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Mitt Romney's Selection Of Paul Ryan Is A Sign Of Desperation

Many folks were surprised last night as rumors began leaking that Romney tapped Paul Ryan of Wisconsin, for the prestigious VP slot.  The surprise came largely because many were expecting a more mundane pick like Tim Pawlenty or Rob Portman.  The reactions from the GOP base is positive overall, although the story is still fresh and drawing conclusions is difficult.  The reactions from the Democrat/Liberal base are predictable and I am guessing that the Obama campaign is licking its lips over the prospect of skewering Ryan like a kabob.   I have a slightly different take, my feeling is that this pick is an indication that the Romney team is struggling and sees the prospect of winning in November diminishing with each passing day. People like Pawlenty and Portman is the equivalent of swinging for a base hit - the selection of Ryan is swinging for the fences.  It is desperation and an attempt to shake things up substantially in the hopes of energizing a splintered and unimpressed Conservative base.

However I prefer to focus on the economics of politics, not the politics of politics - so lets take a look at what exactly makes Ryan such a risk.

Paul Ryan, to be sure, is an impressive politician.  He has a perfect pedigree, is good looking and probably considered to be the premier fiscal wonk of the Republican party.  His budget is considered by many to be the boldest and most courageous attempt at tackling America's most pressing issues, entitlements.  Of course there is always more than the shiny facade pimped by party loyalists and for those that have bothered to investigate Ryan's record the picture becomes a bit murkier.

For starters there is the very pressing and disturbing votes of the Bush legacy.  Specifically Ryan's support of:  TARP, Medicare Part D and No Child Left Behind (NCLB).  All three are wonderful examples of how the Republican party only fights for fiscal sanity when they are a minority party, the second they become the majority they expand Government programs at an alarming rate.  NCLB is a monstrosity that gave the Department of Education teeth, Medicare Part D tacked on hundreds of billions (half a trillion as of today per year) to the debt and was passed in the House in a manner very reminiscent to ObamaCare and TARP is an egregious disregard of the free market system and should make any citizen sick to their stomach.   While Ryan may be able to justify all these votes, there are Republicans in the House who did *not* vote for these programs and quite a handful.

Then of course there is the famous Ryan budget.  A budget that reminds of me the great Oz.  It is daunting and impressive, but if you look behind the curtain there is a tiny little man pulling a whole lot of levers.  This very budget (despite being all bark and no bite) was used to galvanize Obama and the liberal base.  Remember how Ryan's policies inspired the idea that he would throw grandma off the cliff?  Yet despite the proven record of the Left to make a mountain of a molehill team Romney decided to go all-in and select Paul Ryan.  More importantly, for what?

In order to understand that Ryan's budget is nothing more than smoke and mirrors we turn to a detailed analysis of the budget.  This interactive analysis lets  you compare and contrast the Ryan and Obama budgets side by side and examine the projects for spending.   Below is a series of images I selected, but I encourage to explore the interactive tool yourself.

Let us take a look:






First we got Medicaid.  Clearly the difference is notable and appreciable.  In fact based on this image alone it would almost invalidate all my criticism of the Ryan budget.  Medicaid is pure welfare, as opposed to Medicare that is at least partially funded by FICA.  Medicaid was always intended to take care of the downtrodden and unfortunate and has now ballooned into health care for all.   ObamaCare functions and survives primarily on expanding the Medicaid rolls by shoving more people onto the public dime.  Medicaid alone is now responsible for a quarter of many State budgets and continues to financially drain the Federal and State coffers at an alarming rate.  Worst of all, it badly distorts the insurance market driving medical prices up for every single individual.  So it is nice to see Paul Ryan tackle this egregious and disgusting program that does far more harm than good, but the courage and bravery amount to a spending freeze.  By 2021 will be spending more on Medicaid again.  Perhaps Ryan tackles the other entitlement programs better?


Next we have Medicare.  What's this?  Apparently Grandma is not going off a cliff, instead it would appear that she is being pushed up a hill!  Ryan's plan spends MORE on Medicare than Obama.  This is quite the shock considering that Ryan's plan is considered to be the most courageous entitlement reform evah!   It is ironic that Obama and the Left are painting Ryan as the grim reaper chasing your granny, where instead he is slowing down Medicaid to HELP granny.  Oh, you have to love politics - don't you?

Next up is Social Security.  No, it is not a graphical glitch.  Ryan's plan does absolutely nothing for Social Security.  Yet conservative websites and pundits swoon over Ryan like he is the next coming of Barry Goldwater, more on that later.

Lastly, the national debt.  This is probably not surprising, but after all the hoopla and all the bravado the end result is that the speed at which our fiscal apocalypse arrives is merely slowed down by a teeny weeny bit.  Yet one would think that as grandma flies off the cliff with her belongings and rusty wheelchair bouncing off the jagged rocks that America is about to embark on the greatest age of austerity ever devised.

Not really.  We have a budget from an individual who thought there was nothing wrong in forking over a blank check to Wall St, nothing wrong with expanding Medicare by half a trillion and nothing wrong with growing a department that Reagan's campaign promised to eliminate.  We sure have come a long way, have we not?


So this of course begs the question, why did Romney do this?  Why select a VP that will provide such easy ammunition for the Left with virtually no reward?  The answer is quite simple.  Romney and Ryan represent exactly the same problem even if one appears to be a moderate and the other appears to be an epic fiscal warrior.  The Republican party fights for and pushes through the status-quo.  The images you see up above and the Ryan record is the status-quo.  No doubt about it.

Yet Romney is counting on the ignorance of Republican base to run with the facade of Ryan's conservatism.  If that illusion holds then Ryan's image will invariably boost Romney's own image as many will view Romney's decision as courageous and bold despite Obama's willingness to distort Ryan's budget.  In other words, you are witnessing a most fantastic and glamorous circus.  A bad Hollywood movie, except that ending will be quite real and not something you can pause or turn off.

However we all know what happens when politicians threaten the sacred cows of entitlement spending.  They get destroyed.  Barry Goldwater was America's last libertarian-Republican candidate and he was obliterated because he dared to speak up against Social Security.  Barry's loss paved the way for the great society and the invention of Medicare and Medicaid.  How ironic.  Poll after poll shows that Americans refuse to accept changes to entitlement programs, despite their clamoring for someone to fix our debt.

Romney and Ryan will lose in November and the image of the heartless Conservative killing granny will resonate with America, the tragedy of course is that neither Ryan or Romney are willing to actually cut anything!  The tragedy will become even more amusing as we will witness a nasty and partisan fight further dividing Americans as they fight and defend differing policies with the exact same results.

Romney's campaign is ignoring the lessons of Barry Goldwater and going all-in on an individual that has consistently voted for awful legislation and whose budget is nothing more than smoke and mirrors.  A move that can be summarized in one word:  desperation.


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Sun, 08/12/2012 - 15:04 | 2699012 Missing_Link
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This article is a sign of desperation.  Romney and Ryan will win, period, and they have to if America is to have any hope of solvency ever again. 

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 15:08 | 2699017 Nick the Greek
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Give it a rest, and go back to playing Zelda.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 15:27 | 2699063 Peter Pan
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I have said it before and I will say it again.....The only choice Americans have is between a blue condom and a red condom because the nation will be screwed by the same dick regardless of who wins.

Politics is a waste of time in America and has only served to bankrupt a great nation with a proud heritage.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 15:32 | 2699073 IndicaTive
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Peter Pan: If that is an original, you sir, are good. +1

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 15:47 | 2699101 Buckaroo Banzai
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The only good thing about the Paul Ryan selection is, it is driving the Obamatards crazy.

But besides that, we're pretty much fucked. Romney is still the White Obama, with or without Ryan.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 15:51 | 2699111 vast-dom
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Nigel Farage - They Will Collapse The System & Enslave People
Sun, 08/12/2012 - 16:01 | 2699133 Chief KnocAHoma
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This all sounds a bit dramatic, mainly because it is. With this pick Romney is signaling two things - 1 - He understands math and picked a VP that understands it  even more. 2 - Lieing to win will only insure the country sinks faster. If R&R tell the truth and lose, then so be it... we had our chance to try a hail mary pass and save this thing. If they tell the truth and win... they actually get to attempt the hail mary pass.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 16:34 | 2699189 Spastica Rex
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Hope springs eternal. Go team.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 16:46 | 2699211 AldousHuxley
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Democrats: raise taxes

Republicans: cut social spending


Buffett: raise taxes AND cut spending


Congress: cut taxes AND increase spending



poor hungry africans: eat the rich




Sun, 08/12/2012 - 17:59 | 2699341 LMAOLORI
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AldousHuxley "Buffett: raise taxes AND cut spending"


You bought into that Buffet Bullshit the Bailed Out Buffoon hides his money in tax exempt foundations hahaha that bill of obama's wouldn't affect his generous donor AT ALL!

 How Buffett Saves Billions On His Tax Return

Buffett’s Betrayal

Saint Warren’s dark side

Ugliness the media overlook

Then there was his rating agency Moody's not only did he get bailed out but his agency was part of the problem to begin with

Buffett Defends Moody's 


Buffett Defends Credit Ratings Agencies, Concedes System’s Flaws

Better Ways to Lower Warren Buffett's After-Tax Income


Mon, 08/13/2012 - 01:48 | 2700221 Hobbleknee
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When was the last time Republicans cut social spending?  When was the last time anyone cut spending of any sort?

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 02:18 | 2700242 Lost My Shorts
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Please can we have another trillion-dollar war?  You guys are forgetting what is really important.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 16:35 | 2699192 Gringo Viejo
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Astonishing the number of progressive, socialist, anti-capitalists that have started posting on ZH in the last few months. To those of you that fit the definition of same, I wish to pose a question. If America was founded upon a guiding set of principles, such a those set forth in The Constitution and Bill of Rights, the concepts of individual liberty and responsibility........and.......if you disagree with such ideas.....why would you not simply emmigrate to nations more in sympathy with your world view. Why would you not leave those of us that believe in the exceptional nature of the American experiment to our contentment?

I think it fair to say, one can only poke a stick at a lion for so long before the lion turns on them.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 16:39 | 2699200 Spastica Rex
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There is no country that would allow me to immigrate in which I would wish to live.

Although I am neither progressive, nor socialist, nor anti(small scale)-capitalist.

The system is global, buddy.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 16:51 | 2699225 AldousHuxley
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let's have capitalism and CUT DEFENSE BUDGETS...


republicans never talk about THEIR ENTITLEMENTS....."defense" and energy entitlements.


half of your money goes to war buddy.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 18:27 | 2699399 gatorengineer
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Name a single welfare program that in real dollars has ever been cut, I am not talking against baseline budgeting, I am talking in real dollars....


Why pray tell are we still in Afganistan with the Chocolate Fonz at the helm.... I thought we would have been back by easter of 2009.....?

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 19:09 | 2699480 dugorama
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clinton capped "welfare" at 3 years lifetime benefit.  there's one.

I thought we would have closed Gitmo (and simply transferred the inhabitants to Leavenworth) on day two of the Obama admin.  Sure, then we'd have to give them a trial.  But since I believe in the rule of law, that's fine by me.

I would have thought we'd be completely out of Iraq (as promised during the campaign) sometime in the first year of the Obama admin. 

But I'm still not voting for anyone as clueless and as big a tool as Romney.


There IS a difference, if you don't think the shift from 8 years of Clinton's peace and prosperity to Bush's purposeful collapsing of the pax Americana was real, you just haven't been paying attention.


Sun, 08/12/2012 - 19:54 | 2699603 FMR Bankster
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True, but then they all became "disabled" and moved over to Social Security. Better deal really, once you are on it you are on it for life. And of course that medicare kicks in after 18 months.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 13:43 | 2701170 Kobe Beef
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Cloward-Piven Strategy.

The authors stated they would need cadres of aggressive community organizers to farm the tapeworms, ahem, organize the poor to demand greater welfare benefits, and thus collapse the capitalist system.

Why, hello there, Mr. Soetero. And how goes the organizing today? 

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 20:18 | 2699668 gatorengineer
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The spending for that program has never increased by 0 or been cut with either Progressive Repuklican or Democrat in.......  In a worse of two evils, I would rather shovel it to the banksters than the welfare queens.....  Both bad, both inexcusable, and its a hold your nose and vote..... I vote Romney.


Answer me this if Barry committs US forces to Syria or Bombs Iran will you still vote for him?  He is ahead over Bush on using US military force by the way..... Paki, Afghan, Somalia, Libya, Central Afrikka, and I am sure I am missing a few.....  Barry hasnt hesistate to use the military.....

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 20:51 | 2699774 caconhma
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Paul Ryan  is just another Sara Pailin. Being associated with a loser does not make one a winner.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 13:45 | 2701181 Kobe Beef
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Sun, 08/12/2012 - 21:11 | 2699825 t0mmyBerg
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And if you were paying attention you would realize that though Bush was a tool and an idiot, the forces that have shaped the world over the course of time you mention are far greater than the men you also mention and larger than the government of the united states.  Clinton successfully surfed a wave that came in that had nothing to do with him.  Bush and Obama are also subject to the waves that come in.  All you can do is surf it well or poorly.

I will say this.  I have bet a few of my acquaintences that Obummer will win no more than 10 states.  Now these will be big states so he will make the electoral vote close, but the popular will be a "landslide" with perhaps a 5-8% spread.  If i am wrong and the POS lying scumbag is re-elected, my faith in America will be gone completely, not because i think Romney or Ryan are awesome - I don't - but because to vote for Maobama given what you know or should know is an act of craven malfeasance. 

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 00:19 | 2700123 Oldballplayer
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I still don't get giving prisoners of war trials.

I know several old guys that did not get trials, yet they enjoyed the hospitality of prison camps in Japan, Germany, and the US.

We've turned into pussies who deserve what we get.

I am not suggesting we go all Atilla the Hun...but let's act.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 13:49 | 2701197 Kobe Beef
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I still don't get going to war without a Declaration of War.

I'm not suggesting we go all Constitutional...but this Executive Emperor stuff has to go.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 16:54 | 2701959 DaveyJones
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well said

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 22:54 | 2702908 TURBO
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Concur. And where is "Code Pink" when you need the bitch? (oh that's right, Libs only hiked their skirts in a bunch when it came to Bush. )

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 13:42 | 2701169 LooseLee
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Welfare to CORPORATIONS or welfare to INDIVIDUALS? Be specific, please

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 16:54 | 2699228 Gringo Viejo
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Ah yes, the system is "global". That's why! Some can find an excuse for just about anything. Transparently disingenuous....a product of your time.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 19:20 | 2699521 Spastica Rex
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Jingoism is common. And boring.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 20:00 | 2699614 Monedas
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"I wouldn't join any club that would have me as a member !" .... Groucho Marx ?

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 20:02 | 2699618 Spastica Rex
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Sun, 08/12/2012 - 17:40 | 2699317 Harbanger
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The concepts of individual liberty and responsibility stand in the way of the NWO.

These trolls are paid for, have multiple accounts and most are not even posting from the US.

"I think it fair to say, one can only poke a stick at a lion for so long before the lion turns on them."

The hyenas have never met Eetwidomayloh (He who greets with fire),

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 17:57 | 2699344 pods
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They are not trolls, sure as hell not being paid, and probably do live in Amerika.

BTW, you cannot use the term "individual liberty" commenting on anything about amerikan politics.

As for speaking of this "capitalism," exactly when in any of our lifetimes was this practiced?

After we lost free market money in 1913, there sure as hell wasn't any.


Sun, 08/12/2012 - 18:11 | 2699375 Harbanger
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"we"?  In the end, you my friend, will be discarded like a Piece Of Dog Sht.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 20:32 | 2699707 pods
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Well thankfully I do not give a shit.


Sun, 08/12/2012 - 23:08 | 2700013 Harbanger
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You do care pods, and I understand why.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 19:30 | 2699550 Spastica Rex
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What a weird exchange today, huh?

Tangibly odd.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 20:04 | 2699622 Monedas
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Liberals are panicking that Paul Ryan will help Romney .... at least Ryan won't turn the other cheek like Bush .... he's a fighter !

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 20:27 | 2699695 Bananamerican
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Sun, 08/12/2012 - 20:54 | 2699779 donsluck
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Whatever too!

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 17:01 | 2701970 DaveyJones
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and he goes around quoting Rand verse for verse - then votes completely hypocritical to any ideology but serving the global masters. He's a whore like the rest of them - only this whore goes to the gym. American politics is a more expensive version of dancing with the stars

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 20:31 | 2699704 pods
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I don't think I have seen this many junks across the whole comment section in a while.  


Sun, 08/12/2012 - 18:11 | 2699373 TimmyB
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Please point me to the sections of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights that allow corporations the right to control our government and rule us all.  Also, please reread the First Amendment, which gives all of us, especially those who we disagree with, the right to have different thoughts and ideas, and allows everyone the right to try to convince others and our government that their ideas should be adopted by the majority.

If YOU don't like living in a country that follows the First Amendment in that Bill of Rights you wrote of, why don't YOU pack a fucking bag and leave.  You obviously want to live in some sort of dictatorship where people can be told to shut the fuck up when they disagree with how the country is being run. 

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 00:21 | 2700128 Oldballplayer
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It is the amendment that allowed the direct election of Senators. Previously they has to be beholden to their corrupt state legislatures. Now they are just beholden to anyone that could corrupt them.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 01:10 | 2700179 BooMushroom
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If I agreed with this any more, I'd have to make some sock puppets to give you more greenies.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 01:29 | 2700199 Uncle Keith
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Stay on topic, Princess... But, since you're fishing - I'll bite...


I'm a Progressive/Pragmatic/Democrat. Our Global Economic Woes have been brought about by one cause: Wealth Consolidation. Ditto for our decline from Meritocracy into Kleptocracy and Nepotism. Ditto for our failure to embrace Rule of Law. Ditto for Lack of Access to Opportunity. Ditto for the Lack of Access to Influence Public Policy In A Way That Benefits The Majority. 


The confidence job the American Cultural Right - abetted by the Owners of MSM - has duped certain among us to believe that a return to The Days of The Founding Fathers will Cure All Ills. Riiiiiiiiiiiiiight...


Old Barry and The Dingbat by 5% (under) - 7% (over). That's my prediction. The Electoral College is going to be a Landslide.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 13:54 | 2701215 Kobe Beef
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Ok, so how does Affirmative Action square with Meritocracy?

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 19:28 | 2699544 Absalon
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If Romney and Ryan want to "tell the truth" they should start by telling us what tax expenditures they want to eliminate in their plan to "broaden the base."  So far they have both refused to do so.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 21:27 | 2699850 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Chief KnocAHoma, displaying a degree of faith in "democracy" that can only be called remarkable, said:

With this pick Romney is signaling two things [...] 2 - Lieing to win will only insure the country sinks faster.

Well, yeah, and the sun rises in the east. Too bad for the country that the only way to win is to lie your fucking ass off. You also have to be such a sociopathic cutthroat that you're willing, without hesitation or thinking, to stab in the back anyone that it takes to win.

This is the failure of democracy. The scum floats to the top. The only thing you know for certain about any candidate making an acceptance speech at the D or R convention is that he'd waterboard his mother to win.

If R&R tell the truth and lose,

If R&R tell the truth, they will lose. Voters want to be told things that make them feel good. The last thing they want to hear is the truth.

If they tell the truth and win

That is an impossibility at this level of American party politics.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 17:32 | 2699303 otto skorzeny
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is it too late to make Neil Farage the King of the US- he strikes me as a dapper ball-buster

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 15:53 | 2699115 r00t61
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Politics is like wrestling, except the fighters wear suits instead of spandex, and they throw teleprompted jabs instead of coming off the turnbuckle.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 17:58 | 2699348 pods
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Yeah, but compared to politics, wrestling is REAL!


Sun, 08/12/2012 - 20:06 | 2699627 Spastica Rex
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Pithy +1

As I've said before, the willing suspension of disbelief is the foundation of all our contemporary social systems - political, economic, educational; you name it.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 20:29 | 2699697 Bananamerican
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AKA "the Patronage System"

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 16:48 | 2699218 monoloco
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Howard Fineman had an article on the Fluffington Post today where he called Ryan a libertarian. The guy voted for the Iraq war, the patriot act, the GM bailout, TARP, NCLB, I think Howard should google "libertarian" because he obviously doesn't know the definition of the word. 

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 17:59 | 2699350 pods
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The loss of proper definitions is a big reason why we are in this fiatsco to begin with.

See: Newspeak.


Sun, 08/12/2012 - 21:38 | 2699879 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Doubleplus not untrue.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 22:57 | 2699992 Freddie
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ZH is still loaded with Obama apologists and libtards.  Yeah blue and red.  Yeah we got it.  They are the same but the Islamic is far far far worse and the Democrats and libtards back him 100%.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 00:24 | 2700131 Oldballplayer
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I have read the Koran, and I could live with most of it. It would almost be worth it to see some of the losers running this country, and our media get various parts chopped off in the town square.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 01:15 | 2700186 BooMushroom
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You don't get to choose 'most' of it. Convert or die, infidel.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 06:20 | 2700349 blueridgeviews
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Dude, Obama is a communist.  Romney at least is a capitalist.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 22:38 | 2702890 monad
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Correction. Romney is a bishop in the very, very, very communist Mormon syndicate. Thats like being a catholic priest hellbent on annexing the rest of the seditious USA back into the Latin empire.

They are both slime.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 15:56 | 2699120 Peter Pan
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Dear IndicAtive, the expression is an original, but can you tell me if the two down ticks i have received so far are from the condom manufacturer or the dick? Or perhaps someone owns both?

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 19:29 | 2699548 11b40
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Peter that a hospital utensil?

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 21:32 | 2699863 StychoKiller
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Hmm, ya don't wanna know what they use it for!  (Hint:  look up "Automatic Tampon Remover") :>D

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 16:34 | 2699190 bank guy in Brussels
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It is amazing how corrupt US politics has been, going back to the John Kennedy assassination.

Many people are aware there are huge issues about the JFK assassination ...

But even some of the most 'accepted' American political stories turn out to be frauds.

Like Watergate and Nixon's resignation, which turns out to have been another coup, like with Kennedy.

And yet the Watergate story is cited everywhere - even on ZeroHedge - as an example of successful 'hope and change'. - But it turns out the 'brave Watergate reporters' story is bullsh*t. Another American fraud so deep it is astonishing

The fake 'brave reporter' Bob Woodward working for the US military and elite in a coup, is the real story of the US Watergate scandal and Richard Nixon

In the late 1960s Bob Woodward was in the US Navy working for Naval Intelligence under Admiral Thomas Moorer. In 1970 Admiral Moorer became head of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff, and Woodward left the US Navy to become Washington Post 'reporter'. -

Also in 1970, Admiral Moorer started running a spy ring against the Nixon White House, with the US military thinking Nixon and Kissinger were getting 'soft on Communists' etc. Yeoman Charles Redford stole many White House documents and so on for the joint chiefs, US Admiral Elmo Zumwalt getting some of the documents.

The spy ring - US military against the White House - was discovered at the end of 1971. But just like with the military 'business plot' planned coup in the 1930s against US President Franklin Roosevelt, exposed by US Marine General Smedley Butler ('War is a Racket'), and Roosevelt's agreement not to prosecute the American elite (including grand-pappy Bush) ... Nixon agreed to cover-up the military spy ring.

Perhaps fearing to end up dead like JFK, Nixon always feared to publicly denounce it for the rest of his life.

Despite Nixon's agreement to shut up and not prosecute, the military remained unhappy, along with the American elite, who wanted Nixon out  ... Nixon had come to the same conclusions as Jack Kennedy ... in other words, make some peace with the commies, and try to build a better life for Americans ... Nixon even tried to give everyone in the US European-style health insurance (His 'CHIP' programme.)

So Watergate was magnified into a scandal for a coup, the Washington Post brave 'reporters' Woodward and Bernstein - Woodward still loyal to his old boss Admiral Moorer ... they took Nixon down. A major ally was the manipulative John Dean, Nixon's lawyer in the White House, working his own angles, and betraying Nixon to the coup plotters, and made a 'media darling' from among the Nixon gang, tho Dean maybe was the worst snake among the bunch.

And ever since, the fake Washington Post - John Dean version of the Watergate 'story' has dominated. 'Brave reporters' it wasn't. It was like the killing of JFK in 1963, another American coup, more American government bullsh*t ... and the truth still basically squashed today, by the dominant media framework

A lot of the Watergate facts has come out from investigators Len Colodny and Robert Gettlin, a book 'Silent Coup' ... more detail on this on a website associated with them

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 18:08 | 2699328 pagan
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You are right,  the Watergate story is a load of BS.


But the man who exposed it was the Journalist/Writer  Jim Hougan in his book from 1984.

"Secret agenda"

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 00:11 | 2700111 Buckaroo Banzai
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Gary North has an interesting take on watergate as well. He makes a good case that the Secret Service took Nixon down. Of course they were most likely a catspaw of someone else.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 02:29 | 2700252 Vlad Tepid
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That's why the new administration got the Secret Service hooked on Columbian secret services.  The Praetorians can color themselves mollified.

Tue, 08/14/2012 - 05:28 | 2703158 Clashfan
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The plane crash is interesting, definitely not fiction.

Again, though, North says nothing here about the JFK connection.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 18:08 | 2699367 roadhazard
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 I want to thank whoever got rid of Nixxon. I would say it was Memorex, call me crazy.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 20:19 | 2699670 Spastica Rex
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Higher highs and lower lows:

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 21:40 | 2699884 NumberTwo
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There are two things that convince me that there was more to the JFK assasination than the ignorant masses care to admit/realize.  First, read "I Hear you Paint Houses".  It's just about all in there - no complications, no grandstanding - just a recount of events.

The second, and even stronger case, is that MFer Specter, and his single bullet theory.  Specter was in the DA in Philadelphia at the time.  He may be an ass, but I doubt he ever bought into the crap he put forth.  He was however, greatly rewarded for it.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 06:33 | 2700355 blueridgeviews
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Great example of "the power of the media".

Tue, 08/14/2012 - 05:13 | 2703155 Clashfan
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Interesting, but for all of the above to be true, one needs to work in the erased part of the tapes and what Nixon meant by that "Bay of Pigs thing." Clearly the connection between the Watergate burglary and the JFK hit cannot be ignored, eh?

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 17:14 | 2699265 Meesohaawnee
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yup.. dead on. Biggest waste of time known to man.It blows my mind how many  havent figured that out yet.. If the MSM  had it their way you would have an election forever.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 18:02 | 2699353 pods
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Elections are to convince the people that we in fact ordered the PTB to bend us over.


Sun, 08/12/2012 - 17:40 | 2699315 sessinpo
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I agree with everything except politics is a waste of time. If there is anything legal I can do to protect my assets, political or not, I will do it.

But your statement on colored condoms is noted. We are well past the point of no return in my opinion and thus at the FEDERAL level, all is lost and a reset is unavoidable.

Keep in mind, that throughout all this, some states will emerge in better shape than others do to local politics and that could greatly effect you and it is something one can have more of a say in.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 06:35 | 2700356 blueridgeviews
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NOt only that but what administration do you want in charge when the crisis hits? American or commie?

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 08:17 | 2700448 Loose-Tools
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Don't you mean: "Fascist or Commie?" ? (I think I fixed it for Ya.)

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 18:19 | 2699385 Things that go bump
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Well, being female, with some experience in being screwed, I can assure you that the color of the condom neither enhances nor detracts from the totally screwed experience.  

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 19:17 | 2699511 monad
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Next time try the glow in the dark ones. With the lights out of course.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 20:09 | 2699558 Things that go bump
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Amusing for a moment, perhaps; otherwise, please refer to my comment above.  

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 20:37 | 2699722 monad
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Bore, stroke, squish, timing and spark are all key components of a winning performance. Handling trumps size. Its easier to stay in the zone, negotiating a modern, highly technical course requires intense concentration. Run what you brung. Obviously a chainsaw's not going to cut it... unless you're really drunk. But first you must qualify. The regulations can be pretty ridiculous. After you've been through inspection a few times, its basically the same drill. 

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 20:59 | 2699766 Things that go bump
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Now that was amusing, +1.  I had to read it twice.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 21:37 | 2699875 StychoKiller
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Pick up a copy of "The Wild Girl's Club" by Anka Radokovich -- it's hysterically funny!

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 20:09 | 2699637 Monedas
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Real women don't talk like that ! You're a "tranny", right ?

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 20:16 | 2699646 Things that go bump
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How would you know how women speak?  How do you think women speak when they are with other women?  With all due respect I think my experience on this subject is greater than yours.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 20:47 | 2699744 monad
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Dude, women talk about everything.


Sun, 08/12/2012 - 21:01 | 2699769 Things that go bump
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It is what women are programmed to do.  

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 21:12 | 2699797 monad
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All the spooks had to do was ask women. Could have saved trillions. How could they not know this?

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 21:24 | 2699844 Things that go bump
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What fun would that have been?

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 18:18 | 2699389 Dingleberry
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Peter Pan should teach philosophy.  And he is correct. Neither one will take on the banksters, and nothing else matters.  You are fucked regardless.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 23:55 | 2700091 FreedomGuy
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Peter, I have debated the idea you present so eloquently over time and changed my mind slightly. I used to be hard core traditional conservative and believed the whole Republican vs. Democrat thing in my younger years. Then, when you stand back and you see two parties and pretty much the same result over time, you come around to the idea that there is no fundamental difference or as the saying goes, "There's not a dime's worth of difference between the two parties!"...and that's when a dime would still buy something.

I will meet you halfway on the idea and I would say Romney for most conservatives has been the poster child for RINO's, democrat-light, etc. However, what I think is that there are two parties and two ideologies but they really do not line up with the party boundaries. Without going into great detail, there are a lot of people who favor large government controlled by some form of conservatives. It is over half the Republican party. If you line up proper ideologies using libertarians (not National Socialists) as the far right and commies as the far left, about 70% of the parties and electorate favor some type of large distributive government even if they oppose deficits or high taxes, etc. Personally, I would like to drive them out of the Republican party and into the Democrat party.

My guess is that there are only about 30% of the total population that really care and have some instinct for liberty and only about 10% that even really understand it. Most of these would be some form of libertarian. In a proper two party system you would have a statist party and a libertarian party but we don't. Elements of both are mixed in both parties with most (not all) in the Republican party or one of the small conservative parties. The benefit would be that when the collectivist government failed (and it will) there would be a clear party choice to go the other direction.  The biggest problem Republicans like Romney have is that they have no clear guiding ideology and therefore get rolled over time. That is why there has been roughly a century of steady leftist progress in America and even Europe, in general. Republicans have actually brought in more big government than Democrats. Democrats push steadily left, consistently. Once Republicans they always do over time, then things move rapidly. Nixon spun off agencies as well as FDR and took us off the gold standard, similar to FDR repricing gold. They were theoretical opposites but not so in practice. There is no Ron Paul type opposition or truly different direction.

The last point is that I think the Dems and even Romney know that what killed McCain last election was not so much Obama's brilliance but a high percentage of conservative Republicans had enough...enough of George Bush and still moving left so they sat it out. That is why I agree with this article. Ryan is a desperation play. I am politically active and many many conservatives, especially the libertarian leaning have sworn not to support Romney in any way. The Tea Party is a minority but they actually have the batteries within the Rep. party and do the ground pounding for the party. The only reason Romney has a chance is because Obama is so far left that many will give up on their ideology. If they don't then Romney will lose big. Ryan is the attempt to placate that group, I believe.

I will make another strong prediction. If Romney wins and then wimps out on repealing Obamacare ( I think it is 50-50) then I believe you will see the formation of a large third party made up of a loose alliance of the Libertarian party and Tea Party members. This will be the first true political revolution in over a hundred years. In fact, it is necessary or America is thoroughly screwed the red and blue condoms.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 03:58 | 2700283 taeonu
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Obama is far left?  Obama is the best Republican president since Clinton.  The problem that most conservatives have with Romney is that he has a hard time getting to the right of Obama.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 10:49 | 2700802 FreedomGuy
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I truly believe Obama would go hard left if he could get away with it a.k.a. Hugo Chavez. However, on many things you are correct. Romney's healthcare plan for Mass. was the model for Obama and the USA. What kind of choice is that? The primary difference is I believe that Romney has a pragmatic side economically and no hard left designs. Obama is completely clueless on economics or wants an implosion. Both are definitely large government and have no paritcular ideological opposition to expansive government powers. That is why I would like to drive these types of Republicans out of the party into their proper party. They are really just conservative Democrats.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 14:12 | 2701275 Kobe Beef
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If Romney wins the convention & wants to keep the the Tea Party: Nominate Ron Paul for Treasury Secretary.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 23:21 | 2702948 TURBO
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Feel free to crawl out of yo mama's basement anytime for a breath of reality.

Let me guess: you're appx 40 lbs overweight; balding; no girlfriend prospects; and you're a Lib.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 15:33 | 2699065 MillionDollarBonus_
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My decision to support Mitt Romney in the upcoming Presidential election remains unchanged. Obama had his chance, and he failed to deliver the necessary fiscal stimulus programs to get our economy back on track. Mitt Romney has what it take to create growth and straighten out the economy, and what’s more he doesn’t pull punches. Mitt Romney may be a highly controversial candidate, with some radical ideas for promoting growth in America coupled with an unapologetic dedication to promoting green technologies; but we need a candidate with the strength to stand up for the principles that all Americans believe in. Shake things up in Washington - vote Mitt Romney in 2012. 

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 15:33 | 2699076 bonderøven-farm ass
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+1.....your sarcasm is first class MDB.  

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 16:51 | 2699224 HarryM
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How could the Dems say Boo about Ryan - Look at the VP they elected


Sun, 08/12/2012 - 20:14 | 2699653 Monedas
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As it turns out .... that was Obama's finest moment .... it all went further downhill after that mistake !

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 14:14 | 2701280 Kobe Beef
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Dems are not strong on logic.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 16:31 | 2699182 LoneStarHog
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Please spend more time counting your shares of Facebook and less time posting on ZeroHedge.  Thank you.....

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 16:53 | 2699223 CompassionateFascist
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A green to MDB. Just to keep it an exciting race. Right now it's 22::21! And about as significant as Robama vs. Obamany.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 17:33 | 2699306 otto skorzeny
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Sun, 08/12/2012 - 20:21 | 2699676 gatorengineer
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Given MDBs record, which is either a perfect score or a perfect zero depending upon how you look at it... Obama just won.....

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 16:23 | 2699066 Jay Gould Esq.
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I disagree with the author in that Romney's selection of Rep. Ryan was a pure "sign of desperation." Quite the contrary: Romney selected a candidate in whom he sees a man whose analytical skills and economic views to be in perfect alignment with his own. "Austerity" ( or whatever one may wish to label the American equivalent of this European term for budget restraint/deficit reduction ) is completely unpalatable to the 53% who, in 2008, voted for he who is the current president, and very likely undesireable to a portion of the 47% who did not. This was a selection based upon Romney's personal principles -- not a selection based upon "flash" or outward affability on the part of the potential running mate. Rep. Ryan, unfortunately, will likely be spending most of his time on the campaign trail deflecting questions targeting his own record and positions, rather than contrasting Romney's positions with the Opposition. Time, at this point in the campaign, is a precious commodity; now, quite likely, and courtesy of a GOP-hostile/Administration-friendly media, much GOP time and effort will be expended "defending" the running mate...Dan Quayle II.

Romney, in this selection of Ryan, is making a statement, underscoring the former governor's personal ideology, regarding several economic themes; in contrast, if Romney sought the best candidate with whom to aggressively campaign and offer the best possible outcome in November -- victory, with material coattails -- he should have selected Sen. Marco Rubio.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 16:39 | 2699197 OneTinSoldier66
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Just like the NDAA that they both voted for, Paul Ryan and Marco Rubio both suck.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 00:09 | 2700107 OpenThePodBayDoorHAL
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Ryan = Triple FAIL:

1. He announced on the deck of a battleship. That may play well with Mitt's redneck warmonger base but everyone else is sick and tired of war and war spending. Politically tone deaf by Mitt.

2. Paul Ryan: a divisive, nasty little fucker. Look at those snake eyes. Again, plays well with the base but will turn off moderates and independents and those are the ones who will decide this thing. Again politically tone deaf by Mitt.

3. Flubbed the announcement:  "I want to introduce the next PRESIDENT of the United States...". Fer chrissakes Willard, this shit matters, the country doesn't want another empty suit who was born with a silver foot in his mouth.

Willard = John Kerry.

So four more painful years of Obomba...


Mon, 08/13/2012 - 22:36 | 2702885 TURBO
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Spoken like a typical Lib. See you in November my "friend".....

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 00:33 | 2700137 Oldballplayer
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Accounts suck. period. No one will want to listen to his crap.

Romney better start posting his pictures of Barry with a little boy or a big ram. This thing will be over before the NFL season starts.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 16:07 | 2699141 whoisjohngalt11
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  (so lets take a look at what exactly makes Ryan such a risk.) wow zero hedge is letting this crap go on it's front page??

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 15:09 | 2699018 AnonymousAnarchist
Sun, 08/12/2012 - 15:39 | 2699085 Likstane
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 "This bill offends my principles, but I'm going to vote for this bill to preserve my principles, in order to preserve the free enterprise system...." 

What a well-principled man. 

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 16:39 | 2699198 LMAOLORI
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AnonymousAnarchist Paul "TARP" Ryan: I'm scared. Give them your money.

OBAMA: Senate Must Pass Bailout, "Do What's Right for the Country"

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 17:03 | 2699246 monoloco
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Isn;t it amazing, the bi-partisanship when it comes to protecting the bankers who finance their campaigns?

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 17:45 | 2699324 AnonymousAnarchist
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Yep. Isn't it silly to see people have these serious (in their minds), drawn-out arguments about why this election is so important and why everyone must vote for Obama/Romney because if Obama/Romney wins then [insert something naive/gullible/clueless people believe]. At least it gives people who take professional wrestling seriously someone to make fun of.

OT: Has everyone been following the TrapWire story? If not, you should. ICYMI has been aggregating the best coverage.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 02:00 | 2700234 SheHunter
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Yes AA. It IS silly to see the ZH readers taking turns pawing, snorting and righteously defending the hollow, similar turf of their 2 parties. Or it would be silly if it were not so discouraging. Guillotine all of them say I. And pretty boy Jamie with them.

Tue, 08/14/2012 - 05:39 | 2703163 Clashfan
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Thanks AA. Thanks.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 15:16 | 2699031 knukles
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Don't be any too sure.
"Galvanizing the conservative base?"
Define Conservative.
If in the Good Olde Goldwater/Paul type tradition, it didn't galvanize shit.
And that was the part of the base which needed galvanizing, along with the Independents.
If defined as most use it today, as a neo-con, ain't nothin' gotta be galvanized because they're already into the voting for Anybody But Obama and His Communist Allies mode of thinking.

Galvanize shit.
Don't be so sure.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 15:23 | 2699046 TheFourthStooge-ing
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This article is a sign of desperation.  Romney and Ryan will win, period, and they have to if America is to have any hope of solvency ever again.

Your comment is a sign of delusion. America has no hope of solvency ever again.

That is the failure of democracy. If the US is to put its financial affairs in order, it will require electing a president and entire congress, house and senate, consisting of honest, courageous politicians that put the interests of the nation as a whole ahead of their personal interests and the interests of political parties. Such politicians would never be elected in numbers amounting to more than single digits.

There is no political solution to the insolvency of the US.

Go back to playing Zelda.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 16:30 | 2699179 alfbell
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Right on TheFourth-Stoog-ing --

This is what Americans need to realize. But they are so in the dark due to the MSM, Obama's BS speeches full of false information and misdirection, being pinned to the hamster wheel so that they can support their families, etc. etc.

Spin... crash... burn.


The only logical ending. It isn't difficult to determine consequences if you look at some history and some statistics.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 15:25 | 2699054 LawsofPhysics
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"The banks will win" - Fixed it for you.

That's a good sheep, ignore the voting record  and go back to sleep.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 15:29 | 2699059 Cult_of_Reason
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I agree, the author, Arkady, is an opinionated left wing liberal shill pretending to be a libertarian (there are many like him, ass-hat Ritholtz is another liberal swine pretending to be a libertarian).

Give us a break Arkady, we are not stupid here, go fuck yourself with your overinflated grandiose left wing ideations.

You have just wasted five minutes of my valuable time Arkady.


Sun, 08/12/2012 - 17:33 | 2699308 LMAOLORI
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ROFLMAO "LEAVE BARRY ALONE" the other Barry doesn't want them at his site

The Ridiculous Comment

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 02:18 | 2700241 SheHunter
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Let's see the definition of left wing liberal. And of right wing conservative. Only be careful with that definition of conservative as it pertains to individual freedom. You want a party telling you what you do in your home and bedroom? That in the event a loved one becomes comatose and kept alive only by machines that you have no right to make a choice of graceful death? What prayers you must recite in public? Is that the life you want to live? Get off your fucking hypocritical bandwagon. The GOP party went off their rocker when they began to try and appease their right-wing religious fanatics. If your 16 year old daughter comes to you in tears pregnant because she has been held down by one man and raped by another and she tells you she will hate looking at this child the GOP decrees she will carry, bear and raise....will you look at her and say "Daughter, you must have this child. Abortion is a sin." wake the F up. This party wants to take your most personal liberties under the guise of some concocted god. I may agree with their fiscal values but nothing- nothing is more important than our individual freedoms. And you may hate gays, disagree with abortion and only practice the missionary position once a month with all your clothes left on but let them take these freedoms from us and there will be others that follow.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 04:19 | 2700294 taeonu
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Leftwing vs Rightwing.  LMFAO.  At one end you have the State controlling the Corporations (Communism) and at the other end you have the Corporations controlling the State (Fascism).  In case you didn't notice that's the same freakin' thing.  Now go fight with your neighbor about it while the Corporate Politicians steal your retirement.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 15:30 | 2699071 Bindar Dundat
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I could not agree more and all the socialists that infect this site should join a Union of Jew hating communists.  Creepy here actually!




Sun, 08/12/2012 - 15:49 | 2699107 Buckaroo Banzai
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There has indeed been a socialist invasion here lately.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 15:56 | 2699122 Bay of Pigs
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Socialists? I prefer the term "troll" or "simpleton".

They won't get anywhere here.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 16:00 | 2699132 MillionDollarBonus_
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Zero Hedge IS a socialist site now, and you better get used to it. The progressive revolution is spreading, and there's nothing nerdy libertarians can do stop it. 

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 18:12 | 2699377 toady
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Mon, 08/13/2012 - 00:52 | 2700158 OpenThePodBayDoorHAL
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OK let's pretend you really did get a Million Dollar Bonus. Do you have any friggin clue how lucky that makes you compared to 98% of the rest of the country? Like the 1.5 million homeless children, sleeping under bridges and in cars? In America, the "richest country on Earth"? Like the entire US middle class, who will have a lower standard of living than their parents while CEOs make 247X the pay of a shop floor worker? For the workers WITH health insurance who will file bankruptcy this year due to medical expenses? Those are the real PROGRESSIVE issues, like 'em or not. And no, OBOMBA is NOT a progressive. He is a bankster bailing, military-loving destroyer of civil liberties and constitutional freedoms.

So, yes, some "nerdy libertarians" actually do give a shit about their fellow man and the values and systems that made this country great, now hijacked and thieved away by the likes of people like you. Good luck in your gated community when the crowds with pitchforks and torches shows up...

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 16:00 | 2699131 defencev
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Precsely my feeling. It looks like Obamanites are paid to pretend to be libertarians and post here with only one message: do not vote for Romney. The very fact that Obama campaign to fall so low to start their "agitka" here is a clear sign of desperation. Plus add to that a bunch of fucking idiots who simply scared to death to lose their welfare check or other government handout and post here and elsewhere their garbage.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 17:13 | 2699260 monoloco
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This year on election day, I'll be staying home and doing something more important, like cleaning my toenails, rather than wasting my time affirmming the legitimacy of the corporately owned, neo-liberal douopoly.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 18:07 | 2699365 pods
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Sun, 08/12/2012 - 20:23 | 2699687 House of Medici
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That'll teach 'em!  The duopolists are going to be soooo mad at you.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 04:48 | 2700309 CaptainObvious
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This year on election day, I'll be going to the polling booth and writing in Ron Paul.  That way, my opinion is registered (not like it will influence the outcome in any way, really), but neither one of the two fucktards still in the running get my vote.

Obummer/Biden and Mittens/Ryan both make me want to vomit my intestines out through my nose.  Team Blue?  Team Red?  Fuck that noise; it's all Team Green, baby.  Whatever choices they make are the ones that put the most fiat in their pockets and to hell with the people they're supposed to be representing.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 22:49 | 2702904 TURBO
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If you want to piss your vote away, sorry for you. At least you won't be casting it for the Columbia U. Foreign Student-In-Chief.......

And Obama is spending millions preventing his transcripts from reaching the light of day why exactly??  Was it because....

   -A+ in Alinsky studies?  F in economics?  A in communism? A in Chicago -style politics? A+ in affirmative action? F in Constitutional Law? F in social security card fraud? (no wait, make that an A); A in Soros open-borders philosophy studies?

"From my house I can see November"   ROMNEY/RYAN 2012 !!

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 18:35 | 2699410 Harbanger
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Spot on!

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 20:22 | 2699683 gatorengineer
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95% of Jews are Liberals, and 95% of liberals hate jews..... Go figure......  Not anti-semetic, just a fact.

Mon, 08/13/2012 - 04:26 | 2700300 taeonu
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95% of statistics are made up on the spot.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 15:38 | 2699084 kliguy38
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be a patriot and vote're programmed can't help it

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 15:58 | 2699125 Red Heeler
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It reminds me of the time Cowboy Bob Kelly chose Mike the California Hippie Boyette to be his partner in the Death-Ring-No-Holds-Barred Gulf Coast Wrestling Chmpionship back in '73. Everyone was surprised by the pairing. 

They squared off against Gorgeous George Junior and . . . . I disremember the other wrestler after all this time.

Some people said it was all fake but most people thought it was real.

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 16:11 | 2699152 LarryDavis
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Romney and Ryan are a laughing stock and nothing more. The idea of candidate with Romney's money and Koch Brothers backing losing (and lose he will) is a testament to the scumbag he is. As for Ryan, he should go back to lifting because he sucks as a human and poitician. Ryan's voting record is as bad as I've seen. If he should lose I'd imagine he could have a fantstic career in investment banking. You do not want these assholes in office. Obama ain't great either. America is pretty fucked. 

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 16:48 | 2699219 Calmyourself
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Because the Koch brothers are so much more evil than soros and the wall street banking cabal behind the current POS??  Romney is not as bad as Obama, adults have the capacity to weigh alternatives try it you might like it..  Of course I get the inkling the bamster winning would not worry you too much ..

Sun, 08/12/2012 - 23:38 | 2700057 LarryDavis
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Go fuck yourself. Romney epitomizes everything wrong with America. HE HAS NO INTEGRITY. 

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