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Guest Post: Military Rolls Tanks Onto St. Louis Streets...But Why?
Submitted by Brandon Smith from Alt-Market
Military Rolls Tanks Onto St. Louis Streets...But Why?
I have to say that this event, which is being labeled a "training exercise", makes very little sense to me. U.S. Army troops all the way from Maryland running open exercises in armored personnel carriers on the busy streets of St. Louis? I know Maryland is a small state, but is there really not enough room at Ft. Detrick to accommodate a tank column and some troops? Are there not entire fake neighborhood and town complexes built with taxpayer dollars on military bases across the country meant to facilitate a realistic urban environment for troops to train in? And why travel hundreds of miles to Missouri? At the very least, this is a massive waste of funds.
On the other hand, such an action on the part of the Department of Defense makes perfect sense if the goal is to acclimate citizens to the idea of seeing tanks and armed military acting in a policing capacity. Just check out the two random idiots the local news affiliate picked to interview in St. Louis on the subject. Both state that they think the exercise is a "great idea", because having the military on the streets would help to "reduce crime":
I suspect that the news affiliate did not go out of its way to get any counter-opinions, even though they admitted to being contacted by those voicing concerns over martial law.
Even so, it's sad and simultaneously terrifying that there are plenty of mindless dupes out there who do not understand the dangers of the Army crossing the Rubicon and acting in a civil law enforcement capacity, never mind that they are completely ignorant of the fact that it violates the Posse Comitatus Act. One of the interviewees even points out that in some countries they don't use police at all; only military. This is true. We call those countries "tyrannies"...
Add to the mix the reality that the DOD refuses to respond to any further inquiries by the press concerning details of the training, and you get yet another suspicious instance of behavior on the part of the establishment that seems preparatory for domestic action. I believe that the high frequency at which these activity reports have been coming in over the past year is certainly cause for alarm...
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Wolverines!
And just as we loathe the new "security measures" (as well we should), more and more of this type of shit will be happening, too. Yeah, stuff like this has always happened, but not so much of it, so often:
http://xfinity.comcast.net/articles/news-national/20120622/US.Former.Pri...
When some of these yahoos snap, they really snap. There are how many people like this all over the country just waiting to go off? Wow.
Like a Train in Vain.....I must say, who really cares about all this stuff, I think Barack's a pretty cool guy, the type of guy you'd like to have a beer with...oh, hey, does anyone know what Snooki had? The Kardashian's I hear, have a new show coming soon...and, Hell's Kitchen is getting really exciting. I can'twant for the next season of Survivor. And, I think this new Anger Management is going to be really great, I read it's WAAAAYYYY better than Two and Half Men.
To get to the other side.
North St. Louis up to the armory on Goodfellow at I-70, is heavily African American. I-70 West to St. Charles County adjoins Lambert International Airport. Is it likely that the military picked a suitably convenient location for solidiers from Maryland to meet up with tanks from Fort Leonard Wood, 140 miles SW of St. Louis on I-44, in order to learn to drive tanks in urban areas? Couldn't they have been trained at home base with no observers by returning soliders from Iraq/Afghanistan?
The military is flashing the leather, in an African-American section of a major city. Maybe Prez O thinks that community is still part of his home team. Or maybe they're gonna do Panty Bomber II around Independence Day.
for funsies
"Just check out the two random idiots the local news affiliate picked to interview in St. Louis on the subject."
Is that like the 'random idiot' ("Harley Guy") on Fox News the morning of 9/11/2001 who explained to the world how the two WTC towers collapsed...an hour and a half after it happened?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07hJhmiWZSY
negate every post I scribed earlier...deaf ears are blinding me. I spoke out of turn...what was said in my previous missives was game theory and not based in reality.
Put down the bong and walk towards the light.
This song comes to mind...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heveuLzxm8k
Where are all the YouTube videos ?
GAG it baby. Guns, Ammo and Gold.
Time to get prepared. Dear Leader Obama getting desperate.
Obama getting desperate? Perhaps he feels the long arm of Constitutional law coming for him. Chains and an orange jumpsuits for him and everyone else of his ilk! http://tinyurl.com/cd5cyjo/
It's the Five Gs...Guns, Gold, Gas, Grains and God. But, i like your point-it's not too late.
Hmmm. I have always prudently avoided St. Louis proper when traveling through that area.
And sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.
Yeah? Well that's until they stick it where the sun don't shine and then don't kiss you but tell you smile and wave for the camera. Which there will surely be, along with the political figure telling you how much good they are doing for you!
Calm down. Take a deep breath. This is the part where you engage critical thinking.
Remember, the bulk of the population still believes in rainbows and skittle-shitting unicorns.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/army-prepares-tanks-for-war-on-america-2.html
Google Pruitt-Igoe for the answer. STL may be the only city worse Chicago, New Orleans, LA, and so on...
"Posse whosathingamajigy?" -Barack Hussein Obama
I'll take "Posse whosathingamajigy?" for $3000 Alex.
"What kind of training, Son?"
"HArrrrrrrmy Training, sir!"
Deteriorating economic situation; global, Wall Street, banker corruption with no one going to jail; corrupt and bought members of Congress and the House, who, btw, are immunized from arrest and since they are part of the elite, will be protected from the pissed off masses; military industrial complex in cahoots with the corporate-pharma-judicial complex; Halliburton contracted by the Pentagon/military to refurb detention centers across the country; currency controls, bank closures, rehypothication of our funds in brokerage accounts; Obama usurping executive powers to judge/jury/execute Americans on foreign/US soil if 'suspected' of aiding terrorists; reupping the PATRIOT Act and passing the executive order that allows the Pres to seize all means of production, food, energy; Justice ordering many millions of rounds of NATO 7.65mm ammo for Homeland security…use of drones patrolling our skys - soon to be armed? Heavy armour and troop transports in a 'training session' for 'urban warfare' exercises in St. Louis? Haven't they had sufficient practice in Fallujah, or Baghdad, or at the 900 plus military bases globally?
It all begs the question - what do they know that we don't, and do they expect 'something' to happen that will trigger their use of all the above means at their disposal to respond to the situation…
And, what can we do about it? November will change nothing, with Romney/Obama equally bad with plans to get worse. Now that Syria has shot down a Turkish jet "without provocation" - as the media is blathering about - we can guarantee that Monday AM there will be a meeting with Blitherous Hillary blathering on about acts of aggression against a NATO member and this will give the MIC the excuse they have been looking for to attack Assad and kill a few hundred thousand (perhaps millions of Syrians) with depleted uranium weaponry.
Perhaps Russia and China will step in with Syria and get Assad to proffer an apology - or not. Or they will step back and let NATO get involved in yet another Middle Eastern war for destabilization, and thence on to Tehran…
Do we 'bug out?' Or 'Bug in?' Passively sit back and watch our friends, neighbors and family get rounded up? Teams of "First responders" aka police/military units seizewhatever they want in house-to-house searches, based on certain records and paperwork we have signed when we topped up our 1911 stockpile?
If the financial cataclysm comes to a head in the next few months, and the people go nuts…
Suggestions? Thoughts? Recommendations?
Hide and watch. John Brown was a tad bit too early.
I'm the first person who would stand up against the kind of behavior which I suspect many politicians would employ in this regard. It worries me that something like this might occur someday.
However, until this actually happens, I remain rather sanguine about the whole event. Here's why. To begin with, I know so many military people who would oppose this kind of behavior, should it happen, that it would be difficult to make it a reality. While some in the military just follow orders and nothing more, the one thing most in the military have is a brain and individual initiative, and most know their role.
Secondly, these kinds of training exercises take place regularly and all over. I lived near an Army Depot while I was growing up and this kind of event was an annual thing. I'm not sure why people get out of their skulls worrying about these kinds of things. The military does have to have practical experience, and sometimes that means taking it outside the bounds of the facilities. Locally, all the required political entities are informed, the police are aware, and sometimes people show up to watch.
Finally, why is everything a conspiracy? This kind of "OMG they are going to overrun us with our own military" is a long-running paranoid theme, and it's gotten worse lately. I remember when Clinton first came into office, articles were regularly showing up about "concentration camps" being created. Then Y2K occurred, and the rumors ratcheted up a notch. Bush came in, and the discussion shifted slightly (Democrats who used to laugh at Republicans fearing a Clinton crackdown now feared a Bush crackdown - so the conspiracy nuts exist on both sides), but remained intact. Katrina became a "concentration camp" event which many continue to claim was just a test run (laughable - if it was, it goes to show just how poorly these kinds of things are going to be done).
Today, while I fear this imperial president and consider him the most dangerous man we've had in the White House, I don't fear him using the military to do his bidding. Most of them do not like him, and most would reject his calls.
Besides, conspiracy theories are just plain ridiculous.
The answer to your epistle is Occam's Razor simplicity. First conspiracies do exist . More than a decade in the intelligence world taught me that. Secondly, simply because "they take place regularly and all over' is not a defense for this action. The military belongs on their posts and bases. Third, and the nexus of the ease with which this now occurs regularly is that it is a continuing slow accretion of power sans the Bill of Rights.
"I'm the first person who would stand up against the kind of behavior which I suspect many politicians would employ in this regard."
I don't think sooooooooooo! Tuco
How did we get this far?
A question which should have been asked decades ago. Now our poor,porcine and practically illiterate population cowers at power.
Will the military defend the Constitution? Well we can hope.
because Amerikkans wanted McMansions and SUVs by trashing liberty.
They were programmed by years of immersion in mass media. The project was sucessful the test subjects reacted properly to the stimuli.
They wanted what we told them to want.
So much for posse comitatus and Waco.
Doubtful these tanks will be greeted as liberators either.
Why we sold SPY Jul 133 calls at profit toward Friday close and bought QQQ Jul 65 and SPY 134 puts...
http://richcash8tradeblog.blogspot.com/
Heil Obama. Change you damned well better believe in.
They're training for NATO duty in summer riots in Europe.
This seems shocking because the mass destractions that happen 24/7 are now so normal, you won't find any stories on it. If America fails, it won't be the dystopia of George Orwell, but Aldous Huxley. Allow me to illuminate.
“What Orwell feared were those who would ban books. What Huxley feared was that there would be no reason to ban a book, for there would be no one who wanted to read one. Orwell feared those who would deprive us of information. Huxley feared those who would give us so much that we would be reduced to passivity and egoism. Orwell feared that the truth would be concealed from us. Huxley feared the truth would be drowned in a sea of irrelevance. Orwell feared we would become a captive culture. Huxley feared we would become a trivial culture, preoccupied with some equivalent of the feelies, the orgy porgy, and the centrifugal bumblepuppy. As Huxley remarked in Brave New World Revisited, the civil libertarians and rationalists who are ever on the alert to oppose tyranny "failed to take into account man's almost infinite appetite for distractions." In 1984, Orwell added, people are controlled by inflicting pain. In Brave New World, they are controlled by inflicting pleasure. In short, Orwell feared that what we fear will ruin us. Huxley feared that what we desire will ruin us.”
? Neil Postman, Amusing Ourselves to Death: Public Discourse in the Age of Show Business
In America we are controlled with pleasure, not pain. Prehaps, one day the pain will come, but the most pressing, heavy controls are here, inside. We're living in The Brave New World, yet paranoid about 1984.
Interesting point. I fear it is sadly true--decades of training in passivity, fear, and dependency, have created more than 50% of voters who are sheeple. They cannot forsee what's coming, they only sense what happens, and if something alarming happens, they turn to the marxist media for an explanation.
ask the turk he said.
so she did.
dry as a bone hilary cuntish clinton asked the jewish loving ertogan turk.
he said you don't need any fema or edukation adjustment camps.
you use the returning heroic marines.
you use a gps plotted grid system round the folks up.
tie them together walk them in hundreds to the river.
get them to walk in the river until it is waist high shoot the first 2 in the head and let the current do the rest.
it worked well for the turk killing many armenians.
and it will work well here.
they want you dead not in a camp.
If you've ever been to East St. Louis, you would understand.
Urban Democrats intrested in seeing military BECAUSE they cannot contain their own neighborhood.They expect cops,but hate em at the same time.Fuck em.
If you use historical references like 'crossing the rubicon', the sheeple won't even know what you are referring to. I wish the libertarians could seceed from the sheeple, and we could life free while the passive dolts could get their bread and circus and be none the wiser.
"And why travel hundreds of miles to Missouri?"
Swing state?
If they can't subdue the damn ragheads in Afgansi-shithole, how are they going to subdue 100 million armed and pisssed off citizens? Sotero is melting down... get ready for another 911 and the cancellation of the 2012 elections... bank holidays? natch.