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Guest Post: Iranian Bushehr Nuclear Plant Comes Online - World Survives
Submitted by John C.K. Daly of OilPrice.com
Iranian Bushehr Nuclear Plant Comes Online - World Survives
On 12 September Iran brought its first nuclear power plant in Bushehr online, connecting it to the country's electrical grid. Iranian officials at the opening ceremony said that the 1,000 megawatt plant has begun generating electricity at 40 percent of its capacity and will reach full capacity by the year’s end following further testing.
Quite aside from demonstrating Iran’s touching post-Fukushima faith in nuclear energy despite being a seismically active country, Bushehr represents a Rorschach test of sorts for all the fears and anxieties in the Middle East, in which everyone looking at the facility has his preconceptions reaffirmed.
“Axis of Evil” charter member Iran insists that Bushehr represents the government’s determination to husband is vast oil reserves by promoting other energy sources, as its economy has hammered by more than three decades of U.S.-led sanctions.
Iran has been subjected to increasingly militant rhetoric from both Tel Aviv and Washington over its civilian nuclear energy program, with thinly veiled threats of possible military action if Tehran does not abandon its efforts, even though they are completely complaint under the terms of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT), which Iran has signed and which Tehran pointedly underlines, it’s nemesis and harshest critic Israel has not.
Russia signed a $1 billion contract in 1995 for building the Bushehr plant and last month the country’s Rosatom supplied the power station’s uranium fuel. The United States urged Russia to delay the startup until Iran proves that it's not developing nuclear weapons, to no avail, as Moscow replied that that the Bushehr project has been closely supervised by the U.N.’s International Atomic Energy Agency.
Russian officials said that Iran had signed a pledge to ship all the spent uranium fuel from Bushehr back to Russia for reprocessing, excluding the possibility that any of it could used to make nuclear weapons.
Russia has insisted that the Bushehr project is essential for persuading Iran to cooperate with the IAEA and fulfill its obligations under international nuclear nonproliferation agreements.
Many aspects of Iran’s uranium enrichment activities trouble the international community, so much so that in June the U.N. Security Council slapped a fourth set of sanctions on Iran over its nuclear program. The sanctions followed Iran's refusal to halt uranium enrichment, a process which can be used for the production of fuel for power plants when uranium is enriched to a level of 3-4 percent purity, as well as material for nuclear warheads if enriched to more 90 percent purity. Equally worrying is the fact that Iran received its centrifuge designs from Pakistan, the world’s first Muslim nuclear state, which developed its own nuclear weapons in response to India’s weapon program.
Iran continues to insist that its nuclear program is purely peaceful, aimed at producing nuclear energy, but the United States and Israel in particular believe that Tehran's real goal is to produce atomic weaponry.
And Israel has more reason than most to be concerned, as it developed its own nuclear weapons in the 1950s and 1960s at its Dimona reactor by hoodwinking the IAEA, a fact finally proven in 1986 by Israeli whistleblower Mordechai Vanunu, who leaked details of the program to Britain’s Sunday Times and was subsequently kidnapped back to Israel, tried on charges of treason and espionage and subsequently served an 18-year prison sentence. If any nation has a concept of how to covertly develop nuclear weaponry, it is Israel.
So, Bushehr finally comes down to seeing what you want to see there.
That said, international law is not, despite the efforts of the Bush 2 administration, the issue of a nation’s unilaterally “cherry picking” through intelligence for material supporting national agendas stands in stark contrast to building an international consensus for general behavior through the rule of law. Unilaterally ascribing the worst possible motives to a nation rather than letting international law resolve issues will eventually leave the globe in the jungle, with survival of the strongest.
Any Israeli strike on Iran’s nuclear facilities, unlike its attack on Iraq’s Osirak nuclear reactor in 1981 or its 2007 strike on reported Syrian nuclear facilities, will become an international incident, as at Buhshehr alone, according to Russian Federation Energy Minister Sergei Shmatko, “around 1,500 (Russian) people” now work at Bushsehr and “several hundred people – depending on our agreement with Iran – will be engaged in operating the plant.”
The world has uneasily lived with Pakistan’s nuclear “Muslim bomb” for 13 years. Whatever the reality of Iran’s nuclear program, if it does indeed mask a weapons component, why would Iran feel tempted to use it to strike Israel, as it would inevitably provoke massive retaliation from Israel’s nuclear arsenal, estimated at several hundred atomic weapons, deployed by a triad of aircraft, missiles and submarines.
To paraphrase Sigmund Freud, who famously observed, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar,” perhaps sometimes a nuclear power plant is just… a nuclear power plant.
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The USS Liberty, Israel's first false flag operation.
oh, that was not the first! How about the bombing of the King David Hotel?
Why should they, the Americans, have trusted us? We were a bunch of Russians; socialist Russians.
- Isser Harel, founder of Israeli intelligence, on U.S. relations with Israel
As long as the plant was not manufactured by GE we should be safe, but hell let's send some humanitarian bombs their way just to remind them who's the boss!
Stuxnet 2, bitchez!!! And, why would Iran want to build its nuclear capability?
http://www.examiner.com/foreign-policy-in-national/iran-photo-3
far more dangerous is the imminent Palestinain bid to seek statehood before the U.N., something they have every right to do... but the state of israel and zionists are literally foaming at the mouth ready to spill blood because of it... the very thought that israel might get some interference with its plans to exterminate the remaining Palestinians will lead the zionists to do something very very stupid, in the near future.
Seriously? Exterminate the remaining Palestinians? I keep forgetting what a waste of time this is.....thanks for reminding me.
Stated more soberly, LaFong, the Jewish state opposes the two-state solution because it would inhibit Israel's relentless construction of illegal settlements on the West Bank and curtail its punitive embargo currently asphyxiating Gaza.
1973 Ariel Sharon,
""We'll make a pastrami sandwich of them. Yes, we'll insert a strip of Jewish settlements in between the Palestinians, and then another strip of Jewish settlements right across the West Bank, so that in 25 years' time, neither the United Nations nor the United States, nobody, will be able to tear it apart."
25 years Later Sharon,
"Everybody has to move, run and grab as many (Palestinian) hilltops as they can to enlarge the (Jewish) settlements because everything we take now will stay ours...Everything we don't grab will go to them."
And in 2001
“Israel may have the right to put others on trial, but certainly no one has the right to put the Jewish people and the State of Israel on trial.”
I'm not quite sure how anyone could be taking these comments out of context: especially if you look at how the map of Israel has transformed since 1948...
To paraphrase Sigmund Freud, who famously observed, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar,” perhaps sometimes a nuclear power plant is just… a nuclear power plant.
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i suggest you read his thoughts on self-deception. you are in dire need of it.
well, james, freud certainly knew a lot about self-deception!
and we are certainly all in need of such self-study, alwayz
some are also deceived by others, and due to family stockholm syndrome-like circumstances, or just good ol' edu.con and "harmless & entertaining news and entertainment media" actually are in desperate need of breaking free and need professional help just to take the first baby-steps
"Welcome to Japan Mr. Bond"!
Yay, & nice intro, t.d.!
Gold Seeker Closing Report: Gold and Silver Fall Over 2%
today, we have GATA-linked news including that the donald did a lease for precious, & HSBC has been dropped from the silver price suppression lawsuit (paste): HSBC has been dropped from a lawsuit accusing banks of suppressing silver prices after reaching a temporary standstill agreement with plaintiffs' attorneys.
The London-based bank's removal leaves JPMorgan Chase as the lone defendant named in the case brought by dozens of silver investors and money managers. (end paste)...and...
Banks rush to lend gold to get dollar funding | Gold Anti-Trust Action Committee
this is some "collateralized" info that may be about all or some of the ("90-day") swaps that we have been reading and writing about: give us a 1/2 load of fecal matter matter + 1/2 load 0'gold = we'll give you some "sidelined and sanitized" green stamps from our "system". this is the pawn shop i wrote about a coupla daze ago, where "sovereign" gold is going to the banksters for a "swap" and of course, how could these other banksters not be able to re-pay in january?
who could imagine them not getting their gold back? how cld this be? L0L!!!
one might also imagine that the "swappers" are handing over maybe $2500-$3500/oz of the precious and that venezuela will not break the bullion banksters' paper ponzies independently of where the hell the moQ buried libya's stash...
and...Big commercial traders taking a stand against silver | Gold Anti-Trust Action Committee... where what i erlier called "painting a technical break-down" is discussed even (wonderful universe!) as the bullion banksters are cutting deals in the "justice" system for criminal acts/textbook RICO conspiracies which their puppets will forever adjudicate "civilly" so the nannies can get paid, too!!!
The author of this article is a tool. Evidence that Iran is working to get a bomb is overwhelming, they've said as much themselves. That they've started up a "civilian" reactor isn't evidence to the contrary, which the author seems to suggest. He also seems to suggest the Iranians share his moral sensibilities and won't use them under threat of retaliation. Come on, these are the same folks that sent waves of 15 year olds on foot against massed artillery in the Iran-Iraq War, and are governed by a guy that thinks it is his mission to hasten the apocalypse and the arrival of the 12th Imam
This reactor is part of the program. If you look back to last year at this time, the Russians started helping them fuel the reactor. After the Russians finished, they announced some delays for additional testing. It's likely this was to add some rods with moderately enriched (20%-ish) uranium. 3 - 4 months from now, you'll see news that they've shut down the reactor for more "routine testing and inspections". 3 - 4 months is the amount of time needed to get fissionable plutonium. Run it more, and you get too much Pu-240. Pull out the rods, extract the plutonium, and presto! you've got nukes! (It's a bit more complicated than that, plutonium is a finicky material to work with, it forms lots of allotropes, burns on contact with air, and is especially poisonous) A year tops, since they've already got a working bomb design via Pakistan.
Oh, I see, so the Pakistani Khan generously shared the nuke design with a Shia enemy?
And, just when did they "say as much already" -- that they are trying to build a bomb.
Your technical info sounds plausible, but your assumptions look more like the running broad jump.
The neocons love to cry about Israel being a one or two-bomb target. What do you think is left of Russia when you take out Moscow and St Pete? GB when you take out London? FR when you take out Paris?
Israel has 200-400 nukes. Zionists: Attack Bushehr on your own time, and dime. Don't call us, we'll call you.
What Pakistani Khan?
the Johnny Appleseed of Muslim nukes was a dude named Khan. I should have offset his name with commas for clarity.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdul_Qadeer_Khan
Fascinating!!
"The investigation exposed Israeli businessman turned engineer Asher Karni as having sold component of centrifugal devices to Khan's associates and its roots were also found in aidingIsraeli nuclear program as well.[42] Karni was the source providing electronic materials to Israeli nuclear programme to Pakistan's nuclear development.[42] Tahir was arrested in Malaysia in May 2004 under a Malaysian law allowing for the detention of individuals posing a security threat.[42]"
Countries are like people. ZHedger’s recommendation #1 is ammo for the day when SHTF. World shit has already hit the fan. Countries with out proper ammo are already taken out (Iraq, Libya, and Afghanistan). Countries with proper ammo (DPRK and Pakistan) are still ok.
Only a full retard would swallow your story. First, the IAEA monitors the reactor in Iran. No way your stupid sceanrio could get past the IAEA. Second, the Russians have absolutely no interest in Iran getting the bomb. Third, the Iranians themselves don't want the bomb. Ayatollah Khomenei said the bomb was "un-Islamic", so only a fully bad-dude Iranian would go against that, and such a person would not last a day in Iran. Fourth, it would only take 1 bomb to wipe out Tehran, and Iran would be back to the stone age. So Iran isn't going there, and only an idiot or a propagandist would claim otherwise. Given all the nuclear frooforall you raise, I assume you are a propagandist.
In 1941 Iran was attacked and partitioned by Russia and Britain. In 1951 the goverment of Iran was overthrown by US intelligence operatives on behalf of Brit oil interests. During the mid 1980s Sadaam Hussein's war of aggression against Iran was armed and backed by Israel/US. 1,000,000 Iranian soldiers and civilians died repelling that Zionist attack. If they don't wish their country to be attacked and massacred yet again, Iran's leaders will develop nuclear weapons.
How many nuclear weapons does Israel have?
301-401
How many nuclear weapons does Israel have?
300-400
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have the iranians ever heard of a place called fukushima? why are they doing this? nuclear power is not all that great....
Planning for the future. In the next 50 - 100 years oil will become ridiculously valuable. The supply is not unlimited and it is the feedstock for modern ag and industry. Why sell it or burn it now when it will be that much more precious in one or two generations? Plus, whether they admit it or not, no state is safe in a nuclear armed world unless they become a nuclear player. Real Politik served up atomic style. :-)
Nuclear power lets them sell more oil to fund their terror support operations.
Iran has a growing sustainable economy with very little debt despite the economically devastating Iraq/Iran war where the U,S. allowed and sold weapons to Iraq (Britian sold to both sides),decades of sanctions by the U.S. and the freezing of 11B in assets, and sanctions by the U.N.. How is this possible? They own and control their own central bank which means they are in control of their monetary system. This means they don't need IMF loans, International bank loans, and U.S. foreign aid, which in turn means no leverage for the International bankers, or the countries they control. Threat to the status quo equals evil.
Right, any outfit that doesn't roll over for the global cartel is by definition a terrorist state. One day, we, the US, will pay an enormous price for our ruthless arrogance.
To paraphrase those wacky Maoist kids from the Red Guard, "Death to the Rothschild-Warburg-Morgan-Rockefeller neo-feudal cabal and its soul-destroying global hegemony".
Does anyone know what the last 7 central banks not controlled by a Rotchschild offshoot were?
7. Afghanistan - so much for that
6. Iraq - so much for that
5. Sudan - (just got partitioned into North and South... divide and conquer)
4. Libya - so much for that
3. North Korea
2. Cuba
1. Iran
Is there any doubt what our agenda is??
Good list, Gecko. So much for that gold dinar, eh?
Not my agenda! Now, why do you insist upon being an evil-doer?
do you have a source for this?
Well, I see that divide and conquer is alive and well in this thread.
Guess what, folks? Neither Iran nor Israel (or any other state) exist. They are all mental abstractions, not physical entities capable of thought or action.
Yet, nearly everyone here is taking a side, playing along with the charade.
Here's the deal, all of the good stuff is likely true, as well as all of the bad stuff, but it isn't due to the actions of either abstraction, but the operatives within them, planting these divisive seeds of fear-mongering in order to institute control.
If someone ever gets nuked again, it will be a false-flag operation by operatives of some intelligence agency. But go ahead, be afraid of things that don't exist, if that's what it takes to get you through the day.
"They are all mental abstractions"
As are you.
Abstract to your heatrs content.
For those of us who have worked through the question "what is real, and what is not", the vast majority of people on this planet are clearly and utterly insane. The single most extreme and fundamental form of insanity is the inability to distinguish real from unreal (existent from non-existent). Yet the vast majority of human beings assume (and often ardently believe and insist) that all sorts of utterly overt fictions are real.
It is as if kids grow up and grudgingly give up believing in the fictions called "SantaClaus" and "ToothFairy", but then start believing hundreds/thousands/millions of other fictions like "government" and "corporation" and "country" (as opposed to physical continent or island). This is true even though fundamental law and definitions have called all organizations "fictitious entities" for hundreds of years. People ignore the (correct, crucial and informative) "fictitious" part of that phrase and focus only on the (incorrect, misleading) "entity" part.
A sane person would, at some point in their lives, perform this thought experiment and identify what is going on, and what is real. John and Mary decide to open a bakery. The sit down at the table to plan their endeavor. They decide to call their bakery "SugarHighBakery". As everyone knows, this endeavor will be "John and Mary DBA SugarHighBakery" (where DBA means "doing business as"). Everyone who is not an overt liar or a moron clearly understands that when John and Mary agreed, "Yes, we hereby decide to operate a bakery and call it SugarHighBakery", that NOTHING popped into existence. Clearly the only place anything happened at all is... in their brains, where they reconfigured the relative amplification of some of the neurons in their brain to form the PURELY MENTAL configuration "SugarHighBakery". That is clearly recognized by the legal term DBA in the phrase "John and Mary DBA SugarHighBakery". And that is also clearly recognized by the legal term "fictitious entity" that applies to all organizations (including corporations and governments).
Sadly, you are a member of the vast majority of humans who are literally insane in the most fundamental possible way... totally incapable of being able to distinguish what exists (is real), and what does not exist (is a fiction). I call this problem "the fatal flaw in human consciousness"... the much too strong tendency to treat all their mental units the same - as legitimate references to real, existing entities. You cannot imagine how human beings appear to those of us who have worked through this issue, understand clearly, and simply watch almost the entirety of the species of completely berzerk insane monkeys called homo-sapien make complete idiots of themselves.
We wish humans would "get real". But they won't. The predators-that-be and predator-class understand this phenomenon very well, and take maximum advantage of the overwhelming mass insanity of the species. How else could 0.1% of humanity utterly dominate the other 99.9% ??? Answer: they couldn't.
"you are a member of the vast majority of humans who are literally insane"
I'd be obliged if you could define "you".
If that's not to much trouble for one as enlightened as "you".
"You" that understands "the fatal flaw in human consciousness".
Anyone (i assume you), who calls a real, living, breathing human being (the guy who posted the message you answered) "a mental abstraction" is who I was referring to as "you". That is, YOU.
No non-existent can or did post a reply on ZH. Read what you posted, and think about what you claim. If you can't distinguish real physical existents from "a mental abstraction", you are literally and clinically insane. But you have lots of company, since most people today are too.
You might try to consider that "you" are an abstraction.
And that it is you that is insane.
Though perhaps that's to much for one who "thinks" that 0.1% of "humanity" dominates the rest.
Good luck with that thesis and your insanity.
Gee since this entire place is an illusion and you simply give authority to the illusion. It's a wonder that there aren't many more illusions nested within. You don't ascend out of this place. You just get tired of the funhouse mirror fucktard zoo.
The next country that false flags another country will get false flagged back so so fast it won't remember what time zones it's in.
If only that were true (unless the leaders of both sides agreed in advance that that was to be the outcome)!
False flags are not designed to fool the military and political leaders, only to fool the populace -- who are required to give up their children to the engineered conflicts.
Well, yeah.
False flag or colors is one of the oldest, most successful tricks in the book. Byron tells us of one of the earliest examples:
"The Assyrian came down like the wolf on the fold,
And his cohorts were gleaming in purple and gold;
And the sheen of their spears was like stars on the sea,"
Everybody knows that it wasn't Sennacherib and the Assyrians who attacked Jerusalem but Xerxes and his Persian cohorts who usually gleamed in silver and scarlet, with little silver frogs and epaulets. Except this time: purple and gold.
Xerxes' gambit was so successful it fooled God, who was so embarrassed He destroyed both Sennacherib and Xerxes leaving the Jews to eventually move on to Wall Street and do their thing there.
I see one more line in this long list. (2012 America )
http://www.simpletoremember.com/articles/a/HistoryJewishPersecution/
What's C.E.?
How many nuclear weapons does Israel have?
300-400
Thanks.
I missed your first response.
Surely they could share a little?
No?
Give Iran 20.
Give Iraq 20.
Give the Saudis 20?
They'd have loads left.
What's the problem?
It is clear that the middle ground will be hard to reach on this tetchy subject.
Maybe the genius middle east envoy tony bliar should be mobilised if he can pull himself away from his TBTF payback speaking tour.
Duke.
For fuck sake.
Blair wasn't given that gig to make peace.
He was given it to make war.
It's all that evil fuck ever does.
Lord W.
You will see i used the B Liar spelling of Blair.
The 'gig' itself was arrogance personified, given to him as a lap dog trinket by crooks with no authority.
He was/is beneath contempt and i'd have him napalmed for his treason.
Thats just me though,
Missed that.
On an anecdotal note, can not confirm it to be true, Israel has successfully miniaturized nuclear weapons. War does seem to be looming in ME and if the above is true, multiple mushroom type clouds will be spread across several ME nations. just sayin'
heard a rumour that underground mini-nukes can "cause" earthquakes, wild eh?
*nods*
Grats Iran ... wait, isn't one of the byproducts plutonium? Oh shit, I hope the "twelvers" don't know this!
boy ... I can see the foreign policy sophistication on display here ...... f**k Israel. No pronblems with Iran ... it is all Israeli propaganda.
And Smedley Butler was a hero (have Marine relatives ... no better friend, no worse enemy, Semper Fi)and entitled to his opinion/expression ... just as Jane Fonda is a great actress and entiteld to her views. But Jane Fonda was a traitor and General Butler just might not be functionally equipped to address foreign policy ... despite his international experience. Audie Murphy transitioned ok to Hollywood acting but that does not make him Howard Hughes.
this is pretty childish some of the stuff one reads here. Just like George Washington Blog and the remote radio control argumentation that flew 3 jets into WTC & Pentagon. Cheney or Mossad or Oliver Stone did it ... keep your minds & lives simple alright
sure is a lot of hate Amerika and Israel .. and banksters ,,, and "Rothschilds" (<<<if you know what I really mean ... thank heavens I'm not Jewish or I'd really be uncomfortable here) .... ...and keep the list rolling
Haters gonna/gotta hate ... is this part of the ZH good will development mindset? There is cynical and then there is off your rocker .... I'm as sceptical about Goldman Sucks as anyone and probably longer than most here were alive . but there is a point you give up the hate ....
How many nuclear weapons does Israel have?
No point being on ZH if you aint going to learn, do the research and read the links, new meat.
Smedley Darlington Butler (July 30, 1881 – June 21, 1940), nicknamed "The Fighting Quaker" and "Old Gimlet Eye", was a Major General in the U.S. Marine Corps, and at the time of his death the most decorated Marine in U.S. history. During his 34-year career as a Marine, he participated in military actions in the Philippines, China, in Central America and the Caribbean during the Banana Wars, and France in World War I. By the end of his career he had received 16 medals, five of which were for heroism. He is one of 19 people to twice receive the Medal of Honor, one of three to be awarded both the Marine Corps Brevet Medal and the Medal of Honor, and the only person to be awarded the Brevet Medal and two Medals of Honor, all for separate actions.
Sounds like a man of integrity and plenty of applicable experience to form the opinions he did about war. If that isn't enough for you then a few decades later we have another general that became president maybe you've heard of him, President Eisenhower warning of a Military Industrial Complex.
They're 210 megawatts short!
Iran has only to look at Libya when considering making concessions to the West. Iran cooperates fully with the IAEA, and they figure that's international law, so they'll just do that, and let the chips fall where they may. Should they cancel their power plant because Israel doesn't like it? Because the U.S. spouts off a bunch of rhetoric?
Qadaffi tried to appease the west. He basically got on his knees, and agreed to everything the US asked...if only they would remove the sanctions. In a brilliant plan, the U.S. manages to convince the world that Qadaffi personally ordered the Lockerbee bombing...after the U.S. convinces the world that Qadaffi personally ordered the bombing of a nightclub in Berlin. What the news doesn't want to report is the fact that the guy who was convicted of the Lockerbee bombing was about to have his conviction overturned...that most of the Lockerbee bombing victims families do not believe the guy who was convicted had anything to do with the bombing, and that it's relatively common knowledge in Scottland, among other places..that the Lockerbee trial was a total frame-up. Now the primary witness against the "bomber" has admitted to being hired and payed to falsify his testimony. So, in a clever political move, the UK decides to do damage control by releasing him.
Now can anyone one of you tell me seriously....would the UK, or the US ever seriously consider releasing a real Terrorist, who was properly convicted in court for the murder of 300 people? Get real! Can you imagine the U.S. capturing Bin Laden, then letting him go, because he was sick? Of course the guy was innocent...the UK didn't want the court to make that ruling..so they let him go. That way they could maintain their story, then say letting him go was a mistake...place the blame around, and never have to admit that Libya had nothing to do with Lockerbee. The official line is ridiculous on it's face....they released a guilty man, because they didn't want him to be uncomfortable? Compasionate release? Yeah right. There's never any compassion for terrorists...not the real ones.
One fraud is used to comit another fraud....many long years of sanctions left Qadaffi weakened at home. He made concessions to the U.S. that he otherwise never would have, which enevitiably lead to his current predicament.
Now, the Libyan people have a new government who was elected by nobody (except Nato), who have Al Quaeda fighters in their ranks, and who will roll back all the progress Libya has enjoyed during the last 42 years.
So that's pretty much the type of thing Iran can expect in the near future, unless they really play their cards right.
Anybody know where Saddam is? We need to invade Iran. Saddam! Get your butt in here. <whispering>
Oh. <thinking hard>
Don't we have another puppet despotic leader to back/hack?