Guest Post: Just A Holiday Reminder - Black Friday Is Utterly Meaningless

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Fri, 11/25/2011 - 14:01 | 1913368 HD
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"Black Friday Is Utterly Meaningless"

My wife doesn't think so...  I'm gonna need Germany to bail me out too.

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 14:05 | 1913381 end da fed
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Small Business Saturday ... buy local

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 14:09 | 1913399 spiral_eyes
Fri, 11/25/2011 - 14:10 | 1913405 end da fed
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or buy nothing


Fri, 11/25/2011 - 14:18 | 1913429 fonestar
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or buy something made out of steel made before the plastic crappola of the 1980's and give it as a gift.  I find that if you place an object like this in the hands of sheeple it reawakens a long since dormant recess of the sheep's mind.

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 14:22 | 1913450 end da fed
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or buy the yellow shiny stuff today... i hear it's on sale

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 14:39 | 1913485 nope-1004
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Just don't buy the junk out of China.

There is a reason why Chinese made goods are cheaper:  They're 100% JUNK.

In my line of work we spend a ton of time sourcing half decent shit to avoid downtime from breakage by using the crap coming from China.  Doesn't matter if it's commercial items, toys, games..... it's all junk made for landfills.


Fri, 11/25/2011 - 15:58 | 1913702 AldousHuxley
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Top one percent movie


filmmaker Jamie Johnson, a 27-year-old heir to the Johnson & Johnson pharmaceutical fortune explors the political, moral and emotional rationale that enables a tiny percentage of Americans - the one percent - to control nearly half the wealth of the entire United States. The film Includes interviews with Nicole Buffett, Bill Gates Sr., Adnan Khashoggi, Milton Friedman, Robert Reich, Ralph Nader and other luminaries.


Born Rich


Another documentary about being born into wealth with interviews with wealthy heirs. Made by Johnson & Johnson heir Jamie Johnson.

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 17:33 | 1913943 mayhem_korner
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Nicole Buffett, Bill Gates Sr., Adnan Khashoggi, Milton Friedman, Robert Reich, Ralph Nader and other luminaries.


LuminariesLittle too much tryptophan there, AH?

The most perplexing thing about the statist mindset is that the oppressed (victims) worship the so-called elites who perpetrate the ideology that oppresses them (TPTB).  Like the great luminary Michael Moore masquerading with the OWS crowd.

It's no wonder it's pointless debating this element.  It's completely circular and self-defeating in its rationale.

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 18:04 | 1914007 AldousHuxley
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sorry copy and paste. forget lumineries ....just interviews.

No one can lead a revolution, but people must wake up. Too bad, walmart selling some Chinese junk in small town that was used to be made in that same small town USA can attract people to wake up at 5am and stand in line just to save few bucks than the rednecks truely understanding why they are so desparate and asking more responsibility from those in power.


Just because michael moore shits everyday doesn't mean you have to hold shit in. It is ok to shit....on elites....for now.




Fri, 11/25/2011 - 19:54 | 1914113 Bananamerican
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"most Americans have either forgotten what actual quality is or they have never experienced it"

these amnesiacs (or youthful sinophiles) even pop up here on ZH...

along with our current culture and politics, amerika's trade deficit with china remains a testament to the craptastic adaptability of human beings to settle for bullshit.

Sat, 11/26/2011 - 03:41 | 1914800 geekgrrl
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Thanks! That was an awesome film. I liked watching all those great shots of squirmy rich people caught on film trying to justify their insatiable greed. Friedman definitely stole the show though. I really can't believe anyone ever listened to that guy.

Sat, 11/26/2011 - 12:21 | 1915177 ElvisDog
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I went to Corky Carroll's Surf School in Costa Rica in 2004 and met one of the Johnson & Johnson heirs. I forget his name but he was probably 10 or 11 at that time. He was actually a nice kid but was clearly kind of lonely. We sat by the pool one afternoon and talked about movies.

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 16:33 | 1913804 AldousHuxley
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While Americans are mindlessly buying Chinese junk with government debt money, Chinese are creating partnerships in Africa opening up new markets for their manufactured goods. Western colonialist must do better than just exploit Africa for raw materials. US must do better than install dictactors to steal oil.

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 17:45 | 1913918 LouisDega
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I just bought a Slinky. Still made in the good ol USA invented by Richard T. James, a naval engineer at an investment of $500. Over 250 million slinkys sold as of today. Only in the USA

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 18:09 | 1914012 AldousHuxley
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good for you.


however, multinational retail outlets like Walmart only carry chinese made PLASTIC shit they got for 5 cents wholesale selling it for $5.


Toys are one of China's largest exports.


It is institutional level problem. G20 says we are going to fuck blue collar workers up the ass and that's what they got for last 30 years. They kids grew up and went to college trying to avoid this and then got fucked too in the ass with worthless college degrees and white collar jobs outsourced and H1B'ed.

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 19:59 | 1914116 Bananamerican
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around our house, China is known as the land of broken toys and American boys' hearts.

Even my 6 year old has figured out that China=crap.

They make things that "look" like actual products but disintegrate upon use.

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 21:05 | 1914217 Savvy
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But those blue collar workers were unionized, can't have people with a right to a living wage. That's ...socialism!

Sat, 11/26/2011 - 22:13 | 1916521 StychoKiller
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There's a reason that brain surgeons make a crapton of FRNs -- check your premises.

Also, perhaps your Big Brother is partly to blame:


Fri, 11/25/2011 - 14:18 | 1913431 johnu78
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In the following video I share my thoughts on the Stupidity of Black Friday:



Fri, 11/25/2011 - 17:58 | 1913994 prains
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bring on the wafer thin mint

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 14:12 | 1913408 Hugh_Jorgan
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Assuming it truly IS local. Not to mention, buying the same cheap overseas merch from a local outlet is better than from a big chain, but it doesn't change the fundamental problem in the American psyche. The fruit of 4 more years with BHO might though...

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 14:05 | 1913385 trav7777
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fuck XMas.

fuck standing in lines with herds of lemmings to buy consumer merchandise

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 14:36 | 1913492 nope-1004
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I agree 100%.  The day of the Lord has been turned into a shopping spree all clamoring for Chinese JUNK.  Utterly shallow.


Fri, 11/25/2011 - 14:45 | 1913513 TheAkashicRecord
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I have always pondered how some religions treat the role of man in the context of nature and how that can underlie political and economic institutions and philosophies.

For example, is man a part of nature or is he above nature?  Is the the external world there for stewardship for our domination? 

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 16:56 | 1913871 AldousHuxley
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Nobody got rich by spending money on consumer goods.


You may feel rich, but consumer goods have no ROI and depreciate the moment you walk out of the store.... That's why rich people always buy rare things that keep up with inflation. only people you fool with "stuff" are just dumbasses and gold diggers.


But government who gets revenue from sales taxes and multinational businesses want you to spend your $10 on junk that goes for $1 in China.



Fri, 11/25/2011 - 17:43 | 1913963 mayhem_korner
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The hypocrisy of the environmentalist is that he puts himself (man) at the center (and vehemently denies it).  That is, the "environment," the "external world," and "nature" are all defined as one's surroundings, thus placing oneself as the point of reference. It's man's natural instinct to do that.

Christianity recognizes that we are not at the center, and asks that we relinquish that view and submit to a higher authority.  The Creator is greater than the Creation.

Revisit your theological premise by testing out where man and nature originate.

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 22:22 | 1914405 geekgrrl
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I don't think you have even the slightest understanding of how most environmentalists view the world. To many environmentalists I know, nature herself is the higher authority, not some fictional father figure, and certainly not humanity. There are a wide range of views, obviously, just like there is within religions, but I subscribe to the view of ecocentric holism, or deep ecology. In such a view, nature itself is at the center, not people. That is to say, god is immanent in nature, not some transcendental apparition in a secret undisclosed region of space referred to as heaven.

If you're going to make a strawman argument, it's really helpful not to make ridiculous claims about people you've obviously made little attempt to understand. How a person views themselves vis-a-vis the environment is not instinctual. This is so obvious to anyone who doesn't hold status quo views, but very difficult to see for folks who rationalize their particular opinions by invoking claims that it's "man's natural instinct. But it's not. It's learned, and it can be unlearned.

If one is looking for hypocrisy, it is inconceivable to come even remotely close to the staggering levels of hypocrisy practiced by Christians over the last 2000 years. I'm too lazy to make a detailed list of offenses, but I'll just point out that the dominion of the Earth granted to humanity in Genesis is the root source of our ejection from Eden. It wasn't that we ate the fruit of knowledge, it was that we started playing god. Manifest Destiny is alive and well in the world these days, and we are about to find the limits to our epistemological fallacies that are part and parcel of mainstream views about nature.

Sat, 11/26/2011 - 08:11 | 1914895 mayhem_korner
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...(and vehemently denies it).

Tue, 11/29/2011 - 01:06 | 1924150 geekgrrl
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Can you elaborate? I am genuinely interested in your perspective, but I'm not sure what you're trying to say.

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 15:40 | 1913661 Taint Boil
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Two dollar waffle makers  ..... Perfect example of the idiot Walmart Americans .... about sums it up. Yeah, fuck Xmas

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 17:43 | 1913964 Animal Cracker
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Cheap waffle makers being fought over by people who probably eat every meal at a fast food joint.




To anyone who's "fighting for our freedom"...this is what we're doing with it.  

Sat, 11/26/2011 - 12:28 | 1915188 ElvisDog
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Exactly. Making waffles takes effort. I guarentee you the fat-asses in that video eat frozen waffles that they just pop into the toasters. I can't think of a more horrifying-annoying-fascinating job than working at a Walmart on Black Friday. Just make sure you stand clear of the doors.

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 17:46 | 1913970 Animal Cracker
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A gave you a +1 even though you're just jealous of my $2 waffle maker.  Get in the Holiday spirit, bub...pepper spray someone go git sum!

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 21:10 | 1914223 Savvy
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Fuck xmas indeed. I make my xmas gifts, last year it was emergency kits for vehicles. Okay, I still had to buy the contents (mylar blanket, hand crank flashlight, first aid kit, energy bars, matches, lighter, etc) but was cheap overall and done in July.

Sat, 11/26/2011 - 01:20 | 1914667 smiler03
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+1  I bet the kids are delighted. ARSON KIT!!

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 16:57 | 1913875 Andy_Jackson_Jihad
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"Black Friday Is Utterly Meaningless"

My wife doesn't think so...  I'm gonna need Germany to bail me out too."


And the first post is the thread winner!

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 19:38 | 1914105 krispkritter
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Quote of the day:  ‎"It's a good move to try to get shoppers to spend sooner, before they run out of money," says Burt Flickinger, III, president of retail consultancy Strategic Resource Group.

I'd swear this is Yogi Berra talking...

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 21:23 | 1914250 Black Friday
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I'd like to think I'm not utterly useless, partially perhaps...:p

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 14:04 | 1913384 SheepDog-One
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I loaded up on pepper spray too, gun shows are great for that. I can buy 5 of those big Alaska bear spray cans for about $30.

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 15:00 | 1913564 Carlyle Groupie
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Plus this must have little guy.

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 15:42 | 1913664 Bansters-in-my-...
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Pepper Spray  has an EXPIRY date on them.

I would pay CLOSE  attention to it ,if depending on it.

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 14:08 | 1913398 The Axe
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i didn't know that you could pepper-spray people....tasring would be good this sounds like fun..wish I went !!!!

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 14:10 | 1913404 Manthong
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the market sucks..

No matter how good your calls are or how well you play it close, they still find a way to screw you.

After the reset, they can have it back.

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 14:02 | 1913371 Stoploss
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Anybody seeing what just hapened? A massive dump just occured A/H

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 14:05 | 1913387 GeneMarchbanks
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To be expected we've been making lower lows... not 'massive' though... 1160 holds .... ... for now.

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 14:05 | 1913388 HD
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I believe that's normal after thanksgiving...

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 14:02 | 1913373 Snakeeyes
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Agreed. Europe is melting down. Big push for Germany and France (and US) to bailout EVERYONE!!!!!! Then we are dead.

Europe's "Sick Sevens" - Sovereign 10 Year Debt Yields Above 7% (And Spain. Belgium Teetering on the Brink)

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 14:02 | 1913375 jcaz
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But...... Joe Biden said go out and buy stuff.......

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