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Guest Post: Should Obama And Congress Be Arrested Under The NDAA?

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Submitted by John Aziz of Azizonomics

Should Obama And Congress Be Arrested Under The NDAA?

Should President Obama (alongside Lindsay Graham and John McCain) be wearing an orange jumpsuit?

Welcome to the beautiful and surreal reality of life under American corporatism, under a Congress that churns out thousands  and thousands of pages of (often contradictory) legislation a year.

If providing material assistance to al-Qaeda is illegal under the National Defence Authorization Act (2012), and Obama and Congress are sending $25 million of aid to al-Qaeda-affiliated Syrian opposition, aren’t Congress and President Obama violating their own law? Should Obama (or at least the Justice Department) not be using “all necessary and appropriate force” including “the power to indefinitely detain” to prevent Obama and Congress from assisting al-Qaeda? Did anyone in Congress or the Obama administration even bother to read the law that they were signing? Do Federal laws no longer apply to lawmakers?

The only question left from this abrupt and absurd turnaround — from funding bin Laden’s mujahideen thirty years ago, to ten years ago declaring war on al-Qaeda, to today sending them material assistance — would appear to be whether or not Obama will pull a 1984 and claim that “we have always been at war with Eurasia“.

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Sat, 08/04/2012 - 21:26 | 2678800 CH1
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The better choice is to abandon them all - Blue and Red - and build our own world, OUR way.

The state is a barbaric institution from 5000 BC.

Really, how sane is it to obey people we know to be thieves and liars?

 

Sat, 08/04/2012 - 21:33 | 2678842 Michael
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I'm writing a book titled, "The Base" English translation from the Arabic Al-Qaeda.

Chapter 1 begins like this;

Call me Sheeple. It began some years ago when Arabic speaking people laughed their asses off at Americans whenever they heard the words Al-Qaeda. Where are all these Al-Qaeda bases located, they thought to themselves.

In Arabic, al-Qaeda has four syllables. However, the closest naturalized English pronunciations include /æl-ka-d/, /æl-ke-d/ Al-Qaeda's name can also be transliterated as al-Qaida, al-Qa'ida, el-Qaida, or al-Qaeda.

The name comes from the Arabic noun q'idah, which means foundation or basis, and can also refer to a military base. The initial al- is the Arabic definite article the, hence the base.

Bin Laden explained the origin of the term in a videotaped interview with Al Jazeera journalist Tayseer Alouni in October 2001:

The name 'al-Qaeda' was established a long time ago by mere chance. The late Abu Ebeida El-Banashiri established the training camps for our mujahedeen against Russia's terrorism. We used to call the training camp al-Qaeda. The name stayed.(That's as much as I can give you for now).

Sat, 08/04/2012 - 22:59 | 2678918 Precious
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We live in a county where the government approved pink slime.  What more do you need to know.

Sat, 08/04/2012 - 23:53 | 2678980 engineertheeconomy
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The United States Government is the largest Terrorist Organization in the entire  history of mankind

Sun, 08/05/2012 - 00:45 | 2679035 markmotive
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Plenty of others to throw in the cell too. The US is full of crooks that are clearly running this country for thier buddies.

http://www.planbeconomics.com/2012/08/03/foaming-the-runway-for-the-banks/

Sun, 08/05/2012 - 01:37 | 2679066 macholatte
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Allen West: Progressives are "communists"

http://www.therightscoop.com/west-i-dont-regret-whatsoever-my-comments-a...

 



Sun, 08/05/2012 - 07:36 | 2679191 GetZeeGold
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Should have been a pretty big clue when he screwed up the oath of office.

 

I have to swear to do WHAT?

 

Sun, 08/05/2012 - 13:26 | 2679652 DosZap
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Allen West: Progressives are "communists"

That just about sums it all up.

Sun, 08/05/2012 - 01:49 | 2679073 Buckaroo Banzai
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Our government is totally fucked, but it still doesn't come close to Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Hitler, and many others. We've had it lucky...so far.

Doesn't mean it can't get worse, that's the challenge we face today.

Sun, 08/05/2012 - 02:23 | 2679086 margaris
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Yes, imagine we were sitting in china posting such hateful comments about chinese state leaders... we would be thrown in some dark whole and shut-uped immediately.

I am glad we have "free speech"... but something tells me thats just a "temporary privilege" we recieved from our "generous masters"...

Also, what good is free speech if a lazy pathetic populace never translates it into free action?

 

But maybe thats our problem... we think we are so free and cool, just because we can laugh at our leaders! Yet we dont even create our own money.... who is laughing at who anyway, ... what a circus this is!

"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free"

Sun, 08/05/2012 - 05:54 | 2679152 WTFx10
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Most americans a too lazy to read.

Sun, 08/05/2012 - 07:38 | 2679193 GetZeeGold
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......still doesn't come close to Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot,

 

Yup, we need to kill about 30 million people to get there.....any volunteers?

Sun, 08/05/2012 - 09:47 | 2679289 Watauga
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Well, the U.S. isn't doing too badly in the murdering of innocent people category, considering over 50M children have been slaughtered since the detestable Supreme Court decision in Roe v. Wade.  The babies were not afforded any rights to defend themselves whatsoever.  The way I figure it, Mao, Stalin, Hitler, Pol Pot and the rest of the gang have nothing on us.

Sun, 08/05/2012 - 11:59 | 2679422 Uncle Remus
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I am 100% certain that there are far greater issues facing this country and this planet than abortion, overpopulation being in the Top Ten list. From the perspective espoused in your comment, I would have thought the a more detestable Supreme Court decision would have been the granting of person-hood to corporations. Imagine that, those lofty justices, sworn before God almighty, their hand on His Word, to uphold and defend the US Constitution, recognizing a legal construct as a "person", incapable really of being punished for its "sins" yet endowed with the ability to dispense "mercy" to its creators.

These corporate persons have the amazing ability to create virtually unlimited quantities of offspring and incest is practically sport. Their insatiable ability to fornicate, albeit metaphorically, does result in very real destroyed lives and abortions way beyond the "Biblical" connotation of the term. That seems to me more than just a little salt rubbed on the aborted fetus, wouldn't you say?

 

Sun, 08/05/2012 - 16:42 | 2680113 FrY10cK
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Have some repsect for fully grown. living woman who is carrying the fetus (not child). Show some compassion for the various medical crises that can make it necessary to, yes necessary, to get an abortion.

Or be a mindless extremest and stand outside Planned Parentihood and hurl insults at the suffering would-have been parents.

Religous wackos.

Mon, 08/06/2012 - 07:31 | 2681151 kralizec
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Infanticide whackos.  Like the PP clinic that botched the abortion and left the (formerly) living woman to die on the table and did not 911, that compassionate PP?

Sun, 08/05/2012 - 09:33 | 2679267 Papasmurf
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There's no reason to read when you can point to the Big Mac picture on the wall.

Sun, 08/05/2012 - 11:13 | 2679372 jerry_theking_lawler
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so, you are saying Egyptians (hieroglyphics) were actually more advanced than we are.......

Sun, 08/05/2012 - 10:00 | 2679295 Bobbyrib
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I saw a bunch of words on the screen, but didn't bother to read them. Can someone verbally tell me what WTFx10 wrote?

Sun, 08/05/2012 - 09:05 | 2679243 rwe2late
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Troops abroad working since Vietnam toward that 30 million total mentioned elsewhere,

world's biggest prison system, draconian laws, habeas corpus rescinded, torture, "black box" secrecy, trillion dollar payoffs to cronies,

but so long as we have "free speech", we're better off than was the Soviet Union,

so there's still time to do something,

maybe tomorrow,

or maybe we won't have to do anything,

or don't have to, because

it is never as bad as it could be.

Sun, 08/05/2012 - 09:21 | 2679256 General Decline
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Margaris wrote:

 

I am glad we have "free speech"... but something tells me thats just a "temporary privilege" we recieved from our "generous masters"...

 

Don't mistake free speach as it exists today as a "temporary privilege".  The only reason we have free speach (as well as the internet) it so they have the ability to categorize us. Tey want us all barking so their advanced super computers can assisign a priority nuber to us so they know who to lock up (or kill) first when the crash accelerated.   

 

Now I know I sound like an ultra parinoid tinfoil-hatter but after watching this garbage for the past decade +, that's the conclusion I have come to.  I have just moved up a notch on the list with this comment.

Sun, 08/05/2012 - 09:41 | 2679280 dark pools of soros
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Free speech as long as you don't do anything with. Laws are in place vs whatever constitutes as hate speech, anti semetic, bullying etc

Sun, 08/05/2012 - 13:15 | 2679623 robochess
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Very brave of you to do so. What will you do when you find out marc zuckerberg is actually a reincarnated minister of data collection for your government? Here's a good example: http://www.aclu.org/pizza/images/screen.swf

Sun, 08/05/2012 - 09:39 | 2679274 stock trout
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However I wonder how many readers are not posting critical comments of government and government officials because they know every comment is being scanned for anti-establishment viewpoints?

Just  the knowledge that you're being watched is loss of freedom of speech. Freedom is extremely fragile.

Sun, 08/05/2012 - 11:05 | 2679350 rwe2late
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 A police state does not require total surveillance.

That you may be being watched, that records which you cannot dispute can be produced if you are singled out, that you might be talking to an informant or agent, that you may be blacklisted, put on a 'no-fly' list or some list, that your family may suffer, that you could be questioned, audited, that you could be detained without habeas corpus, that you might be reported because of a grudge, envy, or some one's attempt at self-promotion, or because someone was compelled to "name names", or that just by some association you could automatically be guilty of the most draconian laws ...

all that could easily be construed as stifling freedom.

But fortunately in the USA,

"only the guilty want to hide anything"...

Sun, 08/05/2012 - 11:02 | 2679356 SteveOoooo
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B I N G O!

Sun, 08/05/2012 - 09:48 | 2679290 knightowl77
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Hell - if you use your Free Speech today and some group doesn't like what you said - they label you a "hater", a "racist", a "homophobe", a whatever......

Too many are marginalised, attacking the messenger and not the message....Political correctness has done much to shut down any opposition. If we want people to speak up, we need to eliminate this PC crap

Sun, 08/05/2012 - 10:15 | 2679301 Revert_Back_to_...
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When they give you a label as a 'hater', they are participating in a form of hate themselves 'name calling' and therefore are opposed against themselves and can be ignored.

"I am a hater and I hate you because you are a hater." - a HATER.

Where is the love?  We could at least try to take care of each other!

 

Sun, 08/05/2012 - 19:11 | 2680370 Michael
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Hell - if you use your Free Speech today and some group doesn't like what you said - they label you a "hater", a "racist", a "homophobe", a whatever......

These are extreme labels and I label people who use them as "Extremists". Fight fire with fire.

Sun, 08/05/2012 - 02:32 | 2679090 Harbanger
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We're 923 Executive orders closer to your list than before.  Four more years and we're done.

Sun, 08/05/2012 - 13:11 | 2679400 lesterbegood
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It's not a government. It is a private corporation masquerading as a government (Organic Act of 1871, 28 USC 3002). All US citizens/persons are bonded chattel of this corporation (HJR 192 c.1933).

The Bretton Woods Agreement of 1944 quit-claim deeded the DISTRICT OF COLOMBIA corporation to the IMF. The US flag is copywrited property of the BRITISH CROWN. US laws aka the UCC is copywrited British law.

The only lawful government in America today is the Republic for the united States of America.

http://republicfortheunitedstates.org

 

Sun, 08/05/2012 - 16:46 | 2680115 Revert_Back_to_...
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"Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes"

I like you guys...but...

You guys are a side effect of what is going on, not the solution.  Go read the Declaration of Independence.

"Legislative powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise;"

People who will not study history are doomed to repeat it.  That above line has an effect to.

"the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within."

The people who wrote that thing werre no pikers.   Read it! 

"For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies:
For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws, and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:"

Sound like the corporation that you guys are always complaining about? 

How did they handle that back then?

I will give you a hint.  Well read copies of Blackstones Commentaries and the Bible.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buiO1K_kRSg

Find out who you are.   Find out what one person can do.

If you find the right remedy, it will be simple, lawful, self apparent and the 'bad guys' will run away like little girls.

 

 

Sun, 08/05/2012 - 12:06 | 2679464 1100-TACTICAL-12
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30,000 drones, coming our way, cameras on every corner. Who's watching the watchers ?

Sun, 08/05/2012 - 04:33 | 2679133 StavropolJames
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I agree and also add that since the US government openly supports the terrorist group MEK (it's on the State Department list of recognized terrorist groups), and is working WITH al Qaeda plus countless others, anyone who give aid or support to the US Government is guilty under the NDAA and must be punished. 

So, don't support the US government by paying taxes because it's against the law (NDAA)

And don't vote or work on the Novemeber election because that's against the law, too.

The US Government could relieve this confusion if they would just post a list of terrorist organizations we can support and ones we can't support.  Or should I say, which lies to believe and which lies not to believe?

Sun, 08/05/2012 - 09:45 | 2679288 dark pools of soros
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Americorp is ran as big business and the bosses want it both ways since planning is too much work

Sun, 08/05/2012 - 05:13 | 2679142 _ConanTheLibert...
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so basicly they are trolls (terrorists accusing others for being terrorists)

Sun, 08/05/2012 - 09:31 | 2679264 Revert_Back_to_...
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How can you have a war on terrorisim when war itself is terrorism? - Howard Zinn

He wasn't kidding when he gave this speech. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhZk8ronces

Listen at around 1:40..hey he was the original conspiracy theroist.

Just two years after he was gone the Coinage Act of 1965 was passed.

Ended 172 years of a 'Dollar' that was defined as a weight of silver.

For 172 years, that amount never changed.   That is one of the reasons the USA was so sucessful.

The Eagle was the unit of weight and measure for gold coin.

 

Sun, 08/05/2012 - 05:59 | 2679151 WTFx10
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They take their orders from their leader Israel and the owner of that piss ant state the ROTHSCHILDS. Why does it continue?

What has Iran done to the USA? They stopped exporting pistashio nuts to us back in 80.

They do not belong to the ROTHSCHILDS Criminal Banking syndicate, if you dont belong you can't be controlled.

NO NATION would go to war with a BANK as who would fund it? But all Nations should?

Sun, 08/05/2012 - 00:30 | 2679020 Peter Pan
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That pink slime at least tasted alright until the truth became known. But what about the slime that supposedly should be providing leadership to a nation that has spent itself broke making enemies and has reduced its nation to an unemployed mass of food stamp dependent citizens who are refused the right to even a rate of pay that can maintain some level of dignity.

That slime is becoming less transparent, less accountable and less mindful by the day.

The bad news is that their hold over wealth, the police, the judiciary, the army and the press as well as the internet, means that the situation will not only get worse for any man who does not live in Wall Street, but will last far longer than any of us suspect.

Their great hope is that they can continue this charade long enough for a whole new generation to be raised under these conditions so that to them their plight will seem normal.

Great nations are supposed to die fighting for their people, for justice, for principles, for freedom.

The great nation of America will either die or morph into something vile unless someone can resurrect the spirit of America as envisaged by Washington, Jefferson and other great men who sacrificed thir wealth, their children and their own lives for what they believed in and cherished.

i am not an American by birth, but there has laways been a part of me that feels American. That part is sad, frustrated and angry. So my question to you Americans out there is, if you are feeling anything for your nation and your children's future, WHAT ARE YOU DOING ABOUT IT?

Sun, 08/05/2012 - 03:11 | 2679104 Harbanger
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"Great nations are supposed to die fighting for their people, for justice, for principles, for freedom."

Interesting, I've never heard that before.  Sure you don't have it backwards?  I've heard of men dying for justice, principles, freedom and country.

Sun, 08/05/2012 - 03:31 | 2679115 Peter Pan
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I see your point but I also see the nation as being the collective force of those able bodied and patriotic individuals who are actually able to bear arms. Google the expression "the nation will rise up" or similar words and you will get the drift of what I mean.

 

 

 

Sun, 08/05/2012 - 01:55 | 2679021 Peter Pan
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Sun, 08/05/2012 - 00:35 | 2679022 Peter Pan
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Sun, 08/05/2012 - 00:37 | 2679023 Peter Pan
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Sun, 08/05/2012 - 11:38 | 2679413 Jack Burton
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Bravo! Precious. That says it all, and American's will eat it, even knowing what it is! Speaks volumes about the decay of a once great nation and people!

Sat, 08/04/2012 - 22:45 | 2678924 AlaricBalth
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Michael:
As defined in the National Defense Authorization Act; Title X, Subtitle D, sub-sections 1021 and 1022:
You have been designated a malcontent and are now considered a threat to National Security of the United States of America. The Stellar Wind Worldwide HydraSquid Algorithm has detected an anomaly from your IP address and hereby orders you to surrender yourself to the nearest law enforcement agency. A Skynet airborne drone has been dispatched to your MGRS coordinates to ensure compliance with this directive. Upon your voluntary arrival at LEA, you will then be relocated to one of the DHS re-education facilities in an undisclosed location.

This is the only notice you will receive.
Resistance or non-compliance will be met with extreme prejudice.

END OF COMMUNICATION

Sat, 08/04/2012 - 23:01 | 2678936 Michael
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For your information I'm ubercontent, so that definition doesn't apply to me. I also live close to high tension power lines and am not worried about drones buzzing my home. In fact, I would enjoy seeing those drones getting tangled in those lines.

Sat, 08/04/2012 - 23:15 | 2678945 economics9698
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Fuck the government; I want 5 new nations, one for me and fellow libertarians.  200 million red necks waiting for the fiat to die.  Payback is a bitch NYC, we will chase those MFs everywhere on the planet and hang their ass for 100 years of thievery.  These MFs can get me but there are 199 million that will take my place.  They will be hunted, they will be killed.

Sun, 08/05/2012 - 00:13 | 2679007 madridisburning
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You have no idea how many of us would like to give you that new nation. What the hell, different strokes for different folks. But, barring that, won't Texas do?

Sun, 08/05/2012 - 09:41 | 2679279 Papasmurf
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How's your plan working so far? . . .

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