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MF Global: Comments from a Bank Executive

More from our Bank Exec friend, this time on MF Global after we tried to lay blame on Rubin, Thain and Corzine for blowing up their firms :

“MF Global. They named that company right. You probably didn't see it first hand but Lehman, Bear and Merrill were doing the dumbest real estate deals "ever" in the run up to the implosion. Every real estate veteran saw it, and while AIG's CDS exposure gets airplay, bad real estate lending is at the center of the disaster. So, Merrill was toast before Thain showed up. He was just the funeral director. Citi (with its 14 off balance sheet SIV's @ $1 trillion) was an abomination in progress before Rubin arrived, the Enron of banking and each and every officer and board member should go to jail. But they won't because they are all too powerful and very politically connected.

But Corzine takes the cake, jumping into European sovereign debt of all things. WTF ?? I mean, doesn't he read zerohedge ? They blew the whistle in like 2008. From news reports, Corzine himself was the primary trader taking ever larger positions in government debt. That's almost astounding. If you liked Bear Stearns leverage, you'll love MF Global.”


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Mon, 10/31/2011 - 16:00 | 1829587 CClarity
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Corzine bought himself the legacy he deserves.  And I liked him way back in the GS and Primary Dealers days of the 1980s.

Too bad for all the employees he drowned.

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 16:15 | 1829617 redpill
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He's a piece of shit like so many of them.  Gross negligence doesn't begin to describe it.  How you can be so horribly wrong and lose so much money is unbelievable, and not only are you not jailed/sued/lynched, you get a $12 million check to boot.  Are you paying attention, OWS?


And it's grossly satisfying to watch this absurd stock market finally roll over in the final 30 minutes of trading to spoil the pre-loaded "what a great October!" stories on CNBS and Yahoo Finance.  Happy Halloween you talking head fuckers!  The market decided to dress up as reality.

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 16:21 | 1829663 GeneMarchbanks
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Agreed. Tomorrow, however is the 1st, usually a major melt up day. Headlines being brainstormed over at the CNBC lab as we speak...




Mon, 10/31/2011 - 16:42 | 1829733 trampstamp
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Uhmmm... That trade hasn't worked for months now. ZeroHedge did an article on this a while back. So we'll see if the trade doesn't until it does.

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 19:12 | 1830043 TwelfthVulture
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And it worked great until Tyler reported it.  After that, it only lasted another month or two.

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 18:34 | 1829930 Poor Grogman
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They must have been desperate, shouldn't this have all been put to bed over the weekend...

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 16:24 | 1829673 Problem Is
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Because in Crony Capitalism...

You always fail upwards...

See: Robert "The Rube" Rubinite....

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 16:27 | 1829681 john39
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just doing his part to prop up the global fiat ponzi...  MF shareholders? economic cannon fodder...

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 13:43 | 1829918 Pitchman
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Because in Crony Capitalism...

You always fail upwards...


... You see, as with the $1.2 Billion SunPower scam below, in the NWO Game of Debt Slavery Economics the House Always Wins And You Are The Mark.

See: Obama's Problem With Solyndra: It's A Warm Up For SunPower


When it comes to financial terrorism, waged against the people, the President has abdicated his Constitutional Oath and that is an act of Treason.

See: HOUSING: To Solve The Problem You Have To Force Very Large Banks To Recognize Loses


THE FED’S DEBT SLAVERY ECONOMIC MODEL is the genesis of funding for the elite money power.  Such power concentrated in the hands of so few is the most pernicious corrupting force, for which all others follow.



- Inflection Point

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 16:28 | 1829679 Fish Gone Bad
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I am pretty sure it was not his fault.  He watched CNBC diligently.

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 18:40 | 1829946 realitybiter
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If only Corzine got Chinese justice....

He's be saving his family the embarrassment of the formality by swallowing the barrel, now.


Instead, he looks like the clown he is, screwing everyone around him (financially), safely insulated by his years of ill-gotten gains.  POS.


Those Chinese, very smart......

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 20:20 | 1830203 malikai
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Probably not, unless it was politically appropriate.

But they certainly set good examples.

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 19:57 | 1830145 monkeyboy
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Anyone know if IB are in the same boat?

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 22:48 | 1830642 Godisanhftbot
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 not likely. the man that runs IB is not a piece of shit like the folks that have destroyed these other firms. It's still his money, and he's no fool. 


 why aren't those morons  in the tents calling for Corzines head? If anyone should be forced to pay for the damage out of his own pocket its this clown

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 23:46 | 1830777 jeff montanye
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true words.  taibbi?

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 16:45 | 1829741 Ruffcut
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Designed destruction at its best. TIme to remove the "political" connections and replace with a rope and noose. Don't want to break the connect but make it a little better suited.

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 17:09 | 1829789 Sequitur
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Good article on all the conflicts which may have prevented the NRSROs from reporting downgrades:

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 18:39 | 1829940 Zero Govt
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Yes what was MF Goonballs Credit Rating Agency rating yesterday?

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 18:47 | 1829970 oklaboy
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great read, thanks for the link. Corzine was scum before, and scum now, he just hangs with the good old boys. 

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 17:51 | 1829854 Freddie
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Corzine, Rubin (a real POS), Madoff, Stan O'Neil (MF'er), Franklin Raines, The Sandlers - all lib Dem scum like the muslim in the white hut.

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 18:58 | 1829999 Pure Evil
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Damn Freddie, tell us how you really feel.


Freddie: "Damn MoFo moslem in de honkey hut"


More like a barrel of monkeys hangin' out at the honkey house!

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 19:09 | 1830033 TwelfthVulture
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I agree wholeheartedly.  Yet I feel I must point out the obvious.  It's not just the dems, it's the whole damn system.  Ignore all the presidents, vice-presidents, senators, representatives, and even the hated lobbyists.  In my short life, I swear, it has been the same dozen or so incompentent asshats who have been "advisors" to every single administration, dem and repub.  I bet that if you did the right research, one would discover that they all pledged the same fraternity, therefore, they can't be discharged, no matter how many complete and total fuckups they are responsible for, since they all know who was at the giant cock-sucking, ass-fucking gay orgy and will gladly spill the beans if ever a pink slip appears on their desk.

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 20:17 | 1830196 i-dog
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  >> "if you did the right research, one would discover that they all pledged the same fraternity" <<

I have ... and they did! However, none of them will ever spill the beans ... because the penalties for doing so, to both themselves and their loved ones, are too dire for them to contemplate.

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 21:07 | 1830307 blindman
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why is it that we can speculate and calculate the consequences of
doing the wrong thing but are incapable of contemplating the
results of doing the right thing? is it a defect?

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 23:51 | 1830786 jeff montanye
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i'm going with it's a defect to the degree that anyone contemplates consequences of any sort at all.

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 03:55 | 1830997 anonnn
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Psst. Skl&Bns originally outed in late 1800's by 1 of its members.

Namely, ex-Yalee and later Professor of Chemistry Benjamin Silliman who did 1st comprehensive analysis of crude oil from 1st well in USA [Pennsylvania].

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 16:00 | 1829590 Chuck Bone
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If you liked Corzine as head of MF Global, you'll love him as Secretary of the Treasury.

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 16:02 | 1829596 JenkinsLane
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Mon, 10/31/2011 - 16:09 | 1829623 TuesdayBen
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Nah, feels the same whether I pay for the asswipe directly or indirectly.

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 16:09 | 1829631 Frank N. Beans
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yeah, even better'n timmay

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 16:27 | 1829684 Problem Is
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Corzine looks like a Bernank double...

For A New FED Chairman
Just insert Corzine in The Bernank like a suppository...

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 16:24 | 1829664 ToNYC
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If you don't think it was his Goldman Sacker special c*ck into NYFED Dudley do GS Right, you should remain sleeping. Collateral damage. Locals bleeding = chump change. Who cares? Henry Kissinger's next call.

It works 'till the streets get South America just adjacent to 9-11-73

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 23:56 | 1830795 jeff montanye
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don't understand the last sentence.  it would seem to work even better after the cia led coup.  but we would have to have an opposition administration.  paul/johnson?

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 17:22 | 1829812 orangedrinkandchips
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It is beyond comprehension. On second thought....nah....(it was in 2008 but not now).


Move along, move along...nothing to see here.

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 17:59 | 1829868 trav7777
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how about as new Fed chairman?

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 18:01 | 1829874 Pitchman
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Head and sholders above Timmah -


THE FED’S DEBT SLAVERY ECONOMIC MODEL is the genesis of funding for the elite money power. Such power concentrated in the hands of so few is the most pernicious corrupting force, for which all others follow.




“The most potent weapon of the oppressor is the mind of the oppressed.” - Steven Biko

See: Peter Schiff Occupies Wall Street: Government Is The Problem But Ignorance Abounds


Tue, 11/01/2011 - 04:55 | 1831029 zhandax
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Thanks for the link....haven't heard that in 30 years.  Don't forget the other video in the right hand margin.....

Thank goodness Frank gave us the answer 30 years ago while most of us were too stoned to realize what the question was.  Having it in our subconscious made it easier to find when we finally woke up.

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 16:13 | 1829597 GeneMarchbanks
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Motha Fuckin Global...  Collapse!!!

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 16:02 | 1829599 Vergeltung
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seems like an interesting inside perspective. wish there was more!


Mon, 10/31/2011 - 16:03 | 1829605 RSloane
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He will return to government where he was well appreciated. I'm sure he misses the ass-kissing.

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 18:46 | 1829966 Zero Govt
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wherever Goldman Sucks staffers roam there seems to be another train wreck

...or am I imagining things!

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 16:07 | 1829609 Mercury
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But Corzine takes the cake, jumping into European sovereign debt of all things. WTF ?? I mean, doesn't he read zerohedge ? They blew the whistle in like 2008. From news reports, Corzine himself was the primary trader taking ever larger positions in government debt. That's almost astounding. If you liked Bear Stearns leverage, you'll love MF Global.”


Oh Mr. Corzine, that voluntary haircut looks fabulous on you...very European.  Did you get it done in Brussels or New York?

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 16:27 | 1829683 Hedgetard55
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"But they won't because they are all too powerful and very politically connected."


So said Marie Antoinette.

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 16:30 | 1829691 Problem Is
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Corzine just had Carla Katz put a chili bowl on his head in his/her New Jersey office....

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 18:57 | 1830001 TwelfthVulture
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More like, Carla Tortelli.

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 16:05 | 1829611 TideFighter
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Corzine thought he was on an inside deal.

CDS is not booked income. TBTF banks next.


Mon, 10/31/2011 - 16:22 | 1829667 NotApplicable
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Well, it's possible he was, but they just couldn't hang on until payday, due to the political difficulties?

Or perhaps the real inside plan is to break lots of stuff in order to have more for the survivors to loot, retaining solvency for another day?

There's just no telling.

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 17:54 | 1829861 Freddie
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So what is the deal?  Was Corzine the scum bag a inside Goldman mole trying to wreck MF Global so Goldman could buy it for pennies?  Now I hear Interactive Brokers may buy it.  Who is behind IB?    Who at MFL Global was dumb enough to hire Corzine?  Some brain dead liberal board?

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 05:17 | 1831036 zhandax
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That's what I am trying to guess.  If you read the link to the Revolving Credit Facility documents Tyler posted Thursday, Goldman was signed on as lenders to these turkeys (Credit agreement signature page 6 executed on behalf of Goldman by Mark Walton).

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 16:05 | 1829612 He_Who Carried ...
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Jail? They should be hung by their nostrils!

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 17:25 | 1829817 orangedrinkandchips
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seriously, In Northern Africa, Gawd-awful(Gadhafi) and his klan for the last 40 something years would put a pole up someone's ass they disliked, turn it up and let gravity take it's toll....NO SHIT.....luckily, they would pass out from the pain as a normal prostate exam hurts like helll...(MOON RIVER!...Gee using the whole fist???)


THAT is what they deserve......nothing short.


I did love the part about Thain being funeral director....funny shit as usual from Zero Hedge.

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 16:05 | 1829613 azusgm
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Could he have been putting together a sovereign debt equivalent of the Abacus deal? That kind of hands on with blatantly toxic assets screams for an explanation. If he was building another Abacus, that would explain why the plug was pulled. The regulators and SROs don't need the political heat.

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 16:06 | 1829615 Mike in GA
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There IS more...and we've got a front row seat, right here @ ZH!

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 16:06 | 1829616 Tsar Pointless
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Wanna have some fun?

Google with quotation marks "MF Global bankruptcy" then Google "Steeler Patriots" with quotes and check out the disparity in hits.

You already know which one will return more hits, dontcha now. laddies and lassies?

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 16:19 | 1829659 Joe Davola
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Now that Bellicheat can't front run defenses, it is important news.


By the way, now that Bocephus is out of the MNF picture, who is doing tonight's opening?

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 16:08 | 1829620 Zola
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"Doesnt he read Zerohedge?" Reply: Oh you mean THAT fringe blog ? Of course not, I read the WALL ST JOURNAL and they told me a BAILOUT WAS COMING ?? So i load up on the debt because you know the ECB is going to BUY BUY BUY so i make $$$$ !! Of well i fucked up : time for my 15mil $ golden parachute...


Mon, 10/31/2011 - 16:34 | 1829707 Problem Is
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+1 Zola...

Corzine: "Oh well, I only lost some one else's money..."

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 18:55 | 1829994 TwelfthVulture
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Corzine: "Oh well, I only lost some one else's money, AGAIN..." 



Mon, 10/31/2011 - 18:01 | 1829873 trav7777
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He went to the Bill Gross school of loading up on bonds for QEs

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 16:09 | 1829624 wang (not verified)
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The question is this: Is MF is BS redux, then what/when is the coming Lehman event?

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 16:09 | 1829626 SuSpencer
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JC would have been much more successful had he just followed a more stringent set of Risk Management Prinicples:

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 16:09 | 1829627 narnia
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the same team of shredders at PwC who probably just finished up Solyndra have a new project:

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 16:11 | 1829634 Killer the Buzzard
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Today is the last day for $5 footlongs at Subway bitchezzzz.

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 16:17 | 1829655 TuesdayBen
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Isn't Subway a bit fresh for your taste?

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 16:36 | 1829713 Problem Is
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SHIT! Today is the last day?

Can I have a foot long for which I will gladly pay you Tuesday??? No really. I will pay tomorrow...

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 16:12 | 1829639 Note to self
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Slightly OT but:  WHy is it that after horrible days with nearly 10% losses on the day in their stock price, MS and BAC show as nearly flat, +/- .04% on the dya if you get a quote from Marketwatch at 4:10 PM?  How does that work?

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 16:17 | 1829654 Deadpool
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they don't. BAC down 7% today and MS down 8.65%...maybe you're seeing after hours.

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 16:18 | 1829658 Note to self
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must be

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 16:25 | 1829675 SwingForce
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Those are after hours quotes, see the little moon icon? They wipe the slate clean at 4pm.

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 16:13 | 1829642 JenkinsLane
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Tonight, Matthew, I'm going to be Nick Leeson.

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 16:13 | 1829643 williambanzai7
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Will anyone care to join me for some...


Mon, 10/31/2011 - 16:18 | 1829657 Piranhanoia
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Is that what I'm going to look like afters?   

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 17:25 | 1829818 Ruffcut
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I'll pass.  This may that schnapps that tastes like ass and you wake up up with a big fat ugly something.

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 16:20 | 1829662 Lord Welligton
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I'd drink the whole 750ml.


Mon, 10/31/2011 - 16:24 | 1829674 GeneMarchbanks
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Is that Chris Christie?

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 16:28 | 1829685 kaiserhoff
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We'll need absinthe before this is over;)

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 17:43 | 1829839 s2man
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I've bought wormwood seeds.  will let you know when I get the recipe for absinthe ;-)

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 16:28 | 1829686 SwingForce
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In the can?

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 16:31 | 1829699 williambanzai7
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At this point there is no point in going to see standup comedy. All you have to do is watch the screen...


Mon, 10/31/2011 - 17:48 | 1829848 Pitchman
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Ouzo: Liquid Polio

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 18:54 | 1829992 Zero Govt
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Drunk on debt that's for sure ...I'm just watching Jean Claude Trichet on CNBC explain how very important it is for the ECB to quadruple the size of the brewery and keep all the drunks of Europe pissed as farts 24/7 for a decade to come

Brilliant stuff... pass the vodka popcorn

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 23:14 | 1830714 bankruptcylawyer
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banzai i sent cyriak your blog, i wanted him to check you out. he's not political. but if you watch all his videos and look at the subtext of his creative messages. he's deeply subversive. please check him out. i'd love for you two to collaborate. seriously. that would be my dream. PLEASE watch his videos. it will take an hour, it will be worth it. 

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 16:33 | 1829700 malikai
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Is that a PIIGS he's got his right foot on?

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 16:34 | 1829704 Goldtoothchimp09
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should read 112 proof - gotcha

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 16:35 | 1829709 Baron Robber
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hope that's in the store WB, I'll buy the shirt now

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 16:38 | 1829720 Problem Is
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Damn it willb7... I'm trying to eat lunch here...

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 18:21 | 1829907 11b40
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Yo!  WB7.....Your Halloween post was FANTASTIC!

Anyone who missed it:


Mon, 10/31/2011 - 16:13 | 1829644 Mark123
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This is just another tiny fraction of the total and utter corruption to be exposed.  As Ron Paul says this all goes back to sound money (the lack of it).  Until that is fixed there will be no stopping this destruction of our wealth.   


And for those that pin their hopes on emerging markets....I hope you enjoy what they have in store for you.

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 16:27 | 1829682 ToNYC
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Death by ZIRP. EuthanAsia currency: Mrs. Smith meet Mrs. Watanabe.

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 18:13 | 1829891 earleflorida
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note: there are ~14 months left to debate whether or not to extend the FRB'System charter

let the debates begin!

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 18:50 | 1829978 TwelfthVulture
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It is the genius of the New Deal which halted and then reversed the upward mobility of a growing "super" middle class while at the same time instituting a permanent barrier to downward mobility for those who had already "made it."  The end of WWII, leaving America's manufacturing base largely unscathed threatened this construction, however, recent events have restored the status quo.

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 16:17 | 1829650 Piranhanoia
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More whistles.  More blowing.  I want my ears to hurt.

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 16:20 | 1829652 Yellowhoard
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I wonder if Corzine's wallet has Bad Mother Fucking Global on it?

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 16:27 | 1829665 jcaz
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LOL- Corzine rolled the dice, it was his shot to get up to GS status-  he failed, but in his mind-  so what?  He has no skin in this game, and no liability as it goes down in flames.  He'll make some grandiose announcement that he's foregoing any claim to the $12M-  he'll struggle by on just his billion, plus the double government pension.

I'm sure he doesn't mind being called stupid, as long as he's not in jail.

Bet he's laughing his ass off at the world right now-  oh well, onto the next adventure,what else can I fuck up for free......

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 16:28 | 1829688 ToNYC
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Triple damages will make him locked-in NJ farmer, sharecropping if he's lucky.

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 16:22 | 1829666 Me XMan
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Mon, 10/31/2011 - 16:26 | 1829676 Deadpool
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dust in the wind:

An energy company that received U.S. loan guarantees has filed for bankruptcy, the latest black eye for a Department of Energy loan-guarantee program after Solyndra LLC collapsed two months ago.

Massachusetts-based Beacon Power Corp. filed for bankruptcy Sunday after running out of money building its first energy-storage project outside Albany, N.Y.

Beacon filed for Chapter 11 protection in U.S. Bankruptcy Court in Wilmington, Del.

The company has been developing technology that could recycle unused power left over from conventional utility power grids.

The Department of Energy had agreed to back $43 million of Beacon's $69 million project in Stephentown, N.Y., according to court documents. The company has drawn down $39 million of the loan, according to the Department of Energy.

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 16:31 | 1829696 Piranhanoia
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Sadly,  The idiot boy and his monkey trainer fired all real scientists for talking or reporting real scientific information that their retarded gentry they called their base loved them for.  There is no one left in the government that is allowed to make a truthful report, and very few that would be able to write one.

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 18:05 | 1829876 trav7777
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There were also the diversity mandates to account for.

Any organization lacking appropriate diversity is to be shut down or else have diversity imposed on it at all levels.

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 18:42 | 1829955 TwelfthVulture
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Don't forget the muslim outreach.

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 16:26 | 1829677 RickyBobby
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We're still waiting to hear back from ISDA on whether or not this is considered a credit event.

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 17:20 | 1829808 SamuelMaverick
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Now that is freakin funny. Thank you Rickybobby.

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 16:28 | 1829687 FinalCollapse
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How many CDS issued for the MF Global? Or is it voluntary default?

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 16:29 | 1829689 Goldtoothchimp09
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These Goldman clowns have one trick - leverage up risk to the MAX consequences be damned... How about Hank Paulson at GS lobbying for more leverage?!

Why do these tools keep getting jobs?!?!  Suicide Bankers indeed.

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 16:41 | 1829729 I am a Man I am...
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exactly, same with all the financials, if they don't have leverage they got nothing, the psychopaths will lose everyone else's money trying to hit a home run for themselves

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 16:30 | 1829693 the not so migh...
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Corzine is still a billonarie so none of this matters to him.

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 16:42 | 1829735 ThisIsBob
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That is, after all, supposed to be the name of the game.

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 18:22 | 1829910 robertocarlos
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As long as he keeps his head I guess he'll be OK. What happens when all the money is replaced with a new money and FDIC is topped at 250k?

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 18:40 | 1829948 TwelfthVulture
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If you really think that this guy plays by the same rules as the rest of us, you, my friend, have no business here.

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 16:41 | 1829730 Restcase
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The timeline is amusing. Haircuts were announced FRI, which sent the MoFo board into weekend conferences. They should've been in conference all week.

They were probably beguiled by stories like:
Why It's Actually A Big Deal That Greek Bond Haircuts Talks Have Been Suspended

Common wisdom puts its money on the table and gets clobbered.

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 16:43 | 1829739 SweatpantKing
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This is what happens in the real world when a politician lusts for more government debt.  nom nom nom

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 17:04 | 1829780 franzpick
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Imagine the bankers and sovereign leaders having painted themselves into a corner of the boardroom, and now asking for more paint to enable them a way out of the trap.

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 16:57 | 1829759 Deadpool
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The following are MF Global Holdings’ largest unsecured creditors and shareholders, according to the company’s bankruptcy filing and related court papers submitted today in U.S. Bankruptcy Court in Manhattan.

Unsecured creditors rank behind secured lenders in getting repaid in a bankruptcy, and are ahead of preferred and common shareholders.

Unsecured Creditors:

JPMorgan Chase & Co. (JPM)’s JPMorgan Chase Bank, bondholder trustee, $1.2 billion.

Deutsche Bank AG (DBK), trustee for $1.02 billion in bonds:

Deutsche Bank Trust Co., bondholder trustee for 6.25% notes, $325 million bondholder trustee for 3.375% notes, $325 million bondholder trustee for 1.875% notes, $287.5 million bondholder trustee for 9% notes, $78.6 million.

Headstrong Services LLC, $3.9 million

Comcast Corp. (CMCSA)’s CNBC, $845,397

Sullivan & Cromwell LLP, $596,939

Caplin Systems Ltd., $427,520

Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen & Katz, $388,000

Linklaters LLP, $348,000 PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP, $312,598 Dean Media Group, $309,000

Oracle Corp. (ORCL), $302,704

ForwardThink Group Inc., $278,825

Bloomberg Finance LP, $276,064

The Gate Worldwide (S) Pte Ltd., $229,739

Lever Interactive, $178,900 Braxton Group LLC, $172,325 Forum Group, $154,300 Shearman & Sterling LLP, $135,500 RR Donnelly, $118,600 Infinia Group LLC, $115,001 Directors Fees, $105,000

ADK America Inc., $101,958

Shareholders as of Sept. 30, according to the petition:

Preferred Shares:

J.C. Flowers, 1.5 million preferred shares

Common Shares:

Pyramis Global Advisors LLC, 8.44 percent

RS Investments, 7.81 percent

Fine Capital Partners LP, 7.37 percent

Cadian Capital Management LLC, 6.17 percent

TIAA-CREF, 5.77 percent

Advisory Research Inc., 5.54 percent

Dimensional Fund Advisors LP, 5.41 percent

Rydex Security Global Investors LLC, 5.13 percent

=51.64% [idiots!]

The case is MF Global Holdings Ltd. (MF), 11-bk-15059, U.S. Bankruptcy Court, Southern District of New York (Manhattan).

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 17:00 | 1829769 sbenard
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Corzine needs to be sent to prison!

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 18:08 | 1829882 ejhickey
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Or at least sent for a long stroll east from the Jersey shore.

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 17:06 | 1829781 azzhatter
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Nice to see JC Flowers get buttfucked a little here 

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 17:18 | 1829804 aerial view
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The only way besides jail/execution to stop raging psychopaths from pillaging the world's wealth is to put severe limits on the amount of leverage for financial instruments and clawback clauses including their personal wealth when laws are broken. 

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 17:46 | 1829841 jpintx
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Corzine, like others named and thier ilk, confuse the ability to game the system, to screw the government/taxpayer and to fool investors, with the actual ability to trade.  First they need to be shamed and shown to be fakes, then jail works nicely.

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 17:47 | 1829846 orangedrinkandchips
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"AH-HA!" Nelson from the simpsons....



Mon, 10/31/2011 - 17:58 | 1829865 blindman
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Monday October 31 12:00pm
esp. minute 29. and don't miss the interview
at the last half. good program all around!
Sunday, October 30, 2011

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 18:03 | 1829875 0cz
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I feel sorry for the poor fucking kids that are going to get Greek bonds in their candy baskets for halloween this year.

"Daddy what's this I got in my candy basket?"
"Oh son...that is why every parent should check their children's candy for harmful and toxic substances before we let them eat it."

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 19:37 | 1830096 malek
Mon, 10/31/2011 - 18:11 | 1829884 booboo
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Corzine is the Ted Bundy (NO, not Al, TED!!) of Fraud Street. He leaves pecker tracks and bloody foot prints from one rape scene to the next and the dummy cops are still stumped as to not only the cause of death but the perp. This pig fucker sleeps like a baby at night while most Americans fret that Animal Control will bust their door down and shoot their dog because they are a week late on rovers rabies shot.

If there was any justice in this world he would get mowed down and hung up under a New Jersey school bus.

Which reminds me, I was smootchin with a girl on a hill in New York once and she whispered in my ear "Kiss me where it stinks" so I loaded her up in the car and drove her to New Jersey.

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 18:13 | 1829890 0cz
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Send him a copy of "A Tale of Two Cities" for Christmas. 

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 18:19 | 1829903 robertocarlos
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How can a PD go BK? They get free money from the govt every auction.

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 18:36 | 1829932 TwelfthVulture
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Somebody tell me, "what are the odds that AIG wrote insurance (in some form or other) on this garbage?"

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 19:02 | 1830019 sgt_doom
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"..bad real estate lending is at the center of the disaster.."

Negative, but it's a great meme and subterfuge.

While there have been endless criminally fraudulent RE deals, and they need to be gotten after, the fact of the matter is that the subprime market was but a drop in the bucket of securitizations backing worthless credit derivatives.

The ultra-leveraged run, a replay of the one leading up to the Great Crash of 1929, simply began with the banksters having $1 of debt on hand for every $60 to $100 worth of debt, which they ran up to $1,000 using layer upon layer of credit derivatives, coupled with financial manipulation utilizing credit default swaps.

That really should be obvious to everyone by this time.

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 19:35 | 1830093 malek
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Oh, and what was the leverage of a guy buying a house 4.5 times his gross income with zero down? And you interpreted that original statement to be all about subprime only.

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 19:46 | 1830116 mendolover
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His NJ State Trooper chauffeur could have saved some people alot of $$.  Just sayin'.

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 20:10 | 1830184 gs_runsthiscountry
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"MF Global’s leverage ratio was 80:1"

Nothing has been learned in the last 3 years, nothing.

That is all


Mon, 10/31/2011 - 21:16 | 1830337 blindman
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Regulators Investigating MF Global
MF Global Bankruptcy Rattles Wall St. Firms
Federal regulators have discovered that hundreds of millions of dollars in customer money have gone missing from MF Global in recent days, prompting an investigation into the company’s operations as it filed for bankruptcy on Monday, according to several people briefed on the matter.

The revelation of the missing money scuttled an 11th hour deal for MF Global to sell a major part of itself to a rival brokerage firm. MF Global, the powerhouse commodities brokerage run by Jon S. Corzine, had staked its survival on completing the deal.

Now, the investigation threatens to tarnish the reputation of Mr. Corzine, the former New Jersey Governor and Goldman Sachs chief who oversaw MF Global’s demise, making it the first American victim of Europe’s debt crisis.

What began as nearly $1 billion missing had dropped to less than $700 million by late Monday. It is unclear where the money went, and some money is expected to trickle in over the coming days as the firm sorts through the bankruptcy process, the people said.

But regulators are examining whether MF Global diverted some customer money to support its own trades as the firm teetered on the brink of collapse. If that was the case, it could violate a fundamental tenet of Wall Street regulation: Customers’ money must be kept separate from company money.

Such a finding would move the discussion from sloppy internal controls at MF Global to something more troubling. While the investigation is in its early days, it raises the specter that regulators could sanction the firm or the employees responsible.

MF Global and Mr. Corzine have not been accused of any wrongdoing.

Azam Ahmed contributed reporting.

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 23:30 | 1830750 americanspirit
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If Corzine can be proven to be involved then there are many, many layers beneath him who need to be cleaned out or else the corruption will never end. Corzine is the head of a criminal organization, and if only the boss gets busted then you know the fix is in.

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 23:31 | 1830751 americanspirit
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sorry - double post

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 00:33 | 1830852 honestann
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Hang MF Corzine.
Hang the MF regulators.
Hang the MF executives and board of directors.

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