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Submitted by John Azis of Azizonomics

Obama Embraces Gay Marriage


Obama and Corzine — A Match Made in Heaven?

Unlike virtually every mainstream media commentator or political talking head I don’t care about Obama embracing gay marriage.

Now I know that a lot of people on the left — disappointed by his banker-friendly, PATRIOT Act-renewing, indefinite-detention-enabling, American-citizen-assassinating regime — are searching for any reason to vote for him, and plausible reason to defend his record. That’s the nature of tribal politics — “anti-war” Democrats will happily protest the Bush war machine, but they seem quiet when Obama is the one using drone strikes to assassinate American citizens without trial. I don’t like Mitt Romney either, but that’s not the point.

Even for those in favour of gay marriage, let’s not forget that Obama is capable of doing absolutely zero to change the law. Want to introduce a law allowing homosexual couples to marry? Good luck getting it through the Republican Congress.

I’m in favour of consenting adults being able to do whatever they like with each other, but the fact that the current push for gay marriage is supported by Lloyd Blankfein and Goldman Sachs makes me very suspicious (does he want to sell securitised gay marriage debt?).

It just seems like an easy issue for Obama to posture on, while trampling the Constitution into the dirt.

When it comes to civil liberties, Obama has always talked a good game, and then acted more authoritarian than Bush. He talked about an end to the abuses of the Bush years and an open and transparent government, yet extended the Fourth-Amendment-shredding Patriot Act, empowered the TSA to produce naked body scans and engage in humiliatingly sexual pat-downs, signed indefinite detention of American citizens into law, claimed and exercised the power to assassinate American citizens without trial, and aggressively prosecuted whistleblowers. Under his watch the U.S. army even produced a document planning for the reeducation of political activists in internment camps. Reeducation camps? In America? And some on the left are still crowing that talking about being in favour of gay marriage makes him “pro civil liberties”? Is this a joke?

Here are a few metrics that we should be judging Obama on:

People not in the labour force is spiking:

The public debt keeps soaring and soaring from eyeball-watering multi-trillion dollar deficits:

Meanwhile India, Iran, China, Russia, Saudi Arabia and Japan have all ditched the dollar for other currencies in new bilateral trade agreements — which lest us forget is America’s biggest export, and the product that keeps goods and oil flowing into America. This is an extremely dangerous time. While we cannot lump Obama with the blame for the entire U.S. economic system — the system we have was accumulated via Bush, and Cheney, and Paulson, and Clinton, and Bush, and Reagan, and Carter, and Brzezinski, and Nixon, and Kissinger, and Johnson, and Roosevelt and Wilson and Lincoln and probably most significantly of all the father of central banking Alexander Hamilton — Obama certainly has not improved matters.

And it should be obvious to anyone paying attention that Romney — who claims he would support the NDAA and the PATRIOT Act, that he wants to attack Iran, and has hired many ex-Bush staffers, as well as winning the endorsement of both Jeb and George H.W. Bush, and bizarrely claiming to want to start a trade war with China — is cut from the exact same cloth as Bush and Obama.

This is a dead election. Here’s hoping that Ron Paul — who continues to pick up delegates in the Republican race even while being ignored by the mainstream media who would rather talk about Obama’s posturing on gay rights — can cause some mayhem.

 

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Thu, 05/10/2012 - 11:00 | 2413153 Henry Chinaski
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Sideshow.  Main event is the economy. 

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 11:01 | 2413163 Deo vindice
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Historically, morals and economy of a society are generally linked. As one goes, so goes the other.

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 11:06 | 2413187 Popo
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Shit, I must have been a little behind on the news lately.   Obummer embraces gay marriage with whom?   

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 11:07 | 2413191 Born Patriot
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GODDAMMIT!! I'm SICK of this multiculturalist MUSLIM President ruining this great country. What happened to AMERICAN values? What happened to American TRADITION? The ONLY candidate that stands for freedom, decency and FREEDOM OF ASSOCIATION is RON PAUL.

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 11:07 | 2413198 redpill
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Ron Paul wouldn't want government telling people who to marry either, troll.

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 11:13 | 2413217 Born Patriot
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RON PAUL is a CHRISTIAN, moron. But I guess that doesn't concern you and your fag multiculturalist friends.

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 11:17 | 2413233 Rahm
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There are a few posters here who are very excited by Obama's announcment.  The rest of us don't give a flying fuck.  Makes you wonder...

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 11:34 | 2413295 Arthor Bearing
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Born Patriot mocks himself. An agent provacetuer? Or just a dick who makes all of us look bad? Bring back the math captcha.

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 11:54 | 2413413 Dr. Richard Head
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Your answer must be 3 characters long......Born Patriot seems a few characters short of an answer.

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 12:46 | 2413650 Bring the Gold
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This post is curious to me. Aziz made a rather big deal about using the military to crush riots in the UK last year and now he is pro-civil liberties? I guess he means pro his and speicifically only HIS freedom. I like the article but the hypocrisy is rather breathtaking considering what he advocated across the pond.

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 13:23 | 2413760 Badabing
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The MSM has been spining this stupid homo headline for two days enough is enough how about this headline.


Meh  a new Snorg Tee girl!

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 13:44 | 2413857 strannick
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if you cant dazzle em with dynamic economics, baffle them with ideological bullshit

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 14:49 | 2413955 Aziz
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Bring the gold —

 

1/ I didn't really advocate it, but I did say that if it continued it could be kind of an inevitable response and that previous British PMs would have done it.

2/ When you start smashing stuff up from ordinary shops and homes (I live in the UK, I know the areas, these rioters weren't protesting banks or the government, they were just smashing up their neighbours' property and stealing things) then you are a common criminal and a thug and in my view you must be stopped from destroying other people's property.

3/ Because of 2/ that isn't really a civil liberties issue. You don't have the right to destroy other people's property — quite the opposite, you have a right to be secure in your person and property, which means that if you start destroying other people's stuff, you need to be stopped.

4/ If they had genuinely been anti-banking or anti-government protests it would have been very different. I still don't support destroying your neighbours' property, though.

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 17:46 | 2414886 smiler03
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So you're a 24 year old from the UK, "I live in the UK, I know the areas". Oh yeah, you know the areas? You're no doubt a southern wanker who hasn't ventured further north than Tottenham (in London for those who don't know, where the worst of the riots happened).

I agree with you that the violence was purely civil disobedience and nothing more, pure vandalism and robbery motivated.

But.. You advocated using the "military" to break up the riots? You want the British Army keeping control on British streets? If you think that, and I don't doubt that you do, then you're a sad tosser who doesn't deserve to live in this country. If you think the military on the streets is a good idea then you'd probably feel at home in a few African Republics. Not even Greece has descended to putting the military on the streets.

Your post by the way has a ridiculous sensationalist headline, almost all of it has nothing to do with "Gay Marriage".

You're a stupid little child who has probably never been further away from home than university. Grow up, understand what the military on the streets represents and most importantly of all, get stuffed, preferably anally". 

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 17:48 | 2414892 smiler03
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By the way, your points 2, 3 and 4 are identical to each other. You don't even have your 24 year old brain synapses functioning correctly.

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 17:32 | 2414807 smiler03
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deleted, I made a mistook

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 13:18 | 2413757 blunderdog
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I think there are a fair number of provocateurs here. 

If they put enough really totally batshit crazy stuff here in the comments section, so-called "respectable" people can dismiss any ZH article or comment by saying, "That's the site with the [Nazis/gaybashers/dominionists/communists/whatever-the-fuck-else-you-want-to-use] all over it, right?"

That same tactic has very effectively spread the idea that Ron Paul is a racist.

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 14:03 | 2413956 AnAnonymous
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That same tactic has very effectively spread the idea that Ron Paul is a racist.
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Is he not? Who US citizen is a racist nowadays anyway?

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 14:07 | 2413970 Bay of Pigs
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Speaking of raving lunatics and douchebags...

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 15:17 | 2414284 Kayman
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Chinese culture is racist based. Take the log out of your own eye first. 

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 11:20 | 2413245 Dr. Engali
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And RoboTrader was the one to get the boot?

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 11:28 | 2413274 Divided States ...
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This incompetent foo is trying to get votes from anybody he can get, first he suckered the black voters in, secondly he caved in to the fat cat bankers (Larry Fink et al) and rich arrogant foos (Warren Buffett) and now he's desperate to promote queerness and get more potential votes. if Bammy wins the november elections, lets just say that theres more queers out there than you think.

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 11:40 | 2413293 The Big Ching-aso
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"It's the blow jobs, stupid."

 

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 12:11 | 2413501 FlyoverCountryS...
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BINGO!!! 

Only 2% of the US population is gay. Another 3% MAY be bi, if some slanted studies are to be believed.

BUT, the Mainstream media and Hollywood are 50%+ gay. This was all about solidifying his Hollywood Money and Big Media base.

Back in 2008, some politically-incorrect article pointed out that 58% of NBC News New York staffers were Gay,Bi,lesbian or transgendered. in 2009, the Village Voice called the New York Times Editorial Board "THE GAY MAFIA", because every single one of them was GAY, and radical gay, to boot.

When you begin to understand THAT, you begin to understand why our media has become so biased.

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 12:31 | 2413538 The Big Ching-aso
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A gay supportive candidate could come from behind and blow the head off the competition.

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 12:42 | 2413633 jus_lite_reading
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A gay supportive president will move a head fast...

A gay supportive presiednt could surprise from behind...

A gay supportive president could open the back door and let the navy seamen cum home...

 

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 12:55 | 2413691 HungrySeagull
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"I did not have sex with THAT Man."

Ugh.

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 11:32 | 2413283 Sauk Leader
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Am I wrong or wasnt this picture a caption contest a while back? If not it should be...

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 11:47 | 2413353 The Big Ching-aso
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Metro-sexual voters can now come out of the closet and just vote for the party working behind them.

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 12:52 | 2413670 redpill
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I don't understand how his black supporters don't find that offensive.

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 11:29 | 2413280 Tsunami Wave
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Uhhh sure thing fake troll who sounds like a liberal. You should go back to www.dailykos.com, www.huffingtonpost.com, or any of the other 501(c)3's you probably came from.

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 11:39 | 2413332 DaveyJones
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Let me see...are they gonna make me marry gay? No?...Oh, then why all the fuss?  - JS

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 12:05 | 2413361 The Big Ching-aso
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Gay initiatives these days are very headstrong in their momen-tum.

 

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 12:17 | 2413524 passwordis
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 Ron Paul is a Christian and his position on gay marriage confuses many people. It's simple really but most people no longer possess the cognitive ability to understand simple. 

 Government should not be in the marriage business period. Marriage used to be a private social cultural issue.. not a legal government issue.   Today marriage is a contract between three parties, the government being one of them.   You are entering into a legal agreement with the government.   As long as you accept that then you must accept that government can define marriage any way it wants. It can change the definition at will. Now if you agree with Ron Paul, that marriage should NOT be a government issue, then people are left alone to make any decisions they like about a private matter. Gays could agree to have a private ceremony just as easily as anyone else.

 This is how it should be. People are free to live their private lives the way they want and Ron Paul does not have to agree with it.

 I happen to hate the idea of the government promoting Gay marriage but I hate the idea of Government promoting much or anything. I also think a gay lifestyle is unhealthy and should be avoided if possible and certainly not promoted as being acceptable in a healthy society but I'm not about to tell gays that they don't have the right to live the way they want.

It should also be known that it is NOT the grassroots gay community who has been promoting gay marriage.  It's a top down political agenda.

 

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 12:44 | 2413645 jus_lite_reading
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>>"It should also be known that it is NOT the grassroots gay community who has been promoting gay marriage.  It's a top down political agenda."<<

 

Lead by the AIPAC and Hollywood... 'nuff said

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 12:53 | 2413674 FlyoverCountryS...
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1-in-6 of Obama's Big Money Bundlers are queer.

Over 50% of Hollywood is Queer

58%+ of NBC News New York staffers are GLBTQ

The entire New York Times Editorial Board are Radical queers

50% of the Mainstream Media is queer.

 

Only 2% of the U.S. Population is gay, another 3% MAY be bi.

 

GET IT YET, FOLKS???

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 13:19 | 2413767 blunderdog
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I'm picking up a strong "anti-gay" vibe from ya.  Is that what we're supposed to GET?

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 14:19 | 2414028 passwordis
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 I'm picking up a strong "anti-gay" vibe from ya.  Is that what we're supposed to GET?

 

 Being anti gay is wrong. Fucking another dewd up the butt is where it's at. It's completely normal.. just ask the Jewish owned media and the Jewish controlled department of education. They are pro-gay.  That means they encourage children in kindergarten through twelfth grade via official curriculum, to view one man fucking the other man up the ass as a healthy lifestyle choice. .

 

 Clearly its' normal behavior for one man to oil up his penis and insert it in another man's shit hole.  If you think otherwise you are throwing out an anti-gay vibe and that just is'nt cool.

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 14:52 | 2414168 blunderdog
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Did you get all excited typing that post?

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 18:14 | 2415040 smiler03
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He  missed out Catholic priests.

For that matter any religious person who thinks that they are right and anybody who doesn't agree with them is a fucking hypocrite. The religious imbecilic idiots who constantly spout their own dogma are the worst, by their very own beliefs in; supreme being(s), son of a god raped virgin, hell and heaven, bloody big boats full of animals landing on a 11000+ feet mountain captained by a very old geezer; and all sorts of buffoonery.

By the way, the Muslims are right, oops I meant the Hindus, oops I meant the Taoists, oops I meant the Christians, oops I meant the Jews, oops, not all of you can be right. If you're not right, and the chances are that you've been brainwashed from birth and you are in a minority then who the hell can know who is right?

Yet you all (American Christians) insist that you have the right to assume you're right and deny human rights to people you don't agree with (gays & marriage).

I hate every last fucking one of you religious simpletons, especially the gay christians who must have the lowest IQ score on Earth.

Tyler, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE delete my ID.

PS PLEASE

PPS Most of all I hate that fucking idiot HAIRLESS HORSEDICK

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 22:14 | 2415991 passwordis
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Yet you all (American Christians) insist that you have the right to assume you're right and deny human rights to people you don't agree with (gays & marriage).

 

What Human "right" are we American Christians deigning to Gays?  The "right" to marry?  Marriage, in the untitled states is a legal contract between three parties, the Government being one of them. Marriage is not a right.    You should never ever call another person a simpleton when you don't have the slightest understanding of the subject.

   You and the other cognitive challenged pea brains are not talking about rights. You are talking about Government endorsement. You want the government to tell you what marriage is and who can get married. On the other hand, people with high cognitive function want the Government out of our private lives which means we believe people (yes even gays) have the  RIGHT to form any type of relationships they want WITHOUT government endorsement or approval.  We are the true defenders of rights. You and people like you don't have the ability to differentiate between rights and privileges. Marriage is not a right. Marriage is a contract that must be licensed. You need permission from the government to get married which makes it a privilege.. You do not need permission to exercise a right.

 You are asking the Government for permission for gays to marry. It has nothing to do with rights

 Again I reiterate, You of all people should never question the IQ of others.  You lack even a basic fundamental understanding of rights.

 

 

 

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 14:55 | 2414186 sdmodiano
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You have an amazing access to the demographic profiles of a very large mass of individuals.

Or, you are pulling numbers from your sphincter.

I would characterize your ability to quote uncited numbers for the sexual orientation of a wide swath of individuals to be... queer. 

That is the only thing I get from your post.

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 12:51 | 2413663 Bring the Gold
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I agree completely with Ron Paul's position on this. Let people's church and/or culture recognize marriage in whatever form they feel is appropriate and keep government out of it all together.

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 13:45 | 2413874 JimBowie1958
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I agree too for the most part.

The government should enforce contracts between couples, but should not engage in defining what 'marriage' is as that is a fundamentally religious institution. Let each faith decide that for themselves.

And I know marriage predates the establishment of formal religions, but so what? Shamen and priests predate formal religions too and were still asked to give their blessings in the new couple.

As for Obama's crap; I was considering voting for him, but no way now. I will never vote for anyone who supports homosexual marriage in any way shape or form, but civil unions are fine by me.

I really dont care who buggers who, but I dont want to pay for it or have mygovoernment endorse that perverted shit.

Whats next, the government will endorse bigamy?

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 14:19 | 2413917 passwordis
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The government should enforce contracts between couples, but should not engage in defining what 'marriage' is

 

 It's more than that. The Government is a party to the contract.  That's why you need a "license" to marry and permission to get a divorce.

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 18:21 | 2415079 smiler03
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Another classic fucking religious idiot who even manages to contradict himself!

"Let each faith decide that for themselves......

..... I will never vote for anyone who supports homosexual marriage in any way shape or form, but civil unions are fine by me."

So you're saying in one breath that they can decide for themselves but in the next breath you're saying you will never support them"

Another US Citizenism Religious Fucking Hypocrite.

PS Tyler, please delete my ID.

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 14:44 | 2414134 Hohum
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Au contraire, Bring the Gold.  Recognize marriage as a civil right and churches can marry who the fuck they want. 

You ZHers want private health insurance, right?  Marriage is crucial in how the private insurance system runs.

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 15:21 | 2414296 blunderdog
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    You ZHers want private health insurance, right?

May not want to make foolish assumptions about "what ZHers want" based on a limited sample of posts.  There's ZERO unanimity around these parts.

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 17:14 | 2414721 Charles Bishop ...
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I disagree.

 Ron should STFU : The "government" SHOULD  do customs control and census, and NO ONE from ANY "Church" should have ANY say over who does what with WHO. Christ Himself  would kick most 'Christian's' asses for getting it SO wrong.

 Disregard tired old congressbitches: stack PM'S.

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 17:45 | 2414883 DosZap
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 Christ Himself would kick most 'Christian's' asses for getting it SO wrong.

No, he would call it what GOD calls it, sin.

And HE would appeal to them (as he does all sinners), to repent, and come to him.

The Church does not just make THIS call,because they dislike or hate those who practice homosexuality(or any other sin for that matter) they preach it because its scriptural.................to preach against ANY sin named in scriptures,that are defined to be SIN.

If anyone says its not, they are ignorant or a liar.

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 18:23 | 2415100 smiler03
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You must know that the "scriptures" suggest all sorts of fucking nonsense, but never mind, be a US Citizenism who makes and obeys whatever rules he/she wants and fuck everybody else because you have the backing of "god".

PS Tyler, please delete my ID.

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 20:31 | 2415623 boiltherich
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Where to begin, scripture?  Are you fucking serious?  Did Paul Bunyan convince you of it's validity?  Seriously, get psychiatric attention.  Secondly, the so called xtian bible does not override the US constitution, not one word of it.  You can think and feel any way you please but if you are going to use your religious texts as justification for denying people basic human rights then I will be mor ethan happy to feed it to you page by page, unless you would rather have the entire thing inserted rectally.  I used to be tolerant of religion and religious people, but shit for brains hating christians have totally changed my mind about that.  You really need to get a dose of the bullshit you dish out and it cannot be too soon.

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 14:06 | 2413967 AnAnonymous
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Government should not be in the marriage business period. Marriage used to be a private social cultural issue.. not a legal government issue. Today marriage is a contract between three parties, the government being one of them. You are entering into a legal agreement with the government.

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You need a special kind of intelligence to understand that.

Private social cultural issue?

Marriage not a legal government issue?

Today marriage is a contract between three parties and?

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 16:01 | 2414428 Likstane
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Go suck on a cat burrito.

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 12:24 | 2413556 zerotohero
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You know they often say those that scream the loudest anti homosexual rant are usually VERY deep in the closest - now come on out you we know your hiding in there.

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 14:07 | 2413968 passwordis
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You know they often say those that scream the loudest anti homosexual rant are usually VERY deep in the closest

 Sure, you mean "They"  as in gay liberal communist wackos.

 

 So if you believe fucking another man up the ass is abnormal.. you are a closet gay.  Makes complete sense in the Orwellian world we live in today where up is down, evil is good and we get our news from wacko lesbians like Rachel Maddow.

 

 

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 18:32 | 2415135 smiler03
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I remember "having a go" (as we say in the UK) at Trav7777 about his own stated views on anal sex.

He said it was perfectly normal and a good thing to fuck a woman in "the ass" but if you did it to a man then that was disgusting.

Now if Trav is/was right then I'd be curious to know why one is right and one isn't. What is the difference between sticking a penis into a female or male anus?

Well?

I'm British and I confess to knowing that the American porn epmire is obsessed with anal sex, it's impossible not to notice.

Why?

PS Tyler, please delete my ID

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 18:55 | 2415249 FeralSerf
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"Why?"!!!!  You, a Brit, should fucking know.  You preverts taught Americans what "buggering", a fine(?) British tradition, was all about.

Fri, 05/11/2012 - 07:25 | 2416595 passwordis
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What is the difference between sticking a penis into a female or male anus?

 The difference is that the anus of the women is connected to a WOMEN.. You moron!  

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 20:42 | 2415672 boiltherich
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Fucking a man in the ass cannot be more abnormal than the perversion of someone anyone having sex with your biggoted ass.  And by the way, THEY are a very long list of scientists as I posted three such studies below including one from Scientific American, but then such as yourself has no hope of understanding anything in a Scientific American, except maybe for the booze ads.

Homophobes Might Be Hidden Homosexuals

A new analysis of implicit bias and explicit sexual orientation statements may help to explain the underpinnings of anti-gay bullying and hate crimes

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=homophobes-might-be-hidden-homosexuals

 

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 13:20 | 2413753 LarryDavis
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Christianity is for mongoloids and losers (so are ALL RELIGIONS). As a descendant of the Carolingan monarchy and part Finnish, I can say that NO SELF-RESPECTING ARYAN MAN believes in God or better yet that a Jew parading around Jerusalem was the son of God. DO YOU THINK JESUS' MOM DIDN'T FUCK? Get THE FUCK OUT OF HERE RUNNING YOUR MOUTH ABOUT CHRISTIANITY AND ALL THAT STPUID RELIGIOUS SHIT. If fags want to marry let them. MARRIAGE iS BASICALLY FOR SQUARES AND CONFORMISTS SO IF GAY PEOPLE WANT TO FIT IN THEN LET THEM. THAT'S AMERICA. SHOULD INTERRACIAL MARRIAGES BE BANNED NEXT? SHOULD WE GO BACKWARDS BECAUSE OF RELIGIOUS CONSTRUCTS EMANATING FROM A STORYBOOK WRITTEN THREE THOUSAND YEARS AGO ABOUT JEWS WANDERING THE DESERT? What if someone with a penis and vagina wants to get married? What does god say about hermaphrodites? Does jesus have any pearls of wisdom? RELIGION CAN"T FUCK WITH SCIENCE. RELIGION IS ALL ABOUT OPRESSION AND AN AFTERLIFE SO ONE DEOSN"T NOTICE HOW THE POWERS THAT BE GET OVER ON YOU.

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 13:42 | 2413852 JimBowie1958
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How about YOU go fuck yourself cretin.

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 18:35 | 2415149 smiler03
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Jim Bowie, what a well thought out reply.

Let me guess... erm.... you're a FUCKING HYPOCRITICAL AMERICAN CHRISTIAN NUTJOB??

PS Tyler, please delete my ID.

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 13:47 | 2413879 quasimodo
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Just tell us who you really are....an angry midget who dresses in drag. Now get that ball gag out of your mouth and turn off the caps lock you idiot.

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 14:00 | 2413950 LarryDavis
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I'M A REAL AMERICAN. NOT A PUSSY WHO GOES TO CHURCH AND BELIEVES IN THE FUCKING BOOGEYMAN. I DON'T LET MEDIEVAL NOTIONS GOVERN ME, MY MORALITY, OR INTELLECTUAL PURSUITS. HAVE YOUR GIRL/DAUGHTER SUCK THE INTERIOR OUT OF MY DICK. BITCH ASS. KEEP PRAYING AND VOTING REPUBLICAN. CULTS ARE GOOD FOR WEAK-MINDED LAMBS NOT EVEN SHEEP. 

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 15:25 | 2414311 Chaos_Theory
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So is this a reverse-Born Patriot sock puppet?  A hyper-Conservative being as obnoxious as possible posing as an atheist liberal/libertarian to make that side look bad?

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 17:09 | 2414690 LarryDavis
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No bro just dont like religious idiots.

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 17:47 | 2414889 CryingBear
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TURN YOUR FUKING CAPS OFF. ITS MAKING ME LOOK BAD.

Fri, 05/11/2012 - 07:30 | 2416609 passwordis
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 Ah yes, Science! Speak more of this science.

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 14:23 | 2414038 Karl von Bahnhof
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just cool a bit... And stop SHOUTIN

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 14:25 | 2414050 LarryDavis
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Yeah let's be civil towards people who believe they will see their grandparents after they die. Blow me. Religion needs to be eradicated not placated.

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 17:25 | 2414769 jus_lite_reading
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>>"I'M A REAL AMERICAN."<< 

Two minutes later...

>>"Religion needs to be eradicated not placated."<<

Yeah, a REAL AMERICAN!! LMAO!! I love how those who have to shout to the world "I'M AMERICAN" and wave the biggest ass American flag they can find are the worst offenders of everything truly American...

You don't even know what the meaning of being American is... you have your liberal dick so far up Odumbo's ass you can't see straight... Listen, get yourself a one way ticket to China or North Korea and GTFO of my country...

You're an angry man who needs to seek help... maybe the 'atheist flying spaghetti monster' can help you?

 

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 18:52 | 2415206 smiler03
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"Yeah, a REAL AMERICAN!! LMAO!!"

Well your argument is very clear. You are saying that if you're not religious you're not an American.

You are so simple you reveal your stupidity several times in your post. This guy you attack doesn't belong in America because you assume:

1. He's an "angry man"

2. He's liberal

3. He supports Obama

4. He can't see straight

5. You own America "GTFO of my country..."

6. He's waving "the biggest ass American flag they can find"

 

Listen mate. You're a fuckwit, that's for free. (The word "redneck" came to mind)

PS Tyler, please delete my ID. I've had my fill of stupid Americans and the new idiots here on ZH who are breeding faster than bacteria.

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 19:00 | 2415272 FeralSerf
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When bacteria breed, do they fuck each other in the ass?

Fri, 05/11/2012 - 22:44 | 2419281 boiltherich
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I think they fuck your wife and daughters in the ass after you get home from the "bookstore."

 

You are such a cretin you do not even understand that bacteria reproduce by mitosis.  You have your preachers dick so far up your ass when you talk white goo comes out. 

Fri, 05/11/2012 - 08:50 | 2416821 jus_lite_reading
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>>"Well your argument is very clear. You are saying that if you're not religious you're not an American."<<

Reading comprehension is not part of the cirriculum in England, correct? Read it again, wanker, until your brain makes a clicking sound. Neither you nor him know the meaning of being an American despite waving the big flag... I'll let you in on a not so secret secret: A TRUE AMERICAN believes in RELIGIOUS FREEDOM which includes the right to NOT PRACTICE RELIGION-- this imbecile said vaey plainly that RELIGION "SHOULD BE ABOLISHED"...

Sorry mate, that does not fly... and worse, after TSHTF people like you will find America a very dark place to exist.

>>"This guy you attack doesn't belong in America because you assume:

1. He's an "angry man" (He is an angry man filled with violence)

2. He's liberal (That goes without saying)

3. He supports Obama (See above)

4. He can't see straight (If he's the garden varitey English bloke then his teeth are neither)

5. You own America "GTFO of my country..." (Don't put words in my mouth son)

6. He's waving "the biggest ass American flag they can find" (Remember, he's a REAL AMERICAN!)<<

In summary, I hope you're not a lawyer because you'd make a weak case and we're done. I won't waste another key stroke on you.

PS TYLER: Please do all loyal ZH'ers a favor and 'honour' this bloke's request to delete his account. He has asked for it in every post he has made and still posts... he can't resist the urge to discuss with "stupid Americans"

 

Fri, 05/11/2012 - 02:39 | 2416387 LarryDavis
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What could I possibly be angry about? Maybe I should pray and the maladies that beset this country will vaporize like the pensions of the earnest proletariat? I know about contemporary America. If you believe in Christ then you are living in Medieval Europe SO GO FUCK A GNOME OR PUT ON A SUIT OF ARMOUR. YOU HAVE SHIT INSTEAD OF A BRAIN AND SHOULD STUDY SOME FUCKING BIOLOGY. THE TIME YOU SPENT PRAYING YOU COULD HAVE BEEN FIGURING OUT WAYS TO EXPOSE CROOKS ON WALL ST OR DEVELOP A WAY TO CURE YOUR IMPOTENCE/MICROPHALLUS CONDITION.

Fri, 05/11/2012 - 09:10 | 2416886 jus_lite_reading
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>>"What could I possibly be angry about?"<<

Obviously lots of things. Did a priest touch you when you were little and now you hate all religion? Are you so repulsive in every sense of the word that no girl ever gave you attention, therefore you fell in love with another boy? Has you unemployment money run out? Do you crave attention? You should seek help...

 

>>Maybe I should pray and the maladies that beset this country will vaporize like the pensions of the earnest proletariat?<<"

Yes, I told you to pray to your flying spaghetti monster. In a way I am glad to see the push for gay marriage and the push against religion. Why, you ask? Because if there is a God and I'm certain there is, then this God will certainly wipe the filth from the earth as he said he would once all this occurs. I'm certain, once America becomes totally secular, he'll do something and it will be big. We'll have to wait and see... If you're right, well then we'll both live our lives as is. If I'm right, your future is very bleak...

>>"If you believe in Christ then you are living in Medieval Europe SO GO FUCK A GNOME OR PUT ON A SUIT OF ARMOUR."<<

Oh, now I see the connection: believing in Jesus = Medieval Europe = suit of armour!! Thank you for clarifying. What have I been thinking all these years?!

>>"YOU HAVE SHIT INSTEAD OF A BRAIN AND SHOULD STUDY SOME FUCKING BIOLOGY. THE TIME YOU SPENT PRAYING YOU COULD HAVE BEEN FIGURING OUT WAYS TO EXPOSE CROOKS ON WALL ST OR DEVELOP A WAY TO CURE YOUR IMPOTENCE/MICROPHALLUS CONDITION."<<

Yada yada yada, a few more ad hominem attcks, yada, more bullshit not even worth responding to. 

Thanks for this great rebuttal. You've really enlightened me. 

 


 

Fri, 05/11/2012 - 12:48 | 2417790 LarryDavis
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 Because if there is a God and I'm certain there is, then this God will certainly wipe the filth from the earth as he said he would once all this occurs. I'm certain, once America becomes totally secular, he'll do something and it will be big. We'll have to wait and see... If you're right, well then we'll both live our lives as is. If I'm right, your future is very bleak

 

I CANT BELIEVE HOW FUCKING STUPID YOU ARE. THAT EXPOSITION EPITOMIZES EVERYTHING WRONG WITH RELIGION. ASSHOLES IMBICILES LIKE YOU ARE WAITING FOR GOD TO DO SOMETHING. KEEP FUCKING WAITING BUDDY. YOU WILL BE WAITING UNTIL YOUR COPRSE IS ROTTEN BECAUSE THERE IS NO GOD. YOU BOUGHT INTO A RELIGION STARTED THOUSANDS OF YEARS AGO BEFORE KNEW WHAT SPERM LOOKED LIKE. BAD NEWS: YOU ARENT GOING TO PLAY WITH YOUR PUPPY IN HEAVEN YOU PIECE OF SHIT. 

 

Because if there is a God and I'm certain there is, then this God will certainly wipe the filth from the earth as he said he would once all this occurs. I'm certain, once America becomes totally secular, he'll do something and it will be big. We'll have to wait and see... If you're right, well then we'll both live our lives as is. If I'm right, your future is very bleak

 

DID YOU REALLY WRITE THIS OR STEAL IT FROM BRANCH DIVIDIAN LITERATURE? WHAT A FUCKING PSYCHO LOSER.

Fri, 05/11/2012 - 14:46 | 2418172 jus_lite_reading
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Thank you. I have no intention of playing with my puppy in heaven, but I know you will sing a different tune on your deathbed as do all athesits when they face the end of their lives, just in case... you know... there "might" be a creator...

Somehow, I don't think that will save you...

 

 

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 14:31 | 2414088 Hohum
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Born Patriot,

You, of course, are part of a shrinking population against gay marriage.  But you're right, Ron Paul is a Christian.  Hell, he's a Creationist, isn't he?

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 14:56 | 2414183 LarryDavis
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FUCK THEM ALL. RELIGIOUS, POLITICAL, AND FINANCIAL EXPLOITATION ARE THE BANES/HALLMARK OF MODERN OPPRESSION. ALL PART OF THE SAME COMPLEX. RICH TAKING ADVANTAGE OF POOR AND LIVING LIKE BYZANTINES. 

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 17:11 | 2414705 Likstane
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I am having a hard time understanding this post.   Could you possibly take some more time and delineate some of the finer points, and then sum them up into one cogent statement?

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 20:13 | 2415536 LarryDavis
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You don't understand how religion exploits the lower classes? Had you heard of the crusades? Have you EVER READ A FUCKING HISTORY BOOK? Do you think that preventing stem cell research is good for society? How about no abortions? How about molesting alter boys? Where would the discussion of the cancerous nature of religion possibly end?  

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 17:30 | 2414799 Charles Bishop ...
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 DUKE! I like the way you GET MAD and STAY COGENT.

 I know you must piss a lot of people off, but the TRUTH is hard to take at 110 proof.

 and that last line?

"Living like Byzantines."

 Genius.

 Don't ever change.

 "See kids? THAT's how you shut down someone with more money than brains."

 

Fri, 05/11/2012 - 23:12 | 2419311 boiltherich
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Especially since the bible king james gave the modern world was actually mostly written by a prostitute in what is now Istanbul.  The emporer had the hots for a sexy stripper and they could see the political handwritting on the wall, so they made xtianity the state religion AFTER they rewrote the creed. 

Christianity is no more relevent or true than the bunny rabbits in Watership Down.  What you choose to believe is your business, but it has no place in government or any government supported entity like schools.  It sure as hell does not belong in our laws.  If you insist on using that abortion of a text to foist your hate and prejudices upon citizens like me then what you will have is war.  One day it could come to armed conflict, but for the time being I will settle for keying your car, and doing anything I can to cost or annoy you. 

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 11:26 | 2413246 wisefool
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Yup. This is the political class in D.C. protecting their monopoly on control. In this case, the tax code. But the well intended marriage and dependant deduction in the tax code are akin to roman aristocrats allowing the servants to eat the lightly chewed leftovers that the servants harvested, prepared, served and cleaned up.

Welcome to the machine all you same sex couples! From a purely statistical angle, this action might get the marriage rate above 50% again, since the previous tax code has failed in encouraging such behavior. But the tax code has succeed in paying for unconsitutional wars, 101% deficit spending, and a class of elites that pay lower taxes than the middle class, and G.E. employing more tax advoidance specialist than they employ nuclear technicians, engineers and researchers. Also, dont forget Trillions in ex-patriated dollars that can not be brought back to the US.

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 17:39 | 2414835 Charles Bishop ...
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Nothing 'foolish' about YOU, Wisefool. You're right.PS: You know what the cognoscenti REALLY call gays?

 "DINKS.'

 Double Income, No Kids. They're not gonna leave the "fruits' UNHARVESTED.

Just ANOTHER INCOME STREAM. like Everybody else. "equality" hasn't got anything to do with it.

 SUCKERS.  They just  fucked themselves; they should have kept the fancy vacations and the expensive clothes.

Now it's into the grinder right along with the straights.

 

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 11:10 | 2413205 Pooper Popper
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Bring your leather chaps its time for some bump and grind.

Just bend over and relax

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 11:31 | 2413281 trembo slice
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sounds like someone's a little bi-curious

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 11:52 | 2413397 10mm
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Ahhh,all that shit about tradition and values went bye bye long ago.Country was bought and paid for long ago.

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 11:58 | 2413430 Mattress Money
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Does male homesexuality disgust me, yes so does paying high gas prices, making 0 percent in saving and seeing hetersexual couple making out in public. But I feel a person is intitled to their free will. At long as they dont impose their freewill on me I'm ok. Religion is a bigger scam then fiat currency.

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 18:57 | 2415268 smiler03
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+199

I can only assume that your downvotes are because of "Religion is a bigger scam then fiat currency."

An awful lot of these allegedly intelligent ZHers believe in the christian fantasy. Such is the nature of US Citizenism.

PS Tyler, please delete my ID.

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 19:03 | 2415288 FeralSerf
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"Cause and effect" has preempted freewill.  A person is no longer "intitled" to their -- it never was theirs -- freewill.

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 12:51 | 2413671 JR
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Born Patriot, The traditional American culture is a roadblock to their Hollywood Culture, and who wants Hollywood Culture with its anything goes as long as it titillates lust and makes money. Not only is that not for me, but that is the recipe for the destruction of a great nation put on a foundation of justice and morality by its Founders.

S. J. Perelman is no authority on morality but he certainly knew Hollywood:

“A dreary industrial town controlled by hoodlums of enormous wealth, the ethical sense of a pack of jackals and taste so degraded that it befouled everything it touched.”

These will be the hoodlums writing checks for the re-election of a president who should never have been allowed to place his hand on the Bible.

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 11:08 | 2413192 GeneMarchbanks
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GoldManSex.

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 11:46 | 2413357 FilbertH
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It pleases me to see that after much political pressure, the president now agrees with Dick Cheney on the subject of gay marriage. Now can we get on to something more important like who
Beyonce' is sleeping with this week, or why there is only ten ounces of chips in a one pound bag. You know, important stuff.

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 18:59 | 2415277 smiler03
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Well said.

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 11:51 | 2413391 kralizec
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His boy Reggie?

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 12:04 | 2413468 Winston Churchill
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Newly christened as Obuggar.

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 15:19 | 2414286 capitallosses
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Maybe Larry is back in town.

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 11:09 | 2413197 EscapeKey
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Morals? I agree. As we see Wall Street systemically ripping off pension funds and manipulating the markets, selling toxic debt to widowers, as governments sell out our childrens future into poverty, it's homosexuals fault that society is collapsing.

Give me a fucking break.

 

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 11:15 | 2413226 bshirley1968
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Are you blind or just plain stupid?!

So bashing immorality in the equity and banking markets is okay, but sexual deviance is off limits?  They are one in the same for all you idiots out there.

Any "man" that will have "physical" relations with another man is capable of ........ANYTHING!!!!

When are you stupid people going to get that through your heads?

It's not funny, cute, entertaining, schick, etc. but rather disgusting and sickening!  It is a symptom of how low we have fallen in this immoral, godless society called America.

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 11:26 | 2413268 NuckingFuts
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I would like to believe that America is based on freedoms.  If you are against freedom perhaps you should move some where were the government tells you how to live every minute of your life.  As long as it fits with your 'morals' I am sure you would love it.  Perhaps we should begin a campaign to stone people to death who live a life style you find disgusting and sickening.

OK please respond by calling me names.  I am ready.

 

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 11:37 | 2413320 Deo vindice
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Your own name is all the name-calling I would ever do to you.

No need to say anything else.

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 11:30 | 2413279 EscapeKey
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What can I say - with the intellectual level displayed in your post, don't you think you should be elsewhere on the web, commenting on posts?

Like Youtube?

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 11:35 | 2413302 Dr. Engali
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Okay let me ask you a question mr. moral uprightness. I have a couple of freinds who happen to be a gay couple. They can't get married but they have been able to adopt a child. This boy came from a heterosexual home and his father was a drunk who beat him and his mom silly. So where is this boy better off? In a home where he gets beat to death or with two loving parents who happens to be male? And if it makes any differnce to your answer the boy is older now and has a crush on my daughter.

Another question...I'll make the assumption that you area pro life person. Wouldn't it be better if we had more couples who are willing to adopt and raise a child instead of that child being aborted? Which is the greater evil in your eyes?

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 11:41 | 2413336 Deo vindice
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Having a drunk father and a sodomite parent are not the only two options on the planet.

Really, is that the best argument you can put forth?

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 11:46 | 2413364 Dr. Engali
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Yes because all the other options are working so well. I for one would rather have the mother who just aborted her 6th child give the child a chance with a gay couple instead of having them tossed out with the trash....but maybe that works for you.

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 11:56 | 2413425 kralizec
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And they must have the official sanction of "marriage" for all you want to have to work, eh?  Why?

Why must that be forced upon a society that has clearly shown it does not want to give that official sanction?

Gays can go do whatever they want, but forced acceptance is all the militant gays are after, and well, if you're all for forcing people to accept things...well now, that leaves a lot of things that can be forced on people, now doesn't it?  Kinda wipes the pet protestations other people have right down the drain, don't it?

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 12:16 | 2413517 Idiot Savant
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It's not about having the official sanction of marriage; it's about having the rights that come with state sanctioned marriage. I've heard stories of partners together for twenty years who can't visit when the other is dying hospital because they're not a spouse or family member. Homosexuals deserve the same rights as heterosexuals; anything less is discrimination.

Please remember that there's supposed to be a clear separation of church and state in this country. Jesus, the divorce rate is 50% and you people talk about protecting the sanctity of marriage. How about you make divorce illegal? You're also the same people that claim to want less government intervention in your life. When did ZH fill up with right-wing fundies?

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 12:28 | 2413566 TMT
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So if it's "only about having the rights" then civil unions would suffice, right?

Personaly I could give a shit ... leave it up to the states.  This is a distraction issue to turn our heads away from the moribund economy.

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 12:43 | 2413636 kralizec
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Agreed.  This is a distraction, and one easily countered by Romney..."the President is against the majority of people on this issue, it's settled, lets move onto more important issues like unravelling all the socialist policies that have crippled our economy and left us with nothing but piles of debt".

As for the morbidly retarded position that gay marriage is a civil right is BS, as you correctly highlight in your opening comment.

But the militant gays and their supporters are not interested in civil unions with equal rights...forced acceptance of every aspect of their lifestyle is all they'll settle for.  If that proposition is allowed to stand...can't wait for the pedophiles, pederasts, necrophiliacs and beastiality folks to demand their civil rights too.

Then anything goes will really be anything goes and non-acceptance will be punished by the state.

Yippee.

/

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 17:10 | 2414698 DosZap
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 When did ZH fill up with right-wing fundies?

It DID?...................

Damn, coulda fooled me.

Sat, 05/12/2012 - 00:12 | 2419359 boiltherich
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That is just exactly the same argument used to deny those dirty niggers the vote in Louisiana.  If the white male heterosexual establishment demands the sole right to define what is and is not marriage then it would just not be worth having.  Unfortunately you dirty rotten fuckers decided to turn it into a government cash cow worth hundreds of billions per year in real money as goodies and tax dodges.  But unfortunately for you that is law and there is a little clause in the constitution that says all citizens will be treated equally under the law.

 

Am I a militant gay, fuck your bitch wife I am, I am not just militant I contribute cash money to candidates that stand up to closet cases like you. 

 

For the rest of you I have just got to ask, if you hate gays so much why do you keep making more of them every day?  And did you ever stop to think that your puerile attitudes about your own dirty little secrets of homosexuality that you work so hard to hide might not be damaging your own kids?  Some of you might have dodged a bullet by having only straight kids sure, but some of you have gay kids even if they will not come out to you because you are such assholes about it.  I know I heard more than enough jokes about Liberace and having to sit down to pee to last a lifetime from my male relatives, guess what, the same dudes that were making jokes about queers were also coming home late at night with cum on their breath and once I finally did come out to my family the ones that were so obnoxious about gay people never spoke to me again, not because I was a gay man but because they were so humiliated about the hate filled things they said. 

 

Go to CraigsList, look at man 4 man or casual encounters, half the ads there are posted by married men.  It is sad in my book that men want to sleep with other men but have to find a stupid bitch to marry by your laws to get the rewards of playing by the book, they are gay or they would not be advertising on CL for other men to have sex with, but the other side of the coin is that for every man that is married that has an ad at CL there are 20 that would have if they thought they would not get caught, and if there were NO "moral" punishments for being who you are half of all men would have at least tried it and that is a fact that we ALL take for granted except those with something to hide.

 

Last word is that you do not have to be gay, you do not have to be straight, you do not have to be anything you do not want to be, but when you presume to tell others what or who to be you beg for a fight you cannot win.

 

 

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 11:59 | 2413443 machinegear
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I'll bite.

 

Two wrongs don't make a right.

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 14:40 | 2414124 Iwanttoknow
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Dr Engali.i do'nt post much.I however enjoy your posts.Bravo.It is because of your kind,yhat i came to zerohedge.I'm a middle aged, hetersexual man with a coleege going son.

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 15:17 | 2414281 Deo vindice
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Hopefully your "coleege going son" (sic) can teach you to spell, you "hetersexual" (sic) man.

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 11:49 | 2413390 Buckaroo Banzai
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Anybody with any kind of moral center understands that homosexual activity is repellent. If it happens behind closed doors, well, what people do behind closed doors is their business. When it is celebrated in public, it becomes everybody's business and undermines the moral fabric of society and the integrity of the family unit.

Interestingly, the "other Tyler Durden" has been covering the Travolta story, which gives a good indication of how sick our society has become.

"The lawsuit filed yesterday by an unnamed male masseuse against John Travolta for sexual battery is full of gag-reflex testing details like in the headline, and that’s just a prelude to things like Travoltas opinion on the taste of cum and whether or not the masseuse would experience “the best fucking of his life” (spoiler alert: according to Travolta, yes).

Here’s a few, um, “highlights”?

- “(Travolta) lumbered to his feet and began to move towards Plaintiff with erect penis bouncing around with his stride.”
- “(Travolta) began screaming at Plantiff, telling Plantiff how selfish he was, that (Travolta) got where he is now due to sexual favors he had performed when he was in his ‘Welcome Back Kotter’ days; and that Hollywood is controlled by homosexual Jewish men who expect favors in return for sexual activity.”
- (He said) he had done things in his past that would make most people throw up.
- When he started he wasn’t even gay and that the taste of ‘cum’ would make him gag.
- He was smart enough to learn to enjoy it, and when he began to make millions of dollars, that it all became worth it.

I don’t mean to be a Monday morning quarterback, but telling a guy that he’ll probably find gay sex repulsive and it’s only worth it if it makes you famous and pays millions of dollars, is maybe not the best way to convince a guy to anonymously blow you for a few hundred"

http://www.wwtdd.com/2012/05/john-travolta-lumbered-to-his-feet-his-erec...

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 12:36 | 2413610 Cosimo de Medici
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Wow!  All that unnecessary detail on a financial website seems....obsessive.  Did you get titillated writing it?  Did you “embrace your inner demons”, if you know what I mean?

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 14:40 | 2414132 Count de Money
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Looks like you got titillated reading it.

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 15:03 | 2414216 Buckaroo Banzai
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Typical homosexual logic. If you don't support homosexuals, then you secretly must be a homosexual.

Let's try this. Do you find pedophilia repellent? Oh you do? Then you must secretly be a child molester.

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 20:05 | 2415520 Cosimo de Medici
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I believe we've just discovered the nom de plume of Ted Hagee on Zerohedge.

Are you going to write a salacious tome on that topic, too?  The authorities might want to check Buckaroo's hard drive.

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 12:50 | 2413665 LFMayor
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You better shape up
do woo woo
cause I neeeeed a maaaaan

that will keep me satisfied

And if you thought you had trouble watching "Grease" before now... think again, bitches!

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 13:28 | 2413797 LarryDavis
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If you aren't gay why does a man fucking another man gross you out? Honestly, I think you are a fucking fag stright up. A heterosexual man who destroys pussies of wax figure hot chicks like myself would not be bothered by fags banging or listening to grace jones at parties smelling like nitrates. Your getting grossed out by details of gay sex intimates that you would probably love getting banged in the ass. 

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 14:37 | 2414118 LFMayor
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only faggots and sailors are named Larry

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 15:02 | 2414218 LarryDavis
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Good one especially for someone with no dick.

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 14:21 | 2414040 blunderdog
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I don't see any connection between "moral center" and "repellent." 

Have you ever seen a fat guy eat lobster?

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 20:52 | 2415699 boiltherich
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Anybody with any kind of moral center understands that homosexual activity is repellent.

It is only repellent to you because you spend so much fucking time dwelling on what gay men do in bed with each other.  You are going to have to trust me here when I say nothing could be more repellent to many people including me to have to think about what you and your skank de jour are getting up with your genitals as well, so should I react badly and prevent you from enjoying equality under the law?  Should I beat you to death?  Should I make laws to criminalize your sexual tastes because I don't LIKE what YOU do? 

Anybody with any kind of moral center understands that homosexual activity is repellent.

It is only repellent to you because you spend so much fucking time dwelling on what gay men do in bed with each other.  You are going to have to trust me here when I say nothing could be more repellent to many people including me to have to think about what you and your skank de jour are getting up with your genitals as well, so should I react badly and prevent you from enjoying equality under the law?  Should I beat you to death?  Should I make laws to criminalize your sexual tastes because I don't LIKE what YOU do? 

No, you need to look deeper at your own motives for this nastiness that comes out of you every time you comment on the matter, because it is nastiness that is in YOU, not from outside of you, and I am sure when you do you will have to at last admit what a pathetic closet case you are.

No, you need to look deeper at your own motives for this nastiness that comes out of you every time you comment on the matter, because it is nastiness that is in YOU, not from outside of you, and I am sure when you do you will have to at last admit what a pathetic closet case you are.

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 11:52 | 2413396 DaveyJones
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"Any "man" that will have "physical" relations with another man is capable of ........ANYTHING!!!!"

please keep your fantasies out of this.

is there any data to support this? any? 

It's funny you call these people nothing less than freaks of nature when your actual hypothesis is the only thing that meets that category. 

This is nothing more than your opinion based ultimately on personal and religious grounds....the same grounds that our Constitution used to protect and leave at the personal level.  

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 12:55 | 2413684 LFMayor
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spot on.   It's all shit I don't care to know about.  You want to do wrong, not my place to stop you.  If you feel like doing risky things with and in your personal life, be my fucking guest, so long as I'm not footing the bill for your idiocy and the risks will eventually call the tab due with time.

Put it in my face and force me to get involved then you probably are not going to like my opinion on the matter.

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 11:59 | 2413433 10mm
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Lotta of swingers running around im sure,thats a big suburbia play ground.

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 12:18 | 2413522 MrButtoMcFarty
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Do you want a hug?

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 12:37 | 2413611 Cosimo de Medici
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I scoured the Help Wanted Section in the Bible, but I didn't see the ad for "Judges Wanted".

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 14:46 | 2414142 Count de Money
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Maybe you should have looked here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Judges

Fri, 05/11/2012 - 01:47 | 2416335 Deo vindice
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  I scoured the Help Wanted Section in the Bible, but I didn't see the ad for "Judges Wanted".

Maybe you should read this:

"Thou shalt not bear false witness".

IOW - I highly doubt you even cracked the cover of a Bible. But had you done so, you might have read.

"Judge righteous judgment". Oh, by the way that was Jesus who said that.

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 13:22 | 2413783 blunderdog
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    Any "man" that will have "physical" relations with another man is capable of ........ANYTHING!!!!

REALLY?  Holy shit! 

Let's just have them fix the economy!  I can't believe no one's figured this out before!

Fuck, they can feed the hungry and house the homeless too!  And cure cancer!  And create world peace!

Damn.  Now I'm almost feeling jealous of the faggots.

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 13:47 | 2413889 Jena
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No kidding.  Maybe that explains Superman.

 "...strange visitor from another planet who came to Earth with powers and abilities far beyond those of mortal men. Superman, who can change the course of mighty rivers, bend steel in his bare hands; and who, disguised as Clark Kent, mild-mannered reporter for a great metropolitan newspaper, fights a never ending battle for truth, justice, and the American way."

Mystery solved.

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 13:54 | 2413915 blunderdog
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So THAT'S why Clark never married Lois!

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 16:02 | 2414426 Jena
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Yeah.  Those tights, the cape, the boots, obsessive body building, the hair gel.  It all fits.

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 16:43 | 2414487 DaveyJones
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funny, but I'm confused

robin was from THIS planet but clearly had similar issues

he also invoked religion constantly. Must have been the reformed church

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQVfOguNWBw 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARoCpelSF70&feature=related

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 20:57 | 2415721 boiltherich
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Robin just had daddy issues, but really, nobody who watched that show ever questioned his sexuality, any viewer thinking he was straight was either blind or stupid. 

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 19:05 | 2415294 smiler03
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bishirley,

let me see, at the moment your votes are 18 up 32 down so about one third of Americans agree with you.

No fucking wonder your country is hated by most of the world. I don't hate your country at all though, just morons like you.

PS Tyler, for the love of fucking jesus fucking christ on a pizza will you please delete my godless immoral ID.

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 12:25 | 2413553 Gringo Viejo
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"Those that can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities."   Voltaire..............

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 20:59 | 2415733 boiltherich
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And anybody that believes the absurdity of christianity/bible is also guilty of atrocity. 

Fri, 05/11/2012 - 01:52 | 2416342 Deo vindice
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Aaahh. You can just feel the love oozing from the sodomite.

Mon, 05/14/2012 - 03:26 | 2422878 boiltherich
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Does it not just KILL you that the sodomite has the same fucking rights under the constitution as you do?  You are a sad small dick excuse for a man. 

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 11:01 | 2413169 Pladizow
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Corzine should be forced to "embrace" gay marriage, while in prison!

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 11:03 | 2413172 Silver Bug
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He was plummeting in the ratings. I wonder how long he has been waiting to whip this one out? This is all I am hearing on the news and radio now. People seem to forget that he has lived up to nothing he has said so far. He makes bush look tame. Sad how easily people are distracted from the main show.

 

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