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Guest Post: Is There No Shame?
Submitted by Jim Quinn of The Burning Platform
Is There No Shame?
“Never be afraid to raise your voice for honesty and truth and compassion against injustice and lying and greed. If people all over the world…would do this, it would change the earth. ” - William Faulkner
I wish I could believe William Faulkner’s advice was possible in the world we live in today. But sadly, I am losing hope in our civilization. We seem to have entered a death spiral with little likelihood of pulling out. Our society has become so degraded and our populace so apathetic and willfully ignorant, that I think we are too far gone to recover. Honesty, truth and compassion have been soundly defeated by injustice, lying and greed. Our technologically advanced society has become a stinking cesspool, devoid of humanity, common sense and morality. Those with the power and wealth who control our country do not concern themselves with quaint concepts like good and evil, right and wrong, or moral and immoral. Sociopaths see no obligation to society, humanity, or posterity. They only care about themselves, their wealth, their status, their reputation, and their control of others. They are incapable of feeling shame or remorse. They blindly march forward towards their own and society’s self-destruction.
Joe Paterno was fired by the Penn State Board of Trustees on Wednesday night as head football coach of Penn State. It was the first good decision that has been made in the last two decades by the leaders of Penn State. The man was told that his Defensive coordinator was seen in the locker room shower raping a 10 year old boy in 2002. He did not call the police and report this crime. He and the other top officials at Penn State brushed this crime under the rug, allowing at least seven more young boys to be raped by this monster. The 28 year old graduate assistant not only did nothing to stop the crime he witnessed, but he accepted a position as an assistant coach, knowing that Paterno and the Athletic Director never did anything to hold Sandusky accountable for his crime. Sandusky was still on campus working out as of last week. The actions of all the players in this disgusting example of how far our society has degenerated are enough to make someone lose all hope for humanity:
- Jerry Sandusky creates a charitable organization so he can gain access to little boys. Multiple incidents are witnessed on campus from 1994 through 2002. A mother reports Sandusky to the Penn State police in 1998 and nothing is done by the men in the Administration. The investigation is dropped, but Tim Curley forces Sandusky to retire in 1999. It is clear that everyone in the top echelon of Penn State knew Sandusky was a deviant pedophile. But letting it become public would have been a black mark on the football program and could have reduced the huge profits generated by Paterno’s kingdom.
- After his forced retirement he is still given access to the campus and locker room facilities. He is caught having anal sex with a 10 year old boy in the locker room shower by a 28 year old man, who chooses not to intervene and save the boy. Joe Paterno does the absolute minimum when informed of this horrific crime. After this crime is covered up by all the key men running the show at Penn State, it just becomes business as usual for Joe and his cronies.
- Sandusky continues to rape little boys for the next eight years because of the cowardice and complete lack of morality exhibited by the men in high places at Penn State.
- With the issuance of the grand jury report last week, the psychotic nature of these men was on display for the world to witness. In a stunning display of arrogance and hubris, Paterno and the President of Penn State announced their full support for the Athletic Director and VP of Finance who were arrested. These men did not think they did anything wrong. They clung to the fact that they adhered to the laws created by other men. In a despicable display, Joe Paterno led a cheer at a pep rally in front of his house with his arms raised in victory. At least eight boys had their lives ruined and Joe Paterno leads a cheer.
- The Board of Trustees summoned the courage to fire Paterno and the President last night. In another display that makes me wonder about the future of our country, thousands of students rioted in support of Joe Paterno, breaking windows, turning over news vans, and starting fires. Are these young people incapable of critical thinking and are just driven by emotion and mindless rage? Can’t they distinguish between facts and lies? Do they care more about football than innocent children being raped?
I have been blind with rage for the last week as I’ve watched the powerful men of Penn State attempt to retain their power and reputations at the expense of truth, honesty, and accepting responsibility for their actions and willful inaction. As I’ve watched this tragedy unfold I was struck by the thought process of rich men in positions of power. They have huge egos and believe they are above the law. They think so highly of themselves they believe they can make the rules and ignore the laws which the little people must follow. They have no moral compass whatsoever. They cannot be shamed. The most despicable behavior by prominent men has been willfully overlooked because these men generate $50 million of profit per year for the university. Their sociopathic desire to protect their reputations and power has led to a scandal of such epic proportions that it will haunt Penn State forever and has permanently damaged the institution.
This is an institutional cancer that eats away at the fabric of our society. It is not isolated to Penn State. It is a societal sickness that threatens to overwhelm every facet of our lives. There is a constant thread that runs through every incident that comes to light. In 99% of the cases it is men protecting men. Money and greed always trump morality and truth. The exact circumstances can be observed in the priest abuse scandal that has rocked the Catholic Church in the last five years. Pedophile priests have existed within the Catholic Church for decades. The Penn State situation shows that pedophiles exist everywhere in our society. The bottom line is that they are sick men and need to be locked up and kept away from little boys. There is no more heinous criminal act than a grown man raping a little boy. Anyone who does this is pure evil and must be punished.
The Catholic Church’s wealth is almost beyond measurement. There are 1.2 billion Catholics in the world. The pope is one of the most powerful men on earth. Cardinals and bishops throughout the world wield tremendous influence over their flocks. As young Catholic boys you are taught that priests represent Jesus Christ on earth. They are treated with reverence and fear by little Catholic boys. Little Catholic boys would never question the motives of a priest. They are taught to obey, because a priest is the same as Jesus Christ. These beliefs allowed pedophile priests to prey on thousands of little boys around the world for decades with little or no backlash. Those crimes were horrific enough by themselves, but the actions of the bishops, cardinals and even the popes who have known about these crimes make it ten times worse. Again, powerful men will ignore rules, regulations, laws and simple human decency in order to protect their wealth, power, and reputations. Cardinals and bishops knew that priests were raping little boys and their solution was to transfer them to another parish where they could find fresh meat. The thought never entered their minds to turn these perverts in to the police. Their only concern was how a scandal would impact their beloved institution. Little boys were sacrificed at the altar of the Catholic Church by evil men.
The cover-up continues to this day. The Catholic Church uses the statute of limitations as their defense against the continuous stream of cases that continue to mount. They secretly pay out hundreds of millions to the victims as long as they promise to keep quiet. They use bankruptcy laws to close down parishes and avoid paying civil penalties for the crimes committed by its hierarchy. They hire public relations firms to create false and misleading stories designed to obscure the truth about the biggest criminal conspiracy in history. The powerful sociopathic men who were supposed to represent Christian teachings have destroyed the lives of thousands of boys in order to protect their institution. The end result is that in addition to the thousands of lives destroyed by the pedophile priests, hundreds of thousands of Catholics have lost faith in the leadership and have abandoned the church. The wealth these sociopaths attempted to protect has been eroded as donations have dried up and lawsuit payouts have mounted.
Not only have our educational and religious institutions failed us, but our financial and political institutions have spectacularly self-destructed over the last decade. Shockingly, these institutions have been run predominantly by men. At one time banks were stodgy institutions that abhorred risk and methodically made profits year after year by lending to people and businesses capable of paying them back. Investment firms were partnerships. If any one partner was to take an excessive risk, they could wipe out the personal wealth of the other partners. Therefore, they never took excessive risks or used excessive leverage. Their boring business model generated modest profits year after year. The officers of banks and investment houses were well compensated, but not excessively so. The leaders of these firms were children of the Great Depression. They understood bad times.
During the 1990's they were displaced by a new generation of leaders. This has not turned out well for our country. These psychopathic CEOs were given the green light by their fellow psychopaths in Congress and at the Federal Reserve to loot and pillage to their heart’s delight. This conspiracy of thieves broke down the barriers between traditional banking and gambling using excessive leverage. They captured the regulatory agencies that were supposed to police them and leveraged their bets 30 to 1. They created fraudulent mortgage instruments designed to lure the stupid and crooked. They marketed debt to anyone with a breath and ability to scratch an X on a piece of paper. They designed derivatives so complex that even their own Harvard MBAs couldn’t figure out how they worked. They bribed rating agencies into stamping a AAA credit rating on crap so toxic that they joked about the idiots they were selling it to. They shorted the very same derivatives they were selling to their clients. These psychopaths raked in hundreds of billions in fees, salaries and bonuses, while detonating a nuclear bomb on the worldwide financial system.
When their bets came up craps, they had the gall to hold the American people hostage for trillions in bailouts. Their fellow psychopaths in Congress gladly forked over the money. Rather than mend their ways, these evil men have returned to their excessive risk taking and continue to pay themselves billions in compensation, while the American middle class is smothered to death under mountains of debt. These evil Wall Street geniuses have shown no remorse as seven million people have lost their jobs and millions more have lost their homes due to the greed and avarice displayed on an epic scale.
Wall Street bankers exhibit the epitome of psychopathic behavior, showing lack of empathy and remorse, shallow emotions, egocentricity, and deceptiveness. Psychopaths are highly prone to antisocial behavior and abusive treatment of others. Though lacking empathy and emotional depth, they often manage to pass themselves off as average individuals by feigning emotions. These Wall Street bankers will never willingly accept responsibility for their actions. They continue to use their wealth and power to control the politicians in Washington DC and the misinformation propagated by the corporate media they control. They own and control the Federal Reserve and will print money until the whole system collapses in a spectacular implosion that destroys our financial system. They only care about their own wealth, influence and status. They have no shame.
When I consider all that is wrong in our society, I become despondent, angry and despairing for the future of our country. It seems that everyone in positions of power across the spectrum of education, religion, finance, and politics are psychopaths, bent upon self-destruction no matter the cost to society or unborn generations. Our nation has degenerated into an egocentric, self-loathing, vain, shallow excuse for a civilization. There is anger flaring up, but it is just as likely to be misdirected and misinformed. The lack of critical thinking skills and the overwhelming effects of media propaganda has so degraded the intelligence of the populace that when the system breaks down in the next few years, the masses will clamor for a savior rather than seeking truthful answers and willingly making the sacrifices required to get our nation back on track. This country will get what it deserves – a despotic ruler and a brutish civilization governed on the basest of principles. This is what happens when a society rewards lying and greed over honesty and compassion. There are consequences to actions and inactions alike. We’ve made our choice.
“By the skillful and sustained use of propaganda, one can make a people see even heaven as hell or an extremely wretched life as paradise.” - Adolf Hitler
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thinking the same thing
Yes indeed. And I realize you meant it in a different context, but we're also confronted w/a similar perversion everyday in our local airport. Government officials grope granny's genitalia in PUBLIC all in the name of non-existent national security, and not a peep out of anyone (myself included). If some pervert did that at, say, a shopping mall, you'd deck himi, and rightly so. Let a TSA goon do, and we look away and hate ourselves a little bit for doing so.
while I wholeheartedly agree with your post earnyermoney, I wanted to add that this
has been sanctioned from way back - many, many children were/are molested by their fathers, who were protected by local law enforcement because "a man's home" was a "sacred" space, not to be messed with, and children couldn't be trusted, nor their mothers who report these things. . . things began to turn around somewhat in the 1980's, but even then most were discredited because a "man's" word was seen as more credible, particularly to all male police forces, which used to be the norm.
and for the record, yes, females also molest children, much less frequently, but it does happen with tragic consequences. what I'm responding to is the systemic ignoring of sexualising children, and the obvious consequences shown here.
it's less about "sex" than it is about power over.
McQuery reported it up the chain of command. Is he culpable...absolutely.
But Paterno was told of the rape the day after it occured. That was in his leaked grand jury testimony. He ADMITTED to being told about it. He choose football and his leagcy over KIDS.
There were 3 investigated instances of Sandusky prior to the 2002 rape.
In 1998 that the defensive coordinator was guilty of "improper conduct with an underage male." Sandusky, thought by some to be Joe Paterno's successor at the time, abruptly and somewhat shockingly retired from coaching in 1999.
It actually gets worse. Madden went on to say "When Sandusky quit, everybody knew; not just at Penn State. It was a very poorly kept secret around college football, in general. That is why he never coached in college football again and retired at the relatively young age of 55, young for a coach."
Sandusky along with Penn State and PATERNO AS THE FACE OF PENN STATE FOOTBALL PROGRAM, was allowed to conduct his football camps on PENN STATE campus until 2010. In other words Penn State allowed Sandusky to procure kids for EIGHT years after the reported rape.
There are now up to FOURTY victims, i would guess that at the end of the day there will be north of HUNDRED.
If you think this is some sort of heresay witchhunt this is my response:
If holding every complicit motherfucker who let kids get raped to protect the reputation of a goddamn sports team accountable is a witch hunt, give me a Pilgrim hat and call me Miles Standish.
My pont, which I may have expressed badly, is that there must have been a "smoking gun". Paterno must have had first hand, eyewitness knowledge of the fact that this guy was a pedophile and others knew that he did and kept quiet. In other words, a conspiracy to cover up.
Saying that Paterno only knew via hearsay from a third party is the bullshit the public is being fed.
Okay.
I understand now.
According to those who have written about collage football for the last 20 years, many knew that Sandusky was a sexual predator. Particularily those in the power structure at Penn State. That is why he "quickly" retired in 1998.
Paterno, by all accounts was very hands on. He had to have known.
The Grand Jury investigation began in 2009 when one of Sandusky's victims (someone he had molested continously over a 4 year period) hit his junior year of high school and finally went to the police.
When Sandusky was arrested Paterno initially said that he "didn't know anything". Three days later and once his grand jury testimony was unsealed, he had to admit to being told about the 2002 rape.
Sandusky didn't retire from his Second Mile Charity until 2010
There is also some speculation and two "prominent columnists" are currently investigating the rumor that Jerry Sandusky's Second Mile Foundation, a non-profit organization aimed to serve underprivileged youths, was "pimping out young boys to rich (Penn State) donors."
At this point who knows exactly how ugly this thing gets.
About as ugly as larry kings dope and sex crime ring got. That nobody ever heard of or did anything about.
dsk didn't ass rape that maid either
Good piece but a tad myopic at the end. Finance as practiced since fractional reserve banking gained a firm foothold was always steal from the future. Wasn't just since the 90s, 80s, 70s, etc.
Finance has probably always been the one evil that transcends all societies. As well as the strong preying on the weak.
pods
Wait until the Notre Dame news breaks...
What, is their leprachaun mascot in some sort of trouble?
He's always after me Lucky Charms!
Silly faggot dicks are for chicks!
Excellent SheepDog and Sweet Chicken. This story is so awful that I appreciate some humor.
its not the dark pools of soros. its the dark places at penn state.........
Thats why you need to drag out corrupt evil 'men of power' and hang them in the town square.
Sandusky should be castrated. Surgically.
The punishment will never fit the crime in this instance, castration comes the closest. Also has the benefit of being a decent deterent.
I am completely serious. Castrate the man.
No need for surgery, an axe will suffice.
Or a rusty ice-pick.
Fuck surgically. Gang of masked men in a bathroom with a rubber band and a kitchen knife and leave the fat fuck bleeding on the floor.
Sledgehammer castration Bitchez! Actually, my real opinion is that we should just kill anyone who would rape a kid or women...Why give them a second chance to ruin another life/family forever ???
+ 1
Any of those kind deserve death. End of story.
Why you weren't raped or victimized. Do a Make a Death Wish foundation. Let the kid grow up let the perp get old let the kid decide what to do to him.
Actually I'd rather advocate a procedure with a cigar cutter.
"Off with his head!"...literally. They should have a special blender made for this and just drop the whole package in and have the victim/family of the victim, hit the 'Puree' button. A doc can clean up the mess later. THEN send them to prison with a 'Free Queer' sign tattooed above their ass and permanent shackles that bind their wrists and ankles together...let's see the next guy manage to deal with that vs. his 'desires'. Sick fucks.
castration won't stop abuse of minors -- a labotomy is the only answer-- proceed with all due haste-
Fuck that, I'll volunteer to do it with my bare hands!
you know he named his self written bio "Touched" back in 2001?? and go read some of those second mile annual reports too.. paints the greatest picture
good shit man.....good one.
so true however sad.....
" Pedophile priests have existed within the Catholic Church for decades. "
Would have said centuries...
yeh and now that this activity has come to light, one has to wonder where else this has gone on? notre dame perhaps, airforce academy, navy academy etc etc.........buggery is everywhere i bet............
Your anger will subside once you accept we are in a downward spiral to hell and there is nothing you can do about it. We are simply too few in number. Giving yourself a heart attack over it won't solve anything.
Yea about all you can do is try to plan for yourself and family a way around all the coming blast zones and sudden pitfalls lined with punji sticks which will decimate millions.
Perhaps this will be the righteous rage that awakens the masses, instead of all of the worthless divide-and-conquer political rage going on?
For one thing, it is firmly targeting the elite criminals who use these child-sex rings to blackmail each other, creating their system of "loyalty."
My guess is that there's some powerful people getting very nervous right now.
Time to start naming names.
These boys will be scarred forever by this.
Many of them will rape young boys that have yet to be born.
Cut the cocks off of these Penn State motherfuckers and make them wear them as necklaces for all to see.
If you read the indictment....GRAPHIC SHIT!! WARNING...GRAPHIC SHIT......but if you read it, it is more than obvious this guy was sick. Caught many times, by many people....all in the name of "horsing around".....once again...read it.....
Not surprising....not at all....sad, but not surprising.
http://www.freep.com/assets/freep/pdf/C4181508116.PDF
I read it when it came out and my bloods been boiling since. Doesn't take much reading between the lines and looking at the dates to see that this sick fuck's actions got swept more than once. The timing of his (Sandusky's) somewhat unexpected retirement late '90's is telling. Shame on all of them.
In reading this it also seemed to me that the grand jury was dancing around the subject of how much Paterno really knew, kind of like they couldn't bring themselves to go there.
It seems unlikely that Paterno did "the right thing" here.
For once I find Quinn's anger at seemingly everything, and everyone, reasonable. Yeah, it pisses me off too. And I think it belongs on this site. Like the pedophiles, what these guys (the financiers) are doing to our society and, very possibly, our civilization, should be arousing fury in all. It ain't. And yet we riot in support of the pedo's? What the fuck?
Just like pedophiles, the banksters are fucking the kids over. Millions of them. And the kids aren't even getting taken to a football game for their troubles.
when you begin to understand sexual abuse, of ANY kind, as a POWER trip, then yes, equating it with the "elites" makes perfect sense.
this isn't so much about "sex" as it is about having power over someone, and children being abused by men they respect is a mindfuck that takes time to reconcile - as the people who spoke up about the Catholic priests abusing them can tell you.
how is this legal? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NAMBLA
Could see this as an episode of criminal minds. Sick, sick, sick.
Some radio host said Sandusky and that charitable organization was really a sex trafficking ring to pimp young boys to wealthy boosters. Said a jornalist was investigating the story. Another shoe could drop in the coming months.
Typical.
Theyre the ones who run the stock exchanges.
Joe will never understand what all the fuss is about- that's the true definition of "psychotic".
Joe hasn't had a clue for years. They kept him as a figurehead to show what a classy program beyond reproch should look like. Problem is every damn program is hell bent on making money.. I can't wait for the education bubble to pop. The universities create professional parasites.
Student Athletes are fucking slaves in gladiator games. Those that hit the big time get major NFL payouts for a couple years then are usually broke within two years after their playing days have past. The influx of has beens and their unintelligible babble on ESPN as color analysts further exhibits what little education they actually received. Universities have become places where kids live out their AnimalHouse fantasies and get bullshit made up degrees. Show me a "successful" football program and I'll show you a school that granted an assload of academic waivers for these thugs to be "students". Then these fuckin brats go to protesting without any shame over what happened to their coach as though he was the victim?? Sick- every aspect of this system.
Yea then after they party for 4 years and graduate and discover their diplomas are worthless, they cry and want you to repay $100,000 in their student loans, as its now 'so unfair'.
It's time to end College Football and College Basketball in its current form. No more TV, no more bowls, no more athletic scholarships. You can have football and basketball but the athletes attend the school on an academic scholarship. For those not qualified for an academic scholorship try your luck in the NFL or NBA farm system
Be at peace. We are lemmings and this is what we do. I didn't choose to be born and live in these times, but here I am so I am going to make the best of it. These have not been such bad times, but I can see times becoming very hard in the not too distant future too. I'm not afraid, and I don't want to spend the rest of my life angry because of the injustice and waste, because as I already pointed out, we are lemmings and this is what we do, over and over throughout the cycle of human history.
Honor, morality and justice will return, but everything must be torn down before we can clear away the rubble and build. We won't live long enough to see it, but it's coming.
What do you call an older woman whom chases a younger man....a cougar.
What do you call an older man whom chases a younger man....a Nittany Lion.
As bad as this episode is I have a feeling that it will be nothing compared to the stupid laws they'll try and cram down our throats in it's aftermath.
There is no shame. There is only personal integrity. You can keep yourself clean. The rest is for the fires that are coming. /said in my out load voice/
Very soon. Can you feel it?
"These psychopathic CEOs "
You mean "these Harvard trained psychopathic CEOs"
Let's not forget where these guys came from -- money and Harvard. Think they give a flying f about the rest of us, not a chance. Harvard did their job a little too well...
This country and culture have a big problem with the responsibilities and deep meanings that accompany the real meaning behind sexuality. any sexuality that demands submission and control is one that destroys the foundations of our society, but too often people confuse personal freedom with being able to do anything they feel will bring personal fulfillment. They put their own individual personhood above all others and if helpless children or even unborn children should get in their way, well personal choice is sovereign and the week are insignificant casualties. The same can be said for the big banks and brokerages, who damn all concepts of fairness and justice as the viabilitity of big political and economical entities take precidence over everything else. Throw the idea of morality and personal responsiblity (as in respect for God among other things) out the window and what you have is a constant battle of powerful feudal lords vying for power and a lot of smaller folk getting in the middle and becoming casualties of these petty egotiscal wars these lords wage.
For those who find any of this less than believable, grab yourself a good stiff drink and read this.
http://www.wanttoknow.info/890629washingtontimesfranklin
This was treated as gossip by nearly all the mainstream media. A book that was released roughly that same time about the Bush family by Kitty Kelley containing a lot of shocking material was also treated the same way. The damage was done though.
Barney Frank's escort service is old news--nothing to see here--just old homos--
That ain't Barney's operation, it's the Boystown trafficking ring I mentioned in another thread earlier.
http://franklinscandal.com/franklinscandal_boystown.html
http://personalgrowthcourses.net/video/conspiracy_of_silence
The fact that students are rioting in response to this jack ass being fired is what really worries me. If even a quater of the population are as stupid and ignorant as these students, we're fucked.
Given the vote leverage that a fraction of a sigma of "swing voters" carries in elections these days, I'd say a quarter of the population is a vast over-requirement.
As I always say, college is the place where stupid people go to get a piece of paper that says it doesn't matter.
getting people to identify personally with institutions that would fuck them over in a heartbeat is what "culture" is all about - witness "military" or "law" or, hell, even "citizenship". . .
it's what herd animals do.
Reminds me of Judges 19
Ok, let's get this straight. Crowds do not think and crowds ARE driven by emotion.
Read Gustav LeBon's book, The Crowd, for the seminal work on crowd psychology. It was written in 1896, and is less than 100 pages long. It is a book you can reread over and over again and will make you think about how modern figures like Britney Spears were treated, and appreciate how very different a crowd is to a thinking individual.
Indifference is a SIN in my eyes.
I want to find the guy who witnessed the rape in the shower and beat his head into strawberry jam for not trying to kill that coach on the spot!
That was Mike McQueary, you will find him on Penn State's sidelines on Saturday.
If I were a Cornhusker player I would be singling him out for a little helmet to head contact.
He's not leaving the safety of the press-box.
The only reason that I can cut him any slack? Imagine being a student assistant, witnessing this event, report it to the most powerful person in your chain of command, and then watch him bury it. What would you do then? Who knows what threats may or may not have been communicated to him by others? Even his promotions can be seen as a form of blackmail, given the reaction to them now. It's quite possible that they were an "offer he couldn't refuse."
That said, I can't imagine witnessing this and not beating Sandusky within an inch of his life.
I can agree with you that, particularly for someone low on the totem pole, one could fail to act in the moment due to fear. On the other hand, he was 28 years old and not a newbie in the program--a former Penn State QB. But, giving him the benefit of the doubt for that, how does he live with that knowledge since then and stay there? I can't find a way to give a pass for that.
He should have quit. If he accepted a quid pro quo (advancement at PSU) to remain quiet and decided to remain at PSU, then he is damned.
He should have walked in that shower, busted up up whatever was going on, called the boys parents immediately and the police as well, and had this dirt bag arrested on the spot. Not one thing less. not one minute later.
I'm sure there was some deal brokered, I just don't see how he could have accepted it though. A child's innocence isn't worth anything he could have gained. This type of crime really shakes my faith in humanity.
Africa's Western Black Rhino Officially Declared Extinct
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-15663982
Sandusky BF the last one of them too?
The church should not even exist, it is a criminal organization in all of its incarnations. Why do I say that? Let's take a look at Jesus. Jesus was created by a being so powerful that it could create a universe. Yet Jesus looked just like a plain everyday man with all the failings of man. So what's up with Christianity? Simply stated, the definition of God has changed from someone who has complete control over a person's life to that of the "Great Creator". Now you will think twice about what being a Christian really means.
As soon as you approve of government and the state, you approve of men inflicting their will upon other men through the threat of violence.
If you do not follow their laws, they will issue fines, if you refuse to pay, heavier punishments will follow, eventually with a death threat.
The government is nothing else but a company of which the members are allowed to initiate violence against tax slaves. It regulates and steals from them and their violence will always grow out of hand in wars and oppression. Their laws coerce the tax slaves in this direction or that, depending on who paid them the most money.
The approval of the initiation of even a little violence in your society, will always grow out to a cancerous tumor, the violence and wars abroad will always come home, because the men in power see force as the way to solve any problem, also domestic ones. The drones that kill in Yemen will fly over New York as well.
It's all more of the same:
Statism, Nationalism, deviant pedophilia...
Preserve the collective (Read: the State, the Church, the Athletic program) at whatever HUMAN cost the individual (read: the victim) must bear.
Look, I'm no bleeding heart, as evidenced by the fact that had I been in the shoes of the graduate assistant back in 2002, Sandusky would be in prison (with a permanent limp) today...
I am rapidly coming to the thesis that man/boy pedophilia manifests itself as the ultimate form of male dominance juxtaposed with male boredom:
"hmmm, I've seemingly fucked everyone else over adequately to arrive at a comfortably unethical station in life, who's left to fuck? Aha! 4th grade boys... "
I can't wait for the human genone project to discover which pathologically aberrant gene this sociopathy is linked to, so we can discover just how mutatedly evil our species has truly become.
As soon as you approve of government and the state, you approve of men inflicting their will upon other men through the threat of violence.
If you do not follow their laws, they will issue fines, if you refuse to pay, heavier punishments will follow, eventually with a death threat.
The government is nothing else but a company of which the members are allowed to initiate violence against tax slaves. It regulates and steals from them and their violence will always grow out of hand in wars and oppression. Their laws coerce the tax slaves in this direction or that, depending on who paid them the most money.
The approval of the initiation of even a little violence in your society, will always grow out to a cancerous tumor, the violence and wars abroad will always come home, because the men in power see force as the way to solve any problem, also domestic ones. The drones that kill in Yemen will fly over New York as well.
http://images.4chan.org/pol/src/1320961892287.jpg
There is no shame, for men or women, that is the problem.
Being judgemental about people became a bad thing awhile back. That allowed bad behavior to flourish because the "If it feels good, do it" crowd went wild.
There's a difference between being overly nosy about what your neighbor is doing because you are curious and being aware when the helpless in the community are at risk.
it's called relativism-- for a full insight into this idiocy read "Coming of Age In Samoa" by educations' icon Margret Mead---
Its actually similar to what has gone wrong in the government. Above the law is an appropriate phrase to describe their outlook. Morality is checked at the door in the pursuit of their greedy aspirations.
agree. 'Above the Law' at least admits there is 'law' its just selectively enforced. If there was a serious deterrent to this crap, our kids might have a chance. People sometimes get caught, but overall there is little fear. I cannot imagine the parents of the kids, and now Penn State can look worse than ever trying to get a bargain price for settlements and minimize any punishment coming their way. If you cannot be a man, and stand up to the entire program after seeing that.................then force Penn State to face more scrutiny for firing you in an effort to cover up, then you are completely lost and I hope you find your way before anyone else gets hurt.
Thank you for posting this, it is refreshing to read a voice of reason out of the noise.
Eisly79..."I eat trolls for brakfast"
You mean "you suck them off".
Do you swallow too....?
every CULT, whether it be conservatism, NAZI-ism, libertarianism or Catholicism, inevitably manifests its glaring sycophantic failure into something perverse and disgusting.
it's only a matter of time before the Milton Friedman-ites and Ayn Randians, in desperation to delude others, turn to perversion (fyi...most of these rabid name callers are already there)
Sandusky gives a new meaning to the term "Football is a game of inches".
game of pinches n pinch hitting in dark places.
... Overheard outside of Sandusky's office. "So, you thought you were a tight-end?".
If "cougars" chase after younger men, what do you call a man who does that?
A Nittany Lion.
so you want to play football . well son, get down there and show me your 4 point stance........
He was a tight-end until he trained a couple seasons with Sandusky, now he's a wide receiver.
I always wondered how McQreary became offensive coordinator after such a lackluster personal career and mediocrity as an OC. I think he got the role to keep his mouth shut. He should be out just like Joe, the President, the provost, the AD, and the entire damn football staff. This is an outrage that McQreary is coaching still. AN OUTRAGE.
Totally, what are you thinking to let that go....how can you not beat him senseless right there on the spot....come what may. Granted he told Paterno, but you could have told him after you got him off the kid and before you go to the police. As that guy is older now, he may see it differently, if he ever has kids, he will see it differently, he has to live with that and I do not envy him.
Agree, time to clean the whole house - all of them should go.
Dude,
McCreary is interim coach because he can keep his mouth shut. Do the math. He won't talk. He'll be given a cush job as interim head coach while the Boysex Donors relocate to Dubai.
McCreary obviously knows something. But they don't want him to talk.
I watched some of the ESPN coverage of the student protest last night. The reporters were asked if they were able to find any students who didn't feel the same as those in the crowd. One said a couple came up to him and told him they were disgusted by the whole scene but wouldn't go on camera for an interview because "they didn't want to get beaten up". So there are some students who see the bigger picture of the horror that is Penn State right now. We just aren't hearing from them.
Sweet hoe (sic) Alabama...So that female rat that jumped ship was right after all about municipal bonds? Who cares, the real purpose of engineered fiscal noise -- like all those other little games we play -- is to avert your eyes from the prize. The real prize is our privilege to be able to create worthless digits and buy your goods and services with them without paying anything of value in exchange.
We don't have to hide the fact that we abuse human beings because it helps us partake in the effluvient energy of God (who is our collective ego). We don't have to find a market to sell our bonds; or make CDSs perform, or even save the financial system for that matter. For we have the power to buy anything -- including a brand-new financial system right after this one collapses. Gold is not our nemesis. All of you will be happy to sell it to us at a higher price at a later date. We will be happy to oblige you with one form of fiat or another. Gold is just another story we tell to make you forget that you are slaves. The proof of our success is that you either vote Democrat or Republican everytime. You vote for us...
Gold, euros or dollars.
It doesn't matter as long as you have a price. Take it like a man. Or take it like a boy. We like it both ways.
Indict the whole City. Never heard of the Sandusky ice cream treat?
They should be in the State Pen, not the Penn State.
NAMBLA
"sick men...need to be locked up and kept away"
The free range predator is no worse than your involuntary law.
Sing it with me everyone....."JoePa - TURD - o"
Well, God is in His heaven
And we all want what’s his
But power and greed and corruptible seed
Seem to be all that there is
"Blind Willie McTell" - Bob Dylan.
Preach it, Zimmy.
anyone sticking up for these people are not much better than the perps.
they should all be tried and put away.
I wish them the same and worse that those poor kids got.
I am apalled the the narcissistic arrogance on display by Joe Paterno and large segments of the PSU accolytes. It is sickening that their pathetic adoration of a sports program and it's leaders results in them throwing away and stomping on whatever vestiges of a moral compass they possessed.
Paterno was so wound up in his legacy that he was willing to doom dozens (100's) of innocent young boys to being sexually brutalized by a monster. His legacy certainly will grow as a result of this, but not in the manner he dreamed of. Victims of childhood sexual abuse are more likely to become perpetrators. So thanks to the senile narcissist and his unseeming lust for a record, new generations of sexual predators have been spawned that will carry coach Joe's legacy on for generations. 50 years from now, youngster will be suffering from being sodomized by perverts because coach Joe really wanted to have the most wins of any college coach.
Was it an accident that this came to light just after he reached the most wins benchmark, NOT!
It is an interesting thought exercise to compare the reaction of people to Michael Vick and Coach Joe. Granted the parallel isn't perfect but is is telling none the less on many levels: traces of racism in our culture, valuing lower life forms more highly than people...
Anyone supporting Paterno is a sick fuck.
What a stupid article. They got fired because it was not good moral policy. Stick to economics or start showing the hangings of non-muslims in Iran.
I know you are taking the piss....or you may proceed in any manner you like in life, as mr sandusky did. You may get a self-motivated, scared-to-tell 28 yr old that catches you in the act or you may just get somone with morals that can swiftly administer corrective measures.....like a flash crash if you will, right there in the fucking locker room.
What the hell are you writing? You fucking know-it-all POS!! What do you think you actually know? FUCK YOU MOTHER FUCKER!!!
This sounds oddly like some Talking Heads lyrics.
I pray that this puts an end to Collegiate AND professional sports. Time to put away childish things and sports is for
children and should not be for profit.
And how about the case of the missing DA?
http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/DA-Who-Never-Charged-Sandusky-Has-Been-Missing-Since-2005-133615093.html
Thx for that link. Found this one on the same site:
http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Sanduskys-House---Next-to-Play...
=> people have started chucking cinder blocks into Sandusky's house, which HAPPENS to be right by an elementary school and playground...
Congratulations to Mr. Quinn... insightful, thoughtful post on a difficult subject!
The connection to the psychopathic behavior on Wall Street is spot on, as the root of the problem at Penn State was (as it always is) greed, corruption, power, and money… couldn’t have a campus scandal putting a damper on any of Joe’s fund raising activity (the real reason for his iconic status).
To the bashers at the top of this thread… get a life!
Right on, Tyler! I hear your anger, indignation, and disgust, and I couldn't agree more!
To all those tribal jocks that are infected with sportsitis and think that every sports "great" should be given a pass, what the hell's wrong with those screwballs?!?!! Is football bad for the brain? Well, it could be, I guess, come to think of it.
Don't you have a little brother, a nephew, a cousin, or something that will get the tribal crap out of your heads long enough to make you act like a decent human being???? Geez!!
Maybe you think you're immortal now, but one of these days, Bubba, you, too, are going to have some explaining to do to the Guy Upstairs. Ain't no way around it, brother!
I say, go work out and get rid of some of that testosterone out of your system, get a girlfriend, if you can, and put your brain, and heart, (assuming you still have one) back in control, Dude!
Get that Tim Allen, "Ooo Ooo Ooo Ooo!" tribal emotion out of your tiny little mind and think of what's right for a change.
Listen to Aunt Ester, "Amen, and Hallelujah! You sinners need to straighten up and fly right!"
Mike McQueary is still on staff at this late date?!
PSU - Pedophile State University.
Now we know why its called Happy Valley. Its because every other creep in that part of the world is engaged in sexual acts with children, or enjoys watching it.
Oh yes. They also really like football.
Burn that campus down as a monument to human apathy.
The Banality of Evil. That is how the Holocaust got created.
Penn State. That that much different.
With every student, each donation, the trumpet of the fight song.
Paterno. Thanks for a great career. Now blow your brains out.
I disagree with one thing you said - I hope Paterno dies a slow, very painful death.
Right on. Sorry, but Joe Ped is mucho guilty. He knew this evil was going on. America may be on the ropes, but I remain convinced there are plenty of Americans left. And, pretty soon, we'll have to fight for it. We'll have our chance, after the Big Crash...
Why is't anyone talking about the fact that this predator is out on $100,000 bail and is walking free to tie up loose ends with his pedophile network, destroy evidence and get all their stories straight. And oh yeah, wine and dine a few more young boys in the shower before jer has to become someones byatch in priz (if he lives long enough to get there)
Lets face it...the timing of this is pretty suspicious...someone pulled the plug to divert attention away from the financial collapse and just like bernie madoff...pedophile ponzi jig is up!
This human trash that supposedly "runs" the world will never make me lose my faith in humanity.
Mere mortals...albeit of the maggot variety...
http://www.illuminati-news.com/072006b.htm
For your info. Just Google 'd notice dunblane'
A 'd' notice is a High court injunction taken out by governments banning reporting on a particular issue on the grounds of 'national security'!
I started reading about Penn State then the article disintegrated into a rant about the Catholic Church? What?
You know folks there are pedophiles on Planet Earth. Yes, even in the Catholic Church. Men sin - only God is perfect. I don't why anyone whose thought about it would be surprised. If they aren't fully punished here, don't worry - God will punish them. There will be justice.
I won't answer any responses to my post. Too many people who hate the Church out there.
so you defend the indefensible?
Every pedo person should be Khaddafied!
i promise you as the old saying goes. this will be the most expensive piece of ass in us history............
on the side...........it is being said down here that in 1999 when penn state came to play a bowl game in san antonio, that our light in the loafers sandusky scumbag was performing buggery here as well. so the police are about to file charges on hm here and a warrant for his arrest is forthcoming. sandusky, you might as well comnit suicide. its over. your life is over. for the rest of your life you will sit in a cell in admin for your own protection from the general population................like obrien killed halloween in 1974, you have killed college football sports........thanks pal, you bastard........
"There is no more heinous criminal act than a grown man raping a little boy"
That's absurd. There are more heinous acts, for example, designing a eugenics program to identify and execute hundreds of thousands of people: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Action_T4
"The Penn State situation shows that pedophiles exist everywhere in our society."
Yes. And in history: consider the pederastic traditions of ancient Sparta and Japan. Clearly it is an aspect inwrought in the nature of human beings, if not animals in general. But the age of consent has slowly increased upward since the time of Napolean. First 12, then 14, then 16, etc. It ratchets upward along with the expansion of statism.
At this point, there are many acts defined as criminal that should not be: e.g. a relationship between 17-year old and 19-year old. Or a student who is in a happy relationship with his teacher with the blessings of his parents: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Kay_Letourneau. The problem with making everything in sight a crime is that it makes the true acts of aggression harder to root out. Probably there are some tragic, bona fide victims of abuse. But how many of the "victims" are simply unhappy because they didn't enjoy the quid pro quo benefits that they hoped for ex ante?
granted. such behavior at one time was accepted. then a man came one day and said that it was not so good and things changed for the most part.....
Dr. Acula, just because perversion and abuse of the innocent has existed for a long time does not make it acceptable. In fact, abuse of the innocent especially by those who claim to care for them is the worst most heinous abuse of power. If you think pedofilia is in anyway acceptable then you too are sick. With regard to the Catholic Church, as I understand it they are the only christian religion that states that "failing to act" can also be a sin. And there in lie the problems of our Nation as a whole. Many think they have no obligation to act when the see something wrong-so it is rationalized. Cover up defects on something you sell, sell a CDO and bankrupt a nation, murder an innocent person, start a war under false pretenses, rape a little boy, there is little difference. All are perverse.
>just because perversion and abuse of the innocent has existed for a long time does not make it acceptable
I agree 100%. That would be fallacious argumentum ad antiquitatem.
It's the same with taxation and government. Just because we've long had a justice system whose operation depends on extorting wealth from unwilling victims and violently dismantling would-be competitors, does not make it acceptable.
Children would be better protected if security and arbitration services could be provided more efficiently, i.e. by competing suppliers rather than ossified government monopolies. And people would be less desensitized to crime if we didn't criminalize harmless acts like trading onion futures or selling toilets with overly-voluminous tanks.
Every group looks out for their own not just rich.
Police, lawyers, poor minorities, even doctors, pilots, truckers. Teachers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1v_BVNGAfYM
the elite are chosen for their sins by their
financial supporters. if they have shame or no
sin they are not impeachable or controlled,
therefore uninvited, not supported. see ron paul.
so the depravity must be present to a degree to gain
access to the patronage. and there you go, we're off
to the races of power and control of pubic figures
from the shadows. no, they have no shame. it doesn't pay
in debt based monetary system, privately run and owned, where
the money creation is accomplished by the creation of debts
to be paid back at interest and in a fractional reserve (optional
when you have repo and off book derivative alternatives ) manner.
we suffer from the institutional transformation of hungry ghost
deprivation, by law, to further the master slave societal format
so loved by your betters with all their dignity and status, culture
if you will. this relationship when confronted by sensible and thinking
revolutionaries was simply codified in terms of governance, law and
finance. the only trick is to make money incomprehensible to the
general public who will sustain the illusion through their lack of
discernment, folly, entertainment and gluttonous consumption, the others
are just beaten into submission.
what does shame have to do with it?
loved this piece mr. quinn. thank you. some day humans may
occupy earth?
well folks, if you want a shopping list for TEOTWAWKI or if you were to happen to come down with a terminal disease, you can always print off the names, faces, charges and address of your local child molestors. Most states have detailed websites with listings and some even provide maps
Sing it with me....."JoePa - TURD - o"
"JoePa - TURD - o"
Joe Pedo of Peter State and its new team, the ButtF*ckers. They always have the best Tight Ends.
The most heinous reaches of hell are reserved for those that take advantage of the innocent they claim to protect and help.
i guess Joe Paterno thought he was the Pope
The way those knuckleheads reacted to this, you'd have thought he took a bullet.
Well said.
fuck yes!!!!!! go jim go!!!!!!
i just read the zh teaser without reading article but my heart thumped with joy at every word you wrote....i can't improve it!!!!
it's not a man thang only.....there are plenty of women involved in the corruption...
my guess is that this sex links to the bush pedophile scandal of the 1980s at lincoln bank in omaha.....tons and tons of pornography was removed from the bank run by larry king (not the celebrity)....it ran up and down the republican party.....all of the milk carton kids were abducted by these old rich asshole men.....it's too long a story to rehash here but you are right about the need to punish these pieces of goddamned shit....
Joe Paterno is a low life scumbag. You cares what that old skeleton did on the football field. Could have possibly prevented countless child rapes and did nothing. I hope Joe P gets hit by a fucking car because he deserves it. Absolute and utter dirt bag. If that was my kid, Joe wouldn't be walking the Earth too much longer. I hope someone takes him out.
You can find Joe's home address out pretty easily. Why don't you go take him out scumbag>
Hey Jlee
So if a dad wants to fuck his son up the ass every night and beats him to a pulp if he refuses you dont think the state or anybody should be allowed to intervene. The father reigns supreme in his authority over the family.
You made that argument on a previous thread. No wonder your wife and kids dont like you and left.
The father is the supreme authority in the family, but he is subject to eternal law just as anyone else. He is not subject to the "state" or authorities on family matters.
I would suspect that ass fucking your own son might be considered a violation of several of the ten commandments, but that's just me.