Guest Post: Man Tries To Relinquish US Citizenship. Application Denied

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Submitted by Simon Black of Sovereign Man

Man Tries To Relinquish US Citizenship. Application Denied

I was approached recently by a member of our Sovereign Man community who filed the paperwork to relinquish US citizenship some time ago. Long story short, after an incomprehensibly long wait, the US government finally sent him a reply: Application DENIED.

Absolutely shocking. That you even have to ‘apply’ to relinquish what you never signed up for is intellectually insulting. That you cannot do so freely, and immediately, is nothing short of totalitarian.

It’s still an embryonic movement, though more and more US citizens are being driven to divorce their country. Last year nearly 1,600 people gave up US citizenship, up from 1,485 in 2010, 731 in 2009, and 226 in 2008.

While some renunciants have philosophical misgivings about being American, most do it for tax reasons. There’s a growing number of expats who, despite living abroad for years, are still paying huge portions of their income to Uncle Sam.

What’s more, the filing requirements are getting more and more onerous. US citizens living overseas have to keep up with all sorts of changes to the tax code that they may not be privy to, and the penalties for noncompliance are severe.

I can’t tell you how many friends I have who are US citizens living abroad that had no idea they were supposed to file the Report of Foreign Bank Account (FBAR) form every year; or the new FATCA form 8938; or those with businesses that must file form 8858 or 5471.

Usually these things come with pretty nasty penalties, possibly up to $10,000 per instance of failure to file.

Then there’s the latest, greatest tax target: accidental US citizens. This group consists of foreigners who happen to be dual nationals because they were born in the US or have an American parent.

These foreigners have spent their entire lives outside the US.  They know absolutely nothing about US tax code. Now they’re getting Dear John letters from the US government saying-

“I see you are a US citizen but have never filed your taxes. Please enclose a check for the following absurd amount of money, which includes interest and penalties for the last 20-years…”

Such tactics smack of desperation… typical of the same sorts of cannibalistic moves that failing, bankrupt governments throughout history have exacted upon their people.

Citizenship is nothing more than accident of birth. Yet in the modern nation-state paradigm, governments lay claim to citizens from the time they’re born as if we’re property.

Children are saddled with obligations that they never signed up for– taxes, compulsory military service, a debilitating national debt, etc.

Most countries at least have procedures to voluntarily surrender citizenship for those who choose to opt out of the system; in the United States, it is contained in section 349 of the Immigration and Nationality Act.

The process usually takes place overseas at a US consulate– you have to fill out a series of forms, swear an oath in front of a government official, and eventually file a final tax return. Some people even have to pay a steep ‘exit tax’ on the value of their assets.

I know dozens who have done this, and from what my friends tell me, many of the consular officials attempt to impugn, insult, or otherwise intimidate people looking to surrender their citizenship. It’s their last-ditch effort to keep the milk cows from escaping the dairy farm.

For example, one official tried terrorizing a friend of mine last year in South Africa, saying, “This smells like TAX EVASION to me!”

Despite all the forms, the bureaucracy, and the intimidation tactics, I had never heard of a case where someone’s properly submitted ’application’ to surrender citizenship has been denied (bar Ken O’Keefe). Until now.

But in what may be the most distinguishing mark of a totalitarian state, the US government has now officially prevented someone from freely leaving the system. The Soviet Union comes to mind.

It certainly does make one wonder to what desperate lows they will sink to next.

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hedgeless_horseman's picture



Sometimes, I would like to relinquish my membership in the human race.  My wife is an Equestrian from the planet Oblivion.  Do I have dual citizenship rights?

LFMayor's picture

Islam mean Piece.  

at least up until 6 hours postmortum.

vast-dom's picture

But the clause is that if you sodomize your dead wife you get beheaded! Arab progress on sex!

hedgeless_horseman's picture



So, it is ok with you (and most of America) to sodomize your living boyfriend, but not your dead wife?

vast-dom's picture

I say sodomize everyone! So long as they are wiling participants and I'm on top ;)

hedgeless_horseman's picture



Ben Bernanke, I knew it was you!

vast-dom's picture

and i gently whispered into her rigamortised ear, "one last time habibti, one last time..."

Harbanger's picture

".. it commences after about three to four hours, reaches maximum stiffness after 12 hours, and gradually dissipates until approximately 48 to 60 hours (two and a half days) after death.[2] Warm conditions and physically strenuous activity can speed up the process.."

The Big Ching-aso's picture



Hoary Shit!    We're turning in a giant Hotel California.

Ratscam's picture

You can check out but you can never leave....
Waiting list in Switzerland is so long that all the slots of 2012 are filled.
I know of people who travel to Vienna or Budapest to give back their US passports at the embassy. Faster process.

Element's picture

"There are no 'States' at all, there are only giant 'human-farms', farming the humans, and the farmer has chosen to call the livestock, 'Citizens'."

- Stefan Molyneux (paraphrased)

Bastiat's picture

Blankfein is that you?

Manthong's picture

Geez... it's not like they're talking about having sex with their dead children or anything.

This is just a normal part of Islam where any guy from the goat farm can be a mullah and make up holy customs.  

vast-dom's picture

they already had the dead goat sodomy act inacted years ago....

hedgeless_horseman's picture



Take your divide and conquer tactics elsewhere, please.

Ever read the Koran, Bible, or Torah?  Muslims, Christians, and Jews all worship and pray to the same God, the God of Abraham.


vast-dom's picture

HAHAHAAA well if it's a BESTSELLER, then i guess it must be good!


All faiths are totally FOS! Just like FIAT, just like Teh FED and da IRS! 


So take your lowgrade opining and uh know what to do in your heart of hearts....

hedgeless_horseman's picture



We get it.  The US government needs to have its citizens hate the Muslims so that we are ok with invading their nations and taking their natural resources.

For me, Freedom, Liberty, and Private Property are meaningless unless they apply to all.

Watch this video and change your perception.

Pure Evil's picture

Unless, of course, its Vast-Dom's liberty to make jokes about Mooslims and goats.

swamp's picture

ALL, as in women too, or ALL as in the usual men only?

Comay Mierda's picture

all worship and pray to the same God

you better be careful with that doctrine.  the great deception is coming

Aquarius: The Age of Evil

hedgeless_horseman's picture



You have a different interpretation of Genesis and of Matthew 6:9-13?

Jesus said,


"This, then, is how you should pray: "
'Our Father in heaven, hallowed be thy name.
your kingdom come, your will be done on earth as it is in heaven.
Give us today our daily bread.
Forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors.
And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from the evil one.'

hedgeless_horseman's picture



A webpage with a Southern Baptist version of The Apostle's Creed, an ancient Christian creed, is somehow supposed to expose the evil one?  I do not see how, but that would be great!

Likstane's picture

I state with utmost confidence(willing to bet my earthly life), that your god is not the same as my God.

hedgeless_horseman's picture



Before you do that, maybe you should know who my God is.  My God is the the God of Abraham.

Who is your God?

Likstane's picture

If your god is not Jesus Christ, then your god is ultimately just yourself.  Using your statement regarding Jews and Muslims having the same god as Christians makes it very clear you are decieved.  Since you are not my God, I must conclude your god is not my God.  Pretty simple conclusion, really.

hedgeless_horseman's picture



I have read your post, above, and have come to the conclusion that you are drunk.  I am cool with that.  I am known to have a drink or two myself.

Maybe when you are sober, you would study Genesis and Matthew 6:9-13?  As a Christian, do you study the Bible?  Do you say the Lord's Prayer?  Who are you praying to if you do?

Jesus said,


"This, then, is how you should pray: "


'Our Father in heaven, hallowed be thy name.
your kingdom come, your will be done on earth as it is in heaven.
Give us today our daily bread.
Forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors.
And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from the evil one.'

Disintermediate: Take your pastor/priest/rabbi/mullah out from between you and God.

Read scripture (preferably when you are sober) and pray on it.

Peace be with you.

Likstane's picture

I'm not at peace with drunkards.  I'm not on the same team with you.  You are the enemy if you are "cool" with being drunk.  1 Cor. 6:10 shows you where you are headed.

hedgeless_horseman's picture



I know Paul's writings that you quote. 

Take out the intermediary for a moment to know Jesus Christ's actions and words regarding wine.

The Wedding at Cana: John 2:1-11.

New Wine in New Wineskins: Luke 5:37-38; Mark 2:22.

Is Old Wine is Better? Luke 5:39.

Matthew 11:19;

Luke 7:34.

The Communion Wine: Matthew 26:26-29;

Mark 14:22-25; Luke 22:14-23.

vast-dom's picture

yeah man that's the very same bullshit that backs our fiat currency. IN GOD WE TRUST that's what Benny says when he hits CNTRL+P and your daily bread and debts go the fuck up!

koperniuk666's picture

fuck off god bothering fairy tale believing twat. This is a blog for intelligent people.

Religion is part of the problem - busy body righteous tell-us-what- to- do cunts.

just like politicians. Same bunch , different names.


hedgeless_horseman's picture



So all intelligent people, like you, do not believe in God?

Who here has told you what to do with a religious basis?

nmewn's picture

I'm just wondering how many fires I can start tonight.

So, as an atheist, you have accumulated all evidence & knowledge about this world, in fact the universe...and have come to the conclusion that there is no God...that about right?

Yet, seeing as how it is impossible for man to "know everything" you must be declaring something about yourself here that I can't quite lay my finger

It seems to require faith in your belief, if you are just a man ;-)


As an aside, I love the current meme of the hour...render unto Caesar...all the while withholding the entire passage. Its like trying to deify government

Almost as good I my brothers keeper?...the seed of which is deception, a lie.

Anyways, to the point of this marvelous  article (after this slight diversion)...I always thought it a requirement that every sovereign man have several government issued ID's, in order to render unto Caesar ;-)

Element's picture

argh, you just need to get into the spirit of this a little nmewn!  Something to raise your morale:

nmewn's picture morale remains quite high as we venture further down the rabbit hole of prejudice and ignorance, dodging the little hobbit-like creatures encountered along the way...I remain convinced (ultimately) that truth always prevails as it doesn't need modification or nuance...

I freely admit, I do have fun exposing left leaning morality plays for what they are. The ones that are based on an emotional appeal to ones religion are a favorite of the statist mind...sinister, cunning, always deceptive in the desire for control.

Life is a funny thing and in the venture toward "truth" one side or the other...may be confronted with uncomfortable truths that they themselves have to reconcile. Roger Penrose stumbled on to one of those himself in search of confirmation.

He put the number at 1010123 to 1 ;-)

nmewn's picture

Oh yes, no doubt.

Evil will use whatever tactic necessary to meet its ends, lying, cheating, stealing, murder...blasphemy they don't even blink at...makes no difference, afterall, they are evil. If one is an ignorant fool and just accepts that someone is doing "God's work" without question and not looking at deeds...well they get exactly what's comin to them for being an ignorant fool.

But now we have exposed evil, we see its face, we know its there. So, like everything in life, there is a polar opposite.


Myself, I try to be good, hardly what my ideal of righteous is, but just like most people its a work in progress ;-)

Svener's picture

Ummmm, priests are men
Them dicks

Uncle Remus's picture

Oh, you mean like the trailer-park bishop in Florida who decided burning other religions scripture is a good custom to start? Which, apparently, some low-brow active-duty disciples in Kabul decided was a good idea.

Theosebes Goodfellow's picture

Well Manthong, you are correct. Sex with dead kiddies is strictly verbotten, but banging barnyard animals is a completely different matter. In fact the late Grand Ayatollah had something to say about owning goats, having sex with them and their disposition after. To wit:


Is there a proper Muslim way to have sex with animals? Indeed, there is! Guidelines for sex with animals can be found in the writings of Ayatollah Khomeini. Two excerpts from his writings serve to clarify the matter.

"A man can have sex with sheep, cows and camels and so on. However, he should kill the animal after he has his orgasm. He should not sell the meat to the people in his own village; however, selling the meat to the next door village should be fine." Don't the buyers deserve a discount of some kind?

Khomeini's "Tahrirolvasyleh" fourth volume, Darol Elm, Gom, Iran, 1990

azzhatter's picture

Goldensac has been sodomizing American people for years, what's with the 6 hour limit?

vast-dom's picture

And note in Sharia law there's all kinds of loopholes on how it's okay to murder your i guess if she isn't putting out you accuse her of infidelity stone her to death and then bang her out for 6 whole hours! Fucking genius actually!

hedgeless_horseman's picture



A bit of our Judeo/Christian Law and Scripture:

Exodus 21:7: "And if a man sell his daughter to be a maidservant, she shall not go out as the menservants do.

Leviticus 20:10 "And the man that committeth adultery with another man's wife, even he that committeth adultery with his neighbour's wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death."

Leviticus 27:6 A child aged 1 month to five years of age was worth 5 shekels if a boy and 3 shekels if a girl.

Deuteronomy 21:10-13 describes how a soldier can force a woman captive to marry him without regard for her wishes.

Deuteronomy 22:13-21 requires that a woman be a virgin when she is married. If she has had sexual relations while single in her father's house, then she would be stoned to death.

Deuteronomy 22:28-29 requires that a virgin woman who has been raped must marry her attacker, no matter what her feelings are towards the rapist.

Deuteronomy 25:11: If two men are fighting, and the wife of one of them grabs the other man's testicles, her hand is to be chopped off.


vast-dom's picture

Hey I'm an equal oppurtunity discriminator when it comes to ALL religions. But the difference here is that those scriptures were written some time right after BC and AD 0 whereas this insanity i cited above is being amended TODAY! 

hedgeless_horseman's picture



Actually, those were all well before Christ.  Jesus did clarify with this:

“Anyone who divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery, and the man who marries a divorced woman commits adultery.


-Luke 16:18

So, under the law, the happy new couple (she previously divorced) should be stoned, per Jesus Christ.


vast-dom's picture

Hey I'm repulsed by all of it!


And just like today's politicians and cops, Jesus just couldn't mind his business......