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Submitted by Mike Krieger of KAM LP

Humanity Is Rising

The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance; it is the illusion of knowledge.
- Stephen Hawkings

Truth: the most deadly weapon ever discovered by humanity.  Capable of destroying entire perceptual sets, cultures, and realities. Outlawed by all governments everywhere.  Possession is normally punishable by death.
- John Gilmore

A man does what he must -- in spite of personal consequences, in spite of obstacles and dangers and pressures.
- John Kennedy

They Have No Philosophy

The one area where I sometimes have a difference of opinion with friends of mine that are “awake” relates to my certainty that TPTB cannot win this battle.  There are two main reasons I think they are completely doomed.  The first one is the internet, which I have written in detail on before so I am not going to belabor on it here.  Long story short, never in human history have we as a species been able to connect so efficiently and effectively with one another.  This makes one of the key methods of control, “divide, conquer, war” much more difficult for them to implement.  I have always felt that human disposition lies on a bell curve.  So let’s say for the sake of argument that 1% is just extraordinarily wicked, selfish, mentally deranged so along the lines of a Stalin like character.  Then let’s say the 1% on the other side is gentle, enlightened, and moral almost to a fault so a Gandhi like character.  Then the masses in the middle are not of any extreme disposition in either way, but are easily malleable and generally just “go along to get along.”  Well as far as recorded human history is concerned, the 1% of nasty, immoral parasites have dominated humanity through the various playbooks strategies that I and many others have outlined.  The 1% on the other side have generally been silenced or ostracized systematically by the control freak “leaders” and if that fails to work, they are simply murdered.  I mean even up until the 20th Century think about the kinds of guys that have been murdered.  Gandhi.  Martin Luther King Jr.  John Lennon.  Oh and if we want to go back a couple thousand years there was Jesus.  The list is endless.  Guys that talk about a higher level of consciousness and love and actually make inroads in society are murdered.  Yet no one ever seems to take a shot at the genocidal, sociopaths that run our lives through politics and banking (nor would I ever want that as I do not condone violence as a solution to a violent system).  Interesting isn’t it?  I think it is pretty obvious why this is the case.  The 1% on the decent side of the bell curve aren’t murderers.  The guys on the other side of it are.

So now on to the point of this piece.  These guys are done for.  Finished.  I have never been more sure of this in my life.  When I first started really writing on these subjects four or five years ago there was a certain percent of humanity I felt had to awaken to actually be able to transition from this ponzi scheme global economic system of oppression and death into something demonstrably better.  We have now exceeded the number I thought was necessary by 2 or 3 times.  At least. We must understand that all political and economic systems that are to survive must have some degree of belief in the system on behalf of the population.  In short there must be an attractive philosophy.  While it was clearly an evil philosophy rooted in hatred and xenophobia, the Nazis did indeed have a philosophy that they successfully sold to an economically destitute and downtrodden populace.  The USA has had its own philosophy since WW2 and it had also been successfully sold to the population.  This was a philosophy of “doing good” and being a “city on a hill” as a shining representative for the rest of the world.  While there is no doubt that the United Stated had been a wonderful place to live and do business for much of the last 60 years, as our power grew we became an increasingly destructive force in the world.  A force of oppression rather than freedom and the truly sick 1% of the bell curve has gradually taken over all of the levers of power in the nation.  Particularly in politics, banking and big business.  Our very own axis of evil.

Well here is where the parasitic 1% have their problem.  What they have “sold” the American public as the spirit of the nation is now in direct opposition to reality.  In fact, it has become so obviously untrue that the population is waking in drove to the truth and the truth is that we have a utterly corrupt, sociopathic minority running the nation like a giant criminal syndicate for their own power and money.  Therein lies their weakness however.  They have no philosophy.  These guys are actually so twisted that all they think about is how can they keep growing their money and power.  Furthermore, they are operating under an exposed playbook of control.  Just take a look at Obama’s approval ratings. They are plunging.  They are plunging despite fabricated economic numbers and biblical stock market rigging to make things look good.  They are plunging because people are waking up and seeing all of this for what it is.  A gigantic scam.  All the signs I see point to increasing desperation on their part and exponential awakening on the part of the meat of the bell curve.  These guys are toast and what we should now be focusing most of our attention on is what kind of society we want when this one collapses.  Hopefully the other side of the bell curve can influence the debate for the first times in five thousand years.  That is my hope and my vision of the future.

Greg Smith’s Op Ed

I want to salute Mr. Greg Smith today.  Here is a guy that was an Executive Director at Goldman Sachs and head of the firm’s United States equity derivatives business in Europe, the Middle East and Africa.  He has resigned from the firm and today is his last day.  In leaving, he has penned a powerful Op Ed for the New York Times.  You can read it here http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/14/opinion/why-i-am-leaving-goldman-sachs... Now of course to pretty much every on this list this is nothing shocking.  We all know the guys that run these firms are complete raging psychopaths that can’t see anything beyond their own paycheck.  That said, this demonstrates bravery.  Many people may resign and then they don’t speak up about it.  They are fearful they might be blackballed or worse.  Fear is the most useless emotion on the planet.  There is nothing to ever be afraid of.  We are on this planet to learn and have an impact.  Whether your impact is positive or negative is the beauty of being a human being and it is this exercise of free will that can distinguish us from a pig in a pen.  I have no doubt whatsoever that the universe deals with bad karma in its own way.  That is not our individual responsibility.  We are responsible only for our choices and our impact.  As Gandhi said “be the change you want to see in the world.”

Mr. Smith ends his Op Ed with the following.  “I hope this can be a wake-up call to the board of directors. Make the client the focal point of your business again. Without clients you will not make money. In fact, you will not exist. Weed out the morally bankrupt people, no matter how much money they make for the firm. And get the culture right again, so people want to work here for the right reasons. People who care only about making money will not sustain this firm — or the trust of its clients — for very much longer.”  While this is a noble rallying cry I would say there is a 0% chance of this ever happening.  The system is now unsalvageable.  It is a total ponzi economy rooted in very few real productive activities and in which crony capitalists and their political minions control everything.  This thing has no chance of survival and so the only thing we need to focus on is not allowing the mentally sick 1% determine the next system (oh and to clarify I don’t mean 1% in terms of monetary wealth.  Even though the nastiest elements of society do tend to gather the most wealth in this system since they have zero hang ups about murder, theft and corruption, the nasty 1% are all over the socio economic spectrum.  Notice how the most ruthless gang leader gets to the top in a ghetto.  Same concept in the larger ghetto that is modern America).  

Humanity is Rising

To the pessimists out there I want to remind you of a very simple and sad truth.  The maniacal 1% already own this thing.  They are fully in political and economic control as they have been for thousands of years.  So let’s say they kill billions in WW3 and then they keep control.  Well guess what?  That is no different from what they have been doing forever.  It’s not as if we as a species are going to “lose” much.  We have been losing for centuries.  The bigger point is to take a step back and recognize the moment.  We have the tools at our fingertips and the awakening happening to change the paradigm.  So get off the mat and do your part.  Just like Greg Smith.  The choice is yours.

Peace and wisdom,
Mike

 

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Fri, 03/16/2012 - 01:15 | 2260910 iDealMeat
Thu, 03/15/2012 - 17:10 | 2259401 Stares straight...
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What is DMDM dark fiber?  What is last mile solutions?

Who was the CEO?

Fascinating, I want to hear more!

 

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 17:38 | 2259468 seventree
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From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

A dark fiber or unlit fiber is an unused Optical fiber, available for use in fiber-optic communication.

The term dark fiber was originally used when referring to the potential network capacity of telecommunication infrastructure, but now also refers to the increasingly common practice of leasing fiber optic cables from a network service provider, or, generally, to the fiber installations not owned or controlled by traditional carriers.

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 18:56 | 2259716 CH1
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It's DWDM: Dense Wavelength Division Multiplexing

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 14:58 | 2258869 Bam_Man
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Speaking of ignorance, I believe the man's name is actually Stephen Hawking - not Hawkings.

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 15:10 | 2258913 Zero Govt
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the 'genius' believes in climate change ...he's clearly pretty stupid, who cares what his name is

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 15:16 | 2258941 LowProfile
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He's smart, but not a genius.  Haisch (and many others) run(s) rings around him.

It's just that he's stuck in a wheelchair with nothing else to do but think, so we assume he's smart.  He then gets an inordinant amount of press resulting from his condition.

Quantity /= Quality.

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 15:24 | 2258977 CrockettAlmanac.com
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He's smart, but not a genius. Haisch (and many others) run(s) rings around him.

 

Not much of a contest, is it?

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 16:23 | 2259232 LowProfile
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OK...  I apologize for that.  I really do.

But I bet all those junking me never even heard of Bernard Haisch before.  Read a book, fucktards!

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 17:42 | 2259476 DoChenRollingBearing
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+ 1 for an interesting reference!

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 15:24 | 2258982 Christophe2
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Poor guy is stuck trying to buttress the BS he inherited from the zionist scumbag Einstein (general relativity and its absurd black holes + dark matter)

=> look up the electric / plasma universe for an alternate view of the universe, one that actually makes sense!

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 15:39 | 2259045 memyselfiu
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you're fucking joking, right?

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 16:32 | 2259256 iDealMeat
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No..  he's not... and he's right..

 

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 16:51 | 2259325 memyselfiu
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Is he? Last time I checked general relativity was the standard accepted theory with nothing even coming close to usurping it.

http://www.leapsecond.com/great2005/index.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COBE

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 18:19 | 2259555 LowProfile
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Lorentzian Relativity does a much better job than GR/SR.

No need for "frames" or any other kludgy workarounds.

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 16:01 | 2259143 Debt-Is-Not-Money
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The "electric universe and the plasma discharge comet model were theorized and published about 26 years ago by a Minnesotan scientist- James M. McCanney M.S. Physics- when he was at Cornell University.

http://www.jmccsci.com/

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 16:37 | 2259272 LowProfile
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Poor guy is stuck trying to buttress the BS he inherited from the zionist scumbag Einstein (general relativity and its absurd black holes + dark matter)

=> look up the electric / plasma universe for an alternate view of the universe, one that actually makes sense!

 

Ding ding ding ding we have a winnah!

I would also recommend Thomas VanFlandern's further development of Lorentzian Relativity.

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 17:36 | 2259415 memyselfiu
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come on, really?

Maybe all the elites and bankstahs are descendants of planet V inhabitants!

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 18:20 | 2259559 LowProfile
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Ad Hominem?

That the best you can do, really?

Fucktard!

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 21:03 | 2260181 Reptil
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Thanks for the link, interesting.

What I know

1. CERN found particles that travel faster than light

2. NASA guys admit in public they've got positives in cold fusion research (also check SPAWAR while you're at it)

3. NASA guys also say now they think the universe is not homogenous, like there is different energy and matter everywhere.

4. I'm not a physicist so i can't comment on the "Electric Universe" but the fourth state of matter; plasma, does point in that general direction. Perhaps a combination of different things, like here on earth..

5. There some funky shit going on with anti gravity and modulation (Transitional Quantum State), and with so called "Quasicrystals".

all of that makes perfect sense to me. the whole "the universe is ABX" is total hogwash anyway. We got a car-sized piece of technology (Voyager) outside of the solar system, but that's about it, we're told. Perhaps "we" got more, until the opposite is proven, that too is possible.

cheers

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 17:44 | 2259479 daccord
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your right it makes sense through simple logic and knowledge. Most cosmology is convoluted explanations and obscene hypothesis that could be summed up as WHO THE FUCK KNOWS 

http://www.plasmacosmology.net/electric.html

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 00:00 | 2260627 New World Chaos
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Relativity has passed many experimental tests, including tests of bizarre effects like time dilation and frame-dragging.  I doubt the electric universe, etc. can pass these tests.    Calling Relativity "Jewish physics" doesn't change that fact.  Sure, it is not the final theory because it is incomplete vs. quantum mechanics, yadda yadda, but it lines up with reality very well.  Building up theories that explain ever-widening patches of reality is what theoretical physicists try to do.  Experimental physicists then attack those theories.   The old dualistic creative/destructive approach, leading to a stronger synthesis.  And in the end there can be only One. 

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 16:18 | 2259211 tmosley
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Your intellect doesn't matter when you base your thoughts and predictions on a false premise.

No-one can argue that Ben Bernanke isn't smart, or that Karl Marx wasn't smart.  They just made an assumption that something was true when it wasn't (you can spend your way out of debt, and that wealth disparity is due to theft/exploitation).  The results have been disastrous. 

IQ doesn't matter much at all.

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 16:27 | 2259245 Strelok
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Well said.

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 16:34 | 2259266 LowProfile
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It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.

-Mark Twain.

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 17:44 | 2259481 DoChenRollingBearing
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Excellent reply tmosley, + 1

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 14:58 | 2258871 LarryDavis
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Lex Steele and Mandingo rise to the occassion all the time. Well here it's a little different instead of having some marginally attractive slut frothing at your loins, you are asking idiots to recognize the decit, acknowledge their plight, and then formulate an intelligent response. Not happening. 

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 14:59 | 2258872 Sophist Economicus
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Hopefully the other side of the bell curve can influence the debate for the first times in five thousand years. That is my hope and my vision of the future.

 

Kruger, who cares about your vision?   How about that experiment about 250 years ago?   I know it is against your world view since you supported the rhetoric of the idiot that is in office now.   Right, you were duped...Not your fault, blah blah blah

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 15:26 | 2258990 CrockettAlmanac.com
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We don't all have the luxury of a 1.000 batting average. Do you?

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 14:59 | 2258873 Devout Republican
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Hey Mike,

 

Great article.  BTW you mentioned Andrew Breitbart had tapes on Obama.  Any idea if they will ever be released?  I was hoping we could stop this radical muslim in his tracks before the election.  If they killed him for the tapes, as you implied, they will surley be explosive!  Can't wait!

 

TIA

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 15:15 | 2258938 memyselfiu
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I believe he died as a result of ejaculating too many times over said tapes with his same sex lover Rush....but that could just be an unsubstantiated rumour....

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 16:36 | 2259270 Blanche DuBois
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Junk, and your screen name too!

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 14:59 | 2258876 Hohum
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Obama's approval ratings are down because the price of gasoline is up.  It's not more complicated than that.

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 16:26 | 2259242 Temporalist
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Bullshit. People that supported him and thought he was going go make "Change" see that he's bombing brown people in poor countries in undeclared/unconstitutional war, is siding with Wall St and is supported by the .0001% like Warren "Bubbles" Buffett amd gets his donations from them, under him nobody has gone to jail from the past administration nor from the financial collapse and things aren't getting better, his own cabinet with Holders illegal arms deals and Panetta saying that war is decided by foreign govt bodies are making people sick, that he spends money on failed govt policies (HAMP, Cash for Clunkers, Solyndra, etc.) and with that (and more) they've thrown their "Hope" to a higher power (and not the one the Republicans think they own).

Put on top of that gasoline. Still Obama is going to win in an election VS what appears will be the eventual (R) nominee (Mormon Mitt or Frothy Santorum).

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 16:34 | 2259262 Blanche DuBois
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@ Temporalist
Excellent Summarization!

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 16:46 | 2259306 Strelok
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My guess is that your asseration applies to, at most, 10% of those who voted for Obama. 

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 17:18 | 2259416 Temporalist
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Possibly. I wasn't talking about them specifically just that he's not suckering everyone that he did last time. The point was that it is not just gasoline.

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 19:01 | 2259739 CH1
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Obama's approval ratings are down becaus...

Does anyone sane still give a fuck?

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 21:01 | 2260173 Cathartes Aura
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how come "approval ratings" are always touted as truthy, when everything else is an acknowledged lie?

+100

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 15:37 | 2258882 lemonobrien
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same as it ever was.

 

This is like hope & change for the doomer crowd. Oh, peoples wills rise ups and slaughter the 1% who controls us. it will changes, it wills.

you know what, here's the truth, if humanity rises up, it will look like syria, and if the revolution is successful, the new boss will be much like the old boss; just his supporters will be in charge.

i'm tired of these pussy ass, stupid articles on how it is, gonna be, etc. Its gonna be blood, piss, and shit, and hopefully with some good weed, a hot chick, tv, and a warm bath; a fines single malt scotch will also help.

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 16:47 | 2259308 LowProfile
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a fines single malt scotch will also help

...Looks to me you might want to stop that shit for a year or so and see if it still holds it's appeal.

I'm sure that will be no problem...  : p

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 15:04 | 2258886 mayhem_korner
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Yes these guys are finished.  So is the devil.  But both will try to take down as many as possible in their exodus.

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 15:05 | 2258888 Bazinga
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My biggest frustration is that the sheeple are not rising up quickly enough. But enough to scare TPTB - the Fed on Twitter and preparing k-12 (and college) lesson plans! Hopefully there are enough red pills to go around...? 

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 15:05 | 2258891 suckerfishzilla
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Humans will extinguish themselves via some nuclear accident.  No need to worry. 

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 16:08 | 2259179 SilverDOG
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suckerfishzilla,

 

Now that, is guaranteed.

All the cooling pools(thousands) full of spent fuel with half life of 240,000+- years.

A touch of social, political, financial, turmoil and... whoops "we forgot to keep the fridge on" said corporate spokesperson. "Our stock dividend is at a new high however".

Humans have found their ultimate adversary; themselves.



Thu, 03/15/2012 - 16:19 | 2259214 suckerfishzilla
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The fat lady hasn't sang over at Fukushima yet either.  All we can do is watch and wait. 

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 15:08 | 2258898 Zero Govt
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" Just like Greg Smith.  The choice is yours."

Yep. There's only 1 decision the people have to make..

...To Pay Tax, or Not to Pay Tax?

If, like Greg Smith, you decide to walk away from the cushy but cancerous vampire squid that is Goldmans/Govt (by not feeding it with sponsorship money) and enough of us do it, Govt crumbles faster than you can say "unfunded Govt liabilites"

Zero Tax = Zero Govt = Freedom & Free Markets

..sooner you get with the Tax Free program the sooner this shitshow implodes (what a nice thought for the day)


Thu, 03/15/2012 - 15:07 | 2258901 Tsar Pointless
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Yep - they're rising up indeed!

To cheer for their favorite sports athlete, that is.

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 17:52 | 2259496 T-roll
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March Madness Bitchez!

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 15:08 | 2258904 azzhatter
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Read up on Cloward Piven, whether you like it or not you're living it right now

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 15:09 | 2258905 redarrow
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After 4 years of waiting, I have realized that it probably was a tremendous waste of time to sit on the sidelines. They will never allow a deflationary spiral to succeed, no matter what. Only this time, I am kicking myself for letting a tremendous opportunity go. 

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 04:39 | 2261077 SeekingNuNormal
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If the above were true, why did they let it happen in Japan?

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 04:56 | 2261080 akak
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Simple: it did NOT happen in Japan.

For the last time, the collapse of an asset bubble is NOT in any way synonymous with "deflation"!   Stocks and real estate are NOT money, and the collapse, no matter how severe, in their valuations does NOT "wipe out wealth" (it was mostly fictional and never existed in the first place in such a case), nor does it affect the true money supply --- as the constantly rising cost of living in Japan even in the face of their putative "deflation" has proven.

Please stop believing all the propaganda and disinformation of the corporate-controlled media and their pro-bankster shills.  "Deflation" under a fiat currency regime is nothing but a myth that has NEVER been seen even once in all of monetary history, as well as being a particularly malicious piece of propaganda disseminated by the financial and political PTB to smokescreen the truth (i.e., fiat currency depreciation and potential collapse) as well as to herd the unsuspecting and ignorant sheep into taking exactly the WRONG measures to protect their savings and wealth.  Do not fall for it!

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 15:09 | 2258906 chunga
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Whistleblowers seem to be coming out of the woodwork.

This one yesterday from JPMorgue employee on the U.S. Commodity Futures Trading Commission site.

Comment for Public Information Collection 77 FR 8817

Been out all day so if this is stale just junk me please; I'll go first and junk myself just in case.

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 15:09 | 2258908 mortiis
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WooHoo... 2 year aniversary for me.  Thanks for all the hard work, Tyler!  I've learned a lot.  Keep up the great work.

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 15:09 | 2258910 Jacks Nipple
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So when they take away the internet should i really get scared?

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 15:19 | 2258956 baby_BLYTHE
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You fear is justifed. A vote for Santorum is a vote to censor the internet. Fascism at its finest.

Internet pornography could conceivably become a thing of the past if Rick Santorum is elected president.

If elected, he promises to “vigorously” enforce laws that “prohibit distribution of hardcore (obscene) pornography on the Internet, on cable/satellite TV, on hotel/motel TV, in retail shops and through the mail or by common carrier.”

http://dailycaller.com/2012/03/14/vigorous-santorum-crackdown-may-catch-internet-porn-viewers-with-pants-down/

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 15:29 | 2258998 mayhem_korner
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And you consider that censoring the internet...I mean, the whole thing?  Is there nothing else for which the internet is useful?

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 15:50 | 2259090 chubbar
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I'd consider it moving the camels head quite a way inside the tent though.

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 15:53 | 2259108 baby_BLYTHE
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I consider it a civil liberties issue, free speech specifically. You really think they would stop at internet pornography? SOPA is a perfect example of how eager TPTB are to full censorship of the net.

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 16:15 | 2259130 mayhem_korner
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Rudi Guliani's "censorship" stopped at the porn shops and brothels in NYC.  Did wonders for the crime rate. 

I just don't jump immediately to the conclusion that Santorum is interested in broad-based censorship.

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 16:49 | 2259316 LowProfile
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If it's censored, then how will you know it was applied "correctly"?

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 15:58 | 2259127 memyselfiu
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Who are you or the government to decide what is and what is not useful on the internet? Ever hear of a the slippery slope?

Edit: I love being off work, I can shit disturb this entire thread!

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 16:06 | 2259140 mayhem_korner
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I was just asking a question, Jethro.  I don't bear a burden to prove that someone's actual intent exceeds their stated intent.  Y'all are speculating.

Edit: careful you don't overstate your impact here, Jethro.

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 16:57 | 2259353 memyselfiu
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Jethro? Hahaha

I'm just channeling your cranky avatars is all.

I like to make my impact in the real world, thanks all the same. But I'll try to be more 'careful' in the future. ;-)

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 15:11 | 2258919 economessed
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There might be a corollary to all this:  the smallest minority with the most to lose will fight the hardest to retain what they believe is "theirs."  If that is true (and I believe it is), you must adopt the strategy of "do not fight."  Rather, you must focus on eliminating this trivial minority.

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 15:16 | 2258921 bob_dabolina
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I don't think the 1% are all that evil if you think about it.

Some of it was luck and being at the right place at the right time. But most of the 1% are smart, driven to succeed, creative, and have the innate ability to adapt to an ever changing world dynamic. I'm not speaking in absolute terms, not all 1%ers meet the aforementioned criteria, but for the most part they do.

The one percent have given us the internet, cell phones, jet planes, computers, entertainment, and everything inbetween.

The fact is the 1% have something the other 99% don't have and that's just the way it is. If you want supreme equality you can always move to Uganda or Kenya where everyone is pretty much poor and there is one class.

Most people are like sheep and believe everything they are told without applying any form of critical thinking. Let's take Obamas crusade on alternative energy like solar panels. Well a solar salesman came to my parents house (parents live in CT) my father sat down and did the math and figured it would take 50 years to see ROI on the panels. This is when my father was 60 so he would be 110 before he started to benefit. But in CT you get ice storms, nor'easters, blizzards, storms, and wind. So in that 50 years those panels are going to need to get replaced, so lets say they need to get replaced once, you're talking 100 years before you're getting ROI. What about enviromentally friendly wind farms. Well we can't build various pipelines because they interfere with caribou migration. However, wind farms kill birds by the 10,000s, kill bats, and destroy property values. What happens if in 50 years the wind doesn't blow as strong? Nothing can compete with fossil fuels and nuclear energy...NOTHING. Furthermore, what Obama wants us to do is lower our consumption of oil, he wants you to sacrifice. But guess what? Emerging market economies will enjoy cheaper oil due to your sacrifice. You want to save the world by not building coal powered power plants (BTW where the fuck do you think the electricity comes from to charge your electric car?) well guess what China does? They build the plants, create the jobs, and allllll that polution finds it's way into the jet stream and lands on your lawn anyway.

There will always be a 1% in control. It will ALWAYS be like that. But the more we embrace third world people from Uganda, and Kenya, the more our society will resemble those places. Finally, if people continue to listen to politicians and embrace these fantastical policies, the more they will suffer. It's really that simple.

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 15:20 | 2258958 Stackers
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Its not the 1% that are the problem. It's the 0.01% and their paid goons - aka politicians - that are the problem. The 0.01% feed off the 1%'s drive and true entrepreneurship.

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 15:24 | 2258979 bob_dabolina
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The people elect the politicians so maybe the American people should look into the mirror.

They could have come out in overwhelming numbers to support Ron Paul. But they didn't.

If we have anyone to blame, we can blame ourselves...not the .01% or the .001%, or the .00000001%.

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 04:36 | 2261075 SeekingNuNormal
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I was just born here, I never signed up to be a part of this pseudo-democracy.

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 17:30 | 2259421 Pseudo Anonym
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let's narow it down. so, we go from 1% to 0.01%:

Its not the 1% that are the problem. It's the 0.01%

if that's true, than who's the "man"? who's the "top dog"?  that's what I want to know. {name and address, please}

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 15:22 | 2258966 memyselfiu
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i am bob_dabolinas dumb-fuck-ed-ness

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 15:25 | 2258987 mayhem_korner
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I expect I'm in the minority here, but why do I not feel like the 1% have control over me?  I've got my health, my faith, friends, and more than enough stuff, including stockpiles of extra stuff just in case. 

I'm just not seeing a need to "rise up," especially since these clowns are going to blow this thing up all by themselves.

 

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 17:00 | 2259362 memyselfiu
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Jethro gives you one up arrow- minus the faith.

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 15:34 | 2259023 CrockettAlmanac.com
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The one percent have given us the internet, cell phones, jet planes, computers, entertainment, and everything inbetween.

 

So you believed Al Gore when he said he invented the Internet?

If you study history you'll find that power brokers are the least productive people on the planet. The only thing they excell at is destruction.

Most advances come from little guys who might fight their way up and eventually enjoy wealth and power but the motivation to do so is based in physical need and dedication to a work ethic which are qualities which entrenched power brokers do not possess.

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 15:39 | 2259040 bob_dabolina
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So you believed Al Gore when he said he invented the Internet?

Yea, if you re-read my comment that's what I said. I said "Al Gore created the internet"

I believe that Al Gore is heavily invested in green energy and is a main player in the man made global warming scam. 

Documentary for you -

Global Warming Or Global Governance

http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/global-warming-or-global-governance/

 

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 16:11 | 2259139 CrockettAlmanac.com
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Contrary to your claim the 1% have created virtually nothing of value to humanity. Look at the humble beginnings of Carnegie, Edison, Bell, the Wrights, Farnsworth, etc.

Your premise is simply wrong. I tossed in Al Gore for comic effect. Perhaps I should have tipped you off by amending the statement with "Ha! Ha!" or a suitable emoticon ;-)

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 17:47 | 2259490 Dapper Dan
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I belive that there is a global warming scam, but I belive also that the climate is in fact warming.

Professional Societies and Research Institutions on whether human are causing climate change through activities that increase concentrations of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere.

Humanity driving climate change:

Academia Mexicana de Ciencias
Academy Council of the Royal Society of New Zealand
Academy of Science of South Africa
Academy of Sciences Malaysia
Accademia Nazionale dei Lincei, Italy
African Academy of Sciences
American Association for the Advancement of Science
American Association of State Climatologists
American Astronomical Society
American Chemical Society (world's largest scientific organization with over 155,000 members)
American Geophysical Union
American Institute of Physics
American Meteorological Society
American Physical Society
Australian Academy of Sciences
Australian Bureau of Meteorology and the CSIRO
Australian Coral Reef Society
Australian Meteorological and Oceanographic Society
Brazilian Academy of Sciences
British Antarctic Survey
Cameroon Academy of Sciences
Canadian Foundation for Climate and Atmospherice Sciences
Canadian Meteorological and Oceanographic Society
Caribbean Academy of Sciences
Chinese Academy of Sciences
Deutsche Akademie der Naturforscher Leopoldina
Engineers Australia (The Institution of Engineers Australia)
Environmental Protection Agency (EPA)
European Federation of Geologists
European Geosciences Union
European Physical Society
Federation of American Scientists
Federation of Australian Scientific and Technological Societies
French Academy of Sciences
Geological Society of America
Geological Society of Australia
German Academy of Natural Scientists Leopoldina
Ghana Academy of Arts and Sciences
Indian National Science Academy
Indonesian Academy of Sciences
International Council on Science
International Union for Quaternary Research
International Union of Geodesy and Geophysics
Kenya National Academy of Sciences
l’Académie des Sciences et Techniques du Sénégal
Madagascar’s National Academy of Arts, Letters and Sciences
NASA's Goddard Institute of Space Studies
National Academies of Science (US)
National Center for Atmospheric Research
National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration
National Research Council
Nigerian Academy of Sciences
Pew Center on Climate Change
Polish Academy of Sciences
Royal Flemish Academy of Belgium for Sciences and the Arts
Royal Irish Academy
Royal Meteorological Society
Royal Society of Canada
Royal Society of New Zealand
Royal Society, United Kingdom
Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences
Russian Academy of Sciences
Science Council of Japan
State of the Canadian Cryosphere
Stratigraphy Commission - Geological Society of London (The world's oldest and the United Kingdom's largest geoscience organization)
Sudan Academy of Sciences
Tanzania Academy of Sciences
Texas A&M - Department of Atmospheric Sciences
The Institution of Engineers Australia
The Network of African Science Academies
Uganda National Academy of Sciences
Union of Concerned Scientists
United Nations Environment Program
United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change
US Geological Survey
Woods Hole Oceanographic Institute – Ocean and Climate Change Institute
Woods Hole Research Center
World Meteorological Organization
World Wildlife Fund
Zambia Academy of Sciences
Zimbabwe Academy of Sciences

Uncertain about extent of human role:

American Association of Petroleum Geologists

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 18:27 | 2259597 Dapper Dan
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They have not established that greenhouse gases are warming the earth. The IPCC is a political organization set up by the United Nations to provide evidence to support the framework convention on climate change, which has been signed by governments; it is entirely political. Interviews of climate scientists and biologists from numerous sources who explain, step by step, why Al Gore and the global warming alarmists are incorrect. In some cases, blatantly so. It also provides evidence that the global warming agenda is being funded with tens of billions of dollars as a mechanism to create global governance.   Hear from congressmen, experts and even well-known news broadcasters how global governance puts global institutions that are not accountable to the American people in control of every aspect of our economy. The U.S. government is very close to making this a reality. Very close.

Every American, every citizen of the world, needs to hear the other side of the global warming story.

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I belive most of the above taken from your link, but I also belive the climate is warming, man made? i really can not say, it's worth investigating. Should some people be allowed to tax carbon output? should some make money on it? no to both. 

After Google earthing in great detail the largest 10 citys in the world I would venture to guess man has had some impact on global temeratures, at the very least a small impact. I strongly belive we need some dialog on the subject, so how about it bob do you think the climate is warming? regardless of what the cause.

As to " Hear from congressmen, experts and even well-known news broadcasters" statement, well,  I think I have been a ZHer long enough to not fall for that one.

We may not be on the same page, but at least in the same book.

"It is clear that while science provides insights into the complexity of the world around us, those insights...present a fractured mosaic rather than a seamless whole. There are profound limits to science that must be recognized if we are to minimize the destructive consequences of using the powers provided by scientific discovery."

David Suzuki


 

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 18:40 | 2259622 bob_dabolina
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The whole point of what I've been trying to say is that the climate changes. Our planet has gone through periods of extreme heat, and the polar opposite, extreme cold. All of this occured prior to the industrial revolution.

The only thing that is constant about our climate is.............that it changes.

In the 70's scientists were predicting an ICE AGE.

In the late 2000's it's been largely GLOBAL WARMING

....and now just recently it's been feathered down to CLIMATE CHANGE.

lulz...who's making the money off the hysteria? That's where you find where the bullshit starts.

 

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 18:48 | 2259689 tickhound
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The Sun can't pay carbon tax so...........

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 19:04 | 2259751 bob_dabolina
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lol

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 18:22 | 2259575 LowProfile
Thu, 03/15/2012 - 18:34 | 2259621 CrockettAlmanac.com
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Climate Change advocate forced to admit that scientific data shows no warming for over a decade:

 

Yesterday Prof Muller insisted that neither his claims that there has not been a standstill, nor the graph, were misleading because the project had made its raw data available on its  website, enabling others to draw their own graphs.

However, he admitted it was true that the BEST data suggested that world temperatures have not risen for about 13 years. But in his view, this might not be ‘statistically significant’,  although, he added, it was equally  possible that it was – a statement which left other scientists mystified.

‘I am baffled as to what he’s trying to do,’ Prof Curry said.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2055191/Scientists-said-climate-change-sceptics-proved-wrong-accused-hiding-truth-colleague.html#ixzz1pEPhxv00
Thu, 03/15/2012 - 18:53 | 2259705 Dapper Dan
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How many have heard about global dimming?

With 9/11, climatologists realized they had an unprecedented opportunity to scrutinize individual contrails. For a long time, scientists didn't even have a baseline from which to begin to answer that question. Studying contrails has always been difficult. They're high in the sky and either so fleeting that they're gone in minutes or so persistent that dozens or even hundreds can crisscross one another, making the study of individual contrails to get a baseline all but impossible.

Contrail hiatus

At least that was the case until September 11, 2001. For the first time since the jet age began, virtually all aircraft were grounded over the United States for three days. Even as they tried like the rest of us to absorb the enormity of the terrorist attacks, climatologists realized they had an unprecedented opportunity to scrutinize individual contrails, and several studies were quickly launched.

One study looked at the aforementioned contrails that grew to cover 7,700 square miles. Those condensation trails arose in the wake of six military aircraft flying between Virginia and Pennsylvania on September 12, 2001. From those isolated contrails, unmixed as they were with the usual dozens of others, Patrick Minnis, a senior research scientist at NASA's Langely Research Center, and his colleagues were able to gain valuable insight into how a single contrail forms. Those once-in-a-lifetime data sets are so useful that Minnis is about to analyze them again in an expanded study.

Another study that took advantage of the grounding gave striking evidence of what contrails can do. David Travis of the University of Wisconsin-Whitewater and two colleagues measured the difference, over those three contrail-free days, between the highest daytime temperature and the lowest nighttime temperature across the continental U.S. They compared those data with the average range in day-night temperatures for the period 1971-2000, again across the contiguous 48 states. Travis's team discovered that from roughly midday September 11 to midday September 14, the days had become warmer and the nights cooler, with the overall range greater by about two degrees Fahrenheit.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/space/contrail-effect.html

It is ironic that if we did not fly planes all over the globe the planet would warm 2 Deg F

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 21:33 | 2260282 Cathartes Aura
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I found your comment very interesting, have read similar from a "different" perspective that correlate to what you're saying. . .

you, and others, may find this link of interest, from an other angle:

22. Is the Shield Project the only such aerial spraying program?
 
Is it the only project designed to avert ecological disaster? Then yes. There are countless other projects that could be taking place which include spraying of some sort or another. Pesticides are usually sprayed. There has been great interest in weather control such as bringing rain to arid regions and taking the punch out of hurricanes and typhoons.
 
Weather control may be one of the final options left to us. Considering the amount of global warming that has taken place. There is a strong need to deflect a storm's fury, or to bring rain back to those regions which have been suffering drought.
 
What Mother Nature has done for millions of years automatically may now require mankind's hand to keep the schedule.

[. . .] Spraying is done in such away as to "layer" the material through a volume that will allow an acceptable level of UV and heat through along with all the other wavelengths of light. Photosynthesis is the foundation of life on our planet.
 
Only when all the material is removed in a local area does it require a massive spray, this is usually in the front of a weather system, or after a heavy period of precipitation. Then a tanker is flown, fully loaded.
 

25. Is there any truth in the story that some of the spraying is done by jetliners with modifications in the "honey" or waste compartment? For example, see mechanic story: Mechanic.
 
The technology used for spraying is rather simple. It requires at least two tanks under pressure, each carries half of the mixture which is sprayed at the same time forming a complete compound which is designed to be lightweight (so as to be suspended for longer periods of time). cont.

http://www.holmestead.ca/chemtrails/shieldproject.html#added

for the record here, I'm still gathering information, but I do watch the sky, and I know what I see.

 

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 17:40 | 2259428 memyselfiu
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Crockett, I wanted to up arrow your excellent comment but your arrows are not working !

------If you study history you'll find that power brokers are the least productive people on the planet. The only thing they excell (sp) at is destruction.------

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 18:34 | 2259628 CrockettAlmanac.com
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Thank you.

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 16:00 | 2259144 chubbar
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First, I've no doubt the salesmans figures do come out to a 50 yr ROI. However, I have personally installed 3 solar systems and all of them have returns from between 7 years to 15 years to complete payoff. The variation is because of mounting systems. If you have a south facing roof of adequate size then you are all set and your payoff will be in the low range.

The trick is buying right, installing cheaply and installing it correctly. Not really that much to the whole process. Panels are going for under a buck a watt right now at www.sunelec.com (no affliation).

Some states even have a REC (renewable energy credit) system in place to pay you every year on the energy you produce (even though you consume it as well). I get $500/yr on my system, not sure how long the program will last though.

I'm further north than your dad as well but manage to produce 10mwhs/yr on a 8.4kwh system.

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 17:22 | 2259434 memyselfiu
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Some would say that, if the grid was ever to go down, the ROI would be immediate!

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 18:02 | 2259447 bob_dabolina
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The salesman figures came into what you said: 7-15 years. My dad did much more research to come up with the 50 year number.

The variance in how you come up with the # of years for ROI is not as important as the fact that those panels will need to be replaced due to natural occurences. If there is a blizzard that dumps 18 inches those panels will get damaged. Furthermore, some of that water will melt and than refreeze which will also damage the panels. You will get storms that damge the panel with wind alone. Last I checked birds shit, and you're going to have to pay people to get up on your roof and clean them regularly. There are many other examples, I'm just tired of writing about it. 

In a place like Arizona, sure, solar panels can make sense. But most of the population is concentrated on the Eastern seaboard, a climate which has tornados, hurricanes, tropical storms, blizzards, and other forms of inclement weather that will damage those panels. When you get a week of cloudy weather you're going to have to draw from the power grid and you also have to factor that into your ROI.

Meanwhile people are concerned about CO2 emissions. Well guess what? CO2 is plant food, and it's a means for larger crop yield for farmers. I knew a guy when I was living in CA who grew Marijuana on a large scale, he actually had tanks pumping CO2 into his grow room so his plants would yield more. There is also no definative evidence that C02 causes the globe to get warmer. The FACT is the SUN, that big ball of fission, goes through periods of solar maxima and solar minimum. It shoots balls of heat and radiation in the form of coronal mass ejections, and it gets cold spots. No one wants to accept that the sun may have something to do with how warm our planet gets. In fact studies by NASA have shown that....ALL PLANETS IN OUR SOLAR SYSTEM have experienced warming similar to that of Earth; Shocking, I know...perhaps man is responsible for that too.

But Al Gore (and others like him) have invested money in green energy. Guess what they're gona' do? They are gona' scare the shit out of you and make you believe that unless you buy their products (or the products they have invested in) the climate is going to change and we're all gona' fuckin' die. You're gona' believe it and go and buy their shit and make them billions of dollars. Don't forget, it ALWAYS comes down to $$$. You don't see Al going to Europe in a sailboat, he's in a private jet getting picked up by an SUV.

Don't even get me started on big pharma.

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 20:28 | 2260065 chubbar
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Well Bob, I'll just say that none of your negatives are true. The panels are guaranteed to 25yrs. They are usually installed between 30 and 45 degrees of tilt (your latitude is the usual tilt for fixed panels) and last I checked shit rolls down hill (in a rain storm) so constant cleaning is not necessary and no, 18" of snow doesn't hurt them and usually slides off within two days after a storm (here in NH). Freezing rain, sleet-no impact.

NOW, a LARGE hailstorm would probably damage them but then again that would also fuck up your car and house which is why insurance comes in handy.

No, cloudy days DO NOT factor into my calculation. My inverter (they all do) tracks the electricity it produces as does the Electric Co. I make 10 Mega watt hours per year. At 15 cents per Kilowatt that comes to $1500 per year. I also get a check for about  $370 in REC points after they deduct meter and read charges. A system with everything you need for a roof mounted system is about 24K delivered. I installed them myself for free but that normally costs around 6-10K depending on who installs it.

The gov't gives you a 30% tax CREDIT on your actual expenses and the state gave me 6K renewable rebate check. That means after credits and rebate I spent $10,800 for the system. $10,800/1870 equals ROI of 5.78 years. Have a nice day.

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 20:51 | 2260100 bob_dabolina
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Where do you live?

And why do I need a tax credit from the government?

AAPL created a good market. It must be strange to you that it's not subsidized by the government.

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 21:17 | 2260236 chubbar
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I'm in mid NH area about 46 degrees latitude.

Don't take the tax credit if you don't want too. I am forced to pay taxes so I'll take some back if they offer it.

I don't trade the markets and don't understand why you'd think I'm for big gov't because I'm trying to get myself unhooked from utilities, etc? I was merely trying to help you understand my earlier comment on ROI and why you were incorrect. Perhaps your dad may want to revisit his calcs or perhaps not. I don't care either way, I'm not a solar guy pimping his product. I was just trying to offer facts so you were better informed on this particular matter.

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 22:27 | 2260459 bob_dabolina
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If solar was a legit form of energy it wouldn't need government subsidies.

Bitch.

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 21:45 | 2260320 Cathartes Aura
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AAPL is subsidised by the Chinese children it uses to make their iProducts - no one factors this in because humans are worth-less.

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 15:14 | 2258931 CapitalistRock
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The reality is not nearly so complicated or sinister. Political power comes from running larger deficits. That allows politicians to provide free cotton candy and entertainment while delaying the part where it actually gets paid for. Most people are stupid. They tend to elect people who spend like mad because it gives the appearance of progress. Those deficits will get funded by monetizing the debt. Inflation.

This has been taking place since the Roman Empire. It's the illusion government can create with fiat currency. There's nothing new here. The outcome has been repeated so many times in history and twice already on American soil. I don't understand why ZH published this article. It provides no new insights.

Preparing is simple. Own real assets. Gold and silver are your best bets but you should diversify. Real estate. Food storage. Marketable job skills (yes, it's still possible).

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 15:14 | 2258932 baby_BLYTHE
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The Grid will stay in place until the money stops working. Until then the majority of the people are just happy getting a paycheck, or foodstamps, and are content sitting on the couch watching their favorite sports team while downloading the latest app on their iShit.

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 21:59 | 2260364 Cathartes Aura
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or porn.

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 15:14 | 2258933 johnQpublic
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for this to become true in any way shape or form, the peaceful 1% will need to become killers, buy massive amounts of high tech armaments, print gold, and a number of other things like raise an enormous army

 

not

gonna

happen

there will be no revolution

hell, the 1% of peaceful folks wouldnt even know who to really start shooting at

who is really pulling the strings?

no one here can truly say without a shadow of a doubt

all you see are the minions who are there to be a face to hate

concept/fail

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 15:38 | 2259041 CrockettAlmanac.com
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All we have to do is wait for TPTB to end up on their backs through their own mistakes. Then we have to be smart enough not to let them get back up.

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 15:14 | 2258935 rsnoble
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I'm still trying to figure out what good nuclear war will do for th elites?  Surely they know the atmospher will be destoryed. They'll all be in a bunker with piles of gold, the whole earth will be ruined, and they'll think they've won.  That's how fucking crazy they are.  I wouldn't doubt it for a minute.

BTW---while many think this article is just 'wishful' thinking you better get that out of your mind I assure you what's coming is worth trying to avoid at any cost.

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 15:33 | 2259021 Vince Clortho
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The scary thing is that members of the ruling cartel are not necessarily sane.  We know now that during the JFK administration, the Joint Chiefs were arguing in favor of a pre-emptive nuclear strike on the USSR.  Guys at the very top of the US military and Intel thought the US could win a nuclear war....

It's a mistake to think, because someone has attained a position of great wealth and power, that they are rational human beings.  You can make a very good argument for the exact opposite.

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 15:19 | 2258944 Dr. Acula
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"Just take a look at Obama’s approval ratings. They are plunging."

Whatever. LOL. There is a 60.5% chance Obama will be re-elected:

http://www.intrade.com/v4/markets/contract/?contractId=743474

If not Obama, then it will be Romney. One is a Soviet-style health care pusher. The other is a Soviet-style health care architect.

It's like a choice between the Sith apprentice and the Sith master.

 

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 15:25 | 2258986 memyselfiu
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not Soviet style-Mussolini style

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 15:22 | 2258968 Stackers
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It only takes 3% of the population to effect real change in a system. It would be easy to pit our 3% against the 0.01% that is ruining everything.

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 15:22 | 2258970 Spacemoose
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impossible for us to form a new system, i'm afraid.  we are now two distinct cultures.  those who believe that social and economic justice should be the highest priority of government and those who believe preservation of individual freedom and liberty should be the highest priority. those in the first group believe that collective responsibility should be mandatory and individual responsibility should be optional.  the second group, believes that individual responsibility should be mandatory and collective responsibility should be voluntary.  there's no middle ground.  many of those in the first group will be duped by the 1% into fighting for the interests of the 1% (GE Carbon Free Windmills or Archer Daniels food safety regulations or Big Pharma Obamacare regulations for instance).

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 15:40 | 2259053 CrockettAlmanac.com
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Folks need to understand that social and economic justice is only attainable through individual liberty and personal responsibility.

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 15:48 | 2259080 Spacemoose
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i've come to the depressing conclusion that many people actually enjoy being serfs.  it is relaxing being a child all of your life and having someone else take care of you and bandage you up when you fall down or make mistakes.

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 16:05 | 2259161 CrockettAlmanac.com
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It took decades of misdirection and trillions of dollars in so-called social welfare for the people to be cowed. The current state of affairs is not typical. I have a feeling that real life is about to begin again and I welcome it.

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 16:06 | 2259164 chubbar
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Everybody likes getting free shit and not having to work hard. When the money stops flowing and/or working (purchasing power) then that whole scam stops. Look out after that, I've no idea what happens but that point is fast approaching.

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 22:09 | 2260386 Cathartes Aura
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or let the .gov military invade other nationstates to secure slave labour and unbridled environmental degradation for your nationstate's cheap use while you (one) tend(s) to the shopping, collecting toys, watching TV, sports, etc. - for endless decades. . .

people tend to enjoy not being bothered about "how things get done" when they don't have to.

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 04:32 | 2261072 Escapeclaws
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very nicely put!

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 15:22 | 2258972 Chappy
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Why bother collecting taxes when they can print to infinity... Your measly tax revenue is meaningless.

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 15:41 | 2259055 CrockettAlmanac.com
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The tax code remains relevant as a carrot or stick to help enforce compliance.

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 15:24 | 2258978 A Lunatic
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Live, laugh and love. To Hell with everything that interferes with that agenda.

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 15:25 | 2258988 Nothing To See Here
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"It’s not as if we as a species are going to “lose” much.  We have been losing for centuries.  The bigger point is to take a step back and recognize the moment."

Man, thanks for the cheer up but I don't feel like waiting after I died to see an improvement. And I don't mean to be egoistic.

Anyway, we have lost for more than centuries, we have lost through all of History, save for a brief time where we almost managed to get out of it (Locke, Jefferson and early America). But obviously, freedom requires too much responsibility out of the average man to ever win over central planning in the hearts of the masses.

Morality comes with IQ. Animals don't have morals. Thus, the moral 1% of the bell curve can be expected to have higher IQs than the other 99%, which means that the 99%, including the evil 1%, can never understand why freedom works and is the basis of all morals like the 1% does. This is un-winnable.

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 15:36 | 2259033 Baleful Runes 4 U
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"Morality comes with IQ. Animals don't have morals. Thus, the moral 1% of the bell curve can be expected to have higher IQs than the other 99%"

Yeah, no.   People with higher IQs are likelier to see morality as merely a societal invention (and/or biological artifact---I can direct you to animal behavior that one could interpret as being moral, of course that gets into the "black box" difficulty). Some MAY have a personal ethical code they adhere to.

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 16:10 | 2259168 memyselfiu
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+1000. Many fail to see the reason elites layered religious morality and other fairy tales on the masses. Why? Because an open system does not work unless coparties are mostly transparent and ethical. Once the balance of the scales tip there is no going back.

The mistake that is made today is the presumption that most human beings are trustworthy and forthright. That is just not true. Humans are mostly opportunistic and selfish. Hence the proliferation of Objectivist mindset without all the pesky morality stuff.

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 15:26 | 2258989 Coffin Dodger
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I'll try and keep this brief. I'm 45 and MY WHOLE LIFE I have hated authority. Not the simple authority of what's right and what's wrong, but the authority that imposes itself upon my life without me having any say in it. Like wars. Like banks. Like corporations. Like private armies. Like politicians. You get the idea.

I've been searching for 20+ years for what went wrong with the Western World. We took a wrong turn thousands of years ago. Ever noticed how being a shitty human being makes you rise up the ranks?

Mike is spot-on with his assessment. I spent a long time depressed in the knowledge that no-one else could see what an INSANE world we live in. But in the last few months I have had a wave of relief flooding over me - other people are seeing it too. This is a great time to be alive - we are about to witness a truly earth-shattering shift in conscious perception of what it means to be a human being.

The Mayan calendar isn't about the end of the world, it's charting the expansion of the universal consciousness, including the expansion of our own consciousness, achieved through the apocalypse.

From Wikipedia -

"An apocalypse (Greek: ?????????? apokálypsis; "lifting of the veil" or "revelation") is a disclosure of something hidden from the majority of mankind in an era dominated by falsehood and misconception, i.e. the veil to be lifted"

The true meaning of apocalypse was subverted by the evil bastards that run the show eons ago - they defined it as the 'end of the world' to keep us all scared.

I'm not religious, but I feel that something truly wonderful is about to happen.

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 15:59 | 2259135 SMG
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Good to hear some optimism.   Prepare for the worst, and hope for the best.   I'll be so relieved for everybody if things work out for true good.

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 16:13 | 2259195 memyselfiu
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It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society.- Jiddu Krishnamurti

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 22:49 | 2260441 Cathartes Aura
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loved your post Coffin Dodger (and your handle)

The Mayan calendar isn't about the end of the world, it's charting the expansion of the universal consciousness, including the expansion of our own consciousness, achieved through the apocalypse.

to which I'll just add, the expansion of "universal consciousness" might just allow some to realise that all consciousness is sourced "universally" and "our own consciousness" is merely our unique point of view-ing. . . but sourced in the One.

the illusion of separation is where the dissonance arises.

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 15:27 | 2258992 i_call_you_my_base
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"While there is no doubt that the United Stated had been a wonderful place to live and do business for much of the last 60 years, as our power grew we became an increasingly destructive force in the world."

This is an illusion based on a time when it was better hidden and information was easier to control. It has been like this for a long time.

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 15:27 | 2258993 Freegolder
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I agree with the writer there are big changes a coming.

The collapse of the current financial system will rebalance the world, away from the West (Old power that has been running the world for centuries), towards the East.

I suspect that may be a good thing. Eastern nations and peoples generally seem less aggressive and interfering when compared to the US block.

Overall, I expect freegold to lead to a better fairer world economically and that can only be a good thing. If you earn it, you can save it or spend it, but you have to earn it first will be the new normal. No more debt from nothing.

It will continue to evolve, it is inevitable, the current system has only a few years left.

 

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 15:31 | 2259004 Dr. Engali
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That's a very good piece however I disagree with the concept that humanity is rising. I talked to many people still believe there is a difference between the two sides and Will defend their side. They refuse to recognize who the real enemy is.

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 15:32 | 2259016 rsnoble
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I still find people that believe the economy is improving because the stock market keeps going up. No kidding.

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 15:49 | 2259089 Silveramada
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i know! 100% right it happens all the time with people... the two sides you know... DEMO-PUBLICAN or REPU-BLOCRATIC LMAO and they still believe that shit

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 15:30 | 2259007 Baleful Runes 4 U
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"I have no doubt whatsoever that the universe deals with bad karma in its own way."

What kind of new-age horseshit is this?  First, according to the original teachings of karma, ALL of it is "bad" (ie, it ties you to phenomenal existence).

Second, history does not bear out the universe dispensing justice and dealing with "bad guys". Many mass murdering tyrants died peacefully in their sleep.

" exponential awakening on the part of the meat of the bell curve"

huh? what evidence is there of that? 

this piece is dreck

 

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 15:45 | 2259064 CrockettAlmanac.com
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Second, history does not bear out the universe dispensing justice and dealing with "bad guys". Many mass murdering tyrants died peacefully in their sleep.

 

Don't discount the mysteries of the universe. It is entirely possible that Joseph Stalin was reborn as Sandra Fluke. I wouldn't wish that on anybody.

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 15:31 | 2259010 SISSYFUSS
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I am the people--the mob--the crowd--the mass. Do you know that all the great work of the world is done through me? I am the workingman, the inventor, the maker of the world's food and clothes. I am the audience that witnesses history. The Napoleons come from me and the Lincolns. They die. And then I send forth more Napoleons and Lincolns. I am the seed ground. I am a prairie that will stand for much plowing. Terrible storms pass over me. I forget. The best of me is sucked out and wasted. I forget. Everything but Death comes to me and makes me work and give up what I have. And I forget. Sometimes I growl, shake myself and spatter a few red drops for history to remember. Then--I forget. When I, the People, learn to remember, when I, the People, use the lessons of yesterday and no longer forget who robbed me last year, who played me for a fool--then there will be no speaker in all the world say the name: "The People," with any fleck of a sneer in his voice or any far-off smile of derision. The mob--the crowd--the mass--will arrive then. -CS

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 15:48 | 2259081 CrockettAlmanac.com
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The Man in the street is fed - by Carl Sandburg - 1936

The man in the street is fed
with lies in peace, gas in war,
and he may live now
just around the corner from you
trying to sell
the only thing he has to sell,
the power of his hand and brain
to labor for wages, for pay,
for cash of the realm.

And there are no takers, he can't connect.
Maybe he says, "Some pretty good men are on the street."
Maybe he says, "I'm just a palooka... all washed up."
Maybe he's a wild kid ready for his first stickup.
Maybe he's bummed a thousand miles and has a diploma.
Maybe he can take whatever the police can hand him,
Too many of him saying in their own wild way,
"The worst they can give you is lead in the guts."

Continues at: http://brian-quester.livejournal.com/36817.html

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 15:32 | 2259012 MountainMan
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Unfortunately, the sheeple are heading towards mass slaughter -- that's what sheep do, get slaughtered.

 

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 15:33 | 2259017 TMT
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I have a bone to pick with TD and some other ZHers.  Your disdain for the 1% (this article is case in point) is confusing and at times off-putting.  The 1% you rightfully hate are really the .001% corporate elite and bankers who have bought access to politicians and help craft laws and regulations to their benefit.  I think we can agree that this subset is ruinous to the country and distort the free markets to their benefit.  Fuck them.  The rest of the 1%, as I see it, are normal hard working people who are successful.  Unfortunately, many on this blog and the OWS hate both of these groups.  We need more of the latter - people who don't have Obama on speed dial, who don't lobby for archane tax law changes that benefit them, who don't donate large sums of money to buy access.  As you would have it, you would rid the world of this group and our economy would implode.

My point being is that it would be nice not to lump the good in with the bad.  If/when your PM positions result in obscene profits (OWS speak) and you become part of the 1%, should we collectively hate you?  I think not.

Bottom line is we need more of the good 1% and none of the bad 1%, but these are two distinct subsets of the 1% that all too often on here are lumped together.

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 15:52 | 2259103 TMT
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I would encourage the down vote to grow some balls and tell me why you disagree.  My guess is you are occupying a tent in Zucati Park, demanding free fucking everything, and hate anyone or everyone who is successful in life.  Please enlighten me.

I'm sick and fucking tired of the class envy crap.  Hate the corrupt; I'm with you.  But to simply hate the successful because they have what you want is childish.  My landscaper owns a small firm who employees about 30 people, he makes a few hundred grand a year.  By definition he's in the 1%.  As you would have it, we would burn him at the stake.

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 16:14 | 2259197 SMG
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Many successful people deserve their success. I have no quarrel with them and wish them well.  They are not the 1% we are talking about.

There are many who have earned their success and power through corruption, or a Luciferian secret society .  Those are the 1% who most pay for their sins and evil.

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 16:28 | 2259246 TMT
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I agree with you.  Perhaps I'm just riled up about a decimal point and a few zeroes.  Personally I think it would make your message more impactful if you more accurately described them as the .001% versus the 1%.

Thanks for the exchange.

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 16:17 | 2259207 i_call_you_my_base
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"The rest of the 1%, as I see it, are normal hard working people who are successful."

I beg to differ. A lot of those people just inherited money. The idea that much of the wealth of this country is earned is not accurate. Many in that set are given wealth or given lucrative positions in the family business or through connections.

Certainly some people aren't and they are self-made. I suspect you and your gardener are two of them. But go to your local country club and ask those people how they made their money. It's not from the ground up.

I didn't down you, and I'm also not envious, I make a decent living.

 

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 16:22 | 2259228 TMT
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Valid point.  Sure some are members of the lucky sperm club.  What do you propose - confiscate their wealth because it was given to them?  Give it to the government because they are the best arbiters of "fair"?

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 16:29 | 2259251 i_call_you_my_base
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Well, I could get creamed on this, but in my opinion inheritance is income and our tax system is based on income, so therefore inheritance should be taxed at the same rate as income. If not, a very wealthy family could pass wealth from generation to generation without paying any taxes. My view on the inheritance tax is just that it is income, so I can only judge "fairness" on these terms, specifically that there should be equality across income taxation regardless of the source. I have the same view on capital gains as well.

What is "fair" and what a "fair" amount is, I can't answer.

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 16:39 | 2259280 TMT
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The problem is that money has already been taxed multiple times.  Moreover, I am never a proponent of sending more money to D.C. as all they will do is squander it.

My solution is simple and fair - a flat tax.  Everyone pays the same rate.  No deductions, write-offs, etc.

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 16:46 | 2259305 i_call_you_my_base
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"My solution is simple and fair - a flat tax.  Everyone pays the same rate.  No deductions, write-offs, etc."

I agree with you. The problem is that the tax system favors those with money and the resources to work around it. But this is also the reason there are a lot of "1% haters". It's not just envy, it's the perception that the entire system is rigged to benefit them.  

On the "taxed multiple times" point, I don't agree. Money is not taxed, people are taxed, income is taxed. If you own a store and I buy a lawnmower from you for $1000, that money was taxed from my income, but it will be taxed again as your income. You can not like the idea of basing taxation on income, but once you go down that path, inheritance is income.

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 16:56 | 2259349 TMT
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The problem is that the tax system favors those with money and the resources to work around it. But this is also the reason there are a lot of "1% haters". It's not just envy, it's the perception that the entire system is rigged to benefit them.

True but the tax system today greatly benefits those at the bottom as well. When just about 50% pay no federal income taxes, I think it's fair to say they are benefiting from our fucked up tax code. The reality is it benefits those at the bottom and the .001%. All of us in the middle get fucked.

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 00:31 | 2260830 Lednbrass
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I see that on guest posts, not so much posts from one of the Tylers and there is some variation among them.

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 15:36 | 2259030 optimator
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Uprising?  The 1% are well prepared for that scenario.

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 15:36 | 2259031 jbvtme
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I don't see the big deal here.  They enslave us with debt and wars.  We only need to ignore them (no voting, banking, taxes...a complete repudiation of their authority) and get on with developing the skills to survive.  Food, clothing, shelter, etc.  That's what they are afraid of:  the power of our independant living.

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 15:36 | 2259032 Silveramada
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one day the banksters will declare bank holiday and we'll wake up on a monday with 30-40% devalueted $... so why don't  we, the people, united DECLARE PEOPLE'S HOLIDAY AND TAKE ALL OUR MONEY OUT OF COMMERCIAL BANKS??? STARVE THE BEAST!!!  (and buy silver with that cash bitchez......)

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