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Guest Post: How Badly Does Wall Street Want A Romney Presidency?

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Submitted by John Aziz of Azizonomics,

Apparently, this badly:

But this is chickenshit money — it doesn’t even add up to Lloyd Blankfein’s 2007 bonus.

Let’s see where the real money is going.

Markets couldn’t seem to care less:

Markets are still well up during Obama’s presidency.

So does Wall Street really want a Romney Presidency? Or could Wall Street not care less, because they know that both sides will gladly do their bidding? After all it’s not like Obama has tried to jail corrupt bankers — Corzine, who after raiding segregated accounts is surely up there with the most corrupt guys on Wall Street — has been bundling for Obama as recently as April.

Ignore the chickenshit donations. If markets fall significantly between now and November — 1300, 1200, 1100, 1000 — the powers that be on Wall Street want a Romney presidency. After all, it’s not only possible but extremely easy to deliberately crash the market when you have at your disposal algorithmic trading programs that can buy the spike and sell the dip 40 times a second (that’s 2400 times a minutes, 144,000 times an hour). No S&P crash? They’re happy to stick with Obama.


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Mon, 08/13/2012 - 15:05 | 2701516 bob_dabolina
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Maybe ZH can clarify.

Does this take into account SuperPac donations from WS?

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 15:07 | 2701540 Clueless Economist
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What happens if Wall Street wants Gary Johnson to win?

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 15:09 | 2701548 Michael
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Revenge votes for Obama is the solution. Black balling Dr Ron Paul was not a smart move this time.

No self respecting Ron Paul supporter will vote for Mitt Romney since he is a wholly owned subsidiary of the Rothschild's and Rockefeller banksters just as Obama is.

The Presidency is a wholly owned subsidiary of the international banking cartel, multi national corporations, and Goldman Sachs/JP Morgan.

Many millions of Ron Paul supporters like me will be voting directly for Obama in November in a political strategy so we can get a real Liberty candidate on the ballot in 2016.

If you don't like Obama next year, then impeach him for illegally attacking Libya, gun running fast and furious, and being disqualified for his forged birth certificate.

Fox news is an infomercial for the republicans and the GOP. MSNBC is an infomercial for the democrats, ABC, NBC, CBS, and CNN are left leaning, brainwashing, social engineering scum. Try not to get your news from them.

What's Romney gonna give me? Will he cancel the TSA/government 1.2 million hollow point bullet order, abolish NDAA, and the Patriot act? Then fuck him.

The war on a Military Tactic(Terrorism) used by The Base(in Arabic Al-Qaeda) is idiotic. The base doesn't even have any tanks or boats.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 15:15 | 2701560 Paul Atreides
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The political process is dead to all but Wall Street. Only an armed revolution, a removal of all in office, burning down the federal reserve and member banks will fix this republic...

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 15:16 | 2701584 Michael
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The complete and total worldwide economic will take care of most of that, thank God.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 15:40 | 2701682 Paul Atreides
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No it will not, the people in power will create a new order out of chaos if they are not bought to justice or eliminated.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 15:58 | 2701758 Sam Clemons
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Yep - exactly.  That is why central banks are buying gold.  "Look, we have the gold still.  We know we messed up, but this new system with our gold will work.  We promise."

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 18:24 | 2702214 Jack Napier
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You are correct about the candidates, Michael, but you should know that Ron Paul's wife, daughters, and formerly his father have been involved with the Masonic order in spite of his denying that he is a member and that he respects the organization. The only person I have seen who is free from these Luciferians masquerading as Jews is Pastor Chuck Baldwin, but he moved to Montana to run for Governor and looks to be out of it. Vote with your dollars and buy gold and silver, it's the only vote that matters.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 20:05 | 2702472 economics9698
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Paul is right, the central bankers need to be killed.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 15:58 | 2701764 no taste
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How Stupid Are Americans?

Do you want the red can of shit or the blue can of shit?

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 16:28 | 2701869 Michael
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How about we FIX what's broken and just go back to the letter of the US Constitution?

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 18:31 | 2702232 Dolar in a vortex
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That's a nice sentiment but I'm sure you're not that naive or you wouldn't be on ZH.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 23:47 | 2702973 Redhotfill
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How about we FIX what's broken and just go back to the letter of the US Constitution?


Golly we cant read them big words in that old piece o' paper.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 18:47 | 2702268 myshadow
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"ABC, NBC, CBS, and CNN are left leaning, brainwashing, social engineering scum. Try not to get your news from them."


You're full of shit.

ABC is owned by Disney

CBS is controlled by Sumner Redstone through National Amusements, its parent.

NBC is a joint venture of Comcast and General Electric since 2011 (and before that, jointly owned by GE and current Universal Music Group.


FOX= Duh

There isn't a single media outlet in this country that doesn't have a republican/conservative ownership.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 15:49 | 2701725 boogerbently
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How come the gun wielding "crazies" are out shooting innocent civilians, instead of Corzine, Blankfein, Dimon....

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 19:00 | 2702317 Sam Clemons
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The people who are smart enough and have something to lose (family, job, wealth, respect) do figure out who the true enemies of freedom are, but have too much to lose.  

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 23:48 | 2702977 fattail
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have too much to lose.....give them time.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 15:51 | 2701727 Dr Benway
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Let me ask something that is never considered. WHY have the current voting process in the US?


Depending on which voting process is chosen, the ultimate winner can be chosen, that is how much voting processes matter.


Yet we never ever discuss this in politics. We say "democracy" and then pretend that the greatest part of the problem is not in the implementation.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 22:32 | 2702878 logicalman
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"Democracy" - the tyranny of the many over the few.

Tue, 08/14/2012 - 00:03 | 2702997 Dr Benway
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Well IMO there is no better alternative, and we need to make decisions that affect everyone sometimes. I have no naive assumption that democracy automatically leads to good results, but as I said I know of no better alternative.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 15:27 | 2701628 Neethgie
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Funny thing is that people still believe in the rothschild and rockerfeller bullshit, given that all the villains are laid out for you quite plain and clear to see, why do you find the need to invent a bogeyman? 

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 15:39 | 2701660 NidStyles
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Nope. it's even funnier that people like to deny things that are avidly published and promoted in the Media. Then again you probably still think Bill Gates was at one time the richest man in the world. Nevermind that there are brokers raking in $100 Billion a year in sales with a 5% cut, and some of those guy's have been doing it for decades. That's ok though, WSJ told you who the enemy was right? 

You're so confused that you don't even know what to believe. See, the media is working just fine.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 15:39 | 2701678 Neethgie
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avidly published and promoted in the Media.  ?!?!?! WHERE, not some bullshit conspiraloony site, an actual reputable site?


Nevermind that there are broker's raking in $100 Billion a year in sales with a 5% cut ?!?! evidence please?

See all this crap when the evidence is clearly laid out? Where are the brokers making 100bil a year? Where is this keyser soze? Where is the pressure coming from agent cleon?. Honestly the lack of evidence is the most startling thing, you keep saying its avidly published but most of the time its only there if you want to see it.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 15:43 | 2701686 NidStyles
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Reputable site? It's in the paper news buddy, they've been printing it in Newsweek, The Economist, WSJ for the past 30 years. The London markets are ran by the Rothschilds, did you really not know this? 


The evidence is released quarterly in Public revenue's of each broker. It's public information if you know what you are looking for and know how to read the information as presented.


Speak proper English boy, not that Chav shit. 

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 15:44 | 2701696 Neethgie
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I asked you for evidence and you have given none? 

Standard conspiracy bullshit.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 15:56 | 2701743 Paul Atreides
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Plenty of evidence here:

The Money Masters A full documentary on the history of US Anglo banking:

The Federal Reserve Banking Cartel

Part I

Part II

Part III

Part IV

Part IV

Also try readying "The Creature From Jekyll Island"

And here is a quote direct from David Rockefellers memoirs:

"Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as 'internationalists' and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure - one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it."




Mon, 08/13/2012 - 16:03 | 2701786 Neethgie
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Im hardly going to accept a youtube video and some shoddy wordpress articles as evidence when someone claimed it was in the mainstream media.

however i couldnt find the david rockerfeller quote outside of conspiracy websites.. however i did find wiki quote directly gave him this quotation 


I don't recall that I have said — and I don't think that I really feel — that we need a world government. We need governments of the world that work together and collaborate. But, I can't imagine that there would be any likelihood — or even that it would be desirable — to have a single government elected by the people of the world.


now actual proof rather than conspiracy bullshit that is nearly always wrong.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 16:15 | 2701808 Paul Atreides
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Main stream media isn't there to inform you it is there to control you. It is owned by the same banks and the corporations that have taken over the USA.

If you are unwilling to review the information I provide or even read the articles or watch the documentary before replying and seek to call them shoddy sources when in fact Dean Henderson, G. Edward Griffin and Bill Still are widely respected authors/researchers and write highly sourced material then I have nothing more to say to you, good day.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 17:18 | 2702033 jayman21
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You are missing out.  I have found many useful links to books and documentaries from other people who left comments.  Even if you totally disagree, this site is about provoking thought.

Here is one from me.  It is about 6 hours and walks through history.

Also look up are humans smarter than yeasts.  10 min youtube video you may or may not like.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 17:19 | 2702054 AGuy
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FWIW: One large crack with the One World Gov't Theory:

If everyone is under the same gov't, how does the gov't go to war? Attack the Moon? War has probably been the biggest political motivator to push an agenda on the people.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 17:32 | 2702091 NidStyles
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WTF do think Terrorism is for? Why do you think there are still links being found between all of the major Intelligences agencies and the Terrorist groups? 

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 22:38 | 2702889 logicalman
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Mon, 08/13/2012 - 22:37 | 2702887 logicalman
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Read the words you quote carefully.

I can't imagine that there would be any likelihood — or even that it would be desirable — to have a single government elected by the people of the world.

He wasn't a fan of 'elected' governments at all. methinks.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 15:57 | 2701755 NidStyles
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You really think I will waste my time here by digging up the information that is known by just about everyone else here already? Do you really think you are that important that I would think your ridicule would harm me here? Do you honestly think that I give a shit if you know the truth or anything about what is actually going on?


I posted to point you in the right direction on where to find what you were seeking, if you are too damn lazy to go find it on your own I don't give two shits about you. I'm not beholden to your selfish desires. I do not owe you anything. I do not have to prove myself to you, because you have nothing of value for me. I am not your servant, and certainly I am not concerned if you get eaten up in this system. I'm more likely to put you out of your misery than to help you grow up and learn to stand on your own. Re-think your being on this site, and seriously think about your position in the world in an honest manner. You are just a bag of useless flesh here. Say whatever you want, but understand that none of us owe you damn thing, and if you can't follow the leads that are posted here without demanding us to waste our time to educate you, you are probably wasting your time on this site. 

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 16:03 | 2701783 Paul Atreides
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Well said +1, I spent 5 minutes linking my comment but it wasn't for him it was for anyone else who happens upon this thread.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 16:20 | 2701829 NidStyles
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He's confused on what this site is actually about, and I doubt anyone cares about him given how everyone here is normally. Heck this is a quiet and passive day compared to normal. 


Why is that these guys always appear when I'm actually in the mood for posting? 

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 16:05 | 2701792 Neethgie
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Sorry but when you make a claim the onus is on you to provide evidence which you have failed to do, thats quite pathetic really. Notice the quite violent end to your posting? pathetic, im on this site to get news and read things not to convince myself of myths

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 16:16 | 2701822 NidStyles
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I never made any cliams, this has been covered on this site before junior. You are still under the impression that I or anyone else here is under the burden to prove something to you, you are very mistaken. No one here owe's you anything, and you are here at our detriment to benefit yoruself. You have the roles mixed up in that moronic mind of yours. 

Violent? Since when is speaking the truth violent? Violent would be me using physcial force against you. Holy shit you are a confused individual.


Mon, 08/13/2012 - 16:19 | 2701833 Neethgie
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" I'm more likely to put you out of your misery than to help you grow up and learn to stand on your own" passive aggressive much?

you were the one who claimed the existance of so called evidence, you have failed to provide any, therefore one can assume you are lying... "the rothschilds control the london markets" where is the evidence for this?


im sorry but if i claim the sun is a spacehopper i better have evidence to back it up...

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 16:27 | 2701860 NidStyles
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Oh now you're my shrink? Nope you just now encountered me. You do not understand this site very well. There are no rules for conduct here. You are on your own. If your skin is that thin, you will find yourself constantly abused and frustrated. As for my posting, go back. I say what I think to everyone. Passive Agressive would be me not saying anything but behaving intolerant to you. Do I need to show you how to use Google as well, so you can actually look up these terms before you post them will-nilly? 


I pointed you in the right direction because you asked. The topic is far too broad for anyone to want to waste their time educating you. The burden of understanding is on you. Thinking on term's of proof is thinking on faith based on the isntiutiton. That is the nature of statism. Maybe you haven't noticed, but you're on a site ran by a bunch of Market Anarchists, and particupated by Market Anarchists. You are the minority here, and your scratchy Statist voice has no sway here. 


No if you make that claim, you make that claim. No one cares here. Just don't expect anyone to get their panties in a wad asking you to prove it. We don't do that shit here. If you want proof of something, or want to know something, you ask or look into it yoursef. 

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 16:30 | 2701876 Anonymous X
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Can't tell if troll...or extremely stupid.....


...anywho, i see you've only been a member for 4 weeks, that's just as noob as you can get. Welcome, and im sure you'll learn your place eventually.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 16:59 | 2701958 roonbox
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Anyone who still, to this day, buys all this conspiracy Rothchild bollox, gives way too much credit to the intelligence of these conspirators.. You are living in the past. I am completely aware that lots go on behind closed doors and that all governments lie.. But this shite needs to be updated, bigtime.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 17:26 | 2702062 NidStyles
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I can be sure that they are at least as intelligent as myself. If this is the case then they are pretty scary people, not to be doubted. I'm nothing more than trained predator with expansive experience and beyond normal visualization abilities. They are trained Aristocrats with at least the same capacity and endless finances to support them. 

To doubt that there are people of that nature, is to doubt reality or individual motives. 

I'm intelligent enough to plan out how to infiltrate, assault and plan an escape from an objective without notice, and never have a single person be aware that I was ever there. The people that conceive of this sort of training work for the underlings of those higher bankers, so it's not unreasonable to acknowledge that there is a mutual awareness of skillset in such a top down organization. I have learned in my time that you can never count on or assume that your adversary is ignorant, or unintelligent. The moment you do, they will surprise you. It's pure arrogance to think and say that another person is not at the least intelligent or cunning. 

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 19:39 | 2702418 FeralSerf
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He's a Zionist troll.  He works for the Zionist media and their Zionist masters.  And he demands someone here shows him in that Zionist media that there is evidence of Zionist conspiracies.   His job is to make the unsuspecting believe the Zionist media is actually telling the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.  He tipped his hand with his ridicule of conspiracy.   Conspirators, like Mr. Cheney, would like us to believe that everyone that believes conspiracies exist wear tinfoil hats.  One wonders why Congress passed laws against conspiracies if they don't exist.  The official version of 9/11 is also a conspiracy, of course.

Want to bet on what his take on 9/11 or the USS Liberty is?  

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 23:09 | 2702924 taeonu
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'We are grateful to The Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine, and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subject to the lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is now more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination [read as 'democracy'] practiced in past centuries."

-David Rothchild

-June 5, 1991


Those respectible media organizations?

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 15:38 | 2701671 Paul Atreides
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Rockefeller and Rothschilds are at helm of this steaming pile of shit and they were at the center of the creation of the federal reserve and that is a proven fact. Learn your history before you come to ZH spouting nonsense.



Mon, 08/13/2012 - 15:42 | 2701687 boogerbently
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Would QE3 be good or bad for obama?

Ben B. doesn't want to appear "politically" motivated....but....

Would QE3 make the market appear "recovering",

Or, would it make BO's addition to the deficit appear greater?

Would enough voters know the difference?

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 16:05 | 2701793 dracos_ghost
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The Bernank could care less about appearing "politically motivated". He's "Mr Princeton Economics" and has never mentioned Global Labor Arbitrage as the real culprit behind employment problems in the US. He's has to pull to the trigger now that there is a horse race. It's just a matter of how much mid September.

Case 1: Obama tracks to win election.

QE3 with moderate value. Allows him to socialize more ass-raping of the American people at a diffused rate in Obama's second term.

Case 2: Romney tracks to win election.

Benny goes full retard with QE3++. His little place in economics history is threatened with removal from the Fed so he'll have to blow his wad. Not only with there be ass-raping of the American people, it will be dry penetration and no cuddling afterward.

Case 3: Dead Heat.

This would probably be a wildcard but Case 1 fits here.

Bottom line, Global Wall Street gets their fiat fix any which way it goes. So sad. 


Mon, 08/13/2012 - 16:32 | 2701887 Pareto
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"goes full retard with Qe+++".  That!  Is fucking funny!!

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 15:43 | 2701689 Neethgie
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No, it is not a proven fact.. There is no proof aside from the bullshit on conspiracy theory  websites..

Rockerfeller and the original rothschilds are all DEAD, do you think they plotted this shit out?

how come zh never mentions anything about it? only posters?

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 15:59 | 2701766 NidStyles
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You think death stops a family tradition? Get over yourself junior. 

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 15:59 | 2701768 Paul Atreides
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Plenty of evidence here:

The Money Masters A full documentary on the history of US Anglo banking:

The Federal Reserve Banking Cartel

Part I

Part II

Part III

Part IV

Part IV

Also try readying "The Creature From Jekyll Island"

And here is a quote direct from David Rockefellers memoirs:

"Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as 'internationalists' and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure - one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it."




Tue, 08/14/2012 - 05:09 | 2703154 bunnyswanson
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"The Depression [1929] was not accidental. It was a carefully contrived occurrence. The international bankers sought to bring about a condition of despair here [United States] so that they might emerge as rulers of us all." Louis T. McFadden, Chairman of the U.S. House of Representatives' Banking and Currency Committee, 1932

This is yet another fine web site which explains this present situation comprehensively  and a wealth of information to peruse.  To think that a group of very powerful ultrawealthy men want to rule the world is not that outrageous of a concept with the other motivating factors considered.  I do not understand why after all this time and available evidence you refuse to consider men who reach the top never have enough until they have it all.  And think they actually deserve it, even in light of the swindle. 

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 23:10 | 2702933 taeonu
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“The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media.”

– William Colby, former CIA Director


"The interests behind the Bush Administration, such as the CFR, The Trilateral Commission -- founded by Brzezinski for David Rockefeller -- and the Bilderberger Group, have prepared for and are now moving to implement open world dictatorship within the next five years. They are not fighting against terrorists. They are fighting against citizens."

- Dr. Johannes B. Koeppl, PhD
former German defense ministry official and advisor to former NATO Secretary General Manfred Werne


“There is quite an incredible spread of relationships. You don’t need to manipulate Time magazine, for example, because there are [Central Intelligence] Agency people at the management level.”

– William B. Bader, former CIA intelligence officer, briefing members of the Senate Intelligence Committee, The CIA and the Media, by Carl Bernstein


“The Agency’s relationship with [The New York] Times was by far its most valuable among newspapers, according to CIA officials. [It was] general Times policy … to provide assistance to the CIA whenever possible.”

– The CIA and the Media, by Carl Bernstein

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 15:29 | 2701631 financial apoca...
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seriously Michael 2016

fuck that 

"Change" is needed now (not the Obama variety) by 2016 the economy would be FUBAR, even worse than right now

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 16:24 | 2701853 AGuy
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"Many millions of Ron Paul supporters like me will be voting directly for Obama in November in a political strategy so we can get a real Liberty candidate on the ballot in 2016."

Your making some huge leaps of faith there! You're assuming with O'Bama in Office that there will  be a 2016 election. That said, the same statement can be applied if Mittens wins. Some things that may happen been Jan 20, 2013 and Jan 19, 2017:

1. Hyper-inflation and the Death of the US dollar

2. Nuclear war that wipes out civilization because O'Bama grand plan to completely destabilize the Middle East.

3. Suspension of US elections. Suspension of all Rights USA under Full marshall law.

The bottom line: There is no strategy. No matter who you vote for the outcome will be grim. We're all screwed! Wish I could find a picture of the "Airplane Emergency card" from the movie "Airplane!" which provided instructions on how to kiss your ass goodbye!

The odds of O'Bama winning a second term are close to nil. Rarely does a incombent win when the economy is the crapper. Only one President in the 20th Century pulled that off: FDR.

One last comment: One of the reasons why we are stuck with Mittens and O'Bama is that no sane, rational person wants the job. When the US is up to 20+ Trillion in 2016 its less likely that anyone good is going to run. If there is an election in 2016, we will be stuck with even worse candidates! 2016 is likely to be Caligula versus Nero!

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 16:30 | 2701877 Abraxas
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"2016 is likely to be Caligula vs Nero"

Which makes BO what? Tiberius or Claudius?

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 16:36 | 2701899 Overfed
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Martial law, dammit!

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 16:54 | 2701960 AGuy
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Thanks! You have to pardon my grammatical and spelling mistakes!


Mon, 08/13/2012 - 17:04 | 2701992 Roandavid
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For a second there I thought that this post was/is the work of the always magnificent Milliondollarbonus, but no ..... I'm thinking this clown is serious.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 17:06 | 2702000 Fizzywig
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Why did Michael's post get negative votes?

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 18:43 | 2702257 myshadow
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Check your facts.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 15:05 | 2701519 Abraxas
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It does not matter who they prefer if the entire shithouse goes down in flames. Pedro for president!

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 15:10 | 2701558 sickofthepunx
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WS could give 2 fucks who the president is.



Mon, 08/13/2012 - 15:31 | 2701645 ItsEvolutionBaby
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so they could give 2 fucks?

not 1, but 2 fucks?

2 whole fucks? 

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 15:39 | 2701676 boogerbently
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But no kissing.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 15:58 | 2701759 Metalredneck
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That's how germs are spread.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 15:05 | 2701524 The Wizard of Oz
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Mon, 08/13/2012 - 15:05 | 2701525 BLOTTO
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Interesting timing as i read this today, from Kitco Commentary Section:


"Since 1900, whenever the market has risen [during that time period] the incumbent or incumbent party has been elected 80% of the time. If the market has fallen the incumbent is replaced 88% of the time," Stovall said.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 15:06 | 2701533 Abraxas
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Don't read anything by Kitco.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 15:12 | 2701567 Dr. Richard Head
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No even the gold and silver charts?  I guess you are right, manipulated price and all.  I will read Hustler instead.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 15:14 | 2701577 Abraxas
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Now, there's a reputable source of information.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 15:29 | 2701636 Skateboarder
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And a reputable source of titformation.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 16:45 | 2701929 caconhma
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FDR was reelected again and again and again regardless of anything. He just knew how to speak to and screw brainless American people.

Well, even now, FDR is still a great American hero.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 15:45 | 2701692 stewie
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and where the "manipulation" is welcomed and nice to see.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 15:13 | 2701571 BLOTTO
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I disagree Ab...

Its that fuck head J.Nadler that brings the commentary section down and tainted the section...

BUT, their are several contributors that are BULLISH for PM's and are quite, Kirtley, Chuck Butler, Stewart Thompson, Al Korelin, etc...

Its also SMART to read the information our ENEMIES are saying too...

Remember, 'Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.'

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 15:16 | 2701582 Abraxas
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Yeah, I guess you're right.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 15:45 | 2701704 boogerbently
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Apples and oranges.

Those "other" election time markets weren't falsely bankrolled by the FED.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 15:37 | 2701592 LMAOLORI
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"If markets fall significantly between now and November If markets fall significantly between now and November"

huh? That's up to Ben and his printing press I would say..


And I don't know about the figures he's using if you look at the Pac's it looks like they want obama



Financial Sector Helps Barack Obama Score Big Money for Re-election Fight


Industry # of Bundlers Min. Amt Bundled Lawyers/Law Firms 54 $6,100,000 Securities & Investment 44 $7,200,000 Business Services 22 $3,900,000 Real Estate 15 $2,300,000 Misc. Finance 15 $1,750,000


JPMorgan Employees Join Goldman Sachs Among Top Obama Donors



The Rising Stock Market Could Get Obama Reelected


Mon, 08/13/2012 - 15:05 | 2701530 mrktwtch2
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either way it will bring back some volatility..and hopefully  the long run doesnt really matter who is president in that both of these guys have been handpicked..and are not going to do anything radical to rock the boat last one who attempted that was jfk and we all know how that

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 15:06 | 2701532 malikai
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That's about the way it seems.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 15:06 | 2701534 azzhatter
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they own both sides, doesn't matter

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 15:07 | 2701542 Hype Alert
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Looks like 4 more years by that chart.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 15:09 | 2701552 Dr. Gonzo
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Agree 100% with this article. A bird in the hand is better than 2 in the bush. Whatever the outcome Wallstreet won't lose a wink of sleep on election night.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 15:16 | 2701557 Dr. Engali
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The question needs to be ...Does Ben and the Fed want Romney or Obama as president? Ben will print away and counter act anything the HFT robots can do. My guess is that Ben is perfectly comfortable with the status quo. Obama has proven good for Ben's job security.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 15:16 | 2701583 Hype Alert
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The only candidate that has spoken out agains the banks and FED was blacked out by the media.  When you own both candidates, who cares.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 15:20 | 2701599 Dr. Engali
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Well I agree with that much. I'm just say that Ben has a personal stake in the matter.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 15:38 | 2701673 fonzannoon
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If Romney wins he will immediately fore Ben Bernanke and then soon after he will hire Benji Bershnanke who will look incredibly similar to Bernanke with a wig.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 15:47 | 2701716 NidStyles
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Does that guy have an amazing beard too? I'm fine with Benji if he has that beard. It's not like the change of person will make any difference this late in the game. 

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 17:11 | 2702017 AGuy
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I Doubt Helicopter Ben will be ousted when mittens wins. Benny holds all the cards, especially when it comes to Wall Street. Here are some recent campiagn promises that never happened,and where broken the day after they where spoken:

1. I will close Gitmo

2. I will bring back home the troops and end these wars.

3. Mission accomplished!

Mittens also promised to make the USA energy independant in 4 years. Does a Snowball in sound familiar?

Mittens needs a full time printer with experience. Especially if the Euro breaks up in 2013.


Mon, 08/13/2012 - 15:13 | 2701569 JimboWHO
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After the Romney win watch for the EXCLAMATION POINT; the monthly jobs numbers whoooooshing higher.


Oh the Humiliation!

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 15:48 | 2701724 NidStyles
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I'm sure I can post some numbers on a site and have people believe them to be true as well. It's only a matter of time before everything is just made up for convenience anyways. 

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 15:17 | 2701585 SaveTheGreenback
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Corzine = Everything that is wrong with uber-rich Wall Street Liberals/Progressives.

There are more like him....more than you think...

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 15:24 | 2701616 LMAOLORI
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Financial Fraud Conviction Scorecard

Bush: 1300+, Clinton: 1000+, Obama: 0.0 (+/-)

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 15:39 | 2701677 Everybodys All ...
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That does not even seem possible ... no wonder the fraud just keeps getting more and more brazen.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 15:17 | 2701586 mewenz
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the street has it more then covered either way.  They either get a PE guy, i.e. one of the more ethically challenged of even their profession, or they get a guy, one who taught 12 years or so at Law school not so ironically but quite sadly, who has effectively removed the concept of the rule of law for large financial firms.  Agree Gonzo, wont lose a wink of sleep.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 15:21 | 2701587 TWSceptic
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Obama is better for Wall Street


Bigger gov -> more spending -> less capital available for private sector -> weaker economy -> more QE required -> Wall Street benefits


They really don't care though, they know they'll win either way.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 15:24 | 2701613 island
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I think you nailed it.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 15:18 | 2701589 r101958
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Any crash would come in October - after the 3rd Qtr is over. Walls Street - big banks are too deeply invested in the market to let it slide much before the end of the quarter. However, they could orchestrate a nice crash in October and then leap back to big gains after the election...and, all within the 4th Qtr. More telling will be the price of oil. We'll see how high they raise the margin costs to quell price increases prior to the election (once already).

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 15:18 | 2701590 Dr. Gonzo
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They have to give the chickenshit money to Romney to make it look good. It soothes the CNN viewers into still fantasizing that Obama isn't a Wallstreet pet when it's painfully obvious he is. It makes the Fox News watchers feel like the "free market capitalists' are on their side and they are going to propel "their guy" to victory. The whole thing is a big fake soap opera.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 15:19 | 2701594 Gamma735
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It will not matter who is President. It wil be the same old same old.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 15:22 | 2701604 MFLTucson
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Wall Street has a longer time horizon than 4 years and they can see the detruction that Obama brings to the table.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 15:23 | 2701610 Brother Sebastian
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It doesn't matter who is elected president.  Both candidates are bought.  Congress is bought.  The Courts are bought.  The "regulators" are bought.  All that matters is who/what has the fastest computers and smartest algo designers/developers.  The question really is, who has the ultimate power?  Someone pulls Benny-boy's strings.  Is that "someone" an international banking cartel?  Anyone have thoughts on this subject? 

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 15:36 | 2701667 Tuco Benedicto ...
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Exactly right Brother!  Yes, as you know the six largest banks own governments worldwide.  The only reason I want Romney to win is that it will take him a year to line up his pack of gangsters, giving us another 12 months or so to breathe, barring another false flag which is always waiting in the wings by these one trick pony traitors!


Tuco Benedicto Pacifico Juan Maria Ramirez

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 15:55 | 2701748 Brother Sebastian
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Let's hope the bastards go down during our lifetime, Tuco.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 15:24 | 2701611 Pretorian
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Its a trap. Obama will win. They have gone to far with Ron Paul sabotage so they can bring idiot candidate against Obama.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 15:28 | 2701630 buzzsaw99
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the $ goes from the maggots to the politicos (which they own) then to the zionist msm (which they own) then back to themselves. if "they" don't like someone who isn't "playing ball" they can remove them at will so no, they don't care who is in office. the election year hoopla is just to amuse the sheep.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 15:30 | 2701637 francis_sawyer
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If Romney wins, who's gonna pay for Peggy Joseph's gas & mortgage?

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 20:22 | 2702513 Bear
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I think Obama has to 'Pay It Forward' as the Lameo Duck

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 15:31 | 2701640 Zap Powerz
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Like either outcome will alter the downward trajectory we are on.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 15:34 | 2701643 Shizzmoney
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I've been saying this for years.  It's just like a lockout in professional sports.  All you need to do is threaten people's income streams, get them in ad-hoc, and they'll eat out of your fucking hands (until wise enough to know what is going on).  Sure, you'll concede a few things...just not the important stuff.

TBH, I think Wall St (as a majority) wants Obama back in.  He brings confidence that, for another 4 years, that unemployment will be high enough to make it an employer's market (where they can stiff on wages), but not TOO high so that it hurts discretionary spending and confidence from foreign capital.

If Romney gets elected, people will revolt.  THe only reason some Wall St bigwigs are supporting him, along with his Private Equity buddies, is the potential EV (short term) they could get from having their "in" on the legislature and pardons (i.e. Sheldon Adelson donating all that money because he'll probably be up on Bribery charges in Macau, soon).

"The people who ran these companies, are the greediest group of motherfuckers ever assembled on this planet" - Lewis Black 

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 15:32 | 2701648 ejmoosa
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The market is not up when measured against real currencies.


But since you quoted the market in dollars, which we all know are worth less than when BHO took office, it should take more dollars to buy....

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 15:38 | 2701670 Meesohaawnee
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why do we waste so much time and mental energy on a concept that has been broken for decades and will never be fixed?

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 15:39 | 2701674 Bastiat009
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Obama has been very very kind to wall street. The dems are opposed to an audit of the Fed. Obama has done nothing against bankers. You don't know what you got until you lose it.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 16:56 | 2701964 Zap Powerz
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It sure does make Obama supporters who, by and large, hate wall st and their idea of capitalism, look stupid doesnt it?

I dont care much about politics, but I do care about competence and Obama is one incompetent leader.  Profoundly incompetent.  Its as if he has never done anything like this before and he is just making shit up as he goes.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 15:48 | 2701722 orangegeek
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The SP500 has been in a 10 point band for a week on below low volume.


Good luck making this market move sideways/upward for the next 3 months.


Bye bye markets and bye bye Obama.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 15:54 | 2701747 SheepDog-One
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ObaMao's usefullness is done, and hes pretty unpopular....I'd say Wall St wants to shake up the snow globe again, its time.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 15:54 | 2701746 Elmer Fudd
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It doesn't matter who gets elected, as long as the voting sheeple treat it seriously and pick sides.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 16:01 | 2701775 One World Mafia
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If you're fortunate enough not to have electronic voting, vote for Gary Johnson.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 16:20 | 2701843 Uncle Keith
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Simply amazes me how everyone - every where - ignores The Culprit:Citizens United vs FEC. Thank You: John Roberts; Karl(a) Rove; Plutocrats.

Expect more of the same for the foreseeable.


The American Electorate will not march in the street; demand change; ignore distractions long enough to wrap their collective mind around Cause and Effect. The One Sliver of Hope in all of this is Barry Grows Some Balls and sticks the banksters in jail immediately following the election. 


Of course, there will be that little problem with the Iran War... We'll all be under the impression was unavoidable, and rightfully over-shadowing such trivial matters as Corporate Criminality and our failure to embrace Rule of Law. 

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 20:18 | 2702507 Bear
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All they have to do to crash this market is .... Do Nothing .... I think it must be real hard to keep this dying market on life support 

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 20:22 | 2702514 Papasmurf
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I thought mittens was a self-basting turkey.

Tue, 08/14/2012 - 07:30 | 2703238 GoldbugVariation
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What if some of Wall Street want Obama and some want Romney?  Will we see S&P crash only to be followed by the rally monkey taking us to new highs?

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