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Guest Post: Syria And Iran Dominos Lead To World War
Submitted by Brandon Smith of Alt-Market blog,
Almost three years ago I wrote an analytical piece on the concept of deliberately engineering wars, big and small, by elitists to distract the masses away from particular global developments that work to the benefit of the establishment power structure. That article was entitled ‘Will The Globalists Trigger Yet Another World War?’:
http://www.alt-market.com/neithercorp/press/2010/01/will-globalists-trigger-yet-another-world-war/
In that analysis, I concluded that since at least 2008, the power’s that be (whether posing as Republicans or Democrats) had set in a motion a series of events that revolved around Iran, and most disturbingly, Syria, which could be used to trigger a vast global war scenario. Today, unfortunately, it seems my concerns were more than valid, and circumstances evolving in that particular region are dire indeed.
Now, some may argue that circumstances in the Middle East have always been “dire” and that it does not take much to predict a renewal of chaos. Admittedly, for the past six years alone the American public has been treated to one propaganda campaign after the other testing the social waters to see if a sizable majority of the citizenry could be convinced to support strikes against Iran. The U.S. and Israeli governments have come very close on several occasions in rhetoric and in the build up of arms, to just such an event. However, I would submit that the previous threats of war that came and went are absolutely nothing in comparison to the danger today.
Syria’s civil war has developed into something quite frightening, well beyond the blind insurrections of the so-called “Arab Spring”. So many outside interests (especially U.S. interests) are involved in the conflict it is impossible to tell whether there are actually any real revolutionaries in Syria anymore. This unsettling of the country’s foundation has taken a turn which I warned about recently, namely, the removal of UN monitors from the area, which was announced only days ago:
http://in.reuters.com/article/2012/08/16/syria-crisis-idINL6E8JGDXH20120816
The removal of UN monitors is a sign that some kind of strike is near the horizon.
Accusations of potential “chemical weapons stores” in Syria are being floated by the Department of Defense as a clear cut rationale for invasion, and Israel has essentially admitted that an attack on Iran is not only on the table but beyond planning stages into near implementation. Even Israeli citizens are openly worried that their government is “serious” this time in its calls for preemptive attack, stockpiling gas masks and even protesting against the policy:
The tension of the atmosphere surrounding this crisis is unlike anything the Middle East has seen in decades, and that includes the U.S. invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan.
But before we can understand the true gravity of this situation, we must first confront some misconceptions…
Firstly, I realize that there are many people out there who have natural and conditioned inclinations towards the hatred of Muslim nations. There are also just as many people out there who are inclined to distrust the intentions of the government of Israel. Both sides make good points on occasion, and both sides also have a tendency to get lazy, painting with a ridiculously broad brush and blaming all the woes of the world on one side or the other so that they don’t have to think through the complexities of globalism and the one world technocratic club, or accept that “Al-Qaeda” is not the biggest threat to peace and stability. It’s much easier to convict an entire race, or an entire religion, than it is to comprehend the mechanizations of an elite minority that plays both sides off each other.
Whatever side you may favor, simply know that in the end the sides are irrelevant. We could argue for months about who is just, who is right, who was there first, etc. Again, it’s irrelevant. What does matter, though, are the potential consequences of an exponential conflict in the region, which no one can afford.
Sadly, there are still plenty of Americans out there that believe the U.S. is the “richest nation on the globe” and has finances beyond reckoning with which to wage endless wars.
Here are the facts. Here is exactly what will happen if the U.S., NATO, or Israel, enter into a hot war with either Iran or Syria, and the results are not optimistic:
1) Syria And Iran Will Join Forces
In 2006, Iran and Syria signed a mutual defense treaty in response to the growing possibility of conflict with the West. Both countries are highly inclined to fulfill this treaty, and it would seem that Iran is already doing so, at least financially, as Syria spirals into civil war. In fact, the U.S. supported insurgency in Syria was likely developed in order to strain or test the mutual aid treaty. Given that the CFR is now applauding Al-Qaeda for its efforts in destabilizing the country, I hardly find it outlandish to suggest that the entire rebellion is being at least loosely organized by NATO interests to either draw Iran into open military support of Assad and a weakening proxy war, or to remove Syria from the equation in preparation for a strike on Iran itself (take notice that whenever the mainstream media shows images of Syrian rebels, they are always smiling or looking valiant with guns held high; a typical subliminal tactic used to paint them as “the good guys”):
http://www.cfr.org/syria/al-qaedas-specter-syria/p28782
2) Iran Will Shut Down The Strait Of Hormuz
With all the grandstanding at the Department of Defense, you would think that the Hormuz is a non-issue. This is a mistake. The strait is around 21 miles wide at its narrowest point which lays right off the coast of Iran, however, of that 21 miles only two safe shipping lanes are available, each measuring a miniscule 2 miles across. Hormuz is one of two of the most vital oil transit checkpoints in the world, and approximately 20% of all oil produced passes through it. The logistics for blocking the two working shipping lanes on the strait are simple given the existence of the new Ghader Missile System, which Iran tested successfully this year. The weapon is specifically designed as a “ship-killer” with the ability to travel at Mach 3, and evade most known radar methods:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/story/2012-01-01/iran-missile-test/52318422/1
In the tightly boxed in waterways of the Hormuz, a large scale and difficult to track missile attack would be devastating to any Navy present, and would turn the sea lanes into a junk yard impossible to navigate for oil tankers. Result? A catastrophic inflationary event in oil around the world, making gasoline unaffordable for most people and most uses. The EU’s recent move to stockpile oil in preparation for an Iran strike reveals the seriousness of the situation:
http://www.euractiv.com/energy/europe-starts-piling-oil-iran-wa-news-514340
3) Israeli Action Will Draw In The U.S.
Forget what the U.S. Joint Chief of Staff General Martin Dempsey says; the U.S. will absolutely involve itself militarily in Iran or Syria following an Israeli strike. To begin with, there is no way around a supporting or primary role, especially when Iran closes the Strait of Hormuz. With 20% of the world’s oil supply on hiatus, at least half of the American populace will be crying out for U.S. military involvement. Guaranteed. Dempsey’s claim that Israel may not get American support is simply a charade meant to infer that the subversion of Syria and Iran is not necessarily a joint venture, which it absolutely is. There is zero chance that an Israeli strike will not be met with frantic calls by the Pentagon and the White House to open the floodgates of U.S. military might and protect one of our few “democratic allies” in the Middle East.
4) Syria Will Receive Support From Russia And China
The Russian government has clearly stated on numerous occasions that they will not step back during a strike against Syria, and has even begun positioning naval ships and extra troops at is permanent base off the coast of Tartus, a development which I have been warning about for years:
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/08/03/us-syria-russia-navy-idUSBRE8720AO20120803
Tartus is Russia’s only naval base outside the periphery of its borders, and is strategically imperative to the nation. Action by the U.S. or Israel against Syria would invariably ellicit, at the very least, economic retaliation, and at the most, Russian military involvement and possible widespread war.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/08/21/us-syria-crisis-idUSBRE8610SH20120821
China, on the other hand, will likely respond with full scale financial retaliation, up to and including a dump of U.S. Treasury Bonds (a move which they have been preparing for since 2005 anyway). With oil prices skyrocketing due to increased Middle Eastern distress, multiple countries including the BRIC trading bloc nations and most of the ASEAN trading bloc will have the perfect excuse to dump the dollar, allowing for the introduction of the IMF’s newly revamped SDR (Special Drawing Rights) global currency mechanism to take hold.
Syria is the key to what I believe will be an attempt on the part of globalists within our government to actually coax a volatile conflict into being, a conflict that will create ample cover for the final push towards global currency, and eventually, global governance.
5) Economic Implosion Will Become “Secondary”…To The Banksters’ Benefit
In the minds of the general public, the economic distress that we will soon face regardless of whether or not there is ever a war with Iran and Syria will be an afterthought, at least for a time, if the threat of global combat becomes reality. The fog of war is a fantastic cover for all kind of crime, most especially the economic kind. Sizable wars naturally inhibit markets and cause erratic flux in capital flows. Anything, and I mean anything, can be blamed on a war, even the destruction of the U.S. economy and the dollar. Of course, the real culprits (international and central banks) which have been corrupting and dismantling the American fiscal structure for decades will benefit most from the distraction.
Syria and Iran are, in a way, the first dominos in a long chain of terrible events. This chain, as chaotic as it seems, leads to only one end result: Third world status for almost every country on the planet, including the U.S., leaving the financial institutions, like monetary grim reapers, to swoop in and gather up the pieces that remain to be fashioned into a kind of Frankenstein economy. A fiscal golem. A global monstrosity that removes all sovereignty whether real or imagined and centralizes the decision making processes of humanity into the hands of a morally bankrupt few.
For those on the side of Israel, the U.S., and NATO, and for those on the side of the Middle East, Russia China, etc., the bottom line is, there will be no winners. There is no "best case scenario". There will be no victory parade, for anyone. There will be no great reformation or peace in the cradle of civilization. The only people celebrating at the end of the calamitous hostilities will be the hyper-moneyed power addicted .01%, who will celebrate their global coup in private, laughing as the rest of the world burns itself out, and comes begging them for help.
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Want to know what's really going to happen? Read the back of the Book.
Or, Brzezinski's The Grand Chessboard...
what cracks me up is that the dictatorship of saudi arabia is on the same team as israel.
and the same as the coming dictatorship in the USA.
Has The House of Saud ever gone against israel? They just might be secret jews.
The Wahabis are crypto (secret) Jews.
Who gives a shit. It's none of America's fucking business.
Sure it is, there's "American 'interests'" at stake! ("the American way of life isn't negotiable") </sarc>
And [supposedly] Osama bin Laden didn't like The House of Saud. Guess who was the odd one out?
That's a bingo...
The Zionist controlled media has 'head in the sand' Americans thinking that the conflict is between Israel & Iran... Instead ~ the frontline of the religious conflict [from any Iranian perspect] is Shiite vs. Sunni (always has been)... They don't like Zionist Jews either, but it has less to do with religious fundamentalism & more to do with the fact that Zionists want to steal their land & otherwise spend their time bullying Shiites whenever they can...
Shiite vs. Sunni is the fundamentalist war... Zionists could give a shit about religious fundamentalism... They're just money grubbers & power whores...
Wrong, and simplistic.
My family has been involved in the ME since the 1890's,long before they were lucky/unlucky
enough to find their oil.
There is no emnity between Sunni and Shia per se.The conflict is and always has beeen at the
tribal level.The arbitary lines on the map imposed by various empires were made to cause
internecine warfare,not prevent it.
Many Sunni and Shia hate fellow faith Arabs of different tribes.
I agree that it is simplistic...
But delving into the matter would require a WALL OF TEXT (which would then generate several more WALLS OF TEXT & so on)... The BOTTOM LINE of my assumption is the following:
I would characterize the finding of oil UNLUCKY (based on your description), because, the TROUBLE really begins when Zionists enter the picture... Tribal disputes (as you refer to) can be settled in their own manner & don't require the attentiion of the world (or the collateral suffering that goes along with it)... Instead ~ when WORLD CONTROL comes into play (because of a resource, like oil), then all hell breaks loose...
I just get sick of the same old script of 'divide & conquer' that Zionists have used throughout the ages, to distract the root cause of a conflict... Therefore, labels like "anti-semitism" are non-adherent... It's like in the movie DIE HARD, when, in the end, Franz isn't fighting for a 'cause', he's just a high tech bank robber...
If you want a WALL OF TEXT on some of the aspects of this, I'll provide one below...
I'm not so certain that the discovery or non-discovery of oil has any bearing on basic human nature. What it is, is that things escalate underlying traits/behaviors. The California Gold Rush had people knocking each other off: the railroads were plugging holes in LOTS of people; and then there were the natives who got nice blankets...
If a group predicates itself on the export of a finite resource then it's only a matter of time before it learns whether it was "lucky" or not... I'm thinking that it'll be like heroin withdrawal, for an entire mass of people at the same time... yeah, good to kick the monkey, but...
This blog is spot on. Iran (Islam) will be a major cause of World War III. Bush and/or Obama could have stopped Iran's nuclear program and saved millions of lives. Looks like Armageddon is real after all.
A potentially radcial Egypt will not help....
Egypt WILL help...
If only to keep Israel occupied [distracted] on both ends... Think Yom Kippur War...
Bad news for all you anti-Semites: Israel survives WWII--Wall Street bankers don't. This is going to be hell on earth. The dead will be counted blessed. Burn in hell those who hate the Jews.
a) Very few Jews are semites. Most (including the originals, 2,600 years ago) are Aryans from southern Russia (Kazakhstan).
b) Being anti-zionist is neither anti-semitic nor anti-jew.
c) Sounds like you've got more hate than anybody else here. "Burn in hell"???
d) Buy a book and do some reading.
e) Go fuck yourself!
Enjoy it while it lasts.
f) Shove it up your Zionist ass, war-monger, momma-boy, tool.
"Netanyahu", {hebrew} "Nethaniah" meaning 'the gift of the Lord'.
... and a family history of narcissistic personality disorder.
Americans won't support a war for Syria, the Russian population will not as well.
If you are to be truthfull, most of the populations would just say, turn the entire country into a crater and get it over with. Hen there is no reason to fight anymore.
Global governments are going well against the silent majority of their countries. It takes a major event for this majority to act. Going to war over Syria isn't going to have the same effect as going to war against the Nazis. The public will not support it.
The current US government parallels the rise of the Nazis, or the rise of Stalin in very true and very scary ways. Secret police, weapons to be used against civil unrest, laws passed to confiscate property in times of crisis. Narcissism to the point of insanity in our leaders.
The governments that spent us into this hole and the elites that profited from it, need a global war to cover their exit and protect themselves. They do not want the rightful blame put on them, if people know the truth the next war won't be against Syria. It might just be against NYC and DC.
I agree with you, except when did public opinion every stop a immoral nation from going to war?
Shalom and Amen, adr.
"If you are to be truthfull, most of the populations would just say, turn the entire country into a crater and get it over with. Hen there is no reason to fight anymore."
~~~
Seems awful simple doesn't it?... The problem is this... If Americans [&/or Israelis] end up taking over Iran (without challenge)... Then the NWO game is just about complete...
Which means... Then they turn on YOU (and turn YOU into more of a slave than you even are now)... Hell ~ prolly they'll just decide to annihilate you completely...
So who is your friend here?...
Iran is not Afghanistan and it is not Iraq. It is a HUGE country. Nobody--nobody--is going to "end up taking [it] over." But you are exactly right about everything else.
I might not agree with your premise that Americans don't want war. You might live in a largely anti-war community, but I don't. I can assure you that the mind-controlled neocon "Christians" in my community seem to have no qualms whatsoever about the continuation of the Afghan/Iraq decimation/occupation, nor would they mind killing "all those dirty rotten Mooslims" in Syria or any other country. They are so petrified with fear and COMPLETELY preoccupied with an Obama 2nd term, as their pocketbooks might suffer under the Commizar in Chief, that they don't seem to know or care that a coming global war would kill their cush lives much faster than Obama could (even though he makes NONE of his own decisions). Their zombie mantra is "we must always bless Israel....always bless Israel."
I am not exaggerating, either! It is disturbing and disgusting!
It's all over ther place...
The 'brainwashing' has been very effective... It's time for de-programming... I'm trying to do my part little by little... But you have to have a thick skin because people immediately want to put you on an island...
Yes, Francis, you are wise in your approach. And it DOES take thick skin! I have several very good books and resources in my arsenal of truth, but it is difficult to change a stubborn and brainwashed mind. Are you aware of Ted Pike and Michael Hoffman? I think they provide a fair and non-shrill place for Zionized Christians to start their rehabilitation. I also like WHTT.org for a rational and intellectual critique of Christian Zionism, as well as many works by Eustace Mullins.
It's nice to know there is someone else out there trying to reach the dilusional. It is very tiresome, but it is important.
Can't say I know those two... (but I'll check them out)...
Look ~ this isn't a crusade for me... It's just trying to get an understanding of the inconsistencies between what my eyes see (& what's 'reported')... It happens on a lot of fronts, I'll name a few:
1. OBAMA ~ something didn't ring true with me about him right away... I could not (& still cannot, to this day, understand the fawning all over attention that the media does)... I don't hate the man... I just thinks he sucks as a President (& knew it was going to happen before it ever got started)... The problem is, even now you can't complain about it, or say 'I told u so' because the conversation immediuately devolves into whether an idiot like McCain (or now Romney) would be a better choice... At that point (like when blindly po-Israel folks get there panties in a bunch), the conversation is permanently adrift at sea...
2. 911 was the same way... Even with all the facts that have come forward, it's very hard to even begin to start the path of understanding when trying to make a case against someone who bought the 9/11 Commission report hook line & sinker... (what's worse is that the 'evil towelhead' meme mostly got started AFTER & because of 9/11)... So you're already behind on two fronts in that argument... The 9/11 story has to be looked at from a comprehensive perspective to finally reach the critical mass necessary for an average human to wake up... GEORGE WASHINGTON had two excellent posts recently on ZH about this very phenomenon...
So when it comes to Israel... The conversation de-railers are always out in full force...
The way I deal with the nit-wits that you mention is by NOT telling them any sort of facts about 9/11 (or whatever). Instead, I just ask a series of questions like "Have you seen the photographs of the Pentagon that were taken a couple of hours after the incident on 9/11? What did you think when you saw it? Do you have any idea why the wings of the 757 didn't make a mark on the walls of the Pentagon? What do you think it means that there was no wreckage? No bodies or body parts? No luggage?" And so on, lke that. I find that it works very well.
Good post! Thanks for what you are doing.
"Going to war over Syria isn't going to have the same effect as going to war against the Nazis. The public will not support it."
I suspect that we have a bit of a problem with semantics here.
"War," as we know it, is no longer something that is declared. We're in a perpetual state of war, and that includes current war in/with Syria. Recall George W. Bush giving Saddam 24 (or was it 48?) hours? before he was even uttering that in front of the teleprompter there were troops invading Iraq (plausible denial was given by using Australian troops, of course under the guidance of the US- they were used to secure democracy, no!, wait, to secure the oil infrastructure); anyone who doesn't think that there were foreign troops tossing bullets into Iraqis isn't thinking squarely.
With the perpetual state of national emergency in place (since Sept 14th, 2001, recently extended by Obama) the Executive can do just about anything... OUR "voices" are totally meaningless as we could just as well be suspected of being terrorist (threatening the global elite).
For a good read:
Defining an American State of War
http://www.counterpunch.org/2011/06/23/defining-an-american-state-of-war/
More to think about as pertains to the concentation of power (which will always drive toward war)...
Is the State of Emergency Superseding the US Constitution? Continuity of Government Planning, War and American Societyhttp://japanfocus.org/-Peter_Dale-Scott/3448
Ah, we're from the "government" and we're here to help you...
the fog of war propaganda is pretty thick these days, hard to know what lies ahead
more fog more wog more war. more amor is what we need but don't get.
How about changing the lines of the play; like in "to be or not to be" by Ernst Lubitsch. That was one huge charade about the dogs of war, barking down the wrong alley. Dead end Armageddon straits of Hormuzzzzzz.
As to reliably predicting future events, Brandon Smith's crystal ball might be among the best, but such items of crystal are not very reliable, ever.
Here's what jumped out at me:
"Accusations of potential “chemical weapons stores” in Syria are being floated by the Department of Defense as a clear cut rationale for invasion,"
That is odd. The US devastated Fsllujah, Iraq, using white phosphorus weapons, along with depleted uranium shells, there, and elsewhere in Iraq. A distinction was carved out. Apparently it's ok to use such weapons so long as you say you are aiming them at military targets.
I'm sure no msm stooge will evah ask Obama or anyone else why it was ok for the US to use such weapons on one hand and claim a use by Syria is illegal, on the other.
Like the failure to assess the obvious falsity of the 9/11 story, the failure by msm to call attention to US dupliciity on chemical weapons is a clear shirking of responsibility in violation of the Nuremburg principals.
The US seems intent on getting away with war crimes for as long as it can.
"Failure" by the MSM, really? Sadly, it's always been their job to promote wars! And the NYT is perhaps the biggest such "failure."
Here's a story of how it all fits together:
http://ce399fascism.wordpress.com/2012/02/10/united-fruit-company-sulliv...
Keep in mind USMC Major General Smedley Butler's decree that he was a hired hit man for United Fruit.
MSM IS propaganda, it IS TPTB. Quite fruitless (pardon the pun) to speak truth to power, power already knows the truth...
All that might be good about the exposure of the Nuremberg Principals is wiped out with the tide that flows against anything "international." (TPTB's propaganda machine has every angle covered)
The globalists have been trying to get this war with Iran going for a several years. Many attempts have been thwarted. My feeling is all future attempts will be as well. It looks to me like the bankers will be left to face the music as their ponzi implodes. I don't see them escaping in an engineered cloud of dust but I am glad to see the vigilant observation and debate.
I hope you're right... My 'hope' that it will prove to be the famous BRIDGE TOO FAR...
But maybe that's just wishful thinking...
You are right. If our gov't is stupid enough to actually invade Iran, it will indeed be a bridge too far.
I guess it'll come down to them walking the walk of being "civilized." I'm thinking that cornered animals have no such thoughts.
Most need to ask for forgiveness and then either walk among the lesser, or, they should off-themselves (perhaps leaving nice letters full of truth [warnings of what we shouldn't do]).
something wicked this way comes
wasnt the UN designed to prevent ,rather than facilitate, all future war?
or was that the goal of the league of nations?
oh fuck it, wheres my blue pill...........................
BOTH the United Nations & it's failed predecessor, 'The League of Nations', were only the solution stage of the classic HEGELIAN DIALECTIC...
IOW ~ They're not 'solutions' at all, they're destinations for enslavement...
Scaremongering! Hillary is on top of this while Barry raises reelection bucks and plays golf after "soft interviews". PTB will take a wait and see attitude. Barry will keep us out of war with his new Foward Comrades programs for a million jobs and strengthening of America.we are on the cusp of a new era of peace and prosperity, and...and...and The Mittens is coming to save us. He's cum laude, Bitchez, not affirmative action bunny.
So let's follow the premise - the 0.01% are going to reap an endless windfall by impoverishing the world - therefore, if the world prospers, they lose big time - so how did they get to be the 0.01%? Oh, I see, they are from a different planet - got it...
Many of these people rose to power and amassed great wealth during WWII. On can argue that the financialization that started in the 1970s was a result of not being able to leverage a global conflict into a huge windfall due to MAD.
The Soviet Union was on the brink of destruction at the end of the 1950s. Cuba was actually a last ditch effort to remain relevant. The Cold War could have been ended then. Instead the military industrial complex used its power to make sure the conflict continued. Even allowing the Soviet empire to expand, giving us a reason to follow them into conflicts in Asia.
Not many people know that Patton could have ended WWII months after landing. His division was pushing hard into German occupied territory and had their tank divisions on the run. He wanted to follow the running Germans and wipe them out. If he did, it was an open march direct to Berlin. Instead Patton was called off, to let the Germans regroup. There was too much riding on the war. Mainly ending the depression in the USA. American corproations were making far too much money building the machines of war, to have the conflict end early.
"American corproations were making far too much money building the machines of war, to have the conflict end early."
They'd been making money well before the US entered the war. And after the war all views of this were swept up under the rug: the dog and pony shows such as the Nuremberg Trials helped ensure that (helped usher in even MORE big corporate control).
In regards to war there is one case for 'optimism'. Total debt, public and private, is much greater now than it was in 1940 and that includes many potential belligerents. We are facing a meltdown probably soon after the election and closing the Strait of Hormuz would make this worse by an order of magnitude. The world simply cannot afford to go to war. That is the case 'optimism' at least as far as war is concerned. But that might not stop the elites from trying.
There won't be a ME war, for the simple fact that Israel would not survive it.
Iran's highly effective surface to surface missles will do to Dimona what mad dog Netanyahu runs his mouth about doing to Netanz. Bear in mind that the counterfeit bankster creation that refers to itself as "Israel" is the size of the state of New Jersey. Throw some cobalt-60 tipped payloads into the mix, distribute the hits liberally, and voila!, the place becomes a radioactive wasteland. "Israel" may do a lot of damage but will cease to exist in the process. What a plan!
Think the "Iron Dome" is much more than a marketing slogan? Those in the know sure don't think so. Any defensive system can be overwhelmed if only by sheer numbers, and Iran has 'em in spades. Very smart fellas those Iranians.
So everyone chill, the Mad Dog is bluffing. Good poker players call an obvious bluff and this is exactly what Iran, Syria, Russia and China are in the process of doing.
Good on them for stepping up to halt "Israeli" madness.
The Iranians (Persians) invented chess. But American neo-cons are going to outwit them. What a plan! What could go wrong?
Careful! There's this term that you might want to consider: One up'd.
It's not so much as the Iranians being superior strategically-mindedly (yeah, sounds pretty garbled, but it best represents what I mean/intend), but that it's THEIR land and the US (Rockefeller initiative) has the supply-lines issue to deal with.
"There won't be a ME war"
Shh! Don't look, but there have been wars going on there for over a decade now... The "plan" lists seven countries to over-throw: per Wesley Clark's disclosure: "We're going to take down seven countries. We're going to start with Iraq, then Syria, Lebanon, then Libya, Somalia, Sudan, we're going to come back and get Iran."
The order was a bit messed up, but they're still on track. This shit is commissioned by TPTB, and anyone who thinks they can be stopped against their will is sorely mistaken. Just ain't no players in this big game that I can root for...
Subtlety and psychology. The two biggest weapons in the aresenal of the so-called puppet masters. This is exactly what "they" want. It is the old us versus them tribal mentality. The stage set up with lies, distractions and manipulations. All leaders of governments, of all countries in the world are not the real power masters. We all know they are bought and paid for puppets to give the people a face to see. Even most banker elites and royals are puppets that are used and controlled. Only doing what they themselves have been taught to do since thier birth or being bought at a later age, building thier house on sand. There are certain creeping types who are manipulating the situations. This is bigger than just flesh. Flesh is a part and plays a role but we must not forget that this is from spiritual wickedness in high places and of certain types leaving thier estate and manipulating men/women, governments, religions, economies and so on. There will be war, famine, disease, disasters(earthquakes,fires,floods) continuing unlike any other time and coming to a head. The army of two hundred thousand thousand is almost done preparing. This war which is already started will come to a head but it is only part of the whole of the coming to a head situation. Not only being dominos of war but of dominos of the destruction of 1/3 of all human life alive today.
One fly in the ointment is the china financial retaliation thesis. 45% of China's gdp is exported to the west. If china dumps treasuries, its exchange rate rises and you can kiss those exports good buy. Everyone loves to state that china is the US's largest creditor but really the US owns china.
Not sure I buy the straits of hormuz thesis either. Maybe but maybe not.
really the US owns china.
A smart parasite leaves its host before the host has died. I think China is pretty smart.
and what happens to the parasite without another host?
In this case, I think China's future plans don't include hosts. Look at what they've built with "worthless" dollars drained from the US. But then again, maybe "parasite" isn't the right analogy.
As Jack White so eloquently sung it, "You can't be a pimp and a prostitute too." I think in China's long view, the US has served admirably. Good girl.
In the end, it's all a big game and nobody knows who will win. We can all take comfort in knowing that those who make the rules will be just fine, regardless of the eventual outcome and regardless of their avowed political beliefs or where in the world they live.
refer back to my original post....45% of their gdp is exports to the west....keep thinking buddy....do you know what the other 55% is? unbelievable....
to a host who boasts that whatever the argument exposed in a heated debate at the dinner table the outcome will be "you are toast", to his guest and momentary antagonist in field of repartee ; there is only one response that comes to mind : "You Sir can't be player and referee in this debate".
Admittedly its difficult to say that to his face if the meal is excellent and his wife succulent to boot and she shows and knows it willingly.
It is in moments like this that one goes gracious in defeat; the retreat to the salon is a tactical move where the thought comes to mind that the host in the aura of his apparent victory must be thinking "I've won, he can't be a pimp and a prostitute too in his own cause". Little does he know that his wife has just run up the jolly roger of marital infidelity and is willing to admit "I can be a pimp and a prostitute too, if its my own pleasure at stake".
Its Maupassant; it could be Bel-Ami.
Oil producing nations from wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_oil_production
1 Saudi Arabia 9,540,000[3] 13.06% 2011 2 Russia 8,800,000[3] 12.01% 2011 3 Iraq 3,300,000 3.90% 2012 4 Iran 2,800,000 3.20% 2012 5 China 3,991,000 4.56% 2009 6 Canada 3,289,000 3.90% 2009 7 Mexico 3,001,000 3.56% 2009 8 United Arab Emirates 2,798,000 3.32% 2009So.. Iran takes out Saudi, Iraqi and UAE oil supplies, Russia and China refuse to supply western interests. 39.9% reduction in supply.
Seems like a vulnerability to me.
Here's a WALL OF TEXT I promised earlier... This is just a nutshell version... (apologies for the WOT)...
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By Andrew Hitchcock
1905: A group of Rothschild backed Zionist Jews led by Georgi Apollonovich Gapon attempt to overthrow the Tsar in Russia in a Communist Coup. They fail and are forced to flee Russia only to be given refuge in Germany.
The Jewish Encyclopaedia (Vol. 2, p.497) states,
“It is a somewhat curious sequel to the attempt to set up a Catholic competitor to the Rothschilds that at the present time the latter are the guardians of the papal treasure.” 1906: The Rothschilds claim that due to growing instability in the region and increasing competition from Rockefeller (the Rockefeller family are Rothschild descendants through a female bloodline) owned Standard Oil, this is why they sell their Caspian and Black Sea Petroleum Company to Royal Dutch and Shell. This is another example of the Rothschilds trying to hide their true wealth. 1907: Rothschild, Jacob Schiff, the head of Kuhn, Loeb and Co., in a speech to the New York Chamber of Commerce, warns that,
“Unless we have a Central Bank with adequate control of credit resources, this country is going to undergo the most severe and far reaching money panic in its history.” Suddenly America finds itself in the middle of another typical run of the mill Rothschild engineered financial crisis, which ruins as usual ruins the lives of millions of innocent people throughout America and makes billions for the Rothschilds. 1909: Jacob Schiff founds the National Advancement for the Association of the Coloured People (NAACP). This was done to incite black people into roiting, looting and other forms of disorder, in order to cause a rift between the black and white communities. Jewish historian, Howard Sachar, states the following in his book, “A History of the Jews in America,”
“In 1914, Professor Emeritus Joel Spingarn of Columbia University became chairman of the NAACP and recruited for its board such Jewish leaders as Jacob Schiff, Jacob Billikopf, and Rabbi Stephen Wise.” Other Ashkenazi Jew co-founders included Julius Rosenthal, Lillian Wald and Rabbi Emil G. Hirsch. It was not until 1920 that the NAACP appointed its first black president, James Weldon Johnson. Maurice de Rothschild marries Ashkenazi Jew, Noémie Halphen.
1911: Werner Sombart, in his book, “The Jews and Modern Capitalism,” stated that from 1820 on, it was the,
“Age of the Rothschild,” and concluded that there was, “Only one power in Europe, and that is Rothschild.” 1912: In the December issue of, “Truth,” magazine, George R. Conroy states of banker Jacob Schiff, “Mr Schiff is head of the great private banking house of Kuhn, Loeb, and co, which represents the Rothschilds interests on this side of the Atlantic. He has been described as financial strategist and has been for years the financial minister of the great impersonal power known as Standard Oil.
He was hand in glove with the Harrimans, the Goulds, and the Rockefellers in all their railroad enterprises and has become the dominant power in the railroad and financial power of America.” 1913: On March 4, Woodrow Wilson is elected the 28th President of the United States. Shortly after he is inaugurated, he is visited in the White House by Ashkenazi Jew, Samuel Untermyer, of law firm, Guggenheim, Untermyer, and Marshall, who tries to blackmail him for the sum of $40,000 in relation to an affair Wilson had whilst he was a professor at Princeton University, with a fellow professor’s wife. President Wilson does not have the money, so Untermyer volunteers to pay the $40,000 out of his own pocket to the woman Wilson had had the affair with, on the condition that Wilson promise to appoint to the first vacancy on the United States Supreme Court a nominee to be recommended to President Wilson by Untermyer. Wilson agrees to this.
Jacob Schiff sets up the Anti Defamation League (ADL) in the United States. This organisation is formed to slander anyone who questions or challenges the Rothschild global conspiracy as, “anti-semitic.”
Strangely enough, the same year that they do this they also set up their last and current central bank in America, the Federal Reserve. Congressman Charles Lindbergh stated following the passing of the Federal Reserve Act on December 23,
“The Act establishes the most gigantic trust on earth. When the President signs this Bill, the invisible government of the monetary power will be legalized…….The greatest crime of the ages is perpetrated by this banking and currency bill.” It is important to note that the Federal Reserve is a private company, it is neither Federal nor does it have any Reserve. It is conservatively estimated that profits exceed $150 billion per year and the Federal Reserve has never once in its history published accounts. 1914: The start of World War I. In this war, the German Rothschilds loan money to the Germans, the British Rothschilds loan money to the British, and the French Rothschilds loan money to the French.
Futhermore, the Rothschilds have control of the three European news agencies, Wolff (est. 1849) in Germany, Reuters (est. 1851) in England, and Havas (est. 1835) in France.
The Rothschilds use Wolff to manipulate the German people into a fervour for war. From around this time, the Rothschilds are rarely reported in the media, because they own the media.
1916: On June 4, Ashkenazi Jew, Louis Dembitz Brandeis is appointed to the Supreme Court of the United States by President Wilson as per his agreed blackmail payment to Samuel Untermyer some three years earlier. Justice Brandeis is also the elected leader of the Executive Committee for Zionist Affairs, a position he has held since 1914.
The middle of World War II. Germany were winning the war as they were being financed by the Rothschilds to a greater extent than France, Italy and England, because Rothschilds, did not want to support the Tsar in Russia, and of course Russia was on the same side as France, Italy and England.
Then a significant event occurred. Germany, although they were winning the war and not one foreign soldier had set foot on their soil, offered armistice to Britain with no requirement of reparations. The Rothschilds were anxious to make sure this didn’t happen as they were expecting to make far more money off this war, so they played another card they had up their sleeve.
Whilst the British were considering Germany’s offer, Rothschild agent Louis Brandeis sends a Zionist delegation from America to Britain to promise to bring America into the war on the side of the British, provided the British agree to give the land of Palestine to the Rothschilds.
The Rothschilds wanted Palestine for the following reason. They had great business interests in the far east and desired their own state in that area along with their own military which they could use as an aggressor to any state that threatened those interests.
The British subsequently agree to the deal for Palestine and the Zionists in London contact their counterparts in America and inform them of this fact. Suddenly all the major newspapers in America that up to that point had been pro-German turned on Germany running propaganda pieces such as: German soldiers were killing Red Cross Nurses; German soldiers were cutting off babies hands, etc, in order to manipulate the American public against the Germans.
This same year, President Woodrow Wilson, ran a re-election campaign under the slogan, “Re-Elect The Man Who Will Keep Your Sons Out Of The War.”
On December 12, Germany and her allies offer peace terms to end the war.
1917: As a result of Germany’s offer of peace the Rothschild war machine goes into overdrive in America, spreading propaganda which leads to President Wilson under the instructions of American Zionist leader and Supreme Court Justice, Louis Dembitz Brandeis, reneging on his promise to the electorate and taking America into the first world war on April 6.
As per the Rothschild Zionist promise to the British, to take America into the war, they decide they want something in writing from the British to prove that they will uphold their side of the bargain. The British Foreign Secretary, Arthur James Balfour therefore drafts a letter which is commonly known as the, “Balfour Declaration,” which is reprinted below.
Foreign Office November 2nd, 1917
Dear Lord Rothschild,
I have much pleasure in conveying to you, on behalf of His Majesty’s Government, the following declaration of sympathy with Jewish Zionist aspirations which has been submitted to, and approved by, the Cabinet.
His Majesty’s Government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country.
I should be grateful if you would bring this declaration to the knowledge of the Zionist Federation.
Yours sincerely,
Arthur James Balfour
The Rothschilds order the execution by the Bolsheviks they control, of Tsar Nicholas II and his entire family in Russia, even though the Tsar had already abdicated on March 2. This is both to get control of the country and an act of revenge for Tsar Alexander I blocking their world government plan in 1815 at the Congress Of Vienna, and Tsar Alexander II siding with President Abraham Lincoln in 1864. It is extremely important for them to slaughter the entire family including women and children in order to make good on the promise to do so made by Nathan Mayer Rothschild in 1815. It is designed to show the world what happens if you ever attempt to cross the Rothschilds.
U.S. Congressman Oscar Callaway informs Congress that J. P. Morgan is a Rothschild front and has taken control of the American media industry. He states,
“In March, 1915, the J.P. Morgan interests, the steel, shipbuilding, and powder interest, and their subsidiary organizations, got together 12 men high up in the newspaper world and employed them to select the most influential newspapers in the United States and sufficient number of them to control generally the policy of the daily press… …They found it was only necessary to purchase the control of 25 of the greatest papers…An agreement was reached. The policy of the papers was bought, to be paid for by the month, an editor was furnished for each paper to properly supervise and edit information regarding the questions of preparedness, militarism, financial policies, and other things of national and international nature considered vital to the interests of the purchasers.”
1919: In January, Ashkenazi Jews, Karl Liebknecht and Rosa Luxemburg, are killed as they attempt to lead another Rothschild funded Communist coup, this time in Berlin, Germany. The Versailles peace conference is held to decide reparations that the Germans need to pay to the victors following the end of the first world war. A delegation of 117 Zionists headed up by Ashkenazi Jew, Bernard Baruch, bring up the subject of the promise of Palestine for them. At this point the Germans realised why America had turned on them and under whose influence, the Rothschilds.
The Germans, naturally, felt they had been betrayed by the Zionists. This is because, at the time the Rothschilds made their deal with Britain for Palestine, in exchange for bringing America into the war, Germany was the most friendly country in the world towards the Jews, indeed the German Emancipation Edict of 1822 guaranteed Jews in Germany all civil rights enjoyed by Germans.
Also, Germany was the only country in Europe which did not place restrictions on Jews, even giving them refuge when they had to flee from Russia after their first attempted Communist coup failed there in 1905.
Nevertheless, the Rothschilds had held up their side of the bargain to spill the blood of millions of innocents and as a result, Palestine is confirmed as a Jewish homeland, and whilst its handover to the Rothschilds takes place it is to remain under the control of Britain as the Rothschilds control Britain. At that time less than one percent of the population of Palestine was Jewish. Interestingly, the host of the Versailles peace conference is its boss, Baron Edmond de Rothschild.
The Versailles peace conference is also used as an attempt by the Rothschilds to set up a world government under the pretext of ending all wars (which they create). This was called the, “League of Nations.” Fortunately not enough countries accepted it and so it soon died.
Are you sure Alfred didn't write this one as a sequel to the thirty nine steps?
Theres a lot of Rothschilds jam in that chocolate cake. I'll just have the icing on the cake thanks. Bad enuff they own the chateau lafite, but if they own all the cake factories...its only normal their kind sing "let them eat cake in Palestine!"
Hope Francis stays as calm and free as Tom S.
Absolutely fascinating!!!! That ties all the pieces together. Good work.
This might interest you.
http://198.62.75.1/www2/koestler/
Iran has been six months from getting their nuclear weapons for 30 years now and that is unlikely to change in the next decade. The war will continue to be imminent for the foreseeable future. It´ll be business as usual.
The Canadian oil sands are not so bad after all...
Wow, the ignorance of the folks that post to Zerohedge is sometimes amazing..... Facts sometimes need to get involved in an arguement.
1) Syria is a Sunni Shia dust-up, its in the best interest of the west for this civil war to continue and spread both to Iraq and to western Iran. A muzzy fighting a Muzzy isnt blowing up a US building, or rebuilding the Caliphate. For this reason, the US has sided with the Muslim brotherhood and Al-Qaeda.
2) Isreal wont attack before the US election. Why? they risk too much as Barack DOES NOT have their back. If Romney wins its a different story.
3) In a real war, not a politically correct made for TV movie, Iran would be gone very very quickly. They know this and will not start it by intervention in Syria besides money and arms and "Volunteers" they are already sending....
4) Lets have China sell their T-bills, we trade them that for a 20% import tariff on all Chinese goods, lets see who wins that one. Lots of euros looking for a safe haven right now.
5) Barry wont do anything in Syria involving intervention, not before the election.
In summary, Can + road = kick.........
Please! Can we please employ an acronym for the phrase, which has been so completely worn out over the past two years; I get tired of reading, hearing or seeing it?
Let's all standardize to: ktcdtr
Paleeeeeze???????
Cliches: Overused phrases once discarded as tired and trite – rewrite or recast.
Why don't you kill this cliche, use you own words to describe what you are thinking
don't procrastinate get a thesaurus
How about "Fuck the American taxpayer continously"?
I feel like the American worker is getting bent over, Bosnian Serb style, just like the scene in Angelina Jolie's movie "In the Land of Blood and Honey".
We are being savaged by the cartel!
Syria is ruled by Alawites, a minority Shi'ite Clan, now fighting a Civil war with Sunni and Wahhabi/Mushahadeen/Al-Qaeda militants backed by the USA.
The USA is suppling weapons to Al-Queda. So I hear through the grapevine.
Mushahadeen: friends of the USA turns into
Al-Qaeda: Enemies of the USA turns into
Syrian freedom fighters: Friends of the USA
Welcome to the new boss, same as the old boss.
Come now. Let's all put our happy faces on and trust our Gov't! (sarc)
We could argue for months about who is just, who is right, who was there first, etc. Again, it’s irrelevant.—Brandon Smith
It’s not irrelevant where the problems originate; without targeting the instigators and the criminal trouble makers we are lost forever in a whirlpool of misinformation and helplessness. When Hank Williams Jr. can identify the President of the United States as a Muslim, the most supportive President of Israeli policies and Jewish office holders in the history of the country, the popular misinformation has reached its lowest point.
It is what it is and it’s clear that it’s coming from the force that’s financed by the financiers. And these financiers heavily favor empire, Israel, resource war in the Middle East, Big Oil, and control of the political structures of Europe and the United States. Period! It’s not difficult to determine where this emphasis is coming from. It’s not Muslim, it’s not Irish, it’s not Polish, it’s not Russian: it’s Federal Reserve-connected neo-conservative financiers.
An award-winning author and geopolitical analyst, Mahdi Darius Nazemroaya writes on Global Research:
“The Arabs, Iran, and Turkey are being lined up for a major conflict, because the US is losing its superpower status. All that remains of Washington’s superpower status is its military power... Washington is broke, socially divided, becoming racially polarized, and declining rapidly in its international influence…
“Washington seems to be dreaming of this scenario: Kurdish revolts taking place in Syria, Turkey, Iraq, and Iran; sectarian civil wars consuming Iraq, Lebanon, Syria, Turkey, and Yemen in fire; instability and fighting bleeding Algeria, Egypt, Libya, Pakistan, and Sudan; Berbers and Arabs fighting one another across North Africa; insecurity and political uncertainty spreading in Central Asia; a war in the South Caucasus consuming Georgia, Armenia, and the Republic of Azerbaijan; revolts igniting amongst the Balkars, Chechens, Circassians, Dagestanis, Ingush, and other local Caucasian peoples against Russia in the North Caucasus; the Persian Gulf being a zone of instability; and Russia at loggerheads with the European Union and Turkey. Such a conflagration is steadily being buoyed by Washington.
“Ultimately all this is meant to disrupt some of the world’s major energy routes and supplies to hurt the energy-importing economies of China, the major European powers, India, Japan, and South Korea…before it (US/Israeli Empire) steps in to pick up the pieces as the economic benefactor of a devastating war.”
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=32351
That is all to the point JR. It is pretty much as you have written. Se my post below.
I really wish they would stop jaw boneing and START THE FUCKIN WAR.
The level of US media propaganda about the Syria war is pretty good evidence that the American people are being softened up for at minimum direct US involvement in Syria. The Peace Prize winner Obama warned just the other day of grave consequences if Syria doesn't surrender to the US backed Muslim extremists.
This US backing for Muslim extremists is nothing new, but we have now go over to their side again and are using them as a foil to get at China and Russia. I think if you read Neo-Con writings, you will find this idea often put forward.
As to this war drawing in all the players, well, maybe. I am not convinced yet that Russia is anythng but talk, same with China. It all dpends if they have finally decided to draw a line in the sand this time or continue to surrender to NATO/Israel/USA as they have done on EVERY occasion up to now.
I watched a two hour film on the break up of Yugoslavia and the Balkans wars. The USA and NATO were directly involved in this series of wars and encouraged them. The results are mini states with no power and near IMF dictatorship and all public assets in the hands of western corporations at cheap prices. This is a model for Syria and every nation the western powers can get ahold of. This tactic is also well documented in Neo-Con writings.
We will only see this widescale war happen IF Russia and China have surrendered enough and are ready to say "No More USA conquests".
I believe the ease with which Islamists were able to take Libya was encouragement to NATO and a shock for Russia/China.
In anycase, YES, the winners will be a small financial and military elite. We are post democracy and post republic now, we are fully and empire. I challange anyone to dispute this!
You mean the government would start a war under the false flag of nonexistent weapons of mass destruction?!?!?! Once again I give you my shocked face. : > 0
Has the thought occurred to any American, that it might be prudent to wait until the enemy landing crafts hit the Jersey shore? Let'em come here, it's cheaper that way...
Can the enemy wait till after Stripe Bass season.Jersey is my haunts for the big pickle lip beauties.Anytime after Nov 31st would be great.
Iran will get nukes inevitably. Unlike North Korea they do not share a border with a major military power that could offer sustanied resistance to a NATO intervention.
Do you really believe China or Russia will execute MAD policies and risk their major cities for a two bit toothless religious tyranny.
Who would have believed 30 years ago that a western militry footprint in Iraq and Afghanistan was conceivable. Syria wont even cause a sweat. Pakistan if required will be a hard nut to crack to complete the encirclement of Iran. As well Pakistan shares a border with China.
If Iran gets nukes they will be toast, deservingly so. Deal with it.
How do the "hyper-moneyed power addicted .01%" have anything left if all the consumers have had their wealth destroyed? They can't destroy the people they feed off of and still expect to remain powerful and rich.
Something tells me they may be caught up in the chaos as much as anyone else. Perhaps worse. They have more to lose.
Of course there's reason to believe it, and Bibi and Obama (and his opposition of course) have the info to know that. Doesn't make them pushers of anything less insidious and stupid. We have absolute morons in charge of just about everything. We will dumbfuck our way into thermonuclear war, and monetarism was the seed through which the tardedness seeped in.
The funny things is Obama says, that if the wrong people get their hands on chemcial weapons in Syria (if they even have them), or if because of a security situation, they want to move them, all of this brought on by Obama himself, then we will invade Syria.
It's a bit like saying if your nose bleeds because I punch you in the face, then I'm really going to kick your ass.
So let's recap that. Obama illegally in his war crimes many times over murderer Nero way, has said that the situation he created in Syria, in which the Al-Qeada fighters Obama supports, if they or others get their hands on chemical weapons, all because of this foreign created civil war, then we'll have to invade, and waste our troops and their lives again.
Of course odds are the Al-Qeada fighters if Syria has any WMD'S, will find them and use them on Assad or the general public at large, and then Obama will come in and claim the opposite, and say we are now just for invading. Just like what happened with the civilian killings, which really was all on the foreign fighters, not Assad. But Obama sucked cock like a pornstar on that one. Claimed it was Assad, when really it was Obama's guys murdering innocent women and children, just like Obama does on his illegal war criminal drone strikes. Birds of a feather, flock together.
Of course Russia and China should be scared. The what we used to think of as neo-cons and military industrial complex are running quite a scam on us. Quite a scam.
Anyone ever heard of the Domino Theory? Well we're doing the same thing....in reverse to Russia and China.
It's the Reverse Domino Theory. (it is a nice descriptive analogy of the situation)
Seeing how crazy people in America got from the theory (and that was with countries half a world away), to put into context, how might Russia and China react, with countries that border them? Hmmm
Obama is an idiot and stupid enough to back Bibi in his crazy idiocy. Again birds of a feather flock together. The collapse of/by/for banksters, enabled through repeal of Glass-Steagall, implementation of the Euro, amongst other scams, will always be blamed at the other guy, or in this case, those we war with. The problem is, and Medvedev/Putin have said it many times in recent months and years, is that such a conflict, could easily become nuclear in first a regional way, and then maybe within minutes or months, worldwide way.
Impeach Obama
Pass Glass-Steagall
...and you immediately cut the war and economic collapse heads off from the snake. They cannot profit off the collpase if they can't take your deposits AND use that as an excuse to bailout their frauds.
Or we can keep talking about useless shit like spending cuts, or entitlements, or stimulus, or healthcare, or whatever. Without Glass-Steagall, and the absence of nuclear war, nothing else matters. Focus on those aspects first. Otherwise you can't in any way set shit up. Because it'll either be based off the wrong information, or it can come down in a mighty blast of nukes.
Glass-Steagall
If you think Obama is in charge, if you think any of the top players installed by TPTB are "stupid" then you're horribly misinformed.
And if you think that impeaching Obama would do anything (or if we impeached ALL POTUSes going back as far as we could), think again.
See my posting below: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/guest-post-syria-and-iran-dominos-lead-wor...
It's FAR more nefarious than we can imagine. And there is no "fixing" this System (it's fully cooked-in, illusions of propriety laden with nothing but improprieties- but hey, that's really what people want to hear).
But, yes, I tend to agree with your general feelings...
"Conspiracy! Conspiracy! It's all a Conspiracy! What's the Conspiracy Du Jour?"
"The Conspiracy of the day."
"MMmmm. Sounds Good. I'll have some of that."
Imagine there's no countries, it isn't hard to do
No need to kill or die for and no religions too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace
I hope they then wipe out the cast of Jersey Shore first. That might shock Boobus Americanus out of complacency.
From http://www.countercurrents.org/janson170812.htm
With CIA heavily armed organized thugs, CNN deceit and psyop, and UN-US-NATO destroying prosperous Libya (ranked by the same UN as 53rd highest living standard in the world), and murdering a Third World hero, Obama advisers Kissinger and Brzezinski are seeing well to Gen. Wesley Clark exposed Pentagon plan to take down seven nations from Afghanistan to Syria. [Wesley Clark's learned of Pentagon memo: "We're going to take down seven countries. We're going to start with Iraq, then Syria, Lebanon, then Libya, Somalia, Sudan, we're going to come back and get Iran."]
Rockefeller sits at the core of a US led network of the most powerful and influential businessmen and their beholden finance ministers running the world through secret meetings of the Bilderberg Group, Trilateral Commission, Council on Foreign Relations, Aspen Strategy Group abetted by a panoply of uncountable hundreds of institutions like Freedom House and Heritage Foundation, nationwide and internationally with a support net of CIA entities interwoven maximizing its control of all mass media and public education. In 1992, he was selected as a leading member of the Russian-American Bankers Forum, an advisory group set up by the head of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York to advise Russia on the modernization of its banking system, with the full endorsement of President Boris Yeltsin.
Two years following Kissinger efforts at the World Economic Forum's 'India Economic Summit', Obama arrived to photo-opt India's purchase of $6 billion in weapons of mass destruction. The same investor run "community of nations', formerly the "Free World' and earlier "The Colonial Powers,' that continues to mas-massacre in the Third World is maniacally planning a profitable great war with China and Russia.
Drone bombing assassinations in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Somalia, Yemen, Libya and elsewhere, even of Americans without trial or charges (some of whom might have considered themselves luckier than those secretly abducted and tortured) are made to appear for the gullible plebs all around the world watching commercial media as presidential decisions. In reality, who or what millions are marked to die is entirely up to wealth backed freaks in the amorphous cabal headed by sickos like those in the high international conspiracy of private investors like David Rockefeller, who only need to pick up the phone, for they are that "financial element" controlling all three branches of the government it has "owned since the days of Andrew Jackson," as FDR once confided to Cordell Hull. [ letter to Col. House,1933 ]
There was at one time a photo on the internet of a smiling David Rockefeller posing with an arm around the shoulders of a young Senator Obama that truly said more than a thousand words.
At the Nuremberg trails of the Nazis, none of the war criminals who made tons of money investing in massive homicide were indicted. German investors in genocide could not have been investigated without exposing their American connections, partnerships, cooperation and shared earnings and guilt.
If Mankind survives it will have to prosecute* US crimes against humanity at its fundamental cause level: chieftain investors like David Rockefeller.
For if every president from Truman through Obama, and their generals, had been hung after trials under the Nuremberg Principles, the leaders, of the centuries ruling, insanely-amoral, unethically, unfairly and shamefully wealthy, bankster class, satanically impelled to create and continue imperialist wars for unjust predatory exploitative and death causing investments, would merely have found obedient replacements - and just as marketable by the mass media they own and control, as those who were hung.
"old Charlie stole the handle and the train won't stop" - Jethro Tull's Locomotive Breath
THis pictures fails to recognize that in history, all the power maniacs systemically set the path to their own destruction. The reason is that they delusions of grandeur lead them to make horrible mistakes, that is true for Napoleon, for Hitler, Mussolini and all those maniacs, they are UFOs who think that they are unstoppable, while in the greater scheme of things this planet is a piece of dirt in the Universe and those guys are microbes thinking they are gods, when you are a microbe but you know it, you have a tremendous advantage. They will get wacked, they will hurt everyone in their descent to hell, but they will get wacked, absolutely no doubt about it.
I think that the path towards their demise, the "mistake," is a built-in of POWER (and greed). These are the stories of the old, wise philosophers (imagine if, say, "Voltaire" were allowed to establish the permanent ground rules).
Our problem today is that we've amassed such a great number of people in which the "other side side of human nature" can draw from. It's all gotten TOO BIG, and I have no "solution" to rectify, in any benevolent way, the situation. I suppose that when people state "it's in God's hands" is appropriate, as it is pretty much a human problem that humans won't be able to resolve: either "God" or UFOs holds about the only "out" (and neither are readily apparent on the horizon). Perhaps we need to start feeding Black Swans?
You say one very important thing that I tried to address just above. There is NO large solution. Indeed, the problems of mankind are the largeness, or the "TOO BIG" as you put it. The solution is to evade and/or escape ALL forms of centralization, which is what implements "TOO BIG"-ness.
The only hope for [one or a few tiny slices of] mankind now is the appearance and success of [a few] extremely small "spinoffs" of mankind. I mean, one or more small endeavors that actually or effectively split off from "mankind" and go their own honest, efficient, productive, successful way.
The only "solution" for mankind is individualism, and specificially, very small scale collaborations of individualists. As a "whole", mankind is utterly finished. Mankind overwhelmingly chose to sanction and side with the devil, the dark-side, the dishonest-side, the destructive-side --- and that choice and those actions have sealed the fate of mankind. Mankind is finished. Mankind is finished because they turned everything over to predators-DBA-<various-fictions>. Mankind decided to be prey, then handed earth over to the predators without resistance. Morons.
True enough, but one predator failing does not usually lead to replacement by a "good guy".
Sadly, most individuals on this planet are so utterly, completely, thoroughly brainwashed to presume some flavor of authoritarianism, and all flavors of authoritarianism are destructive to honesty, ethics, liberty, efficiency, productivity, individualism and tolerable quality of life.
Therefore, human beings are finished... as a species they will spiral down the toilet of history. Humans had their peek at honesty, liberty, ethics, productivity, individualism and relatively high quality of life... and they clearly and overwhelmingly rejected these in favor of authoritarianism.
The vanishingly tiny minority of us who honestly and actually value honesty, liberty, individualism and quality of life are all we should care about any more. Yes, it pains me too, but the rest have made their decision, and we cannot save them.
In fact, it is unlikely that we can save even a few of ourselves. But some very odd psychological shift has happened in individualists over the past few decades. Today they are almost completely incapble of collaboration [with each other]. But unfortunately, any viable or significant solutions to the coming flush of mankind down the tubes will require more than single individualists can muster by themselves.
As a consequence, the few of us who get it and want a future, refuse to take actions that have substantial chances of significant success. I have tried to organize highly efficient collaborations when I see an opportunity, but for some reason, others who understand seem inclined or resigned to going down with the ship. Many act as if they are frozen in the headlights, and perhaps that is the most accurate explanation.
The only positives I have seen are tiny, seemingly random individual efforts. I have had to limit my actions to individual efforts too, for lack of willing and able collaborators. In one respect this makes sense --- to find individualists acting as solo individuals. However, it is simply a fact of reality and scale that even modest collaboration can achieve enormously desirable results that are simply impossible for individuals, and at much greater speed and efficiency (which we need in spades at this late date in the demise of mankind).
I have no solution to offer. I simply report my experiences and my lament. Though I happen to be working on a project with astronomical potential... enough potential that it could allow a few of us to escape the fate mankind has chosen... time and resources are limited, which threatens to render this endeavor "too late".
The point of my response to you is this. To simply shift from one predator-DBA-master to yet another predator-DBA-master has no value to me, to other good folks, or to "mankind as a whole" (whatever that stupid phrase is supposed to mean). The predators-that-be today are too rich, powerful, organized and technologically advanced to hope that a mere shift from predator to predator holds any positives for any honest, honorable being. The only hope is to escape the coming carnage in some way shape or form.
"The only hope is to escape the coming carnage in some way shape or form."
Survival, isn't that what it's always been?
And that brings me to the other KEY point, and that's that unless humans can find that sweet spot of sustainability (coexistence with entropy) it doesn't matter how well behaved we think we can be. When people get hungry all kinds of issues can pop up. It is, however, most certain that nature will get us there... if we fight it we'll end up doing something really stupid <insert picture of a mushroom cloud>.
Well, I can see what humans could be... if they wanted to... and entropy would not be a major problem. Sure, it would need to be faced and "dealt with" intelligently, but the sick inside joke is that "humans were supposed to be intelligent". BOY have we found out that humans are blatantly NOT intelligent. In fact, humans ARE the dumbest creatures on earth. And yes, I do mean that literally! Humans are literally dumber than rocks. Not a joke.
Of course, some elaboration is required to understand what I mean, and understand the sense in which my statement is correct. Humans are indeed capable of "intelligence"... or at least "consciousness". Certainly more than rocks, anyway. However, the vast majority of what humans actually do with their brains is manipulate pure, blatant, unadulterated fictions! Well, rocks aren't stupid enough to waste their existence being pushed around by fictions! Rocks are literally incapable of such stupidity. Yet humans literally spend most of their time, effort, energy and resources on fictions --- on non-things that don't exist. Now THAT just has to be the ultimate stupid... stupid far beyond the capacity of any other animal, of any plant, or any organism, of any inorganic chunk of existence.
Personally, I have zero attachment to "quantity". I guess you can say I'm a quality freak, with inclinations towards variety and creativity. So I'm not much concerned if 99% of human beings die off. Before I realized what absolute, complete, utter morons humans purposely make themselves into in exchange for a pat on the head (in one form of other), I did care. I saw the potential. Now the actual dominates. So yeah, show me an impressive human, and I'll be impressed, and I'll value. Otherwise? Sorry... you chimps had your chance. It makes me sick to say that, but I know I'm just being honest, realistic and rational.
About entropy. The conventional understanding of entropy is a huge mistake. While I can't prove it beyond all doubt, I'm fairly certain so-called "entropy" is the small scale/timeframe corollary of anti-entropy on the large scale/timeframe of the universe. I didn't say that very well, but this should be obvious to everyone. However, as usual, I had to discover what is right in front of our faces for myself.
Let's start with just about a perfect state of entropy... say... a few million light years of low density, utterly randomized atomic and subatomic particles, and electromagnetic waves... all at a tropical temperature of, say, 3-degrees kelvin. Pretty high entropy, no?
Well, what happens after a long time? Random (entropic) motions lead to small, localized regions of particles in slighly higher density. Those areas have [what we call] greater gravitational attraction. Which draws more nearby particles into that region, which increases [what we call] gravitational attraction even more, which...
Yup, this story takes a long, long, long time - on typical human scales of action... but on the universal scale of eternity, "not that long" and "happens all the time".
And what do we get... eventually?
We find regions of particles that got so concentrated that... they became stars.
So now we've progressed from essentially "maximum entropy"... to "stars".
Well, in case nobody noticed, stars are about as far away from "maximum entropy" as you're likely to find very often in this universe.
The point being, on this huge scale of size and time, this is a massive and incessant process of anti-entropy that creates astronomical quantities of "available energy".
To be sure, what scientists and laymen call "entropic processes" do indeed happen all the time on small scales of size and timeframe. Can't and won't argue that. But like everything else in this not-very-surprising universe (when all is said and done), "it all adds up" and "cancels out" in a most natural way. The other similar aspect of reality is the fundamental "conservation principle" that acts upon the fundamental field that is the lowest level of reality of which everything else is simply a specific configuration. We have total conservation and balanced entropy kids. Very cool.
Nonetheless, people are stupid, grubby, irresponsible pigs, which you are sure to point out. No argument from me. While there is no shortage of available energy or physical resources on a planet that is almost entirely a super-hot ball of magma next to an astronomically huge and energetic unshielded nuclear fusion reactor (the sun)... humans are soooooo stupid and soooooo irresponsible that sure enough, humans might just screw themselves out of existence in other ways if the predators they honor, obey and put in charge of everything don't destroy them first.
The best way for China to have the US get wacked, it just to let the US spend endless amount of money in the middle east and watch its finances self destruct. When you see your opponent is doing provocation by moving the feet and the arms endlessly, you know he is exhausting himself, just let him continue moving his body parts until he falls out exhausted. It would not surprise me if China had accumulated Gold long before and fainting that they have only a little bit.
I think that "feigning" is the word... but, one can faint from excitement too...
IMO China's future isn't all the rosy. They've strapped themselves to the rocket of doom- perpetual growth and they have to import the majority of their energy. If the US destabilizes countries (something that it's a master of) where China gets its energy, well... Both the US and China are fucked: Japan and Britain also, though I think we already knew that; and common to these is that they're really small islands that have to import their energy.
Isn't that from Sun Tzu? Never interrupt the enemy when he is making mistake? lol.
This world needs my benevolent dictatorship. I promise everyone three square meals a day and and one day a week to shop online for your toilet paper and new Lady Gaga pop, all I request in return is your undying loyalty and indentured servitude and I request that Australia be my Palace.
Oh, here's the punch line [1994 EO]:
Executive Order 12919Source: http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Executive_Order_12919
NOTE: highlighted text is from this article, it's not my emphasis; what IS, in my mind, most worthy of emphasis is sub-section "(e)"- this, IMO, is the crack which they can creep through, gives TPTB (string-pullers) the authority to acquire all necessary materials; it's not, however, like this is anything new, as this has been the basic, though not etched in stone, operation for quite some time.
Worldwide nuclear Armageddon is the last card in their hand but they won't get to play it. We have friends in high places. The branches that lead there are cut off. Time will tell.
Dup.
The only people celebrating at the end of the calamitous hostilities will be the hyper-moneyed power addicted .01%, who will celebrate their global coup in private, laughing as the rest of the world burns itself out, and comes begging them for help.
like Dr. Evil
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTmXHvGZiSY&feature=related
Sink everything that floats and then occupy the Iranian shore. Lock the place down and quit trying to emulate UN Peacekeepers.