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Guest Post: Obama Embraces Gay Marriage
Submitted by John Azis of Azizonomics
Obama Embraces Gay Marriage
Obama and Corzine — A Match Made in Heaven?
Unlike virtually every mainstream media commentator or political talking head I don’t care about Obama embracing gay marriage.
Now I know that a lot of people on the left — disappointed by his banker-friendly, PATRIOT Act-renewing, indefinite-detention-enabling, American-citizen-assassinating regime — are searching for any reason to vote for him, and plausible reason to defend his record. That’s the nature of tribal politics — “anti-war” Democrats will happily protest the Bush war machine, but they seem quiet when Obama is the one using drone strikes to assassinate American citizens without trial. I don’t like Mitt Romney either, but that’s not the point.
Even for those in favour of gay marriage, let’s not forget that Obama is capable of doing absolutely zero to change the law. Want to introduce a law allowing homosexual couples to marry? Good luck getting it through the Republican Congress.
I’m in favour of consenting adults being able to do whatever they like with each other, but the fact that the current push for gay marriage is supported by Lloyd Blankfein and Goldman Sachs makes me very suspicious (does he want to sell securitised gay marriage debt?).
It just seems like an easy issue for Obama to posture on, while trampling the Constitution into the dirt.
When it comes to civil liberties, Obama has always talked a good game, and then acted more authoritarian than Bush. He talked about an end to the abuses of the Bush years and an open and transparent government, yet extended the Fourth-Amendment-shredding Patriot Act, empowered the TSA to produce naked body scans and engage in humiliatingly sexual pat-downs, signed indefinite detention of American citizens into law, claimed and exercised the power to assassinate American citizens without trial, and aggressively prosecuted whistleblowers. Under his watch the U.S. army even produced a document planning for the reeducation of political activists in internment camps. Reeducation camps? In America? And some on the left are still crowing that talking about being in favour of gay marriage makes him “pro civil liberties”? Is this a joke?
Here are a few metrics that we should be judging Obama on:
People not in the labour force is spiking:
The public debt keeps soaring and soaring from eyeball-watering multi-trillion dollar deficits:
Meanwhile India, Iran, China, Russia, Saudi Arabia and Japan have all ditched the dollar for other currencies in new bilateral trade agreements — which lest us forget is America’s biggest export, and the product that keeps goods and oil flowing into America. This is an extremely dangerous time. While we cannot lump Obama with the blame for the entire U.S. economic system — the system we have was accumulated via Bush, and Cheney, and Paulson, and Clinton, and Bush, and Reagan, and Carter, and Brzezinski, and Nixon, and Kissinger, and Johnson, and Roosevelt and Wilson and Lincoln and probably most significantly of all the father of central banking Alexander Hamilton — Obama certainly has not improved matters.
And it should be obvious to anyone paying attention that Romney — who claims he would support the NDAA and the PATRIOT Act, that he wants to attack Iran, and has hired many ex-Bush staffers, as well as winning the endorsement of both Jeb and George H.W. Bush, and bizarrely claiming to want to start a trade war with China — is cut from the exact same cloth as Bush and Obama.
This is a dead election. Here’s hoping that Ron Paul — who continues to pick up delegates in the Republican race even while being ignored by the mainstream media who would rather talk about Obama’s posturing on gay rights — can cause some mayhem.
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Obama is on the down low. But usa newspapers wont touch the story. Michelle keeps him on a short leash cuz she knows he has the urge.
Barry O'Homo says he has 'Evolved' on this issue- IS HE WALKING UPRIGHT, YET?
Or is he still bent over from his days at Chicago's Man's Country?
Of course. But dividing and conquering the American people using social issues is politicians' favorite game plan.
The question is, where do they want to take us? IMO, a NWO of sorts...
They don't always have a grand plan, usually the slimy fuckers are just trying to get re-elected at any cost.
There may not be a "grand plan", but there is definitely a script. People like the Fabians and the Cultural Marxists worked it out back in the early 20th century, and the Rockefellers (amongst many others behind the scenes) ran with it. They work by subverting the culture and the educational system, and their funding comes from the big charitable foundations like the Ford foundation and Rockefeller foundation.
It's been pulled off in the "British Empire" once before,yes.
Yep.. the stupid jerkoff PTB wants to divide & conquer Americans over:
- gay marriage
- abortion rights
- illegal immigration
- stem cell research,
blah blah blah over secondary issues, but not at all about:
- Why we shouldn't invade Iran,
- how do we stop spending so much money and blowing up our debt
- how do we protect our currency
- when do we become a nation that keeps to ourselves again, almost isolationist, etc.
+1
I agree with you about the divide and conquer and this post/thread has proved it so well. The sad thing is is that the not very well educated Americans and the well educated religious Americans will vote for their next President on such ridiculously stupid issues like gay marriage.
I'd be very curious to know how the voting probabilities of non-religious American are affected by the gay marriage issue.
But really, don't heterosexual American marriages show that the solidity of marriage is a fantasy? Instead of sticking to their own marriage vows, most probably in a religious way, they get divorced. As a consequence, and worst of all, the children of divorced heterosexuals end up being raised in a way that suggests that marriage suck. Meanwhile, those gay married neighbours earn more than the heteros, pay taxes, incur less medical bills and don't want to murder their neighbours.
PS. Oi! Tyler! You support the Greek bailout and I don't. You must therefore delete my ID.
Of course. But dividing and conquering the American people using social issues is politicians' favorite game plan.
This basically guaranteed him a loss in 2012.........................I thought he was more intelligent than this.
Biden?, no dumb as a STUMP.
Henry Chinaski
There is no gain from this. What little support he regains, face it the man has been dwindling, he loses from minorities and the bible believers.
Then again they do need to stage manage this election to make Romneys victory look like a nail biter.
"There is no gain from this. What little support he regains, face it the man has been dwindling, he loses from minorities and the bible believers."
I disagree.
He has TONS to gain from this, that being the largely-gay mainstream media's support, and Millions of dollars in Hollywood money.
1-in-6 of Obama's big-money bundlers ARE GAY. 50%+ of 'Hollywood" is gay. 50% of today's mainstream media is gay.
50% of today's media is gay? Really? I didn't see the survey, can you give me a link, or a reference. Thanks.
Does President Obama gain from this? Who knows? He sure as heck calculated that he will.
"1-in-6 of Obama's big-money bundlers ARE GAY. 50%+ of 'Hollywood" is gay. 50% of today's mainstream media is gay."
Yet another fucking moron. You forgot to declare your belief in heaven.
edit: Tyler please delete my ID for the sake of my health. Morons like this make me hate Americans.
You are going to meet God one day; more specifically, His representative Jesus Christ. If you don't repent of your evilness, you will be weeping and gnashing your teeth in the utter blackness of hell for eternity.
I should hope that if were a god as described in your moronic bible that I do indeed go to hell because that crazy cocksucker you think rules the universe is a psychotic mother fucker and I want NOTHING to do with him or his kingdom.
You are going to get a chance to say that again one day.
You are the most pathetic troll on this website. I would so much prefer to settle the matter personally, shall I come to your wife-mothers house in Utah and we can duke it out?
Luke 23.34
I 'm sorry, Gully--I just don't see ANY scenario short of a no-show by Obama, that gives Mittens Romney the win. Hell, Even RP would take him to the carpet if through some ridiculous chain of unforseeen,miraculous circumstances he wound up mano a mano with Mittens. ...And he's eighty, nuts and has no DAMN chance. The only thing Romney has going for him, is the fact that he's a wealthy white man.Maybe he should run for the Presidency of Mexico--that way he'll at least get INVITED to the White House.
State visits, doncha know.
WHAT? He was BORN there. He's eligible. And he can grow one of those cool pencil-thin mustaches, and his hair-do is ALREADY 'cholo-ready'.....
LOL.
You're an idiot. Take care of character and the economy will take care of itself. Our economy is a product of a character that says EVERYTHING is okay and ANYTHING goes. Homosexuality is the last rung of the ladder on the road to anything goes. Wake the hell up, dummy!
Nope, the last rung of the ladder is pedophilia. Engaging in pedophilia is required behavior to join the hidden power elite, it's like their version of a gang initiation-- the threat of exposure keeps everyone in line, and of course, satisfies the appetites of their deranged souls. Their eventual goal is to make it legal, then palatable, and then accepted-- exactly as they have done with homosexuality.
Didn't they just legalize watching child porn online in the state of New York?
Damn..maybe you ARE Buckaroo Banzai. Your inside intelligence seems a little too complete to be laughed off.
PS: What's up with Perfect Tommy? He seems a little TOO 'perfect."
"Homosexuality is the last rung of the ladder on the road to anything goes."
Oh yeah, Goldman Sachs, the ECB, HIV, COMEX, they're all insignificant compared to a 1 in a 10,000 gay marriages.
ASSHOLE
PS Tyler will you please give me Charles Bishop'S address so I can send him the number of innocent women, children and men killed by his government in the last twenty years. Never mind the innocent, the US military says "anything goes" but they call it "collateral damage".
PPS Please delete my ID incase I ever meet Charles and try and punch his fucking lights out, for good.
You are both wrong, the last rung of social disintegration is idiots like you.
"Homosexuality is the last rung of the ladder on the road to anything goes."
Funny, I thought Citizens United was the last rung?
You are falling for the oldest trick in the book. Divide, divert and conquer them with their individual prejudices, racial preference and religious beliefs
You said it! This is nothing but more smoke for Obumbos mirrors...
While the sheeple were watching Amerukun Idol... the NDAA was passed.
While the sheeple were watching Jersey Whore... the Chinese were given full rights to set up an "economic zone" of 200 acres in Michigan, where they have total control.
While the sheeple were watching Kim Kardashian's failed wedding farce... a new NAFTA treaty was signed into law by Obumbo and his ass clowns (AIPAC) along with at least a DOZEN EXECUTIVE ORDERS to cut your "rights" into paper shredding...
While the sheeple were waiting for the "ongoing economic recovery" collecting welfare and gubmint assistance... the DHS purchased 450million+ rounds of hollow tips and 30 million "FEMA coffins" (supposedly for a major natural disaster) but are really for "massive civil unrest" they are not only expecting but also pushing for...
Trigger happy little bitches taking away what it means to be American.. can't even have your kids sell fucking lemonade without getting put on the domestic terrorist list!!
YET viewing CHILD PORN IS NOT A CRIME IN NY?! WTF?!?! HOW SICK HAS THIS WORLD GOTTEN!!!!
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/viewing-child-pornography-not-crime-according-york-court-165025919.html
I CALL ON THE FOUNDING FATHERS TO COME BACK AND SAVE US!!!!!!!!!! BENJAMIN FRANKLIN!! HELP!!! THOMAS JEFFERSON!! HELP!!!!
Blankfein and ObaMao are SO gay...lol!
WRONG!
The economy is the side show. The main event is the destruction of humanity through the teachings of immortality (there is no right or wrong, Killing babies is a choice, Men fucking each other up the ass is normal behavior..war is good, We will teach your children that a transgender "life style" is a healthy "choice". We will teach your children that they are evil and wrong if they find the thought of two men kissing abnormal. We will promote every bizarre, unhealthy and depraved action as being perfectly normal and acceptable) ...along with the promotion of government as the ultimate authority (you will give your children vaccines that have been shown in one scientific study after another to cause autism, infertility and cancer, You will eat GMOs in the foods and our FDA will prevent manufactures from listing them on the label so you can't determine what you're feeding your children. We will put chemicals in the water supply which negatively effect your brain function so you are unable to think clearly and comprehend what we are doing to you, We will give you a gay black president with absolutely zero documented history and you will love him)
The economy is not the main event!
Hey passwords I believe you misunderstood his point... the economy is the sideshow for the imbecile sheep and politicians while they publish bullshit headlines to make the economic problems seem like a sideshow!! The few of us who know, know the economy is still the priority
yes, the smartest counter would be to not play the game and call it out for the diversion it is, but he is hoping they fall for it. And they probably will
Congratulations to Dr. Cate Jenkins for the court reinstating her job at the EPA.
Dr. Jenkins valiantly fought the criminal Bush administration, then the criminal Obama administration, on behalf of American workers at Ground Zero.
America is eternally grateful for the few honest and honorable Americans like Dr. Jenkins.
(Reminds one of how they fired all those teachers at the school in Chicago --- mostly Black-Americans --- and President Obama went on national television to applaud that vile decision, which was later overturned by an honest judge as wrongful termination and their jobs were reinstated.)
In the latest news, Obama’s former chief of staff, Rahm Emanuel, now mayor of Chicago, has denied the constitutional right to assemble to the nurse’s union, National Nurses United.
Meanwhile, President Obama has taken time off from his War on Whistleblowers to talk about gay stuff…..
Sources:
http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2012/05/07-4
http://www.scribd.com/doc/45058200/Jenkins-031102-Asbestos-Status-WTC
Three words guest: Leave me alone. Just leave me alone.
You, sir, are a dangerous anarchist and will need to be educated in cell block C.
They will have "special" education for ZH'ers
I read yesterday where Dr Laura apparently said that Tom Cruise and John Travolta were gay.
yes, but not in the same movie...
TheCanimal
"I read yesterday where Dr Laura apparently said that Tom Cruise and John Travolta were gay."
http://www.southparkstudios.com/full-episodes/s09e12-trapped-in-the-closet
Trapped in the Closet (Season 9, Episode 12R. Kelly: [singing] Man, this is some crazy shit here. Why won't you both just come out the closet, they said?
Tom Cruise, John Travolta: [singing] We're not coming out the closet. You can just go away.
R. Kelly: [singing] But everyone wants you out the closet.
Tom Cruise, John Travolta: [singing] That doesn't matter 'cause we're gonna stay.
R. Kelly: [singing] Now I'm startin' to get angry, so I pull out my gun!
[as soon as R. Kelly pulls out his gun, everyone standing outside Stan's room runs away]
R. Kelly: [singing] I'm gonna give you a count to three to open this closet door, one - I'm gonna shoot you both, two - I'm gonna cap some bitch, three...
[closet door opens. With gun facing forward, R. Kelly slowly approaches the door and enters the closet. The closet door shuts]
R. Kelly: [singing] Now I'm in the closet. Now I'm in the closet too.
http://www.tmz.com/2012/05/07/john-travolta-sued-masseur-sexual-assault-...
John TravoltaSued By Masseur
He Touched My Penis ...
The suit claims Travolta stripped naked, appearing semi-erect. The masseur says he told Travolta to lay down on the table and the first hour went without incident. Then, according to legal docs, Travolta began rubbing the masseur's leg, touched his scrotum and the shaft of his penis.
The masseur claims he told Travolta he did not have sex with his clients, but Travolta was undeterred, offering to do a "reverse massage," adding, "Come on dude, I'll jerk you off!!!"
The suit goes on to allege Travolta then masturbated and told the masseur he got to where he was "due to sexual favors he had performed when he was in his 'Welcome Back Kotter' days," adding "Hollywood is controlled by homosexual Jewish men who expect favors in return for sexual activity." http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/gossip/le-et-mg-john-travolta-sexua... John Travolta accused by second man in sexual-battery lawsuit
Oh noo,not Vinnie Barbarino.What,Where,Why.
Together? That's Hot!
Best headline / picture ever.
I like this one - http://maxkeiser.com/2012/05/10/misdirection/
http://www.deflationeconomy.com/obama-gay-sex-and-drug.html
http://cryandhowl.com/2012/01/30/barack-obama-will-have-to-respond-to-ga...
So, the US may have elected a very Special President with a catalogue of "Firsts" for the Office beyond the one they all swooned about...who knows ?
powerful Catholic add:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9vQt6IXXaM
So he's trying to gain more votes from misc groups and divert from the main issues since he knows his economic policies have been a disaster.
Just think how much all the gay weddings/divorces will add to the GDP.
And not only that, they will all be fabulous!
flowers, food, wardrobe - even the best man's speech
Hard to see how the bankers will profit off gay marriages and divorces, but the LAWYERS will do just fine, thank you very much! You can't get a nasty divorce until you are actually married....
Huh? So if they don't have a ceremony all their coin stays in their pocket unspent? Or, better yet they don't rack up debt to fund their "celebration" that they later might default on which ends up screwing the rest of us?
Might want to think that one again...
Correction: Obama Re-Arranges Himself Into A Pink Deck Chair.
Nonetheless, look for Goldman to try and exploit this as a tax-free wealth transfer ploy:
1. Revert back to a private partnership
2. All partners are partners for life and must marry each other
3. When a partner dies, a newly made partner marries the deceased partner’s widowed partner.
4. Repeat and minimal wealth is surrendered to the government.
Look at that gleam in Corzine's eyes Michelle...and then get yourself a good lawyer.
This is, in fact, why most fuedalistic/dynastic/aristocratic families are inbread retards, going back to ancient times. But we keep putting them in charge anyway.
So, you’re are virgin sophomore?
I don't want to get into the whole birds/bees thing online with someone who may be a minor but no, this system would be separate from the procreative sex lives of the partners themselves…unless some of the partners were female and even then:
A) Abbey Joseph Cohen’s best breeding years are behind her plus
B) There are already laws on the books about marrying close family
This would be strictly a man-love-money thing.
Of course not (underaged or inexperienced). My point, as re-enforced by other posts in this thread is that state sponsored/sanctioned marriage was reserved for the elites to expand weath and power.
And just like all ponzi schemes, they "granted" the privledge to peasants 'cause the churches were making all the money off family formation. My response to you was in agreement with your sentiment that corporatism/tax law has always been this way, with the snarc that that GS crew are retarded.
Yepper, this is what we will hear about all summer to keep the voters divided. Easier for big government to pick their pockets that way.
Now he can dump Michelle for his "man" Barney Fag.
It makes for a good distraction. Everybody is talking about gay marriage instead of how they are being screwed up the ass by the government and the fed. Never mind those Fema camps ..Obummer supports gay marriage. He must be a great liberator.
+1
I think given the results in North Carolina on the gay marriage referendum (overwhelmingly defeated), this was a calculated move by Obama to embrace the gay constituency before the Democrat convention in Charlotte. Perhaps he figured he could afford to piss off the black and Hispanic conservative voters who will still vote for him (but will likely still show up at the polls) but he needed the gay constituency to pull out their wallets -- and not join the protests.
Whether it will lead to any real action is doubtful. Hey, he 'made history' and that's playing well in some places.
And I don't care, either. Social issues mean less and less to me as time goes on. Economic issues are the only things that matter.
Exactly. This tabloid shit needs to go away before it takes hold. +1 for sanity.
Social issues and economic issues are ultimately interrelated.
Yep, creating different government-defined "classes" of people is market interference.
Basically, it's economic interference for the government to make decisions about who can and can't marry because of the financial considerations.
But social conservatives don't usually care much about market interference--it's perfectly OK to interfere in the market when it helps reinforce traditional behaviors. See also abortion, for example.
Tried to give ya a greenie but it didn't work. Someone posted a few days ago the reason is the italic print unless it is in parenthes (sp) Milestones
Sorry, i meant "quotes" Milestones
Obama planned to announce his Gay Marriage support in North Carolina Tuesday night, celebrating the the passage of the law that MSNBC and DailyKos were telling Obama was certain.
OOPS....
Obama canceled over the weekend, when they realized it was going to get STOMPED by the voters.
Great charts, what are they doing in a gay marriage thread. If you want to talk about Obama and gay marriage then you should do that, otherwise pick another thread title.
Since the thread title IS gay marriage my stand is, whatever. Personally I think gays have the best of both worlds. " I'm sorry honey, I'd marry you but it's illegal"... ;)
+1
This post was from a 24 year old British man. His headline on the post was fuck all to do with most of his post. He also thinks that the UK military should control street riots, sounds like a military state to me, sort of like North Korea.
Personally I think he is a pre-pubescent public schoolboy. He has almost certainly never even been to Manchester or Birmingham.
He's a dickhead, probably has a very rich mummy and daddy.
PS Tyler, please delete my ID, aziz is a fucking schoolboy who should really be eating his parents.
Lets distract the simpletons with controversial sexy subjects as the economy burns.
Ah. So George Washington was a "simpleton". Ok.
"...the Commander in Chief approves the sentence and with abhorrence and detestation of such infamous crimes... Enslin to be drummed out of camp tomorrow morning by all the drummers and fifers in the Army never to return." - March 14th, 1778
Ol'woodteeth should have just paid attention to all that English taxation going on and ignored the homo's around, right?
Our first President did in fact have some serious self-esteem issues stemming from his lack of a formal education...
I have already voted for Ron Paul.
You know that your country is about to collapse when the founding fathers would be considered "domestic terrorists" if they came back!!
I VOTE FOR RON... despite knowing TPTB will do everything to prevent him from getting anywhere nears the seat!!
Voting for Romney or Obuombo is voting for more of the same and supporting everything that is wrong with America... god help us!!
This is why my PhD, north-eastern liberal, professor wife will not be voting for this man.
Whatever gets him elected right?
You have to question the motives of a "man" that says he is okay with another man getting on his knees and sucking the cock of another man for "sexual pleasure".
Really? That is what you are "proud" of and march in parades for? The whole basis of your life is that you are a, cocksucker? Boy what a life accomplishment. If I were you, I would want to march around and tell all my friends that my desire in life is to suck some other man's dick or take it up the ass.
I know that language is disgusting to most of you here and I hate to have to use it but it is time we wake up and see it for what it is......unnatural, deviant, backwards, perverse, and sick. I am sick of hearing about it and to think that it is an "issue" in the Presidential election of this once great nation is a constant reminder of how far we have fallen. No matter the motives of this punk in the White House I could not and will not EVER support ANYONE who says that these freaks are somehow okay ........married or not.
Wow, hate much?
If you don't like homosexual acts, then don't do them. The true crime is that you think you have the right to tell someone else how to live their life when it has nothing to do with you.
+1 at the moment 10+ 2-
People in America are very intolerant. Perhaps that's why the popular vote is for bombing the fuck out of brown people..
Religion might be part of the reason /sarcastic about raging american christian bigots </end fucking sarcastic>
Reminder +1, I agree with your post completely
PS Tyler, please delete me before I lose the will to make the next underpant bomb.
How can you people be so damn ignorant. To give homo's validation is the equivilant of saying 2+2 =5. I don't give a rat's ass what they do with their deviant lives, just keep it to themselves. Don't teach that bs in schools, don't demand special privileges, and don't hold a parade just because you're a cocksucker. If I were to go into an elementary school and tell the kids 2+2=5, I would rightly be fired. But somehow we are to look the other way as we tell school kids that it is perfectly normal for a man to do unnatural acts with another man. Somehow this subject becomes way to overblown when someone tells the truth about unnatural freaks, but its quite okay for those same unnatural freaks to parade, demand special rights, seek to get laws passed making it illegal to call them unnatural freaks, etc.
Its okay for a cocksucker to come on here and call me a "breeder" (which he wouldn't be here if it hadn't been for a breeder) but for me to call him a cocksucker is somehow not okay. His whole life is defined by being a cocksucker. My life with my wife is about way more than our sex life. We are not defined by our sexuality like cocksuckers are. Marriage is about much more than ........sex. And for all of you that don't understand that, it just reveals the twisted thought process that has developed in our society because these perverts want to be treated as normal. Where do we draw the line? Pedophiles, beastyality, incest? When do we cross a line of what is wrong?
Let me stress for you once again, if you want to suck some dick, by all means knock yourself out. Just don't brag to me about it. Go live your life and keep things that were meant to be private......private. But damn sure don't ask me to validate your deviant lifestyle.
You haters are all the same. Whether it's hating another's race, sex, sexuality, religion, it doesn't matter. You can make basically your same argument about lifestyle, deviant freaks, etc. and just replace it with another group to hate.
I could go through and refute what you say point by point, but for what? You're probably so blinded by your hate that what I say won't even register properly.
The fact is that it is wrong to tell someone that they will never have the chance to legally show their commitment of love with another person in their lifetime.
Just a suggestion, NOW is the time to come out of the closet.
All this anger and hostility will fall away once you embrace your true self.
Good luck and let us know when you found that special MR.bshirley1968. He will be such a lucky man.
Shirley you can't be serious. If it bothers you that much, you're thinking far too hard about it. Maybe turn off the television, or a switch to decaf?
science has proven those with excessive and obsessive aversions to homosexuality are fearful of being homosexual themselves. Set yourself free and come out!
Without proof I doubt your assertion.
I think though that there must be an awful lot of christians who are too scared to openly doubt the brainwashing that they've had since birth. They must think it's better to be open about their beliefs "just in case" they're wrong.
In my opinion it's a pathetic way to live. I made my own mind up about christianity when I was 6 years old. I was singing hymns in school and was very confused. I didn't believe what I was being told. From about 8 years old I was fascinated by "science". I've never looked back. I tolerate people being religious but I detest religious people forcing their opinions on the young. It's disgusting.
If people don't hurt other people, let them live without hindrance.
If people want to enforce their opinions on others, then that is indecent. Isn't the US supposed to be "The Land Of The Free"?
PS Tyler, please delete me before I call all "Christian" "Americans" the shit of the Earth, for that is what they are.
ALL homophobia is just closeted men trying to defend losing out on what they always wanted but never went for.
you've definitely giving cocksucking a lot of thought
well well well.....
it exists. I didn't read it (yet).
here's a download link: http://constitution.org/abus/intern/USArmy-InternmentResettlement.pdf
there's also a .mil download link but I'm not going there, my browser tells me it's "untrusted" (no kidding!).
here's the .mil link as well; https://armypubs.us.army.mil/doctrine/DR_pubs/dr_d/pdf/fm3_39x40.pdf
Just goes to show that Alex Jones isn't completely off base and without cause. The arrogance of these SOB's is astounding. They had better catch me away from the farm if they intend a painless R/I.
Obama is ok with a guy sucking a dick as long as he can tap ur phone email and other private communications without a warrant and keep a file on you.
Hurray for freedom! Our dear leader will lead us to the promised land!
Same old tried and true issues for stupid sheeple diversion trotted out every time....abortion....gay mariage....blah blah someone wake me when the first nuke goes off.
You had better wake up, SHeepboy. This issue is like seeing dark spots on the body, dramatic loss of weight, loss of pigmentation, weakness, no appetite, etc., the end is very, very near.
As this cancer of society spreads the end is ever nearer.
You marvel at the lack of morals among the financial and economic elite? They are the same group that says this bassackwards activity is "okay". If they "okay" that, then anything goes. If that is okay, what the hell isn't? You yawn at this, then pay no attention to anything that goes on in the world around you.
Don't forget to get your partner to stick a strap-on dildo up you. You never know, it might burst your huge bubble of belief and give you some relief.
PS Tyler, please just send this bshirley idiot a +1 because I cannot do it. He/she is the most enlightened person on ZH.
I have a friend in NYS Tax and Finance. Last summer when SSM was passed, an internal email 2 months later reminded department state workers not to discuss the economic impact with the media, because it was negligible.
Same old tried and true issues for stupid sheeple diversion trotted out every time....abortion....gay mariage....blah blah
Quite a foolish statement. I am sure you did so in jest. It is disappointing that fiscal conservatives look down on social conservatives when both cannot exist in harmony without the other. Just try to have a sound economy with immoral leaders... just try.
That's why I refer to HIM as O BlahBlah. Milestones
I'll do ANYTHING to be re-elected...
Regardless of personal points of view, I believe this will come back to bite him in the ass in November. Epic fail..............
The presidential reality show:
http://maxkeiser.com/2012/05/10/misdirection/
Yeah but does he support Gay divorce, the real important things are always left out!!
If you vote for Obama you are voting for Lloyd Blankfein and company to be president.
Obama's confession seemed rehearsed, and if Aziz is right and Goldman sachs leadership is run by gay marriage supporters, then this rehearsed confession on Obama's part makes even more sense.
According to an article called 'The Bearding of Barak Obama', three of the guys Obama had sex with before he was elected turned up dead (execution style bullets to the back of the head), and two of them were killed 40 days apart and one of them was murdered right before the 2007 Iowa Caucus.
This article was posted on Counterpunch.org
If you do a search for that article you might not find it right away. I've noticed they are cleaning the engines a bit more these days....It's getting harder to find info from the Search engines.
In the end they are all banker fags.
Those two can definately go fuck themselves
State sanctioned marriage has always been about money and power. The hero of all politicians is augustus ceasar who bought his "wife" from the man she was already married to, based on the fact that she had proven fertility and do the first lady stuff.
snarc: It would be unfair to miss out on a generation of GBLT politicians 'cause they could not have force multiplier that a spouse can be in backstabbing aristocratic circles. Hillary-Bill Clinton, John-Elizabeth Edwards, Teresa-John Kerry, Arnold swartzenegger-maria shriver. David gregory and his wife who is an executive for Fannie. And the #1 conservative marriage/MIC man Newt "I cheated and divorced my wives because I loved my country too much" Gingrich. Nancy pelosi and her hubby.
Circus, until they start messing with the tax code, and gay couples demand tax refunds from all the years they were not allowed to file jointly.
I think you forgot Obama's ramping up the war on drugs which is far more deadly than the drugs themselves. It enriches the corrupt criminal element while transferring wealth to privatized prisons and law enforcement.
At least Gay people can now get married and have sex on the way to the concen.... sorry fema camps...... whats with all this negativity!
When homosexuals go to prison they can have sex with their preferred gender counterparty. Heterosexuals are not permitted the same freedom. "Equal protection under the law"? I think not.
Hope and Change for Muppet Sex.
Ugh.
obama is a murdering nazi.....
www.obamacrimes.com
He's an American President, look at how many people have been killed by American armed forces.
He's a murderer, you don't need to call him a nazi as well.
American citizensim = murder
You should check out Tony's corpus here if you're not familiar. I enjoy seeing you two in such clear agreement on something.
You may get an insight into why our national elections play out the way they do. When you've only got two parties, they can "win a vote" with only one issue. There's no chance at all a majority of adult human beings could be happy with all the positions of either of them.
Should he be required to Demonstrate his support?
The clown will do or say anything to get votes and money. Not surprised the Jewish Sewer at Goldman Sachs in favor of peversion, so long as they can make money, they too will do or say anything.
Don't care who marries who but I do think that traditional marriage is between a man or a woman and if they want civil unions and they stop pushing this peversion down my fuckin throat as normal behavior, let them do as they please.
I thought he was already Pro Gay when he let Corzine fuck everyone in the Ass
Well said!
My support for the President
"My support for the President is still evolving. In his favor though: Most other Presidents who were unlucky enough to have a recession only managed to recover from it once. Barack Obama is coming up on his third Recovery Summer. Heck, if he's reelected we could be looking at 7 Recovery Summers in a row."
http://arewelumberjacks.blogspot.it/2012/05/my-support-for-president.html
People keep waiting for an "emergency."
I would say it already happened in 2008. We are just living through it in slow motion.
The short of it is NOBODY is coming to put out the fire you have been watching from your living room window getting closer to your home.
Sure. You pick up the phone and call 911. You alert your family. You even step outside and talk to your neighbors; "Hey. You see that big fire down the block. Its was two blocks away an hour ago, but nobody has come to put it out."
Again, you say this while picking up your garden hose.
Where do you keep those family photos?
The FACT that the original S&L crisis of 1990-91 had nominal losses of $100 billion, yet led to the prosecution of thousands of crooked bankers, appraisers, brokers is amazing. Yet the current "Crisis" is judged to be 70 times as great in losses - $7 trillion, but this time the OTS has rendered ZERO prosecutions. Where is JUSTICE in all of this? Where is the OCC, DOJ, FBI?
Oh yes. The FBI is reading your emails, creating fake terror events and making sure the DHS/TSA can molest your children. The FBI/DHS/TSA is your STASI - protecting the banks in our descent into fascism.
Justice has left the building.
We are in for hard times. Remember that as this so-called election is framed in terms of "wants gay-marriage" and NOT the most awesome criminal transfer of wealth in human history.
Good luck to everybody.
A Faggot Nation that thiks is very normal when someone takes it up the rectum, an alien born negro President that is a closet muslin, Printing Money like confetti, 40 Million in food stamps, A police state, ..Jewish control in all sector of the govement, media, bankng, and courts, .What I'm I missing in this modern day sodom and gomorrah ? What ?
A big brown dick in your mouth.
What I'm I missing in this modern day sodom and gomorrah ?
A brain?
I support freedom and people being allowed to do whatever they want that doesn't steal from or hurt others. Obama has not shown much evidence of supporting this, so now him suddenly being in favour of more freedom smells like a strategic move. If he were in favour of gay marriage, he would have said so before back when it took balls to say so. History has looked favorably on people who were ahead of the curve and had the guts to stand out for their convictions. Obama is no John Brown on the Gay Marriage issue, he's just getting in front of a parade IMHO.
Can't we just all agree to save the gay people from the horrors of marriage (divorce)?
He likes dick too so I'm not suprised.
Colon Comrade.
Word around the Chicago bathhouses is that he likes to orally service older white gentlemen.
You are again projecting your own fantasy upon others and it is just so obvious, you could quit now and spare yourself further embarrassment. Lot of breeder types sounding really desperate around ZH today. Way more desperate than the situation calls for.
By the way, someone please explain why anal intercourse between two men is abnormal but it is fine when a guy fucks his girlfriends/wifes ass please. Do chicks have some sort of special bleach they wash their guts out with? Martha Stewart selling Anal White now? I know enough about female anatomy to be certain that most of them stink just as bad down there as any guy I ever knew, get over it.
A key target of the would-be rulers of the world has been to achieve power by a road block -- the morality of the family unit and the Christian basis for the growth in Western Civilization.
If this can be marginalized with the cheapening of what marriage has meant to the commitment of two people to raise a family in this centuries’ old concept as the basis of civilization, namely commitment to the traditional roles of men and women in their union, the tyrants will succeed.
It is predictable that international bankers would favor the breakup of traditional marriage in that it gives them far more leverage in dividing communities and family life into a plantation style commune where the people can be managed and controlled.
It’s unfortunate that the man who was elected to preside over the American civilization would turn his back on these centuries of growth in Western Civilization for a few months of politics. Obviously he hopes to get Hollywood’s large checks and to energize those young people who are yet to discover the permanence that marriage brings to their futures and their country, and who will frivolously vote as if Obama were some street smart rock star.
Fortunately, this presidential announcement will energize the majority of middle class Americans into a wave of opposition that Democrat strategists could never have imagined. There are 30 states that have bans against gay marriage; of the 16 so-called swing states in the election, the majority has these bans.
The support for gay marriage has only come from two areas: state legislators acting for lobbyistx and liberal courts and from public opinion polls, largely push polls. Every time the subject of gay marriage has been voted on by the people, it has been defeated.
“The general principles upon which the Fathers achieved independence were the general principals of Christianity.” – John Adams
The support for gay marriage comes from EVERYBODY that embraces substantive "equal rights".
Using religion to justify discrimination is just ignorant.
Every consenting adult should have the RIGHT to decide whom they want to build their life with. Hetro, homo, black, white, jew, muslim.
Btw, I am not sure where allowing gay people to marry = traditional marriage (you mean like kim kardashians hetro 2nd marriage that lasted 72 days) breaking up. If anything it strengthens the notion of commitment, of marriage, of family and community.
Funny that Conservative yanks are all about government been bad, until they want restrictions on the rights and freedoms of their fellow citizens....then big government is awesome.
I agree with everything stated in this post. With everything going on in the US, all that has happened in the last 12 years, gay marriage SHOULD NOT be a factor in this election.
I strongly disagree with your defense of an America that has never existed.
Btw, Canada has had legalized gay marriage since 2005. Oddly, society and morality as we know it has not crumbled.
“…gay marriage SHOULD NOT be a factor in this election.”
The President of the United States, in his infinite irresponsibility, has just made it, for his own selfish purposes, a factor in this election.
The reason that gay marriage shouldn't be a factor, is because it should be legal.
The issue of Gay Marriage in politics has been around a tad longer than Obama's announcement yesterday. But if it fits your narrative, pretend that yesterday's announcement was the first time this became a factor, in any political campaign.
well said
You arent even American and yet somehow you know what America did or didnt exist from what- reading a book on The Deconstructionist History of the US? Watching TV? Reading the internet?
What an intensely stupid statement.
I didn't realize that one needed to be AN American to understand how profoundly inaccurate the notion of America being a country based on "morality and Christian principles" is and always has been. The words sound good, but on a substantive basis, not so much.
Unless Americans have a different defination of morality and Christian principles than I have. Maybe the do, which allows them to buy into the narrative of American exceptionalism, which is merely American entitlement.
A country that decimated its native population, embraced slavery, embraced segregation until 30 years ago, currently allows 17 million children to live in poverty, invades countries for their oil, didn't get involved in Darfur because Sudan was an important oil ally, didn't label Rwanda a genocide to avoid the responsibility of intervening and runs economic policy for the benefit of the upper 10% of US society (upper gets to keep the money and the bottom 90% get the losses) is not my defination of a country based on morality and Christinity.
But hey i don't reside in the US, which clearly negates my opinion. When one doesn't like debating on the merits of statment, it is always best to present a formative barrier to entry that discredits anothers arguement.
Only have to read Tocqueville's definition of American despotism. Nuff said.
Three and a half years later when dropping in the polls, its time to embrace gay marraige. LOL!! This man is a joke!
Obama knows he cannot win. He must go to the extremes to have a chance. So don't be surprised when he panders to another extreme group closer to the election.
Cool idea to reduce the population, thus reduce unemployment. people of same sex can't produce children, can they?
Was that sarcasm or are you so stupid as to think that gay people can't make kids the same as people who get "MARRIED" while advertising on CraigsList for dick? Sperm is sperm fella, it does not care where or in what kind of hole the last load went.
Have no problem with live and let live, but this admistration has been nothing other than a rubber stamp when it comes to civil liberties and just to throw a little more salt into the wound ala George (the constitution is just a God Damned piece of paper ) Bush. Under Obama project Stella Wind is nearing completion in the Utah desert. This will be the ultimate NSA love fest which will capture and anylize every piece of electronic data you create from E-mails, Tweets, phone calls, faxes as well as continuing to eaves drop on any and all innocent Americans. More power to the LBGT segment of society. It should have happened years ago. But the continued assaults on our personal liberties are of far greater importance. Orwell was right. He was just 30 years too early. I voted for "O" the first time, that mistake won't happen again.
Or, just thinking out loud here, OR maybe there is real injustice that he was laoth to address because the injustice comes from a majority of the population, no matter how slim that majority might be. Because at the bottom of it all is there are real people getting hurt badly by the status quo that so serves the majority and is wrong by any definition of the word.
Congratulations to Dr. Cate Jenkins for the court reinstating her job at the EPA.
Dr. Jenkins valiantly fought the criminal Bush administration, then the criminal Obama administration, on behalf of American workers at Ground Zero.
America is eternally grateful for the few honest and honorable Americans like Dr. Jenkins.
(Reminds one of how they fired all those teachers at the school in Chicago --- mostly Black-Americans --- and President Obama went on national television to applaud that vile decision, which was later overturned by an honest judge as wrongful termination and their jobs were reinstated.)
In the latest news, Obama’s former chief of staff, Rahm Emanuel, now mayor of Chicago, has denied the constitutional right to assemble to the nurse’s union, National Nurses United.
Meanwhile, President Obama has taken time off from his War on Whistleblowers to talk about gay stuff…..
Sources:
http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2012/05/07-4
http://www.scribd.com/doc/45058200/Jenkins-031102-Asbestos-Status-WTC
Bread and Circuses my friends....
It is slightly entertaining to watch the wailing and gnashing of the brown boot crew.
"I’m in favour of consenting adults being able to do whatever they like with each other"
That ideology means it is OK for:
I am not in favor of the above.
snarc: The NSA just noted on your pernament record that you will never be a candidate for a "TS+yankee white" job where travel is involved.
I am not in favor of any of what you listed, but really, who are you to tell other mutually consenting adults what to do? Yeah, pass a law against it and criminalize it. That works so well. See prohibition and current war on drugs if you want to see how effective that is.
As long as the popular culture/media supports and glamorizes aberrant behavior, all of the laws in the world won't change a thing. The constant attack on the family has had its intended result. The breakdown of the family has left more and more children open to and influenced by the pornification of America. It's tragically sad imo.
If you're not in favor of the above, then don't do them. No one's forcing you to do any of these things. However, if I or anyone else doesn't prefer as you do, you have no right to force your code of behaviour on them.
I'm not in favor of eating my own feces, but I would never suggest that it's not OK for you to do so. (If you do it at my house, I probably won't invite you for dinner ever again though.)
You cannot be that stupid can you? You think you can cover up your hate for others, your total impotence by saying shit like that? Are you not ashamed of yourself? Have you no level of self respect?
No matter, you are already passe, of no consequence, just another angry old white guy that has no power. Enjoy your nursing home and I can't say this with more sincerity, die easy, die hard, just die.
obama sold his soul for votes a long time ago ...
Gay Divorce must be made legal before Gay Marriage.
Why is the meaning of marriage being co-opted?
Make civil unions legal, get supposed insurance/tax benefits - fine - I don't care - but attacking the definition of marriage is a mistake. It will only polarize and alienate.