Guest Post: Regardless Of What The Propaganda Says, This Is Not How A Free Society Treats People

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Submitted by Simon Black of Sovereign Man

Regardless Of What The Propaganda Says, This Is Not How A Free Society Treats People

I’ve been in the US for a little more than 24-hours. And having flipped through the TV channels trying to figure out what useless drivel big media is passing off as ‘news’, I realized that I’m going to vomit if I hear the word “fair” one more time.

This concept of ‘fair’ seems to be dominating discussion of the US government’s dismal fiscal condition. The talking heads say that it’s ‘fair’ for wealthy Americans to pay higher taxes and bail the country out… or that everyone needs to pay his/her ‘fair’ share.

The whole logic is absurd: you do not ‘fix’ the country’s fiscal imbalances by giving the idiots in charge even more resources to squander… it’s like dumping gasoline on a forest fire. Somehow the debate seems to have missed this point.

This ‘fair’ nonsense is also very dangerous.  Just ask any three-year old– ‘fair’ is completely arbitrary. It’s like a Wiki version morality… if enough people agree on it, it’s fair.

In this case, ‘fair’ is defined in the sole discretion of those who are the direct beneficiaries of confiscating other people’s money. But let’s look at the numbers:

According to the IRS statistical database, the top 1% of income earners in the United States pays roughly 40% of all US individual income tax. They also get audited at least 5-times more than anyone else. Fair?

The other major complaint seems to be that the wealthy are ‘abusing’ capital gains rules in order to pay a 15% rate instead of a 35% rate. Duh. That’s why they’re wealthy, and stay wealthy… they don’t WORK for a living, they OWN assets which are subject to capital gains.

It seems so bizarre that a country once regarded as the freest, most economically enviable in the world would treat its productive citizens with such hostility.

This is where Eduardo Saverin comes in. The Facebook co-founder, who finds himself a few billion dollars richer this week, recently renounced his US citizenship. And, to the intelligentsia, it’s not ‘fair’.

‘Saverin needs to pay his fair share! He owes America more,’ they whine, completely ignorant that the 30-year old is already forking over a $500+ million exit tax (which may end up in the billions).

Apparently it’s not good enough that the company Saverin co-founded has created tens of thousands of jobs, spawned entire industries, and produced oodles of new millionaires. Oh yeah, it’s also made things damn easy for the CIA, NSA, and FBI. You’d think Uncle Sam would pin a medal on his chest.

But no. Saverin left behind a lot of value and decided to move on to greener pastures in Singapore. Now the do-gooders in Congress are cooking up new legislation (the EX-PATRIOT Act) designed to permanently bar ‘renunciants’ like Saverin from re-entering the United States.

It’s interesting that, rather than change their ways of doing business and introducing legislation that provides incentives for productive people to come here and stay here, they maintain policies that chase people away, and introduce new ones to lock the door after they’re gone.

The lesson here (especially for natural-born citizens) is this: simply by accident of birth, you are born with a lifelong obligation that you never signed up for to finance the corrupt misdealings of the political class. And if you choose to abandon this obligation, they will bar you from ever entering your homeland again.

Regardless of what the propaganda says, this is not how a free society treats people. It might look and feel like a representative democracy on the surface, but under the hood it’s the modern day equivalent of feudal serfdom.

The land of the free has certainly fallen a long way

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Thu, 05/17/2012 - 14:38 | 2436569 redpill
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And people laughed at Ron Paul when he said he was more concerned with border fences being used to keep us IN.

 

Thu, 05/17/2012 - 14:40 | 2436587 Pladizow
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America = Dead Man Walking!

Thu, 05/17/2012 - 14:43 | 2436600 BigMike
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It is on life support -- one more chance in November. Ron Paul!

Thu, 05/17/2012 - 14:52 | 2436653 Ahmeexnal
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Ogolfer's 2012 election campaign slogan:

From each, according to his abilities. To each, according to his needs.

Thu, 05/17/2012 - 15:32 | 2436863 Convolved Man
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Hmmm,  where did I that phrase before...?

Oh, Yeah.  On the other side of that big f*cking wall in Berlin.

I guess we can think of this piece of legislation as more barbed wire on top of the virtual border fence.

Thu, 05/17/2012 - 16:11 | 2437033 porrannor
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"According to the IRS statistical database, the top 1% of income earners in the United States pays roughly 40% of all US individual income tax..."

This is yet another dumb statement... The way it is working out the so called 1% will be paying a 100% of taxes since the rest of us will join the growing destitute part of the poluplation.

Thu, 05/17/2012 - 20:32 | 2437948 Harlequin001
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So, shouldn't the destiny of the country be defined by those who pay the taxes?

Let's look at this. Surely, if Joe sixpack who pays no tax and relies on handouts should have no vote, and Severin and his 1% ilk should have 40% of the votes, do you not agree, that the US would become a true capitalist society in which those with capital would thrive, and those that provided the labour would enjoy a good living? Or do you think those with capital should be coerced into staying by a govt hell bent on taking that capital and giving it to someone else, (either someone who does no work or a bank) on pain of losing his birth right ever to return?

or do you think that the workers should have all the benfits (since they are the ones doing the labour), and that those that take the investment risk should be entitled to 'a little bit off the top' in fair compensation?

Let's face it, democracy hasn't worked, anywhere, has it?

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 00:44 | 2438538 Totentänzerlied
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like all other political systems, that depends on the following condition: are you a crony?

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 02:01 | 2438685 Harlequin001
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Not sure how that statement relates to the topic...

but do elaborate, please...

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 09:29 | 2439279 blunderdog
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Nothing has ever worked anywhere, but if you want to return to monarchy, maybe you should start a political party.

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 10:40 | 2439723 Dr. Kenneth Noi...
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No representation without taxation!

 

Me, I'm thinking a whole lot of good would come out of simply undoing everything the US gov't did in 1913, and perhaps desecrating the grave of Woodrow Wilson.

Thu, 05/17/2012 - 19:07 | 2437760 smlbizman
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in howard county maryland today the news reported road blocks for seatbelt inspection......and if you were wearing your seatbelt they would give you a dollar.....i really dont know what to say at this point....

Thu, 05/17/2012 - 20:33 | 2437960 Harlequin001
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Just keep driving round the block...

you'll soon be fucking loaded...

Thu, 05/17/2012 - 14:54 | 2436657 Colombian Gringo
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The Presidents  NDAA executive order means that  you can be taken in the night from your home, without a warrant, without habeas corpus,  be tortured and  be locked away forever. But, he believes that you should have the right to marry your butt buddy.

 

If that is considered upholding civil rights, the loss of liberty but the solemnization of sodomy, no wonder increasing numbers of  americans want out of the USA.

Thu, 05/17/2012 - 14:56 | 2436668 CH1
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America is OVER.

Those who claim otherwise are holding to the dreams of a dead past.

Have a good cry, then get up and DO something. Not talk, DO.

Thu, 05/17/2012 - 15:00 | 2436699 Michael
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Welcome to The United States of Bankistan.

Thu, 05/17/2012 - 15:47 | 2436944 malikai
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The United Prisons of America.

Thu, 05/17/2012 - 21:07 | 2438027 dryam
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FUCK YOU U.S.A.!!!!!!!! 

 

Never thought I'd ever say that growing up, but this shit seriously has me thinking about moving to New Zealand & taking my much in demand job skills, insane work ethic, and capital with me.

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 01:44 | 2438651 USKiwi
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Do it.  Life is awesome down here in NZ and it is not hard to do.  We bailed from the US in 2009 and life has never been better for us. 

Thu, 05/17/2012 - 15:41 | 2436923 Klazy Plick
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I blame Jesus.  He put the idea out there: "render unto Caesar that which belongs to Caesar".

Thu, 05/17/2012 - 17:10 | 2437344 Grinder74
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And that statement was based on the fact that Ceasar's face was on the coinage--therefore it presumably "belonged" to him.  Neither Turbo-Tax Timmy nor Obummer's image is on any of the money, so it definitely doesn't belong to them.  Ergo, render nothing to them!

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 01:32 | 2438634 USKiwi
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I already did something.  I left for New Zealand while the option still existed.

Thu, 05/17/2012 - 16:02 | 2436998 garypaul
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Columbian Gringo:  If I may add my two-cents, it seems that in Western countries the only kind of sex that is clamped down upon by the law is sex between a man and woman!

Thu, 05/17/2012 - 16:28 | 2437138 F. Bastiat
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Oh please. Of course, if you give up that easily, you certainly make things more difficult.

Thu, 05/17/2012 - 14:58 | 2436686 F. Bastiat
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You're very naive.

Thu, 05/17/2012 - 14:45 | 2436615 onelight
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Kind of odd how Schumer did not do this when Jim Rogers moved to Singapore, saying sell US assets.. Guess ya gotta write the right checks. 

Thu, 05/17/2012 - 14:52 | 2436648 cliffynator
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Jim Rogers did it early.. before it became La Mode to exit or talk about exiting the country.

Thu, 05/17/2012 - 15:31 | 2436868 Id fight Gandhi
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Rogers did it on the sly. This FB is a clearly ducking out to pocket the tax money.

He's young and thinks he's smart. He'll end up pissing it away on investment failures from here on out. Always happens to lottery winners.

Thu, 05/17/2012 - 15:54 | 2436970 tmosley
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Eh?  So he's paying a half a billion in exit taxes to duck a $64 million tax bill?

Not FAIR!!!!!  I say we take all of his assets, and take him out back behind the chemical shed and shoot him, then sell his organs, and use what's left as cow feed.

Thu, 05/17/2012 - 18:39 | 2437680 BigJim
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 He'll end up pissing it away on investment failures from here on out. Always happens to lottery winners.

Maybe. But it's his money, not Uncle Sam's, and, frankly, I'd rather he pissed it away on stupid investments than our overlords used it to buy more drones to control us with.

Thu, 05/17/2012 - 14:57 | 2436673 t0mmyBerg
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Who introduced this legislation?  Oh yeah, Chuck Shumer.  One of the most useless pieces of shit ever to draw breath.  Whatever.  Another reason I will never again reside in NY.

Thu, 05/17/2012 - 15:21 | 2436814 Doubleguns
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Eduardo Saverin should not be allowed back because now we HAVE TO LISTEN TO SHUMER with that horrendous nasal whining voice on the tv for the next few weeks. Actually Saverin is welcome back in my book, but I really hate to listen to Shumer....ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!  Its a damn nightmare.

Thu, 05/17/2012 - 15:24 | 2436829 William113
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Don't worry about Saverin he still has his Israeli and Brazilian passports. This is all a big scam nobody with money like that comes out and says I'm renouncing my citizenship. Smoke and mirrors. Just like when Munger said don't buy gold what he was really saying was only certain people quietly buy gold. Saverin is telling certain people that its time to go away but do it quietly.

Google search how many CEO's have quietly retired and have disappeared. If any of this sounds familar it should it happened 70 years ago.

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 00:13 | 2438477 Cathartes Aura
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this.

while some of the angry snark here is hella amusing, it's good to see the critical thinking is still bubbling.

the heat under the pot just got turned up another notch, feeling it yet?

Thu, 05/17/2012 - 16:06 | 2437016 smb12321
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The other cosponser (Sen Kerry "D" Pa) was interviewed on CNBC about this and was asked three times, "Don't you think we should have tax policies that attract productive people rather than force them to leave" and each time his answer was, "People gotta pay their fair share.  PA has poor people."  The interviewer finally gave up. 

Few are aware that he would face a host of new taxes and fees besides the IPO tax.  How odd that it's liberals would who introduce border controls for US citizens.

Thu, 05/17/2012 - 17:03 | 2437314 CaptainObvious
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It's actually Bob Casey, Jr. (D) who co-sponsored the bill.  Please, don't accuse PA of having foisted Kerry on the world...PA is already responsible for having foisted Santorum on the world. ;)

Thu, 05/17/2012 - 18:47 | 2437705 RafterManFMJ
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Great insight SMB - liberals want to import third world masses and get them on welfare, yet prevent the productive from getting the hell out and escaping the cesspool they are making.

Thu, 05/17/2012 - 14:47 | 2436623 F. Bastiat
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People laugh at Ron Paul in general. Although his message sometimes resonates, the messenger isn't helping.

Thu, 05/17/2012 - 14:54 | 2436661 Dr. Richard Head
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Tis a shame that the American population care more about the gift wrapping of the package rather than what the gift itself is.  Fucking bunch of toddler/puppy/kitten fucktards if you ask me.

Thu, 05/17/2012 - 14:58 | 2436679 F. Bastiat
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Well, one needs to be a persuasive communicator to get one's message across. Dr. Paul may be a nice guy, but he's neither a communicator nor a leader.

Thu, 05/17/2012 - 15:10 | 2436739 CrockettAlmanac.com
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If your definitions of communicator and leader fail to recognize the efforts of a man who has enlightened and motivated millions of people then may I suggest that you buy a dictionary. When you get a handle on English vocabulary perhaps you'll be able to communicate more effectively yourself.

 

https://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&hl=en&source=hp&biw=1366&bih=595&...

Thu, 05/17/2012 - 15:20 | 2436799 F. Bastiat
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He's had 30-some odd years to accomplish something meaningful; he hasn't done it. While I agree with some of his ideas, he just never makes them persuasively.  His son's much better, frankly.

Thu, 05/17/2012 - 15:26 | 2436847 CrockettAlmanac.com
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Meaningful to whom? Ron Paul's words and actions have been very meaningful to me and millions of other people. I understand that you are unmoved by the man but it seems odd that you can't see the obvious effect he's had on the lives of a great number of people.

Thu, 05/17/2012 - 15:35 | 2436890 F. Bastiat
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Well, if he had actually accomplished something, the states united would be more "free" today than when he took office in the 70s.  As far as I can tell, the states united are far less free than when Dr. Paul assumed office.

Are you claiming that we would somehow have slipped into totalitarianism if not for the miraculous efforts of the Congressman from TX 14?  That sounds like a bit of a stretch.

Thu, 05/17/2012 - 18:44 | 2437694 BigJim
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 Well, if he had actually accomplished something, the states united would be more "free" today than when he took office in the 70s. 

Er, yeah, that's right, why didn't he single-handedly stop all that 'patriotic' legislation all the other scum in congress passed? What a loser he must be!

Tell you what, 'Bastiat', why don't you single-handedly vote him into the presidency in November yourself?

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 02:17 | 2438701 F. Bastiat
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Good grief; it's called "leadership" - not "cult" leadership.

My point stands - he has accomplished virtually nothing in spite of 30 some odd years of opportunity to take a stand for liberty in some respect.

Don't get me wrong - I generally agree with his ideas.  The problem is not the "message" it's the pseudo-cult-shaman messenger who talks a talk but doesn't walk a walk.

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 09:48 | 2439386 BigJim
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 he has accomplished virtually nothing in spite of 30 some odd years of opportunity to take a stand for liberty in some respect.

He's constantly taken a stand for liberty, not in 'some' respect, but in all respects.But he's only one man, with one vote, in a legislative body of hundreds of Statists.

 Don't get me wrong...

We don't get you wrong, shill; we can see exactly what you are.

Thu, 05/17/2012 - 15:35 | 2436892 Dr. Richard Head
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He has changed my life in more ways than I can count.  The message of his got through to a hard core KILL ALL THOSE FUCKING MUSLIMS REPUBLICAN that I once was.  I even have a Muslim neighbor and he and I have the best conversations I could ever have imagined.  He loves the fact that I have so much knowledge and am SO DIFFERENT than the other Americans he has met.  The same can be said of my Indian neighbor as well. 

I read heard and understood the message fine and well and have never turned back.

Thu, 05/17/2012 - 15:50 | 2436955 malikai
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Obamney just wants to be president(puppet). Paul has started a revolution.

Thu, 05/17/2012 - 16:30 | 2437151 F. Bastiat
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Clearly.

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