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Guest Post: How Can You Have Any Pudding If You Don’t Eat Your Meat?
Submitted by Simon Black from Sovereign man
How Can You Have Any Pudding If You Don’t Eat Your Meat?
I had the privilege of seeing Roger Waters perform ‘The Wall’ to a live crowd of over 40,000 fans at the LA Coliseum on Saturday night– the second time I’ve seen the show on this tour.
It was an amazing production– I wholeheartedly recommend the experience as it’s something that no DVD or album recording could possibly reproduce.
At one point, Waters paused his set and began telling the audience about Jean Charles de Menezes, a 27-year old Brazilian national who was shot *8-times* by British police several years ago at a south London tube station after being mistakenly identified as a terrorist.
The police, adhering to the ‘shoot first, ask questions later’ model of peace enforcement, have never been held accountable for taking the life of an innocent man at point blank range.
“If we stand at the top of the slope and give our governments, and particularly our police, too much power, it’s a very long and dangerous slippery slope to the bottom,” Waters said.
The crowd went berserk, roaring with approval.
It certainly gives one hope that the message is sinking in; most folks, it seems, have a conceptual understanding that governments are corrupt and abusive… but at the end of the day, they’ll still fall in line behind the political system.
An entire lifetime of programming, starting practically at birth, reinforces that government and police are the ‘good guys’. It’s a difficult inclination to break.
The stories that we all hear on an almost daily basis about corruption and abuse of power are appalling indeed. But most people think that they’re just aberrations in an otherwise good system… and that it’s just not going to happen to them.
Until it does.
George Reby is a great example. The New Jersey resident was driving on I-40 in Tennessee when he was stopped for speeding. The officer then asked him if he was carrying large amounts of cash.
Reby said that he had about $20,000, upon which the officer asked if he could search the vehicle.
Reby consented, saying later, “I certainly didn’t feel like I was doing anything wrong…”
You can probably tell where this is going… the officer promptly confiscated the cash, claiming that it might be used for drug trafficking. Reby explained that he was on his way to buy a car he’d found on eBay (and even showed him the eBay ad), and showed that the source of funds were legitimate.
It didn’t matter. He had his money stolen in the most insidious way…by a thuggish, criminal agent of the government (who was sporting a rather menacing neck tattoo).
At least a real criminal knows what he’s doing is wrong; he knows that he’s committing an immoral act by shooting or robbing someone. The police, on the other hand, think their actions are legitimate, that they’re just ‘doing their job.’
This is intellectually dishonest and morally reprehensible. Everyone involved, including the officer himself, agreed that Reby committed no crime… that it’s perfectly legal to carry cash.
Yet citizens like Reby are routinely relieved of their hard-earned savings, and then have to spend thousands of dollars fighting to get it back.
As it turns out, police have a huge incentive to steal; they get a healthy cut of the proceeds from any asset seizure, and the funds go to pay for new toys like those whiz bang Camaro hot rod police cruisers.
You can check out Reby’s disgraceful story here:
It goes to show that this idea of “I’ve done nothing wrong, I’ve got nothing to hide, so I have nothing to fear…” is completely bogus.
People who are completely innocent of any wrongdoing can still have their lives turned upside down by a corrupt government that has an incentive to plunder its citizens.
Yet every time we turn around, they’ve managed to award themselves more power, more authority.
From the NDAA which authorizes the military detention of US citizens on US soil, to President Obama’s executive order authorizing government confiscation of practically everything, to the UK’s new plan to monitor all mobile, phone, email, and text messages going in, out, or through the country.
From Rome to the Ottoman Empire, history is full of examples of failing, insolvent governments that resort to similar tactics of desperately pillaging the wealth and freedoms of their citizens. The conclusions we can draw from this are simple:
1) The trend for failing states is to grant themselves more power.
1) Power, once granted, is almost impossible to take back.
2) More power means more abuse of power.
3) It can (and does) happen to anyone.
Putting any faith in an insolvent government to do the right thing is absurd… and it behooves everyone to safeguard important assets and interests by diversifying internationally.
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You can if you are born into the right family or have enough to purchase a congressional representative. Gosh, that was an easy question.
If the Federal Reserve (A PRIVATE Bank that can FORCE the American taxpayer to pay interest on any debt it creates by coining money for said taxpayer), has nothing to hide, then why not reveal a full audit and were every fucking cent goes. Including the fucking interest on the debt.
We don't need no education!
Unfortunately, the US education system is about giving sub par education so that the sheeple do not know how to think critically. It worked!
Sheep - Animals, 1977
"Welcome to the Machine"
"And did we tell you the name of the game, boy?
We call it riding the gravy train."
SHEEP
Dogs.
But this caught my eye..."Waters paused his set and began telling the audience about Jean Charles de Menezes, a 27-year old Brazilian national who was shot *8-times* by British police several years ago..."
British police have guns as standard issue now?...this must have started after the general population was fooled/coerced into giving up theirs.
There have always been British police with guns; they just aren't the Bobbies. In a class culture there are classes of everything.
British police have guns as standard issue now?...
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Standard issues? Nope. US citizens ape each others.
The british jumped on the war against terror as started by US of A.
US citizens living in the US have to soundly justify how they could be shocked by the police shooting a terrorist look like on face sight.
It is the habit of US citizen police.
http://wtc7.net/
Thoughts?
By the way, which one's Pink?
Bob Geldof, of course!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DqK2PkFgtw&annotation_id=annotation_914453&src_vid=YQWszrZHBPI&feature=iv
Why are you here? No offense, just asking, you - MIMDF.
Answer now. If it's to prove your "smartz" you already did. So why bother?
Bob Geldof, of course!
Shit, dude. As fascinating as your thoughts on that are, how about:
http://wtc7.net/
OMG! You have something to say about Bob Geldoff. Say more as we all await with baited breath!
Nah, nevermind. You fuked up, as always.
Vic, you offer one of the best sites on 911 research. I can say that as someone who has perused many.
One more before I leave for good
How fuking stupid are you? Seriously? Pls tell us
But Some animals are more equal than others.
Just ask Nick Mason and the late Richard Wright about that. Waters was not a particularly pleasant chap with these co-founders of PF. Waters also loves Obama. Gilmour's third (?) wife is a lefty and her grand mother was a Gang of Four member in China. Aka the Cultural Revolution aka mass murder.
What does the Muslim have to say about this?
http://wtc7.net/
Hey, teacher, leave those kids alone.
Really: http://www.infowars.com/teacher-yells-at-student-criminal-offense-to-cri...
According to the public school teacher, criticizing I'llbombya is criminal.
Behave. Obviously: We *DO* need more thought control.
Are concerns over a Greek Euro exit overdone ?
http://www.cnhedge.com/thread-4852-1-1.html
Is the Euro area Credibly on Target?
http://www.cnhedge.com/thread-4838-1-1.html
The Fed doesn't "coin" money... it only prints it. Coinage is done by the US Mint and the Fed does not get anything from coinage.
It does not print it. It LOANS it out.
better off beating your meat than listening to Waters.
Who does get all that interest we are paying? The Morgan's, rottenchilds, and Rockefellers? Reminds me of the Scrooge in the cartoon that dives in all his bullion.
Also why does Forbes create a list of the wealthiest people on the planet, the super rich don't want us to know they exist. This past year was the first a Rothschild made the list with a little over 1 billion. The house of Rothschild is estimated to have net worth of over 250 trillion, yes with a t., and over 95 palaces.
I gave you a green one. I'd give you about 50 Billion more if the Tylers wheren't so fucking stingy.
Another brick in the wall of tyranny
goodbye, blue skies...
The show must go on
Comfortably numb.
"And oh, oh, oh the tide is turning..."
That's why I gave up US Citizenship 11 years ago, this year we had the first case of government refusing to revoke citizenship.
Welcome to the hotel California, what a lovely place. You can check out but you can never leave.
Wrong band, stay on topic. ;-)
No dark sarcasm on ZH pls...
It's like believing where we are is an act of random precision.
June 7 I'll be in the front row in st Paul...
My birthday present. It's also the last official day I am employed.
The last week of June I'll be sailing lake Michigan for a month.
It o.k., i'll make you lamb (MY BIG FAT GREEK WEDDING)
Did waters still have that big inflatable pig? He needs to change that to a sheep with a dildo up its ass.
Andy_Jackson_Jihad said:
Not just any dildo, but a red, white, and blue stars-n-stripes dildo shaped like a fist and forearm, sporting a crucifix tattoo.
and the lesson of the story: If you're going to be persecuted as a criminal anyway, you should at least try to be an exceptional criminal.
...like a banker.
It is easy to cheer. how many of those in attendance would actually do something if their meddle was tested?
No... The lesson of the story is that you should have bought silver with the $20 grand & gone on a canoe trip (instead of fucking driving around Tennessee)...
That happened to you too?
Fucking happens all the time! I can't figure it out...
Deliverance. Wasn't that set in GA? Ill-fated canoing (or rafting) story; forget which??
Mr. Reby was deliveranced from his money though, wasn't he?
Might want to revisit Grapes Of Wrath. These days Tom Joad is driving a late-model diesel truck, and family is dressed to the 9s, but they got no food, no job, and no prospects. Ain't gonna get far no matter how full your tank is...
5) If you allow TPTB to attempt to victimize you without fighting back you're a fool.
I still say their best work is Echoes from Meddle
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kQNFyEI2rs&feature=fvst
The entire Meddle album is fantastic, but Animals is a timeless masterpiece.
Meddle IS fantastic. Sheep is my all-time favorite. Here's a clip that shows one of the dozens of reasons why some us make such a fuss about this band...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2aOccbfAqE.
"Live at Pompeii" is a real audio-visual masterpiece, containing the best of Meddle, plus A Saucerful of Secrets, Careful With That Axe...
A 90 minute treat: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOi2nVB31GM
I would have to say my vote for Roger's best work is The Final Cut.
pods
Don't hear folks speak of The Final Cut too often -- I think it is a highly underrated record. Love it.
Unparalelled Genius- Several Species of Small Furry Animals Gathered Together in a Cave and Grooving with a Pict
+1,000,000
Pink Floyd at Pompeii is incredible.
Mehhh... I used to think music would be a good weapon to take over the world. But, after seeing the humble failure by the likes of J. Garcia and Mr. Waters himself, it became apparent that something more effective would be needed.
At some point it became obvious that Economics is most certainly the weapon of choice. Being a natural force, almost nothing needs to be done to facilitate the uprising.
Just sit back and enjoy the "show". The music will play in the background while we're picking up the pieces after their Wall comes down.
"After all it's not easy, banging your head againts some mad boogers Wall"
Jean Charles de Menezes was executed gangland style by a bunch of pumped up pigs with guns looking to be heroes. It seems JCM's fate could happen to anyone at the mercy of some brainless thugs with a 'legal' license to kill or terrorize.
Hey... watch how you speak about the Thin Blue Line. Proctect and Serve. They're all that's keeping the wolves from your door, don't you know. /sarc off
I am the Wolf
me too.
When it all comes crashing down, the Criminal Elite will all disappear: "Pigs on the wing"
Is that track that syncs with the crash and rape scene in The Road Warrior?
The AMAZING Simon Black World Tour (& all I got was this lousy T-shirt ~ pronounces 'T-SHIT' in New Zealandese)...
Better to die on your feet than live on your knees
"Better to die like a tiger then live like a pussy"
Balls of Fury
.......and then went home crack open another beer and watched dancing with the stars.....
This won't end well and paying simon black at one of Panama seminars won't change things.
The ZH crown will go berserk & roar with approval when the huffwad SB returns to New Zealand and begins to practice the ancient Maori discipline of STFU...
Hey guys, come on now. He's gotten a hell of a lot better with his posts. I used to salivate when I saw his latest, I was already oiling and loading the flack battery in anticipation.
Go back about 6 months and read some of his crap from then. That shit was nigh unbearable, except for all the scorn heaped on it.
If you punch him too hard he'll revert and lose all the manners he's learned.
"4 more years!"
“If we stand at the top of the slope and give our governments, and particularly our police, too much power, it’s a very long and dangerous slippery slope to the bottom,” Waters said.
"The crowd went berserk, roaring with approval."
Wrong generation.
The crowd went home, fired up the BBQ, lit the incense, and smoked some Humboldt weed, reminiscing about past PF, BOC, Stones and Who concerts, then woke up the next day, turned on msnbc, and mused as to how to keep Obama in office.
I agree as to the apple farts comment. Waters could have said: "I use WET lube, and it's a hell of a slippery ride!" and the crowd would have gone berserk. Most of them were already baked.
You have the right to remain silent........and you will or else.
"The crowd went berserk, roaring with approval."
It's not that I disagree with this post (although Simon Black usually comes across as a cozy smug cunt) it's just that I have a difficult time agreeing that "most folks" are aware of the level of corruption in our government, maybe in his sheltered little world, surrounded by his like-minded fledglings...
and again, a Pink Floyd concert crowd "roaring with approval," he could have yelled, "we're all going to suck rancid apple farts out of an aged donkeys asshole'" and the crowd would have roared with just as much incoherent approval.
No fucking shit...
The Simon Black solution to everything is to flippin' buy real estate on the moon (& when the government infringes on that, move on to Mars)...
~~~
cool avatar BTW
Yeah, I've been watching it for 20 minutes while I stacked silver. Man, am I tired!
Most of the Floyd fans in high school mainly liked them cause Gilmour guitar solos were long and it was good music to get stoned to. Most had no clue about English private (public schools in England are actually private schools or exclusive schools) schools, the sadistic teachers plus the culture and post WW2 England. None of them had a f***ing clue who Syd was. I bet 90% in LA had no idea who Syd was.
These are the same stadium crowds Water's hated and spat at once which lead to the creation of The Wall. He treated Mason and Wright like sh*t and the only one who had the backbone to stand up to him was Gilmour. Post Live 8 - Roger wanted to bury the hatchet he stuck in the others back. Gilmour said no thanks and poor Rick Wright then died.
...best response to your employee, in this case the idiot officer, ''do you mind if I search you and your car and then decide?'' When they say no, be sure to ask if they don't mind if you search their home, phone record etc... When the moron says no, then ask if asking them seems dumb and a bit beyond moronic? If they say yes, make a ''whew'' noise and say, for a moment there I thought you were not an American, just a comedian.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87wPRUBCuYs
Once you're in jail, nobody can bail you out.
"Under Asset Forfeiture Law, Wisconsin Cops Confiscate Families’ Bail Money."
I saw Pink Floyd twice in the late 70's, once at the old Omni in Atlanta and again at Death Valley in Clemson. They came in low over the crowd at Clemson in their Leer Jet and wig waged the wings as the stadium was filling up. Ah, the good old days.
I had the privilege of going to a Pink Floyd concert once before. It was the best concert I've ever been to. I did get to see a Grateful Dead concert once, but the only thing I remember is the naked women with saggy tits, the pretty lights, and a dog.
went to many a Dead show, Phish too... pretty much sums it up.
Just to bring some balance to the De Menezez story - He was followed away from a house known by UK intelligence agencies at the time to have been used by terrorists planning an attack. He was carrying a rucksack on his back - a method previously used to carry/detonate an IED on the tube. He was challenged by police outside the tube station and ran jumping over the entrance barrier and onto a packed tube. Such an IED takes only a split second to detonate.
Turns out he was running away because he was an illegal immigrant and the rucksack was harmless but that's easy to use as critical ammunition after the event. The police had to make an immediate decision - not one I'd like to have to make. Before condemning those tasked with such a horrendous task ask yourself what your opinion would be if they hadn't acted and he had been carrying a bomb and detonated it killing and maiming dozens of people. No doubt they would then be slaughtered for incompetence and the families would want to know why they had not acted to protect their loved ones.
It was a tragedy and the family deserve all our sympathies but seeing a conspiracy and abuse of power around every corner can distort the fact that not every act that gets reported has a conspiracy behind it. Ask yourself what you would have done - shoot or not shoot - there is no right or wrong answer by the way, just informed decision making based on the circumstances as you see them at the time and not with the benefit of days and weeks to look over every shred of information in the comfort of a plush legal office.
Every story has two sides.
So your point is that even though they found out he wasn't a "terrorist" it is not an abuse of power to keep his money. Gotcha.
Sawman, what is the other side of the story to rape? murdeer?
Sorry I should have made it clear I was only commenting on the De Menezes part of the post. I have no knowledge of the other stories and can only take them at face value but if they are reported in as biased a manner as the London shooting then they are to be questioned.
Last I heard he (de Menezes) wasn't illegal, his work permit had just expired. He wasn't running for the train or jumpng barriers... that turned out to be false reports from witnesses to the first policemen jumping barriers.
Someone sat next to him on the train, another policeman said "Is that him?" and then they all blasted him. No excuse whatsoever for the police action.... it was a complete cock-up.
I saw the entire group perform "The Wall" at the L.A. Coliseum in 1979.
WOW - What a show! Played the double album from beginning to end with the flying Stuka on a cable, the Pig, animation, and actually building the wall through the first album.
People passing joints down the row, doing lines of coke, smoking cigarettes.
It was a peaceful crowd and a great time.
Not too long after that the Gestapo mentality took hold and by '86 there were police on horseback and flashlights pulling anyone out of a concert crowd smoking or drinking anything. Result? People got drunk in the parking lot before the show and got into fights. Dumb, dumb, dumb.
yes i remember when drinking at shows was a last resort
Slight clarification, that show was at the Sports Arena in Feb. 1980.
I remember that year well. I was living in the same dorm as a freshman from Hawaii named Barry.
You are probably right; for some reason the memory is a little foggy ;-) (other than the show itself).
One of the effects lit some of the scenery on fire and they had to pause to extinguish it. Were you at that show?
Cheers!
Mother.
Mother do you think they'll drop the bomb?
Mother do you think they'll like this song?
Mother do you think they'll try to break my balls?
Oooh, ahh
Mother should I build the wall?
Mother should I run for President?
Mother should I trust the government?
Mother will they put me in the firing mine?
Oooh ahh,
Is it just a waste of time?
Hush now baby, baby, don't you cry.
Mama's gonna make all your nightmares come true.
Firing line?
I like the mine better...closer to the ingots.
Waiting for the Worms (partial)
Waiting to cut out the deadwood.
Waiting to clean up the city.
Waiting to follow the worms.
Waiting to put on a black shirt.
Waiting to weed out the weaklings.
Waiting to smash in their windows
And kick in their doors.
Waiting for the final solution
To strengthen the strain.
Waiting to follow the worms.
Waiting to turn on the showers
And fire the ovens.
Waiting for the queens and the coons
and the reds and the jews.
Waiting to follow the worms.
Interesting times in Canada as well. Whether or not I agree with the students' original cause for the strike (raising tuition fees),I think the government response has been over the top. Bill 78 has been criticized by many for limited the right to assembly and protest. Even Yahoo news (usually fluff) posted an article comparing it to a similar law under consideration in Russia. More and more governments are going to be enacting similar measures to deal with social unrest and protests.
Just now unconfirmed rumours that the government may call in the army to deal with the situation.
Thanks for your post.
Regardless of how you feel about Mr. Waters' politics, it seems that the passage of time has lowered his stock vs. Syd Barrett's considerably. Animals is a thin, rather obvious sledgehammer constructed of paper mache, The Wall is overblown (only Vera and Hey You continue to satisfy), with only Wish You Were Here remaining an understated, undervalued gem. Yes he took too much acid, yes he went nuts, but for overall influence, such as inspiring the likes of Television Personalities, Syd has to get the edge.
If Syd had stayed in the band they'd continue making music about happy gnomes and trippy bunnies hopping around on rainbow-coloured meadows...
Waters brought in the serious talk, and though it's a struggle with his own demons on a personal level, you can't deny his devotion and fight against authoritarianism, war and stupidity in general.
"Are there any queers in the theater tonight?
Get them up against the wall!
There's one in the spotlight, he don't look right to me,
Get him up against the wall!
That one looks Jewish!
And that one's a coon!
Who let all of this riff-raff into the room?
There's one smoking a joint,
And another with spots!
If I had my way,
I'd have all of you shot!"
[In The Flesh - The Wall s.2]
Interesting ... what you're saying is, had Mr. Barrett remained in Pink Floyd, they'd presently be releasing a concept album about the Group of Eight Nations (aka Gnomes). I, for one, would love to hear that ("Look at the Mark, look at the drachma, isn't it good ...")
Perhaps, but I don't believe he would be biding his time on such issues; nevertheless, it would have been fun watching him enlighten the world with his prophetic wisdom of a holy fool:
"You and I in place
wasting time on dominoes
a day so dark, so warm,
life that comes of no harm
you and I and dominoes, time goes by..."
Actually I like the motion of being against war, sort of like being against violence. But that doesn't prevent me from being mugged or assaulted.
Mr. Waters has most likely the privilege of affording 24/7 security around him, thereby having the luxury to denounce war and violence.
When this came out it was light years ahead of anything. Still is. Syd was incredible.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQTFRq1hjtM
Followed by this which is just as stunning:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUHQTywSJYM&feature=related
Do the research and you will find Syd was the hippest, smartest, most charismatic and also the nicest one in the band and it was his band.
The gnome shit was Bowie who pretty much copped most of Syd's style after Syd lost it.
TPTB learned immensely from the failures of the third reich.....
This time around, instead of ostracizing the left wing, insteand of antagonizing the intellectuals,
they offer them entertainment, these huge rock shows.
Everyone gets on their feet and cheers when the right things get said.
Same thing goes on here at Zero Hedge,
the authorities are well aware of what's being said here, and they are all for everybody venting their frunstrations out and saying what they have to say.
After its all done and the show is over, everybody goes home happy, satisfied that they have done their thing.
Meanwhile,
TPTB continue to grow their stranglehold on everybody and everything.
you gotta admire their genius .....
TPTB are the "new" THIRD REICH...(see george soros) this time they WILL succeed due to the dumbmasses who will do NOTHING until its too late...the US IMPERIAL GOVERNMENT is the DOMESTIC ENEMY
Calling the Neo-Leninist JTB the new third reich is an insult to the old third reich. The third reich did not have diversity seminars, nor did they have equal opportunity compliance officers. In the third reich it was allowed to hire a white dude.
Vanguard of the proletariat International revolution Commies are a stretch to call them "third reich"
"The crowd went berserk, roaring with approval."
Then, went back to being the pillow biting sheep they are.
Stopped going to concerts long ago, - got tired of the long preaches in between the music from self proclaimed savors of the world like Bono bonehead and acid head Waters. (At least David Gilmore could keep his mouth shut and concentrate on the music, which by the way was much better than Waters). But I guess this guy Simon Black just licked it up and "roared with the crowd".
Roger Waters is no acidhead. He's a drunk.
So did the man get his 20k back from the police? You know they "help to keep the peace".
...and the WORMS ate into his BRAIN
He got it back.
http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=39626
As much as some of this may be true, much is still wrong.
For one, the last person I'd ever take advice from is Roger Waters, who once (in concert - I saw it) confused Christian Lebanese with Muslims. In addition, his devotion to socialism is beyond the pale, so any time he gets upset with governments having too much power, I chuckle. He's two-faced and not altogether that smart.
For another, I'll take my chances with cops before I'll take my chances with the average Joe. I know that trust is only worthwhile until "it happens to you". But with the average Joe, you'll take it in the neck faster than you will with most cops (read the news, and take notice of how many times average joes pose as a cop to perpetrate crimes, they know people will trust a cop - with good reason).
Finally, misunderstandings take place all the time. I'm not saying the British police were correct, any more Amadou Diallo's killers were justified. But in highly charged situations, accidents do happen. While I lived in London in 1983, there was a similar shooting. What was so shocking (at the time) was that it occurred at all. After all, cops there didn't carry weapons. Then it turns out they all secretly were packing! What a shock (to the British)! I wasn't shocked. They had suffered a series of serious incidents in prior years, and had gotten tired of having no protection, no means to fight back. The problem isn't that they didn't have guns, it's that weapons are so heavily banned, it was just flat out unexpected that ANYONE would have weapons (which comes as no surprise to someone who realizes that if you outlaw guns, only outlaws will have guns).
I don't believe in empowering our government any further than we absolutely must. As a Libertarian, I recognize the failures and shortcomings of government power.
But letting Roger Waters help infomr policy? WAYYYY too far out of line.
Waters is a bright guy, hard worker but even in the early days of Floyd with Syd you could see Rog was a smart arse and a bully.
Not even taking into acount the post break up lawsuits that occurred and the nasty comments particularly by Waters especially about The Division Bell.
I think what really set Gilmour off was the treatment Mason and especially Rick Wright received from Waters. Wright was a pretty quiet and gentle soul. Gilmour said the post Roger PF tours required a back up drummer and keyboard player because Mason and Wright's confidence was shattered by Waters dowright cruelty towards them. Rick Wirght got the worst of it. Waters zeroed in on the weakest member of the rgoup and attacked.
Waters could write all these songs about how he wished Syd was here but the other founders of the band, Mason and Wright, probably wished they were not there. I loathe police states, which we all live in, but Waters is indeed a hypocrite. Do as I say - not as I do.
Finally, misunderstandings take place all the time. I'm not saying the British police were correct, any more Amadou Diallo's killers were justified. But in highly charged situations, accidents do happen.
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That is a way to put in. Others might see an execution in it. But hey, others might not spend a large comment trying to condone the act while claiming they do not justify it.
Good US citizenism by the way.
Aside from the message in this posting.
Imagine if during the concerto in the background you hear this piercing guitar... the crowd goes silent momentarily and then they start screaming as it hits them... "SLEEP NOW IN THE FIRE!!!" The lights in the background light up and RATM is unveiled busting out a set.
Ok, maybe wrong crowd, but personally, I think it'd be cool.
At least a real criminal knows what he’s doing is wrong; he knows that he’s committing an immoral act by shooting or robbing someone. The police, on the other hand, think their actions are legitimate, that they’re just ‘doing their job.’
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Ah, real criminal. Interesting bit.Again.
No, the police are just US citizens who happen to serve in the police.
They behave the US citizen way.
Cheap propaganda. US citizens are duplicitous. They know what they are doing, they just wont tell.
That police officer is a direct descendent of the 'american' spirit as instilled by the founding fathers.
US citizens have hijacked humanity and monopolized it to pursue their little business of extorting the weak and farming the poor.
That is the US citizen way, hiding behind humanity.
US citizens never act on their own behalf. The king did. Not US citizens.
In what way this US citizen police officer is different from the others?
Why all the blame? Why should he be condemned? He is just a US citizen who happens to be a police officer.
Anything to prove that his behaviour deviates from US citizen standard behaviour?
No, nothing. Move on. And stop picking on fellow US citizen. He is just another US citizens like the others, like you.
Ah, third worlder, three dollars by day.
1095 per year. So roughly, 20 years to build up that 20 000 money sum. Or polling 20 third worlder. According that they have the cash indeed.
As the periphery yields no longer enough, certain US citizen behaviours have to be expressed more thoroughly at home and on better populations.
Extorting the weak and farming the poor works. But is limited by the weak and poor yields. With a no growth world coming up, zero sum games and all, better targets to be found.
Deserving targets by the way as they clapped all the way when it was performed onto others.
Better them than me.
Policing for profit. That is quite a joke. US citizen police have been policing for profit since day zero.
And on popular will, see for example how US citizens were patrolling plantations during the war of independence to prevent slaves from fleeing.
Policing for profit. Without looking at the convict leasing story too etc...
Ummm, well, once again, what has this US citizen police officer done wrong?
Can one US citizen give a sound argument about it?
yaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwwwwwnnn........MFC!!
"I had the privilege of seeing Roger Waters perform ‘The Wall’ to a live crowd"
if you bought the ticket (how much were they? a c-note apiece easily?), then you made a commercial transaction, as in trading FRN's for an opportunity to consume an experience -- an experience where you and 40k other consumers can indulge in an anti-authoritaritian fantasy guided by an individual who has never come to grips with his inner fascist (see Freddie) in exchange for $100 a pop. $100x40k is a lot of pudding gushing out of Mr. Waters' pockets.
now, how exactly is that a privilege? it is (see AnAnonymous) but it seems you're still a little too blinded by the acid flashback facades and psychedelic spew of celebrity culture in its most insidious form to go that deep. like dear ol' Roger actually. i know it's hard to do when you're selling this shit to line your own personal pockets with pudding, but perhaps you should try harder.
just remember, you can't take it with you.
p.s. for how to avoid the experience of the Jersey boy, see Dean Clifford. here's a primer : Your Rights, Trusts, and how to enforce them:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSZWocd3CLA
Simon seems to have his head on straight, but it's a bit disturbing that you can't reach him through his web site.
Simon, if you see this, please contact me at wcvarones -at- gmail . com
Simon seems to have his head on straight, but it's a bit disturbing that you can't reach him through his web site.
Simon, if you see this, please contact me at wcvarones -at- gmail . com