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Guest Post: NDAA Protests End In Ironic Swarm Of Arrests

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Submitted by Brandon Smith from Alt-Market

NDAA Protests End In Ironic Swarm Of Arrests

The absurdity of America today never ceases to amaze.  In fact, it has become so elaborate that one might even suggest it has reached a kind of poetic symmetry.  When a protest group is willing to stick their necks out to expose the horror of the National Defense Authorization Act and its open door strategy for unconstitutional arrest and indefinite detainment of American citizens, I have to stand up and applaud.  This is the kind of protest we need to see all over the country.  Of course, any establishment system which is willing to dissolve the inherent liberties of its citizens certainly isn't going to stand by quietly while they blatantly point out the injustice.  The Grand Central Terminal action featured in the video below is a perfect example of the swift and immediate stifling of peaceful dissent by an increasingly totalitarian government:

Responses to the event vary.  Most people who have actually been exposed to the facts on the NDAA have expressed utter disgust and fury.  Rightly so.  Some, however, have taken the old elitist mantra, perpetuated effectively by the Neo-Cons in their heyday, that if you are not for the system, then you are a danger to society.  Not surprisingly, there are still plenty of useful idiots out there buzzing about like parasites in search of blood.

For those who would applaud these arrests, and suggest that they are well deserved, I would have to ask very pointedly; why?

Is it right to crush free speech as long as the message is offensive to you personally?  Do peaceful protestors really present a legitimate threat to our national stability?  Are they truly more dangerous than a corrupt government hellbent on assassinating the legal protections of our natural rights which have existed for centuries?  Would any supporter of the jackboot methodology like to explain to me in a coherent manner why they believe their skewed world view should be shielded from sincere questions?  Please, I can't wait to witness the kind of ridiculous mental gymnastics required to make such arguments palatable.  If this kind of ignorance wasn't so destructive, it might actually be entertaining.

The bottom line is, it doesn't matter if these activists were in Grand Central Terminal, on the streets, or busting through the doors of the Oval Office.  While New York authorities will attempt to argue property loopholes in free speech protections for Grand Central, or national security because of the vulnerability of the terminal, really, this has nothing to do with either.  This is about the removal of American voices from a room, and nothing more.   If the message is going to be suppressed by the mainstream media, and shrugged off by representatives, then protesters must go to where the people are, and make the truth heard by whatever means necessary.

Ultimately, activism is about disturbing people's normal mundane routines and shocking them out of their pop-culture stupor, even if for a moment.  If we aren't allowed to do that without constant police intervention, then the First Amendment is not being served, and then, my friends, we have a problem, a problem which should be forced down the throat of government with even more public action.


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Tue, 01/10/2012 - 12:06 | 2050376 Kayman
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I watched a foreign film once where the woman was so pissed off, that she put crushed glass in her honey pot.

So screw me too; and have some fun.

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 14:34 | 2051027 RichardENixon
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Cries and Whispers Directed by Ingmar Bergman

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 14:55 | 2051144 Spastica Rex
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Tue, 01/10/2012 - 10:59 | 2050051 Sandmann
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Hadn't known about this. Sounds like RIPA and Civil Contingencies Act 2004 in Britain. Funny how ALL these Governments rushed such legislation through corrupt and docile legislatures around the same time. Global Conspiracy is not coming from a bunch of wildcat terrorists but from Organ Grinders' Monkeys protecting their paymasters from Angry Voters taxed into servitude to fund the Bankrupt Banker Cartel

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 11:04 | 2050065 red_pill_rash
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You Buckle to fear....They Lose.




Tue, 01/10/2012 - 15:51 | 2051412 DosZap
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I do not get it.IF this was a lawful assembly..........................

The protesters (unless they were breaking a law,I am not aware of).

Outnumbered the police 100-1,they should have taken the cops down, and cuffed them, and put em in a corner.

There was no reason given the overwhelming ratio,for them to allow the arrest of any speakers.

You say, sure but more would come, OK,meet em at the door, and take them down also.

Cuff em ( NO physical violence when doing so),UNLESS it was first initiated by the Cops.

Again, unless there was an issue/law being broken by the speakers, this should have been nipped in the bud right there.

If it comes to force against force, then so be it.

This cannot be allowed to stand,if they think WE are going to go quietly into that goodnight, they are sadly mistaken.(many will, many wont).

IF you do kowtow, YOUR choice was made by you.

Live with it.

The Rights we have under the Constitution, and Amendments, and BOR"s TRUMP this illegal order. And I will die to defend it.

Any law that does not agree with Constitutional Law is NO LAW and you are Commanded to DISOBEY it.

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 20:24 | 2052394 red_pill_rash
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Well said DosZap, I hope I have the guts to say NO when I'm ordered to comply with an unconstitutional order.  We're all going to be finding out about ourselves in the not to distant future....


Tue, 01/10/2012 - 11:20 | 2050067 Dr. Engali
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This will not end well, but the problem is too many people are to afraid to upset the system or they are too comfortable be to be disturbed. I don't know what it will take before people are finally pushed too far. My guess is that it's going to require them get alot hungrier before any real change happens. The dude yelling about the first amendment needs to remember that the second amendment was meant to support the first amendment.

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 11:07 | 2050076 uno
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24 hour MSM news can't find time for this short video

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 13:04 | 2050609 Zero Debt
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Or there will be a video of a train station building and then when someone shouts something the feed goes bad. Technical problem. Audio issues. Back to the studio.

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 11:07 | 2050079 americanspirit
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May I suggest that any who care about this print up a bumper sticker for your vehicle that says NDAA = Tyranny and then carry a videocam at all times? Let's test whether the order has actually gone out to the rank & file to pro-actively suppress dissent wherever it appears, not just during protest events on 'public property' like Grand Central Station. I've just put that sticker on my truck and I can't wait to see what happens when the first deputy sheriff's car appears behind me. Stay tuned for my report, assuming I am able to make one.

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 12:24 | 2050461 Clorox Cowboy
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Well americanspirit, it was nice knowing you...

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 11:08 | 2050083 BLOTTO
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America = new Atlantis

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 11:10 | 2050100 BLOTTO
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At what point does the switch go off that - no matter what candidate gets it - its already tainted.

The 'beast' needs to be cut-off at the head - we aren't looking high up enough on the 'pyramid' to where the root of the problem is...

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 11:10 | 2050101 NotApplicable
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STFU & GBTW, bitchez!

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 11:11 | 2050104 pupton
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I was on the fence about Occupy, and still am, but I am moving closer when I see stuff like this.  They are protesting something EVERY American should.  They have a clear target of their protest, and good legal standing for their coherent demand - repeal of an unconstitutional law.

Occupy - 1

NDAA - 0

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 11:13 | 2050120 Redfish
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No, the problem is there are radical and disillisioned individuals with no respect for the law, who desire to protest against any form of authority.  The video clip you embedded in this thread clearly shows the police under increasing risk with individuals surrounding them, as opposed to allowing them to perform their job.  

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 11:15 | 2050140 Bob
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Bullshit.  They had no consitutionally legitimate reason to be putting themselves into the middle of a protest crowd so that they could then go fascist about the grave danger they faced in being "surrounded." 


Tue, 01/10/2012 - 11:38 | 2050257 Coast Watcher
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Thinking may be asking too much of some people. When they think, they don't like the conclusions they reach. It upsets their American Idol schedule.

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 11:27 | 2050199 kridkrid
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There is clearly only one reason for you to be posting on this forum.  

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 13:05 | 2050613 Zero Debt
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Who pays you to post here?

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 11:12 | 2050122 Redfish
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No, the problem is there are radical and disillisioned individuals with no respect for the law, who desire to protest against any form of authority.  The video clip you embedded in this thread clearly shows the police under increasing risk with individuals surrounding them, as opposed to allowing them to perform their job.  

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 14:37 | 2051046 Badabing
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Looks like whoever is the prompter for the human megaphone is taken out no matter how far into the crowd they are. That cop has balls going in like that! The cop by the way was a instigator of violence so look again.

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 11:13 | 2050126 Titan Uranus
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Isn't this about where the Reichstag catches fire?

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 11:31 | 2050217 kridkrid
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And when it does, you'll know right away who did it.  If the media pays little attention, it will be a legit protest.  If the media completely blows it up, it will be your false flag (Reichstag fire).  Two events... the man who flew his plane into the IRS building in Texas and the underware bomber.  One caused damage, on didn't.  One had a manifesto, the other was some sort of nebulous character.  The IRS event barely made a 24 hour news cycle.

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 21:21 | 2052592 DosZap
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the man who flew his plane into the IRS building in Texas and the underware bomber.  One caused damage, on didn't.  One had a manifesto, the other


Was a DEMOCRAT..................LOL,no shit!

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 11:32 | 2050228 fuu
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No that happend a little over 11 years ago.

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 12:00 | 2050282 kridkrid
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a little different.  that "pearl harbor moment" allowed us to unleash our military abroad.  The reichstag fire will allow us to unleash our police state domestically.

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 13:56 | 2050807 fuu
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While the military was focused outward the surveillance was turned inward. Privacy vanished.

I see your point though.

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 13:56 | 2050808 fuu
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Tue, 01/10/2012 - 11:14 | 2050131 mr1963
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These are just the few first steps the government is taking. As more and more protest, take action, and the politicians feel "threatened", it'll get harsher.

In Indiana, it's now lawful for police to enter your home without a warrent and against your wishes "if they think something is wrong." Ouch

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 12:30 | 2050480 Clorox Cowboy
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You forgot to mention that under this decision by the Indiana Supreme Court it's illegal for anyone in that state to interfere with the police in any way, shape or form...even if it's later proven that the police themselves were acting illegally.


A cop in Indiana can kick down your front door and rape your wife and young daughters, and yes they would probably go to jail for it...but if you raise a hand to stop it, YOU could be joining them in prison!!


Chew on that America.  The end is upon us TODAY.  Right now.

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 13:15 | 2050658 Randall Cabot
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Indiana of all places.

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 11:19 | 2050159 walcott
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participating in this horseshit soft parade realty any longer is horrendous.

Look at how these goon cops get off on beating this chick and anybody!

Their eyes light up. It's disgusting and people in this country still support this?

Be the slave buy into the commercial american idol crap or the nazis will kill you.


Fuck that!


Successful hills are here to stay 
Everything must be this way 
Gentle streets where people play 
Welcome to the Soft Parade 

All our lives we sweat and save 
Building for a shallow grave 
Must be something else we say 
Somehow to defend this place 
Everything must be this way 
Everything must be this way, yeah 


- Jim Morrison

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 11:41 | 2050270 nowhereman
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I'm sure you too have noticed the proliferation of "Cop" shows on TVEE.

If it's not SWAT it's DEA or Border Patrol or CSI in all it's locals or Law and Order in all it's forms.  Each and everyone telling you, no, indoctrinating you to the point that you cannot ever get away from the long arm of the law.

Most interesting is the new program "Person of Interest".  You are being monitored at all times, get used to it, this isn't science fiction.

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 12:14 | 2050417 XitSam
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Watch the cop shows. The police always ask "What have you been arrested for?" The trick is if you don't exactly list all your prior arrests, they have you for making false statements to a police officer. Now they don't really care about that, but they use it as leverage to get a confession to the crime they really want to bust someone for. "You lied to me about your prior arrests and you could go to jail for that, so just tell me who owns the meth I found in your shoe."

The clincher is, arrests don't matter, only convictions.

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 11:25 | 2050163 Mercury
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This is about the removal of American voices from a room, and nothing more.

But some voices get removed sooner than others.  The protestors should have at least called themselves "Occupy NDAA".  OWS got/gets the fawning media attention and extensive law enforcement tolerance because they don't really agitate against or protest the government.

I'm sure the NAACP et al are outraged.  Remember when the Left thought dissent was "patriotic"?

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 11:31 | 2050221 ParaZite
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It's time for ALL of us to stop being such pussies and fight for our rights.

The courts won't help us. The police won't help us. The American Sheeple will not help us.

It only took 3% of the people to win our freedom from the British. I wonder if the mindwashed 99% could be as effective! 


Tue, 01/10/2012 - 11:36 | 2050224 Monedas
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NDAA does not apply to are some exceptions !    Monedas 2012 Comedy Jihad Don't tread on  litter our parks !

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 11:33 | 2050231 andyupnorth
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I told my father-in-law about Obama signing this indefinite-detention-of-citizens on any suspicion of terrorism, and he thought it was a GREAT idea!!!

IT TOOK ME 10 MINUTES until he finally got convinced that it was a bad thing! ARRRRGGGGGGHHHH!!!!

This man was an engineer in the Old Country (i.e. educated) and is a super peaceful and forgiving Christian (a real Ned Flanders).  However, he has personally suffered from persecution from Islam in the Old Country, and is constantly thinking about the past thousand years of persecution of our ancestors which has continued up to this day.  On the other hand, he also lived through dictatorships in the Old Country.

So basically, it took him 10 minutes to drop the whole terrorist-obsession and say, "hey, that's exactly what xyz dictator used to do!"

I don't understand; this man is not Amerikan; he's been living in Canada for the past 20ish years.  I thought it was only Americans who were brainwashed into thinking that Islamic terrorism is a constant imminent threat.  For example, I made him realize that airport security is only for protecting the aircrafts, not the people (since the people are sitting ducks at whatever security-gate bottleneck, etc).

I'm so disheartened.

[/end rant]

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 12:35 | 2050496 Bob
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In an American context, 10 minutes to overcome existing prejudices and fully comprehend our situation is worthy of the highest praise.  Props for stirring him to it!

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 13:19 | 2050669 Randall Cabot
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Canada is actually further along than the US, Britain too. 

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 11:46 | 2050245 chdwlch1
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double post

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 11:36 | 2050247 FubarNation
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There should be riots in the fucking streets.

Is everyone asleep?  This is what happened in Germany and numerous other places.

Get your US citizenship taken away?  What the fuck do you do if you have given up your native citizenship to be blessed with your now revokable US papers?

The insanity continues.  I should keep my mouth shut.  I'm one of those who is Naturalized - well as long as my loving Federal overlords deem me to be.

RIP - Bill of rights, rule of law, Constitution, etc.

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 11:55 | 2050335 obelisks
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" This is what happened in Germany and numerous other places."


And if anyone is in doubt about that you need to read this book....

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 14:01 | 2050828 Beard of Zeus
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It's worse than Germany.

It's the effing Soviet Union bitchez!

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 11:36 | 2050248 DogSlime
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Here in the UK, citizens can be detained without charge for 14 days.  There was uproar about that when it was passed.  Some politicians want to raise it to 28 days but there is very stiff resistance.

I always looked at the UK as far more draconian than the USA.  I'm starting to think that the US police state is now significantly worse than the UK police state.

I NEVER thought I would say that.

Good luck guys.

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 11:58 | 2050345 obelisks
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I am also a Brit and I lived and worked in USA ( LAX ) in 1980 . USA today is totally unrecognisable to me

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 17:12 | 2051707 smiler03
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Prevention of Terrorism Act. Another fine gift along with RIPA from the fascist Labour Party

I agree the US versus UK, I also never thought I would say that.

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 11:48 | 2050304 Seasmoke
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that fucking white shirt female , throwing people around,  should get knocked out cold .......she thinks because she has a badge its going to protect her .......SURPRISE HER !

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 11:51 | 2050316 kurzdump
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Things like that make me sad. Why cant we just screw it all and start up a new system based on sustainability and freedom. It makes no sense to conitunue like that - nature will prove that it wont work anyway.

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 11:59 | 2050353 Kinskian
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The value of US citizenship has been going down for decades. Green Card Lotteries and open borders aren't proof of American generosity or that "all men are created equal", rather they are proof that the US government holds native born US citizens in equal contempt with the inhabitants of third world slums. We're only beginning to see the endgame, a diverse, multicultural police state.

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 12:00 | 2050356 Dcheeth2
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Welcome to our world.

You get arrested and your camera siezed if you are just innocently doing what you've always done in London.

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 12:06 | 2050374 DogSlime
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Yep, and when that law came in, I remember saying "This would never happen in America - they have a proper constitution."


Tue, 01/10/2012 - 15:49 | 2051400 Strelok
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I never cease to be amazed when thinking "What kind of shitty, dumb f**king cop does it take to make such an arrest in the first place?"  If his fellow cops gave a shit, they should have beat him down to teach him a lesson.  Instead, they turn a blind eye.  That's why I'm of the opinion that it's the bad apples that give the other 5% a bad name.  Or, similarly, if there were any good cops, there would be no bad cops. 

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 12:03 | 2050365 Dcheeth2
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All it takes, is one adrenalin fuelled copper to pull out his handgun, and you've lost it completly.

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 12:03 | 2050366 Quinvarius
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At least the cops can return their fortresses or bases at night where they are safe from retaliation like all other historical enforcer classes.  It would be pretty stupid of them to act this way if they actually had to live amongst the population.

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 13:21 | 2050679 Randall Cabot
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They do live among the population. Where do you think they live?

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 16:16 | 2051518 DosZap
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Police are citizens also, cops second.

When they leave the force they are just like you and I.They know this.

They have homes,families, and lives.

They have no fortresses,do you think a Police station is safe for the Police?, NOT.

Anyone can take them down.

IF they become fascist in nature,break LAWS in the name of the LAW instead of what Police are supposed to do,then they will have to move underground, and remove their families from normal life. Living in constant fear goes BOTH ways.

You know their names,(or easy to find out) its easy to find out where they live, and retribution can be served up in innumerable ways.

While I AM NOT ADVOCATING this as a provocation/attack on/against  them IN ANY WAY.

We do not become lawless, unless the situation MAKES us. IF you are in the right under REAL LAW,then taking abuse from the LAW, that are acting another story.

IF the day comes,then NO one will be safe, them included.

Esp them.

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 12:05 | 2050370 ArgentDawn
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Invest heaily in Ak's/AR's...

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 12:07 | 2050378 TDoS
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February 3rd is a national day of action to protest NDAA.  Get everyone you know and take to the streets. 

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 12:21 | 2050449 Savonarola
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To the young, to the left, and to the complacent middle... take your II-A responsibilty more seriously.

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 12:38 | 2050503 Spastica Rex
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Symbols - interesting stuff.

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 13:10 | 2050596 walcott
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Numbers are too. The Ducks jersey number 24

24 numerology

2 + 4 = 6

24 divided by 2 = 12 multiple of 6 and 6

24 = 666

notice in the photo 6 rays behind his arms.

this 666 shit and the pyramids and the eyeballs are all over the place like the swastikas 1930's - 1945 Germany

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 12:52 | 2050564 kridkrid
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The 1937 film has the following warning ahead of it:

The following content has been identified by the YouTube community as being potentially offensive or inappropriate. Viewer discretion is advised."

There was nothing in the flim other than kids playing and soldier drinking beer.  There was not a thing that was offensive or inappropriate in the film.  The belief that "it can't happen here" is inappropriate or offensive, but not this film.  The film should be required viewing.

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 13:04 | 2050608 Spastica Rex
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Yes - that "disclaimer" struck me as really weird.

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 13:25 | 2050697 Randall Cabot
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The comparisons with Nazi Germany are lame. Most Germans were quite proud and supportive of the country even if they weren't Nazis.

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 13:39 | 2050744 kridkrid
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You don't think Americans are Rah-rah USA?  I think they are and I think they can be made to be exactly as rah-rah as you might need them. It's coming.

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 13:48 | 2050779 Randall Cabot
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Only a few.

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 15:10 | 2051208 Spastica Rex
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Wow - that's a dubious assertion.

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 15:46 | 2051384 Randall Cabot
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You talking to me?

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 15:55 | 2051435 Strelok
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America!  F**K YEA!

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 13:29 | 2050701 Randall Cabot
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Same thing in Italy but not in jewish Bolshevik Russia.

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 12:40 | 2050512 ThisIsBob
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...government of the people, by the people, for the people...

Didn't that turn into a load of tripe.

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 12:55 | 2050575 Conax
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Bill of Rights?

We don't need no Bill of Rights! We want to be safe from angry peons, safe from shouting soccer moms holding signs.

Remember, Civil Disobedience is still Disobedience! Let the beatings, torture and deportations begin.

You lose your citizenship and we deport you .... er... to someplace!

----signed, Your elected Representative

Thank you ES&S/Diebold, for making us safe from free roaming americans.

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 13:05 | 2050612 TheObsoleteMan
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I always see caucasians, hispanics, and a few asians at all of these protests, but I have yet to see any african-americans. Is it counter to their culture not to want to march, protest or otherwise exercise their 1st Ammendment rights? I think we all know the answer to that. Where is Jesse and Big Al? The gubmint knows what happens when whites, asians and latinos march: NOTHING. But with blacks it is another story. Police cars and buildings get torched. Molotov cocktails get throw at the riot squad. Shit actually happens so to speak. They have mainly been taken out of the equation because a blackman {he's really mullatoo} is sitting in the White House, and few if any want to appear to their 'brothas & sistas" as being a traitor. Jesse and Big Al couldn't care two shits as long as Obama is in office. They are in the race baiting business, not the civil rights movement. Sad to say, but who in the black community has spoken out against ANYTHING lately? God knows there is plenty wrong, take your pick. WAKE UP BLACK PEOPLE. Obama is NOT one of you. He has NEVER had much if any of "the black experience". His cultural/racial upbringing was white. He attended white schools {his private junior high prep school cost $4500 a month in 1970s dollars}. He had very little interaction at all with blacks until he went to University. Get past that he is, well, sorta black. Regardless of what his color is, he is NOT ONE OF US, WE THE PEOPLE.

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 13:17 | 2050665 ThisIsBob
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Tue, 01/10/2012 - 13:28 | 2050705 Spastica Rex
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There you go. Maybe you're not paying enough attention.

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 13:47 | 2050748 Hapte
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You clearly don't know very many Black people.

Power to all people.

"We do defend our offices, and we do defend our homes, this is a constitustional idea, everybody has it, and aint nothing funny about that..."



Tue, 01/10/2012 - 13:12 | 2050641 CulturalEngineer
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Tue, 01/10/2012 - 17:19 | 2051736 smiler03
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Moreover, the same system, technology and model enabling that transaction catalyzes a 'donor network' of much broader utility establishing counter-balancing, civic oriented capabilities independent of current concentrations of political power.

What the fuck does this mean? SPAM in more than one word?

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 13:20 | 2050675 slewie the pi-rat
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"Ultimately, activism is about disturbing people's normal mundane routines and shocking them out of their pop-culture stupor, even if for a moment."

yes, this is part of it, and w/out trying to argue w/ tyler, here, please consider that activism is also a personal choice and statement of self-sexpression and "lifestyle" for want of a better word

many "protesters" do not understand the "legal" system;  they may get arrested without choosing to be arrested and just want to get tf outa jail, NOW and get "it" over with;  others plan to get arrested as protest, but do not understand how to play their "protest" hand in the courtroom.  they lawyer up and they/their friends pay the legal beagles and they got the charges of resisting, and assaulting, and inciting dropped, they don't get 5-10 years' sentence, and maybe walk on unsupervised pro


  • we have heroes and philosophers and those who have gone before us in these struggles or their anteceedents:  why are you in jail?  well, why aren't you? [and i'm waiting to give the judge an enormous piece of my mind, too!]
  • bobby seale was bound and gagged by a judge (and got 5 years!);  angela spoke in her own defense 
  • the berrigan brothers performed priestly blood rituals over draft board records, staged hunger strikes awaiting trial, and gave the judges two earsful of straight US Citizenship LEGAL and MORAL ideals and words of JUSTICE before they would accept release! 
  • the crowds and cameras were in the courtrooms and the protests were preliminary to the main events
  • it was the civil rights marchers who laid the groundwork and the ideals of the war protesters in the steets, and also in the courtroom cases which followed arrests

in the summer of 2010, cindy sheehan had a trial in DC;  right after bbNetanyahoo visited prez0, but she had to be careful, because she had already been arrested and was "out on bail awaiting trial".  lawyered up, did not testify (i can only hope i'm wrong there) and went out for a few pops w/ friends after the "trial", probably;  but she never made a personal legal record of the moral reason she had acted in civil disobedience of the law while she was in that courtroom, as far as i could tell.  weak?  yes, compared to the best leadership, but in fairness this was 2010, not a generation before;  no draft;  different dynamics around "The People"

people have been fed bullshit by the MSM that the vietNamWar was stopped b/c of protests.  not true, imo.  it was stopped by individual protesters standing up in courtrooms at great personal risk and claiming JUSTICE right in the faces of the judges, goobermint attorneys and hired guns & goons.  i won't say that the street action weren't inportant, and the marches and the chanting, and getting tear-gassed and beaten, but the leaders of the people and of their movements took it to court for the big drama and legal arguments, and things escalated right up to the military murders of the peaceful protesters at kentState

but they did not scare all the courage out of daniel ellsberg;  he stood trial for all his freedoms for publishing the "goobermint secrets" of "thePentagonPapers" and exposing decades of nothing but political chicanery and lies

so, we got things calmed down finally;  nixon had to go, but henry the K escaped and is still the front man running the show for Rocky et al, isn't he? 

then they robbed all the assets of the S & Ls, but over 1000 were convicted, hundreds doing time. then prezBubba, the gutting of the banking laws, and very few arrests ever since, except for meaningless little people like "protesters"

if you've never stood up for principle in a superior court and pointed out to the judge as well as all others present that he's talking like a man with a paper asshole, you don't know what you've missed!  a month and a half in "the hole" before your next "appearance" probably! or a nice remand for a sanity hearing and a possible 10-year stay at the 'hospital', w/ yearly review of the determination that you are "a threat to self or others", of course!  w/ a little courage and truth, you will attract the help you need from the community and the judge and other "officers" may decide to stop trying to destroy your life since to do so would leave them exposed for the fools they are for dedicating their entire lives to such an end.  when the judge never wants to see you again, you're finished, at least till the next time

the thing about the law (what's left of it) is that

  • you have rights
  • "they" must follow procedure
  • you will get your day in court, "speedily" if you don't "waive time"

so if your gonna play this fabulous game, try to figure what youre gonna say to the shitforbrained judge before you get arrested, insist on a speedy and public trial, and prepare to stay in for 4-8 months to avoid "supervision by your political enemies"

maybe this is just old-fashioned nonsense at this point, but at least i've had my chance to highlight the importance of your case and your right to a "speedy and public" airing of why tf you are in this courtroom, today, possible facing a felony conviction if you aren't "nice and play along with what is expected of you, here"

thanks for listening!

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 14:08 | 2050868 fuu
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Tue, 01/10/2012 - 13:24 | 2050693 Eureka Springs
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NDAA, what a myopic approach with horrific framing to protesting systemic fail, systemic totalitarian fascist criminality which has been firmly in place fora long time. I just marvel at whoever has these kids protesting something which was simply rearranging the chairs on our titanic instead of actually protesting in a manner which would address fixing things. Whether NDAA passed, failed or was vetoed... we were already in a pickle and would still remain here.

I hope a lot of people who are just waking up quickly learn they are negotiating/protesting in errorism... expecting the people who love this to change their ways.

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 13:27 | 2050700 lolmao500
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When will the protesters arm themselves? Armed protesters is the only thing that will stop these thugs from arresting peaceful protesters and attacking them without reason.

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 14:20 | 2050943 Alpha Monkey
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Armed protestors means more police, more arrests, more state violence.  Peaceful mass protest is the only way possible.  Otherwise, as the saying goes, violence begets violence.  I would think that peace begets peace also... same coin, other side.

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 13:49 | 2050783 Randall Cabot
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For New Hampshire: NDAA Breaks Through to Major Media. Not American One, the BBC.     




Tue, 01/10/2012 - 13:58 | 2050817 TheObsoleteMan
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I am not going to give you the "some of my best friends are black" BS, because that would be a lie. But I have spoken with blacks I am familiar with concerning all that is going on, and to the person they have all said I was making something out of nothing, and they proceed to list all of Obama's great accomplishments since he has been in office. They say there are elements out there trying to smear him. Congrats to the ONE blackman in the video, all we need now are thousands more like him. He is not representative of the black race, he represents himself {good for him}. Again I ask: WHERE ARE THE BLACK PATRIOTS? Where are the black community leaders and pastors? I'll tell you; they are all out trying to get Obama re-elected in November.

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 14:09 | 2050872 Hapte
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"Where are the black community leaders and pastors?" Short answer? Incarcerated, murdered, muzzled.

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 14:02 | 2050831 marcusfenix
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people have forgotten that the constitution gives us all the right and even the responsibility to defend ourselves and each other from acts of tyranny and oppression, regardless of what uniform the perpetrators are wearing.

"we the people" were always meant to be the defenders of our own freedoms and liberties, that is why the founders wrote a document empowering us to do exactly that, even up to and including dissolving the central government should it become an agent of repression and violence, should it conflict, impede and deny any individuals right to pursue life, liberty and happiness.

I hope before to much longer people remember that we are all individuals, meant to be independent free thinking men and women, not beholden to any one political, social or religious ideology or another. not to be labeled, grouped and collectively dehumanized by being branded libtards or teabaggers. we are not various herds roaming around the lands grazing in whatever pastures our masters provide for us, playing in whatever sandbox they choose keep us in.

people need to remember that before it's to late, it's liberty and justice for all, not just those in your false, propagandized, socially engineered herd, or there will be no liberty and no justice for any one.

we have already given up so much out of fear, out of apathy, out of induced, engineered and encouraged ignorance, out of normalcy bias, out of greed and selfishness that we are very close to slipping into that abyss. after which there is only violence, hatred, fear and merciless repression and control.

so the choice is simple will we be free individuals, or collectivist herds of red vs blue slaves? I just hope people realize there is a choice to be made before there is no longer any reason to make one.

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 14:10 | 2050889 TheObsoleteMan
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Slewie the-pirat, that was the best post I have read today. Spot on. The S&L "Crisis" was a test run to gauge public outrage or the lack thereof. When they saw they could get away with it, they went for the whole enchilada.

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 14:36 | 2050970 Yen Cross
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 Since this ponzi market is having a  "up" day on nothing , I thought you might find this read interesting. I shit you not! You can vote without an ID, but you need one to buy " Draino", in none other than POTUS shitsville!

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 15:50 | 2051408 non_anon
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ah, nothing like the smell of tyranny

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 20:16 | 2052363 supafuckinmingster
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Wow.........almost 400 comments. Methinks a nerve has been struck here.

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 15:03 | 2055398 tony bonn
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"The absurdity of America today never ceases to amaze.."

although you are on the right side of the issue you are a total fucktard....

this move by the rockefeller-mic-yale-cia cabal has nothing to do with is all about systematic subjugation of america and the imposition of martial law....

until you little boys grow up, the subjugation fact it has been so successful because of fucktards like you....

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