legislative, and Judicial level. This is in direct opposition to the Constitution and the Founding Fathers vision for the Federal government.


Because I believe this, today I exercised my right as a Free Citizen, and did not visit the White House. This was not about politics or party, as in my opinion both parties are responsible for the situation we are in as a country. This was about a choice I had to make as an INDIVIDUAL.


This is the only public statement I will be making on this topic. TT"

-Tim Thomas

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 14:51 | 2093353 therearetoomany...
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Boycott the State of the Union.  Teel everyone you know not to watch it. 


Nothing but a big paid political advertisement.  F**k oblamer.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 16:03 | 2093692 Chupacabra-322
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@ therearetoomany, Obama's just a Puppet.  Fuck the Psycopath/Sociopath/Global Elite is more like it.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 13:42 | 2093062 Sudden Debt
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Anybody who doesn't vote for Ron Paul is a actual terrorist even without knowing.
Patriots vote for paul because he defends what's best for the nation. For what million have faught for and died for.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 20:33 | 2094641 outofhere
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According to the 9,383 posts i was reading on a Yahoo TSA/Rand Paul article there were approximately 5,000 "actual terrorists" there alone.  Here was one.

"The TSA should have let him on the plane and thrown him out the door at 30,000 feet."

Yahoo news posts... depressing.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 14:11 | 2093190 fiddler_on_the_roof
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or write in Huckabee, my ideal candidate now forced out by elites.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 18:52 | 2094367 akak
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Huckleberry's folksy, downhome charm belies the fact that he is fundamentally just another pro-status-quo, big government neocon warvangelist.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 15:00 | 2093400 Kastorsky
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7 signs?

I know of ONE 100% proof sign of a good man:

1. Is he an anti-semite?!

All you need.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 15:57 | 2093665 RiverRoad
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Mr. Lennon Hendrix:

"Elect Ron Paul."  By getting the word out as written in this article.  Politics is the art of the possible as stated by this author, "If we fail to educate ourselves and others on the warning signs listed above, then political options will disappear."  If we preach only to the choir, what good does that do?  If we rail at TPTB but are defeatest, what good does that do?  STAY POSITIVE and spread the word.

Wed, 01/25/2012 - 00:23 | 2093766 BlackholeDivestment
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...just had to come back inside the Fight Club for a moment before I head back out inside the noose of the Beltway Bandit. I'm inside the carwash about to pay and the guy at the register has some suit signing some paper with a list of others that signed their names. I asked the guy in the suit what the deal was. He said his government credit card did not work. I then see him drive off in one of those black cars, for the State of The Union I'm sure, with the strange looking post protruding from the back trunk and with those clear thin lights in the back window. 

...I have been having fun with the public, as a result of baring witness of such a patheic spectical, I can't stop telling the story. It's fun to see the reaction of people that are clearly for the dipshit in the White House. On a side not, speaking of dipshits, I had to roll off a few numbers for some people seeking info on the local housing scene. They never heard of Zillow and have no clue about what they are doing. They got the local downlow and stats, plus the carwash. My advice was to rent if they had too. Lol. I explain the 4% increase in tax on local home assessments and the 2% increase in value, unlike the rest of the country, lol, but you could tell they just were not going to get it. I'm in Hell, right? Lol. 

Wed, 01/25/2012 - 03:47 | 2095647 DFCtomm
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Then what? If the GOP and Democrats are both as corrupt as you say they are then they'll block his every move. I guess Rand will ride to his aid with one senatorial vote. One person alone, even the president, isn't going to fix this. It's all coming down.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 12:45 | 2092812 Bam_Man
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How to avoid voting for an Elitist Puppet?

Don't vote.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 13:01 | 2092888 aheady
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Tue, 01/24/2012 - 13:05 | 2092914 Oztralian
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Don't vote? Then stop babbling and whining.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 13:08 | 2092923 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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The electoral college renders your vote meaningless, and that is if the vote somehow sneaks by DIEBOLD.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 13:28 | 2093019 Strike Back
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Dead people voting renders your vote meaningless too.  900 dead voted in the SC primary.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 13:49 | 2093089 Jack Burton
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900? Prove it.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 13:58 | 2093127 malalingua
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you're right, it was 953 dead people voting in SC. There is this cool search feature, called Google. A simple search would provide you the info. It's taking the time to do it!

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 14:53 | 2093355 CompassionateFascist
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For an entire state, that is remarkably few. Cook County, Illinois does way better; tens of thousands vote every 2 years. In fact, Cook Cty corpses elected JFK. So stop complaining.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 15:17 | 2093502 malalingua
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what illogical rubbish is that? It's that kind of thinking that gives us a president like bush or o, stop being so submissive!

Never doubt that a small group of committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has - Margaret Mead

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 15:18 | 2093504 weinerdog43
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Prove it dickwad.  And not something from 1961 either.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 15:42 | 2093605 11b40
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Not sure if you have an agenda, or simply have a problem with reading comprehension.  The very article you link to prove your point says nothing about anyone voting in the primary last week.

"What isn’t known, however, is when exactly these votes were cast, and for now what impact they could have had on any races, if any."

I live in SC and follow this closely.  This report was produced by the DMV and covers a long period of time.  It has not been cross-checked for errors and little things like Juniors, Seniors, Thirds, or people with the same/similar names....but it will be.  Regardless, it had zero to do with Saturday's primary votes.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 16:05 | 2093708 malalingua
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Columbia - South Carolina's attorney general, Republican Alan Wilson, has recently notified the U.S. Justice Department that 953 ballots belonging to dead people were handed over in the South Carolina presidential primary on January 21, 2012. Read more:

You're a different kind of troll! Look at the date.

Wed, 01/25/2012 - 06:44 | 2095737 therearetoomany...
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How about New Hampshire...


Pollster:  "How would we know they were dead"

Pollster:  "We don't require an ID"


Tue, 01/24/2012 - 16:10 | 2093715 RiverRoad
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Strike Back:

Re "dead people voting".......There they go again with the Absentee Ballots.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 14:50 | 2093345 therearetoomany...
therearetoomanyidiots's picture

The mush minded masses watching jer z shore and keeping up with the kardashians mostly cancel out all our votes.  


Vote Ron Paul.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 16:19 | 2093765 VelvetHog
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Chloe is my favourite.  I'd vote for that!

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 14:51 | 2093348 ali-ali-al-qomfri
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How is that “billions, trillions…” can be entrusted/processed/cleared through the credit card system every minute. Security access systems are entrusted to protect server farms, etc.

Yet the vote counting is by chicken scratch and set to a Corporation to count. WTF.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 13:11 | 2092939 pods
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I think you have that backwards. A vote IN the system is a vote FOR the system.


Tue, 01/24/2012 - 15:15 | 2093476 MachoMan
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I think george carlin beat that horse to death (with a big rubber dildo).

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 13:45 | 2093071 Sudden Debt
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Thise who don't vote should be kicked out of america. Now is the last chance to save America. By not voting you give your vote to the banks!

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 13:54 | 2093111 pods
pods's picture

Okay, so by your logic there should be a law mandating voting or forced expatriation?

Does it need to be more specific?

Can I vote for anyone?  Or does there need to be some rules as to the choices I can make seeing this is such an important duty?


Tue, 01/24/2012 - 13:54 | 2093119 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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I won't vote for anyone except Paul.  So if he isn't on the ballet and I don't vote, am I a terrorist?

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 14:16 | 2093207 chubbar
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I'll write Ron Paul in on the ballot, like I did in 08. I have to live with myself and will not vote for the lesser of two evils.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 15:23 | 2093532 DaveyJones
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no, but we'll still hold you indefinitely.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 21:27 | 2094742 Meatier Shower
Meatier Shower's picture

And go where? Back to Europe to live with others like you?

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 14:00 | 2093138 Confused
Confused's picture

That old gag?!


"If you don't like it leave!" Hahaha, I thought most of us here didn't need to resort to such logic.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 14:21 | 2093221 walküre
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So "go vote" and be a fully recognized whiner? WTF is the point? Stop listening to the script! Fuck the programming guide! Anyone can complain and whine regardless if they are stupid enough to vote for one or the other scam or especially if they abstain from voting (or visiting the White House - thanks TT) and keep exposing the fraud! But hey, if voting makes you somehow feel better. Go for it. Do you get a "Rush" from it?

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 13:22 | 2092999 DaveyJones
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even Pinnochio danced for a fat crook

...until he was a real man

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 12:46 | 2092814 williambanzai7
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Tue, 01/24/2012 - 12:49 | 2092836 francis_sawyer
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I'll take mine over easy with a dash of tabasco please...

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 12:53 | 2092854 baby_BLYTHE
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Still waiting for Humpty Newt's great fall.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 13:01 | 2092879 Dr. Richard Head
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I'm still wondering how Newt won SC when he had to cancel his speaking event in Charleston due to lack of attendence, yet Ron Paul had over 1,000 show up to hear him.  The political/banking/corporation machine that controls the people is just too pervasive for a man of truth and integrity....For now at least.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 13:09 | 2092928 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Tue, 01/24/2012 - 13:21 | 2092994 francis_sawyer
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I've got an idea... Let's count all those electronically cast ballots over here in a secret location (so we can be DOUBLY sure that the outcome was correct)...

Need more convenience than that?

OK... Just punch in your vote here on your Twitter account & we'll tabulate the results for you in real time (you can have breadsticks to go with that if you want for a small fee)...

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 13:45 | 2093072 Plata con Carne
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Diebold and The Media

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 14:53 | 2093369 ali-ali-al-qomfri
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Tue, 01/24/2012 - 15:21 | 2093523 CompassionateFascist
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No, Sir. The Lizard won with actual and for real VOTES. That is where this country is now. Ron Paul's values and ideas do not correspond to the values and interests of a corporate-liberal (Romney), neo-conned( Gingrich) party and its base. Sad, but true. Ron Paul needs to go 3P, but evidently will not do so because the RNC has threatened to trash Rand's political future if he does. Put it another way: Ron Paul is NOT THE EXPECTED ONE. 

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 15:50 | 2093642 11b40
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I really don't doubt that Newt got most of the votes in SC, but I also believe the voting machines are rigged.  It became blatantly obvious when Alvin Greene won the SC Dem primary in the Senate race against Jim Demint.  A total loser who did not even campaign vs a retired judge and army officer who was also a avid outdoosman, and who campaigned throughout the state.  Then, When the results were challenged, it was quickly swept under the rug.  I will never believe that one was not rigged from the day Greene paid his filing fee.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 17:06 | 2093920 JR
JR's picture

If the stock market is manipulated, if the BLS is manipulated, if the media is manipulated, is it safe to assume that election results cannot be manipulated?

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 13:13 | 2092935 Tsunami Wave
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He's such an over-entitled, hyperarrogrant prick, lying sack of shit.  Every time anyone questions him on anything, his retarded patronizing and deflection tactics come out.  Whenever you hear him start a sentence with "listen, ______", "Let me tell you something, ______", "I'm going to say what I said before ______" (Fill Name in Blank) in his dumbass answers come out in his typically childish-condescending-egotistical voice.  You immediately know to ignore everything he has to say.  He's also full of shit when he says he wants to End Da Fed, change our monetary and fiscal policy, etc. etc.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 14:38 | 2093291 DaveyJones
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he's more of a dump than a hump

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 13:04 | 2092902 Rainman
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I like it. Add: Sarcasm is anger's ugly cousin.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 13:17 | 2092978 sun tzu
sun tzu's picture

Gingrinch is an evil bastard just like 0bozo and his puppetmasters

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 15:16 | 2093487 Ferrari
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Fabulous work again Willy.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 16:45 | 2093838 JR
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Interesting that together Arch Zionist Adelson and Israeli-controlled puppet Newt Gingrich already are known as Humpty & Dumpty.

The King’s men could not put a disaster like Gingrich back together again in time to win the presidency, but Billionaire Zionist Sheldon Adelson, Humpty, is putting Newt, Dumpty, back together starting with huge infusions of millions in cash in the South Carolina primary, and now the Florida primary. Adelson, a Casino magnate, uses his wealth to push expansionist settlements in Israel while his Israeli mouthpiece Gingrich for president mouths the Golda Meir line that Palestinians are an “invented people.”

"Sheldon has always loved Newt," The Daily Beast quoted a friend of Adelman's saying late last year. "He stuck with him when he stumbled. Newt, I think, is very reflective of Sheldon's mindset. Particularly with Israel."

"There is not a better advocate for Israel," Adelson told the editor of the Jewish Week last year, when he called the editor to berate him over an article that criticized Gingrich's Israel bona fides.

Israel creates a super PAC to attack Ron Paul

This video exposes Israel's increasing role in American politics, which has led to the Iraq war, September 11, 2001, and a great deal of other tragedies that have befallen the United States.

Israel's lobby in America, AIPAC, is the only foreign agent in America that does not have to register under the Foreign Agent Registration Act. Almost every major American politician in the last decade has either met with AIPAC or flown to Israel to receive approval before running a campaign. Many of America's congressman have admitted that they constantly ask how Israel feels about a bill before voting on it.

And, on a side note, this video exposes how American zionists like Sheldon Adelson pay politicians such as Newt Gingrich to attack Ron Paul because he doesn't support Israel. Now we know why Gingrich called Paul's foreign policy "dangerous."

Goldman Sachs was the largest contributor to President Obama's 2008 Presidential campaign and it has been widely estimated that American supporters of Israel contribute between 35-75% of all political contributions in American elections.


Tue, 01/24/2012 - 19:38 | 2094506 Cathartes Aura
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all in the family.

A wealthy supporter of Newt Gingrich will donate $5 million to a “super PAC” supporting his candidacy, providing a significant infusion of cash to the group as it seeks to defend Mr. Gingrich in Florida ahead of next week’s Republican primary, a person with knowledge of the contribution said on Monday.

The supporter, Dr. Miriam Adelson, is the wife of Sheldon Adelson, a longtime Gingrich friend and conservative ally who contributed $5 million to the super PAC, Winning Our Future, earlier this month. The couple has now given a total of at least $10 million to Winning Our Future.

again, definitions - whose future?

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 12:48 | 2092822 NOTW777
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wow koolaid for breakfast

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 12:47 | 2092827 BillyBoy22
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Dont vote/relocate?

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 14:07 | 2093170 Conrad Murray
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Vote with a bullet, or vote with your feet. Everything else is masturbation.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 12:49 | 2092830 Chump
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Vote with a bullet.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 13:08 | 2092930 lolmao500
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Bullets of truth.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 13:12 | 2092947 Chump
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All I have are lead.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 14:41 | 2093300 Uncle Remus
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Ya shoots what ya gots.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 12:48 | 2092832 Srgato
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You're missing the mark with a blanket condemnation of the military qua military.  Get to know some soldiers and officers who aren't being fed into the Washington bureaucracy.  Soldiers are some of our best people and we're going to need them.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 14:16 | 2092948 pods
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Whether or not they are good people is besides the point.

Their main (I would argue sole) purpose is to defend USD hegemony.


Tue, 01/24/2012 - 15:51 | 2093651 11b40
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That may be true from the perspective of senior political leadership, but no one has told the ran & file....and they may not agree with the concept.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 19:43 | 2094531 Cathartes Aura
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who pays the military?

who are participating in "urban" drills lately, LA & Little Rock, at least?

I understand there is resistance to participating in what they volunteered to serve, but I can't fully trust people that volunteer to kill other people in their own nationstates, that shows a distinct lack of awareness and critical thinking.

but I'd love to be proved wrong, truly.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 13:53 | 2093113 Jack Burton
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Maybe when we had a draft Army. As for today?

Plenty of good men/women buy into the propaganda that keeps Americas empire expanding and Israel under protection. That they believe this crap makes me question how their thought processes are working. They can't SEE what they are being used for. Or is the military now just another JOB?

Service for pay? In my day our pay was so low nobody could claim to be serving for money.  Of course that is why they had a draft! No choice pal!

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 15:16 | 2093496 walküre
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Unemployed military and military trying to make a living on diluted currency are the best allies in the war against the establishment.

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