Guest Post: It Is Time For The Ron Paul Revolution To Move Beyond Politics

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Submitted by Brandon Smith of Alt-Market,


In the lead up weekend to the RNC convention, Tampa, Florida was awash in political electricity.  It was so prevalent you could sense it in the corridors of air terminals across the country before you ever made it to that hot humid peninsula in the south.  I admit, to be caught up in it is exciting.  The ideal of democratic participation, the feeling of rejuvenation and community, joining the ranks of one’s ideological brethren to charge into intellectual combat for the future of our nation.  If any of it was real, I would have been truly inspired.  Unfortunately, I was well aware that the Republican convention was a farce, and knew full well what the end result would be for the Ron Paul campaign.

I had the privilege of being invited by the organizers of Paulfest, a Liberty Movement Woodstock of sorts, to give a speech on alternative economics and solutions to the general crisis we face as a country in the near future.  On the long flight I found myself surrounded by GOP fanboys and even a Secret Service agent, as well as the endless FOX and CNN cavalcade reports on terminal TV’s during layovers.  If you were in the middle of it, you would think something “important” was about to happen.  If anything, it only clarified my concerns that there is still far too much that needs to be accomplished before the year of 2012 is over.

Arrival at Paulfest revealed immediate conflicts between the Ron Paul campaign and its base support.  Certain Ron Paul staff (namely the infamous Jesse Benton) had been going out of their way to stiff and in some cases sabotage the event despite Ron Paul’s words of appreciation to those involved.  Benton has had a long track record of venom against Ron Paul’s base supporters, which he referred to as “big fringe elements” in texts to potential speakers including Peter Schiff, to persuade them from partaking in the festival:

Benton has on numerous occasions kicked out alternative news journalists from Ron Paul events in a move to sterilize the press box. When the RNC deliberately buried states with large Ron Paul delegate counts in the bleachers at the back of the building where television cameras would not notice them, complaints to the GOP and the campaign abounded, and an audit of the RNC was even called for.  Yet, Benton responded snidely, saying:

“I am glad so many of our delegates get to sit close together.”

It has become clear that Benton and others have been “handling” Ron Paul for a considerable portion of his campaign and attempting to divorce him from the elements of the movement which are seen as “extreme” or anti-establishment, even though these are the same elements that catapulted Ron Paul into the minds of average Americans.  My impression is that they have been targeted for surgical removal because they are impossible to co-opt for the purposes of diplomacy (submission) with the Neo-Con elites running the GOP carnival. 

Rand Paul’s recent endorsement of Mitt Romney is not surprising given the parasitic nature of particular campaign organizers who buzz about him, including Benton.  The bottom line is that some people in the movement are not in it to fight for freedom, or to ensure a brighter and more Constitutional Republic.  Some are in the movement to further their political careers and ambitions, and are perfectly willing to use the energy of popular candidates to carry them to success.       

Sadly, this is the ultimate weakness of the political ideal; regardless of how honest and forthright a candidate is, even a principled luminary like Ron Paul can be undermined by those closest to him if he is not careful.  Millions of people relying solely on the tenuous chance of victory of a single man in a single rigged contest is NEVER a recipe for liberty.

The internal conflict was a source of tension and depression for many who only wanted to see unity within the movement, a final hurrah for Ron Paul, and a last drive towards a respectable showing at the RNC.  The problem is that for some reason there was an expectation among some Paul revolutionaries that there would be a semblance of “fairness”.  I’m not sure why considering that after four years and two presidential campaigns there has never been a single moment of fair-play in the GOP towards Ron Paul or the Liberty Movement in general.  We have been the targets of mass media attacks, Republican con-games, and even DHS profiling.  How anyone could think that Ron Paul was going to win by playing a game in which the rules are written and re-written (literally, as we saw with the GOP state delegate selection process changes) by the corrupt system is beyond me.

The most I had ever hoped for was a broken and perhaps chaotic RNC (a rightful punishment for the Neo-Cons), and the expansion of truth.  For me, the Ron Paul campaign has always been a vehicle for the movement to expose the reality of our society to those half-hypnotized by the doldrum madness of the mainstream.  I never saw it as a solution to our vast problems in and of itself. 

Those of us who come from a macroeconomic background tend to have a more grounded vision of time.  That is to say, we know the potential danger, and have a more profound sense of urgency than those who only approach activism through politics.  We have mathematical insight, not just social or intuitive insight, into the approaching storm.  This comes not only with certainty, but extended responsibility.  During a round table discussion which included myself, Stewart Rhodes of Oath Keepers, Chuck Baldwin, and many other fantastic voices of the movement, I found that the boys from Montana had our work cut out for us in moving the discussion away from the purely political.  The talk touched on alternative strategies, including self sufficiency and independent living, but gravitated time and again back to “finding new candidates to take Ron Paul’s place”, and coming up with new protest venues. 

I was not able to take an accurate tally, but my ballpark guess is that though there are millions of Ron Paul supporters out there, at least half are completely unprepared for any kind of crisis event, and really do believe they have four more years to wait in quasi-hibernation while America hangs by a thin fiscal thread.  It is not my intention to drive a wedge between “preparedness Ron Paulers” and “political Ron Paulers”.  Far from it.  But really, these folks should know better.

Stewart Rhodes’ speech at Paulfest was the most shocking for many of the political Paulers, as well as the most necessary.  He removed the kid gloves completely as well as any feel-good rhetoric, stating that the GOP as a party was dead, and deserved to be, letting the Paul folks know that any further strategy of attempting to “infiltrate” the Republican establishment and turn it over to the side of good was a waste of time.  He also stated that it is no longer enough for the movement to play around as “intellectual warriors”, they might soon have to become real warriors.  I agree.

In my speech, I gave clear cut and tangible solutions to Paulfest attendees, including alternative markets and barter networks, commodity based currencies, micro industries and localized business models, useful trade skills, off-grid living, preparedness, and if all else fails, real revolution.  Not idealized intellectual activism under the catchy label of revolution, but fists in the air and rifles in hand revolution.  The kind that scares the crap out of most, not because of its danger, but because of its finality of purpose.  The will to fight, really fight, is frightening, especially to those who cling to the belief that one can reason with his opponents.  The cold hard fact is; some men are not men.  Some men are monsters, and reason is the last thing that will ever sway them…

I also closed with an admission; that I fear little for the future.  Despite the flaws of the Ron Paul campaign, the elections, and the movement in general, there is something to be said for the miracle that has occurred since 2008, and I do mean “miracle”.  Four years ago, an activist speaking against the Federal Reserve, for instance, would be immediately met with attacks from all sides and outnumbered 50 to 1.  Today, the roles are reversed.  The internet is teaming with life and defenders of liberty while the majority of Americans and even Congress are calling for an audit or end of the Fed.  The preparedness culture has exploded with dedicated families willing to make the terrifying leap into a once alien lifestyle.  The mainstream media has been crushed by alternative outlets; as their numbers dwindle into oblivion, ours skyrocket in turn.  All in all, it is not a bad time to be a champion of the Constitutional philosophy, and the existence of such a movement gives me enduring optimism.  I do not “think” we will prevail; I KNOW we will prevail.  

As I sat in the Sun Dome in Tampa witnessing the last speech of Ron Paul’s campaign career, I felt the loss that lingered within the crowd, but this was not the end.  Not to sound callous, but frankly, the best thing that could have happened to the movement today was a farewell from Ron Paul and an end to the political theater that most have been caught up in for the better part of this year.  The game is over.  The real battle begins. 

Ron Paul did more for the movement than many of us had ever dreamed.  He forced the Constitution back into the mainstream when we needed it most.  He breathed life into America once again.  But now, his job is done.  Rand Paul will not carry the movement forward, nor will any other candidate, at least not in the short time this nation has left before it becomes entirely unrecognizable. 

Now, Ron Paul activists will be forced to walk away from the chessboard and to examine the legitimacy of bottom up solutions at the local level, rather than being obsessed with the top down drudgery at the federal level.  They will have to insulate themselves using decentralized economic systems and self sustaining living methods.  They will have to learn to produce necessities for themselves, and to interact within their communities face to face.  They will be compelled to educate local police and military to wake them up to the civil catastrophes ahead.  If they do seek out political strategies, it will have to be at the county and state levels, where there is at least a chance of making viable progress.  And, most of all, they will have to adopt a self-defense mindset in addition to intelligent discourse.  They will have to become what I would call ‘Warrior Poets’ in the shadow of this dark age.  They will have to think, and feel, but also be willing to fight, and perhaps even die for their principles.  They will have to become whole men and women, rather than incomplete people, projecting all their hopes and dreams into a governmental white knight that will never come. 

Ultimately, politics has been warped into a mechanism by which the masses can hand over their responsibility to affect change within the system they live, and pass the buck on to others.  It is time to move away from this failed dynamic.  It is time for the Ron Paul revolution to mature, and to embrace the pain of doing what must be done.  It is time to take matters into our own hands.

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JLee2027's picture

The system will self-destruct on it's own, but who wants to wait? There are ways to hasten it's demise, civil disobedience, declaring one's own debt jubilee (again why wait?), spreading the word, etc.

Fight them everywhere you can - the legislature, the courts, on the street. In a non-violent manner of course.

Ima anal sphincter's picture

What would scare you more, !0,000 people with signs or 10,000 people with guns? Just say-in.

JLee2027's picture

I'm here to promote ecomonic change and a return to the free market, by natural and inevitable forces. Scaring people has nothing to do with it.

CompassionateFascist's picture

Requiem for a Lightweight: Ron Paul. He coulda been somebody, y'know? Gone 3rd Party and put the Whigs, er, Republicrats out-of-business right now. Instead. when the GrandOldPedophiles threatened his son's political "career", he collapsed. Pitiful spectacle. Gist of the essay, that it's now bullets not ballots, on target.

Azannoth's picture

Agree by staying a die-hard Republican RP 'lost the war' even if he won some battles, he should have denounced the Reps a few years ago and went 3rd party that could have been his real legacy that actually accomplished something, maybe not now but in a few years. The system is ready to collapse and what is ready to fall over deserves a good push

The best way of achieving that is to form a 3rd party and get the system off balance, it's only holding on by it's last threads, give it a good shove and it's gone.

This 3rd party does not need to be big, anything at or about 5% would suffice to scramble the power brokers calculations, imagine this like a board game with every new 'dimension' to the game the complexity increases exponentially that is why they need to keep it a 2 way system because anything more that this quickly becomes unpredictable, it breaks peoples 'us vs. them' mentality and gives the voter a 'none of the above' option

boogerbently's picture

Grow up.

He, like you, could recognize the futility in fighting the two-party system.

Azannoth's picture

I think you hit the nail on the head 'fighting' is a old-fashion idolized romantic concept and simply has no place in battle, it's all about winning hat matters not fighting

This is the 1st mistake any body makes entering combat(no matter what combat even ideological) all they want is a nice clean fight, no no no it's all about winning that matters even if you have to stick a live grenade in a white pigeon and send it to your enemies camp, you start all your planning with how are you going to win not how are you going to fight

.. this is what I think lacked/lacks in the whole RP Revolution thing, there is no concept of 'how are we going to win' it's all about the fight not the kill shot

The concept now it seems is 'we are going to enlighten people and when we reach a critical mass it will all magically come together', this has a very small chance of working(if at all) a better strategy would be(but not exclusively) to completely break free of the old right vs. left paradigm form a new political entity(because you need representation) and coalesce around it trying to win counties and states(bottom up not top down) and gradually form 1st passive than active resistance against the Feds, just for starters, if we or RP started doing this say 4 years ago we'd be a whole lot further now, but truthfully I think it's all to late now we had(past tense) our chances it's going to go down hill anyway you spit at it

11b40's picture

Rule # 1 in guerrilla warfare - he who fights and runs away, lives to fight another day.

Hit & run.  Max damage - minimum exposure.

Bicycle Repairman's picture

"Now, Ron Paul activists will be forced to walk away from the chessboard and to examine the legitimacy of bottom up solutions at the local level, rather than being obsessed with the top down drudgery at the federal level."

Forget about the national media, political parties and the political system.  To quote George Carlin "They don't give a fuck about you."  You need to work at a grass roots, person-to-person level.  The internet is not enough.  And it won't be easy.  Over time as things unravel, it will get easier. 

You are all missionaries delivering the good word to the heathens.  Keep the faith.

Red Heeler's picture

To quote George Carlin, "Don't vote."

"I have solved this political dilemma in a very direct way: I don't vote. On Election Day, I stay home. I firmly believe that if you vote, you have no right to complain. Now, some people like to twist that around. They say, 'If you don't vote, you have no right to complain,' but where's the logic in that? If you vote, and you elect dishonest, incompetent politicians, and they get into office and screw everything up, you are responsible for what they have done. You voted them in. You caused the problem. You have no right to complain. I, on the other hand, who did not vote -- who did not even leave the house on Election Day -- am in no way responsible for that these politicians have done and have every right to complain about the mess that you created." - George Carlin

Dalago's picture

You guys and gals should take a look at Free State Project.  Its explanding state by state.  Its freaking awesome!!!

Michael's picture

I think people should burn massive amounts of CDs recorded in HD of Clint Eastwood's RNC convention speech and hand them out to democrats, republicans, and everybody you see for free.

Here's something you can physically do;

Get off your asses and become a part of the solution.


It looks like the view count of likes and dislikes ratio on this video is what I usually get here on this ZH site.

TheSilverJournal's picture

The Rand Paul movement is what's up. When the roof comes down on the currency, someone with some common sense needs to take over. The other guys don't even know what currency is.

SWRichmond's picture

The kind that scares the crap out of most, not because of its danger, but because of its finality of purpose.

The problem is that most cannot come to grips with the simple fact that history may have chosen them to be the ones who fight and die, but not to be among the ones (later) to see the benefits.  Others cannot get past the fact that, once unleashed, war quickly loses its righteous appeal and becomes about simple survival, getting enough to eat, not freezing to death. staying a die-hard Republican RP 'lost the war' even if he won some battles, he should have denounced the Reps a few years ago and went 3rd party that could have been his real legacy that actually accomplished something, maybe not now but in a few years.

You are obviously a young person who doesn't know anything. 

FEDbuster's picture

Rand Paul is no Ron Paul. Rand will say or do anything to keep his senate seat.  He is a wanna be Neo-con, waiting to drop some of the "Dreams From His Father".  Let Jessie "Judas" Benton take over Rand's future campaigns.

Ron should announce he is running third party on Leno's show Tuesday night.  He still has $2.5 million in his warchest, and devout followers whom would get him on the ballot in most states.  Jessie Benton (who is married to RP's grand-daughter) should be fired for treason.  Let Lew Rockwell take over the the third party run campaign.  Let Ron go out as the "spoiler" for Mittens, it would serve the GOP right for how they treated Ron. Ron Paul and Judge Andrew Napolitano running on the "Liberty Party" or "Freedom Party" or "Common God Damn Sense Party"......


your neighbor's picture

wouldnt it be faster iand easier if he just became Gary Johnson's running mate?

FEDbuster's picture

That's an option, too.  Ron could drop $2.5 million into the Johnson campaign upon arrival.  Then raise a bunch more, maybe even get a super pac to back them.  They won't win, but boy would that upset the apple cart.  With the right message, they could pull 10-15% of the vote away from Obamney.

Michael's picture

Nice bump in view count even after this thread got stale.

Cathartes Aura's picture

it's simple - if you vote, you've given "them" space in your mind, opened to the door to pretending this system can be changed by a simple, lazy few minutes offering up an opinion on lousy "choices" (candidates).

you do this, you're stuck in their game. . . if you allow your mind to acknowledge the farce, the dishonesty, then you free up brain cells to pursue a deeper truth about the system we labour under. 

anything else is a mind capture - you're either "hopeful" one man can change a huge juggernaut that's been in motion since before any of you were born, or you tell yourself the truth(s) and learn to take action accordingly.

mendigo's picture

That is one of the two optimum outcomes in our single party system - congradulations you are a loser.
As a start it would be helpful if all of those who do not bother to vote would find thier way to register and vote for anyone other than the repubicrat candidates. Please, repeat after me:
I will register.
I will vote.
I will never under any circumstances vote for any republican or democratic candididate or surrogate thereof as long as I shall live.

koaj's picture

I had a foreign policy discussion last night at a bbq with family friends and parents of...mainly about blowback and false flags and potential government involvement. I got them to admit that our government may have had a hand in or advance knowledge or made up the Lusitania sinking, Pearl Harbor (advance code received on the attack), the Gulf of Tonkin, the Iraq/Iran war butat 9/11 everyone says NO WAY and still believes the official story.

I hate going down truther road because thats not my forte, but i did get 7-8 people to open their minds to things they never would have and more importantly to question their government

AG BCN's picture

You planted a seed, that's all that matters. Well done. 

koaj's picture

still amazes me how people who dont trust the CBO, BLS, FBI, or any politician would believe the official 911 story


i was working downtown when it happened so i saw the planes hit and felt them but i havent a clue as to why or how it could have happened. people hating us for our freedoms seems a bit ridiculous

Umh's picture

Our freedom had nothing to do with it. Maybe it was the cruise missiles that broke the camel's back.


FEDbuster's picture

"people hating us for our freedoms seems a bit ridiculous"

You think?

Email them these links to a couple of great "What If" videos:


FrankDrakman's picture

The idea that RP should start a 3rd party is beyond stupid. Once again, I ask my blinkered American friends to look NORTH. Little Stevie Harper won a majority government with 43% of the vote by allowing the LEFT to split its vote between our tired Liberals and our out of touch New Democrats.

The time for a right of centre 3rd party was 20 years ago, not today. Again, that matches what happened in Canada. After the collapse of the Mulroney Conservatives (who went from a majority to 2 - two! - seats), the right in Canada splintered between the old 'red' Tories and the new Reform party. It took a while, but eventually the right coalesced while the left disintegrated into the Liberals, the NDP, the separtist BQ, and the ludicrous Greens.

A much better strategy would be seed a new left wing party to steal votes from the Democrats. But I fear it's too late even for that. The American collapse is now too close, and too certain, for a new party to have any effect.

yes, bullets not ballots is going to be the deciding factor when the SHTF. No wonder the gov't has been stockpiling ammo.

Cloud9.5's picture

Had he started a third party, he would have handed the election to Obama just like Perot handed the presidency to Clinton.

CH1's picture

Who the hell cares?

Politics is for barbarians.

logically possible's picture

Who cares for the reason that their is no difference between Obama and Romney, they both have the same agenda.

Cloud9.5's picture

You may not like the comment, but look at the historical result of third parties.  The Bull Moose Party handed the presidency to Woodrow Wilson.  Dr. Paul brought a platform for smaller government to the party that claimed to be the party of smaller government and the oligarchs cheated him out of his day in the sun.  Dr. Paul did not approach the Republican Party as a spoiler or saboteur.   He approached the party with a legitimate agenda that represented his base.  The party insiders corrupted the process to place the Goldman Sachs candidate on the thrown. It was a coupe. Their reward may very well be the death of the Republican Party.


Political parties have a way of projecting images that are opposite to their core nature.  The Democratic Party is the party of former slave holders.  It was founded by a slave holder.  It claims to be the party of the working man but its agenda has done much to keep the underclass on the plantation.  The Republican Party was founded by a Federalist mascaraing as a populist.  He claimed to champion individual freedom while he suspended habeas corpus, killed hundreds of thousands of his countrymen and crushed states’ rights.


Both parties joined hands to strip the Bill of Rights from the Constitution when they passed and Obama signed into law the National Defense Authorization Act.  Both parties are now dominated by Federalist.


The oligarchs that rule this country are hard pressed.  A hundred million more rounds of hollow points will do little to drop the price of oil or reduce the deficit.  Another legion of Homeland Security will not bring rain to the heartland.  The bribes used to keep the oligarchs in power are losing their potency with every new printing.


The Rube Goldberg machine that is our modern day government can only be sustained by perpetual growth.  Dr. Paul knew that at some point the system would crash into the wall of natural limits.  He offered a reasoned solution.  That solution was rejected by the power brokers.  Now, a noisier, less reasoned solution will be found and in that solution may lie the death of one or both of the Good Old Boy Parties.   



CH1's picture

Cloud: I know you've put a lot of sincere thought into this and that you have arrived at reasoned conclusions. But...

IMO, there is a deeper look required - into the nature of the state itself. Many of us contend that it is, by nature, a parasitic, thieving, deceiving institution. And, because it is by NATURE such an organization, it should be discarded as a barbaric relic. We can do better and BE better apart from it.

You, of course, will have to consider this for yourself and arrive at your own conclusions.


Cloud9.5's picture

CH1 my friend, I wish I could place my faith in the noble savage and strive for a stateless society.  Unfortunately, I have lived long enough to discover what evil lies in the hearts of men.  There is a reason I willingly submit to the indignity of a stop light.  It is the simple desire to get through the intersection alive.   The Framers knew that they had to balance the demands of the mob on one hand and the dictates of the tyrant on the other.  The original compromise was the best I have seen.   The age old debate between the Jeffersonians and the Hamiltonians still rages.  For the moment the Hamiltonians hold the upper hand.  The hubris of all central planners lies in their assumption that they know enough to centrally plan.  Society is organic.  It is too complex.   The state provides some benefits in legally grounding a man’s right to life, liberty and property.  Safeguards must exist to protect the weak from the strong. The separation of powers, the federal system and the bold bright lines contained in the Bill of Rights were designed to reign in the state while keeping in check the dictatorship of the majority.  The state is parasitic and when it grows to the point that it kills the host then it too dies.   We are not at that point yet, but the balance between the states, the people and the federal government is out of kilter. That balance will be restored.

psychobilly's picture

"Unfortunately, I have lived long enough to discover what evil lies in the hearts of men."

Then why give a monopoly over all society to such evil?  The worst of them will eventually find their way to government office.  The demogogues. The hucksters.  The world improvers.  The most competent psychopaths.  Your cure is worse than the disease.  Pass.

Cloud9.5's picture


If you do not have a state then you have anarchy.  While it is thrilling to imagine a world like that found in Jericho, One Second After and Alas Babylon, societal collapse will not produce a world for old men or young children.  The novelty will wear off when the food runs out and the brigands show up.  The way to constrain the Leviathan is to cut the size of the beast.  We need to cut government spending by five percent every year for the next five years.  When we have done that, we can take pause and see where we are.  Growth is not sustainable.  The long contraction must be managed.  If it is not managed we collapse.  

IrritableBowels's picture

Glad you opted for the 'traffic at the intersection' analogy to discredit a freer society. Eat your heart out:

Papasmurf's picture

Perot had no intention of winning.  That's why he picked an old duffer for VP running mate.

Arkadaba's picture

Dishonest. The Canadian parliamentary system is very much different from the US system. Yes Harper won with a minority of popular vote and but he has an active opposition in parliament. Even with a majority. And there is room for third (and fourth) parties. And there is room for electoral reform especially with respect to ridings. 

That being said ... that this poster is actively advocating bullets - troll or government worker.

Very different political culture... this guy was voted Greatest Canadian Ever:

joe6px's picture

So your idea is that we swallow the least offensive poison instead of voting our free mind and conscience?  Shame on you.  Shame on any prostitute that sells their soul for a crumb of bread!  You are the reason our children will suffer!  Put on your pants and stand like a man damn you!

Cloud9.5's picture

Vote out incumbents. Take your revenge on sitting pols.  Vote for every independent, Occupy Wall Street, Tea Partier you can find.  Break the tag team parties.  Then you might regain your political voice.  Washington knew that political parties once entrenched would ruin the nation.

Ponzi_Scheme's picture

Mulroney was an ass hat crook like the fucker Peterson in Ontario. Both destroyed their parties with their corruption. Never charged but the people knew. A provincial MP explained to me it was all a out loyalty to the top and never question their agenda. They owed their success to the top of the ticket... That is Canadian politics. It is not local.

Turin Turambar's picture

I disagree.  I understand both sides of the argument.  Each has its points.  Ultimately, the United States is in dire need of an intellectual awakening, and those who are part of the Liberty movement are already awake.  I believe Dr. Paul was able to sow the seeds of liberty in a much broader field as a part of the Republican party, marginalized as he was.  I commend him and thank him for it.

brettd's picture

Spot on.

It's taken 100+ years to get here.  It's not going to revert in 10.

I suggest RP for Sec of Education, so we can start educating the next generation. 

Red Heeler's picture

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pies_lancuchowy's picture

he should have denounced the Reps a few years ago and went 3rd party that could have been his real legacy that actually accomplished something, maybe not now but in a few years.                              Well, funny thing is that he actually did it several years ago, you just can't remember that, being a 17-year old internet advisor to a 76-year-old Congressman. He has run for President without GOP , and accomplished NOTHING. 

HardAssets's picture

Youre right, of course. When he went 3rd party he got no media coverage and wasn't allowed in major televised debates either. So not only didnt he win, his message didn't get out to many people. - - Something else the kiddies don't know.

Dr. No's picture

A third party is not possible with the current electoral college majority to win election system.

Umh's picture

It's not the electoral college that makes the U.S. a two party system it's the fact that coalitions can't be formed after the election. This being the case in the U.S. coalitions are formed within the parties before the elections.

Dr. No's picture

Agreed. The electoral college just highlights exactly what you explained.

mkkby's picture

Does Ron Paul even believe any of this? I've never heard him say anything about preparedness or revolution. This is all words being put in his mouth by people with their own agendas.

RP has remained a republican. That means he probably believes in reforming the system, not tearing it down. Of course his organizers distance themselves from the radical element. RP probably wants to have nothing to do with them.

Too bad Ron Paul doesn't communicate more clearly. He has allowed himself to be everyone's mirror, instead of having his own voice. I've heard him say he doesn't even know what's on his web site.