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Guest Post: "Russia And China Will Pay A Price"

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Submitted by John Aziz of Azizonomics,

Hillary Clinton just made a very memorable statement.

I do not believe that Russia and China are paying any price at all – nothing at all – for standing up on behalf of the Assad regime.  The only way that will change is if every nation represented here directly and urgently makes it clear that Russia and China will pay a price

So — exactly what price must Russia and China pay? Should the United States stop buying the debt they issue to support bloated welfare states and fiscal irresponsibility? Should the United States stop exporting consumer goods that fill their stores, and keep their people fat and happy? No — I do not think it is Russia and China who would “pay” in the case of increased mutual antagonism. I think the United States will pay the greater price.

In any case, Russia denies the premise of her argument.

From RT:

Russia rejects in the strongest possible terms allegations that it supports President Assad in the Syrian conflict. US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said Moscow and Beijing must ‘pay a price’ for backing Assad.

While I think Russia and China are the thing standing between Syria and another Iraq-style ‘democratisation”, I do not necessarily think Russia and China are doing the wrong thing. While the Assad regime is certainly inhumane and brutal, the rebels that Clinton seems so urgent to support seem little better — at least judging by their attempt to get British journalists killed in the name of propaganda, and their well-known affiliation with global jihadism.

As I noted back in February:

Can we honestly say that committing guns, blood and money to deposing Assad will guarantee peace and stability? Can we honestly say that the next regime might not be worse? I do not believe we can — especially considering that almost every nation involved in the “Arab Spring” has since elected Islamists to power.

Even with the support of the Arab league, is getting entangled into another messy and open-ended conflict in Russia and China’s backyard really a good idea?  Some voices in China are already rumbling that they would be willing to go to war to prevent an American takeover of Iran.

If avoiding nuclear proliferation is our goal, intervention is certainly a bad idea. Qaddafi’s deposition — in stark contrast to nuclear-armed North Korea — was a signpost to rogue regimes that the only way to ensure their survival is to pursue nuclear armaments.

The real question though, is what Hillary Clinton thinks she can achieve through throwing unveiled threats around and destabilising the fragile global system? Is she so fervently committed to expensive and bloody foreign interventionism that she is willing to risk creating a global diplomatic and political crisis in order to get what she wants? How far will she go to force the American agenda? Regional war? Global trade war? World war?

My guess is that her threats are completely hollow.


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Fri, 07/06/2012 - 20:34 | 2593738 john39
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smells like desperation to me.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 20:36 | 2593743 HellFish
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Hillary is the Progressive wife of a sexual predator President.  Nothing more.  What more would you expect from someone with those credentials?

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 20:54 | 2593802 JPM Hater001
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Let's be fair... It became unstable when she said yes to bill.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 21:17 | 2593863 Vampyroteuthis ...
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Russia and China are both selling arms to Syria. Who are we kidding? They are making out like bandits! Someone should tell the bitch to just shut up by the way. Disgusting and clueless.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 21:23 | 2593880 markmotive
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Russia and China hold all the cards. They don't have to pay anymore.

What has Empire America paid over the past 30-odd years?

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 21:46 | 2593930 Peter Pan
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Hillary is intent on playing chess on someone else's chess board using not her daughter  as  a chess piece but some other anonymous daughter or son from Ohio, Detroit, Texas or wherever.

It's not economies and wealth that are at risk but humanity itself.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 22:16 | 2593990 Max Hunter
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That fucking bitch won't be happy until we are all bleeding for Israhell..

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 23:09 | 2594088 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Max Hunter said:

That fucking bitch won't be happy until we are all bleeding for Israhell..

While I'm not disagreeing with you, I always thought McCain, Lieberman, and Graham were the prancing wargirl bitches.

Hillary is more of a warmongering dick.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 23:25 | 2594104 Richard Chesler
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It's a big club, and most of them ain't in it.

In Hillary's view, just more peasants.


Fri, 07/06/2012 - 23:38 | 2594124 sullymandias
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Hillary == Lady MacBeth

Hillary == Vampire Hell Bitch

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 00:59 | 2594217 TwoShortPlanks
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How to deal with Hillary Clit-non

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 01:34 | 2594249 strannick
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Im sure the 'nations there', ie. Europe, would love to make China and Russia 'pay a price'. First they could alienate China, sos to keep China out of European bond markets, then next they could piss off Russia and get their natural gas cut off.

Why are the Clintons still around? Strange to hear the progressive moral relativist making moral pronouncements. Though when you realize it is hypocritical and self serving pap from a sociopathic administration, its less grating.

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 01:56 | 2594271 The Monkey
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Jawboning. Somewhere, I've seen this before.

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 02:17 | 2594287 The Alarmist
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This is the face of an insane regime bent on condemning a once-great republic to the dust-bin of history.

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 04:41 | 2594358 OpenThePodBayDoorHAL
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Hilary has turned the State Dept into just another arm of the Pentagon. She has forgotten that there is supposed to be something that is NOT-WAR and that thing is called DIPLOMACY. That's where you talk to the other side. We already have plenty of people lined up for the KILL THEM part. We need more people lined up for the TALK TO THEM part. We have the Bomber-in-chief with his disgusting little book of people we need to kill because they might do something bad in the future:

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 05:24 | 2594369 bigkahuna
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LOL! military diplomacy is all the neos use. Both the demicriminals and republicons have been doing it steadily for QUITE some time now!!!

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 08:31 | 2594477 francis_sawyer
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Obama to Putin:


"I'll have a lot more flexibility on [making you pay the price] after the election"

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 09:41 | 2594574 FEDbuster
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Since the military is the only thing backing the dollar as the world's reserve currency, it kinda makes sense.  Desperate people, saying desperate things.

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 10:29 | 2594633 Precious
Sat, 07/07/2012 - 11:31 | 2594710 Spirit Of Truth
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Don't worry, you Eurocowards will soon get what you want.  America will be destroyed and Russia and China will dominate the world:

Then you'll remember what nation was fighting for freedom in this ill-fated world.


Sat, 07/07/2012 - 13:04 | 2594910 smiler03
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I think the UN should put out a contract on HC. Poison tipped umbrellas could do it.

Mon, 07/09/2012 - 21:17 | 2597689 Bringin It
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Making threats, generating fear is a necessary component of fiat backed only by military force. 

The big moment comes when declining credibility allows some participant to call the bluff.

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 09:52 | 2594595 engineertheeconomy
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Seems like the organized criminal  military-banking complex with their thinly veiled motives are hell bent on installing a central banking system in Iran and Syria. I wonder what Chelsia thinks about her evil fucking cunt mother?

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 14:52 | 2595097 delacroix
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didn't chelsea marry the son of a jew crook?( excuse me.unethical jewish businessman) 

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 09:01 | 2594518 Dugald
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The face that launched a thousand quips........

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 23:20 | 2594098 Colombian Gringo
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Assad and the Nato Backed Rebels, a plague on both their houses. May they rot in hell and leave us alone.

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 08:50 | 2594500 The Alarmist
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I'm trying to think how the average American would feel if the Russians and Chinese had started to arm the Montanna or Michigan militias or if Canada had sent un-announced fighters over the border during the Waco siege, which as close to armed rebellion as the US has come in our lifetimes.

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 10:24 | 2594631 knightowl77
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Free guns & bullets....Sounds good to me.....and Waco was no armed rebellion....


you and Janet Reno should get together, you'd  be great pals

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 11:31 | 2594713 Precious
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We need this shit about as much as we need jellyfish on the beach.

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 16:28 | 2595216 FEDbuster
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If Russia and China start sending arms to liberty lovers (domestic terrorists according to Big Sis), please pm me for a complete wish list.   Let Putin start "walking guns" into Arizona, we love our guns here and our gun laws reflect it.

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 11:58 | 2594760 The Alarmist
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That's the point, dude ... Waco was no armed rbellion, but it was ruthlessly supressed, complete with dead women & children in a scene every bit as grisly as those we have seen from Syria, which is fighting a very heavily armed group of rebels. It seems some sovereigns have more freedom to abuse their citizens than others.

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 00:46 | 2594194 perchprism
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That fucking bitch won't be happy until we are all bleeding for Israhell..

Aw fuck off, dickhead. This is all about Obama's re-election, and that faggot hates Israel as much as your cocksucking fairy ass does.

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 04:46 | 2594361 Zeilschip
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Is it faggot or faggotte when referring to a female? Or am I being too French here?

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 08:47 | 2594493 The Alarmist
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The mere act of being French is already too French.

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 06:14 | 2594395 TwoShortPlanks
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You can guage the global economy simply by the Agression Index here on the ZH Blog. Fuckin love it!

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 23:27 | 2595844 Cosimo de Medici
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Funny you should mention that.  While a new member with an account, I've been a reader since early 2009.  I often wonder if the fact that almost all that is left on this site (as commenters) are the loons, wack jobs, wingnuts and the generally unemployable misfits of society is a kind of indicator that the economy might be improving.  Most of the old posters, who resided in the real world and not the world of endless delusional paranoia and its associated anger, have long since abandoned the site, perhaps because they are gainfully employed.  For the rest, save for a rare few, Zerohedge is a Day Care Center for the forlorn, hopeless and useless of the world (just look through the comments in this article).  Tyler might apply for tax exempt status, either under Social Services or as the Church of Our Perpetual Conspiracy.

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 23:35 | 2595851 TwoShortPlanks
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I think you're right. I reckon that since so many people have been made unemloyed they're looking for somewhere to hang-out and vent their built up aggression. ZH feels like a economic Repatrition Hospital, full of wounded, bitter and resentfulness individuals who never got it right, tout about small victories but never admit that their losses outweighed their gains. There are some good bloggers though. I rarely post as I feel it's pointless with so many astute economists blogging and all. I have my own ideas about where everything's headed however, I read some blogs to see if anyone's got a new angle, to which I either modify my beliefs or shelve it for a time it seems to fit.

Sun, 07/08/2012 - 10:16 | 2596139 Max Hunter
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Cosimo, and yet you remain to comment and share your wisdom.. Fuck you and the "old posters are better" bullshit. I don't fucking care.. I live for today, not the better yesteryear.. And by the way, i'm not unemployed.. I do well.. Thanks for your concern..

ps.. I do think some of the old posters were great.. but if they've moved on, so what..

Sun, 07/08/2012 - 23:04 | 2597717 Bringin It
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Like tits, I see they travel in pairs now.

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 10:53 | 2594667 Max Hunter
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and that faggot hates Israel as much as your cocksucking fairy ass does.

Yeah right dickface.. all kinds of proof of that.. You're a fucking moron piece of shit israeli firster.. Go to hell

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 12:27 | 2594842 sun tzu
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can your shitty little brain tell us how overthrowing moderate brutal dictators and replacing them with hard-line muslim extremists helps israel? you dumbfucks lack logic. do you think the overthrow of mubarak was good for israel now that the muslim brotherhood is in charge? how about overthrowing gaddhafi and putting al qaeda in charge of libya? i don't give a rat's ass about israel, but stupid comments like yours are annoying.

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 13:49 | 2594984 john39
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isreal prefers decimated destroyed neighbors, incapable of mounting a serious threat, economically or militarily.  the hard line muslim extreemists were created by the NWO to mind control populations.  evidence?  saudi arabia, run by a bunch of cryptos posing as wahibi extremists.

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 14:22 | 2595043 Max Hunter
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Exactly John.. Not to mention, anytime Syria and/or Iran has their power reduced or threatened is good for Israhell and their goal of more land and less Muslims.. I'm sure that moron can't wrap his brain around that riddle though.. just like it's meant to be..

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 14:35 | 2595070 Max Hunter
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Sat, 07/07/2012 - 18:56 | 2595349 cranky-old-geezer
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That fucking bitch won't be happy until we are all bleeding for Israhell..

Hillary (and Obama) couldn't care less about Israel.  What they DO care about is trying to cut off China's oil supply from Iran.

They're trying to turn every ME nation against Iran, and where they meet resistance they try to overthrow the government and install a puppet government, Syria being the latest example.

They won't just ring up NATO and go into Iran like they did Lybia.  Why?  Because Russia and China have warned it would be met with financial retaliation on American financial markets and thermonuclear retaliation on American cities.

China isn't gonna put up with Obama cutting off their oil supply from Iran.  Russia is backing China up on this one.  Russia isn't gonna put up with it either.

Ultimately Obama is trying to prevent a new pan-Asian trade currency and clearing system from being developed.  He knows it would mean the end of the US dollar.

Whoever takes Obama's place would have the same task, trying to prevent a pan-Asian trade currency and clearing system from being developed.



Sun, 07/08/2012 - 23:09 | 2597724 Bringin It
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Geezer, you need to google aipac and refresh your memory.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 23:05 | 2594039 Socialized Losses
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Hell yes Peter Pan. We don't have a dog in the fight over there. It's just terrorist (Ibadi, Kharijite‎, Ahmadi‎, Quranist, Shi'a, Sufii, Alawi, Sunni, Israeli) vs. terrorist (Ahmadi‎, Ibadi, Kharijite‎, Ahmadi‎, Quranist, Shi'a, Sufi, Alawi, Sunni, Israeli). It is OK to supply both sides with bullets, but not US/NATO bodies!!

The most efficient war on terror is fomenting cousins vs cousins. Each of them stabbing the other in the back will keep them too preoccupied to think about doing any terrorism outside their borders.

Violent Middle East chaos is the best anti-terror weapon there is.  We (USA) need to get out of their sovereignty & politics. I don't give a damn who they give power to. Whoever it is will sell their oil to us (if they have any). Isn't that all we really want?

Full Disclosure: I do have a $1 bet that Assad is still in power in Syria a year from now.

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 10:04 | 2594607 engineertheeconomy
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Your "war on terror" could be more accurately defined as a "war on independance". The real terrorists are the malevolent sociopaths protecting the military banking complex and its insanely massive wealth transfer

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 02:43 | 2594303 AnAnonymous
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Hillary is intent on playing chess on someone else's chess board using not her daughter as a chess piece but some other anonymous daughter or son from Ohio, Detroit, Texas or wherever.


The draft is over in some US citizen nations.

In those nations, US citizens recruits join on their own decision. She might be play chess but with consenting adults who revel in joining with a 1:100(or less) death ratio, taking a nice blood money reward, getting lots of jobs opportunities and being worshipped as heroes at home.

There is poorer treatment of pawns.

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 12:07 | 2594770 Temporalist
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Look I know you are retarded so I'll go easy on you.  When the economy tanks there are more lost souls that have few choices and one of those "choices" is to join the military (so the worse an economy does the more cannon fodder).  They are mostly poor destitute people that have seen the ads on TV promoting the military as the best thing for humanity since penicillin and will help save the world "The Navy: A Force for Good" (just ignore all the missiles, gunships, drones and bombers). "Army: Be All That You Can Be" (and make sure others can't be by destroying their country and killing their innocent family).


Those that "consent" that have not joined the military have also been brainwashed by the boob tube into believing there is imminent danger if the US doesn't kill everyone that dissents with US exploits and imperialism or they have been brainwashed from youth by their parents, communities and religious leaders to believe in heaven and angels (much like those same poor brown people that have joined the "opposition" believe in virgins and martyrdom for their gods) and that their version of god is right and all else must be heretical and extinguished.


Obviously that doesn't include everyone but I'd have to say it's the majority.


I could take a retarded adult, much like you, and tell him/her to run into a full courtroom with a bucket of shit and throw it on the jury, and they would probably do it, but that doesn't make them responsible more than it makes me culpable.


Religion and state are rapists of the mind and usually people assaulted (mentally/physically/sexually) in their youth have mental problems in adulthood. 


Just as a note, veterans account for 20% of ALL suicides in the US (and that number may be low).

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 13:31 | 2594948 Scalaris
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A simple recipe; build a system that infuses propaganda at every level, starting from the early days of pre-primary education. Fuse a dominant religious system with the abstract notion of a made-to-fit-logic notion of allegiance to a flag, thereby making it a moral/sacred/incontestable duty for the majority of the lower socio-political classes to subconsciously forge a bond with their land and government, through an ethnocentric sentiment, and to eventually align their own personal ego, with the ego/pride of the collective groups being represented by said government.

Same recipe was applied for centuries, admittedly with more ease, to the subjects genuflecting their King of their Realm, while being provided verification through the indisputable legitimization of their master's reign through their own religious system, declaring that as long there is the saying of "by the grace of God, King of some-tribe", all is as they should.

Centuries later, things are as analogous, with the authority being not a King, but an administration of delegates, representing the capital which bankrolls their own "reign", while masking their power with a veil of public approval through wilful choice, thusly strengthening further the notion of belonging to a homeland which represents the same voters who control its very administration, making it even more difficult for an objective observant to question its motives, without being branded as an "non-patriot".

Ironically, the path to profiteering through the ignorance of its own subjects, caused a gradual disintegration of its own importance, leaving its masses with a feeling of complacency and indifference, while wasting their meagre stipend to the machine of commercialization and express food industry, causing the reduction of the pool for those who are both able and willing to defend their land with a true sense of patriotism, and for the remainder of those with a much weakening feeling of ethnocentric disillusionment, to be lured with financial motives that gratify a sense of perverse duty, for the defence of a non-existent enemy.

In conclusion, the ascension of middle classes implies a certain level of higher education for a percentage of its group, and with a newfound level of informational knowledge, subjects are starting to question legitimacies of Gods and purposes, contributing to the undermining of the authority and its actions. For this reason, social underclasses will always be needed to maintain a percentage of any republic's malleable voting base, while the expansion of middle class is kept at bay, due to the limits maintained by the necessary safeguard imposition.

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 15:42 | 2595204 francis_sawyer
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I'm still leaning towards the "Hugo Drax" approach & launching 6 Moonrakers into space...

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 14:44 | 2595080 palmereldritch
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Speaking of choices, looks like military conscription in China has softened recently:

The amendment seems to refer to an amendment presented at the end of June, which is aimed at recruiting more college graduates to the military. An article published on 28 June in reads:

“China's top legislature Monday started reviewing a draft amendment to the country's military conscription law for the first time in 13 years with the purpose of recruiting more college students.

Time to put that college programming...errr... education to work, no?

And you really shouldn't be so critical.  Because where would the PLA be without good Ol' Uncle Sam?


Sun, 07/08/2012 - 05:28 | 2595991 boattrash
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Peter Pan, are you speaking of that daughter that is the "spittin image" of Web Hubble?

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 02:20 | 2594289 A Nanny Moose
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$16T in debt, I would say we have yet to pay a dime for anything.

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 08:51 | 2594503 mick_richfield
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The bill is in the mail.

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 23:37 | 2595853 TwoShortPlanks
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And my cheque's in the mail too...I swear!

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 19:36 | 2595549 Paul Bogdanich
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I would be very careful before discounting these remarks when reminded of the despearte straights the administration is in concerning re-election.  As the author him or herself says,

"The real question though, is what Hillary Clinton thinks she can achieve through throwing unveiled threats around and destabilising the fragile global system? Is she so fervently committed to expensive and bloody foreign interventionism that she is willing to risk creating a global diplomatic and political crisis in order to get what she wants? How far will she go to force the American agenda? Regional war? Global trade war? World war?" 

If we replace the term "force the American agenda" with the phrase "to get re-elected and retain her power" to clarify the meaning of the statment I would think regional war at least.  These people are truly dangerous and one forgets or minimizes that at one's own peril.     

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 22:14 | 2595775 EverythingEviL
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Finally someone with some logic other than, "China and Russia will not stand for this!" they may not have a choice

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 21:08 | 2593841 Hedgetard55
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The Secretary of Skeez is one skanky ho, eh? Guess she wants the Muslim Brotherhood and her lover's mother to take over Syria also.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 21:13 | 2593850 El
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Predator? Laughing hysterically...sweetie...Slick Willie was prey and Hillary has always worn the pants in that family.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 21:21 | 2593873 CH1
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Ask Juanita.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 21:22 | 2593876 Vampyroteuthis ...
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Hillary was too busy snuggling up to Janet Reno. She cared less what Slick Willie ever did.

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 12:07 | 2594776 Temporalist
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it's a good thing I didn't read that on a full stomach

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 23:56 | 2594155 CitizenPete
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That's the only positive I can think of for her too. 

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 01:01 | 2594220 Schmuck Raker
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Are you funkin' retarded?

She's a lawyer.

Capitalize "Progressive" as often as you will, it doesn't suck all of us into your narrow, "bi-centric" arguments.

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 02:27 | 2594293 Lucky Guesst
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 Ummm she said she was a progressive but the bitch lies so you might be right.

Presidential hopeful Hillary Clinton ran away from the "liberal” tag during Monday night’s Democratic debate, claiming instead that she is a "progressive.”

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 01:58 | 2594275 caconhma
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Hillary fits perfectly into the Obama administration. They are both extremely arrogant and corrupt frauds & liars, and absolutely incompetent for perform their jobs. It is a perfect combination for a US national and world catastrophe.

Unfortunately, Zionist-controlled socialist America is very sick.

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 02:45 | 2594304 AnAnonymous
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Hillary is the Progressive wife of a sexual predator President.


Hillary Clinton is a US citizen.

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 08:55 | 2594509 mick_richfield
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Hillary Clinton, like many of the most powerful 'elected' and unelected people in the US are undeclared agents of a globalist transnational power.

Sun, 07/08/2012 - 23:16 | 2597743 Bringin It
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Nicely put.

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 10:09 | 2594609 geno-econ
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Thought Hillary knew how to keep her mouth shut

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 20:45 | 2593769 salvadordaly
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I wouldn't say desperation, I would say more like "need to start WWlll before an election".

There I fixed it for you!

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 20:54 | 2593797 FEDbuster
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WW3 before a worldwide economic collapse.  Solves the youth unemployment problem and thins the herd.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 22:43 | 2594036 Skateboarder
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There will be nothing left to collapse if WW3 goes down...

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 22:47 | 2594048 FEDbuster
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That's not what "they" think. 

Time to re-read "The Road".

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 00:00 | 2594159 Harbanger
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WW3 B4 an economic collapse?  Hmmm...No, not before an economic collapse, it'll never happen.  We need a collapse 1st to motivate the herd into defending the establishment.  Modern Yoots can't and won't ever decide on anything unless it's told to them.  Being "labeled" as something is worse than dying.  They'll never admit it.

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 04:15 | 2594348 torak
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Who will pay for my Social Security? 

/sarc off

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 09:37 | 2594567 FEDbuster
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As long as they can issue credits, you will get your auto deposit.  It might not buy anything, but you will get your credits deposited into your checking account.

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 09:44 | 2594579 azzhatter
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you will be issued spending units. If you are diligent and save your units up you can buy a loaf of bread every other month

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 15:51 | 2595223 FEDbuster
Fri, 07/06/2012 - 20:54 | 2593800 john39
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they thought that they could bully a Syria intervention through the U.N. security counsel.  They assumed that China and Russia would roll over and abstain.  the NWO appears to be losing the power to intimidate China and Russia.  makes you wonder what has happened behind the scenes.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 22:43 | 2594037 delacroix
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the hubris bubble, is even bigger than the bond bubble.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 23:42 | 2594131 Coke and Hookers
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You're probably correct. It has worked before so they thought it would work again. The fact that it didn't work now is geopolitically significant. It seems Putin and the Chinese are taking their gloves off and we are in fact looking at a new cold war right now. This time the enemy is not communism but everybody resisting political globalization. It's like the Politburo moved to Washington and are running ops from there.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 23:53 | 2594147 Seer
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"makes you wonder what has happened behind the scenes."

Oh, no!  It's all out in the open.  The US is fucking broke!  It's a pitiful yapping dog.

Russia has exports (energy) and China holds US Treasuries.

I'm sure the CUNT (yes, I use this term in the most highly discriminatory way) and the rest of the neocons will be able to round up a bunch of gullible fuckers to catch bullets, but the time is drawing to a close where they'll be able to consider this shit again.

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 01:26 | 2594239 Harbanger
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I've been reading some of your comments as a matter of course.  Please hedge at least 10% against yourself.

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 06:31 | 2594401 Element
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What's happened is military and geopolitical leverage.

They can do stuff, like turn Afghanistan into an asymmetric proxy version of 21st century Stalingrad, and decapitate or pin down a significant chunk of the Western military's best expeditionary bits.

Even if they didn't get wiped-out (and I hope they don't), they would get such a grizzly thrashing and retreat in such disorder and appalling loss and haste, that the effects and affects, would be as bad, if not worse, than getting cut-off, surrounded and old-fashioned Little-Big-Horned.

Basically, the US and NATO could be thus forced to sue for cease-fire, and to in a very real sense, beg terms for mass withdrawal of their thus surrendered forces. 

Let's not forget, Iran and Venezuela can turn most of the oil flow off, or greatly reduce it, and in such a fight - they would.

The whole Western Allied military 'power-tripping' thing ultimately stands on very shaky grounds, from here on.

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 08:20 | 2594468 francis_sawyer
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Oh but wait... The US Navy is going to $26 a barrel 'green' biofuel, so we're saved!

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 20:52 | 2593793 flying dutchmen
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these threats might be somewhat hollow,  but if you dont agree with them you are pretty much an asshole..  who in their right mind would agree with syrian tactics..  Zero hedge has a lot of negative posters who probably live in North America, will if you were pretty much any other place in the world they would censor you and i guess in Syria they might just shoot you. The world is a little fucked up but at least we live on the greatest continent...



Fri, 07/06/2012 - 20:55 | 2593805 john39
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Sean Hannity, is that you?

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 23:03 | 2594073 economics9698
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In America we lose our jobs if we are not politically correct.  The killing will come later.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 23:44 | 2594134 sullymandias
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CIA will kill anyone in the world they please. And you no like Syria?

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 10:23 | 2594629 Precious
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Hillary Clinton should take her baskeball and go home.

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 16:46 | 2593836 steelrules
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The US created and used Al Qaeda against the Russians in Afganistan, then used them against Libya and now they are being used in Syria.

 Only 2 questions need to be asked did the US use them on 911 and who is the worlds biggest terrorist government?

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 21:14 | 2593852 otto skorzeny
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the US army is looking for a few good queers to fight their empirical wars- go join up- tough guy-I'll keep the home fires burning

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 23:56 | 2594154 Seer
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Aren't you the macho one!

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 00:16 | 2594170 Money Squid
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Semper Gay !

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 08:54 | 2594507 The Alarmist
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I think you mean "imperial wars," or is that a clever twist the rest of us don't get?

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 08:56 | 2594510 The Alarmist
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Fri, 07/06/2012 - 22:18 | 2593992 Max Hunter
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Hey.. Flyingdickhead.. fuck you

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 23:07 | 2594082 dolce vita
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friggin genius-- lmao...on the floor cryin'

this has become part of my "smack down" venacular


Fri, 07/06/2012 - 22:56 | 2594064 NidStyles
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It's Syria, not the US. Therefore we US citizens should mind our own fucking business. That includes the entitlement whores like Billary and Oscama. 

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 00:09 | 2594164 Seer
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They're only working for TPTB (who are the TRUE "entitlement whores").

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 02:50 | 2594307 AnAnonymous
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Actually, they are working for the US citizen middle class. US citizen middle class is king class in US citizenism and US citizen elite serves the middle class.

US citizen elite is past the point on relying on essential wars for themselves.

They would have done business with Assad as they will do business with the next regime (if one is)

US citizen elite does not spit on a war if the US citizen middle class urges them to trigger a war to get the opportunities going with it.

US military is a middle class institution. And they need jobs, entitlements, money, fun in killing, and being treated like heroes.

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 04:49 | 2594362 JOYFUL
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Altho yur record of inane babblings has long ago brought forfeiture of any further claim upon our time or attention, in this case it has produced a fortuitous chance to settle an issue once n for all....

US citizens, of middle or other class, are by nature innocent of the crimes committed in their name in the globe-spanning terror campaign run by the usurpers in DC-

this innocence has been cancelled out by the machinations of cabbalist necromancers who invoke centuries-old black magician technologies that cast responsibility for their own crimes onto the shoulders of innocents-

because of this curse that has been cast upon the peeples of the west, they will in short order suffer the very terrors that have been wrought upon innocents throughout Asia and the ME...untold numbers of deformed babies, tortures, rapage, theft and wanton destruction...altho they bear no guilt other than silence to the crimes committed in their name-

so called US elites are nothing more than servile tools of the tru masters of the global terror campaign - whose SIONist identity is strangley similar to yur SINO-ist delusions...

perhaps there is a mingling of spirit, if not blood, between the Khazarian imperialists of the west and the Han imperialists of the East!?!?!? They both certainly are unequalled in the barrage of bullshit they constantly splatter!

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 07:24 | 2594398 i-dog
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Go easy on him, Joyous one! His people have been under the boot of foreign devils for nearly 370 years now ... and still counting!

He's just airing his impotent frustrations and kicking a cat - which, for the cat, makes a pleasant change from being eaten by his countrymen (though far be it from me to criticise his culinary choices, given my predilection for goose liver, baby quail, rare beef, raw fish, and other delights that will surely offend somebody). But I digress.

Some interesting Luciferian connections with our Han's pickle do arise however:

Item 1: About half of the Jesuits were kicked out of Japan in 1614, after meddling in Japanese affairs for over 50 years. Who knows where they went next to do their meddling ... but right next door, just 2 years later, a Manchu (mongol) declares himself emperor in northeast China and establishes the 'Latter Jin' dynasty. Sheer coincidence? I'm suspicious. However, the native Han-Chinese Ming dynasty continues to battle on from Peking.

Item 2: The Jesuits were finally kicked out of Japan in 1639 by the Tokugawa shogunate. Who knows where they went next to do their meddling ... but right next door, from northeast China, in 1644, we suddenly see those Manchu (mongols) take over the dragon throne in Peking itself and thus begin the Qing dynasty. End of native Han-Chinese self-rule. Sheer coincidence? I wonder....

Item 3: The Qings also booted the Jesuits out of China in 1783 but [stupidly] allowed them back in again in 1841 - right in the middle of the Opium Wars against the Luciferian drug traffickers of both British and American flags. Double jeopardy!!

Item 4: The end of the Qing dynasty in 1911 (at the hands of the Japanese, Russians and British - with many Luciferian connections to those players) sees the Luciferian Freemason Sun Yat-Sen heading up a fascist Republic of China. He is followed by Freemason Fascist General Chiang Kai-Shek and then, in 1949, with help from the US State Department, the Jesuit-tutored Chairman Mao is placed in charge of implementing Jesuit-inspired communism (which the Jesuits had perfected in their South American 'Reductions' [ed: interesting choice of name!] during the 17th and 18th centuries). Are we starting to see a pattern here? ... or just coincidences? Anyway, .....

Item 5: Now we see the Chinese still unable to rule themselves while a Politburo, marching to the tune of the New World Order, props up the US dollar (for now...until the planned takedown) and prepares the infrastructure for high-density housing of what remains of the population after a global famine and/or plague in the not-too-distant future.

Fanciful conspiracy theory? Maybe.....


[editorial note: IMO, Jesuits and Sabbateans are one and the same. Those calling themselves Jesuits are usually crypto-jews, and vice-versa. They're Khazarian khameleons.]

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 09:45 | 2594581 JOYFUL
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Faxskinating historical tour Dawg -

I did not know that Mao, like Castro, was [mis]educated by Jesuits...

which helps establish some interesting parallels between the Cuban&Chinese "revolutions" and the complicity of US State Dept hidden Khazarians in both...

Like how pederast and State operative Willy Wieland was on the scene in Santiago de Cuba the night Frank Pais was betrayed and assassinated...

Like how John Kenneth Galbraith decided to cancel air operations resupplying Khamba\Golok guerrilla units, leaving 8000 of them to the tender mercies of Chicoms...who were deliberately parachuted into power post WW2 by powerful forces inside State.

Like how the true resistance of the worker-peasant rebellion which Frank had been the genuine leader of were left to be surrounded and murdered in the Escambray because they blocked the accession to power of State's chosen Communist Golpista, Fidel.

Yur thesis be correct, those Karma Khameleons* of the Black Pope's army were the original "Kommunists" - with their slave camps in C16th Paraguay,...and Kommunism is the original American[!?!?!?] export...with Hilary as the leading expo-nent of the present moment....they've spread it all over the world, and now want to 'bring it on home'...

Guarani Injuns and Tibetan Red Men...the best sources of information of what it's like to receive the blessings of 're-education' in the, er, hands on the er, hands of one's betters! US State - 100 years of corrupting morals and decapitating the aspirations of peeples all over the world to simply rule over their own house!

*personally I think the answer to yur question(s) where'd those damn Jesuits go the roof of the world!  The boylovers of the Order were muchly enamored of the worldly pleasures pursued by their Pontific parallels in the Potala, where the incessant cold masked the otherwise intolerable odors of sanctity and sensualism \ but even in the superswishly world of Yellow Hat homoeroticism, the RobedRobbers from the West were simply too gauche to tolerate...which is why all Long Noses were ultimately banned from the Theocratic State of Tibet! 





Sat, 07/07/2012 - 10:39 | 2594649 Pangasius
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The more i read/learn here the more ignorant i feel. Are you people all real? How the fuck do you rattle off all this shit? 

That's why i love reading comments on ZH. I get a nice overview of what all your superbrains have surmised without having to learn it myself.

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 11:28 | 2594707 Race Car Driver
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> The more i read/learn here the more ignorant i feel.


So, what you're saying is that you haven't learned anything and are still ignorant.

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 14:51 | 2595106 Pangasius
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Not just ignorant, more ignorant than ever. I almost feel as if I know nothing.


Fri, 07/06/2012 - 23:38 | 2594126 Socialized Losses
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Who in their right mind would be supporting terrorists. I'm tellin' DHS on you & Hillary!

If the terrorist win in Syria they'll censor/shoot you too, just like Assad, so does it matter which terrorist you support?

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 00:13 | 2594168 Homeland Security
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10-4 Patriot - if you see something, say something to DHS. If the terrorists win in Syria all of the Middle East will fall like dominos. If we do not fight them there, your children will have to fight them here. Either you are with us, or you are against us.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 23:44 | 2594135 TheFourthStooge-ing
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flying dutchmen obediently babbled what he's been told to believe:

these threats might be somewhat hollow,

The threats are totally hollow, which is why they trotted out Strapon Sally to make them.

but if you dont agree with them you are pretty much an asshole..

If you agree with them, you're a brainwashed, bleating poltroon.

who in their right mind would agree with syrian tactics..

Which are what, exactly? Shooting down a foreign jet fighter which entered their airspace during an ongoing civil war? I see nothing wrong with that. Or are you going to trot out all the tired old bromides like "killing his own people", "freedom fighters", "human shields", "baby incubators", etc., which have been spread on thick and heavy when a US administration decides that not enough brown people are being incinerated?

In this particular conflict, none of the participants are beyond reproach. The rebels are just as guilty of civilian massacres as anyone else.

if you were pretty much any other place in the world they would censor you and i guess in Syria they might just shoot you.

Yeah, right, and America is free, and the US military is always the good guys. Go back to watching your cartoons.

The world is a little fucked up but at least we live on the greatest continent...

You don't even realize how pathetic you sound. Not only have you swallowed the lies, you've been trained to regurgitate them at the proper times.

The US government is a global bully and deserves a humiliating ass kicking.

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 00:27 | 2594179 Seer
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Sad part is, an humiliating butt kicking will result in more oppression and poverty at home.

One day we'll wise up and realize we don't need "leaders."  That's the day we'll really be free.

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 02:52 | 2594309 AnAnonymous
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He is a US citizen. And therefore duplicitous.

All those wars are good US citizen wars, providing US citizen middle class with opportunities they are fond of.

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 14:15 | 2595033 prole
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Agreed Comrade Chairman!

And who here would deny the most heinous and duplicitous actions of the evil US citizens, like the Cultural Revolution of the 1960s When known US citizen Hillary -Tsu Tong Murdered still unknown millions of Chinese.

The outrageous US invasion of Tibet, and the ongoing reprehensible campaign of genocide against the peaceful citizens of Tibet by the evil US regime.

Not to forget the horrible US repression of the Tianenmin square demonstrators, when US Driven Tanks murdered unknown numbers of Chinese protesters.

The crimes of the US should not remain hidden Comrade! Help me spread the word of the evil actions of the USA!!

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 22:24 | 2595788 EverythingEviL
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Mon, 07/09/2012 - 05:11 | 2598074 matrix2012
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hi prole! you did a terrific job here amusing all of us... you're really funny, you're amazing!!! ALOL



Sat, 07/07/2012 - 11:30 | 2594711 Race Car Driver
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+1 "baby incubators"

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 11:34 | 2594719 Lucius Corneliu...
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Give the guy a break.  He just needs to turn off his TV and go out and see the world.  

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 22:33 | 2594022 mjk0259
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Exactly. Ain't anything significant US can do to Russia or China short of nuclear war.

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 07:52 | 2594428 Element
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A few days a go Beijing was saying it intended to smash 'separatists' in its far western provinces (next door to Afghanistan), "with an iron fist".

The past two times the US tried to set-up a weapons market next to the Chinese border, those instances went really badly for the US too.

The Chinese and Russians are very familiar working with each other in those past instances to punish the US, and I don't think they'll hesitate at all to do it again, this time around.

In fact, they'll both jump at the chance to kick the crap out of the US, in unexpected ways (for they will have been planning in detail as well).

Washington just never learns (nor wants to), to keep its bombs, artillery, missiles and attack aircraft at home.

One of the things people to this day don't realise is that the "Cuban Missile Crisis", that almost completely fucked humanity for good, was in fact triggered by US IRBMs being forward-based in ... Turkey.  i.e. just a few minutes flight time from Moscow, as part of a pre-emptive strike capability that would disable Russia and satellite states, prior to a full-blooded bomber and ICBM strike with the shiny new thermonuclear arsenal.

" In October 1959, the location of the third and final Jupiter MRBM squadron was settled when a government-to-government agreement was signed with Turkey. The U.S. and Turkey concluded an agreement to deploy one Jupiter squadron on NATO's southern flank. One squadron totaling 15 missiles was deployed at five sites near ?zmir, Turkey from 1961 to 1963, operated by USAF personnel, with the first flight of three Jupiter missiles turned over to the Türk Hava Kuvvetleri (Turkish Air Force) in late October 1962, but USAF personnel retaining control of nuclear warhead arming. ... By the time the Turkish Jupiters had been installed, the missiles were already largely obsolete and increasingly vulnerable to Soviet attacks. All Jupiter MRBMs were removed from service by April 1963, as a backdoor trade with the Soviets in exchange for their earlier removal of MRBMs from Cuba."


So only about a month later from OCT 1962 hand over to Turkey, the IRBM shit hit the fan in Cuba.

So contrary to the US centric mythology of the "Cuban" missile crisis, it was not about Russian missiles in Cuba, the missile crisis was very much about US nuclear missiles in Turkey (under direct Turkish operational control, no less).  Moscow simply did exactly the same thing right back to Washington ... they pointed their IRBMs directly at Washington, at the Pentagon, and absolutely the US Generals knew exactly why that happened.  Indeed, it was the very reason why they were sending U2 spy-planes over Cuba in the first place, because they fully expected Moscow to do what they did.  It was not a surprise, it was totally expected, and well in advance.

This was never about Cuba's freedom from Yanky oppression and financialists and capitalists, at any stage.  It was pure strategic push me-shove-you.  Two wolves circling each other, deciding if it was worth having this fight.

Fortunately, they decided not to, but it did come incredibly close to full-scale nuclear war (and as it turned out is was pure luck that the fight didn't start).

And now Washington is again placing strategically unhinging missiles in far Eastern Europe, and constantly threatening to invade and occupy countries situated right up against Chinese and Russian border areas and to attack their allies and undermine their strategic position and interests.

Any way you look at it Washington knows what it's doing, and been doing, and knows fully that these things are the preliminary acts of a larger war.  It is again dogs sizing each other up, snarling and getting ready to tangle.

It's pure insanity ... except we know from the confessions of generals that it was planned well in advance, over a decade ago.

So now we have to make these two dogs think again.

Especially that ultra-aggressive US dog, that just refuses to ever leave it alone  (the major differences between the two dogs were that one had a zionist-controlled Hollywood to make up lies on demand, the other had a zionist controlled Gulag internal exile for 're-education' of the accepted lies of the day).
This is the problem humanity faces in a nuclear armed world, there will always be two or more dogs doing this, in some form.

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 12:24 | 2594835 knightowl77
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Russia/Putin is playing with Obummer,  testing his level resolve....


Two Russian strategic nuclear bombers entered the U.S. air defense zone near the Pacific coast on Wednesday and were met by U.S. interceptor jets, defense officials told the Free Beacon.

It was the second time Moscow dispatched nuclear-capable bombers into the 200-mile zone surrounding U.S. territory in the past two weeks.

An earlier intrusion by two Tu-95 Bear H bombers took place near Alaska as part of arctic war games that a Russian military spokesman said included simulated attacks on “enemy” air defenses and strategic facilities."

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 23:07 | 2594083 Acorn10012
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Her breath smells like fish...and alcohol.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 23:24 | 2594102 JOYFUL
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Methinks thou dost not know the 'woman'...

this vapid, mind-controlled minx does exactly what her cabbalist masters direct her to -nothing more or less, just like her Manchurian Candidate partner in crime. Their agenda is not hard to understand...

in fact, the author of this piece has answered his own question -

The real question though, is what Hillary Clinton thinks she can achieve through throwing unveiled threats around and destabilising the fragile global system?

destabilzing east and west is the goal here! And yu can discern the same pattern of bloodlust as has marked the history of western Christendom's abandonment of their eastern co-religionists for centuries...Syrias' Christians face another genodical campaign as has occurred in all of the Arab countries with substantial Christian minorities...always unreported in the sionist controlled media, whose Sabbatean owners fight the war of revenge against those who overthrew their Khazrian forefathers a millenium before.

Beware peeeple of the fallen western lands!  For centuries yu have watched in complicit silence as the cabbalist crew have tortured and murdered the slavic, armenian, and syrian christian populations ...for when they have finished with their butchery in the east, they will be ready to come for yu! Divide and conquer...the oldest trick in their book!

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 14:22 | 2595041 prole
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Even among Zhers there are only 2 or 3 of us who care a whit for the since and soon to be exterminated Christian minorities from Bagdad to Damascus. When I personally plead their case to my (Shabbos Goy) family, they openly scoff and make faces to demonstrate their contempt for their "fellow Christians".

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 22:26 | 2595792 EverythingEviL
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I have question for you. Do you think Christians here will go untouched? Or maybe I should better put it, Christian Churches?

Sun, 07/08/2012 - 01:10 | 2595899 prole
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No. They  (I) will be exterminated or enslaved whatever pleases our NWO masters, but it won't be in our lifetime. In our lifetime we basically personally as a Jewish ruled rabidly anti-Christian military force have exterminated Christian culture/ persons in Iraq, Kosovo/Bosnia (including the creation of the first Islamic state in Europe "Kosova" Allah be praised, all US military men should share equally in the glory, all praise to the prophet!)

Soon we will exterminate and eradicate a few million? IDK how many Christians in Syria, so you military and federal Christian men/women reading this-- your hearts should swell up with pride that you will soon eradicate the last sanctuary for Christians in the Middle East, kill the great protector of Christians Assad, and create an Islamic republic in its place. All glory to Allah soon you will drench your swords with Christian blood. I'm so proud to be an American, Allah Akbar!!

As far as the Churches, the Catholic Churches are being abandond anyway by the Catholics as is, the 'mega-churches' are more Zionist worship centers worshipping God-knows what, but I see scant mention or sign of Christ in any of them, and they probably send off the collection money to Israel and spend most of their time on cult of personality and brainwashing the sheeple therin about the 'holocaust' tm and moral superiority of the chosen people.

I am basically weeping for my lost culture and religion. (A suicide of stupidity) The fate of Christians is the fate of the Horse in Animal Farm.

Sun, 07/08/2012 - 02:13 | 2595925 EverythingEviL
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Not to turn this into a religious debate or anything but as a Christian you should not weep. The Bible says this will happen, it's not a bad thing and it's not the end of Christianity. It's the end of "False Chritsianity" and false religion in general.

Revelation 17:

3 And he carried me away in [the power of the] spirit into a wilderness. And I caught sight of a woman sitting upon a scarlet-colored wild beast that was full of blasphemous names and that had seven heads and ten horns. 4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet, and was adorned with gold and precious stone and pearls and had in her hand a golden cup that was full of disgusting things and the unclean things of her fornication. 5 And upon her forehead was written a name, a mystery: “Babylon the Great, the mother of the harlots and of the disgusting things of the earth.” 6 And I saw that the woman was drunk with the blood of the holy ones and with the blood of the witnesses of Jesus.

15 And he says to me: “The waters that you saw, where the harlot is sitting, mean peoples and crowds and nations and tongues. 16 And the ten horns that you saw, and the wild beast, these will hate the harlot and will make her devastated and naked, and will eat up her fleshy parts and will completely burn her with fire. 17 For God put [it] into their hearts to carry out his thought, even to carry out [their] one thought by giving their kingdom to the wild beast, until the words of God will have been accomplished.

These churches will pay for what they have done. But not just because the governments want to plunder their riches and take what they have. But because it's Gods judgment on them for misleading untold millions and starving them spiritually while claiming to be saviors. Notice it says "God put it in their (governments) hearts to carry out his thought to destroy the harlot. (false religion)

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 00:30 | 2594182 SnobGobbler
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nah.. smells like a dried-up-war criminal; with a distracted slut..i mean former leader.. for a husband.. her head i may say would do well on a pike; wont rot like cheney's.


Sat, 07/07/2012 - 01:47 | 2594264 Milton Waddams
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Smells like Military Industrial 'Keynesian' propaganda to me.

and the war machine keeps turning...

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 09:21 | 2594545 vast-dom
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smells like twat and cunt.

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 15:47 | 2595215 spine001
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No, it is just posturing as tough to provide a counterpoint to the Romney campaign.

Sad state of affairs the world is in and all these guys are concerned with is winning the next election.

Until next time,


Mon, 07/09/2012 - 00:42 | 2597898 matrix2012
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Nope, looks like an accelerated process to stage the NWO!

Hillary Clinton, Obama, Congresmen, and many many others, all are serving the same paramount BOSS!

just search "Hillary Clinton Bilderberg"

The Illuminati are a kind of secret world government, their main goal is to create the New World Order (NWO), a fascist-communist global 1984-style dictatorship where every citizen is totally controlled with an implanted RFID chip. One of the exoteric key institutions of the illuminations are the Bilderbergs, for example.

Within the illuminati one can distinguish THREE circles:

1) EXOTERIC (OUTER) circle: e.g. Bilderberg Group, Trilateral Commission, Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) and others. Many on this level (e.g. one-time Bilderberg participants) are more or less clueless what's really going on, but their egos are pleased that they are so close to those with the real power.

2) INNER circle: e.g. regular Bilderberg participants

3) ESOTERIC circles: e.g. Grand Masters of occult societies. That's where the NWO (New World Order) plans are erected. If these plans are implemented or not depends a lot on whether the outer circle can be convinced.

Seeing the sharp escalation of world troubles, seems it's true what's stated there about the biological clock concerns of the puppet masters!

"THERE IS ENORMOUS BIOLOGICAL TIME PRESSURE, time is running out for the esoteric circle: ZBIG BRZEZINSKI is 82 years old, HENRY KISSINGER 87 years, and DAVID ROCK3F3LL3R even 95 years. They have worked many decades for their big goal and have to act (too) fast, which will bring about their downfall."

Read the full here:


Look at how far the their power reaches to individuals, institutions, corporations, mass media, broadcasts... all substantial ones are within their grips!

or a more 'scientific' one, 'Who Runs the World'


And of course, one should NOT miss the more systematical divulgement of this dreadful Dark Vader organization to better grasp their puppet shows in the entire globe!

The History of the House by Andrew Hitchcock

a terser version (.ppt):


Other good read too:

Weapons Of Mass Debt ~

TRAGEDY AND HOPE - Commentary and Analysis: The Ultimate History Lesson  by JOHN TAYLOR GATTO



Fri, 07/06/2012 - 20:36 | 2593742 AUD
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People who think they are as gods, think they can say whatever they please, with no consequence.


Fri, 07/06/2012 - 20:36 | 2593745 Gromit
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Completley hollow, yes.

Syria seems to be no more unkind to domestic "terrorists" than is the US, Ruby Ridge, Waco etc.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 20:38 | 2593750 Dr. Engali
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I have an idea...... Now go with me on this..... Let them fight it out on their own. Keep our nose out of it.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 20:41 | 2593757 Aziz
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You must be one of these pesky isolations who believes in minding your own business and not throwing stones at your neighbours' house.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 20:46 | 2593776 Dr. Engali
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No I prefer to reach out to my neighbor and get to know them.That way I know who I can trust. And I keep a strong arsenal in just case somebody decides to invade my home, but never to invade theirs.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 20:49 | 2593783 Aziz
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Yep, you're exactly what Krauthammer and Kristol would call a "dangerous isolationist"!

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 20:54 | 2593801 Dr. Engali
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That's pretty funny right there..I don't care who you are.®

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 22:11 | 2593982 erg
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The solution is simple. Free A/C for all in these infernal climes. Yeah it's another tax but I'd be pretty ill-tempered too if it was 114 degrees in the shade.

Peace through temperature sharing.

I smell money. Queue a Squid tentacle.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 22:38 | 2594028 mjk0259
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Libya had free electricity when we went after them

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 21:09 | 2593842 mochoajr
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If the Syrian situation is a threat to the world and U.S. security; let's bring back the draft. Let EVERYONE have some skin in the game. Rich, poor, Republican, Democrat, Liberal, Conservative, etc.


Fri, 07/06/2012 - 21:14 | 2593851 Aziz
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Hell yeah.

Skin in the game — you start a war you fight a war. And your kids. And your friends kids. Would cut the number of unnecessary wars drastically.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 21:24 | 2593881 CH1
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you start a war you fight a war. And your kids..

You do realise that rich kids always get out of the draft?

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 21:31 | 2593899 MeelionDollerBogus
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Easy. Start it with them ONLY and allow everyone else the power of arrest for draft-dodging and REVOKE any call to war if they refuse to show up to fight it.

Ya, so "easy". Too bad the most corrupt mafia is the 100% composition of US government at this time.

It's shits like them that make AnAnonymous look logical & sensible in his/her comments.

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 14:30 | 2595062 prole
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I reject ANY call for Slaver, oops, i mean the 'draft.'

Couch it in all the suductive ruses you would like, but the Children of privelege, will always get the safe assignments, this is followed the same in every country from Commie to America.

Children of Joe Six Pack were sent to die in the Mekong Delta, while the Shrub got to play jet-jock a million miles away from Danger. Today they would make such scions of wealth something like "bikini inspector for the new female draftees." "boob massager for female inductees"

Joe six pack's kid get's a one-way ticket to Kandahar, and a ride home in flag draped coffin.

Resist slavery at the source. Muhamed Ali was the only American to openly do so in my knowledge.

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 15:45 | 2595211 DosZap
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Muhamed Ali was the only American to openly do so in my knowledge.

Yes as a coward,he used religion to hide from it.

The Greatest maybe in the ring,but in the real world just another merican Canada refugee,using different means.

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