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Guest Post: "Russia And China Will Pay A Price"

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Submitted by John Aziz of Azizonomics,

Hillary Clinton just made a very memorable statement.

I do not believe that Russia and China are paying any price at all – nothing at all – for standing up on behalf of the Assad regime.  The only way that will change is if every nation represented here directly and urgently makes it clear that Russia and China will pay a price

So — exactly what price must Russia and China pay? Should the United States stop buying the debt they issue to support bloated welfare states and fiscal irresponsibility? Should the United States stop exporting consumer goods that fill their stores, and keep their people fat and happy? No — I do not think it is Russia and China who would “pay” in the case of increased mutual antagonism. I think the United States will pay the greater price.

In any case, Russia denies the premise of her argument.

From RT:

Russia rejects in the strongest possible terms allegations that it supports President Assad in the Syrian conflict. US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said Moscow and Beijing must ‘pay a price’ for backing Assad.

While I think Russia and China are the thing standing between Syria and another Iraq-style ‘democratisation”, I do not necessarily think Russia and China are doing the wrong thing. While the Assad regime is certainly inhumane and brutal, the rebels that Clinton seems so urgent to support seem little better — at least judging by their attempt to get British journalists killed in the name of propaganda, and their well-known affiliation with global jihadism.

As I noted back in February:

Can we honestly say that committing guns, blood and money to deposing Assad will guarantee peace and stability? Can we honestly say that the next regime might not be worse? I do not believe we can — especially considering that almost every nation involved in the “Arab Spring” has since elected Islamists to power.

Even with the support of the Arab league, is getting entangled into another messy and open-ended conflict in Russia and China’s backyard really a good idea?  Some voices in China are already rumbling that they would be willing to go to war to prevent an American takeover of Iran.

If avoiding nuclear proliferation is our goal, intervention is certainly a bad idea. Qaddafi’s deposition — in stark contrast to nuclear-armed North Korea — was a signpost to rogue regimes that the only way to ensure their survival is to pursue nuclear armaments.

The real question though, is what Hillary Clinton thinks she can achieve through throwing unveiled threats around and destabilising the fragile global system? Is she so fervently committed to expensive and bloody foreign interventionism that she is willing to risk creating a global diplomatic and political crisis in order to get what she wants? How far will she go to force the American agenda? Regional war? Global trade war? World war?

My guess is that her threats are completely hollow.

 


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Sun, 07/08/2012 - 00:52 | Link to Comment prole
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Reality check Comrade: He was no coward. He, along with those who burned draft cards and flad to Canada were the only ones who WERE NOT cowards. The cowards hung their heads low, obeyed their Jewish masters and slunk off in chains to get ground up as cannon fodder in SE Asia, in a war that absolutely did not concern them (those who truly were gung-ho or military = by choice so not cowards)

We know the sons of Privelege refused to get their asses blown off in SE Asia, so while you call ali a coward, do you also call Romnel, Shrub II, Krinkton, Cheney, Trotskyite Bill Kristol basically all the Commies and Neo-Cons except Texas gov and MCcain, all avoided combat 100% just like Ali, so please don't selectively call one a coward, your comment on this point pls?

OK so we know the sons of privelege refused OUTRIGHT (like Ali) to serve into any danger whatsoever, so if the rest of the untermensch (prole six packs) had refused like Ali to be enslaved, then the real Traitors McNamara and Johnson and Lord Kissinger would have had to grab a bunch of M-16s and taken on Ho Chi Minh by themselves.

And that brother is some footage I would paid to see

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 22:48 | Link to Comment MrPalladium
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Not so!! But if they have an AFQT score that puts them in the top 10% they will never have to carry a rifle or be exposed to fire unless they request it. Brain power is more valuable back at base camp.

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 00:56 | Link to Comment Socialized Losses
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 True, however: being from wealthy parents doesn't make you smart on the AFQT. Army democratization of aptitude may see your previously privileged palms digging foxholes.

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 11:09 | Link to Comment knightowl77
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Aziz "Skin in the game — you start a war you fight a war. And your kids. And your friends kids. Would cut the number of unnecessary wars drastically."

 

Throughout history that is the way it was done and there were still plenty of unnecessary wars...The Crusades and other (mis-)adventures were led by kings and other "nobility"....To the victor, go the spoils.

Though when the king went into battle and lost, he often died or was captured...So that would be a plus, but it wouldn't limit any wars or make them any less frequent

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 21:35 | Link to Comment AetosAeros
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That sort of thinking, whether coming from you or the General who floated the same idea, in the same way, last week; is ignorant and nothing more than a shill approach to get more young people killed for 'der faderland'.

 

Or did you miss how well it worked in Korea and Vietnam: 1) Have a draft 2)have a draft board who only picks certain 'disadvantaged youth' 3) give breaks to those who are 'special', then send them to a hell hole country based on lies, trumped up chest beating evidence, and routinely assault the same hill over and over until the quota for herd reduction has been met.

How about we DON'T have a war and instead hang some motherfuckers in DC who keep beating that drum trying to get a primordial response out of the few left in herd who still have some nuts.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 21:54 | Link to Comment Dr. Engali
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I agree with you 100%. However there is more than just generals floating the idea of a draft. I think it's coming eventually. There are a lot of young unemployed males running around that DC is going to want to deal with. What better way than to kill them off? Hopefully this time things will be different.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 22:35 | Link to Comment Lucky Guesst
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I got news for everybody... At the rate vaccines are causing hyperimmunity /ASTHMA, in a couple years NOBODY will be eligible!!!!!

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 22:47 | Link to Comment Dr. Engali
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You have a good point there.

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 10:34 | Link to Comment Lucius Corneliu...
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The military doesn't want a draft becasuse they will bring people with too much baggage (attitude),  Besides,  it takes too much time and money to train somebody for modern warfare.  The Establishment knows that the wars are not popular so a draft will throw gasoline on the anti-war movement.  So I think a draft would be used only as a last ditch act of desperation once the $10M dollar missiles have run out and there is no more money in the bank to replenish their store.

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 10:24 | Link to Comment itstippy
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It costs $1M annual to put a pair of U.S.A. combat boots on the ground in Afghanistan.  Morality and patriotism aside, it's worth considering the idea of not having a war for purely economic reasons.  Zerohedge is primarily an economic website, after all.

90% of America cheered as they watched CNN News footage of cruise missiles and smart bombs pummeling Iraqi infrastructure during Shock And Awe.  CNN didn't mention that U.S. citizens would some day have to pay for all that ungodly expensive hardware, and that the high tech hardware was just a small portion of the total expense of our little adventure. 

Instead we were told the Iraq war would pay for itself through lucrative rebuilding contracts and cheap oil.  Kick their ass and take their gas!  Nations who refused to participate in our "Coalition Of The Willing" would be denied the future rebuilding contracts and the cheap oil.  "Freedom Fries" replaced "French Fries" in the Congressional caffeteria.  What a trumped-up bunch of patriotic jingoistic bullshit.    

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 22:04 | Link to Comment Lucky Guesst
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How about we vote on it and if the majority says yes to war not until every kid/grandkid/niece/nephew of theirs has gone to war will the no voters have to give up theirs!!!!!

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 14:37 | Link to Comment prole
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Sounds fair, but in realititty any sheople who voted for Bush1, Krinkton, The ShrubII, Gwhore, John Cohen, Obomba, or who votes upcoming for Obomba or Romnel is voting openly for Voluntary servitude to Israel and war. (And that was Just about everybody)

Only the RP vote was against war, and that was a minority.

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 09:11 | Link to Comment my puppy for prez
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Speaking of Krauthammer....

I was visiting my parents on or around the 4th, and they were watching Fox News (cringe).  They were discussing the drones over the US.  Charles was expressing concern, and that is when he said that the drones could be fitted with missiles "LIKE ON 9/11".

He actually said this!  My mom and I both caught it (she is newly awake regarding the 9/11 false flag), and she was freaking out.  I wish I could find that clip somewhere.  He really slipped up with that one!  Of course, they went on like nothing unusual was said.  

Missiles on 9/11....hmmmm....

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 11:18 | Link to Comment knightowl77
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far be it for me to defend Krauthammer, but he was talking about drones/unmanned planes over the USA being hacked and hijacked which could then be flown into buildings like on 9-11....His point was -drones over the USA is not a good idea....a point we all could agree on....I would expand that to NO drones anywhere

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 21:02 | Link to Comment jamezelle
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almost junked you until I realized it was sarc

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 21:28 | Link to Comment MeelionDollerBogus
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heh-heh Aziz channeling MillionDollarBonusomics

#winning

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 21:23 | Link to Comment HungrySeagull
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I thought about that.

And thought about it again and again.

If Israel was not in the mix, I would say "Fuckit, let them sort it out."

It would be nice to simply ship everything home to the CONUS and let Europe and others take care of own Defenses.

We do however have a Navy, and with it; The United States Marine Corps.

We don't sit home reading the papers for that you know.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 21:25 | Link to Comment dark pools of soros
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umm there is no fight without us (CIA/Mossad/NATO)

 

no civil war just like Libya

 

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 20:39 | Link to Comment F. Bastiat
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Hilary Clinton's a fraud; she intimidates no one.  And neither does her boss.

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 01:20 | Link to Comment Cathartes Aura
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Hilary Clinton is a well compensated employee who has been playing the power game for decades, climbing the ladder, tolerating her "husband" as she moves on up. . .

she also gives you boys a female to focus your diatribes, all the sexual hatred and verbiage, all the many ways you can show your lack of real critical thinking about issues, situations, a distraction right down the threads, completely unnecessary sexually laced bullshit.

Hilary Clinton - working as intended.

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 02:57 | Link to Comment AnAnonymous
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Her top boss is US citizen middle class.

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 10:47 | Link to Comment F. Bastiat
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That's a rather silly statement with absolutely no basis in facts or truth.

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 13:21 | Link to Comment Temporalist
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Regarding the gender argument; people on ZH call everyone deserving a cunt so I don't see the problem.  I don't think there is any more animosity directed at her than at her husband, or the Bushes or any government sellout.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 20:42 | Link to Comment wandstrasse
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petrodollar challenged -> lies, propaganda, threats, sanctions, war.

 

rinse, repeat.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 20:43 | Link to Comment Yen Cross
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 Russia never had a price to pay! They never truly emerged from " Perestroika"

   China? A country with 1.23 billion people can't find a banking mechanism to fill their ghost cities? I smell fear!

 China has rebanded the ( cyn/usd fixing) on a 5% rate, up from 3% recently. I suggest people look at the reason why PBoC did that! It wasn't for Usd/Cyn trade relations! 

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 22:10 | Link to Comment johny2
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Russia was always ready to pay the price, 25 million of lives compared to 350 thousands for example.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 20:43 | Link to Comment dick cheneys ghost
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The United States of the PetroDollar

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 20:55 | Link to Comment Oldrepublic
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Hubris , also hybris, means extreme pride or arrogance. Hubris often indicates a loss of contact with reality and an overestimation of one's own competence or capabilities, especially when the person exhibiting it is in a position of power.

leads to:

 Nemesis (Greek), also called Rhamnousia/Rhamnusia ("the goddess of Rhamnous") at her sanctuary at Rhamnous, north of Marathon, was the spirit of divine retribution against those who succumb to hubris (arrogance before the gods)

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 00:46 | Link to Comment Seer
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I miss Chalmbers Johnson...

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 20:45 | Link to Comment sitenine
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Clinton will start WWIII.  It's not what she want's (or maybe it is), but she's just not smart enough to avoid it.  She fucked up in Egypt.  She fucked up in Libya.  Now she's fucking up in Syria.  All this in preparation to fuck up beyond all recognition in Iran.  Way to go Team Obama.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 21:00 | Link to Comment Dr. Engali
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It's all part of the plan in the resource wars. Next stop global population 500 million.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 21:26 | Link to Comment MeelionDollerBogus
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Given how many species including most that cause disease to us have all evolved in balance with several billion humans, if we drop to 500 million we'll soon be at zero. One plague is all it will take because the diversity of immunity response will be too small to allow any chance for survivors to continue the species.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 22:40 | Link to Comment mjk0259
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We already survived at much lower levels than 500 million and there probably would not be any planes or much travel.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 23:52 | Link to Comment CrashisOptimistic
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Who is we?  You won't be one of the 500 million (the correct number is 800, btw).

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 00:48 | Link to Comment Seer
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"Team Obama," just like "Team Bush," just like "Team Clinton"...  What's common?  TPTB.  Know how to stop them?  QUIT USING THEIR SYSTEM!

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 01:25 | Link to Comment Cathartes Aura
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do you really believe what you just typed??

do you really believe that Hilary Clinton has the power to start WW3??  and will do it because she's not "smart enough to avoid it"?  like it's an accident, and no one can stop her?  and it's all "Team Obama" in charge?

already a dozen upvotes. . .fuck me, I honestly expected more from this place. . .

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 18:35 | Link to Comment sitenine
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Yes, of course I believe that.  What started WWI?  WWII?  It doesn't take all that much to start a war, don't you know?  All it takes is a little stupidity and a propensity to never back down.  Furthermore, my comment is not about her starting anything single handed (ever heard of hyperbole?), I'm speaking more simply about the yen and the yang.  The World needs balance, and forcing it to bend to one order will bring about epic chaos.  It's not about stopping the bitch either.  Seriously, if she wasn't the one fucking up, it would be someone else even more bullheaded.  Cathartes Aura, I'm astounded at the number of commentators getting sanctimonious around here lately.  The system is fucked, and we are all going to suffer sooner rather than later, but you would rather criticize a comment because of an irresistible and meaningless knee jerk reaction to respond instead of thinking for yourself.  "Team President" has been accelerating its consolidation of power over your life and your livelihood for your entire lifetime and then some.  I find it absolutely offensive that you would question Obama being in charge.  He's the President, so yeah, fuck you for expecting more from this place.

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 15:34 | Link to Comment DosZap
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She fucked up in Egypt. She fucked up in Libya. Now she's fucking up in Syria. All this in preparation to fuck up beyond all recognition in Iran. Way to go Team Obama.

 Think so?,not me, its all pre-planned. Remember the Islamic Sharia creed,and their ultimate goal, what you call F-UPS are simply allowing EXPANSION of what is desired by people here,in HIGH places.

Can you BOW now?.LIKE THE one?.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 20:45 | Link to Comment Itch
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more women in politics, they never shout their mouths off, estrogen will bring world peace, because women dont have dicks! (yes but the ones in poltics do)

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 20:50 | Link to Comment Aziz
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Yeah, I love how Hillary's war-mongering debunks the "we need more women in politics for world peace" argument.

It's about the only good thing about her.

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 00:56 | Link to Comment Seer
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Were you saying the same for Condoleezza?  Heck, and she was/is black to boot!

In fairness, the Dems didn't vote in Hillary, just as the Repubs didn't vote in Condoleezza.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 20:50 | Link to Comment Yen Cross
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 Are you kidding me? I have no objection to Women in politics, but women are just as " Vociferous" as their Male counterparts!

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 01:28 | Link to Comment Cathartes Aura
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"dicks" are in the job description - clue.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 20:53 | Link to Comment Tom Green Swedish
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Clinton(s) are insane and need to go to the mental asylum.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 22:11 | Link to Comment Lucky Guesst
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and best buds Bill and Melinda need to be right there with them

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 20:55 | Link to Comment apberusdisvet
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The latest Bilderberg, CFA, Trilateral Commission stooge.  Her head will look good rolling away from the guillotine.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 20:57 | Link to Comment bob_dabolina
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Menapause redux

Ignore these callow nothings.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 20:59 | Link to Comment orangegeek
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Clinton is making a statement about a process that is already in play.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 20:59 | Link to Comment Snakeeyes
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Being the criminal Clintons, she was probably referring to China and Russia paying ... into her Presidential campaign,

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 21:03 | Link to Comment LeisureSmith
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The way to(war with) Iran goes through Syria... Her masters are getting impatient, the chaos is not complete. I can't stand her fucking face.

Fuck Hitlary Clinton.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 23:08 | Link to Comment Peter Pan
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Leisure Smith you said:

"Fuck Hitlary Clinton"

Now that's what I call a true act of desperation.

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 00:36 | Link to Comment LowProfile
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Dammit, torture is morally abhorrent!

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 21:04 | Link to Comment Jack Burton
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The Clinton bitch is a whore for the US military establishment. She trows around threats and lies like a bitch. Why would any nation with a shred of self respect even allow this liar whore and war monger on their soil?

Were I Putin, I would send the Moscow police to arrest this bitch the minute she stepped of the plane. The charge would be war crimes, crimes against humanity and terrorist threats.

Whenever that whore's mouth opens it is only to promise murder and mayhem in the name of the New World Order. She threatens death to anyone not doing what the USA Neo-Con thugs demand, and much of her killing is done in the name of her boss, the state of Israel. She is like a puppet on a string, Israeli makes her dance and issue threats as if she were a puppet.

Enough of this CLinton war monger. China and Russia should issue arrest warents sharging her with being the world's biggest terrorits mouthpiece.

She is a disgrace.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 21:07 | Link to Comment Dr. Engali
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I'm not sure I quite get how you feel about her. Would you care to elaborate a little bit? ;->

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 21:20 | Link to Comment Yen Cross
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 I suspect we are speaking to a Woman , of conviction Dr. Engali.

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 18:05 | Link to Comment Tom Green Swedish
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Clinton / Palin for Emperor 2016.  At least the Russians and Chinese don't let their women speak on these matters.  Really, Hillary if you are so passionate about war why don't you get some fatigues on shave your head and pick up a ACR.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 22:02 | Link to Comment ZeroAvatar
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Had Obummer not made Pres, Hitlary would never have been on the scene.  She's just part of his Court of Jesters.  So sad.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 23:54 | Link to Comment CrashisOptimistic
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Blink.

Had he not been president, she would have been.  He stole the nomination from her.  Amid the apocalypse, any Democrat would have won in 2008. 

Frankly, she was cheated.  It should have been hers.

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 01:34 | Link to Comment Yen Cross
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 You are and will be a liberal " Douche Bag". I'm your ghost! You can't survive in the " light of a trading day"!

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 21:07 | Link to Comment HungrySeagull
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This is getting rather complicated on several levels.

Iran will like nothing more than to see the USA fight Russia and/or China over a bit of Dirt that has been fought over for a long time.

If memory serves the USS New Jersey pounded positions in Lebanon around 1983 or so and was no longer trying to be neutral.

We would pay for that with the Barracks Bombing. It was probably something as simple as pressurized tanks concentrated in a vault with a spark of something to light the whole thing.

That is one example. For everything either Israel or the USA tried to do, Iran and proxy's have worked against us.

We might very well have a limited hot war or a spiraling all out world war three.

Until then, it does not serve anyone well to through threats around... unless the USA is working to ensure that it can follow through with effective military action which will be seen as a Act of War by Iran and all others.

I think if there is going to be war this year or next, it may very well be good for the United States to bring the CONUS/Alaska/Hawaii Military up to speed because we may very well be facing the Blackjacks. It wont take very much at all to cut off the US People from the Government which will lead to trouble. (And vice versa.)

The better way is to maintain trade with Russia and China that benefits both sides and maintain communication.

How is it said? Keep our friends close but keep our enemies closer.

I would like nothing more than a total refusal and a total overthrow of the current Government in Iran by the People of Iran. That will be the path to their own salvation.

As far as Clinton is concerned, I think a review of the "Clinton Papers" would be in order when she was a College Kid.

I refuse to accept that a Syrian Revolt against Assad as somehow a reason to threaten China and Russia over something they probably have not yet done.

Iran would truly be the trouble maker and Clinton would have to be put on a leash.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 21:23 | Link to Comment LeisureSmith
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I don't think Iran want an open conflict between the US and China/Russia. The potential for nukes to enter into the mix is clear to iranians too. Unless they have a secret stash of factor 10 Billion sunblock and plenty of it...but then there is the fallout and the no atmosphere thing. Never mind.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 23:01 | Link to Comment FeralSerf
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Send the Jooze kids first.  They're anxious to go to war with Assad.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 21:08 | Link to Comment CPL
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Diplomat brats are online now.  Army Brat are online.  We know this business, time to stop the business.  We all know better than they.

 

They are all going to die.  No if.  Buts.  Or what.

 

Make your peace, wish for a dream.  Ladies and gentleman.  It is time...to hunt our parents.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 21:14 | Link to Comment CPL
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Sorry inadvance, you grand children are the bait.

 

This really sucks...a lot..but you have masters....you aren't them.  You all might want to phone home.  The call came.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 21:17 | Link to Comment CPL
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Thank you for everything.

 

Sorry from your families in advance the call came.  You helped.  And we love you.  Sorry again.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 21:20 | Link to Comment CPL
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The game is coming.  You can feel it now.  It creeps along the back of your skulls...you know the outcome...the awesome shock.  Not of tech, but of who...the children show you...before you go.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 21:28 | Link to Comment CPL
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You all will stand down for your grand children.

 

Every.  Last. One.  Of.  You.

 

We traveled the world with you, put up with the drunk, the violence, the asshole facts.  You will not have a genetice future after 11 pm est.

Better to die from the shit show you have left ALL of us than keep the family running.  This.  Is.  Done. 

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 21:40 | Link to Comment CPL
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We all learned and built on what our parents know.

 

Unless..you know what has to be done.  Or we will do it for you.  We are built to do it.  You always hesitate.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 21:45 | Link to Comment CPL
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Did you enjoy the last family dinner.

 

That's the last you will ever see.  Ever.  We don't need you because this is what you offer?  Seriously?  Please kill us all.  Imprison us.  Please.  You don't need a future.  You don't need anything, that's is how important you all are.  You are that awesome.  You should plant a tree for the occassion.  I know that the tree's we planted..worthless...you don't make, or know...you are all invisible to your grandchildren now.

 

We sort of knew some one...  who really knew them...who wished to know them.  Them used to work for some one.  not sure what company though.  Fuck it's foggy.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 21:50 | Link to Comment CPL
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Mum, Dad...I love you.  All of you that taught me or the road.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 22:04 | Link to Comment CPL
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Stop fighting.

 

Stop.  You know what needs to be done.  We didn't ask for your business, but you have made it your children's business and by proxy you grandchildren's buisness.  We will throw ourselves in front of a bus.  We are the bravery our parents did not have.  You can be parent again if you wish...because from this angle it appears that you must be the masters of the world...all we asked is you hang out with us Mum and Dad.

 

The world can wait and belive me, we push and shove to find our place, but you've set the situation up where my kids have to suck a bankers cock for a millenia.  Please.  I won't rather die of bot flies.  I could seriously offer your grand children the fact you live and walk the planet as a human being.  It's something that has stuck me as odd, we were alway placed on a third tier back burneer but as soon as something else pops up like a grand child everyone gets forgiveness. 

 

Not.  This.  Time.

 

You are all, all foreign affairs fuckers cursed to firing blanks.  My curse to you all.  You should never have children again.  To those that fucked it all up.  no more.  Curse to you and yours.  The tree stops as far as you can see in a family tree for thee.

oxoxox

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 22:13 | Link to Comment CPL
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With your children out of the way you can raise your grand children.  Are you all ready for that?  I hope so.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 22:25 | Link to Comment CPL
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Now I open.  Tick tock...tick tock.

From 11pm on you shall all be know as past tense grand parents.  They died.  No body knows what happened to them. 

 

tick tock.  Resolve it.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 22:29 | Link to Comment Lucky Guesst
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Drunk posting again?

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 22:55 | Link to Comment CPL
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You have no children stranger.

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 01:37 | Link to Comment Yen Cross
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CPL  Thank God you aren't indoctrinated

   Now it's time to really learn how to read charts!

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 22:56 | Link to Comment Dr. Engali
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No he's sober tonight. You should see him when he's drunk. I didn't think it was possible to slur your words with a keyboard.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 21:07 | Link to Comment JmanSilver.Gold
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wow, this fucking wacko liberal cunt is playing with fire, and probably doesnt even realize it.  Or even more scary, maybe she does.

Throwing down the gauntlet in front of Vlad and Hu.  NOT wise given the nature of UST gigantic ponzi-castle.   Hu can flick a switch and end the petro dollar if he wanted to, and China wouldnt have to even break a sweat.

Desperate liberals doing desperate things to save their sacred ponzi party.  NO Libya 2 Hitlary, deal with it.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 21:19 | Link to Comment Jack Burton
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Good point JmanSilver.Gold!  The threats MS Clinton issues are a fucking joke! China and Russia could muster some of their friends and jointly go after the Petro Dollar as World Reserve Currency.

Imagine for just a second what happens to the USA if they were forced to use a real currency to buy their oil, arms and vast array of consumer imports! The world would end in a flash if the USA could no longer simply print dollars and pass them around the world in exchange for oil and consumer goods.

SImply think about it! The ability to print dollars to infinity and have them accepted as if they were a store of value is all the USA has left to maintain it's global empire and vast killing machine. Even the secret torture prisons filled to overflowing with anyone the USA designates as anti US would have trouble paying the guards and torturers their monthly paychecks.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 21:50 | Link to Comment Yen Cross
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 Hey Jack, when you're done with those "48" reruns , and your sex change give me a call.

  China and Russias' friends? Hmmm, lets postulate<>  Syria,Iran, MyanPORE, And a rogue part of South America.

Ok you can have VietNam and Cambodia  in exchange For S.Korea and the Phillipines.

 

  Hey jack, just out of curossity, who is financing all of the " so called" emerging market economies, outside of Africa? Hey Jack who finances the majority of global oil exploration?

 

    Point number three Jack; Who finances the electricity for you to make your outlandish remarks? Have you ever been to North Korea, Myanmar,China, Cuba, Russia, Syria, Ect../ Jack? 

      Jack don't work that stubbie too hard tonight!   You are an Idiot J/B I was in agreement with you!

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 13:38 | Link to Comment Temporalist
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Oh Yen you're so right; China didn't just sign currency agreements with a dozen countries to circumvent dollar swapping in the Chiang Mai Initiative.  Neither has Russia.

China expands its currency-swap geography

http://www.terradaily.com/reports/China_expands_its_currency_swap_geogra...

Currency swap deal between Turkey & Russia in agenda

http://www.businessturkeytoday.com/currency-swap-deal-between-turkey-rus...

 

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 01:42 | Link to Comment Yen Cross
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 Hey Jack Burton / isn't always offensive. Typical wanabe/ GIRLS are so " Fickle'.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 21:15 | Link to Comment otto skorzeny
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putin is having a good laugh over this dyke's bravado

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 21:28 | Link to Comment HungrySeagull
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I don't know what Putin thinks... but I bet Putin will simply turn up the heat to see if there is any sweat on the brow of his adversarys.

And Hu? A wave of his hand can bring millions of boots on the ground. We need 6 months to a year to curse and beat our pacifist fighting age draftees to the front.

Now I am not even sure if we can do it. Not without silencing all those who dare protest.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 21:16 | Link to Comment walcott
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about time somebody tells Russia and China to fuck off.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 21:23 | Link to Comment Jack Burton
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About time the world's biggest murder was told to fuck off. Tell the Clinton whore to piss off! She speaks what the Neo-Con killers tell her to, she speaks what her Israeli bosses tell her to. As if this cunt had a mind of her own!

Unlikely this bitch goes down in history as anything but the mouthpeace for murder incorporated. "War on Terror", that's a laugh coming from Clinton who is the biggest terrorist around. Just take a body count of how many die when Clinton gets her way. Fucking murdering whore!

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 21:26 | Link to Comment FleaMarketPete
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Wait Clinton is a neo-con now?  

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 22:25 | Link to Comment dwdollar
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What cave have you been living in? The foreign policy difference between Bush and Obama is exactly 0.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 22:48 | Link to Comment Acorn10012
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Bush was a liberal...no child left behnd, Medicare Part C.......

And O won the peace prize...nobody has the bloodlust like a lib

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 23:58 | Link to Comment FeralSerf
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Neither Obama or Bush are liberals.  Jefferson and Madison were liberals. B&O are neo-liberals which are pretty much the same as neo-conservatives or neo-fascists for that matter.

The Nobel Peace Prize is a political statement by the Power Elites that are in control of the Nobel selection process.  Menachem Begin won it too and he's not sanely considered a liberal.

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 00:47 | Link to Comment otto skorzeny
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"Champagne Socialists" ia a better term for them-one of Hugh hendry's best lines (and that dude is about to get PAAAAAAID when Jap/Chin roll over and die)

 

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 06:39 | Link to Comment WTFx10
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The foreign policy is the same because they both come out of Israel.

Follow the money, everything else is just a diversion.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 23:05 | Link to Comment FeralSerf
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Always was.  Remember Serbia, Albright and the Iraqi dead kids?

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 22:00 | Link to Comment Yen Cross
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 You need help! So do your Friday Night (freakshow) followers!

  I don't care for the Clintons, but you are officially certifiable!

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 11:36 | Link to Comment knightowl77
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Where on earth do you get your facts? We have killed indeed, but the Russians, Chinese and others have killed way more.....

 

There is no moral equivalence here, no matter you were taught in the public schools....

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 21:30 | Link to Comment HungrySeagull
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Times have changed Walcott.

We can still tell Russia and China to fuck off but it's gonna hurt come the morning.

Who was it that said this a long time ago?

Oh yes, Tzu. Before making war, count the cost.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 23:14 | Link to Comment Peter Pan
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Walcott you said:

"about time somebody tells Russia and China to fuck off."

I suggest you buy two one way tickets to China and Russia for yourself and the other fellow who voted for you and show us how to do it.

Syria's president may not be the nicest fellow on the planet but there are limits to meddling. Imagine the middle east attacking the USA for any perceived wrongdoing to "Muslim Brothers and Sisters" who reside in the USA.

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 05:35 | Link to Comment walcott
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simple. Fuck you China and Fuck you Russia. Not saying American people are great. They're 99% demagogues like the muslims.

Mob mentality rules the day in this shithole reality which is horrible. China and Russia want to be king rats in the cage.

Think that will make anything better? 

The most creative thinker's I've seen so far are the muslims who are making themselves up to appear dead and then video taping themselves waking up.

That says fuck you to everybody and is funny as hell too.  Think people! we've all been conditioned and screwed equally. And imaginary bearded dude floating around in the sky isn't going to save you.

Break free from that shit and realize your potential and realize that the entire murderous pyramid  power structure is set up that way to keep you hatefully stupid and desperately ensalved.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 21:19 | Link to Comment janus
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now is the time for all good keynsians to come to the aid of world-war for the sake of their currency.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDpWurAGRsY&feature=related

there's a something i know/

and i'm younger than you/

that even Jesus would never/

forgive what you do,

janus

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 21:29 | Link to Comment grunk
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Syria Nam.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 21:33 | Link to Comment HungrySeagull
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No, if Afghanistan is the "Rockpile"

No if Iraq is the "Sandpit"

I would call Syria "BigDirt" similar to what we kids worked hard to build for BMX style bikes to jump to break our skulls open.

(I have taken some incredible wrecks... except for a few lumps and bumps... it's a wonder how we stupid kids survived...)

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 21:33 | Link to Comment MrBoompi
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Even a cornered rabbit can be dangerous.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 22:00 | Link to Comment El Tuco
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Your right, remember the one that tried to attack Carter while he was in a row boat.....

 

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 22:28 | Link to Comment ali-ali-al-qomfri
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Caerbannog, with a mean streak a mile wide,......look at bones...

 

http://www.thinkgeek.com/geektoys/plush/778d/

 

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 21:39 | Link to Comment lynnybee
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i'm so sick of these CLINTONS i could just puke.    when will they give up & retire; how did BILL CLINTON go from making $35,000 / year as Governor of Alabama to being worth over $15,000,000 ?      Criminality sure does pay well !    

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 23:04 | Link to Comment delacroix
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I liked the clintons better, when they were just thieves and drug dealers, of course, that didn't work out so well for vince foster.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 23:15 | Link to Comment Yen Cross
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lynnybee quit living in the past!   You seem like a "  Person/Woman" that is stepping out.

  Get off the couch and get involved! Quit watching kids be indoctrinated, into not making decisions.                                           Start learning how precious winning is!

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 21:40 | Link to Comment A Lunatic
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What if they wanted a war and no one was around who gave a fuck...................?

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 06:35 | Link to Comment WTFx10
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Nuke the BIS?

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 21:42 | Link to Comment wagthetails
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she's absolutely correct, except not a single nation will back this up.  Clinton will see that although she critized prior admin for war in Iraq w/o complete global approval, she is in the same situation here.  Its tough when you actually have to run the show, eh Mrs. Clinton.  But then again, she may be much smarter than i give her credit.  She knows full well the rest of the world is weak and will never stand up to a bully regime...so this way, she can talk a big game, but knows nothing will ever happen.  well played indeed. 

The UN (and EU) didn't care about genocide in Bosnia, doesn't care about the genocide in africa, and won't care about Syrians using children as human shields here.  Fuck them all.  not that i'm advocating war, but a simple united comdemnation would be nice.  I don't really expect our EU friends to fight for anything...except maybe to retire at 60.   

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 22:21 | Link to Comment Lucius Corneliu...
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Its pretty tough to know who the enemy is in Syria.  The CIA armed "rebels" are causing instability and mayhem.  Who knows how this got started.

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 01:41 | Link to Comment Lucky Guesst
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You're right. Everytime I see or read something about Syria I think... yeah but is that us pretending to be them or them pretending to be us.

Maybe now its us pretending to be them pretending to be us. Who the cuss knows anymore?

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 23:53 | Link to Comment Lednbrass
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Correct eh? I will never understand why progressives think it is the proper place of the US government to make the world fair like some kind of freaking playground monitor.

 

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 01:45 | Link to Comment EverythingEviL
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Do you actually think they want the world to be FAIR? You are the one being fooled the most by this garbage. As if the whole world doesn't know it already, they play the good cop in front of the world, on the big stage, and in the media, while behind the scenes they are doing everything known and unknown to man to crush their enemies and tilt the odds in THEIR favor. Fair to these guys is for suckers. They don't care about anyone but themselves, not even the masses of their own country. Everything they do is in their own interests, the good cop routine is obviously just a show and people just eat that shit up. Land of the free, home of the brave, and all the patriotic bs of any country is worthless. Human lives are nothing to these people, they will send you and your kids to war in a heartbeat if suits their purposes with no care whether they live or die.

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 08:48 | Link to Comment Umh
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It seems to me like the progressives want to flatten the rest of the world so that the US is on top again. Then they can help everybody out to show how nice they are.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 21:48 | Link to Comment WilliamShatner
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That fat, twisted psychopath makes me ill every time I see her face or hear her voice.

The way she cackled like a jackal when she found out Gaddafi had been killed should make anyone in the US very nervous.  This is the kind of people we have in charge of our country.

God help us.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 21:51 | Link to Comment Yen Cross
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 What in the hell do Russia and China paying a price , have to do with the Clintons? I can't stand the Clintons, and yet I have to sift through you cackling hens!

 

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 21:50 | Link to Comment All Out Of Bubblegum
Fri, 07/06/2012 - 22:02 | Link to Comment Yen Cross
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 Who cares? What's your point? Obama lived in Indonesia and ate dog meat! Who cares?

   Bush was the Haliburtons poster child. You people just "Rabble Rouse" about nothing!

  Show me some charts and trade ideas. Tell me why geopolitically, "Russia shuts off gas to Eastern Europe? Tell me why China lies about their (official CPi,PPi numbers). Tell me something?

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 22:28 | Link to Comment wretch
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Some people want to raise awareness and effect change.  You're looking for profitable ideas.  You are on a financial site, so I guess you win.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 22:38 | Link to Comment Yen Cross
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 I don't have a financial site! Nor do I advertise in any way!  Thanks for the compliment.

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 00:49 | Link to Comment otto skorzeny
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dog meat will seem pretty tasty in the near future

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 22:04 | Link to Comment EverythingEviL
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I don't give a damn about who wins these wars but one thing I will say. Even though the US and Russia are not in direct conflict, Russia is being defeated in all these recent proxy wars that they are fighting against the US and it's allies. Despite the US and it's financial problems there is nothing that will stop the US from its secret goals, whatever they may be. China and Russia would do well to heed her words, and I in no way condone or agree with anything the US is doing but just tell me one place where they are not accomplishing what they want? Egypts government, gone. Libyas government, gone. It's happening all over the middle east and if you think they are not pulling the strings then you need to pull your head out of your ass. They will get what they want in Syria too...just wait and see. I don't know how, but if they now want to come out and publicly threaten Russia and China then things are getting heavy. They'd better watch the fuck out.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 22:24 | Link to Comment Lucius Corneliu...
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I thiink Russia and China are sending a clear signal that American aggression will no longer be tolerated.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 22:41 | Link to Comment EverythingEviL
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And what are they going to do about it? They are losing. There are American and British coverts in Syria already. Assad is hanging on by a thread. Did you forget that when the Soviets were overthrown that they already had all those nukes? And you think the US had nothing to do with that? Like I said, I don't care who wins this thing...I'm just saying look at the track record of what's happened and what is currently happening.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 22:44 | Link to Comment mjk0259
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Europe depends on Russian gas. US depends on Chinese buying our debt and making most of our stuff. Russia declining rapidly but China is progressing faster than US on just about any measure except debt growth.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 22:51 | Link to Comment EverythingEviL
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What is your point? Do you think any of that matters if the US wants Assad overthrown?

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 23:57 | Link to Comment Lednbrass
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Syria is a sideshow, if things get serious the Russians and Chinese hold the cards that matter. Given that there is very little media that can be trusted, no way to say what is really happening in Syria in either direction beyond some fighting.

 

 

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 00:16 | Link to Comment EverythingEviL
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What cards do they hold exactly? And what good will it do for them?

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 01:58 | Link to Comment the tower
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Maybe Hillary et al are provoking a rift between the US and Russia/China that is too big to overcome.

Outcome? War? No.. No-one wants war. It would give all players the reason for de-globalization.

US politicians can then sell it to the people that "Americans must accept a huge drop in income and spending power, that entitlements will be minimized, and that everyone will be put to work, producing the cheap crap that China no longer delivers/is allowed to deliver".

Oh yes, and the US would not have to pay back any of its debts to China.

All players know the game is over, what is missing is a reason to leave the playing field without loss of face.

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 15:00 | Link to Comment prole
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Much as I dislike and revile everything EviL said in the above posts, it must be acknowledged that every point he made is true. Russia has been getting it up the behind since we started killing Christians in (the ehemalige) Yugoslavia and they did Fvking NOTHING.

Their new MO is to utter somewhat independent and sovereign statements, then bend over and take it up the bum.

Oh Russia how you have fallen!
I weep

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 15:50 | Link to Comment EverythingEviL
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Thank you.  The people who junked me above mistakenly think me for the US or against Russia.  Nothing could be further from the truth.  I'm merely stating what I observe to be taking place. 

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 01:30 | Link to Comment Lucius Corneliu...
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And what are they going to do about it?

The first thing they can do (have done?) is arm the Syrians.  I think they have already proved to have effective surface to air missiles.  I'm sure the Russians and Chinese have supplied Syria with enough to make their enemies think twice about violating their airspace with attack helicopters, drones and attack aircraft.  I'll bet the Syrian military is well stocked with 7.62s and rocket propelled grenades.  Where'd they get all that?  Just saying...


Sat, 07/07/2012 - 01:54 | Link to Comment EverythingEviL
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Wow, they shot down a Turkish jet. Do you think American fighter pilots are quaking in their boots over this? They could probably drop anything they wanted to on these guys without them ever knowing what hit them. Meanwhile Assad and his family are apparently huddled inside their palace with British and rebel forces knocking on their door. It's laughable to think that if the US wants him gone that they can't get rid of him one way or the other. I don't support one side or the other, I'm just saying the big dog gets what he wants.

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 02:09 | Link to Comment Lucius Corneliu...
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Maybe from altitude they may bomb with impunity, but not low level flight.  Russia wants its navy base and China wants to upstage the US in the Muslim world where they are doing quite well selling their wares and collecting natural resource agreements.  Plus, the "big dog" has lost a lot of credibility.  The US military is spread way too thin and the US government is virtually bankrupt.  Without the petrodollar there is no 5th fleet much less bases in Afghanistan or Iraq.  Guided bombs and missiles are expensive.  No, I think this "big dog" has more bark than bite.  Then again, maybe he does get what he wants again ... but then what?  and why?

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 02:47 | Link to Comment EverythingEviL
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That always the million dollar question. Why? Who knows...the simple fact is they get what they want for whatever reason. Afghanistan, why are we there in that wasteland? Who really knows? But it serves some purpose for them. We are nobodies to them and it doesn't matter. We only get to hear the cover story, terrorist hunting...right. More bark than bite? The military complex shits money, do you think because of China or Russia pulling some stunt that they are gonna somehow run out of fuel to attack another country? They have shit up their sleeves and weapons that we've never dreamed of. It's a bit naiive to think of a mechanized army as being spread too thin. In a "conventional" war, sure. But they just push buttons now and people die, it's just a matter of time or nescessity for these things to b used on a grander scale than ever before.

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 11:13 | Link to Comment Lucius Corneliu...
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You make a lot of good points.  I think the why is somehow linked to defending the petrodollar at all costs.  I'm certain that this has become the primary "National Security" concern, though you will never hear that from the MSM.  Somehow fighting to protect our ability to borrow doesn't have that patriotic appeal.  The public dimwits will be fooled into murdering others by anti-Muslim fear mongering and hate spewing.  "Progressives" and "Neocons" will fall in line for Murder, Inc.  Homeland Security will funnel money and resources to local police to keep the rest in line.  The Establishment knows that once the dollar collapses its game over.

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 11:27 | Link to Comment Lucius Corneliu...
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I think the "why" on Afghanistan is linked to 2 things; pipeline right of ways and natural resource exploitation.  I would guess that the mountains are rich in minerals but it will take some "stability" before the locals can be convinced (bribe) to exploit them.  Those damned locals just don't like outsiders and virtually none of them use ATMs or have SWIFT accounts.  So unfriendly, so uncivilized.

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 12:11 | Link to Comment Cathartes Aura
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the "locals" - and many of the invading forces - will be dead soon enough.  the depleted uranium and other poisons will see to that.

doubtful the poppy-drugs exported will spare the users either. . .

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 15:59 | Link to Comment EverythingEviL
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Funny you mention the poppies.  My wfie is from a country near there.  Her Dad recently told her that in all his life he has never seen the Poppy fields as huge as they are now.  Does anyone think our "Commanders", "CIA", or whoever runs that shit doesn't have a peice of the action?  I wonder if this may be as big a reason as any that we are there....just interesting.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 22:45 | Link to Comment A Lunatic
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Good. I look forward to the empty shelves at Wall-Mart.

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 15:10 | Link to Comment prole
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Why would you wish for that? Empty shelves at Walmart = higher prices for everyone in this country thus lower standard of living (below the rich, who don't shop there IMO)

Anyway you are not going to get your wish, but I don't understand why you would wish such a thing?

My personal opinion, is that when goods are moving freely (or somewhat freely, or "somewhat" freely) between China and USSA, in peaceful trade; then soldiers won't be moving back and forth in bloody combat. (Bastiat)

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 22:03 | Link to Comment americanspirit
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That's right - let's all focus on Hillary. Evil bitch. Loser cunt with a mustache. Meanwhile everybody else who's playing the game gets to operate in the shadows. Thank you Heeeleery.

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 01:40 | Link to Comment Cathartes Aura
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finally someone with a working mind.

peace.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 22:04 | Link to Comment rwe2late
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I think Hillary means to have everyone pay a price if they oppose remaking the world to what she myopically wishes it to be.

By means of full-spectrum dominance she hopes to avenge past purportedly unfair humiliations, silence her critics, and prove herself more than the equal of any man.

In short, she is insane, arrogant, and dangerous.

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 11:17 | Link to Comment Lucius Corneliu...
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In short, she is insane, arrogant, and dangerous.

 

And that's what qualifies her for the job.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 22:06 | Link to Comment grunk
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Pay a price?

What are we gonna do, sell them irradiated Treasury Notes?

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 23:58 | Link to Comment CrashisOptimistic
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People just don't understand the power of oil. 

The number one producer of oil in the world is NOT SAUDI ARABIA.  It is Russia.  They are getting paid $100ish/barrel for every one of the 10 million barrels they pump per day.

They are in a profoundly dominant position and Hillary cannot understand it.

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 06:24 | Link to Comment WTFx10
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People don't undersatnd the power of money over oil. The people who own the oil own the money.

Nuke the BIS?

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