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Fri, 08/26/2011 - 13:06 | 1604740 roymunnson
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It could Happen tomorrow

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hON3t-eGwg

Fri, 08/26/2011 - 14:41 | 1605076 Ruffcut
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I saw the missing "corrupted" adjective prior to government.

I actually talked to a board of director of a credit union. He says the banks are "too regulated".

As I bubbled my blood pressure, and held back from going ballistic about fraud and a few other minor points, I almost sharted in my pants.

I had a client who ran for US congress. He still doesn't have a clue, either.

"pity the fool"- Mr. T

Sat, 08/27/2011 - 14:01 | 1607636 sgt_doom
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Well said, Ruffcut, well said, sir!

Awhile back, I heard (on an NPR show) some laid-off bank president from North Carolina bitching as to he couldn't fathom why he couldn't find any employment?????

Un-frigging-believable just how incredibly ignorant and stupid these clueless clownsters are.

This blog post has the sentence:

"Every day, more people are waking up to the reality that this big, bloated, bankrupt government is the greatest threat to their livelihood."

I mean, hasn't this clown Simon ever heard of PRIVATIZATION, for chrissakes??????

Hasn't he yet figured out that the majority of the frigging US government and its agencies, including the intelligence community and military, have been privatized?

Stooges....everywhere you look.....stooges!

Sat, 08/27/2011 - 14:17 | 1607674 chumbawamba
Fri, 08/26/2011 - 13:06 | 1604741 TradingJoe
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Oh just bag it SB!

Fri, 08/26/2011 - 13:32 | 1604814 Pool Shark
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Oh great...

Another post from Simon "Anywhere In The World is Better Than Where You Are Now" Black....

Fri, 08/26/2011 - 13:54 | 1604882 Rodent Freikorps
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We used to have a saying in the military.

There is no place better than the place you are being transferred to, and no place worse than the one you are at now.

Fri, 08/26/2011 - 15:38 | 1605301 mkkby
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LOL, so Simon spends an average 2 days in each country.  That makes him an expert on the opportunities there?  What it really proves, is all he does is contact a real estate agent.  Not too surprising to hear they have a ton of great opportunities awaiting foreigners and their soon departed money.

2 days isn't enough time to learn about a small town.

Fri, 08/26/2011 - 17:46 | 1605810 steve from virginia
Fri, 08/26/2011 - 15:06 | 1605181 That Peak Oil Guy
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Simon "The Grass is Always Greener..." Black

TPOG

Fri, 08/26/2011 - 15:11 | 1605200 Keri at Bankste...
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Why should I trust a bank in Switzerland, Belize, or the Cayman Islands any more than I (don't) trust the banks in the US?  Banks are banks---pushing a bank over a border doesn't endow it with magical pro-account-holder qualities, and it doesn't make is immune to bankster-controlled international law.  How, exactly, is having a bank account elsewhere going to protect me?  If I can access it, anyone else can as well.  And I think the Swiss banks (who are supposed to be the ultimate "independent" bankers) have proven this week with the UK tax deal that they look just the same in the shower and the US banks!

The continued inclusion of banks in our lives, in the first place, is a central part of the revolution that is being challenged right now.  Look at gold---banks HATE gold, but what is happening?  People are trading their "real money" dollars for REAL real stuff, gold.  Look at freakin' silver!  Look at copper!  Look at anything that is REAL!  Everyone on this board should be prepared to lose everything with a "$" in front it, or any other currency-denomination symbol for that matter, no matter which bank "holds" it for us.  The idea that one can aquire "wealth" by collecting debt-based units (that is, ANY currency, bond, equity-cert on the planet) is finally buckling under the weight of common sense---the common sense that debt does NOT make you "wealthy."

We have to realize that we are literally trading our time, effort, and bodies (through our work) for DEBT.  Our earnings are DEBT, and they remain debt until we can convince the next guy to trade us some of his real STUFF for our DEBT.  One day the next guys is not going to take our debt in trade for his stuff, even if that debt is coming out of a nice exotic Belizean account!

How do you get started?  You get some freakin' STUFF!

Fri, 08/26/2011 - 22:56 | 1606514 stacking12321
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the idea is diversification.

if you put 100% of your $ in a US bank and things get crazy enough in the US that your money is either siezed or the bank gets shut down, well, you have no $.

 

if you have 33% in the US, 33% in canada, and 33% in switzerland when that happens, well you still have 66% of your $.

 

and yes, your rant about banks are the problem, $ are bad, and all that, yeah, yeah, preaching to the choir.

 

but if you choose to keep some $ for liquidity, it's better that it be diversified, just good sense.

Fri, 08/26/2011 - 13:07 | 1604744 reader2010
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Storing your gold and silver in Switzerland, for instance, will be prosecuted soon.

Fri, 08/26/2011 - 13:38 | 1604837 Kayman
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Storing your gold and silver in Switzerland, for instance, will be prosecuted soon.

Unless you are a Wall Street criminal or a political whore. Where do you think the billion dollar bonuses went ?

Fri, 08/26/2011 - 13:50 | 1604862 reader2010
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The ruling elite are always ABOVE law. It has been like that since day one. There's nothing NEW under the sun.

Fri, 08/26/2011 - 14:00 | 1604909 Ag Tex
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"Give me control of a nation's money and I care not who makes it's laws" — Mayer Amschel Bauer Rothschild

Fri, 08/26/2011 - 14:48 | 1605114 lordchimp253
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That is a bullshit quote. People refer to it all the time, but never provide a primary source document from which it was supposedly found. For that matter, he never controlled any nation's money supply either. IIRC, his son or grandson was on BoE's board of directors. That's it. 

Fri, 08/26/2011 - 15:09 | 1605191 lunaticfringe
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I love that quote. Saw it on zeitgeist. I never let the truth get in the way of a good quote. Can you prove he didn't say it?

Fri, 08/26/2011 - 15:33 | 1605286 destiny
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Get a grip, read again....pretty clear ! and english is not even my mother tongue.   Rote shield IS everywhere, 400 trillion dollars worth !   Remember WATERLOO  ?

Fri, 08/26/2011 - 15:12 | 1605207 AldousHuxley
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"Give me control of nation's military and I care not who runs the banks"  -- North Korean Dictator who had his central banker killed

 

"Give me control of nation's oil and I care not who makes fiat money" -- Family of Saud to Americans

Fri, 08/26/2011 - 19:26 | 1606093 FeralSerf
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<<"Give me control of nation's military and I care not who runs the banks" -- North Korean Dictator who had his central banker killed>>

That's enough to get you on the administration's "Axis of Evil" list.  Oh, wait. . .

Fri, 08/26/2011 - 23:00 | 1606526 stacking12321
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i doubt that quote.

 

a rothschild would have better sense than to use IT'S when he means ITS.

 

you don't get to be the ruling elite with bad grammar.

 

Fri, 08/26/2011 - 14:46 | 1605101 JW n FL
Fri, 08/26/2011 - 19:36 | 1606114 FeralSerf
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<<Where do you think the billion dollar bonuses went ?>>?

Same place Madoff's stolen billions went: Tel Aviv. Banking secrecy and nobody fucks with them -- it would be "anti-Semitic" to do so.

Fri, 08/26/2011 - 13:48 | 1604856 Dr. Acula
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I am pretty sure residents of many of the USA states (about half of them) are already forbidden from holding gold outside the country.

I wasn't able to find the laws through googling though. Maybe I'm wrong.

 

Fri, 08/26/2011 - 14:29 | 1605013 Sgt.Sausage
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I'm pretty sure Dr. Acula has just hit the crack pipe and is spewing bullshit out his arse.

Let me take this opportunity to whump you upside the head with a Clue-By-Four™: The reason you couldn't find them (the laws) is because they don't exist.

Fri, 08/26/2011 - 16:00 | 1605396 AnAnonymous
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Nice one. Must be true.

But unproper.

Here's some cheap propaganda: he could not find them, that's because law codexes are bloated.

US world order.

Fri, 08/26/2011 - 13:52 | 1604873 DosZap
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IF your American, you LIKELY cannot even open a Swiss account.........they are sick of the IRS, and having to comply, or get slapped around.( Even ExPats are having LONG time accts CLOSED.

Expats are having issues getting just CHECKING accts all over Europe opened up,or getting to keep long term ones they have had.

The Swiss were the LAST bastion of really protected storage of assets.

YOU put your funds into a 3rd world craphole, and take your chances.(at least here, I have immediate access to them,not( 3-7k miles away.)

I will hold mine, and When & IF the time comes, it and my families will depart.

If I die first, they will have instructions on what to do.........their problem then.

Fri, 08/26/2011 - 14:07 | 1604899 reader2010
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You can't depart with your bullions if you will be able to depart at all. Rather,  the REAL worth is portable (marketable) knowledge. If you really desire to hold your worth, it's far better to accumulate high investment-grade diamonds. Because diamonds are much more portable with much less bulk. 100 1-oz Gold Eagles are about 7 lb with about $180,000 USD Value today, while 1000 carats high-grade diamond, also at about 7 pounds, can be worth more than hundreds of millions of today's dollars. 

Fri, 08/26/2011 - 14:08 | 1604942 DosZap
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reader2010 @14:03,

Sure you can,ever heard of ships,small aircraft,just make sure you have an up to date Passport,to get into wherever your going.

Paying someone to fly you to offshore, is not an issue,nor by ship, or water vessels.

IF we have 20 million illegals here,( and we do, if not not MORE) tell me HOW you cannot leave,LOL.

Hide n watch.

Fri, 08/26/2011 - 14:14 | 1604954 reader2010
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You probably severely underestimated the fucking power of DHS/TSA when the day comes.  If you really want to opt out of our grreat Frog-Boiling-Pot, you need to do it now more than ever. 

Fri, 08/26/2011 - 14:44 | 1605093 DosZap
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reader2010 @ 14:14,

No,I do not under estimate them at all.

I just know a country w/300+million, cannot be covered by our entire armed forces(if here,Natl Gd,PoPo's,any and all agencies we have), it's physically impossible to keep track of someone that wants to get lost or leave.

There are just too many,too much land, and not enough of them.

Not that they are not La Fabulosa..................

Fri, 08/26/2011 - 16:54 | 1605652 falardea
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They don't have to cover us all with guns.  There are enough laws on the books to make us all criminals, so all the establishment needs to do is random enforcement efforts.  Random means it could be you they raid with swat style tactics, because you didn't keep the paperwork about who harvested the wood in your guitar.  They raided Gibson guitar today.  What will the random target next?

Fri, 08/26/2011 - 18:25 | 1605936 reader2010
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Welcome to Hotel California.

 

You can checkout any time you like,
But you can never leave! 

Fri, 08/26/2011 - 19:17 | 1606081 FeralSerf
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All you need to worry about is cheap, prefect, synthetic diamonds bringing the price down.

Fri, 08/26/2011 - 16:22 | 1605491 legal eagle
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I help US clients open Swiss accounts all the time, the Swiss are just now insisting they get a Form W-7 for the IRS, and they are declaring the account.  No problem.

Sat, 08/27/2011 - 12:51 | 1607460 DosZap
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legal eagle, @16:22,

Great to know.........................

I have read stories out of the Telegraph, about Expats, and foreigners(US) ,being told to GO AWAY.

IOW, your just too much trouble, and we do not need the additional paperwork, for your paltry funds.

Several stories of Expats, losing (accts closed) simple checking accts.............held and used for years.

I do not doubt it at all............

I am VERY pissed at the Swiss for giving in to the demands of the US.( plus, when they got caught we found out they never were very trustworthy, after having to pay huge fines, and retributions to the Jews, that demanded their ancestors stolen gold, and valuables,stole from them by Hitler in WWII, and closeted away in the Swiss banks

They denied it all, UNTIL they could no longer deny it.

 Stilll the Swiss system was always the bell whether for financial independence to those who chose to use it.

Now, they are simply another  Banking whore.

Sat, 08/27/2011 - 14:22 | 1607666 Thunderlips
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Good point, Dos Zap.

I find recommendations to put money in a bank in Panama, Belize, Costa Rica, etc. by these Overseas Internet Investment types not very well thought out at all.  When the US says Jump these nations will ask "How High?" since their economies are overwhelmingly dependent on the US, along with their governments.  Look at the past 60 years and see how often the US has intervened there, be it military or 'special intelligence operations' or intense economic pressure to conform..

What you could do maybe, to get around the fact that most overseas banks won't open accounts for Americans because the reporting requirements are a pain in the ass for them, is start up a Corporation domiciled in that country, and then open an account for the Company. 

And pick a country that does as much or more business with China or Europe than the US.  Think the Southern Cone, Malta, parts of the Middle East, etc.  The Francophonie might be safe (just a guess on my part), since even if the French do give in to US demands, they'll drag their heels for so long, you'll have plenty of time and warning to react.  A country that recently gave a big middle finger to the IMF might be really good, like Argentina (not a recommendation, just putting the idea out there for criticism).  Or one that everybody forgets about, and has a sense of nationalism and victimhood, like Paraguay (which lost much of it's territory from a three pronged invasion by her neighbors many years ago and has developed a political culture deeply suspicious of foreign influence).

Your money would no longer be low hanging fruit because then the US Gov't would have to try to pull some kind of "pierce the corporate veil" trick, and many non-Anglo-Saxon Common Law countries have very different corporate law structures.  At the least it would buy you time.

In many countries, you can open up bank accounts in any denomination, too.

Fri, 08/26/2011 - 15:38 | 1605302 Yohimbo
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Oh the hell with switzerland, nice folks nice country, but its alot easier to bury the precious in the ground, and draw your kids a map.  The Feds are way too lazy to use their hands or a shovel to go dig it up...that is if they could ever find it, which they wont. Fortunately mine was lost in a boating accident, near a certain non-descript bouy, in a non descript kind of place.

Fri, 08/26/2011 - 18:04 | 1605865 Libertarian777
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not to mention, if you NEED your gold/silver in an instant, you can't exactly fly to switzerland and wait for the bank to open only to rush back so you can spend it.

 

It's like those people spending small fortunes on a bomb shelter in Nevada. What's the point. If you live in California and the SHTF how do you get to your bomb shelter?

Fri, 08/26/2011 - 13:09 | 1604746 GetZeeGold
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Put it in gold. Put it in your pocket. Don't tell anyone.

 

 

Fri, 08/26/2011 - 14:47 | 1605109 tarsubil
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Good luck selling that as a book. I mean, it doesn't even begin to fill a single page. You really need to think about how you're going to market it. Oh wait, you aren't a w**** like SB. Nevermind.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kiiuc0M4L40

Fri, 08/26/2011 - 13:11 | 1604754 pods
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Man this guy is a pompous, book selling ass.

And this is coming from a fellow doomer.

pods

Fri, 08/26/2011 - 13:17 | 1604767 rocker
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Don't buy the book, I won't.  But the principal of leaving the USA is not a Bad Idea.  We are "Worse than Japan Now".

Fri, 08/26/2011 - 13:27 | 1604797 TIMMAYYY
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...good luck going anywhere..

wtf...i dont get this idea of leaving...it wont make a difference unless you have enough money to live off for quite a while....unless you get a job in this new utopia of a place

yeah...try and get by on local rates abroad ass holes...

take what you can get from the place then fuck off when you feel a little bit fleeced. no different to a looter living off benefits 

 

Fri, 08/26/2011 - 13:36 | 1604832 pods
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It won't take long in a collapse for the locals (in any of the places he speaks of) to figure out that the guy "who ain't from around here" trading in Krugs and living it up might just be the next target.

pods

Fri, 08/26/2011 - 13:28 | 1604803 NotApplicable
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You can run, but you can't hide. If the evildoers leave you alone, it's only because a) you've gotten lucky and are invisible for the moment, or b) You're aiding and abetting them (like Simon does with his services).

Fri, 08/26/2011 - 13:43 | 1604842 thesapein
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Gotten lucky? Really, just don't be as stupid as the incompetent "evildoers". It's not hard to outsmart the US government once you stop playing by their rules.

Fri, 08/26/2011 - 13:30 | 1604810 pods
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I used to play golf in a league with my investment guy years ago.  He was always talking about where he played, vacations, cars,  equipment, etc.  Then he talked about going to Leadbetters school for a week (golf instructor).  Decent chunk of change to go there.  One day I was thinking about where he got all this time and free money to go play big shot all the time.

When it hit me I ceased to have an investment guy.

pods

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