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Guest Post: New Asian Union Means The Fall Of The Dollar

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Submitted by Brandon Smith from Alt Market

New Asian Union Means The Fall Of The Dollar

One of the most frustrating issues to haunt the halls of alternative economic analysis is the threat of misrepresentative terminology. For instance, when the U.S. government decided to back the private Federal Reserve in lowering the interest rates on lending windows to European banks last month, they did not call this a bailout, even though that’s exactly what it was. They did not call it quantitative easing, or fiat printing, or a hyperinflationary landmine; rarely does bureaucracy ever apply honest terminology to their subversive activities. False terminology is the bane of every honest analyst, because in order for them to educate and awaken those who are unaware of the truth, they must first battle through the daunting muck of the general public’s horrifically improper perceptions and vocabulary.

The chain of financial events taking place over the past decade in Asia have been correspondingly mislabeled and misunderstood. What some economists see as total collapse is actually a new and decidedly prophetic (or engineered) transition. What some naively see as the “natural” progression of globalism, is actually a distinctly deliberate program of centralization meant to further the goals of world economic and political totalitarianism. Asia, and most especially China, is a Petri dish for elitist psychopaths. What we see as suffocating collectivism in this region of the world today is the exact social schematic intended for the West tomorrow. Call it whatever you will, but on the other side of the Pacific, like the eerie smile of a sinister clown, sits fabricated fate.

The genius of globalization is not in how it “works”, but in how it DOESN’T work. Globalization chains mismatched cultures together through circumstance and throws us into the deep end of the pool. If one sinks, we all sink, enslaving us with interdependency. The question one must ask, then, is if all sovereign economies are currently tied together in the same way? The answer is no, not anymore. Certain countries have moved to insulate themselves from the domino effect of debt implosion, one of the primary examples being China.

Since at least 2005, China has been taking the exact steps required to counter the brunt of a global debt collapse; not enough to make it untouchable, but enough that its infrastructure will survive. One could even surmise that China’s actions indicate a foreknowledge of the events that would eventually escalate in 2008. How they knew is hard to say, but if the available evidence causes you to lean towards collapse as a Hegelian creation (and it should if you are paying any attention), then China’s activity begins to make perfect sense. If a globalist insider told you that in a few short years the two most powerful financial empires in the world were going to topple like bowling pins under the weight of their own liabilities, what would you do? Probably separate yourself as much as possible from the diseased dynamic and construct your own replacement system. This is what China has done…

China started with the circulation of Yuan denominated bonds, like T-Bonds, meant to securitize Chinese debt, creating an outlet for the currency to go global. China’s considerable forex and bond reserves make this move a rather suspicious one. With so much savings at their disposal, why bother to issue bonds at all? Why threaten the traditional export based economy and the uneven trade advantage that the country had been thriving on for decades? The success of Chinese bonds would mean the internationalization of the Yuan, a floating valuation of the currency, and the loss of the desirable trade deficit with the U.S. Back in 2005, this all would surely seem like a novelty that was going nowhere fast. Of course, today China’s actions suggest an unprecedented push to convert to a consumer hub at the center of a massive trading bloc. To put it simply; China knew ahead of schedule that the U.S. was no longer going to be a viable customer, and reliance on such a country would spell disaster. They have been preparing to break away from America’s consumer markets and the dollar for some time.

In 2008, after China announced the use of the Yuan in cross border trade on a limited basis, I began to write about the possibility that China was preparing to break from the Greenback. For the past few years my primary focus in terms of finance has been the East as a kind of warning bell for the state of the global economy. In 2009 and 2010, it became absolutely clear that China (with the help of global corporate entities) was developing the skeleton of a new system; a trade network that that had the capacity to supplant the U.S. and end the dollar’s world reserve status.

Since then, Yuan bonds have spread across the planet, China has dropped the dollar in bilateral trade with Russia, the ASEAN trading bloc has formed into a tight shell of export partners, and that is just the beginning. Two major announcements in 2011 have solidified my belief that a complete dump of the dollar by eastern interests is near…

First was the announcement that China was actively and openly pursuing the establishment of a central bank for the whole of ASEAN, with the Yuan utilized as the reserve currency instead of the dollar:

This news, of course, has barely been reported on in the mainstream. As I discussed at the beginning of this article, the terminology surrounding economic developments has been diluted and twisted. When China states that an ASEAN central bank is in the works, we need to point out what this really means; the ASEAN trading bloc is about to become the Asian Union. The only missing piece of the puzzle is something that I have been warning about for at least a couple years, ever since my days at Neithercorp (see “Migration Of The Black Swans” as a recent example). This key catalyst is the inclusion of Japan in ASEAN, something which many said would take five to ten years to unfold. News released this Christmas speaks otherwise:

Japan has indeed entered into an agreement to drop the dollar in currency exchange with China and has expressed interest in melting into ASEAN. Japan has also struck somewhat similar though slightly more limited deals with India, South Korea, Indonesia, and the Philippines almost simultaneously:

This means that the two largest foreign holders of U.S. debt and Greenbacks will soon be in a position to tap into an export market far more profitable than that of America, and that all of this trade will be facilitated by currencies OTHER THAN THE DOLLAR. It means the end of the dollar as the world reserve and probably the end of the dollar as we know it.

Japan’s inclusion in this process was inevitable. With its economy already in steep deflationary decline, the Yen skyrocketing in value against the dollar making exports difficult, as well as the ongoing nuclear meltdown problem at Fukushima, the island nation has been on the edge of complete collapse. Its only option, therefore, is to sink into the chaotic sees, or float like a buoy tied to an Asian Union. There can be absolutely no doubt now that Japan will soon implement the latter solution.

The dilemma at this point becomes one of timing. Now that we are certain that two of the largest economies in the world are about the dump the Greenback, what signals can we watch when preparing for the event? My belief is that the trigger will come squarely from the U.S. and the Federal Reserve, either as legislation to heavily tax Asian imports, a renewed threat of further credit downgrades like that which S&P brought down in August, or the announcement of more open quantitative easing. Any and all of these issues could very well arise in the course of the next 6-12 months, QE3 being a basic no-brainer. ASEAN could, certainly, drop the dollar immediately after their central bank apparatus is put in place, resulting in a much more volatile trade war atmosphere (also useful for full global centralization later down the road). The point is, we are truly at a place in our economic life when ANYTHING is possible.

My hope is that as our predictions in the alternative economic community are proven correct with every passing quarter, more Americans will take note, and prepare. I can say quite confidently that we have entered the first stages of the catastrophic phase of the economic implosion. All the fantastic and terrible consequences many once considered theory or science fiction, are about to become reality. Practical solutions have been offered by myself and many others. The only thing left now is to take action, or ride the tidal wave of destruction like so much driftwood. We can help to determine the outcome, or we can be idle spectators. In everything, there is a choice…


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Fri, 12/30/2011 - 14:46 | 2022107 SWRichmond
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Hey, where'd my snarky comment go?

Fri, 12/30/2011 - 14:46 | 2022111 heremynkitty
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Even Tyler is prone to double

Fri, 12/30/2011 - 14:56 | 2022136 algol_dog
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Double Trouble ...

Fri, 12/30/2011 - 15:08 | 2022175 trav7777
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dumbest article ever.

China is neither brilliant nor ahead of the curve. 

They have more capacity than there exist customers and the nation is polluted beyond belief.

Fri, 12/30/2011 - 15:12 | 2022191 Oh regional Indian
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On the other hand, who-ever got these Sheepleaders to pose in that ridiculous formation surely has:

a; Some Power

b. A rock solid sense of humor

The hidden hand in Asia. See the guy on the left who could not hang with the script? Would not be surprised if he is the ex foreign minister soon.

What a clown-show... time to get into politics, perhaps.




Fri, 12/30/2011 - 15:47 | 2022259 ratso
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Brandon Smith is writing pure crap.  He has no insight into China and certainly none into the Fed's functioning.

Just to make the point - Smith can not tell the difference between a loan at a reduced rate and printing money as in QE.


Brandon Smith - Boooo!

Fri, 12/30/2011 - 16:03 | 2022311 wanklord
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Blame the Baby-Boomers for all the ongoing disgraces of this country, that's why they are considered America's failed generation. These good-for-nothing invested their deprived intellect in experimenting with all types of drugs and having very promiscuous (and many times deviant/unnatural) sexual lives.

In fact, the following video taken at Woodstock in 1969 clearly depicts what Baby-Boomers were all about:

Consequently, their offspring are the best evidence that defect genes have been transmitted from one generation to the next; worst of all, the chances that their descendants' DNA carrying a more complex sequence of these defective genes are 100% guarantee -these new generation of Americans can fairly be described as subhumans.

Fri, 12/30/2011 - 16:33 | 2022385 TheFourthStooge-ing
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More copy-and-paste feces from wanklord.

To see how far and often he's tried to fling this particular turd, a google search for "deprived intellect in experimenting" (include the quotation marks) will reveal his digital detritus.

He never reads followups to his comments, or even the articles that he's supposedly commenting on, so he doesn't even realize that he's been figured out.


Fri, 12/30/2011 - 18:06 | 2022629 TruthInSunshine
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No one can know what is to be, whether a year or two decades from now.

However, a few things can be agreed upon by reasonable people, IMO, with respect to China and a broader Asian 'replacement' economic system (i.e. replacing foreign consumption with domestic consumption):


1)  China has entered into maturing developing economy status, and as such, it is subject to more volatility, on average, than developed economies (with hgher odds of huge upside and downside events);

2)  China has a demographic time bomb in the form of a fat part of their bell curve being populated by young people, who will need to find gainful employment, with the Chinese economy having to generate roughly 1.5 million to 2 million new jobs per month in order for unemployment rates to NOT rise - and this is unfortunately taking place at a time when the autonomation of the economy is eliminating the need to hire as many 'hands on' type jobs that China has depended on to grow its economy and job base (e.g. Foxconn is replacing 1/2 of its 2 million worker labor force with machines in the next 12 to 24 months);

3)  There is essentially little to no credibility regarding any officially stated economic data presented by China, whether such data has to do with GDP/GNP growth, inflation, banking sector health, etc. etc.  Many would argue the same thing is true of many western, developed economies, and even though the data presented by entities such as the U.S.'s BLS is deeply flawed and misleading, it's less overtly fraudulent than Chinese official statistics (e.g. Chinese inflation is probably easily 4x the officially reported rate, whereas U.S. inflation is probably 2x what's officially stated);

4)  Because of the need to grow their job base, or at the very least, not let the job base contract, the Chinese Central Planners have encouraged massively distorted domestic markets and incredibly deep pockets of malinvestment, even going so far as to literally subsidize net loss producing sectors of their economy (which just so happen to employ massive numbers of Chinese workers), which is being glossed over due to the present Chinese trade surpluses they have with trading partners (i.e. paid for from past savings, which has the result of eroding that current pile of savings). This situation could have an incredibly ugly end consequence given that many of these current net-debtor trading partners are experiencing tremendous erosion of their domestic economic fundamentals, presenting a very real risk that their imports of Chinese produced goods will be curtailed even further, throwing the entire Chinese economic model into dire condition, very quickly;

5)  The present and massive Chinese real estate bubble has been spurred on far more by easy credit expansion and government incentivization, rather than real demand as a result of real growth in wages or the labor pool, and the unwinding of this bubble will add to the woes of the Chinese banking sector and also act as a drag on future employment;

6)   China is very much dependent on foreign sources of oil that they are not in a good position to ensure delivery of, in terms of geopolitics;

FINALLY, and specifically referencing the opinion of the author who wrote the thesis above, any notion that there will be an Asian currency that significantly erodes the USD as the world's reserve currency at any time in the next 25 years, let alone decade, is very much the product of an analysis that is short on a working knowledge of the world's capital markets as they exist today, in terms of structure and participation. This remains true despite even if major currencies undergo significant revaluations for the forseeable future.

Fri, 12/30/2011 - 18:39 | 2022719 Hugh_Jorgan
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If these guys are as corrupt as the EU, it won't even last 10 years.

Fri, 12/30/2011 - 19:15 | 2022793 AldousHuxley
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Asian success formula:


  1. use natural resource exports to build up light manufacturing industries
  2. use unskilled cheap labor for simple manufacturing to meet foreign demand
  3. keep currency depressed against trading nations in addition to foreign goods import quotas
  4. invest profit from #2 into developing semi-skilled labor for advanced manufacturing and domestic consumption
  5. invest profit from #4 into rigorous education weed out system to develop skilled labor and professionals
  6. use human capital from #4 to create globally competitive corporations heavily subsidized by the state to purely copy western innovations and sell for 5% cheaper
  7. use profit from #6 and 2nd generation human capital to invest in innovation
  8. use profit from innovative companies into banking
  9. use good credit built up and domestic banks to print money for building war machines and military force
  10. use 3rd generation human capital to invest in culture and entertainment which glorifies the nation
  11. use war machines to export culture and entertainment in poorer countries into accepting conditions in giving up their natural resources


Japan is at #10

South Korea is at #9

North Korea is at #1

China is at #6 soon #7


during the journey, there are government corruptions, private corporation blunders, banking crashes, war losses, brain drain, etc.

Fri, 12/30/2011 - 20:22 | 2022898 bakken
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AMEN TIS.   There is so much more-Asia is itself not the Big Man to be feared.  Japan,  ????  Close to meltdown. N. Korea a loose and very dangerous cannon.  Burma, another disaaster case.   Pakistan?  India may have economic calamity  coming up, SOON, in the form of hyper-inflation breaking out.  Internecine strife, war: Americans are blissfully unaware of the coming water theft in South and South East Asia bythe water short Chinese nation.  The Chinese will be stealing much of the flow of the Mekong and Brahmaputra rivers, lifeblood for Viet Nam, Laos, Thailand, Cambodia, Bangla Desh and even parts of Burma. 

Even public health in China is poor, and will sooon, along with care for the elderly become a large consumer of potential capital.  A much stronger society, Japan, has foundered, and is nowhere near to leaving the Zombie state after 20 years(Japan may blow too if the debt burden interest gets to 2%).  My guess is that China will not collapse, but will simply vegetate,  Zombie like,  nervously, as political voilence breaks out sporadically.  PS  Internal control is a very heavy cost also for this economy and costs of repression are very real.  Pollution?  They haven't begun to address very serious problems of a good water supply>>>  Check out the North-South water diversion if you want a laugh.

This is no unified group,  phoney photo-op piks aside.

We should always remember that Mussolini. Hitler and Stalin all had their fanbois here in America back in the day.  My worry is that WE willl do ourselves in, the Asians are not the threat.

Sat, 12/31/2011 - 11:35 | 2023553 sun tzu
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Nobody ever claimed that Asians are a threat and they never have been. We control our own destiny and are doing a shitty job at it

Sat, 12/31/2011 - 18:01 | 2023986 mjk0259
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if so, why is china life expectancy higher than US ? They smoke more and have lots more pollution.

Sat, 12/31/2011 - 20:54 | 2024117 Crisismode
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Please post believable relevant link to support your statement that life expectancy in China is greater than in the US.


Will be looking forward to reading your expert source.

Fri, 12/30/2011 - 18:04 | 2022644 DosZap
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Too lazy to rewrite it, cut n paste?.

Your an asshole,par excellance.

Also to blame 4-5 generations for Woodstocks happening, and assuming all Boomers were like them is insanity to the Nth degree.

You MUST be 12,or a frigging idiot.

Fri, 12/30/2011 - 19:01 | 2022761 General Decline
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The "Greatest Generation" raised the "Worst Generation". How did that happen?

Sat, 12/31/2011 - 03:14 | 2023024 Bringin It
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Wanklord - "The Greatest Generation" swallowed whole every turd the PTB fed them, but thanks for the "Soul Sacrifice".  I think you just want more people to play Santana.  Thanks.

Sat, 12/31/2011 - 02:00 | 2023292 Lord Koos
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Wow, dancing naked to Santana, doesn't get more depraved & evil that that...

Sat, 12/31/2011 - 12:01 | 2023573 swani
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Simple people need scapegoats to blame for all of their problems or single minded 'solutions' to complex geopolitical issues that require breadth of understanding on much more than one generation's drug use during anti-war protests. Besides, not all Baby Boomers were part of this scene, just like not everyone in America is a part of the OWS scene today.

I know it's daunting, Wanklord, but it would do your arguments a lot of good for you to start with some reading of history going back to Rome. You tube videos are great, but one cannot base their entire world view on clips from Woodstock. I mean you can if you want people to think you're thick, but if you want to be respected by anyone with a brain, start learning. 


Sat, 12/31/2011 - 13:14 | 2023635 sdmodiano
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Sir Jism,

Thank you for that epic video of artisrty and the palpable human connection to it.  If we all were more connected to our humanity through that kind of spontaneous artistry, perhaps we would not have so many sociopaths devising evil financial abstractions designed to steal from others. 

You have unwittingly made a point worth considering, good for your unconscious mind.

Sat, 12/31/2011 - 14:33 | 2023733 randomdrift
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The excesses which Wanklord attributed to the Baby Boomers, represent a full expression of Modernism.

"Modernism" refers to the Modern Period of history, which began in 1815. That is an economic and cultural system based on Jewish traditions. Some people say that we are now in the Post-Modern Period but I am inclined towards the opinion that we are in a transition at the end of the Modern Period to whatever comes next. Some of the factors that make me think that we are still essentially Modern, are the great influence of AIPAC over US politics, the predominantly Jewish ownership of the mainstream media, and the near-completion of globalization under mostly Jewish owned or controlled central banks and financial institutions. These things show they still dominate the status quo, thereby, confirming that we are still essentially Modern.

However, calling this “Modern,” doesn't mean that these things are new. --- “All the great historians,” (meaning primarily Gibbon and Toynbee) agreed that that one particular people caused the collapse of all the great Western Civilizations: That is the Roman, Hellenistic and Assyrian Empires. When we look more closely at the causes of their collapse, we find many of these same factors, as well as, this same people. --- Clearly, their traditions are antagonistic to civilization.

The founding of Constantinople reveals one successful strategy for avoiding these problems. Emperor Constantine recognized their cause and excluded those people from entering his new city, under pain of death. The result was that it stood for seven centuries after the fall of Rome. However, Hitler also recognized these problems but his attempt to exclude those people from Germany was ultimately unsuccessful. However, this isn't the only possible strategy for avoiding these problems.

The Powers that exist today have made plans for that transition and many of the events that we see transpiring around us represent their implementation: In particular, that includes the end of the US dollar, as the global reserve currency, and the end of the American culture of, buying on credit. These are two material steps towards the exit.  

Nevertheless, decadent societies make great art and music: I enjoyed that video. Thanks.


Sun, 01/01/2012 - 10:58 | 2024532 Raging Debate
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Raging Debate's auto bot says Truth, Integrity, Justice and Freedom are concepts. Concepts are decided first immediately so that all citizens can strive to achieve that standard and have a chance at peace. In the old days, armies would carry a shield banner that represented its concepts as they charged toward one anotherin battle. Sounds glorious, doesn't it! Now a short story.

Once, a brown man carried his banner of retribution and cultivation for his master. A white man carried his banner of justice and choice for his master. The white man charged forward with all of his might, knowing justice must be served so the people may have choice. The brown man charged forward howling to make the men pay for years of oppression, theft shame. Which concepts won? Did the white man win or the brown man win? What did his master think of the battle? But both masters were absent. Neither the brown man or white man realized they had both been had. 

Three hundred years later a brown man carried his banner of justice and choice for his master. A white man carried his banner of justice and choice for his master. Both men charged forward howling with all of there might. Seeing that they were going to be had again they decided to ignore the masters, kneel down and beg. Instead, the masters took rods and beat them. Writhing in pain pleading for mercy one master snapped his fingers expecting them to rise. They had no choice but to charge one another! But they still didn't rise so the other master snapped his fingers and both servants dissapeared! The masters turned to one another and bowed, pleased. 

Do you wish to be the brown man, the master or the servant?

Sun, 01/01/2012 - 11:59 | 2024583 bigerny
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Fri, 12/30/2011 - 16:13 | 2022324 kito
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if we have entered the first stage of the catstrophic phase, wouldnt something catastrophic have to happen to be classified as such? otherwise, youre still in the non catastrophic phase still waiting to enter into the catastrophic phase with the pending onset of some catastrophe............................

Sat, 12/31/2011 - 09:44 | 2023476 dcb
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Uhh, I'm going to just print money to give out a low interest loan, and not call it money printing.  anything these fols can borrow less than the free market, and by that I don't include any borrowing froma central bank, is printing in effect.

Fri, 12/30/2011 - 17:14 | 2022490 Eeyores Enigma
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Isn't that how you kick off a circle jerk?

Sat, 12/31/2011 - 09:04 | 2023452 old naughty
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ORI, Hidden in plain sight...

had always wondered when (not if) the sheepleaders were in control, really?

Also worth to ponder perhaps is the capitalism-communism in the context of democrates-republicans, two sidess of the same hand, no?

Where is the other hand?

Fri, 12/30/2011 - 15:20 | 2022213 Harbourcity
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You remind me of a grizzled old man sitting on his porch yelling at kids to stay out of his yard.

Fri, 12/30/2011 - 15:51 | 2022278 High Plains Drifter
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a guy i know a couple of blocks from me told the neighbors kids to stay out of his yard or he would shoot them.........

Fri, 12/30/2011 - 17:19 | 2022499 Errol
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As much as I hate agreeing with Trav, I can clearly remember the period when people tried to tell me that Japan would be eating our lunch...the China superpower story is equally unlikely.

Sat, 12/31/2011 - 01:07 | 2023246 i-dog
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This is NOT a story about "China superpower", it's a story about how the globalists are again attempting to encourage a number of reluctant economies to merge under a single umbrella (now, an Asian Union instead of a European Union), with China as the central player.

He offers the appropriate warnings about how this central planning fiasco will end for all involved ... so I gave him a 5.

Sat, 12/31/2011 - 09:53 | 2023481 dcb
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It's interesting to see how nationalistic emotions get in the way of analysis. Japan's mistake was opening up too mcuh to western capitialistic influences and letting the bubble get too big. If China avoids doing as such they will be fine. As for japan lets be certain by almost any standard of living regardless of the lost decade they re doing better than us. The ideaq of using gdp as any kind of measurement of economic activity is deeply flawed. just by dilluting the currency you increae gdp with an unchanged output. or if you produce a good more efficiently, at lower cost, and perhaps even more units that would lower gdp although actual output would decrease. ONly foolos buy into most economic stupidity generated by the economic elite in the us and europe.

Sat, 12/31/2011 - 06:09 | 2023400 the tower
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Japan ate your lunch, and China is eating your dinner. There are no meals left after this....

The US and the UK must start to see their reality which is low education, low productivity, low health... You are poor beyond belief! Millions of unemployed. Millions of elderly without healthcare or money. Millions of children homeless. Millions in jail. And everything else is DEBT. What the fuck is wrong with you people!

All eyes are on China and Europe as the reality of the two collapsing (former-) superpowers UK and USA must be diverted. Europe and China will be fine, as will be most of the world. Why? They have invested heavily in education and are producing stuff that we all need. They are all working their asses off to study, produce ever higher quality stuff and meanwhile try to improve their living standards while preparing for a future where resources will be scarce. 

Do you really think the world will end? Of course not, it will move on, as it always did. You will just be left behind. Most of the world - outside of the West - is under 30, they are capable of change, huge change... They are not at the end of the road, they ARE the road.

The UK used to be THE superpower but their empire crumbled and never recovered, worse, they hit new all-time lows. The US took over and is at the same spot now, falling apart beyond repair.

Trust me, if you guys don't get your shit together soon, you will enter the scenario that is reported here so often. You ARE expendable, simply as you no longer have anything to offer. Your money-magic war-mongering dictatorship of the world is over, you're busted, game over! So get your dumb drunk drugged fat cry-baby asses moving and learn, work, produce before it's too late! 

Sorry for the harsh words but it seems it's the only language you guys understand... I mean all this in the best possible way because the people - not the psychopathic elites - of the US and UK are good people, like all people on this planet. You need to get ANGRY, with the people that put you in this shit. Wages in the USA are already at the same level as China so why is your pride - Apple - still producing there? March on Apple and DEMAND a locally produced iPhone and iPad! March on Wall-Mart, Washington, Wall Street! Get ANGRY! 

Sat, 12/31/2011 - 07:11 | 2023419 i-dog
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+ a gazillion!

Sat, 12/31/2011 - 07:48 | 2023430 Snidley Whipsnae
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Tower... Excellent post and advice. I have been watching and waiting for some sign of Americans getting off their asses and into action. Not much happening yet. I believe it will take hunger and deprivation to get people motivated.

The fools on here bashing China are not worth listening to. One minute posters here are bashing the bankers and pols, the next they are taking their side when China is mentioned. Spouting nationalistic bs is no solution. The entire US system needs a complete overhaul. A return to the US Constitution is a good place to start and anyone infringing on the rights granted US Citizens by the Constitution should face mandatory jail time for they are traitors by their actions.

Sat, 12/31/2011 - 16:41 | 2023912 DosZap
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Snidley Whipsnae

A return to the US Constitution is a good place to start and anyone infringing on the rights granted US Citizens by the Constitution should face mandatory jail time for they are traitors by their actions.



If it had just been FOLLOWED, as prescribed by law, and the lawless leadership,removed, and replaced,we would not be here now.

But, for that to happen,THREE Generations of Americans would have to have it taught in PUBLIC Progressive Cesspools.


Sat, 12/31/2011 - 11:39 | 2023557 sun tzu
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The average lifespan is 80. That's the problem. SS and Medicare will collapse the system. That along with the costs of the police,welfare, and military state and bankers sucking the lifeblood out of this country. Too many problems to solve. It will collapse. 

Sat, 12/31/2011 - 12:20 | 2023597 swani
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Thank you, Tower. I agree with you. It's up to the people to get angry and do something about what is being done to them by their elected officials and corporations that care nothing about their countries or communities. Companies respond to boycotts, politicians respond to losing popular support. People have to work together to improve their own situations. They have to stop looking for a 'leader' or a 'saviour'. 

People complain about the TBTF banks, Visa/Mastercard, big retailers ripping them off or treating their employees badly, why do they still support them? Why not support local businesses? Why not pay with cash when you can? Why still support the TBTF banks? Why keep investments in companies that are unethical? Why watch or read the MSM? Why vote for the same corrupt candidates? 

If the people are part of the problem by their daily passive support of the criminal racket that is currently permeating every area of our lives, how can they expect to ever liberate themselves? 


Sat, 12/31/2011 - 14:32 | 2023732 Raging Debate
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The Tower. I really admire your passion. But cheerleading cannot help with a system design engineering flaw. The Founders used a better model but didn't have the tool (internet) to stay semi-decentralized, centralization occurred and we're back to Monarchy. The design specs of Monarchy were brilliant. That is in 4,000 B.C. when the Egyptians coded the administrative government model and measured it in geometric depth of 666. Whether it is God or our God within us in our genetics, we seem to have known to be warned to freak out now when we could use a laser for a tool for governance when a handful of men have now decided, that no, they won't enter the Promised Land but no, you don't even get to try either, enjoy 666 or maybe Caines 999. 

Here is a treat from an AI systems engineer that learned some physics. Religious buffs of Christianity and the prophecy of Revelations by John of Patmos think of 666 and the number of the Beast. The angel tells John that here is where wisdom comes in to figure out what the number of the Beast represents. Now first off, not ONE of us on earth back then COULD have told you what it meant, even Einsten himself. 666 is two things:

1) The model of Monarchy. It is an actual government model a tool, not a mythological fairy tale.

2) Now that you know the inference of the number, you can look at a couple of historic events of what was and what will be again. The seal of Nero was 666. The Jews were revolving in Palestine and major cities like Jerusalem, not sending in taxes etc. They were given more deals then what was customary for a vassal. The Romans let you surrender piecefully and pay tax tribute but if not... Anyways when Jerusalem was starved out and burned Nero entered the temple and slaughtered a pig on it. It was the most insulting thing he could have done to remind the Jews they were under subjegation and that their God would not help them. Too bad they didn't listen to Jesus, he told them the same thing before he died and even what to do when the Romans came to the city to seige it but would leave to return later instead.

3) The angel tells John that the kingdom of Rome had a major predecessor, Babylon. The angel is telling John Babylon used the 666 model (even though it was the Egyptians that codified most of it into administrative law) The numbers indicate two things. They represent the depth of the administrators and general function (it gets deeper but I am summarizing). It also indicates the span of how long it lasts (if implemented correctly) and that is two human lifetimes or 160 years. Other cycles apply. At half life, you have huge changes, may become a new dynasty or brand (in modern terms) but the momentum of the nation using that model, underlying concepts etc. carries forward for that time. Models are largely predictable. The U.S. seemed to begin using the Triangle Monarchy model, 666 after the south was defeated in the Civil War. Some may argue this happened in 1913. 

So in the 1990's when Clinton Admin running around 'triangulating everything' and complementing themselves on their success of celebrating devolving back 4,000 years at least and some like Caine with an entire campaign on 999 plan (whether he knows this or not he is calling for 240 years of Monarchy. Pretty lengthy celebration of devolution eh? It is really the Western cultures that used propoganda to make the brown man more exploitable and so you never could connect the dots as a citizenship to government models. Eastern cultures that understand geometry and government models and math know a lot of this inside out and their mythology density is actually less than ours in using Godhead or religion to try and explain how the world works and what to be very vigilant for (to mitigate loss of life). As mentioned, up until now, it was not possible to translate these numbers the angel told John. Nicolai Tesla was obssessed with multiples of 3's. He obssessed not on the number themselves but what they meant. Some guy over in Iraq or Egypt, India could have probably told him and with modern physics and topography I could right now show him like I am explaining to you.

 4) The angel tells John that there will be another 666 empire to pay attention to. This one is a mixture of iron and clay (both items used more in thier respective time periods for buildings, weapons) and is the last empire. After that the angel starts talking about the adminstrative dimensions of a new government model. The angel gives you the numbers but they require further break down using post-modern physics, a new branch off of Quantum Physics. Either way, the model of the Quantum Computer to prove it mathematically was complete in 2003 (that was public info) but you really would have to be into AI geeking AND investing to have really wanted to get the math. It was harder finding other like minded people and the problems mounting in the world, the Internet to talk to the right people. It took a few years. Anyways, these sets of numbers applied to the sets of numbers the angel tells John for the new administrative government model are the key to 666 riddle. But now for the final empire. Whom is it? So now we are paying attention to nations proudly trumping support of Monarchy, of 666. The Club of Rome just threw its weight behind the existing world government. Roma, why have you left me? Of all the stewards of our planet of mankind and God, these men know not to support Monarchy, not to support 666. Not to devolve 4,000 friggin years and kill off 2B of us. Revelations therefore is a literal death toll warning to NOT pursue Monarchy, 666. I am leaving religion out of my analysis. I am only using physics, our now mappable evolutionary progress and dry discussion of government types.

5) The angel tells John that the countries described for this time frame are in the European Union of today. What I provided ZH is a juxtaposition point using physics as to exactly all the nations involved in world war three and when it start. The danger of mandraking to China and not considering the length it would take to harmonize a culture prone to Monarchy such as China was not considered. The output gap in time is what raises tensions to attack robbers which are is itself an evolutionary period of roughly 40 years, half of a life. Central Banking built its model on a 40 year run up and 40 year run down. Now, they themslelves mostly have pursued evolving mankinds model. Greenspan I think knew the outline of what I discuss and calls it a flaw in our economic model. He has tough time admitting in front of Henry Waxman testimony that the 'flaw' is really imperfection and Sir Alan is really powerless to stop it. He didn't want anybody in the world to know that, not even Washington. But what I think he did know and try to do was quadstack so high as to buy mankind more years until the Quantum Computer could be bult to crunch all the variables (all these numbers in point 1-4. The current problem with the attempt is it creates paradoxes in physics that are negative, measurable and predictable.

The Chinese are trade muscle for the Beast. Russia is the military muscle. Every global reserve currency has the job of global policeman and since China isn't nearly ready, it will be Russian. EU's coming currency deathstoke in the next few months is somewhat staged (long story) and Russia buying the PIIGS debt this coming year, latter half. Between 2013-2015, security switch for the peg accompanies in the ME also, accompanies the monetary peg one. Makes sense now, doesn't it why U.S. acted like a bully. At the end of the peg's security job it seems momentum goes too far. Plus, it looked like in the 2000's 'stabalizing' the ME is all about using up the last of American's resources with all the benefits going to the East and the new peg. This is why guys like Jim Rogers tell you to learn Mandarin or Timmy seems to always be on his knees to the Chinese. They are ALL one group of financeers but this is changing too. A commentator further down DDta adds to my conclusion of a split between burgalers for the final power and privelage of the reserve peg prize. What I know through math is that this form of model as part of Monarchy ends in 2021 - FOREVER. In physics it can tell you the macro but you don't try and bother with all the details. An example would be telling you what exact month to liquidate a Yuan trade. By doing so I create paradox and the outcome I told you is exactly the opposite of what occurs.

Last: Want to know how I know God or Alien Creators exist and they are energy? Because in physics you REQUIRE someone or something with intelligence to break into the third dimension and TELL you a fourth dimension exists. Otherwise, the evolutionary destiny of our species would have been quite a bit different, at least in how we got to the final destination which is the Singularity, about 60 years away. What that is that using particle colliders we have been peering into the 4th dimension for decades, but like the Atlantic Ocean in the 1,400's it took a bit before someone made that journey and colonized. There is no reason for the space program now outside of mining our own solar system and that is if as an evolved species we both caring about the earth, outside tending to the next crop of evolutionary animals.  


Then the EU will be the administrative muscle. In fact, I saw an article on this here last week or two even though I did comment that this will happen six months ago. Tyler, pull it up if you want. It isn't vanity to prove my point of digging it up It is about having a focused article, debate, discussion and plan going forward. Do you you what is wild? My plan got stolen back in 2008 as I expected. I have the solution to the problem and would need to now sit down with people like Alan Greenspan and Nesra types.

About America and the END:

An AWSOME result of an experiment Republic that lasted 225 years using a 4D model instead of 3D monarchy! All we're talking about now is evolving to five branches of government for what the angel was telling John. If you read Revelations, the angel tells you the tent of God is with mankind forever!". 

 And really, since things move so much faster these days, what we're really talking about is the death of the brand of Uncle Sam. If the concepts truth, freedom and justice are eroded because of flawed system design, then why keep it? Rebrand, it takes a couple of years now, Soviets showed us that in that experiement. America will build the 5D model and execute our conceptual concepts for a new Republic in VERY short order. The East is discounting the historic tendency of the culture. The West, particularly Germany and America, are the Wolf now, not the Eagle. Game theory four levels deep so all of you lose and it isn't because of nationalism or ideology. I love every person on earth and beg you with tears that the best game the math tells me is not to play! 

 But I don't blame ANYBODY anymore for decisions that were made until 2003. That was the year the math proved we could build an even better model than the Founders, in others words evolve. But that didn't happen and the short gaps of a few years in-between of miscalculations (based on HAVING to take an educated guess) create big cascading failures. There is a solution and it is physics based, we now have the tools we (mankind) to evolve into a five branch government of checks and balances.

Sun, 01/01/2012 - 00:13 | 2024315 i-dog
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You need to cook with a different kind of mushroom.

Fri, 12/30/2011 - 18:28 | 2022694 _underscore
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Not ahead of the curve?  They've safely negotiated the curve & are tearing up the straight, whilst us 1st & New Worlders have careered off into CantPayitBack Gulch. As far as 'brilliance' goes, perhaps they do owe us one there, but they've had about 4K years more experience - which may count for something.

This trade/currency pact was the signal event.

Sat, 12/31/2011 - 02:59 | 2023337 trav7777
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yeah these chinks have been around for 4000 years!!!!!!1

all of them.  They've all been sitting around smoking opium for the past 200 also, and that was all part of their master multimillennium plan to DOMINATE THE WORLD

Sat, 12/31/2011 - 06:21 | 2023401 Snidley Whipsnae
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I find it interesting that even this author failed to mention the SCO (Shanghai Cooperation Organization) which was formed in 1996... long before the author of this article's "2005" date.

The goals of the SCO are several and should be considered.

The US (and all other Westerners) is denied 'observer status' to the meetings of the SCO.

Why is the SCO never mentioned on main stream media or even sites like ZH? Is an organization that represents 60% of all humans not worthy of discussion?

"In June 2002, the heads of the SCO member states met in Saint Petersburg, Russia. There they signed the SCO Charter which expounded on the organisation's purposes, principles, structures and form of operation, and established it officially from the point of view of international law.

Its six full members account for 60% of the land mass of Eurasia and its population is a quarter of the world’s. With observer states included, its affiliates account for half of the human race.

In June 2005, at its fifth and watershed summit in Astana, Kazakhstan, with representatives of India, Iran, Mongolia and Pakistan attending an SCO summit for the first time, the president of the host country, Nursultan Nazarbayev, greeted the guests in words that had never before been used in any context: “The leaders of the states sitting at this negotiation table are representatives of half of humanity."

Fri, 12/30/2011 - 21:46 | 2023045 o2sd
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Brilliant and well reasoned rebuttal  trav7777 . Your eloquent arguments, piercing insights, well sourced facts and figures continues to amaze and astound us. It's comments like yours that make the posts on ZH such a valuable resource to us all. Keep up the good work you champion!

Sat, 12/31/2011 - 02:59 | 2023338 trav7777
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no problem, dipshit!

Sat, 12/31/2011 - 11:44 | 2023561 swani
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Trav 7777

You are so wrong about China. Please give me a break. If there is one thing that China can do, it's to copy very well. And what they are doing now, is copying our central banking model for control of the world's resources through debt enslavement of target populations.

Only the foolish underestimate their enemies. 

Fri, 12/30/2011 - 15:08 | 2022178 Oh regional Indian
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Wholly Cow! Now what? A TD Double surely portends something!

Up? Down? Sideways?


Sat, 12/31/2011 - 11:23 | 2023545 LawsofPhysics
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Total bullshit. One cannot solve a paper problem with more paper. All is posturing for WWIII. Hedge accordingly.

Fri, 12/30/2011 - 14:56 | 2022138 Alex Kintner
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Let them eat rice cake.

Fri, 12/30/2011 - 18:41 | 2022726 Hugh_Jorgan
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You mean "lice cake" don't you?

Fri, 12/30/2011 - 14:53 | 2022130 Caviar Emptor
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There will be no decoupling. Full interdependency has always been baked in. China won't return to pre-1972 "closed" status. The two giants, the US and China, will continue to converge: CHina's economy becoming more market-oriented, the US becoming more centralized. The last 4 years have seen it all accelerate

Fri, 12/30/2011 - 14:55 | 2022135 heremynkitty
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Waiting for the two systems to converge to where banksters are shot for malfeasance.

Fri, 12/30/2011 - 15:00 | 2022155 uno
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US is working overtime to cut off China oil supplies, Libya, next Iran, also marines in Australia for the South China Sea foray, US Navy showing up in Vietnam.

Fri, 12/30/2011 - 15:08 | 2022177 Caviar Emptor
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Just games. US has outsourced half the productive economy to China and derives profit from ongoing operations of the large multinationals. Corporatocracy has triumphed at the expense of citizens. The jobs, the industres are never coming back. But we will still sell them tons of coal, grain and other raw materials. A nice illustration this past summer was Yum brands expanding operations in China while shrinking not only jobs but selling off domestic brands in the US. Bottom line, China is supporting US twin deficits including the Treasury. The alternative would be monetizing and killer inflation, right back to the early Nixon 1970s

Fri, 12/30/2011 - 15:58 | 2022297 Chupacabra-322
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Here is the result of privatization/deregulation. The ultimate endpoint of this process (relax, the makers of this crime-against-humanity will, themselves, be destroyed, by their own, financially & morally bankrupt, policies) is the existence of private/mercenary armies, fighting on behalf of their corporate sponsors, who THEMSELVES exist, at the behest of the financier oligarchy/syndicate. The historical phenomena of private armies funded by the rich, is hundreds of years older than national armies. THIS IS what all the royally chartered trading companies(such as the dutch & british east india trading companies, royal africa trading company, hudson's bay company, etc...) were all about. This IS neocon policy. This is an example of the 1%er oligarchy trying to get back to the "good ole days" of red coats for cannon fodder, before the "new model" national armies constrained by policies of common defense & GENUINE national interest, and governments of, by, for, the people.

Fri, 12/30/2011 - 17:15 | 2022491 uno
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The Fed is monetizing the bonds, inflation at the personal consumer level is high, ShadowStats shows it as over 5% year to year since '87.    I agree the jobs are gone, next will be aerospace (manufacturing and later design), the smart ones out there are getting farmland.


Fri, 12/30/2011 - 20:52 | 2022957 fnord88
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Disagree on aerospace. That is one thing obama has done right.

Sat, 12/31/2011 - 07:17 | 2023422 i-dog
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Then there must be an ulterior motive....

Sat, 12/31/2011 - 12:44 | 2023606 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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He dumped NASA and handed it over to the corporations (BA, et al).  The imperfections of NASA ( NAZI front org)don't outweight the success and taxes paid into the investment.  Now technology will be run strictly by corporations.  Way to go Obama, you fascist swine.

Fri, 12/30/2011 - 18:59 | 2022756 Iwanttoknow
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Exporting raw material is the fuction of a third world economy,as I would tease my canadian friends.

Fri, 12/30/2011 - 15:14 | 2022194 Urban Redneck
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The US military isn't big enough to cover all the places that China has been jumbing into bed with the locals for oil, the only way to cut off oil to China is on the high seas, and it would kill the dollar overnight as the dollar would no longer be accepted for oil.

Fri, 12/30/2011 - 17:04 | 2022469 uno
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Dollars for Oil is why we got in Iraq, Libya, and soon Iran.  Saudi, UAE, Bahrain got the memo.

Sat, 12/31/2011 - 11:42 | 2023562 sun tzu
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If we don't go bankrupt first. There are not enough troops and the military is being pussified. Good luck trying to dominate the world with homosexuals and illiterate ghetto punks

Fri, 12/30/2011 - 18:12 | 2022655 my puppy for prez
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The Malacca Strait near Myanmar.

Fri, 12/30/2011 - 17:40 | 2022566 xela2200
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The US armed forces complex has gone insane. I guess they are loosing business income in Iraq, so they need to open new markets (war). I, also, thought it was a show of force, but I am starting to wonder. Has the world gone INSANE or is it just me?,_Oil_%26_Gold_to_Spike.html

Fri, 12/30/2011 - 18:11 | 2022653 my puppy for prez
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F. William Engdahl explains the oil/military relationship and dynamics completely in his book, "Full Spectrum Dominance".  We ARE in the constant process of trying to chokehold China and Russia's rise via energy restriction (the Malacca Strait near Myanmar and the missile shield encircling Russia).

The more Russia and China solidify extra-US partnerships, the closer we get to a humongous and horrific war with them!  Evidence of this is troops in Australia and "color revolutions" funded and orchestrated by the US.

Freaky times....all one needs to remember is that the military does the bankster/energy barron's bidding, to help maintain US world reserve currency and energy access via military might.  It's a simple equation, really.

Sat, 12/31/2011 - 00:29 | 2023216 Lore
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"The Obama administration has pursued diplomacy very vigorously."

Rickards should know better than to parrot this bunk. Congress has spent hundreds of millions (look it up) funding CIA and Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC) in an attempt to destabilize and generally stir the domestic Iranian pot. Remember the "Yellowcake" and "WMD" marratives? This "nuclear Iran" myth is no different. This is part of the same old agenda to install client regimes.

Fri, 12/30/2011 - 14:57 | 2022144 AlaricBalth
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November 6, 2012 (AP) 10:46.23 pm EST

"Obama defeated in a landslide!"

In one of the biggest upsets in the history of presidential elections, Republican candidate Ron Paul, defeated the incumbent, President Barack Obama, the Democratic candidate. Four states — Ohio, Florida, Texas and Illinois — with a combined 102 electoral votes, secured Paul's victory. In each state, Paul prevailed by a margin of less than 1 percent. However, the heartland or flyover states, voted overwhelmingly for Mr. Paul.

Obama — confident of winning on the basis of Paul's purported unpopularity and out of the mainstream views — had run a vapid, risk-free campaign. By contrast, Paul scornfully targeted the DEM-controlled U.S. Senate and the GOP-controlled U.S. House, launching a relentless wave of blistering bi-partisan attacks. Paul's campaign also concentrated on the activities of the Federal Reserve in the wake of the stock market crash of this past August and the subsequent economic downturn. His campaign slogan "It's the Fed, stupid.", was reminiscent of a slogan used during Pres. Bill Clinton's campaign, "it's the economy, stupid." This slogan, and Mr. Paul's laser-like focus on the Fed and in particular former Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke, seemed to strike the right chord with voters from the heartland most affected by the economic problems we now are contending with. The formation of an Asian Currency Union and China's challenge to the U.S. Dollar as the reserve currency were also problems that plagued Pres. Obama and the Fed. Mr. Bernanke, who resigned under pressure, has been in seclusion for the past 2 months and could be facing indictment under a Paul Administration.

Most pollsters had been so sure Obama would win that they had stopped polling weeks before the election — missing a late surge by Mr. Paul.

Fri, 12/30/2011 - 14:59 | 2022151 fuu
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Help us Obi-Ron, you're our only hope.

Fri, 12/30/2011 - 15:12 | 2022189 slewie the pi-rat
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i'm back from a forest of "page not found" trees

which i entered trying to respond w/ a ref to your colorful comment on a prior string

i thought we had ourselves an open string, there  L0L!!!

for the record, redpill was first, and i still can't stop L_0L_MFAO [about six of us got on an earlier version of this string in which there was no article!]


Fri, 12/30/2011 - 15:36 | 2022245 fuu
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Best article ever really, nothing was OT at all!

Fri, 12/30/2011 - 16:47 | 2022192 youLilQuantFuker
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This is the first time in my life that I will vote, and I'm not young.

Provoked by witnessing a disease that is plaguing our country.

Looking for a doctor with a actual cure.

No matter what party affiliation RP ends up in, WRITE HIM IN as the candidate of choice, even if he ends up the Republican candidate.

Write in's must be manually processed and in most cases cannot be manipulated by a Diebold-like company from Tel Aviv.

Want to see more vulnerable holes than in a DC whore house:

By breaking the seal on just one voting machine, a criminal could launch a vote-stealing virus that could spread to every machine in a county.

This bug sheds light on the vendor’s software engineering practices, because it is a very unusual error for an experienced C++ programmer to make. Characters and character arrays are very different constructs in C++. Students using the language for the first time might confuse the two, but experienced programmers who understand basic concepts like pointers would be unlikely to confuse them. The probability that an experienced C++ programmer
would make such a mistake or overlook it during even a cursory review of the code is exceptionally low. This suggests to us that after this code was written it was not reviewed by any other engineers at Diebold.

Engineered malware.

Write it in.

Sat, 12/31/2011 - 03:03 | 2023339 trav7777
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code probably written by H1B from china or india

Sat, 12/31/2011 - 04:39 | 2023378 StychoKiller
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The part that chaps my hide about this is that such code is considered "intellectual property", and is hence closed-source -- fsck that noise!

Fri, 12/30/2011 - 15:55 | 2022289 donis
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me and my wife just designed some tshirts that say" Dr. OB Ron,  you are our only hope"  between the coma break is sandwiched in a drawing of OB1( but with ron pauls head) holding the lightsaber in front of the falcon.  we also desingned another shirt that depicts the fight scene with vader from that same sequence, and with pauls head swaped for ob1's...  it simply reads  "END THE FED"  all in starwas font.  they are awesome!

Fri, 12/30/2011 - 16:02 | 2022303 fuu
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Where can we pick one up my ape brother?

Fri, 12/30/2011 - 16:43 | 2022420 donis
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we just finished up the designs, and need to get them digitized.(wife did graphite on paper)...,them get them printed. we planed to just print a coulpe for our selves but if you send me some tshirts with return packaging and postage... and pledge at least 30 bux to Dr. paul, we'll print you up some as well.  THIS GOES FOR EVERY ONE.  i can email you back the graphic preveiw, before you commit.

Fri, 12/30/2011 - 17:42 | 2022571 xela2200
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Just place them in

Fri, 12/30/2011 - 18:06 | 2022645 Orly
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Then, let us know when they're ready.  Methinks you'll have a lot more takers than you imagine right now...

Sat, 12/31/2011 - 01:44 | 2023271 Joseph Jones
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I'm in.

Sat, 12/31/2011 - 03:04 | 2023340 trav7777
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that is beyond ghey

Sat, 12/31/2011 - 12:53 | 2023616 fuu
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Coming from you that is actually high praise.

Fri, 12/30/2011 - 15:07 | 2022171 SheepDog-One
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Its a nice dream, like the American Dream, only problem is youve got to be asleep to believe in it.

Fri, 12/30/2011 - 17:26 | 2022522 MarcusLCrassus
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Well the GOP has seen RP surge in the polls and has just moved where they will count the votes for the Iowa caucuses to an 'undisclosed location". 

The fix is in.  Even when RP wins, TPTB, his own party FFS, will make him lose.  This is total bs and I hope the folks over in Iowa raise hell about this.

Sat, 12/31/2011 - 13:15 | 2023634 fuu
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Too bad for them that 5 of the 17 Iowa Republican Central Committee members are Ron Paul supporters, one of which is his Iowa campaign chairman.


A caucus is not like a general election. You don't go in a booth and pull a lever. The votes are out in the open. The tabulation is done in the room and reported up. Representatives in each precinct have a copy of the vote. 


Just more scare tactics trying to shake out the gullible and uninformed. It's the only wepon they have.

Fri, 12/30/2011 - 20:43 | 2022935 SilverRhino
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November 7, 2012 (AP) 1:46.23 am EST

Massive Urban Rioting

In response to reports of a Ron Paul victory, riots have broken out across the nation in a wave of looting and burning and frustrated minorities have taken to the streets.   This story is still unfolding.

Sat, 12/31/2011 - 02:50 | 2023329 buyingsterling
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Nov. 8th - Americans have taken to the streets, armed, to defend their businesses, homes, and neighborhoods. When asked about the bold action, most replied, "This President won't send families who are defending their property to the FEMA camps."

Fri, 12/30/2011 - 14:57 | 2022145 Jason T
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IT seems the writing is on the wall and Brandon just read it to each of us.  Been long a chinese stock that has taken me back to the woodshed, mainly as a play to diversify out of the US$ and into the RMB.  I still belive this strategy will pay off.  

Fri, 12/30/2011 - 14:57 | 2022147 SWRichmond
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I agree completely with the author's assessment. 

This announcement was a surprise to me: "This key catalyst is the inclusion of Japan in ASEAN..."; a surprise of timing, not of content.  I have already written about this elsewhere.  China's moves to seperate itself from USD have been plain for all to see.  Japan's willingness, or coercion, into agreeing to this could be foreseen.

Edit: next is Taiwan.

Fri, 12/30/2011 - 17:49 | 2022593 xela2200
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Japan is broke. China is now the rich cousin. Politics makes strange bed fellows. Nanking is now forgiven or forgotten. If that is not proof that war accomplishes nothing. Germany and France are buddies and so is Japan and China. I wonder if Japan and Russia can Kiss and make up too. :-)

Fri, 12/30/2011 - 18:07 | 2022648 Orly
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Still the sick man of Asia.  This idea will never die.

Sat, 12/31/2011 - 11:45 | 2023564 sun tzu
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US and Britain became allies after two wars. Same with US-Germany. The Mexicans still hate us though

Sat, 12/31/2011 - 16:27 | 2023896 DosZap
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sun tzu

They better start FEELING the love, cause I have a hunch after Iran, we will be seing Ameixico come into play.

Their country need to be totally annexed into the US.We support it as it is, and have for YEARS.

Sat, 12/31/2011 - 03:08 | 2023344 FlyPaper
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Probably half of ZH followers are also trying to 'get out of the dollar.'  Who wouldn't?   With Obama gunning for his 'change you can believe in' which requires a collapse you can believe in, its not wonder he is spending money hand over fist.  

Given how bossy China is behaving in the South China sea, and how worried those countries are becoming, the "we're going to all come to a chinese party in SE Asia" seems more than a little far fetched to me.  They might be forced (like Austria with Germany) but the barriers to those countries accepting the Yuan, when they know full well China wants to dominate them, especially with a 'central bank' concept is silly, except or unless China tries to do what Japan did in WWII.   

Yugoslavia only held together the different ethnic groups (as did the USSR) at the point of a gun.  It never lasts for long.  

The stupidity of the 'let's bust up America' fabian-marxists ideology doesn't seem to consider that there's a lot of people out there that'd love nothing more than to see us eat dirt.   We are doing the British empire thing.  Not enough money and over-extended = empire collapse.

China will try and fill the vacuum. 



Sat, 12/31/2011 - 03:30 | 2023358 Bringin It
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Re. Given how bossy China is behaving in the South China sea, and how worried those countries are becoming, the "we're going to all come to a chinese party in SE Asia" seems more than a little far fetched to me.  They might be forced (like Austria with Germany) but the barriers to those countries accepting the Yuan, when they know full well China wants to dominate them, especially with a 'central bank' concept is silly, except or unless China tries to do what Japan did in WWII.

Is $11B considered big money anymore?

How about $15B?

I hear people saying Myanmar/Burma is about to run to day-light and embrace the West.  I would not bet on it.  They don't need a weatherman to know the way the wind blows.

Fri, 12/30/2011 - 15:01 | 2022159 heremynkitty
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Must be time to pick up some Sino-Forest, eh?   Perhaps RenRen?

Fri, 12/30/2011 - 15:02 | 2022161 youLilQuantFuker
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ZHews vs. Asian.

Let's get it on bitchez!

Fire away with the anti-Asian comments!

Let's get some laughs in today.

Fri, 12/30/2011 - 15:14 | 2022183 SheepDog-One
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Whoever thought 30 years ago that we'd ship all our jobs and factories overseas to China and borrow money from them to buy cheap 'goods' (cheap crap laced with poison) as being an economic model that would lead to anything but disaster was dreaming.

Fri, 12/30/2011 - 15:18 | 2022207 youLilQuantFuker
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Below the belt hits are A-OK in the fight club.

I lost my economic model to the fucking Indians(red dot not woo-woo).

Sat, 12/31/2011 - 04:16 | 2023371 Sokhmate
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"Indians(red dot not woo-woo)" <-- GOLD

Fri, 12/30/2011 - 15:35 | 2022241 ozziindaus
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This happened before you know. Japan was a low cost cheap shit nation back in the 50's. China will not lead the world. You cannot force culture on people and throughout history, the leading nation was always culturally emulated and aspired towards. What is certain with all my world travels is that everyone wants to be American. 

Fri, 12/30/2011 - 15:39 | 2022251 youLilQuantFuker
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In my travels I have noticed that everyone wants Hollywood's version of the American lifestyle.

A Central Bankers wet dream....

Fri, 12/30/2011 - 22:16 | 2023086 MeBizarro
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Spot on

Fri, 12/30/2011 - 16:30 | 2022380 Kalevi
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WOW! You nail it allright, American culture is what the world needs, I mean, what the hell do those upstarts know about culture and ambition?

What is certain with all my world travels is that I never want be American.


Happy new year!

Fri, 12/30/2011 - 17:17 | 2022493 Karl von Bahnhof
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10 years ago, maybe...

American culture???

Fri, 12/30/2011 - 18:33 | 2022705 Fred C Dobbs
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70 years ago, maybe...


Fri, 12/30/2011 - 20:24 | 2022901 Tompooz
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"What is certain with all my world travels is that everyone wants to be American. "


Did you stop traveling for the last 15 years?

Sat, 12/31/2011 - 03:08 | 2023342 trav7777
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nah, they do...fkin was just in south america and the locals dressed more american than I do. 

Sat, 12/31/2011 - 03:36 | 2023360 the tower
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Everyone wants to be American? LOL, you have not traveled much my friend.

Sat, 12/31/2011 - 18:09 | 2023991 mjk0259
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Most of the recent immigrants I know in America, don't want to be American.

Sun, 01/01/2012 - 15:57 | 2025025 DosZap
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Most of the recent immigrants I know in America, don't want to be American

No, now that the Golden Goose has been murdered.

WE just wants yo good shit, n go home.

Those are not Immigrants, they are LEECHES.

If your an Immigrant,then the reason you came is to become a citizen, now that shits tough, NO MAS.

Fri, 12/30/2011 - 15:03 | 2022164 Right-on Left-off
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OK, now that the world reserve currency 'switcheroo' is out in the open ......  What are the actions to take?  Panda memorials????

Fri, 12/30/2011 - 15:04 | 2022166 Jack Sheet
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Where are the quantitative data on what % of transactions currently in USD will be conducted in 2012 in ASEAN currencies instead ? The growth rate of this figure? Could be a drop in the bucket. This is a purely qualiattive analysis.

Fri, 12/30/2011 - 15:07 | 2022170 SWRichmond
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If your point is that it's not going to happen tomorrow, you are correct.

Do you want to jump onto the "timing" railroad tracks?  I don't know about you, but I suck at timing.

Fri, 12/30/2011 - 15:15 | 2022196 Jack Sheet
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OK, granted, but I wish these guys good luck in replacing the dollar as the world reserve currency. What are they going to buy energy with? What is more likely is that the yen and yuan, at least, will have a bigger weighting in SDRs which will probably succeed the USD accoording to J Rickards.

Fri, 12/30/2011 - 15:07 | 2022172 High Plains Drifter
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what is globalization and who is behind it?   who started communism in china?   is china controlled like everyone else?   you look on that stage and probably everyone of those sons of bitches is a freemason.  is there a moral to this story. you damn right.   it has been decided by the hidden hand (whoever that is duh? )  that , china is the next big thing in this world. not sure why. who knows. the chinese move according to the wishes and the will of the hidden hand , like everyone else does. nothing happens by accident (at least i would state that this is the case most of the time) but of course sometimes useful idiots do wander off the reservation and then these people are corrected.......the new world order is the goal and the ends justifies the means, whatever it takes........amerikans must understand. your candle is being extinguished. look around you.  can you see it?   our time is short. we must throw off these chains or we are finished.  if not us, then who shall do this?   who? 




what time is it?

Fri, 12/30/2011 - 15:11 | 2022187 SheepDog-One
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These people will do it, I'm pretty sure theyre strong revolutionaries--> FOREVER LAZY COMMERCIAL - YouTube

Fri, 12/30/2011 - 15:29 | 2022233 Al Huxley
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LMAO! Yeah, when sweatpants and a hoodie just don't quite cut it, back to the sleepers you loved so much as a baby. These people will definitely lead the charge against kleptocratic corruption, theft and malfeasance - but first, a little nap in front of the TV.

Fri, 12/30/2011 - 15:47 | 2022268 High Plains Drifter
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pathetic is all i can say.   we are truely pathetic............

Fri, 12/30/2011 - 17:54 | 2022612 my puppy for prez
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I guess Paris has deemed SNUGGIES passe!

Is thumb sucking required while wearing a "lazy"?

Fri, 12/30/2011 - 17:53 | 2022607 my puppy for prez
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You know, those Forever Lazy things look pretty tempting....I'm just afraid that if I got one I would become FOREVER LAZY!


Fri, 12/30/2011 - 15:35 | 2022242 Hugh G Rection
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The hidden hand is the cocksucking elite and the NWO.  Just started reading Bill Cooper's book (the guy that predicted 9/11 3months b4 it happened, also the guy that was gunned down 2 months after 9/11).


"Behold A Pale Horse" It can be downloaded for free at this site.

Fri, 12/30/2011 - 19:05 | 2022768 Iwanttoknow
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!000 up arrows.

Fri, 12/30/2011 - 19:19 | 2022802 Dr.Vannostrand
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1st read it a couple of years ago. Definately a must read for any doomer, I mean realist.

Fri, 12/30/2011 - 17:29 | 2022536 Karl von Bahnhof
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Absolutely agree!
Either you will stop this as soon as possible or you will be totally exhausted, used and thrown away as Germany was before.
You will be sued by whole world and war reparations will be put onto you for next 50 years.
Your army will be demobilized an resources denied. By the same people who are leading you today.
At that time they will be already on the winning side living in china and laughing all the time.
You still have some time to change it, but not very much.

Please doo it, for heavens sake...

Fri, 12/30/2011 - 18:40 | 2022721 Fred C Dobbs
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This is Alex Jones says too and I think it may be true.  

Fri, 12/30/2011 - 15:07 | 2022173 steve from virginia
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There aren't enough yuan in general circulation to consider it a reserve currency.

Meanwhile, China is flat broke, having 'invested' in thousands of Gigantic Stone Heads ... excuse me, gigantic empty concrete towers within empty concrete cities: high speed trains that crash over and over into each other, plus pollution and energy waste.

'Pollution and energy waste': good things that are excellent investments. right 'Eurozone'?


Fri, 12/30/2011 - 15:18 | 2022206 ozziindaus
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Right on. $10 billion spent globally each day on oil alone. Besides, who is going to trust anyone else but the US with their reserves? Full Faith and Credit really translates to Big Guns 

Fri, 12/30/2011 - 15:08 | 2022176 Al Huxley
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It seems to me the only viable course of action by the US at this point is to declare war on Asia.

Fri, 12/30/2011 - 15:11 | 2022188 heremynkitty
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Ron Paul will get right on it.

Fri, 12/30/2011 - 15:09 | 2022185 ozziindaus
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There will be no hesitation to launch missiles towards any nation that threatens the USD. If you control the money supply, you control the world.


Fri, 12/30/2011 - 15:58 | 2022280 cranky-old-geezer
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There will be no hesitation to launch missiles towards any nation that threatens the USD.

... except if that nation is China and its thermonuclear partner Russia.

In that scenario America would be "out-gunned" 4 - 1, many American cities would be obliterated, and America would cease to be a functioning nation.

40 years ago Russia successfully tested the biggest hydrogen bomb ever made, the "Tsar" bomb, yielding 57 megaton. 

By comparison the Hiroshima bomb was 0.015 megaton, Nagasaki 0.020 megaton. 

"Tsar" was 2800 times more powerful.  One "Tsar" would obliterate the entire Dallas - Fort Worth metroplex, 70 miles east to west.

The orginal design was 100 megaton, but it would vaporize the high altitude jet dropping it, so they scaled it back to 50 megaton, and the air crew still wasn't guaranteed they'd survive the blast.

That was 40 years ago.  How much ya wana bet it's 100 megaton now ...delivered by an ICBM of course?

China is Russia's major trading partner, and was the first nation entering into a bilateral currency agreement with Russia, bypassing the USD completely.  That happened a few years ago.

Russia wouldn't lob nukes on American cities if China were attacked?

You're living in a fantasy world, not the real world.


Fri, 12/30/2011 - 18:51 | 2022750 CPL
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Does it look like the powers that be want anyone to be around to remember the mess that they created?

Fri, 12/30/2011 - 20:50 | 2022950 SilverRhino
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Jesus fucking Christ you anti-Americans are fucking stupid.  

The USA invented the atomic bomb, the thermonuclear weapon, lasers, antimatter and all kinds of other shit.   What the FUCK, do you honestly think America STOPPED coming up with new and exciting ways to kill people during an all out war?  

  • Isomer warheads
  • Antimatter microencapsulation weapons
  • Project Thor / Space based KEW
  • Rail gun artillery
  • Directed robot swarms (UCAV)
  • Nanobot dissassembling warheads

NO ONE has seen the USA play it's REAL high cards in the last 60 fucking years. 

Fri, 12/30/2011 - 21:03 | 2022979 fnord88
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There has not been enough anti matter made in the entire history of particle physics to let off a fire cracker let alone a decent sized bomb.


Every gram of matter launced into space is documented and accounted for.


Nano tech ( the real kind you speak of) is 20 years away at least, maybe 100's.


Rail guns are good to go.

Fri, 12/30/2011 - 21:21 | 2023005 fnord88
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that said, the DoD's space budget has been bigger than NASA's since forever, so I am assuming they have some very cool stuff at their disposal. At the very least an armed space shuttle that can fly around killing strategic satellites.

Sat, 12/31/2011 - 02:09 | 2023277 cranky-old-geezer
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NO ONE has seen the USA play it's REAL high cards in the last 60 fucking years.

Doesn't matter. Attacking China would unleash a thermonuclear holocaust taking America down to 3rd world status overnight, if not the end of modern civilization completely.

That's not anti-American you short-sighted moron. It's acknowledging the real threats out there.

This criminal psychopathic American government you seem to love so much wouldn't risk the entire American population trying to maintain its position as world bully? Of course they would.

Everybody starts playing their "high cards" you speak of, and humanity might just cease to exist on this planet.

One thing's for damn sure.  You and I would be dead ...or wish we were dead.

Sat, 12/31/2011 - 02:00 | 2023290 Joseph Jones
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BBB,bbb, bb, bbbbb, but God is on OUR side (and Israel's)!  After all, Israel is the fulfillment of the Old Testament!  And Jews are God's chosenites, you know, because they got the right DNA, being that we can trace our DNA right back to Abraham, and all, you know, so says our Jewish science labs, and God knows they are unbiased, independent Jewish scientists...After all, the Bible says: "We will bless (give winning lottery ticket numbers too) those who bless you, and curse (drop nuclear weapons on) those who curse you"...we got the title to this place signed by God right in our glove box! 

Sun, 01/01/2012 - 16:10 | 2025061 DosZap
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 being that we can trace our DNA right back to Abraham, and all, you know, so says our Jewish science labs, and God knows they are unbiased, independent Jewish scientists.

Your right about one thing, GOD will take care of Israel,likely by earthly means(our help), but HE is not on anyone elses side either count on it.

HE has no favorites(except thru Covenant),HE is not a man that HE w/should/could LIE.....................
HE keeps HIS covenants,and HE will keep the one's made with Israels Forefathers.

Plus Israel is not the fullfilment of the Old Testament.

As for the DNA ...............................Arabs and Jews are BLOOD relatives.


Sat, 12/31/2011 - 06:47 | 2023410 Snidley Whipsnae
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Cranky Old Geezer... Most can't see through the nationalistic bs they have been indoctrinated to... even when the banksters and pols are raping their asses daily... therefore we get all these clowns claiming the US would win WW3 in a cake walk.

The delusional cannot see what is coming.

Here... read a little about the SCO... especially the military and economic cooperation portions. The SCO represents 60% of all humanity and yet no one discusses or even mentions it.

Fri, 12/30/2011 - 15:31 | 2022195 anonnn
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When you are severely oppressed for hundreds of years, the only way out is to think-analyse-act with greatest care for what works and what does not.

The penalty for error in that think-analyze-act process is prison-torture-death.

The reward is a workable option to that  severe oppression.

To wit: Russia under 350 years of Romanoff family Czars [Caesars];  China 200 years under foreign occupiers/influence; India under 150 years under foreign occupation; etc...and there are many etceteras!

Do not look for data on this in group-think textbooks. Those sources are  deliberately toxic to analysis.

[BTW, the article references ASEAN, which confuses me. ASEAN consists of only 10 SE Asia countries...and does not include China, Japan.

Fri, 12/30/2011 - 15:16 | 2022198 batterycharged
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Wait, so China no longer depends on exports?


Fri, 12/30/2011 - 15:16 | 2022201 GeneMarchbanks
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They spelled 'Asian' as 'Asean'. That alone should tell you the seriousness of this Union.

Fri, 12/30/2011 - 15:18 | 2022208 SheepDog-One
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It's as-bonics, cant a rice eatin brother get his slang on?

Fri, 12/30/2011 - 15:58 | 2022228 GeneMarchbanks
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Strangely enough, this is the exact same line-up at "The Worlds Smallest Penises Convention".


Oh, yeah... one before New Years.

Brandon = new Leo. Talkin' that QE3 nonsense...

Fri, 12/30/2011 - 15:25 | 2022220 inkarri9
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It's an acronym for "Association of SouthEast Asian Nations".

Fri, 12/30/2011 - 15:39 | 2022252 oddjob
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2 seconds of D.D. looking pretty good about now.

Fri, 12/30/2011 - 15:17 | 2022204 heremynkitty
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Where's the ramp?  I want a ramp!

Fri, 12/30/2011 - 15:17 | 2022205 _underscore
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Funny how these things seem to happen in slow motion, but you know you're actually going at a velocity that it means you can't do a damn thing about it, the ultimate outcome that is. A bit like a car crash, if you've ever been in one. With the ASEAN, together with nascent PAGE being born & gold denominated accounts now available in China- one must draw one's plans accordingly.


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