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Guest Post: Letter To George Washington, Regarding Paul Krugman

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Tue, 08/16/2011 - 18:18 | 1566956 Cognitive Dissonance
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WAR. (What is it good for?)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bX7V6FAoTLc

BTW I love shotgun rants. Blood all over the place, bodies parts here and there, just a tangled mess. Come to think of it, it's sort of like WAR.

Tue, 08/16/2011 - 18:27 | 1566990 anynonmous
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deLong lobbied Blodget

let me tell you

Business Inisder is backed by Huffington Post co-founder Ken Lerer

and that says it all

 

Tue, 08/16/2011 - 18:47 | 1567055 trav7777
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We have always been at war with Eastasia

Tue, 08/16/2011 - 18:59 | 1567088 A Nanny Moose
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+Minitrue

Tue, 08/16/2011 - 19:30 | 1567174 spiral_eyes
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war is nothing.

blue beam, bitchez.

real fucken stimulus.

http://azizonomics.com/2011/08/16/krugman-calls-for-alien-invasion/ 

Wed, 08/17/2011 - 02:59 | 1568112 The Peak Oil Poet
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this story is about a bloke
who thought he'd save us all
an economic genius
with vision and with gall

 

http://thepeakoilpoet.blogspot.com/2011/08/ode-to-paul-krugman.html

Tue, 08/16/2011 - 21:39 | 1567524 TheFourthStooge-ing
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+ Doubleplusgoodminitrue

 

Tue, 08/16/2011 - 19:03 | 1567104 PY-129-20
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Ve vant ze gold back, Bernanke! Or ve'll cut off your chonson!

Tue, 08/16/2011 - 20:40 | 1567327 Problem Is
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"Yeah and maybe we stomp on it and squoosh it, Bernanke..."

"Ve vant ze gold, Bernanke..."

"Ja and no funny stuff..."

Tue, 08/16/2011 - 20:45 | 1567354 redpill
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Nice marmut, man.

Tue, 08/16/2011 - 21:18 | 1567475 Dooud
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Its Down there somewhere.

Tue, 08/16/2011 - 19:06 | 1567114 MrPalladium
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Too friggin shay!!

Tue, 08/16/2011 - 19:40 | 1567181 mr_T
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There's no buisness like war buisness I know (pause chorus for my cane and hat act) .... I wish I was skiing in Chile now... I miss valle Nevada ... It's hot out here....fool

Tue, 08/16/2011 - 21:39 | 1567511 aldousd
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I worked for a company for 10 years (against my moral judgement, but I let my checkbook speak louder than my brain until january of this year,) that was a defense contractor that claimed to provide innovative capabilities to government... I saw a participant in the very small network of 'you hire me I hire you to hire the guy across the street to hire me' produce nothing but 'reports' and 'feasibility studies' on crap that delivered nothing but documented crap to the government burn through 12 billion dollars in government 'directed funding' in the 10 years I was there.  If the previous experience of the company prior to my arrival were the same (and I have no reason to believe it wasn't,) that means they exhausted roughly 15 billion dollars on actually... nothing other than keeping local people employed in an election buying boondoggle.  We don't need 'official' stimulus to burn cash on creating ditch digging jobs... just look at your local government contractor... and their sub-sub-sub contractors... who sometimes end up being themselves... on the same projects.

 

edit: and I'll add that the 'quota' system established by the government to ensure that 'minority companies' and 'small disadvantaged businesses' also receive a chunk of the action... also sets up a bunch of middle men to receive some of the action... but they in turn source the prime company for some of the work and this actually means that a shit ton of extra money goes into the politically correct matrix, and ends up feeding the same mouths that would have had the money in the first place.  Note that feasibility studies (a specialty of my former employer,) are actually equal pay for those who produce nothing (and say it's impossible) as those who figure out a way to solve the problem.  How incredibly 'egaitarian' of our government!

Wed, 08/17/2011 - 08:33 | 1568380 tarsubil
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It would be interesting to see how much money is spent on reports. I worked at NIH and was amazed after reading a fairly worthless report that the price tag was $500K. Why not just print off 150 blank pages with a nice looking cover page and buy me a Ferrari? That would be more productive.

Tue, 08/16/2011 - 18:30 | 1566998 Ahmeexnal
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War, the ultimate goal of the welfare state.

Socializing death and destruction.

To the benefit of the ruling elite.

Tue, 08/16/2011 - 18:35 | 1567020 Fish Gone Bad
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Death is always better when it happens to someone else.

Tue, 08/16/2011 - 18:31 | 1567002 Cheesy Bastard
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bodies parts here and there, just a tangled mess. Come to think of it, it's sort of like WAR

Or twister.

Tue, 08/16/2011 - 20:16 | 1567256 knukles
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One man's pet stained carpet is another man's Twister.

Tue, 08/16/2011 - 22:19 | 1567635 Cheesy Bastard
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Right foot brown.

Tue, 08/16/2011 - 18:32 | 1567005 Yardstick of Ci...
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That was the title of my law review note . . . .

ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!

Tue, 08/16/2011 - 19:07 | 1567117 A Nanny Moose
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Kruggybear seems to be forgetting the 5 or 6 wars we are alerady fighting.

If war is what he wants, then Kruggybear can go first. I will be right behind him.

Tue, 08/16/2011 - 20:13 | 1567247 wisefool
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Yeah, I am one of the villiage idiots here, but this had me scratching my head too.

5+ hot wars. Dozens more intelligence theaters. 24x7 spy game grab ass over technology with our "freinds" and our "enemies". Plus homeland operations against tea party terror causing, hostage taking, hobbits. Then there are the folks that drink raw milk. Plus the war on drugs.

663.8 blillion defense budget in 2010. according to wikipedia, probably 30% more in actuality. And thatis just DoD.

Hillary and Panetta had a foriegn policy press conference today, that really looked like a awards banquet for the "whose who" of the NoVa defense/intelligence executives.

How much money do we need to spend and how many people need to be getting snuff'ed before kruggers things we are in proper war?

Tue, 08/16/2011 - 22:05 | 1567597 TheFourthStooge-ing
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How much money do we need to spend

All of it.

and how many people need to be getting snuff'ed

Enough of the bottom ninety percent to result in an unemployment rate of three to four percent.

before kruggers things we are in proper war?

Krugs is posing and posturing for a second Sveriges Riksbank "Nobel" Prize in Economic "Sciences".

 

Tue, 08/16/2011 - 23:18 | 1567785 Oh regional Indian
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Surprised no one mentioned the Broken Window Fallacy so far. It is after all the Keyensian Bedrock.

Destroy so you may rebuild, designed obsolosence so you must re-buy.

Broken Windows, FTW!

ORI

http://aadivaahan.wordpress.com/2011/08/16/pre-cursor-2-and-currents/

Wed, 08/17/2011 - 01:20 | 1568037 combatsnoopy
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Krugman, like Dubya- show how easy it is to run logical fallacies by the general public.  The main one is "appeal to authority".  Then of course we have the very popular "appeal to ignorance", this sounds like a possible straw man, False dichotomy and begging the question.  

An Intermediate English writer can have a hayday by making their students point out ALL of the fallacies in Krugman's work.  It should be required in place of a GPA score for college admissions.  

Wed, 08/17/2011 - 08:22 | 1568346 V10
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Same kind of economic brilliance that trumpets construction starts in California after an earthquake or Florida after a hurricane.

By that logic, I have a guaranteed plan for economic recovery:

Step 1) Evacuate several major cities

Step 2) Bomb them to rubble

Step 3) Rebuild them

With my plan, we get a double dose of stimulus, first from the massive expenditure on munitions for the military, followed by demand on the construction trades that make the best years of the housing boom look like a Saturday afternoon spent building a tree fort.

You're welcome.

Wed, 08/17/2011 - 08:41 | 1568403 tarsubil
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My God man! Don't give them any ideas!

Wed, 08/17/2011 - 10:27 | 1568757 old naughty
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so it is why cheapos from China were made NOT to last so they can sell more...implicit in buying them is acceptance. And so both/all parties are CON-spired to the design.

So it is with the broken windows...wondered if that was the reason no one mentioned it.

Thanks for sharing.

Tue, 08/16/2011 - 20:22 | 1567278 knukles
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Echos the uber-leftie line apropos QE and Shovel Ready Stimulus.  Had we done more, the Messiah Coulda Healed Us By Now (Heal. Heal I say, Heal!) we'd be not be in this fucking mess, all'd be well, holding hands, singing Kumbayah.

One more war, one more war, one more war.

Tue, 08/16/2011 - 20:29 | 1567297 nmewn
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"One more war, one more war, one more war."

Ooobahma...Ooobahma...Ooobahma!

Tue, 08/16/2011 - 22:08 | 1567606 TheFourthStooge-ing
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One more war, one more war, one more war.

Just one more hit and I'll feel better. Just one more hit and I know I'll feel alright. Just one more hit...

 

Tue, 08/16/2011 - 19:09 | 1567125 jo6pac
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I'm the far left and these are not my friends. I asked delong once if he’s ever had a real job before.

Thanks for the video CD

 

Tue, 08/16/2011 - 19:38 | 1567185 Dick Fitz
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Just curious Jo6pac-

Are you inclined to support Ron Paul? I've got several leftish (and one VERY left) friends, and several of them are so disappointed with Obama that they have brought RP in conversation, saying that as long as he will get us out of Iraq and quit giving money to the banksters, they will vote for him.

Tue, 08/16/2011 - 19:45 | 1567202 Debtless
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Though it's only top of the third inning - i'd be willing to give Paul a serious look from my leftist view. Obama was obviously not the right answer - and given the otherwise substantial lack of choice. Liberty is quite catchy.

Tue, 08/16/2011 - 20:30 | 1567288 Dick Fitz
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I've gotten quite excited (and somewhat disconcerted) by the positive feedback I've gotten from my lefty friends. I was a hardcore socialist in college, and I'm still VERY liberal- hell, it's hard to be a nerdy gay Republican- but Ron Paul changed my outlook, slowly but surely. It took a while, but once I grokked the basics and simplicity (but not simplistic by any means) of the message, it really opened my POV. I have some major issues- abortion, social benefits, health care- but I'm starting to understand how all of those are tied into "the liberty thing" and am still refining my understanding.

I will say that a few years of casual study of Austrian economic theory has been far more rewarding than the years I spent toiling in college on my econ minor. I think UNlearning shit was the hardest part!

The thing that intrigued me was an argument I read about gay marriage, one of my big issues. His simple response- get government out of marriage, and make ALL marriages civil unions- hit me like a brick. How can someone be so liberal and at the same time the most conservative person in the bunch?

Tue, 08/16/2011 - 20:47 | 1567364 Bullionaire
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UNlearning the fake lib-con paradigm, eh?

 

Good for you, Richard.  Welcome aboard.

 

 

Tue, 08/16/2011 - 22:20 | 1567637 TheFourthStooge-ing
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UNlearning the fake lib-con paradigm, eh?

Good for you, Richard.  Welcome aboard.

Agreed. It's never been about left vs right, liberal vs conservative, or republican vs democrat. It's been about what's best for the country vs what's best for the Party. (Yes, there is only one Party, and it will do anything it can to convince you otherwise.)

 

Tue, 08/16/2011 - 23:00 | 1567742 Dick Fitz
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Yeah, I'm seeing that now. BOTH parties just want their vig, screw the rest of us. Welfare, something I deeply believe in, has had a horrible effect on society, so decentralizing it seems like a good idea. 5 minutes of Maury Povich (once I started to see the idea from another POV) convinced me of that.

Rick Perry will say ANYTHING to get elected- he's hitting Ron Paul's buzzwords so he can win. Fuck that piece of shit. Google "Gardisil Perry Merck"- he's a sellout shill.

I told a friend of mine (a republican) that I wasn't sure the right side won the civil war (back to the decentralization/antiwar thing) and he nearly bit my head off. No amount of reason or facts (this went on for days via email) would persuade him.

Reps are just as ignorant and stubborn as Dems.

Tue, 08/16/2011 - 21:34 | 1567500 Temporalist
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I think he explained his personal belief of the abortion issue very succintly the other night and you can watch for yourself.  One premise is that law itself is always on the side of the unborn except when the mother wants to abort it.  If he, as an obgyn, kills a baby anywhere throughout a pregnancy he's liable for murder.  If the mother is in a car accident the other driver could get manslaughter if the baby is killed (and I am using the term baby but it could be embryo or what be it). 

Starts 9:40

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8vc2Q0_f5M

 

And while it's hard to agree with someone that doesn't belive in evolution...if these are his two perceived flaws it's far lessa problem than unethical, lying kleptocrats trying to stay in power.

 

What I think it Ron Pauls best asset is that he's stayed on message since the last election, was consistenly right, every Tea Partier knows who he is, the same message repeated over and over and the most people that now know his stances can explain them to people that are misinformed or brainwashed.

 

Incidentally during the Terri Schiavo dustup his stance was to stay out of the hospital room too.

Tue, 08/16/2011 - 21:39 | 1567525 Rodent Freikorps
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Did you know Perry is on record saying marriage, including gay marriage, is a state issue, and the Feds should get bent, as the 10th Ammendment intended?

Wed, 08/17/2011 - 08:49 | 1568429 tarsubil
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Perry will fit in in Washington.

Tue, 08/16/2011 - 23:10 | 1567764 TimmyM
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Dick Fitz-
This is what scares the oligarchs so much. If RP gets the nomination, the crossover vote is powerful. Ironic, claiming his inelectibilty is a fraud.

Wed, 08/17/2011 - 01:22 | 1568038 combatsnoopy
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You're begging the question.  A true republican will find out how to fix things in the private sector.  

Tue, 08/16/2011 - 23:00 | 1567741 Reggie Middleton
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So, I take it that I'm considered the "riff raff" by the mainstream, eh?

Tue, 08/16/2011 - 23:03 | 1567752 Dick Fitz
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Reggie, anyone outside the dialectic is RiffRaff to these people. I think you're cool!!!

Thanks for your posts- I've really learned a lot.

Tue, 08/16/2011 - 18:20 | 1566958 macholatte
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How can you get any new ideas when the political gang goes to the same schools and gets taught by the same professors?  Then there is the merry-go-round of professors going into government and then back to school and then back to government. Recently, many have done some time over at the Soros schools of Media Matters and Center for American Progress before allowed to infect the population.

Tue, 08/16/2011 - 19:01 | 1567097 A Nanny Moose
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Merry-go-round? How about circle jerk?

Tue, 08/16/2011 - 21:00 | 1567405 rosiescenario
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...daisy chain??????

Tue, 08/16/2011 - 23:36 | 1567828 BrosMacManus
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double dutch rudder

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