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Guest post: Inner Freedom Comes First

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From Brandon Smith of Alt-Market

Inner Freedom Comes First

Is freedom a place, or an idea? A state of society, or a state of mind? Does it begin around us, or within us? In today’s world of the all-you-can-eat sensory buffet, where every facet of life is a bit and a byte and a radio wave and a laser beam, most of humanity looks for all of its answers to such questions in the grand ether of the tumbling data stream. We see changes in the tapestry of cultural interaction as the final measure of national progression, or regression. We confuse forward sounding language with forward moving political transformation. We are mesmerized by the illusion of environmental appearance, and forget that the indelible root of all things outward is nurtured by that which lay within.

In America, in the midst of economic crisis and government driven moral hazard, millions of people are scrambling for “solutions”. The term is used rather haphazardly and often without proper context. There are, indeed, very evil men out there in the dark precipices of global infrastructure, and, these men often instigate very bad events. However, “doing away with them” is NOT a solution. It is NOT a plan. It is merely a goal. A solution requires more than an end result; it also involves the steps necessary to achieve said result. The Liberty Movement, as it is commonly called, tends to run into so much frustration and angst, I believe, because it consistently attempts to skip to the end of the story without traveling the rest of the very necessary journey.

End the Fed! Sue the Fed! March on Washington! Vote the bums out! Take up arms! These are not actions, but reactions triggered by the confusion of the moment. Not only are they single minded responses that lack the strategy and logistics inherent in a successful counter-offensive, but such cries ignore the other devious culprit responsible for our national heartache; ourselves.

Yes, the world must change, and soon, if our principles are to survive. But, for this to happen, we must change first. Instead of looking up, down, and all around us for some magical all encompassing answer, we have to question our very assumptions and world views. No weapon of steel or of law will ever undo the tragedy we live in day to day while we lack the conviction to confront our own biases and failings. We have always been the greatest obstacle to a truly freedom based society, not the elites, who are nothing but parasites feeding off our willfully perpetuated inadequacies.

Working methodologies for combating globalization and centralization do exist. State nullification, for instance, is a significant tool for defusing obtrusive federal authority, but without the organizational willpower and perseverance to take back the now thoroughly corrupt election process county by county, state by state, while producing viable liberty minded candidates and grassroots activist groups, nullification is impossible. Survival preparation is essential for anyone who wishes to decouple from the collapsing mainstream system, but without the determination to make prepping a reality, we are left with nothing but a bunch of hungry, desperate nobodies huddled on the sidelines of the war for truth. Barter networking and alternative markets require extensive patience and unerring dedication, along with constant self education on the processes of sound money and private trade. Safe Haven and Free State Projects push us even harder, requiring us to uproot from everything we have been conditioned to accept as normal and comfortable, and travel, perhaps long distances, to begin anew in a place likely unfamiliar. All of these things involve an internal finality of purpose, a clear and unwavering path unhindered by regret. Those who undertake the above initiatives do so not because they were “told to”, but because they know, above all else, that what they are doing is right. They no longer stand in their own way, and thus, the possibilities become infinite.

For others, the endless circular battle between action and apathy continues. Below, are some of the most frequent excuses uttered by those aware of the burgeoning dangers of a disintegrating culture but who are incapable of taking the first steps of inward freedom needed to do anything about their predicament…

1) I know things are getting bad in this country, but I only have time to focus on my own problems right now…

Your immediate problems are certainly yours to solve, but they are also very likely an aftereffect of the wider problems of the world around you. Ironically, only by taking personal responsibility for the problems of the world can we alleviate the incredible pressures of our microcosmic existence. That is to say, by taking action against the trespasses of global economic and socio-political despotism, you are doing yourself and your private life a big favor.

2) I believe that a collapse (social and economic) is possible, but just can’t imagine things ever going that far…

What you can’t “imagine” is generally pretty irrelevant when considering the FACTS of any given situation. Educating one’s self on the history of modern economic and political instability is a step that many seem to overlook before drawing conclusions on the state of America today. Without a point of reference to refer to, these people are left completely in the mire as to the very real threats that lay ahead. Many of them actually avoid learning the background details of similar crises like those in Weimar Germany, Soviet Russia, Argentina, Zimbabwe, etc., because doing so would mean room for denial would disappear. Yes, our country will see darker days ahead, perhaps pitch black. Refusing to prepare for the worst will not stop the worst from happening. Never, ever, assume a disaster will “blow over”.

3) I just don’t have the money to get into survival prepping right now. Maybe I will start when I get some savings in order…

In some cases (very few) this excuse is acceptable. But, in many others it is complete nonsense. I can’t tell you how many people I’ve run into that make this claim while continuing to spend money on non-essential luxuries. Do you still have cable T.V.? Get rid of it! It stinks anyway. Do you buy a new computer every six months? Well stop! The gigs and ram you have now are probably more than adequate. Do you pour money into personal vices like drugs, cigarettes, or beer? Quit! There will be no room for them post collapse anyway. There is always money for prepping, even if it’s a little every month. The obstacle is not funding. The obstacle is your unwillingness to sacrifice certain comforts for more important investments.

4) I would delve into sound money, but it all seems too complicated…

I’ll make this simple; buying gold and silver is NOT complicated. In fact, it is very easy. If something feels “complicated”, then simply uncomplicated it by educating yourself using the numerous resources still available on the internet or your local library. Knowledge is (at this time) everyone’s prerogative. Liberty starts not with the words in an article or a book, but the decision to actually sit down and read that article or book with an open mind. Make that decision now!

5) I feel isolated, and would like to move to a safe haven with more like-minded people, but am afraid of not finding work, or leaving behind that which is familiar…

Safe Haven relocation is not for everyone, but many can at least admit that they probably live in an unstable and violence prone environment sensitive to economic unrest. Many can also admit that they do not have the support network required to survive such an event. This choice ultimately comes down to priorities. When the survival of yourself and your family is on the line, does it really matter if you are “familiar” (i.e. comfortable) with your current location? In a crumbling marketplace, is it better to take your chances with a job that you know will soon no longer exist, or to take your chances in an alternative market with increasing growth? Is it better to wait until doom is ringing the doorbell? Or, is it more practical to take measures now to insulate yourself from the storm? Learning to prioritize means learning to set aside what we want in the face of what we need.

6) I would like to become more of an activist, but isn’t it better to “keep a low profile”, and avoid retribution from the power elite…?

Fear is the most repressive internal obstacle of all. Tyrants do not conquer countries; fear conquers countries. As I have said before, when the Founding Fathers signed the Declaration of Independence, they did not sign it “Anonymous”. It is every free man’s duty to stand behind his own convictions. Holding them quietly in the corner of the room gets us nowhere. This is not to say that all our thoughts and activities should be made public, but if you can’t build up the gumption to speak the truth in the wake of a lie then you aren’t of much use to anyone, especially yourself. There is nothing illegal about organizing against corruption, and even if there was, it wouldn’t matter. Fighting for freedom means being audacious, and sometimes unconcerned about the supposed “consequences”. While we speak often of safety and preparedness, these things at bottom are also only important so far as they support our ability to put ourselves on the line for the future of our ideals. There is no room for apprehension here…

The purpose of the above is not to “shame” those in the movement who remain inactive, but to clear the fog that tends to surround any new and powerful movement against the rush of the totalitarian wildfire. We continue to look for white-knight leaders, short cut slapdash solutions, and even miracles to somehow save us from doing what we dread most; facing the fact that we are the greatest prognosticators of our own fates. We are the ones who choose freedom, or slavery. In the soft light of fading glory, only those who blaze their own trails will see the road ahead. To each man awaits a multitude of perils and rewards, all of which depend upon his inner resolve; a quality which stands upon the summit of the soul, against the wind, and the unrelenting cold.


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Fri, 09/02/2011 - 13:57 | 1627187 Big Sky
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Run to the Hills - Casper Freidrich as a guide

Fri, 09/02/2011 - 14:50 | 1627369 Oh regional Indian
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And as for the article, the title said it all. 

Know they "Self".... the only journey worth taking...


Fri, 09/02/2011 - 15:02 | 1627409 adeptus
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It's refreshing to see such an article on ZeroHedge.  Stick to what you have been doing ZeroHedge, but it is nice to know that at least one of the Tylers has some spiritual wisdom.

Fri, 09/02/2011 - 15:58 | 1627621 Git_Naked
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Um, heavy shit and I like it, but kinda dilutes the blog tbh...

Sat, 09/03/2011 - 00:41 | 1628930 Doña K
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How can one possibly raise the IQ of the average American in a lifetime to achieve this notable proposal?

You must be able to have unique qualities to even contemplate doing what's required for the collective inner souls.

How can you turn arround youth who believe that Modigliani and Botticelli are pizza toppings?

How can you turn arround young girls when you ask them to put on something demure and they reply that they do not know that designer?

How do you turn arround people when you tell them that someone is incommunicado and they ask you directions to it?

How do you turn arround youth that think the first predsident was George Washington DC? Or that a myth is a female moth?

I can go on and on all night.

Revolution is the answer my friends. Even gods can feel the fear and the wrath of the "Indignados." Destroy in order to rebuilt. "Tabula Rasa." Those with no concience, must die first.

Such was uttered oddly enough by a left wing south American poet and by Alexander the Great.

Fri, 09/02/2011 - 15:04 | 1627418 slewie the pi-rat
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he said it comes first, not that it is the "only journey worth taking"

wake UP!

Fri, 09/02/2011 - 20:03 | 1628515 slewie the pi-rat
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even a teacher of such disrepute as jesus, despised (and feared) even more today than in his earthly life, said seek ye first the kingdom w/in you.  it is a matter of priorities and  self-focused learning and self-education.  he didn't teach religion.  he didn't found a religion. but neither did he disrespect his own religious heritage, except in so far as it was "trapping puppies", via hypocrisy,  as below.  he tried to teach people the skills to use their inner resolve to stand apart from certain things w/in themselves; to be "in the world yet not of it", perhaps,  as others might put it.  this doesn't mean it's easy b/c these "things" w/in one are very powerful and hightly-conditioned responses to damned near everything.  this same despised idiot who said seek ye first also mentioned that if you do actually seek, you will find.  but seeking is not pretending to seek, no matter how elaborate, and finding is not pretending to find.  i'm not saying the inner journey will ever end, how would i know?  but i am saying that it will never begin unless it is something one "hungers and thirsts for"  strongly enuf to withstand getting the living shit beat outa you by yourself till you finally begin to see how you work, what your "problem" is.  john's gospel doesn't say this quite as strongly as the others, but yet, the reports his students left don't say anything too different do they?  but they didn't give up, either, did they?

anyone who doesn't understand this, is NOT a "teacher" of a damned thing except self-soothing saccharine yum-yums and mechanical repetition of various kinds of absolute bullshit.  but it is eZ pickings for the spiritual frauds, who eventually will show their level of spiritual ignorance...

here's why:  we have entire generations of "people" who have learned that if you "don't believe in the flying spaghetti monster", you will evolve, mechanically, no less.  the fruit is low-hanging, indeed, for the cruella devilles of "spirituality".  the "innocent puppies" who hear their "call"  don't believe in anything, don't know much, will never learn much, and are self-deluded into thinking not only they, but the others who are "with them" are "evolving", mechanically, b/c they are not "trapped" by believing in the flying spaghetti monster...

this is taught in the same universities that teach "economics" and "constitutional law"

no shit

Fri, 09/02/2011 - 20:55 | 1628630 Aragorn
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"seek ye first the kingdom w/in you"

Actually, Jesus never said that. He said:

But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you. ~Matthew 6:33~


Humanists believe that all the answers are found within each of us. Herzl, the founder of Zionism, believed this too. He turned his back on Judaism. He mocked it. (Wikipedia) These beliefs always end up in a sensual mode like egotism and materialism and hunger for power. Come to think of it, quite an average, full of poop human being.

Fri, 09/02/2011 - 21:47 | 1628718 slewie the pi-rat
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oh, i'm so sorry, i didn't thump the bible right for you, so i might be a "humanist"!  Hahaha!

different evangelists put out the ideas in different ways and in different orders.  the parables are about this inner journey no matter wtf your "pastor" or your mommy want you to "believe"

i can see by your "score" and others, that your answers, and others' are more popular than mine, which is actually, as i tried to say, part of the problem of conditioning.  your "salvation" is as much your own "problem" as is ori's "waking up" but that still doesn't mean you have one fuking idea what you are talking abt when you correct me, or even 'vote' for or against me.   i didn't say all the answers are within, but that The Teaching (didache in greek) as presented in the gospels does say seek ye first the kingdom, and that it is within you or possibly also "among" you as in some "community" being involved

American King James Version
Neither shall they say, See here! or, see there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

that is Luke 17:21;  whether "jesus" ever "said that" i don't know, but luke seems to want to say he did, ok? 

whatever you are projecting onto others who don't "know" or "believe" what you have learned, aside, you are basically an ignoramus and a fool

Sat, 09/03/2011 - 15:21 | 1629828 john39
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another angle on this theme:

The Gospel of Thomas

(1) And he said, "Whoever finds the interpretation of these sayings will not experience death."

(2) Jesus said, "Let him who seeks continue seeking until he finds. When he finds, he will become troubled. When he becomes troubled, he will be astonished, and he will rule over the All."

(3) Jesus said, "If those who lead you say to you, 'See, the kingdom is in the sky,' then the birds of the sky will precede you. If they say to you, 'It is in the sea,' then the fish will precede you. Rather, the kingdom is inside of you, and it is outside of you. When you come to know yourselves, then you will become known, and you will realize that it is you who are the sons of the living father. But if you will not know yourselves, you dwell in poverty and it is you who are that poverty."

(4) Jesus said, "The man old in days will not hesitate to ask a small child seven days old about the place of life, and he will live. For many who are first will become last, and they will become one and the same."

Fri, 09/02/2011 - 14:58 | 1627397 malek
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That's Caspar Friedrich.

Only if you ever yourself stood atop a mountain, above a sea of clouds, can you really esteem some of his works.

Fri, 09/02/2011 - 14:59 | 1627400 Doubleguns
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There is ONE patriot group with a plan and a strategy.

Fri, 09/02/2011 - 17:26 | 1628068 Sledge
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I like it! Thanks Doubleguns!

Fri, 09/02/2011 - 13:58 | 1627190 PaperBugsBurn
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If you guys dont go after the banksters once the dust settles from the crack up boom and gold standard comeback you are real pussies.

Fri, 09/02/2011 - 14:34 | 1627319 topcallingtroll
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If there really is a crackup boom and fiat repudiation have no doubt about us pussies.

That will be sufficient provocation for civil war. Taking out a few thousand bankers shouldnt be too hard during the chaos. All we need are the lists of who got TARP money and secret loans from the fed. Then we erase all of the top 200 executives from each firm. Any member of the board for the last 15 years, and all the senior bondholders. And of course anyone with the last name blankfein, norgan, rockefeller, rothschild, etc, and all owners of the fed and their top two hyndred executives and their senior bondholders.

Note to self. Need more rope and ammo.

Fri, 09/02/2011 - 14:45 | 1627353 flacon
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What about the citizens who created money by siging it into existence in the form of a loan, such as a mortgage or a credit card? 

Fri, 09/02/2011 - 15:43 | 1627560 goldfish1
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You mean the ones duped by the debt creators? What about 'em?

Fri, 09/02/2011 - 14:46 | 1627355 Van Halen
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Screw the rope and ammo! Too much work and not as fun as a guillotine!  :)  Imagine the lovely collection of heads from banksters, politicians, hollywood celebrities and politicians you could have hanging on the welcome sign to your home town!

Fri, 09/02/2011 - 15:33 | 1627528 pupton
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Naw man, what we need is a swimming pool filled with sharks that have frikken lasers on their heads!  Or at least ill-tempered sea bass...

Fri, 09/02/2011 - 20:15 | 1628575 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Screw the rope and ammo!

There's certainly no sense in wasting good ammo on them; besides, a firing squad would be far too dignified for such vermin. However, don't be too hasty in your dismissal of the virtues of a strong, stout rope.

Too much work and not as fun as a guillotine!  :)

The products of perhaps a dozen such dispatches might, depending on your taste in decor, be used ornamentally (see below). Even that number will leave an unpleasant mess to clean up. The reptilian ichor oozing from their former dewlaps is bound to raise an unbearable stench. Their remains will have to be disposed of before their internal rot breaks through to the surface. This is why, over the long term, the method which saves the most work employs a rope and scaffold.

Imagine the lovely collection of heads from banksters, politicians, hollywood celebrities and politicians you could have hanging on the welcome sign to your home town!

The traditional edge-of-town welcome in this vein calls for the heads to be placed on pikes. Sometimes the old ways are the best.


Fri, 09/02/2011 - 14:49 | 1627364 James
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Here's a list of banks recieving Tarp money.

My banks on it.

Fri, 09/02/2011 - 14:50 | 1627365 GiantWang
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Guillotines . . . .

I like the idea of having a list of people to publicly execute . . . .  Who is in charge of compiling that?

Any takers on your Ukranian babe friend?

Fri, 09/02/2011 - 14:53 | 1627378 Azannoth
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Honestly people stop dreaming those scumbags will be better protected than presidents, the best revenge you can take on them is to crash their Fiat World and return to Freedom and Sound money, it would be good to hang a few of them but don't count on it

Fri, 09/02/2011 - 15:45 | 1627566 goldfish1
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Yet these fukkers need electrians and satellite companies and grocery delivery people.

Fri, 09/02/2011 - 17:12 | 1627967 my puppy for prez
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Nope, they don't!  They already have their bug-out bags packed, their helicopters waiting, and years and years of food, water, medicine, and such ready and waiting at their swanky underground reinforced luxury bunkers!  You should check out this sometime:  Ixquick (don't google) D.U.M.B.  This will show you what they have been doing with our tax dollars.  The whole thing really is very creepy!  Ask yourself:  Who will be admitted to these?  

Fri, 09/02/2011 - 18:47 | 1628357 aerojet
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I bet you that most do not have any of those things.  A few of the big fuckers like Cheney probably, but not most of the banksters.  They didn't plan ahead in the monetary world, the certainly can't do it in the real world, either.

Sat, 09/03/2011 - 00:40 | 1628953 Doña K
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Those who know what the've done already have yachts registered in offshore corporations, big enough to be perpetual travelers and lots of physical PM's to last them 10 lifetimes. Don't go looking underground. Too claustrophobic for these guys. they prefer the smell of sea iodine and they are into coke and whores.

Their cruising grounds are St. Barts, Caymans etc. Same cruising grounds as the old pirates.  

Sat, 09/03/2011 - 15:00 | 1629797 Marco
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They might own more paper ... but they also own more gold, they also own more land, more power companies, more water, more mines, more of everything. Their fiat world is designed to crash ... after it has enabled them to buy as much of the real world as possible.


Anarcho capitalism is their end game ... it's a fine system when you own everything.

Fri, 09/02/2011 - 14:37 | 1627330 Azannoth
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Yes but except for a few known names, no banker has a tatto on his forehead with 'banker' on it

Of course you could simply go after the jews (they are easier to spot) that would pretty much cover 80% of the banker elite

Fri, 09/02/2011 - 14:52 | 1627374 GiantWang
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That's just stupid.  The one thing I hate about ZH is the anti-semetism in the comments.  How about just wiping out anyone with a huge estate from the mid-Atlantic north and then certain pockets of major cities . . . the people who clearly have the money?

Fri, 09/02/2011 - 14:54 | 1627383 Azannoth
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"Truth is called hate buy those that hate the truth"

Fri, 09/02/2011 - 14:57 | 1627394 tickhound
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"buy those that hate the truth"

Isn't that what we do now?

Fri, 09/02/2011 - 15:02 | 1627404 Azannoth
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Look if the jews come clean about 'the holocaust' WW1, WW2, JFK, 9/11, FED and 1000 other things they have been implicated in I am willing to forgive them, now what are the chances of that ?

If the jews admited to even 1% of what has been their 'mastermind plan' they sign their own deathwarrant

Fri, 09/02/2011 - 15:08 | 1627440 john39
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to be more accurate, its really the zionists behind all this.  Not all Jews are zionists.... and not all zionists are jews.  Dick Cheney for example.  What gets fairly tricky is that many of Ashkenazi (aka Jewish) descent are hidden among the population.  Examples include Obama (mother's family), the bushes, the Saudi royal family... 

Fri, 09/02/2011 - 15:16 | 1627463 Azannoth
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Cut off the Root and the Branches will die, you can't just cut off a Hydras head it will just grow 2 more

Fri, 09/02/2011 - 15:26 | 1627506 john39
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silly me, forget to add European royalty to the list of infiltrators...

Fri, 09/02/2011 - 16:15 | 1627690 whstlblwr
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I feel sorry for people in your life.

Fri, 09/02/2011 - 15:26 | 1627504 James
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And Askenazis are not semites.

Fri, 09/02/2011 - 15:25 | 1627501 john39
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defamation, the full movie:

good stuff, exposes this game that is played using the "antisemitism" label. 


Fri, 09/02/2011 - 15:28 | 1627514 Azannoth
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Racist(anitsemitic) comments on internet could become illegal

Fri, 09/02/2011 - 15:53 | 1627600 john39
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already is in parts of europe.  how very orwellian.   Holocost denial is a fucking crime, and truth is no defense.  There is a lawyer who went to jail in Germany because she tried to argue truth defending her client from holocost denial claims...   maybe its just me... but if you need to make something illegal to even question, its a pretty good tell that its probably a pack of lies.

one example here:

next it will be a crime to question global warming, because everyone knows for a fact that it cannot be denied.

Fri, 09/02/2011 - 16:08 | 1627665 whstlblwr
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You're a fucking idiot, so my wife's grandmother tattooed her own arm? Take your medication.

Fri, 09/02/2011 - 16:31 | 1627774 john39
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where there is smoke, there is fire:

with so many obvious lies swirling around the holocost (TM), seems appropriate to question.  there is a big difference between slave labor camps (which by the way contained people of many different ethnicities, polical backgrounds etc) and death camps.  but I understand how problematic the truth can be.  so lets just out law it and scream hysterically at anyone who dares question whether we are being force fed propaganda.


Fri, 09/02/2011 - 17:23 | 1628045 Lndmvr
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3 days before liberation my 1st mother in law was marched to a pit and shot in the head with all the others, army combed through finding the ones still living. Something deffinitely went on.

Fri, 09/02/2011 - 16:09 | 1627669 whstlblwr
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moved, reply stacking doesn't make sense.

Fri, 09/02/2011 - 16:57 | 1627898 John Rotten
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"It's A Trick, We Always Use It" (calling people "anti-Sematic")

Fri, 09/02/2011 - 17:57 | 1628213 Sledge
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Rabbi Wiess talks about how Zionists stole the face of Judaism and turned it into nationalism!

Fri, 09/02/2011 - 16:06 | 1627657 whstlblwr
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Yes, say welcome to stupid fucktards of ZH. When people roll eyes at this blog usually about these paranoid fucktards who think Jew is out to get him. Or Jew control world. I know all Jews smarter than them, that's for sure.

Fri, 09/02/2011 - 19:07 | 1628404 whstlblwr
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Thanks, now know at least four fucktards, raise your hand. Don't give address, or Jew will come raid your scaredy little bunker.

Fri, 09/02/2011 - 20:39 | 1628613 mcguire
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antisemitism bugs me too.  it is misguided, dangerous, and built on hate.. and nothing good can come from hate.  the true culprit lies elsewhere.. 

Fri, 09/02/2011 - 22:19 | 1628747 slewie the pi-rat
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many people who see the real dangers of zionism and the political dimensions of this "ism" in the nuclear-armed state or nation of "Is_ra_el" are LABELLED "anti-semitic" by the zionists as a form of "protection" from others' political speech which cannot allowed to be free to speak truth to power according to conscience, wisdom, and insight.  or even rascally bullshit

so, b/c they don't like zionism, and its handmaiden murderous intel agency mos_sad which is as well ensconced in our goobermint as in is_ra_el's (don't get me started, L0L!), they are some kinda ignorant racists and bigots, misguided, dangerous and based on nothing but hate

hey!!!  that's exactly what a zionist wld say!  what a fuking surprise! 

Fri, 09/02/2011 - 16:59 | 1627907 John Rotten
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Your welcome to not read the comments or browse away from the site.  Does someone have a gun to your head?

Fri, 09/02/2011 - 19:26 | 1628397 whstlblwr
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These guys looking for scapegoat because they need to blame. Looking for evil, look at self.

And jews who come to site shouldn't just ignore these ugly idiots who sit at their computer and jerk off all day. Because I'll never forget something my wife's relative told me. They thought they were German first, didn't even think of self as Jew, didn't go to synagogue, didn't practice Judaism, so they ignore anti-semites, thinking just fringe idiots.

If you Jew, don't ignore this bullshit that probably some oilman who want to deflect blame.

Fri, 09/02/2011 - 20:03 | 1628542 john39
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we should always have an eye out for fascism, it turns up in the oddest places:

Fri, 09/02/2011 - 16:10 | 1627673 Jumbotron
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It's also easy to spot in-bred, pig fucking Nazi's like you.  I'm no Jew, but I'm just saying.

Fri, 09/02/2011 - 16:37 | 1627801 Azannoth
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I gave you Thumbs up, because I like your honesty, saying and thinking whatever you like(even if other don't like it) is(should be) a human right

Sun, 09/04/2011 - 09:27 | 1631202 BigJim
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...Of course you could simply go after the jews (they are easier to spot) that would pretty much cover 80% of the banker elite...

Well, 80% of bankers might be Jews (do you have any proof of that statistic, BTW?) But the vast majority of Jews are definitely not bankers... so going after the Jews in general would mean persecuting a lot of people who had nothing to do with the problem in the first place. Doesn't that strike you as completely unjust? Or would you be happy to see all your family's heads on pikes because (say) a distant cousin murdered someone?

Besides - most bankers don't actually understand the ramifications of what they do. They're not the original founders of The Fed; they've been spoon-fed Keynesian nonsense throughout their lives and believe it; they genuinely consider their job to be essential to the smooth running of a modern economy. And indeed, there's nothing wrong with banking per se; it's our current system of fiat + FRB that's the problem.

Education, education, education... if we overthrew the current system now, our fellow sheep would just re-erect it all tomorrow.

Fri, 09/02/2011 - 15:03 | 1627413 adeptus
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You're right, but you've also missed the point of this article.

Fri, 09/02/2011 - 13:59 | 1627194 Shell Game
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Nicely minted, Brandon, thank you.

Fri, 09/02/2011 - 14:09 | 1627232 redcorona
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Wishful thinking though.  White men are fine with running into machine gun fire.  But don't ask them to engage in anything that is politically incorrect - like reality. 

Fri, 09/02/2011 - 14:13 | 1627247 Shell Game
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A Freeman IS politically incorrect!

Fri, 09/02/2011 - 14:42 | 1627336 Azannoth
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Nice statement, like it

People take pride in dying for vain but lofty ideas, yet will not utter the slightest sound when injustice is done to them and  their families as long as it's 'socialy acceptable'

Fri, 09/02/2011 - 14:00 | 1627203 MassDecep
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as for #6, there is a time for quiet action, and a time for profound action. Now is the quiet action time. Buy ammo for your tactical guns, and lots of PM = quiet action. Store up on food, wheat for bread and so on = quiet action. Get ready folks, its gonna be fun

Fri, 09/02/2011 - 14:03 | 1627210 Cognitive Dissonance
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It all begins within.

Fri, 09/02/2011 - 14:44 | 1627347 Azannoth
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That is the 1s step, but then you have to fight get your hands dirty and that comes much harder

Fri, 09/02/2011 - 16:11 | 1627688 chumbawamba
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Indeed.  And then you learn the Law:

I am Chumbawamba.

Mon, 09/05/2011 - 21:50 | 1636781 mahalopamala
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So many points similar to your brilliant writing CD. :)


Fri, 09/02/2011 - 14:05 | 1627217 Think for yourself
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If you don't conquer yourself first - that is, if you don't appropriate conscious control for yourself over the conditionnings that drive you - how could you hope to taste freedom? 

It is better to conquer yourself
Than to win a thousand battles.
Then the victory is yours.
It cannot be taken from you,
Not by angels or by demons,
Heaven or hell.

~ Buddha

Fri, 09/02/2011 - 15:01 | 1627405 Wynn
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Everyone has the ability to Understand as Buddha did. Yet no one does it. They see separation, where there is none. They see imperfections, where there are none. They seek freedom, when they are already free.

Fri, 09/02/2011 - 15:14 | 1627467 Undecided
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New world religion buddha, kabala, Opera etc, they want everyone to be their own gods.

Don't be fooled.


Fri, 09/02/2011 - 17:00 | 1627893 Use of Weapons
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"New world religion" - Buddhism? Are you serious? Probably the best thing you can do to your noggin is get on board with those waves -

Neural Buddists rock - even if you wish to ditch some aspects of it, reformatting your mind is never a bad thing [or is that defragging? Cyberpunk references are getting a bit long in the tooth]

Ugh. Just bothered with your link: if you think that Jesus wasn't prepping those compassion waves, and ability to enhance those around him, wtf? Or are you the kind that denies things like picking up the Samaritan, or kicking over tables? [or, denying the logos].


Btw - I have a large feeling that this is going to get messy, and I refuse to debate with a monotheist who cannot think.

Fri, 09/02/2011 - 17:31 | 1628088 Undecided
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Don't have to argue just debate. Of course we are to be kind good people helping each other have you read the bible?

My argument is all these New World religions take jesus out of the equation and teach only self fulfilment and that we are all our own gods.

See #17 in the link below.

If you want to get into brain waves you should look up a documentary called the mystery of Water can be found on Youtube also Scaler energy and natural frequencies discovered by Nicola Tesla.


Fri, 09/02/2011 - 17:55 | 1628186 tip e. canoe
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und, don't mean to butt in, but just so you know, buddhism is older than christianity.

have you read the gospel of Thomas?

Fri, 09/02/2011 - 17:56 | 1628206 Undecided
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So is Peganism :)

Fri, 09/02/2011 - 18:02 | 1628231 tip e. canoe
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got no beef with paganism amigo.  nor buddhism nor christianity.   only beef with those who believe that their beliefs are superior to others.

Jesus said, "If your leaders say to you, 'Look, the (Father's) kingdom is in the sky,' then the birds of the sky will precede you. If they say to you, 'It is in the sea,' then the fish will precede you. Rather, the (Father's) kingdom is within you and it is outside you.

When you know yourselves, then you will be known, and you will understand that you are children of the living Father. But if you do not know yourselves, then you live in poverty, and you are the poverty."

Fri, 09/02/2011 - 19:03 | 1628396 Undecided
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Absolutly agree, I have no beef with Buddhism, Caltholics or any other religion, to one his own.  The problem is darwinism and Evolution and the higher ups such as the papacy.  I love catholics for their beliefs  in god and jesus etc etc, i don't like the papacy and what they represent and the way they are changing religion.  If you read the good book as an individual you understand what i am saying.  Buddhism teaches some good things don't get me wrong, and some that i totaly disagree with.

I believe in teaching the word and spreading the word as the bible states and let those who choose to believe it do so on their own.

Unfortunatly, as an example the Papacy has done how many crusaids? I guess you can put it in there with government and banks :)

Fri, 09/02/2011 - 18:01 | 1628227 Undecided
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So Is Peganism :)


In regards to the gospel of Thomas and all the new scriptures all of a sudden reappearing no thanks.

King James for me only thanks.

Fri, 09/02/2011 - 18:05 | 1628239 tip e. canoe
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ever wonder why they disappeared in the first place?   couldn't have had something to do with Kings & Popes & Cardinals (oh my!), now would it?

Fri, 09/02/2011 - 19:18 | 1628431 Undecided
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Just one example:

Not on your life. Though we had fragments of it earlier, a complete copy of the so-called Gospel of Thomas was discovered in 1945. Once scholars had a copy of the whole thing, it was possible to see it for what it was: yet another gnostic-influenced "gospel" written in the second or third century, long after the canonical gospels were penned.

The Gospel of Thomas presents itself as a collection of sayings of Christ as written by Thomas the apostle. A few of these sayings are genuine because they were taken from the canonical Gospels. Others combine bits of things said in the true gospels. And still others are wholly made up, not only lacking any basis in the gospels but also contradicting things taught in them.

Consider, for example, the final saying Thomas contains: "Simon Peter said to them, ‘Make Mary leave us, for females don’t deserve life.’ Jesus said, ‘Look, I will guide her to make her male, so that she too may become a living spirit resembling you males. For every female who makes herself male will enter the kingdom of heaven’" (Thomas 114).

This is just wacky. Jesus was a great respecter of women as women (i.e., without them having to become like men). After all, as the Creator, he himself had "made them male and female" (Mt 19:4). And so whether one is a man or a woman makes no difference in salvation. As St. Paul said, "There is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus" (Gal 3:28).

The so-called Gospel of Thomas is a fake. It was written between one and two centuries after the apostle Thomas’s death. It contains some authentic sayings of Jesus because it is partially based on the canonical Gospels. It contains a bunch of stuff that is silly. It wasn’t written under divine inspiration. It doesn’t belong in the Bible.

Hollywood has decided to use this literary curiosity as the latest tool to portray the Catholic Church as sinister, conspiracy-ridden, and oppressive and, by extension, to portray all of Christianity in a negative light. The plot of the movie Stigmata has nothing to do with how the Gospel of Thomas was actually discovered.

I must concur with film critic Roger Ebert’s assessment:

Stigmata is possibly the funniest movie ever made about Catholicism—from a theological point of view. . . . The film, a storehouse of absurd theology, has the gall to end with one of those "factual" title cards, in which we learn that the "Gospel of St. Thomas," said to be in Christ’s words, was denounced by the Vatican in 1945 as a "heresy." That doesn’t mean it wouldn’t be out in paperback if there were a market for it. It does mean the filmmakers have a shaky understanding of the difference between a heresy and a fake.


Fri, 09/02/2011 - 23:06 | 1628834 tip e. canoe
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- perhaps fake, but then one could argue that about the entire Book.   you say neether, she says neither.   doesn't really matter to me, as the whole point of mythology is to suspend disbelief (i.e. shut down the logical functions of the brain), yes?

- "For every female who makes herself male will enter the kingdom of heaven"   maybe this line should considered metaphorically, not literally?   (i.e. a female embodies the masculine spirit)   makes sense if so, sounds very Tantric actually which lines up with the whole story about christianity having ancient Indian roots.    but then, if so, in order for a male to enter, he would have make himself female (i.e. embodies the feminine spirit).    oooohh, can't have that can we?

- never saw Stigmata (weened myself off Hollywood years ago) and much preferred Gene Siskel as a tyke.  but would think that these 2 flicks might be more in line with the overall topic:

F is for Fake

The Holy Mountain

with that said, i respect your choice of path as long as you respect mine, whether it's 'fake' to either or both of us or not.

Sat, 09/03/2011 - 01:03 | 1628978 slewie the pi-rat
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why do you make your respect of his path conditional?  why give him control of what you do there?  what if he lies to you?  what if he's lying to himself?  what if you are?

if you were a just a tad freer, maybe, you wouldn't end up in a freaking trap of your own making, my friend!

obviously he does not understand the esoteric symbolism in this "gospel" which is almost completely in harmony with many alchemical "treatises" ergo "psychological" in the "gnostic" sense. 

whether it is in harmony with the biblical teachings is another question.  the exoteric question of "what jesus taught about women" and the esoteric question of the coniunctio oppositorum ot the heiros gamos may not be compatible when view together from certain reference frames, or all such frames.  theology is what the church says is theology.  there is no standard outside the church (tillich).  real.

he is correct thologically;  you are correct esoterically;  he doesn't "respect" you;  rilly!; so you aren't gonna "respect" him, either?

you're not some kid in a gang, are you?

Sat, 09/03/2011 - 01:37 | 1629009 slewie the pi-rat
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oh!  you mentioned buddhism;  some thoeolgians have called john's gospel:  "the buddhist gospel"

  • mark: the "primitive" story
  • matthew:  the "jewish" version
  • luke:  the "greek" edition

imo, one of the most powerful parts of the NT is in one of john's "letters" where he says something kinda like:  "look!  i knew him!"

scholars go ape-shit over "john" b/c they can't "agree" on a date for the gospel, since "no way this theology was present in The Early Church b4 125 'AD' and nobody lives that long!"

so then compare the theology of the letters to the gospel, and then there are the really fun Q's like:  is this the same guy?  was this dude the "beloved disciple"?  is this the same guy who got exiled to patmos and hallucinated the endgame of the greatest poker tournament in the universe?  GAHHGHHAGHAAHHH!!!  what's going on here?  amen





Sat, 09/03/2011 - 01:56 | 1629029 Undecided
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I suggest you watch some of these videoss

not that i agree with all but he makes a lot of good points, and i am gathering you understand of what i mean.

Sat, 09/03/2011 - 03:51 | 1629123 slewie the pi-rat
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well, thank you.  i visited the site and tried to see who "he" is who "makes a lot of good points," but don't see it, even in the "about us".  perhaps the owner of the site or a person in the videos?

i didn't watch any videos but i looked at some "comments" on them and found these about "freedom" here: Comments - 939-The Jesuits And The Counter Reformation Part II - Amazing Discoveries TV   (paste)  Cherubaby (13 months ago)


"How is the Catholic Church responsible for things such as Out-of-the-Body experiences? If I don't like a TV program I turn it off. If I don't like a lecture I walk out. Every person has a BRAIN and FREE WILL. People do these things because they WANT TO, nobody is holding a gun to their head."<<>> who received this response (90 days later):  <<>> eternalscholar (10 months ago) <<>> "This comment is to cherubaby, some time soon someone may hold a gun to your head, thank God today we have the freedome to even see these lectures, much less comment on them. As for Atlanta, God has this church as in time past in the palm of His hands. The ones with all of our names written upon.God Bless you AD Team." <<>> . i'm such a wiseacre that i have fun combining theology w/ secularism and seeing the effects on both "believers" and "non-believers"
  • the universe loves you
  • the universe will care for you and meet your needs;  trust it
  • if you believe the universe is designed to "save" you and give you eternal life, it will do so
  • the universe is exactly like a loving parent
  • so vast (s)he sees all Time, holds everything at once, and actually knows you in your absolute uniqueness
pretty weird, huh? 
Sat, 09/03/2011 - 13:28 | 1629647 Undecided
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Just Two videos for you to watch that i will recommend.  Since it seems you don't like to listen to what you don't like to hear like a child being told to go study and putting his fingers in his ears.  As to the comment you posted above if we didn't like one comment on zerohedge would i stop reading it?  Keep in mind the Devil can only copy, but can not create.

Have a good weekend.

Fri, 09/02/2011 - 18:20 | 1628288 Use of Weapons
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#1 I've read the Bible, and most other works of religion - have you? If the answer is 'no', please read some.

#2 Tesla was a scientist - I posted links to science. It is actually far more interesting and awe inspiring than mind-junk. Zero point energy is not a new meme, and your link doesn't sell it well - I much prefer the twelve balls on 11/11/11 as a generative meme [crystalline consciousness] - heck, I did a post on it for amusement, with ZH being used by gematria

#3 You assume with your reference to #17 of the Dalai Lama that I'm a) human, b) not welcoming the NWO and c) not hiding my love for all under faux cynicism and economics to engage with the sharks around here. To my knowledge, at least one of those is false. Probably two. Definitely three.




Fri, 09/02/2011 - 19:10 | 1628412 Undecided
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Actually i love to study religion, to all his own, my problem is with the Ecumenical movement.

In regards to tesla you are right that was a weak link, best i could do on a short notice at work. If only J.P Morgan had funded his last Project ;)

Sat, 09/03/2011 - 00:32 | 1628943 slewie the pi-rat
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wow!  gematria....i wonder what that is....

hey!  i sure hope ya had fun!

Sat, 09/03/2011 - 01:46 | 1629020 Undecided
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Gematria intersting word, but far from the truth, if you wish to know my faith i am of christian orthodoxy and you need not call me of a childish jew.  We have been taught well of those who speak in a fourth tung and can see through your ways as i am sure the sun will rise the next day.


Sat, 09/03/2011 - 04:28 | 1629149 slewie the pi-rat
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well, thank you for your response, "Undecided"...

...english is not your first language, is it?  i answered one of your posts, above, earlier, after i looked at the website

gematria is a kind of numerology, based on words, which shows "patterns" which seem to be "consciously embedded" in certain documents and which give these documents different "meanings" from the words, themselves~~~like a mathematical code which is "revealed" by assigning numeric symbols to the "alpha-beta-ical" symbols~~~the letters, or in the hebrew alphabet, the aleph, beth,...and so on.  also used in the greek new testament, and, as "use_0_weapons" indicates, english, too! 

again, gematria indicates the "hidden" as opposed to the "orthodox" or that which is taught publicly, for everyone, strictly according to a catechism, creed, covenant, or some other theological standard.  in the early jewish christain church and while paul was preaching to the gentiles/greeks, there were public meetings and worship and sermons.  but not everyone was allowed to join the church.  those who were selected (chosen) were taught "christianity" by the church "elders and deacons" who had been "ordained" to do the teaching, and the people  who were "learning" were called "catecumenae"

orthodoxy is about the form of the religion which allows it to exist in earthly time, for centuries, or even millenia.  it is a very strong exoskeleton, almost like a suit of armor which "protects" and yet is part of "what is inside"

it is necessary

every church considers itself "orthodox";  it would hafta be a pretty "advanced theology" to say:  we are in error!  trust us!

Fri, 09/02/2011 - 15:51 | 1627591 goldfish1
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Ho'oponopono. Take responsibility for creating your reality and everything in it.

Sat, 09/03/2011 - 00:45 | 1628957 slewie the pi-rat
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well that's maybe the gereral idea, here, and it sure sounds good, too!  however, perhaps the word "inner" is the key, and ooops!  you don't use it!

w/out the inner work, we end up w/ fascists and psychopaths taking "total responsibility for creating (their) reality and everything in it"

the idea you represent as ho'oponopono includes self-examination, or there would be no reconciliation, commonality, atonement, forgiveness

so, you're not explaining ho'oponopono fully, or maybe you don't know what the fuk you're talking about.  i hope it's the former.  don't you?

Mon, 09/05/2011 - 18:26 | 1636055 goldfish1
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Of course inner as well as outer. Of course this involves self-responsibility.

Explaining Ho'oponopono fully? I'm a novice.

maybe you don't know what the fuk you're talking about.  My grasp of it makes sense to me. Merely sharing.

Fri, 09/02/2011 - 14:05 | 1627224 False Capital
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Fuck it. To paraphrase Cheeky Bastard, just keep stacking and we'll break out of this asylum eventually.

Fri, 09/02/2011 - 14:06 | 1627225 Payable on Death
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Moral hazard, did you say? "Me being me."

Fri, 09/02/2011 - 15:45 | 1627553 Payable on Death
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I got junked!? Anonymously. Do you mean to defend Mr. Brooks? If so, make your case, PUNK.

Be sure to address this part: "That's what she's there for [to pay my rent, in exchange for my "conversation", for me "being me", and "for me handling my business, and gettin' goin'"]".

Fri, 09/02/2011 - 14:08 | 1627230 proLiberty
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We cannot have inner freedom without outter freedom.  We cannot have outter freedom when people refuse to grant to others the same rights they demand for themselves.  And we cannot have freedom when we are being subjeccted to socialism which is the fraudulent offer to live at the expense of others.  When government is involved, it attempts to coerce each citizen into this fraudulent economic system.  It may cost you your life to peacefully decline. 

For example, right here, right now in the land of the free, it will cost you your Social Security benefits for life to decline to enroll in Medicare.


Fri, 09/02/2011 - 14:22 | 1627277 Think for yourself
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Of couse you can have inner freedom without the outer.

You are free at any time to take yourself over, so to speak, and to refuse to let unconscious patterns drive you or to let external agents define you - given that you realize the way these processes actually effect you.

This is total internal freedom, regardless of external circumstances. The only way your environment can prevent you from claiming this freedom is through fluoride mass medication/zoloft mass prescription and the like, keeping you from noticing these external factors and how they control you.

Just don't let any external factor define you. 

Fri, 09/02/2011 - 14:24 | 1627287 jakethesnake76
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i am free , so was Jesus , Gandhi, Martin Luther King and millions of others, freedom has to start within it, can't be given to yo, you must take it and developer it within, and fight any who would destroy it, which is most around you..

Fri, 09/02/2011 - 14:08 | 1627231 narnia
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"the mark of the immature man is that he wants to die nobly for a cause while the mark of the mature man is that he wants to live humbly for one"-  Wilhelm Stekel

Fri, 09/02/2011 - 14:09 | 1627235 jmc8888
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It is important to not only free yourself, but also know what you are going to put into place once you achieve the possibility of installing something new.


Glass-Steagall and Ameican Credit System which enables the federal gov't to emit credit for wealth creating infrastructure projects in an overall science driver program to solve mans pressing needs.

But in order to do that you need congresmen and a president who will do just that.  Thus you must impeach, and throw out the bums to do that.  In doing that, the federal reserve and ALL MONETARIST schools of thought will be thrown to trash heap where they belong.

The hard part is getting it through dumbed down people who have been lied to their whole lives.  These peopel who regurgitate ideologies that are against them, and they somehow think these monetarist ideoligies are  for them, or even worse, think these ideologies are American.  They aren't.

No more anti-american, anti-human, .000001 percent serving MONETARIST dogmatic policies.  Or everything that comprises the ideologies of republican, democrat, and tea party.   By banksters, for banksters.  No more.


Starts with Glass-Steagall (the banksters and their fraud ends)


Fri, 09/02/2011 - 14:53 | 1627380 Imminent Collapse
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Step One:  Stop allowing politicians to be purchased.

Step Two:  Take control of the currency - no more private "Fed" to issue money out of thin air.

Step Three:  Require a balanced budget at the federal level - and maybe even start paying back the money already borrowed.

Step Four:  Require a playoff system for the college football national championship.

Everything else should fall into place after that.

Sun, 09/04/2011 - 09:42 | 1631218 BigJim
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Step Two:  Take control of the currency - no more private "Fed" to issue money out of thin air.

No, allowing the government to control currency is a bad idea, too. You're just swapping one set of thieves for another.

Fri, 09/02/2011 - 14:11 | 1627242 imaginalis
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Happily the peaceful live, giving up victory and defeat

Fri, 09/02/2011 - 14:12 | 1627244 entendance
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September 3rd General Assembly at Tompkins Square Park
The next meeting of the NYC General Assembly will be held this upcoming Saturday at the same time and location:
Saturday, September 3rd · 5:00pm - 8:00pm
Tompkins Square Park
7th St. and Avenue A
New York, NY

Fri, 09/02/2011 - 14:15 | 1627253 kito
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Do you pour money into personal vices like drugs, cigarettes, or beer?  Quit!


now, brandon, i support your efforts, i respect that you walk the talk by recently moving to western montana, but beer? you want me to give up my brooklyn brown ale?????? i dunnooo.....


Fri, 09/02/2011 - 14:29 | 1627298 caerus
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agreed...survival will be more fun with some booze and bud

Fri, 09/02/2011 - 14:38 | 1627335 topcallingtroll
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Bud is the word.

Fri, 09/02/2011 - 14:55 | 1627389 cossack55
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Glad you caught it. Bags of cheap tobacco and rolling papers will be wonderful barter items.  Stack it right next to the food and booze.

Fri, 09/02/2011 - 16:52 | 1627873 Use of Weapons
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I ditched alcohol, nicotine and caffeine [heavy usage rates, all of them] all in a single week, which was interesting. You will sweat buckets.


I went back to some of them, but at least I know I can - it is a very important lesson to teach yourself.

Fri, 09/02/2011 - 14:16 | 1627255 tradewithdave
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When the conversation turns to "Liberty" the world turns to the author of its current model... Isaiah Berlin's "Two Concepts of Liberty."  They have been quite successful in convincing many of us that Liberty comes in two forms "Freedom from" and "Freedom to" rather than true Freedom which is "Freedom with" (within ourselves and with our neighbor). 

What's amazing to me is that the current solution as proposed by Mervyn King's divorced currency model is to split money in half just like they split freedom in half.  You can read about their proposal all over the blog.  Just search for "divorce" or "Mervyn King" or "double coincidence of wants" or "currency." 

Dave Harrison



Sat, 09/03/2011 - 00:29 | 1628941 slewie the pi-rat
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always with the ad for the website.  never ok not to advertiZe when ever you visit.  this isn't the fuking dump, here, dave!

Fri, 09/02/2011 - 14:19 | 1627265 iDealMeat
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Native Americans had "inner freedom"..  How'd that turn out?


Fri, 09/02/2011 - 14:40 | 1627339's picture

Did they?

Fri, 09/02/2011 - 14:53 | 1627377 Seer
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Since there are still Native Americans I'd have to say that the book isn't closed yet.  I, for one, am hoping that they've retained enough dignity and culture (not the booze/casino trap that the White Man [thanks Reagan*!] dumped on them) was to rise again.

* The Reagan administration used the ruse of getting the Native Americans more economically independent by suckling up to cheating white guys jamming casino projects down their throats (of course, this also required a few greedy tribal leaders). (

Fri, 09/02/2011 - 14:55 | 1627386 Row Well Number 41
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200 years from now Free men and slaves alike will be long dead, but who and how will they be remembered, and what will they have left behind?


Fri, 09/02/2011 - 15:53 | 1627602 goldfish1
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Fri, 09/02/2011 - 15:12 | 1627457 Monedas
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In biological terms, the native Americans of the new world have flourished in the last 500 years ! Their numbers have grown from a scant 1,000,000 to 500,000,000 ! I wish my laboratory rat farm had done so well ! Monedas 2011 Comedy Perspectives for Myopic Socialists

Sat, 09/03/2011 - 04:06 | 1629140 AnAnonymous
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Sure. Even the most conservative estimates state an Indian population of 4M people at start of the US on what is now US territory (excluding Hawai and Alaska)

This 'boom' has to be compared by the way with other population booms to give perspective.

Fri, 09/02/2011 - 14:21 | 1627274 Enceladus
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There is always room for beer. Homebrew!

Fri, 09/02/2011 - 15:19 | 1627481 JohnG
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The first 5 gallons I ever brewed was better than anything I've had in the US.

Thre's more working in the closet downstairs.  Mead as well.

Fri, 09/02/2011 - 16:49 | 1627860 Use of Weapons
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Viking +1

Fri, 09/02/2011 - 14:27 | 1627297 TIMMAYYY
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fat chance buddy

fuck off to re fill and re light...

Fri, 09/02/2011 - 14:30 | 1627309 TIMMAYYY
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"I would like to become more of an activist, but isn’t it better to “keep a low profile”, and avoid retribution from the power elite…?"


nice to see we took that too heart...

Fri, 09/02/2011 - 14:33 | 1627317 JW n FL
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Vote with Bullets!!

Fri, 09/02/2011 - 15:18 | 1627479 BlackholeDivestment
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''Vote with Bullets!!'' LOL...

...uh JW, all you have to do to cast your vote and achieve victory is, shoot yourself in the head. Blam! ...the war is over boy. What are you trying to do, kill people before you die? lol. 

Fri, 09/02/2011 - 16:29 | 1627771 JW n FL
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what should we do?


march maybe?

camp out on wall street.. or more accurately try to camp out on wall street and have our skulls cracked by new yorks finest?

maybe paint some posters?

what is the answer?

talk about it?

do tell mr. fucking whinner! what would you like everyone to do?

maybe NOTHING!! that way it is still not your problem..

after 40 years of protesting and marching.. NOTHING has changed..

and maybe that is your point.. you dont want to have to do the work.. maybe you are part of the problem.. maybe that is why you dont like the idea of Voting with Bullets?


Fri, 09/02/2011 - 16:31 | 1627777 JW n FL
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Subject: Taking hostages in a hurricane?

Dear Friend,

The waters have just begun to recede in Vermont. New Jersey is still reeling. North Carolina is just starting to pick up the pieces. But Republican House Majority Leader Eric Cantor is already taking Hurricane Irene's victims hostage.

Truly, Mr. Cantor has no shame. It's outrageous to take advantage of the urgent needs of hurricane survivors in order to advance his radical crusade to cut Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security. But that's exactly what one of the top Republicans in Congressional leadership is doing with his refusal to allocate money to disaster relief unless Congress first offsets that money with cuts to vital government programs.

I just signed a petition telling Eric Cantor to release the hostages and stop blocking funds for urgently needed disaster relief. You should sign the petition too. Click below to take action.


Sat, 09/03/2011 - 00:57 | 1628961 BlackholeDivestment
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Stop working. Just stop. The Truth is not a choice, do not be deceived.

Drinking from Chairsatan's BTFD Cup of Fornication will not save ''the suicide host'' and working to help pull the trigger for the dead (by providing labor) sure as hell will not do anything but speed up the process of the host suicide. You know that JW. You are just pissed at witnessing the beast devouring the body (Lord of Hosts) of our Father in Christ without cause for reward (the meaning of life/love). You should be angry even as the beast destroys all host (suicides) so decieved as to perish.

When you are inspired to divest from the black hole you shall be moved, have no doubt ...even as Lot was moved from the ''moral hazard'' upto the last possible sliver of time, so shall the wounded heart(s) be healed in this last battle, when the revelation declares the Bride that is not sleeping. It's not a choice, the command of mercy requires agreement or the suicide is declared. You are not asleep JW. Far from it.

 Stop a suicide, do nothing! Stand fast and do no harm and spread the Word, if not the revelation in principle. The beast has already pulled the trigger, it has the prophetic strong delusion of the black hole in it's head. There is no stopping it's death, and at this point of time there sure as hell is no reason to waste a bullet on a delusional and self devouring dead zombie beast sealed to perish. Nobody is going to ''work'' a way for the dead beast to rise from the bottomless pit ...JW. If you stop working you buy time, that is all and that is enough at this point because that's all there is in the darkness of the black hole.

Watch! Every day that passes will confirm the prophetic reality upon this last generation. Things shall get ...much worse ...more often ...and happen sooner. Why? ...because the beast is hard at work for ''nothing''. It is written. the risen mercy of our Father in Christ fear not JW ...Bitchez.

Fri, 09/02/2011 - 14:33 | 1627318 N57Mike
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.... "we are in this world but not of it. We are in truth spiritual beings, having a temporary physical existence in this material world, (and we are not physical beings having occasional spiritual experiences)."

Remember...... religion is just the map, the world of spirit is the destination.

Fri, 09/02/2011 - 14:41 | 1627341 Caviar Emptor
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Deep, deep thoughts:


You say you want a revolution
Well, you know
We all want to change the world
You tell me that it's evolution
Well, you know
We all want to change the world
But when you talk about destruction
Don't you know that you can count me out

You say you got a real solution
Well, you know
We'd all love to see the plan
You ask me for a contribution
Well, you know
We're doing what we can
But when you want money
for people with minds that hate
All I can tell is brother you have to wait

Fri, 09/02/2011 - 14:43 | 1627343 topcallingtroll
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>Interesting that an agnostic like me is thinking of moving my family and arsenal to the American Redoubt states.

However they are close enough to libertarians to suit my tastes. I will be right there with them in the midst of the rebellion.

Surely as a quid pro quo they can ignore a couple of marijuana plants on my 109 acres.

Fri, 09/02/2011 - 14:45 | 1627351 TIMMAYYY
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ill have what hes having...

Fri, 09/02/2011 - 14:55 | 1627388 GiantWang
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Idaho, Bitchez!

Fri, 09/02/2011 - 15:02 | 1627411 James
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Be careful of Idaho.

Nasty laws.

Fri, 09/02/2011 - 14:58 | 1627396 DCFusor
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Already there myself.  It's nice.  Why wait?

Fri, 09/02/2011 - 15:00 | 1627402 James
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Montana is a medical marijuana state.

I had a card when in California.

If you can fog a mirror you can get a card.

Fri, 09/02/2011 - 14:52 | 1627373 sidkof
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The first butcher is learning his trade and has to sharpen his knife every day, \.\. However, these limitations do not prevent or cause inner freedom. ... jogos de motos

Fri, 09/02/2011 - 22:31 | 1628787 slewie the pi-rat
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this is true.  the apprentice is not denied inner freedom by his valid work.  his  inner freedom is thus prevented/caused by different factors.  such as...?  or, didn't you get to that, yet?

Fri, 09/02/2011 - 14:58 | 1627395 BlackholeDivestment
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In my opinion, Zero Hedge etc... is being active in getting out the Truth and warning etc...

Rule number one, tell people about Fight Club. Aaah haaa haa ...Bitchez.


Fri, 09/02/2011 - 15:02 | 1627410 High Plains Drifter
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after a hundred years of the "century of self" ,  it is my contention that amerikans will never do anything about anything. they are divided. they are confused. they are distracted. they are entertained and mostly they are paid off by a few shekels from their government checks. i used to maintain a bit of hope on this matter, but alas, it has now fallen  by the wayside. i can say this. there are many who at one time, thought amerikans would eventually do something but they too now , have given up , and now they prepare for their own survival and don't pay much attention to trying to wake up other people. it is a sad end to this place. 

Fri, 09/02/2011 - 15:07 | 1627428 Azannoth
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Reality is not a Comicbook, the 'bad guys' win and even more so

Fri, 09/02/2011 - 18:14 | 1628259 Sledge
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Never give up! Vote for Ron Paul in 2012! Also check out Get Out Of Our House. Good luck with your apathy spreading propaganda program HPD!!!

Sat, 09/03/2011 - 00:34 | 1628948 RockyRacoon
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The truth of the Drifter's comment is right here in these comments.  No cohesion, no plans but the ultra-personal agendas of each of the comments.   Constant conflict, little agreement.   There ya have it.

Sat, 09/03/2011 - 05:13 | 1629158 slewie the pi-rat
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yep, but there may be a "flaw" in that there is only "they" in HPD's post.  no "i".  not in yours, either, RR.  some here are trying to do what the writer is pointing toward, i think:  discuss issues of personal inner freedom, or what that means to them. 

we're all human, yet we're all unique.  so each inner aspect/problem/journey is unique.  but, there may also be "type" where we might say:  a "bossy" person has different issues and 'answers' from a "fear-based" person or an "envy-based personality" or a "glutton" or a "stingy miser type" or an "anger-based personality"

in this journey, it seems to me that those who develop an understanding of themselves based on type may progress more rapidly at times.  let me hypothesize:  you & HPD may be close in type.  you are knowledgable and balanced.  also, like everybody, a bit lazy when it comes to gaining self-knowledge.  everybody has an excuse;  maybe yours is a kind of self-complacency.  we all have defense mechanisms, one of the most famous of which is projection.  so, you're really not into this b/c it really is a big hassle and things really aren't that bad anyhow.  so, there is a little denial that this applies to you guys, too (!) and a little projection that the real "constant conflict" is "out there" so you don't hafta do anything abt it today, either.

now, please don't feel "picked on here, b/c i think everyone can benefit from doing some "hypotheticals" about him/ her self, ok?  a person who is, say, a "planner" may have different issues.  he may be a generalist in a world of specialists, and so on...

a "boss" type may not respect anyone who is too fuking weak to push back, but (s)he will not tend to "push back" against the personal "inner boss" (who could have known?)

there are many different systems of type:  astrology,  e.g.  the stars, your place in the universe when you enter this life, effect who you are and how you do, see, and approach things, and so on.  one person is satunalic, another mercurial, slewie is from venus, his gf is from mars, tyler is from unranus,~~~whatever


Sat, 09/03/2011 - 09:55 | 1629344 RockyRacoon
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Thank you for your reasonable response, Slewie.   You are right on many counts.  At my age I have resolved many of the "issues" which still plague many poor souls.   The article advocates stepping out and "going public" with defiance and force.  I have always been a very good follower for a cause of my choosing, but lack qualities of leadership that are required to advance said cause.   My best work is done at the edges -- and there I am very effective.   If you get my meaning, which I'm sure you do.

Sat, 09/03/2011 - 01:28 | 1628996 Bolweevil
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Fri, 09/02/2011 - 15:08 | 1627441 Segestan
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<<<<<< "Yes, the world must change, and soon, if our principles are to survive" >>>>>>    Can you tell me what planet you're speaking of, because it sure as hell can't be earth?

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