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Thu, 09/15/2011 - 16:25 | 1674582 bread n circuses
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Ug.   How 'bout some proof reading?

I can overlook grammar and punctuation errors in comments but several instances in an entire article make it difficult to follow.

Thu, 09/15/2011 - 16:31 | 1674591 Pladizow
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If there was only ONE way to stop America from invading your country, killing your people and stealing your natural resources, while claiming its all for the purpose of promoting democracy - would'nt you do it?

Furthermore "Democracy" will help with the demise of America - it's 51% of the people telling the other 49% what to do, i.e, two wolves and a sheep deciding what's for dinner.

No where in the constitution or the bill of rights is the word democracy mentioned. America was established as a Republic - This is where you give the sheep from above a gun.

Thu, 09/15/2011 - 16:45 | 1674659 skohiu
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+1.  Iran should put all its gold reserves next to Bushehr as well.....radioactive gold, come and get it!

Thu, 09/15/2011 - 17:38 | 1674939 Lord Welligton
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Iran should sell all its gold now.

and promise to keep it safe.

In Iran.

Thu, 09/15/2011 - 18:11 | 1675104 AldousHuxley
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Iran cannot sell all of its gold because their real wealth is in the form of "black gold"

 

Iran is just a pawn to Russia/China. Russia supplied technology and know how.  Russia is just protecting their own colony with a nuclear capability.

 

This is not for civilian benefit. Why would oil rich country need a nuclear power? To get the spent fuel rods for nukes. Why do they need nukes? To defend Iranian bourse from American petrodollar with strong arming by American "liberation" army. Why does America need Iran's oil? American banksters need real assets to support fiat dollars. Why does America need real assets to support the dollar? Banksters gambled away decades of productivity and you can only enslave the population so much.

Thu, 09/15/2011 - 18:22 | 1675142 Spirit Of Truth
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You all probably have no idea what's coming.  Iran is but a cog in the wheel of what's been a long-term setup to annihilate Israel.  Don't know if civilization will make it through October at this point:

http://thespiritoftruth.blogspot.com/2011/09/autumn-panic-update-will-ci...

Thu, 09/15/2011 - 20:03 | 1675518 bid the soldier...
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When you say 'long term set up' do you mean since before the current era?

Thu, 09/15/2011 - 20:47 | 1675692 CompassionateFascist
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Sure. The ZOG is plotting to annihilate the ZOG. If only.

Thu, 09/15/2011 - 23:32 | 1676071 i-dog
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You're spot on, SpiritOfTruth, and the number of down-arrows shows how many here indeed have no idea of the staged progression. They see each move only in isolation, and in the light of current propaganda, while the Luciferians work to century-long plans (and control the propaganda!).

Thu, 09/15/2011 - 23:55 | 1676103 BigDuke6
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i'd like you to educate us on these luciferians, do they fight the jedi? tell me more.

anyway i thought about your points on the chinese the other day and i liked them.

i read this on AEP's column and thought you might find it interesting - it discusses the uk as it is a brit paper.

Quote - I can’t understand the anti-Chinese comments on this site when the Chinese seem to be following British, USA and the rest of Europe’s last 200 years of colonial advancement.
 
Except – China seems to have learned from the West’s mistakes and is now quite rightly reaping the rewards.
 
150 years ago, the sun NEVER set on the British Empire.  In those days everyone had a choice.  Work hard to feed yourself and your family or starve, because there was no human rights or welfare state. – Since 1/3 of the world still get to live like this and we watch daily on every news channel, I don’t understand why anyone in the west can’t understand this.
 
The First World War destroyed Britain, Financially and Genetically.  The aristocracy were decimated and their families (the old British Elite – (because every nation throughout history and even today ALWAYS has an elite – if you doubt me, look at Westminster or the EU or Congress in the USA or even any Director of any company) were wiped out.  The UK owned more of the USA before WWI than afterwards and WWII took out the rest.
  
I believe that China is “almost” following the history of the British Empire with one really important caveat.
 China hasn’t forcibly invaded any nation in recent years - China has invested her hard earned cash.
 China is doing what Britain did 150 years ago, except China is not murdering or committing genocide.  China is buying the land and it’s resources and China is developing every nation it invests in.
 
If China buys a cobalt mine in Columbia (hypothetical) China pays for the mine, China puts in infrastructure, builds roads and railways (a lot like Britain used to do – except Britain sent the army first) But, China makes no apologies.  Unlike Britain, China BOUGHT the mine.  China then builds roads and railways and infrastructure that provides employment to local population, not because China feels guilty.  China needs roads and railways and infrastructure so that China can move the cobalt from the mine to the docks – that China also built, man and maintain, so that the cobalt can make it safely and efficiently back to China, which seems fair to me, since China paid for the WHOLE operation.
 
Britain was once like China.  But, then, we let the academics and the socialists and the liberals in.

China makes countries better admitting she'd like that countries resources and then INVESTING in the the Country.
Britain and the USA would also like those resources but they INVEST in the Dictators who murder their own populations on whim yet never need fear the Hague?

Who's more Guilty? China who build jobs and infrastructure or the West who prop up the few at the expense of the rest?
 
Academics and Socialists and Liberals who are full of great ideas, but rely on EVERYONE else paying and suffering for their ideology.
 
China is accused of Human Rights Abuses.  China has a HUGE population who seem to be academically and financially much better off now. 
 
If you look at the total population of China, the abuses they are accused of, their HRA Abuses probably represent less than 2% of the whole Chinese population. Show me a Western country with less than 2% of their population in prison and I might listen to your arguement.

Some people are bad, there is no rehabilitation. If this were the case then western governments would put the needs of their populations above their own party politics!
 
Many millions in China have better lives today than 20 years ago - How many of us in the West can claim the same?. 

China is the worlds new superpower with cash and gold reserves that the rest of the world can only envy.

Perhaps pride, hard work and application - delivers a financially stronger nation than lying through your teeth and claiming Asylum or that your "Rights" have been somehow been abused when you have no pride and not intention to apply yourself to the greater good of the population?

Don't blame China for refusing to believe that everyones a victim.
 I believe the heart of China’s success is that they followed the British Empire Model to build wealth and resources except that China didn’t invade ¾ of the world. 
And China has rejected guilt and socialism.
There is room for everyone as long as they work and provide for it themselves. 
 Modern China has bought and invested in all of its recent acquisitions.
 The main gripe against China is her response to Human Rights Issues.
 I’d doubt that China has 2% of it's massive population behing bars, which is better than any of the West can claim? Is this a Human Rights Abuse or do thieves, cheats and murders actually simply deserve to be behind bars?
 China succeeds because China refuses to give her hard won wealth away to undeserving socialist lost causes.

The Socialists and the Liberal and the Human Rights Activists who end up imprisoned in China are the same “academics” who destroyed every competitive advantage the west ever earned.

That China rounds them up and imprisons them before they get to convince the greater population that they somehow have "Rights" without responsibilities just makes me realise that it's the socialists and Liberals and the Greens who are truly guilty of Human Rights Abuses.
 If you disbelieve me, look to the facts;
 Who is doing better?
 
China or the West?
 
Who is providing jobs and healthy financial future for their populaion?
 
China or the West.
 
Who ignores the best interests of the majority of their hardworking taxpayers in favor of (non entitled) unemployed, iligitimate, illegal, thieves, cheats and murders? 
 
Who rewards hard work and effort and enjoys seeing their hard work and effort rewarded through a more comfortable lifestyle and who gets to witness cuts to education, Health, Defence and every aspect of public expenditure whilst they increase foreign hands (with No conditions, no investment and NO RETURN on investment)?
 
China or the West?
 
I used to love my country, but the simple fact is my country isn’t my country anymore. There entrepreneurial spirit that made us the first Industrial Nation, who - whilst never perfect has saved our European Neighbours TWICE from their own genocidial tendences TWICE in the last 100 years which financially destroyed our nation.
 Given the choice, (like we have a choices?) if I’m FORCED to be subservient to an unelected foreign protectorate?
 
I’d choose China over the UK Government and the European Union EVERY DAY OF THE WEEK.
 
I’m not suggesting that China is perfect.  But – they appear to understand that only hard work and effort builds better lifes and better nations.

China isn't perfect, but neither is the UK or the EU.

The UK and EU seem happy to shower their taxpayer cash on the Lazy, liars , thieves, murders and occaisionally - Ministerial Fraud and Duckhouses....

Treason is a two way street. The UK Government have commited treason against the rest of us for the last 40 years.

Now, given a choice of responsible government. - I'd chose China over Cameron and Clegg every decade of the century.

It made me think.

Fri, 09/16/2011 - 02:37 | 1676263 i-dog
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Thanks for that excerpt. I've forgotten what we were discussing the other day, but I'm very aware of China's role in history. I've lived there, still have senior business connections there, and was on one of the very first western VIP tours through the country immediately after Mao's death.

I've often posted on here that I don't expect China to attack anybody ... it's not in their nature and it's not in their strategic interest. They are traders and diplomats, not warmongering empire builders. They were sailing the seven seas long before southern Europeans accidentally discovered that they didn't fall off the edge of the Earth when they left sight of land. They were always welcome (as far as I have read) in those foreign ports and they've never engaged in expansionist wars of aggression against neighbours or anybody else (though they do vigorously defend their ancient claims over certain border areas with ethnic Chinese origins - like Tibet and part of Kashmir).

Re: Luciferianism. If you are indeed interested, rather than just being snarky, I'll be happy to provide some starter links for you to begin your own research into the role of the Jesuits and Sabbateans in recent events.

Fri, 09/16/2011 - 02:29 | 1676276 AnAnonymous
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Long post which is nothing more in the end than US cheap propaganda.

Made me laugh. A bunch of endless twisted perception to serve self interests. US citizenish.

When was China like UK?

On one hand, it is told that China does not engage into military conquest, on the other hand, it is reminded that England did engage into military conquest.

Guilt? But over what? And guilt is acknowledged in the West? One has still to see Europeans from the US return to Europe.

Expansion has this that when it turns no longer possible to expand, it gives three different categories of people:

first category: people who admit that the primary problem in the current scheme of expansion is the lack of expansion opportunity. Days of expansions are over and this is the main trouble.

second category: people who deny the primary problem and prefer to propagate a loss of cultural value. If the days of expansion are over, that is because the people has lost their cultural ways.

third category: people who deny the primary problem and prefer to propagate a genetical decay. If the days of expansion are over, that is because the people has lost their genetic value.

Second and third category mix rather well one with another, the first not so much with the two others.

Thu, 09/15/2011 - 19:34 | 1675430 Bicycle Repairman
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"Why would oil rich country need a nuclear power?"

My Peak OilTM  buddies tell me the oil is running out.

Thu, 09/15/2011 - 20:23 | 1675617 FeralSerf
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Your Peak Oil buddies speak with forked tongue.

America demonstrated to the world what can happen to a non-lapdog country that does not have nuclear weapons.  Iran needs to hurry if it isn't to follow Iraq into an Anglo-American Hell.

American and Soviet nuclear "power" reactors were built to produce plutonium.  Plutonium was not the byproduct.  Electricity was the byproduct.  This is the reason we have uranium fueled power plants instead of much cheaper and safer thorium fueled ones.

Thu, 09/15/2011 - 20:45 | 1675684 Cathartes Aura
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American and Soviet nuclear "power" reactors were built to produce plutonium.  Plutonium was not the byproduct.  Electricity was the byproduct.  This is the reason we have uranium fueled power plants instead of much cheaper and safer thorium fueled ones.

no idea why more people don't acknowledge this simple basic fact - +100.

Thu, 09/15/2011 - 22:12 | 1675923 bid the soldier...
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And Bicycle'man's Peak Oil buddies speak with forked tounge because?

I must have missed why.

Thu, 09/15/2011 - 20:17 | 1675586 Lord Welligton
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Aldous old chap.

You are running around in circles looking for truth.

Why would Iran not want nuclear weapons?

Why would Iran want nuclear weapons?

That's your answer.

Thu, 09/15/2011 - 21:04 | 1675738 bankruptcylawyer
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to me this is as clear as day. its not just about 'israel' blablabla. it's about former persians iiving in the u.s. and the revolutionaries in iran beind used as pawns by the west to make an oil grab ....and china and russia have a hell of an easy time just playign defense. 

 

problem with being the agressor is it always requires so much more effort than playing defense and you're frequently exposed and vulnerable. 

Thu, 09/15/2011 - 21:30 | 1675813 Maxter
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"Why would oil rich country need a nuclear power?"

Iran doesn't have enough rafinery in his own country to make anything useful of their oil.  Yes, they must IMPORT rafined gas!

Fri, 09/16/2011 - 02:19 | 1676268 AnAnonymous
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Why would oil rich country need a nuclear power? To get the spent fuel rods for nukes.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Made me laugh. US propagandists never rest.

Maybe they need it because they know their own oil reserves? Just telling.

Who can believe that if they had followed the US piece of advice, the US would have delivered freely the nuclear technology after Iran ran out of oil?

Is it not just compulsory for Iran to start thinking of their future while they still have something to trade?

One could even tell that the US would not have pushed nuclear technology for money when Iran oil ran short...

Thu, 09/15/2011 - 17:44 | 1674953 DaveyJones
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Thu, 09/15/2011 - 16:48 | 1674675 boom goes the d...
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uh, that's 2/3's telling 1/3 what's for dinner or a super majority.  so what's for dinner?

Thu, 09/15/2011 - 20:45 | 1675683 pods
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Well in Amerika today, it is over half of our uber CONgress telling the rest of CONgress how they have to vote in order to fuck the "citizens" of amerika.

pods

Thu, 09/15/2011 - 17:21 | 1674833 DonutBoy
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I don't get it.  We did not invade Germany or Japan in WWII to steal resources.  We did not invade Korea to steal resources.  We did not invade Viet Nam to steal resources, it was a mistake to invade Viet Nam, but we didn't go for oil.  We did not invade Grenada for resources,  In Panama, one could argue we went to protect access to the canal - which is access to resources - but not to steal them.  The first Gulf War was certainly motivated to protect access to oil, but not to steal it.  In Iraq, the US has stolen no oil, China is the main commercial partner in Iraq's post-war oil industry.  Afghanistan has no resources.

Where has America invaded a country to steal resources?

 

Thu, 09/15/2011 - 17:25 | 1674863 Rick64
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I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class thug for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism. I helped make Mexico and especially Tampico safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefit of Wall Street. I helped purify Nicaragua for the International Banking House of Brown Brothers in 1902–1912. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for the American sugar interests in 1916. I helped make Honduras right for the American fruit companies in 1903. In China in 1927 I helped see to it that Standard Oil went on its way unmolested. Looking back on it, I might have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate his racket in three districts. I operated on three continents.[12]

General Smedley Butler

Thu, 09/15/2011 - 17:43 | 1674959 NotApplicable
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Oops, I see you beat me to it.

Thu, 09/15/2011 - 17:37 | 1674926 bid the soldier...
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If a country has large deposits of crude oil but is not producing it fast enough, does another country have the right to invade it and replace that country's government with one who has the intention of producing more crude oil faster so it can be consumed faster.

Whose fucking oil is it?

Thu, 09/15/2011 - 20:46 | 1675690 luckylogger
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Its our fuking oil ! They just happen to live there.

Thu, 09/15/2011 - 21:11 | 1675756 bid the soldier...
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Geez, it was just a rhetorical question.

Thu, 09/15/2011 - 23:31 | 1676069 BigJim
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...and you got a rhetorical answer.

Thu, 09/15/2011 - 20:47 | 1675693 pods
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Give you a hint, they carry M-4's and ride in Humvees.

pods

Thu, 09/15/2011 - 17:42 | 1674955 NotApplicable
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Allow me to introduce you to Major General Smedley Butler (Two-Time Congressional Medal of Honor Recipient).

http://www.warisaracket.com/

Thu, 09/15/2011 - 17:49 | 1674994 Lord Welligton
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“We did not invade Germany or Japan in WWII to steal resources”

The USA did not join the Second World War until Pearl Harbour was attacked.

It was a defensive action.

“We did not invade Korea to steal resources”

The USA should not have “invaded” Korea.

They should have let the Chinese take it.

“it was a mistake to invade Viet Nam”

They should have let the Chinese take it.

“The first Gulf War was certainly motivated to protect access to oil, but not to steal it. “

What makes you think that the oil would not have been sold in the market in the absence of the USA going to war?

What makes you think that the USA could not have devised alternatives?

“Afghanistan has no resources.”

It has a pipeline.

It’s about Empire.

Thu, 09/15/2011 - 18:14 | 1675116 Pladizow
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And what keeps the empire "greased and rolling"?

Thu, 09/15/2011 - 18:27 | 1675165 AldousHuxley
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Where has America invaded a country to steal resources?

 

That's not how mob's protection scheme works. Mob is not interested in stealing your business and running it themselves because that means they take risk and have to work your lame job. Mob's core competency is not business acumen but security expertise. They want the businesses to pay protection fees. In order to do that they need to control the business at the highest level and to make sure nobody else (police, private security, other mobs) provides such "protection". Mob also has a gambling house they own. Whenever house loses because mobs themselves took too much of gambling profits, they need more business to "protect" to pay the gambling debts off to keep the house in order.

 

Substitute "mob" with America, "gambling house" with banks, "business" with countries rich in natural resources.

In summary, America needs oil rich countries to trade in dollars to keep the petrodollar system going so that wall st. has enough money to gamble.

 

Oil is America's largest import. Import prices rise when you have inflation due to bailing out banksters. To lessen the truth from being exposed to Americans, need to dampen the oil prices by forcing the suppliers to bear the inflation costs.

 

That should tell you whys of America's foreign policy since getting off from the gold standard.

 

 

Fri, 09/16/2011 - 02:40 | 1676284 AnAnonymous
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Where has America invaded a country to steal resources?

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Made me laugh. US citizens can not limit themselves. Even when you are aware of it, it does not stop from being surprised by their capacity.

One really has to think no boundary with US citizens because they have not.

Where has the US invaded a country to steal resources?

The question should be where it has not.

The US is a colonial country which have invaded and driven away other people to install the US settlers and create the US middle class by stealing from others to distribute among its citizenry.

So where? on the very ground that is now known as the US soil. And this from the beginning of the US history.

Since this little fact (which only accounts for nearly half of the US history since the transfer of indian lands was accomplished in 1898) is ignored, it is obvious that the rest of the list is bollocks.

The US invaded Germany for resources: the US transfered a large number of IP, patent, technology from Germany to the US.

Same with Japan. The Japanese led biological experiments on Chinese guinea pigs (which were human by the way, have to recall with US citizens) and offered protection to the Japanese government in exchange of the biological knowledge etc...

Wont go through all the comment, impossible as it spreads fantasy nearly in each sentence.

Thu, 09/15/2011 - 17:32 | 1674909 UBIGDummy
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To cheer you up, just think back to 2008 election where that Democrat/rino John McCain (KEATING) sang that love song, 

BOMB, BOMB BOMB, BOMB BOMB, IRAN 

Originally sang by the Beach Boys. 

WHAT A FUCKING PUTZ that POS is.  FU JOHN MC CAN.

Thu, 09/15/2011 - 18:59 | 1675299 Let them eat iPads
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The Viet Cong should have killed that motherfucker.

Thu, 09/15/2011 - 20:32 | 1675644 FeralSerf
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Thu, 09/15/2011 - 20:32 | 1675645 FeralSerf
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There was no reason for the Viet Cong to do us any favors like that.

Fri, 09/16/2011 - 09:00 | 1676622 manodedios
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seriously wtf does this mean: " Iran insists that Bushehr represents the government’s determination to husband is vast oil reserves by promoting other energy sources". i've opened all my third grade books, but still can't figure out the meaning.

Fri, 09/16/2011 - 19:21 | 1678945 i-dog
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Wait until next year ... maybe there will be something in your fourth grade books............

Thu, 09/15/2011 - 16:25 | 1674584 spiral_eyes
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They picked the wrong energy source, bitchez...

They have earthquakes... Remember Bam?

Fukushima, Iranian style?

http://azizonomics.com/2011/09/14/why-nuclear-fission-sucks/ 

Thu, 09/15/2011 - 18:39 | 1675227 AldousHuxley
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Would it be ironic if Iran's nuclear reactor had a melt down and radiation got into the oil wells making ME oil no longer safe for export?

 

  •  Muslims will died from drinking radioactive water
  • American military will lose interest in invading Iran
  •  Israel will lose American support
  • Saudi Arabia will be flooded with educated Iranian refugees who will bring down the Saudi kingdom with democracy
Thu, 09/15/2011 - 22:19 | 1675938 bid the soldier...
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You can wake up now.

Thu, 09/15/2011 - 19:32 | 1675421 Cathartes Aura
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San Onofre & Diablo Canyon, in shaky Kalifornia - have a look at the quake activity for today:

http://quakes.globalincidentmap.com/

http://www.energy.ca.gov/nuclear/california.html

Thu, 09/15/2011 - 16:32 | 1674597 Carl LaFong
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Israel bashing is getting so tiresome. Read the Koran, you infidel.  You're next.  Who cares if Iran signed a treaty.  It's basically just toilet paper to them. They know the Koran and that anything signed with an infidel is null and void before the ink is dry.  I'd rather have an Israel who doesn't sign a treaty, than an Iran who does and is lying through their teeth.  When's the last time Israel's threatened to annihilate anybody? Too bad we can't say the same for Iran (mullahs and rulers, not the oppressed citizenry who want peace and freedom from them).  Iran has threatened Israel's existence so many times I've lost count. What you fail to realize is that its leaders do so as a matter of religious duty and they sponsor others who treaten the same (Hezzbollah, Hamas, Al Quaida, etc.). Now we're finding out they were major sponsors of 9/11 (check out latest lawsuit against them from family of one of the pilots).  Gee, what a surprise.  Get a grip. Read a book, especially the Koran. Maybe you'll realize these people actually mean what they say.  

Thu, 09/15/2011 - 16:34 | 1674621 Lee
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For all you do.....FUCK YOU ISRAEL!!

Thu, 09/15/2011 - 16:38 | 1674633 Carl LaFong
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what a whitty retort. that's the best you got?

Thu, 09/15/2011 - 16:40 | 1674644 Lee
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oy vey FUCK YOU ISRAEL!!

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