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Submitted by Jim Quinn of The Burning Platform

Is There No Shame?

“Never be afraid to raise your voice for honesty and truth and compassion against injustice and lying and greed. If people all over the world…would do this, it would change the earth. ” - William Faulkner

I wish I could believe William Faulkner’s advice was possible in the world we live in today. But sadly, I am losing hope in our civilization. We seem to have entered a death spiral with little likelihood of pulling out. Our society has become so degraded and our populace so apathetic and willfully ignorant, that I think we are too far gone to recover. Honesty, truth and compassion have been soundly defeated by injustice, lying and greed. Our technologically advanced society has become a stinking cesspool, devoid of humanity, common sense and morality. Those with the power and wealth who control our country do not concern themselves with quaint concepts like good and evil, right and wrong, or moral and immoral. Sociopaths see no obligation to society, humanity, or posterity. They only care about themselves, their wealth, their status, their reputation, and their control of others. They are incapable of feeling shame or remorse. They blindly march forward towards their own and society’s self-destruction.

Joe Paterno was fired by the Penn State Board of Trustees on Wednesday night as head football coach of Penn State. It was the first good decision that has been made in the last two decades by the leaders of Penn State. The man was told that his Defensive coordinator was seen in the locker room shower raping a 10 year old boy in 2002. He did not call the police and report this crime. He and the other top officials at Penn State brushed this crime under the rug, allowing at least seven more young boys to be raped by this monster. The 28 year old graduate assistant not only did nothing to stop the crime he witnessed, but he accepted a position as an assistant coach, knowing that Paterno and the Athletic Director never did anything to hold Sandusky accountable for his crime. Sandusky was still on campus working out as of last week. The actions of all the players in this disgusting example of how far our society has degenerated are enough to make someone lose all hope for humanity:

  • Jerry Sandusky creates a charitable organization so he can gain access to little boys. Multiple incidents are witnessed on campus from 1994 through 2002. A mother reports Sandusky to the Penn State police in 1998 and nothing is done by the men in the Administration. The investigation is dropped, but Tim Curley forces Sandusky to retire in 1999. It is clear that everyone in the top echelon of Penn State knew Sandusky was a deviant pedophile. But letting it become public would have been a black mark on the football program and could have reduced the huge profits generated by Paterno’s kingdom.
  • After his forced retirement he is still given access to the campus and locker room facilities. He is caught having anal sex with a 10 year old boy in the locker room shower by a 28 year old man, who chooses not to intervene and save the boy. Joe Paterno does the absolute minimum when informed of this horrific crime. After this crime is covered up by all the key men running the show at Penn State, it just becomes business as usual for Joe and his cronies.
  • Sandusky continues to rape little boys for the next eight years because of the cowardice and complete lack of morality exhibited by the men in high places at Penn State.
  • With the issuance of the grand jury report last week, the psychotic nature of these men was on display for the world to witness. In a stunning display of arrogance and hubris, Paterno and the President of Penn State announced their full support for the Athletic Director and VP of Finance who were arrested. These men did not think they did anything wrong. They clung to the fact that they adhered to the laws created by other men. In a despicable display, Joe Paterno led a cheer at a pep rally in front of his house with his arms raised in victory. At least eight boys had their lives ruined and Joe Paterno leads a cheer.
  • The Board of Trustees summoned the courage to fire Paterno and the President last night. In another display that makes me wonder about the future of our country, thousands of students rioted in support of Joe Paterno, breaking windows, turning over news vans, and starting fires. Are these young people incapable of critical thinking and are just driven by emotion and mindless rage? Can’t they distinguish between facts and lies? Do they care more about football than innocent children being raped?

I have been blind with rage for the last week as I’ve watched the powerful men of Penn State attempt to retain their power and reputations at the expense of truth, honesty, and accepting responsibility for their actions and willful inaction. As I’ve watched this tragedy unfold I was struck by the thought process of rich men in positions of power. They have huge egos and believe they are above the law. They think so highly of themselves they believe they can make the rules and ignore the laws which the little people must follow. They have no moral compass whatsoever. They cannot be shamed. The most despicable behavior by prominent men has been willfully overlooked because these men generate $50 million of profit per year for the university. Their sociopathic desire to protect their reputations and power has led to a scandal of such epic proportions that it will haunt Penn State forever and has permanently damaged the institution.

This is an institutional cancer that eats away at the fabric of our society. It is not isolated to Penn State. It is a societal sickness that threatens to overwhelm every facet of our lives. There is a constant thread that runs through every incident that comes to light. In 99% of the cases it is men protecting men. Money and greed always trump morality and truth. The exact circumstances can be observed in the priest abuse scandal that has rocked the Catholic Church in the last five years. Pedophile priests have existed within the Catholic Church for decades. The Penn State situation shows that pedophiles exist everywhere in our society. The bottom line is that they are sick men and need to be locked up and kept away from little boys. There is no more heinous criminal act than a grown man raping a little boy. Anyone who does this is pure evil and must be punished.

The Catholic Church’s wealth is almost beyond measurement. There are 1.2 billion Catholics in the world. The pope is one of the most powerful men on earth. Cardinals and bishops throughout the world wield tremendous influence over their flocks. As young Catholic boys you are taught that priests represent Jesus Christ on earth. They are treated with reverence and fear by little Catholic boys. Little Catholic boys would never question the motives of a priest. They are taught to obey, because a priest is the same as Jesus Christ. These beliefs allowed pedophile priests to prey on thousands of little boys around the world for decades with little or no backlash. Those crimes were horrific enough by themselves, but the actions of the bishops, cardinals and even the popes who have known about these crimes make it ten times worse. Again, powerful men will ignore rules, regulations, laws and simple human decency in order to protect their wealth, power, and reputations. Cardinals and bishops knew that priests were raping little boys and their solution was to transfer them to another parish where they could find fresh meat. The thought never entered their minds to turn these perverts in to the police. Their only concern was how a scandal would impact their beloved institution. Little boys were sacrificed at the altar of the Catholic Church by evil men.

The cover-up continues to this day. The Catholic Church uses the statute of limitations as their defense against the continuous stream of cases that continue to mount. They secretly pay out hundreds of millions to the victims as long as they promise to keep quiet. They use bankruptcy laws to close down parishes and avoid paying civil penalties for the crimes committed by its hierarchy. They hire public relations firms to create false and misleading stories designed to obscure the truth about the biggest criminal conspiracy in history. The powerful sociopathic men who were supposed to represent Christian teachings have destroyed the lives of thousands of boys in order to protect their institution. The end result is that in addition to the thousands of lives destroyed by the pedophile priests, hundreds of thousands of Catholics have lost faith in the leadership and have abandoned the church. The wealth these sociopaths attempted to protect has been eroded as donations have dried up and lawsuit payouts have mounted.

Not only have our educational and religious institutions failed us, but our financial and political institutions have spectacularly self-destructed over the last decade. Shockingly, these institutions have been run predominantly by men. At one time banks were stodgy institutions that abhorred risk and methodically made profits year after year by lending to people and businesses capable of paying them back. Investment firms were partnerships. If any one partner was to take an excessive risk, they could wipe out the personal wealth of the other partners. Therefore, they never took excessive risks or used excessive leverage. Their boring business model generated modest profits year after year. The officers of banks and investment houses were well compensated, but not excessively so. The leaders of these firms were children of the Great Depression. They understood bad times.

During the 1990's they were displaced by a new generation of leaders. This has not turned out well for our country. These psychopathic CEOs were given the green light by their fellow psychopaths in Congress and at the Federal Reserve to loot and pillage to their heart’s delight. This conspiracy of thieves broke down the barriers between traditional banking and gambling using excessive leverage. They captured the regulatory agencies that were supposed to police them and leveraged their bets 30 to 1. They created fraudulent mortgage instruments designed to lure the stupid and crooked. They marketed debt to anyone with a breath and ability to scratch an X on a piece of paper. They designed derivatives so complex that even their own Harvard MBAs couldn’t figure out how they worked. They bribed rating agencies into stamping a AAA credit rating on crap so toxic that they joked about the idiots they were selling it to. They shorted the very same derivatives they were selling to their clients. These psychopaths raked in hundreds of billions in fees, salaries and bonuses, while detonating a nuclear bomb on the worldwide financial system.

When their bets came up craps, they had the gall to hold the American people hostage for trillions in bailouts. Their fellow psychopaths in Congress gladly forked over the money. Rather than mend their ways, these evil men have returned to their excessive risk taking and continue to pay themselves billions in compensation, while the American middle class is smothered to death under mountains of debt. These evil Wall Street geniuses have shown no remorse as seven million people have lost their jobs and millions more have lost their homes due to the greed and avarice displayed on an epic scale.

Wall Street bankers exhibit the epitome of psychopathic behavior, showing lack of empathy and remorse, shallow emotions, egocentricity, and deceptiveness. Psychopaths are highly prone to antisocial behavior and abusive treatment of others. Though lacking empathy and emotional depth, they often manage to pass themselves off as average individuals by feigning emotions. These Wall Street bankers will never willingly accept responsibility for their actions. They continue to use their wealth and power to control the politicians in Washington DC and the misinformation propagated by the corporate media they control. They own and control the Federal Reserve and will print money until the whole system collapses in a spectacular implosion that destroys our financial system. They only care about their own wealth, influence and status. They have no shame.

When I consider all that is wrong in our society, I become despondent, angry and despairing for the future of our country. It seems that everyone in positions of power across the spectrum of education, religion, finance, and politics are psychopaths, bent upon self-destruction no matter the cost to society or unborn generations. Our nation has degenerated into an egocentric, self-loathing, vain, shallow excuse for a civilization. There is anger flaring up, but it is just as likely to be misdirected and misinformed. The lack of critical thinking skills and the overwhelming effects of media propaganda has so degraded the intelligence of the populace that when the system breaks down in the next few years, the masses will clamor for a savior rather than seeking truthful answers and willingly making the sacrifices required to get our nation back on track. This country will get what it deserves – a despotic ruler and a brutish civilization governed on the basest of principles. This is what happens when a society rewards lying and greed over honesty and compassion. There are consequences to actions and inactions alike. We’ve made our choice.

“By the skillful and sustained use of propaganda, one can make a people see even heaven as hell or an extremely wretched life as paradise.” - Adolf Hitler
 

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Thu, 11/10/2011 - 19:37 | 1868208 NuYawkFrankie
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Let he who has not taken a prurient interest in the debasement of young women in internet pornography cast the first stone.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 19:46 | 1868230 thebark
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what a fucking moron you are....watching an ADULT woman in porn is the same as fucking a 10 yr old boy in the shower??? you are a serious fuck up....and need to be eliminated...Id guess you are also a pedophile?

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 19:52 | 1868246 NuYawkFrankie
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Judging by your  hysterical ( and erroneous, I might add)  reaction, i can only conclude that you must "work" for the S.E.C.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 19:56 | 1868259 thebark
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NO...I work for the IRS ......but your still a seriously fucked up person...

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 20:47 | 1868386 topcallingtroll
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That is some amazing moral equivalence.

Consenting adults is the same as an old man fucking a ten year old boy.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 21:16 | 1868432 NuYawkFrankie
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No doubt I can look forward to an audit from the Tax Gestapo in the near future... hmmm... Herr WienerGroper?

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 19:40 | 1868215 Frankie Carbone
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As twisted as this sounds I would posit that when the malthusian catastrophe that looms over us inevitably cascades into fruition, that some good will come of it. Because with it will come clarity. Evil will still be amongst us, but nature will have quelled the noise.

All that will remain will be the ruthless and the thoughtful. 

Who will win is anyone's guess but I will also posit that chicanery and sleight of hand will not work well on those thoughtful enough to have foresight - those that prepared and survived - the long emergency. And with the noise having fallen victim to their own intellectual sloth and resultantly out of the picture, the battle will become much more concise in its goals and it's possibilities. 

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 19:40 | 1868217 Archduke
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while I share the author's outrage, there are other boards for this.

 

sure, there is a link between ivy league coteries and wall street power,

but it's by no means the sole universal way to get there, and I doubt

pedophelia is a winning checkbox entry in a Goldman application form,

so I fail to see how this is in any way relevant to capital markets.

 

for the sake of argument, pretend the post was about something

like "blocking gender binary consensus".  would that be zh material?

Fri, 11/11/2011 - 00:08 | 1868898 Cathartes Aura
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for the sake of argument, pretend the post was about something

like "blocking gender binary consensus".  would that be zh material?

'twould be an interesting topic, but sadly would generate very few comments beyond "WTF??? da bitchezz?!?!" etc. - so no, not ZH material.

THIS post, however, is about systemic corruption, collusion, and an old boys network hiding criminal behaviours - fits right in.

Sun, 11/13/2011 - 02:50 | 1873266 oldman
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back to the castle, arch

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 19:42 | 1868220 thebark
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Sandusky needs to be a MAN for once in his miserable life and do the right thing.....which is to kill himself...

this would relieve his victims from having to testify in court......Joe Pa and the rest of these ass clowns need to STFU and go away....and also consider suicide!

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 19:47 | 1868233 gwar5
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Truth is, there is an epidemic of pedophilia in our public schools that is 2000% greater than the Catholic problem.  There are 2500 cases per year, every year (that we know of) in our public schools and, as with the Catholics, the problem is 75% homosexual. 

Money and greed? How about  ....politics?  People never hear about the public school pedophilia elephant in the room because the teacher's unions and gay community keep it covered up in the MSM. It's way too politically damaging for the fellow travelers in the MSM to bring up the rampant public school pedophilia and rapes going on. But the unions and gay community would do us all a favor if they would acknowledge the problems and speak out against it from within their own ranks. They should be the first to condemn it when it happens. Instead, they shuffle the teachers around like the Catholic church did. Other voices are shut out.

And stupidly they're also engaged in what actually looks like sexual grooming of little kids -- mandatory gay awareness and sensitivity sessions in school instead of teaching them to read. Randi Weingarten, radical lesbian head of the ATF (Amer. Teachers Fed), is all-in with this gay curriculum disaster. If little kids are taught hat you always have to be nice to a gay person, how are they supposed to say "NO" to a teacher who corners them and wants to molest them?  (Why not just teach them it's cool to be nice to everybody?)

Nancy Pelosi praised Harry Hay, founder of NAMBLA - North American Man-Boy Love Association. Keven Jennings, Obama's former safe school CZAR, admitted to encouraging a gay underage boy to have a redezvous with an older man while he was a teacher, and also recommened school sessions on "fisting" and other acts, keeping it secret from parents. This is what passes for thoughtful leadership?

Other stomach turning examples besides Penn State: 1) 2007, Gay (white) Duke University professor adopts a 5 yo black boy, then molests him regularly and pimps him out to other gays on internet. 2) 2010, middle school teacher uses male student for making gay porn films. 

The gay community needs to condemn their pedophilic fetish freinds.  Heteros don't get to condemn it anymore without being labeled a Barney Frank hater and a HOMOPHOBE.


 

 

 

 

 

 

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 20:16 | 1868307 SolanisScumSista
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Most actual gay folk are interested in other ADULTS. It's the repressed, closeted HETEROSEXUALS who commit these acts. There is no group of individuals on the face of the earth exempt from abhorrent behavior, but my personal experience and observation proves out what I put forth. What do you put forth, that old closet queen May-Cow?

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 21:58 | 1868552 besnook
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homosexuality does not make a distinction in age. homosexuality is attraction to the same gender. a male pedophile attracted to young boys is a homosexual pedophile. a male pedophile attracted to young girls is a heterosexual pedophile. are you beginning to see how this  definitions and word usage thingy works?

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 20:20 | 1868310 Seasmoke
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you can label me as a Barney Frank hater

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 19:50 | 1868240 Fraud-Esq
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Looks like a criminal ring to me. Were people threatened? Prosecutor needs to move in more aggressively. Need to make Jerry talk. 

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 20:22 | 1868315 Seasmoke
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defiantely .......1st prosectur comitted suicide or just disappeared.......have a feeling we are going to be blown away (no pun intended) by what dirt comes out on this

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 19:50 | 1868241 Shizzmoney
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I grew up in a Republican household to a Boston Police Officer (and a Nurse who was sweetfully naive mom who didn't like politics; I don't blame her, the shit is complicated and fucked up).

There were two libertarian ideals he instilled in me (some of which he doesn't follow today, but I digress): A) "Work hard and good things will happen" (or work hard and be in debt, like I am) and B) "Don't let others think for you, think for yourself" (a base off of a Miyamoto Musashi quote: "Use your head, or someone else might").

American society was FOUNDED on these two basic principles (amongst others).  It was also founded upon compassion, one of the very few things we inherited from our religious texts (not the institutions themselves, however).  My mom, a nurse, always told me how compassion grounds you, that working together, despite differences or appearances, makes life a bit more whole as contributions to society aren't always measured in giving away dollars.  Time, effort, and a compassionate heart, is equally, if not more, important.

Heart is what makes you make the right decisions.  Heart is what creates sound societal logic.  Heart is what makes athletes excel on the field despite injury, talent, fatigue.  Heart is what makes you defend in fairness for not only you, but others, as "do onto others as you would to yourself" was so rightly put by Jesus Christ.

I have always been a stanch advocate for helping out Veterans.  My dad served during Nam  (which we all know was a bullshit war).  I rememeber countless homeless vets at the JP Vet Hopital who always dealt with stuff that wasn't always reported on the news, like alcoholism, drug abuse, and post tramatic stress disorder.  All of this usually stemmed from two things: their experiences in war, and their post-lives AFTER war.  And most of it triggered by the fact they couldn't get a job because alot like Afghan/Iraq war vets, they came back into a recession (76-83) that, unlike this one (yet), hit urban areas VERY hard.  I see this creeping back into our cities as vets i nnot just when I voluteer at Veteran Homeless shelters for the older crowd, but also in young ones, like my friend Noah (22).

He can't find any work right now besides being a bouncer or on a construction site (if he is lucky).  He sends out 5-10 resumes a day, and I often (along with his roomates+my freinds) give him tips on job networking and searches.  But, it's been a ton of dice-and-craps for him, especially in a city like Boston where umemployment is at 7.5% (but is also HIGHLY competitive with all of the college grads, interns, and high tech skill workers).  Not the place where businesses, while close to home, values a college degree more than a guy who sat in a foxhole, in 100 degree desert heat clutching to an M-16, wondering when the next Mortar strike is going to be launched by insurgents.

Instead, he spends his day watching sports, drinking with us and his USMC buddies, and going back home (CT) to spend time with his family.  He also LOVES chasing tail, and god bless his young ass, I miss doing it myself as a young buck (and I am only 30!).  When you are discouraged to find something that works for your life to produce wealth for yourself, you live it (it's one of the perks of being unemployed.......well, until your cash runs out).     

That's why today I went on the BIGGEST fucking tilt when I saw that *1* Senator had voted against the Veteran Jobs bill.  Granted, I haven't read it, so their maybe some bureaucracy in there, but from what I read on The Hill and other politcal blogs I respect, it had provisions to help Vets get jobs, would provide new dollars for retraining older unemployed veterans for high-demand fields and includes programs designed to make it easier to get civilian certifications for military training. It also  extends tax credits to businesses that hire unemployed veterans (obviously, b/c the only time corporations seem to pick people up these days is when they get their carrot).

Then Jim DeMint, the same dickbag who (correctly) blasted the XMAS tree tax yesterday and grandstanded over it like it was a deer carcus he just shot down, says this after he was the ONLY one in the Senate to vote against the bill, on the BIRTHDAY OF THE UNITED STATE MARINE CORPS, none the less:

http://www.airforcetimes.com/news/2011/11/military-veterans-jobs-bill-demint-tax-credits-110911w/

“I know what I am about to discuss won’t be very popular — I’ll probably be accused of not supporting veterans by the politicians pandering for their votes — but I am not going to be intimidated to vote for something that may make sense politically but is inherently unfair and it isn’t going to work", DeMint said.  “I cannot support this tax credit because I do not believe the government should privilege one American over another when it comes to work."

The military vets FIGHT for our freedom.  If I ever lost *my* job to a military vet, I would be obviously dissapointed to what had happened to me, but 1000x's happier that a serviceman/woman is getting the opportunity they deserve BEFORE me because THEY PUT THEIR LIFE ON THE LINE TO MAKE SURE I COULD LIVE IN A SOCIETY WHERE I COULD GET WHATEVER JOB I WANTED.

No Shame?  The author of this article, which is brilliant, is being kind to society's "leaders", who tell us that pandering to veterans is wrong in the name of fairness, but yet pandering to a corporate lobbyist signing the back of a check in a closed office during a SUPERPAC luncheon, is good for America.

Wanna know what Americans have lost to greed, lies, deception, and control through subversive propaganda and bureaucracy?

Heart.

 

 

 

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 19:54 | 1868253 twotraps
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agree

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 20:00 | 1868271 blindman
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heart, the seat of intellect.
Beyond Genesis – The Revolution of the Mind
http://verbewarp.blogspot.com/

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 20:32 | 1868339 oddjob
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Handouts are a bitch.

Fri, 11/11/2011 - 00:47 | 1868988 Cathartes Aura
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yours is a very thoughtful post Shizzmoney, reflects well on your family values, and upbringing - don't often hear guys talking respectfully of their parents on the 'Hedge.

and it's with respect that I'm replying to your post, to point to a couple of ideas that might make sense to you one day going forward.

PTSD wasn't acknowledged for the Vets returning from Viet Nam - despite the fact that the average age of a soldier then was 19, barely out of school, certainly not well equipped to deal with the insanity of that war.  from your description of your friend Noah his drinking, hanging with Vet pals, "chasing tail" - he may be back stateside, but he's still acting like a "soldier" - which suggests to me that he's not yet come to terms with the reality of what he was deployed for.

when you write "The military vets FIGHT for our freedom" - I wonder if you've really thought about this, or if your compassion for these Vets clouds the reality of war.  ZH has plenty of thoughtful posts that deal with this, so I'll not belabour the point here, just say that wars are fought for profits, banking & corporate, usually for land / resources - the people involved, on "either side" are completely irrelevant to those who set these scenarios up - they are expendable in the eyes of the elites.

it's this growing awareness in the minds of Vets that gnaws at their reality - on the one hand they are lauded for their fight for "freedom" & on the other hand tossed on the scrapheap when their usefulness is done - not to mention the toxins their bodies deal with, the memories & scars they carry - if they have a conscience, it will hurt them until they reconcile their experiences.

I've listened to many "veterans" over the years, and I'm sure you'll agree that letting them tell their stories is difficult, but important "service" - one thing that crops up often is they don't feel part of anything any more - their culture tells them they're a "hero" (or a "tool") - they feel like they're living a lie, but can't escape, and it eats away inside - many re-enlist, or find "drinking buds" with similar histories / anger / pain.  some assimilate back into their cultural roles, of course, but in a cultural breakdown / shift such as the world is undergoing now, it's increasingly difficult to just be "normal" any more.

anyhow, I appreciated your post, take care.

 

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 19:53 | 1868245 Kokulakai
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Take that which they traded their souls to protect.

Ban Penn State from football in perpetuity.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 19:54 | 1868255 walcott
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What about Barney Frank. He keeps getting re-elected and they throw that fucked up creep on TV almost daily.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 20:08 | 1868293 SolanisScumSista
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What ABOUT Barney Frank? Last I checked, he wasn't a vile pedophile. Pedophile are exclusively rich, white "family" heterosexual. Dispute that? OFFER PROOF.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 21:03 | 1868402 Everybodys All ...
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I find it odd that sodomy of a minor is rightly abhored by society and yet as soon as that "kid" turns 18 society does a 180 and finds this sexual behavior perfectly fine. In fact society wants the homosexual lifestyle to be taught in schools all over the country and in fact to many minors. Junk me all you want but I find the whole behavior wrong.

Fri, 11/11/2011 - 01:02 | 1869020 Cathartes Aura
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"sex" with minors, of any variety, is considered "wrong" because young people haven't had the life experience to be able to avoid sexual predators, who manipulate to get whatever they want.

"sodomy" was illegal for hetero couples too - maybe still is? not up on the laws any more, and the legal definitions, but here's a quick wiki reference:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodomy#Legal_usage   so, a hetero couple could be, theoretically, prosecuted, though I doubt anyone cares now.

as to the "homosexual lifestyle" - well, if you have a substantial portion of the legal citizens who consider themselves "homosexual" and can vote or are taxed, etc. - then it's hypocritical to deny them their civil rights.  I'm not so sure what "lifestyle" means to you, but I'd say heterosexuals are just as likely to be "perverted" as anyone, no need to single out the gay communities for special attentions.

BUT, I do agree that the overemphasis on sexuality of ANY type doesn't belong in school curriculum - however, we live in a disintegrating, childish culture, and the institutions add to the dissonance, sadly. 

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 19:54 | 1868256 americanspirit
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Excellent piece that doesn't go far enough. It is not just that men are always protecting other men in institutional settings, even those who commit the most heinous of acts. However, it's not news to anyone that it is almost exclusively men, and male-dominated institutions in every culture which make war, exploit people, create suffering and pain, rape, desecrate, pollute and destroy, and promote anger, vengeance, hatred and cruelty. While there is little room in this tough, mean male world for men who express love and caring, it is expected, demanded, and coerced with little or no compensation from all women. In every major world culture deeply ingrained male institutions assure that the benefits of love and caring are available essentially for free to men from childhood onwards.


For endless generations what little love and care there was in the world was delivered primarily by women in their roles as mother, wife, big sister, nursemaid, nanny, teacher, nurse, laborer, prostitute, and slave to their children, men, and family, and to their exploiters, owners, and employers. In return for this love and caring women have historically been paid little or nothing, and for most of history it has simply been expected of women by males and their institutions, and women have had no choice but to go along with this elaborate, degrading, and ultimately destructive pretense.

 

This is the real crime represented by the Penn State tragedy - just another case of men destroying what love has built - in this case the lives of young boys.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 23:38 | 1868796 Bob
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Male evil is but one side of a full coin.  Each serves the same purpose in different ways. 

Not that you shouldn't love your mommy for ever and ever, but really, you don't have to be a blind gender bigot to justify it. 

Fri, 11/11/2011 - 17:48 | 1871022 FreudianSlip
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We are missing the huge cultural disparity here.

 

A man witnesses another man having anal sex with a 10 year old boy, does not stop the rape, does not call the cops but later tells a coworker to pass it up the line of other administrative men.

 

If the same man was witnessing another man raping a 10 year old girl in that shower...he probably would stop the rape, beat the crap out of the sexual abuser and immediately call the cops.

 

Our culture appears to do little to protect little boys (actually what culture does).  And if a grown man is raped by another man it is seldom ever reported anywhere.  Men learn to hide the sexual abuses perpetrated against them by other men.

 

Is this considered part of learning to be a tough guy?  Or, does this create more sexual abusers?

 

We have a serious cultural problem regarding sex among men, and no one discusses this or reveals the sexual abuse men receive as a child or adult.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 19:58 | 1868264 loveyajimbo
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It will be just terrible when some guy or guys, perhaps recently diagnosed with a terminal disease, takes to the guns and blows away Blankfein, Dimon and a few other crooks like Wolfowitz, Cheney Gensler, Holder, Card, the SEC head, etc...  I am very worried it will come to that and I sure hope it does not...

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 20:51 | 1868395 JLee2027
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Why waste a good bullet? I'd rather they just /////////// leap out a window from a tall building.

Only kidding of course. They'll get their due in good time.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 23:00 | 1868690 calgal
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VWT

Very Worried Troll

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 19:59 | 1868266 besnook
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the greeks warned us about this a long, long time ago. there is apropensity for men to want to have sex with young boys that becomes an especially acute urge after the age of 40. the greeks called it mentoring. todsy, it is plain old buggery.

 

so everyone is upset at joe pa but the guy who actually saw the act. the guy who  should have made a police report gets off(lol) with hardly a mention in the press and his job and career intact. the police department that knew about this guy since the 90's ruins a guy's legacy talking about moral responsibility. and the noard of trustees fires joe at the first sign the football program may be negatively impacted.

 

meanwhile bankers have ripped off trillions of dollars, ruined millions of lives and wlk around acting like they are doing god's work with little interruption of their business and lives. cops can act with impunity and politicians can lie and cheat without worrying about any consequence. fn amazing what the prioties of the usa have become. not many people have much of a clue what it means to live an ethical, moral life because morals and ethics have been left up to individual interpretation. i am sure sandusky thought he was doing the moral and ethical thing to massage those kids prostates just as the greeks thought so, too.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 20:46 | 1868382 Ralph Spoilsport
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How many men over 40 really feel this attraction to young boys? I think I see a classic case of psychological projection in your statement.

Fuck Paterno's "legacy". Fuck the Nittany Lions too. Something has always been wrong with that outfit.

Sandusky's brain has been squirming like a toad for many years (sorry Jim). He doesn't really think like a human being. Like any psychopath, all he does is run a game to fulfill his compulsions at all costs.

What a fucked up post you JITBAG.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 21:34 | 1868499 besnook
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the shallow water is fine. stay there you'll will likely drown if the water is deeper than your knees.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 19:59 | 1868267 jse111
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Did Ray Gricar Get Tony Sopranoed?

http://tiny.cc/8jje4

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 20:34 | 1868347 Ralph Spoilsport
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Yup.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 20:45 | 1868378 NuYawkFrankie
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Probably hangin out with Jimmy Hoffa.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 20:04 | 1868280 SolanisScumSista
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You BETTER include little girls in your "most heinous crime" classification. This shit's been going on forever, it's about time everybody woke up to the smell. And DON'T act so damned surprised, we've been wrinkling our noses at this forever while the same self-serving pigs are fabricating fiction about Lesbians who want nothing to do with their shameless perversions. Disgusting.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 20:16 | 1868306 fonzanoon
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 Maybe I am old fashioned but I think if this happened years ago one of the fathers of these kids would have taken Sandusky out.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 20:31 | 1868338 Ralph Spoilsport
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I agree. But organized crime has a way of letting troublemakers know that they need to get their thinking straight, or else. College football is big money and the betting is all cash.

Fri, 11/11/2011 - 02:30 | 1869144 Joy on Maui
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My sense is that these kids mostly had no fathers in their lives (I am sure they were targeted/selected for that very reason).

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 20:19 | 1868309 lakecity55
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Gee, sounds like they are those illuminati dudes who supposedly rape and sacrifice little kids. Looks like Talibama's gonna have to find a new source of sex partners, at any rate.  Maybe the whole place is run by pedophiles. Ped State.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 20:21 | 1868313 Ralph Spoilsport
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For one thing, everybody around Happy Valley knows that PSU has been mobbed up since the sixties. All of the restaurants are operated by mustache Pete types. It was no problem getting rid of the troublesome DA. He was going to be bad for business.

The Creamery ice cream joint had a sundae that has 2 scoops of ice cream and an upturned cone so it looked like a dick. It was named after Sandusky.

Paterno has an out because Pennsylvania is a corrupt state with bizarre laws. The way the law covering this is written, Paterno was only required to inform his superior in the organization. The law doesn't require informing the police. Now the pols are scrambling to rewrite the law because all this is bad for business.

There are a shitload of connected people who graduated from PSU who have something to hide when the shitstorm really gets going about this pedophile ring Sandusky was running. He won't live very long, let alone stand trial. That's the word on the street anyways.

I'll never watch college football again.

Fri, 11/11/2011 - 01:03 | 1869022 Melville1977
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So you think the D.A. was killed? The way he "disappeared" was suspicious. If it is proven a pedophile ring was operating at PSU, it may ruin it financially.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 20:22 | 1868316 Catullus
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Enough with the moral high ground. This is the typical angry white middle class male response over these types of incidents.

What are most of you so pissed off about with the Penn State incident? JoePa didn't rape anyone.  The university did not rape anyone.  Their sin is what? Not reporting it to the police? And this is analogous to the rampant financial fraud on Wall Street? Here's the difference: the rules on Wall Street are written to benefit the largest banks and even when you discover massive fraud, the regulators ignore it. 

And if you can't see how this story has been framed to make the bigger crime "not reporting to the police", then you don't have the critical thinking skills to know what this is all about and where this is headed.  The government would love nothing more than to make a crime out of not telling them about crimes.  The most oppressive regimes in the 20th century did the exact same thing.

If I were these kids, would I sue the ever living shit out of the university? Of course. But that kind of justice doesn't seem to be enough for some of you.  You want to see the world burn.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 20:58 | 1868416 Ralph Spoilsport
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All hail Discordia. Burn the infection out. Let the temples of the moneylenders fall. Just like the ending of Fight Club.

How's that?

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 21:08 | 1868440 blunderdog
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The government would love nothing more than to make a crime out of not telling them about crimes.

This is already true in many places and situations.  You have to check the state laws and all (states' rights, yay!) to know for sure in your area, but there are plenty of things that you'd be prosecuted for if you don't report that you witnessed it.

This isn't a new idea.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 21:49 | 1868531 Sathington Willougby
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You can't sue your life back?  Do you recognize the cyclical nature of abuse?  It's a fucking disease.  You want to be part of it?  Or kick the fucking shit out of it?  Life demands engagement.

Ever wonder why these guys get shanked in prison first day?  What goes around comes around.  That's why.

 

It took so long to remember just what happened.
I was so young and vestal then,
you know it hurt me,
but I'm breathing so I guess I'm still alive
even if signs seem to tell me otherwise.
I've got my hands bound and
my head down and my eyes closed,
half-closed, wide open.

Do unto others, what has been done to me,
Do unto others, what has been done to you?

I'm treading water,
I need to sleep a while.
My lamb and martyr, you look so precious.
Won't you come on up closer,
close enough so I can smell you.
I need you to feel this,
I can't stand to burn too long.
Release in sodomy.
Oh, for one sweet moment I am whole.

Do unto you now, what has been done to me,
Do unto you now, what has been done?

You're breathing so I guess you're still alive
even if signs seem to tell me otherwise.
Won't you come on a bit closer,
close enough so I can smell you.
I need you to feel this.
I need this to make me whole.
Release in sodomy.
For I am your witness and
blood and flesh can be trusted.(X2)
And only this one holy medium brings me peace of mind.

Got your hands bound, your head down,
your eyes closed.
You look so precious now.

( Show me something
Thought I could make it end
Thought I could wash the stains away
Thought I could break the circle if I
Slipped right into your skin
So sweet was your surrender
We have become one
I have become my terror
And you my precious lamb and martyr.) *

I have found some kind of temporary sanity in this
shit, blood, and cum on my hands.

I've...come...round...full circle.
My lamb and martyr, this will be over, soon.
You look so precious.(X4)
You look so precious, now,
You look so precious...

 

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gf1vC8ubnkY

 

Suicide Note from a Child Rape Victim:

 

http://gizmodo.com/5726667/the-agonizing-last-words-of-bill-zeller

"My first memories as a child are of being raped, repeatedly. This has affected every aspect of my life. This darkness, which is the only way I can describe it, has followed me like a fog, but at times intensified and overwhelmed me, usually triggered by a distinct situation. In kindergarten I couldn't use the bathroom and would stand petrified whenever I needed to, which started a trend of awkward and unexplained social behavior. The damage that was done to my body still prevents me from using the bathroom normally, but now it's less of a physical impediment than a daily reminder of what was done to me."

 

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 20:27 | 1868326 Catalyst
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All religions are fucking trash but let's not beat on Christianity without mentioning the others.

Filthy Muslim ragheads have been emulating the actions of their murderous pedophile prophet for centuries. 

The revered Ayatollah Khomeini of Iran has written at length about fucking babies and animals:

 

 

Sexual Perversion in Islam

 

Pedophilia: "A man can marry a girl younger than nine years of age, even if the girl is still a baby being breastfed. A man, however is prohibited from having intercourse with a girl younger than nine, other sexual acts such as foreplay, rubbing, kissing and sodomy is allowed. A man having intercourse with a girl younger than nine years of age has not committed a crime, but only an infraction, if the girl is not permanently damaged."

Bestiality: "A man can have sex with sheep, cows and camels and so on. However, he should kill the animal after he has his orgasm. He should not sell the meat to the people in his own village; however, selling the meat to the next door village should be fine." 
http://www.islam-watch.org/Others/Islamic-sexual-perversion.htm

Rape of young boys and homosexuality are also prevalent in Islamic society as it does not constitute intercourse.

Ragheads are sick fucks. 

 

 

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 20:28 | 1868334 jse111
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Mark Madden on Sandusky's "Work:"

http://tiny.cc/9lfcx

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 20:32 | 1868342 Its_the_economy...
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TD,

Thank u for this post. I needed to read it. All of America needs to hear it.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 20:39 | 1868358 Kina
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For those up in arms on ZH not sticking to pure economic issues I think you will find they are growing and are also documenting some of the facets of the decline of empire. And it is all kind of related.... power-corruption-economy-moral and ethical decline.....

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 20:50 | 1868394 Ralph Spoilsport
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Exactly. This is all part of the documentation of our decline. It's hard to separate the moral decay from the economic failure caused by people very like Sandusky and his protectors.

Go go Godzilla....yeah.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 20:55 | 1868408 Catalyst
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Because America is the only country with pedophiles....

Fri, 11/11/2011 - 00:55 | 1869001 Smiley
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The true space monkeys aren't scared.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 20:41 | 1868363 Kina
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Seems this has been a very good post - look at the number of replies and the intensity. Well done ZH.. making people think and examine.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 20:43 | 1868368 divide_by_zero
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Interesting how most of the MSM/progressive news outlets were branding this a "sex scandal" rather than a "child-rape" scandal, no judging was the priority I guess.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 20:45 | 1868372 Teresa_Lo
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The outrage is now turning to the then 28-year old Mike McQueary, a 6' 4" former QB who should have had nothing to be afraid for physically.

Why did he do nothing to save the boy?

It is "the code".

Video at http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036697/vp/45247799#45247799 

 

 

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 20:52 | 1868400 Ralph Spoilsport
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In other words, he didn't want to get disappeared. It's that thing of theirs, La Cosa Nostra.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 20:45 | 1868377 stiler
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I think it was Thomas Aquinas who believed man was fallen in Adam's sin except for his mind. Many since him have believed that faith and reason are separate. So the average Catholic can say that he is born again, while he might not believe Jesus Christ was a man, or maybe he'll concede the "historical Jesus", and he believes Darwinism instead of Creation. But he will say that he has "faith". This is non-reason or absurdity.

Their doctrine of the infallability of the Church accounts for all their lawfully unlawful pedophilia.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eS4UwMJvGQ8&feature=related

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 21:15 | 1868455 blunderdog
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Aquinas didn't come up with the idea--he was revered for bridging the gulf between the reason/faith arguments which had been running for a few hundred years.  He's the guy to read if you're interested in the subject.

The elegance of his solution/argument was that it vindicated BOTH the gutbucket approach to faith AND the intellectual argument for God, thus permitting the illiterate the same salvation the educated would receive. 

Faith was for the stupid...reason for the educated clergy...direct revelation for the saints.

Note the dovetail with the Trinity, etc etc.  Smart guy.  His proof sucked, though.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 20:48 | 1868387 batterycharged
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Morality and ethics are structures of convenience. Let's get real.

PSU fans and adminstration would overlook even more young boys getting raped if they knew they'd get another 2-3 National Championships out of it.

I think you're on the right track, but too myopic on the topic.

People only pursue moral paths when it's convenient.

Extrapolate the PSU situation to US consumers. Do Americans have an issue with buying an iPhone that was built by kids working every day a month for $200? Kids that commited suicide to get out of work?

Ever hear of BLOOD DIAMONDS?

How about all the Iraqis dying so we can fit our fat asses in a giant fucking SUV?

You enjoy that fruit that was picked by children illegally for $1s per day? I don't hear you complaining about that.

Get off your fucking high horse. Morality is only pursued when it's CONVENIENT.

It's sad, but it's the truth. It's like thinking that politicians actually have a core belief system and don't just do whatever the hell some monied-interest tells them to do.

The world is an unjust place. People are fucking pigs, not saints.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 20:57 | 1868414 markar
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The term "Ped State" should stick to this institution until they suffocate for lack of students who don't want to be associated with it.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 21:02 | 1868429 BanksterSlayer
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TheOnion.com to the rescue:

Sports Media Asks Molestation Victims What This Means For Joe Paterno's Legacy

"This is obviously a sensitive subject for you, and I understand how difficult and uncomfortable it must be to talk about the abrupt end of JoePa's career, but as a journalist, it's my responsibility to weed past the 40 counts of sexual misconduct over a 15-year period and the gross negligence on the part of school authorities and ask about what is really important here: Joe Paterno's football accomplishments," Steve Wieberg of USA Today said to one anonymous victim, who was 10 years old when Sandusky assaulted him and who now suffers from irreparable emotional and psychological damage. "He is the winningest Division I football coach of all time and a man whose very name is synonymous with excellence. As a Penn State fan yourself, this must be very tough for you."

 

http://www.onionsportsnetwork.com/articles/sports-media-asks-molestation...

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 21:07 | 1868435 G-R-U-N-T
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"I have been blind with rage for the last week as I’ve watched the powerful men of Penn State attempt to retain their power and reputations at the expense of truth, honesty, and accepting responsibility for their actions and willful inaction."

 

Welcome to Obama's America beaatch!!!

 

....

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 21:17 | 1868458 blunderdog
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Paterno would've gone to the authorities in '02 if the Illuminati hadn't told him we were gonna elect that nigger in '08.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 21:59 | 1868555 mendolover
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WOW!  Seriously?

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 22:43 | 1868631 blunderdog
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No, I was joking, just like the guy I was replying to. 

This whole thing really is all Obama's fault.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 21:10 | 1868449 cosmictrainwreck
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WOW. Slow news day financially - or otherwise - I guess...........

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 21:16 | 1868457 overmedicatedun...
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if you think every evil smuck you have met or seen in the news is a human..you have made your first mistake.

if you think (as some post here) that sociopathic homosexual pedophiles are human..you have made your second mistake..(B Frank was brought up here as being Just a Normal homosexual well if it is normal to run a very youngmale prostitute ring from your home knowing this if he is normal to you then you have been infected with the antihuman mind control viral poison)

if you think the powerful elite ( Clinton's or DK of IMF  maid rape fame) are just fellow humans gone wrong -you have made your last mistake..

If you support central control type government you have been inoculated with viral mind control..and are on the road to no longer being a human,,the elite are just farther along that road. Evil is now in plane sight at Penn State, connect the dots if you still can.

"they live".

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 21:50 | 1868532 blunderdog
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"Species" is a term of convenience.  There's not really such a thing as "human"--it's all just lineages of chemistry if you break it down.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 21:18 | 1868463 Sathington Willougby
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Fuck you piece of shit Pederast State students.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 21:22 | 1868464 skyview
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Please see web site below to read about men in power that are only out to protect themselves,their money and the institution they represent.

It's prevalant all over the world and cannot be hidden anymore. There are so many victims who have lived in silence and self undeserved shame, remember them

and keep them in your thoughts.

For a preview of another Penn State see below:

whitetowerhealing.org

 

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 21:20 | 1868465 topcallingtroll
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This has been great!

This is just like the old junk wars when george washington would write something about A rabs or israel or the CIA.

I am stuck in a hotel in the middle of nowhere and this beats the hell out of wanking alone.

Night all. Give the troll a kiss.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 21:28 | 1868483 Dineroguru
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A right minded heartful comment.  Very simply this entire global mess is a moral mess.  BS greedy banksters, crooked politicians, lazy citizens...plenty to go around!

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 21:28 | 1868484 cleverlemming
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So, you're saying you're still bullish on Penn State but that we should hedge with mixed bag of precious metals?

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 21:39 | 1868504 SwingForce
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Ok, so you think a college footballer who sees his boss naked with a 10 year old in a shower , wouldn't intervene? And if he saw a pedophile in action, you don't think there would be ASST Coach Blood & Brains circling the drain? You are certainly not giving the alleged witnesses here enough credit. It is IMPOSSIBLE that every single person who "witnessed" this event repeat time & again, did nothing. They rip each other from limb to limb on the field, but you think they condone this behavior, please. What would YOU do? 

I know how it would be for me: The DA would be explaining it to me the day after, why I was dressed in an orange jumpsuit, and why my hands were covered with bandages and charged with murder. Where are the iPhones when you need them?

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 21:47 | 1868526 Fix It Again Timmy
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Our daily prayer - recite at least once daily:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acLW1vFO-2Q

 

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 21:52 | 1868536 Tater Salad
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I say hang the guys involved in any of these cases but to make such a bold statement as:

 "priest abuse scandal that has rocked the Catholic Church in the last five years. Pedophile priests have existed within the Catholic Church for decades"

Might just lead one to believe that pedophile's don't exist in the PROtestant church, Judiasm, Taoism, Budism, Muslim and just down right Rock-n-roll Jesus Churches that plague our steet corners like community banks...

Do your homework Quinn, don't hate the players, hate the game!

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 21:52 | 1868537 RonBurgundy
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This is a fail. The dude who wrote this shit is obviously someone who has a problem with the Catholic Church for his own desire to pork women other than his wife. So double fail for wanting to marry two women.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 21:56 | 1868547 mendolover
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Special place in hell...

This story (if possible) is even more disturbing.

http://franklinscandal.com/

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 21:57 | 1868549 mayhem_korner
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They are taught to obey, because a priest is the same as Jesus Christ. These beliefs allowed pedophile priests to prey on thousands of little boys around the world for decades with little or no backlash.

 

The former (claiming equivalence with Christ) is the worst offense of those Catholics that carry it our; even more severe than the pedophilia.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 22:00 | 1868557 AssFire
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The more I learn about this, the madder I get.  Instead of self examination and remorse; the university wants to play Nebraska this Saturday as though nothing has changed. FUCK THEM.

I will never watch another college or pro game again. I am disgusted with our society.

There was a time when a leader would come out and kill the whole athletic program, expel any protestors and restate the mission of education as the purpose of the university.

Too often these days I consider destroying my own life by making a huge example of a piece of shit like Sandusky...there are many many people who should be executed in public for the sake of society.

 

Fri, 11/11/2011 - 11:18 | 1869739 twotraps
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I know its day old news and thread but I had to come back and read some more.....Totally agree about more information making it worse!  Mark May had a nice, controlled little rant where he mentioned twice what a shame it was that there was not swift physical intervention upon seeing a 10 yr old in the shower with that fucking monster.  Penn St will now  look worse than ever as their lawyers try to negotiate down their settlements, fucking pathetic.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 22:04 | 1868561 SwingForce
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Jim, you write good stuff, but this is nuts- surely not even a psychopathic bankster would ever venture into the realm of sexual child abuse- that's a huge line to cross, and I think its wrong to compare a pedophile to ANY financial criminal. Your post probably got the highest response ever, welcome to Tabloid Journalism, now its baptism by fire. You are WAY OFF BASE here, as pissed off as you certainly are (and I am too, believe me) this is not the correct analogy or forum to present your "opinions" and I hope you have a good lawyer. The problem with this whole story is with the so-called "witnesses". No doubt there are pedophiles, and no doubt there are innocent victims afraid to speak up at the time, because of their young age. But to think for more than 1 second, that another man saw this "act" and was able to continue walking in the direction he was headed, without his blood boiling, without his brain calling out to his eyes to please resend last image, does not compoot. How many witnesses said nothing? It doesn't matter if you're gay or not. If you're Human or if you're a father, you'd see red and turn madder than a bull in a nano-second. 

I'm not defending Sandusky. I'm with Arne Duncan (who seems to be the only person who has compassion for the alleged victims- everyone else thinks College Football is the victim) we need a full investigation, and in the meantime the men in charge have to go ( perhaps 9 years too late, but what the hey).

I'm defending BIGTIME here the people you say who saw these atrocious actS and have not been charged with murder. Come on, give them more credit, whoever they are.

The Witnesses: They don't exist. Its a Human Impossibility.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 22:06 | 1868568 Coldfire
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Pedo State.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 22:06 | 1868569 Coldfire
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Pedo State.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 22:13 | 1868570 PulauHantu29
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Protecting athletes over children....what has become of our culture?

 

 

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 22:09 | 1868575 Nassim
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On a smaller scale, this sort of thing has been going on in Melbourne's elite Jewish community for a long time. The amazing thing about it is how the parents of the abused boys have been helping in the coverup of this wicked bahaviour.

Here are sample articles:

http://www.theage.com.au/national/education/schools-sex-abuse-secret-pro...

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/jewish-community-leader-tells-of-sex-a...

http://m.theage.com.au/victoria/synagogue-asks-alleged-child-molester-to...

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/police-investigate-former-principal-ov...

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/fresh-yeshivah-sex-charge-20111018-1ly...

It just goes to show that the Catholics are not the only ones with no morals.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 22:31 | 1868608 Jump The Shark
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So when ever someone comes to you with a claim about child rape that you did not witness you are suppose to go to the cops? That doesn't seem right. Maybe the witness should have gone to the cops. Why are we suppose to go to the cops over everything that someone TELLS us. That in it self could ruin alot of careers. Not a fan of Joe but he doesn't run the college and he has superiors who get paid alot of money to handle these things. I understand the horror of this but I also think that you can't go to the cops unless you witness a crime.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 22:40 | 1868625 SwingForce
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Maybe the witness should have gone to the cops.

MAYBE? If you walked by the shower stall, what would YOU have done? I guarantee whatever was happening would never happen again. And I don't even know you. Thinks about it, there's a flaw in this ointment.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 22:55 | 1868672 Jump The Shark
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My point is that maybe Paterno should have never been involved in the first place. Everyone is to shocked about the rape. You're right, I would have stopped the assault and then if he was alive call the police, but how was Paterno going to explain what happened? By word of mouth. Explain to me how that would solve everything. If you WITNESS a crime it is YOUR responsibility to fix it or do nothing. Paterno was thrown under so Penn State would seem responsible.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 23:04 | 1868706 High Plains Drifter
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well he admitted himself that he has known this has been going on since 2002 and did nothing to stop it. i am not sure why he did this.?  but his gravitas in my eyes  has taken a big hit. i mean this man was the old man of college football. heck that guy was around when i was a sprout........this action has caused irreparable harm. this thing is just staring. the legal actions have not even been talked about yet. but they are coming.......

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 23:24 | 1868773 Jump The Shark
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If he had knowledge of this since 2002 and did nothing then by all means he should be prosecuted. That is sick. All I have heard is that he was told of the rape and then told his superiors about it. If you just go by what people say and go to the police and the information is not true there could be a libel suit. That is not his responsibility, that is for the superiors. Who ever witnessed this need to stop this or go to the police.

Fri, 11/11/2011 - 17:47 | 1871017 Village Smithy
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People who think like that are why this country is in trouble. It's really straight forward.  When King Joe was informed that a crime took place in his locker room he became involved. Did the King commit the crime, no. The only reason he did not make sure that the police were informed is because he felt that the scandal would hurt his precious football team. Here is the easy part. It is immoral to protect one's own position by failing to assist in the delivery of justice. Joe Paterno made the decision to protect his football team from scandal and to allow a monster to continue to ruin young boys' lives. When Joe weighed his options that fateful Saturday who was more important? Obviously Joe. He was willing to risk all those childrens' lives for what? I am not even sure that he knows but I bet it doesn't seem like much of a trade off today. I wonder how many times in that very locker room Joe Paterno preached about honor, sacrifice, courage and bravery. Too bad Joe, when the chips were down and the game was real, you showed none of the best that humans can offer each other.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 22:35 | 1868613 SwingForce
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Tyler, in the immortal words of Larry Silverstein in the late afternoon of 9/11:

 

PULL IT!!!   (This post).

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 22:34 | 1868614 fonzanoon
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Forget morals, forget religion, forget the law. These poor kids that are the victims have parents. As a parent I think you simplify things. You take a baseball bat. You take your time to find Sandusky in the correct spot. You beat him with a baseball bat. You don't beat him to death. You beat him within an ounce of death. With any luck he spends the next 30 years in a wheelchair unable to speak but able to live and comprehend his actions. No Lawyers necessary. No need to let society argue what could or should have been done.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 23:02 | 1868701 SheHunter
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Hi five Fonzanoon.  I agree.  And there are still pockets in the US where this kind of justice is allowed- as it should be.  Local punishment is a great deterrent to crime.  North of where I live in isolated country overlapping 2 western states lives an old rancher native to that part of the country.  Three years ago he took care of a man who raped his daughter.  The rapis'ts body is resting in a remote location on public lands.  Sheriff and locals knew this rancher took care of the man who harmed his daughter.  No one interferred; we all knew the rapist was dead and none of us felt any need to take this matter any further.  I doubt anyone else will attack this girl/woman.  No cost to the taxpayer and justice was served.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 23:19 | 1868753 SheHunter
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I've got to tell you guys one more story.  In this same country there is another old timer, Cliff, whose great love is walking the remote country and looking for/collecting indian artifacts.  Cliff has a beautiful collection of everything from tiny intricate arrowheads to 10 inch long perfectly preserved spearheads.  Problem is...his mind is a little loco and he forgets how illegal government has made it to remove artifacts from public lands. Well, Cliff bragged about his collection to the wrong person- a new highway patrolman who is not from our neck of the woods.  Cliff was arrested.  Put into the county jail with the local drunks.  On the day of his trial 82 year old ranch woman Gretta- who has been at odds with and has not spoken to Cliff for years- Gretta showed up at the trial.  She walked up to the judge and swore under oath with her hand on a bible that Cliff had picked every single artifact from her private ranch land.  The judge has known her and Cliff for years and knows they do not speak.  I will never forget the relief on the judge's face when he said "Gretta, are you sure Cliff picked all of these up on your ranch"?  "Yes" Gretta said.  "Well, there's nothing illegal about that.  This case is dropped" said the judge.  Gretta then turned and walked out of the courtroom without speaking to Cliff.  No one expected her to speak to Cliff.  They had not spoken for years.

Fri, 11/11/2011 - 02:14 | 1869124 Cathartes Aura
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thanks for sharing these stories SheHunter, it's a part of the "myth" of americana that I was raised to believe, yet never found any evidence to support. . . I want to believe there are people who understand what "maintaining community" means, protecting those around you from systemic abuse, be it "legal" or otherwise - quite the opposite of these sociopath "rings" that undermine humanity.

and fonzanoon, I have to admit that years ago I might have not agreed with your post, but today, I have respect for your stance.

Fri, 11/11/2011 - 03:02 | 1869171 Joy on Maui
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Please consider that these children were underprivileged, likely being raised by a single mom, and  selected for that very reason.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 22:45 | 1868632 SwingForce
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Quinn's over the edge, deny his +/- , banksterz stick their dicks up the ass of society, and as much as I hate them, I would never equate or accuse them of child sodomy, unconfirmed, and allegedly condoned by witnesses. Wrong.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 22:44 | 1868634 High Plains Drifter
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http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/10/nyregion/10indulgence.html?_r=2

 

catholic church has reinstated the practice of selling indulgences.............oh my..........this is thing that was one of the major reasons that the reformation started............in the middle ages........

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 22:47 | 1868642 John Rotten
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I can appreciate your disgust.  This is downright appalling.  Tell me though, Jim, why are you not also writing about these two incidents that have taken place in your "neck of the woods"?  They both feature heinous acts by doctors, people society tells us we should trust.  Tell me these medical "professionals" aren't part of some secret society?  Heck, in the second incident, his collegues knew what was going on and told NO ONE!  Where are the charges there?  Penn State has a lot to investigate and atone for, but why does it seem that these major incidents involving the medical "professionals" get overlooked on a naitonal level?  Why did these not make headlines?  Why did you not write about them?

 

Doctor Allegedly Killed Babies With Scissors

http://www.myfoxphilly.com/dpp/news/local_news/abortion-dr.-kermit-gosne...

 

Delaware pediatrician charged with multiple child rapes

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.d8327bcacf2bdc6dee734e608fb1...

 

 

 

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 22:48 | 1868645 SheHunter
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Sobering that, with the exception of one mom, the parents of these kids did not loudly demand justice.  Sobering they kept quiet; more sobering if the parents were quiet because their boys did not feel OK going to their parents with the truth.  Very good article.  Written from the heart.  Which is good.

SheHunter

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 22:50 | 1868652 SwingForce
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I swear I'll quit reading Zero Hedge if you give more credence to Jim's allegations over Christine laGarde's latest statements. (/sarc) JQ is racking up FOXNEWS points, maybe he's the new Rick Sanchez from WSVN.

Tyler, shut this shit down, throw a link to Arne Duncan (Ray Dalio mentioned him last week).

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 22:54 | 1868660 SwingForce
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POLL: Crush the motherfucker's skull in the shower?

Walk on by, VOTE PLEASE.

 

I'll play your stupid game, and donate all my points to sterilize Quinn's.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 23:00 | 1868691 High Plains Drifter
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well it could happen in prison. there is a code in the joint. they do not like child molestors........

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 23:02 | 1868698 SwingForce
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"THEY"? How about you, buddy? No Vote yet.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 23:44 | 1868833 blunderdog
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Hey man, the media works on the attention...  You don't get to shut Quinnbo down, but if you pay or something, you can probably get your own shit up there.

(I'm sorry I have to abstain on the vote 'cause I'm not sure whose head it is.)

Fri, 11/11/2011 - 00:32 | 1868956 SwingForce
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Please put you thinking cap on, this is important and you are influential.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 23:04 | 1868708 Todd Horlbeck
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I have to..

 

Do you have a broker? Here is the 99%

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycUsbn7GJ6M&feature=feedu

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 23:38 | 1868822 preppin.for.the...
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Pfft.  Study your history.  Human nature has never changed.  Just the technology. 

Fri, 11/11/2011 - 00:16 | 1868893 G-R-U-N-T
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Indeed, and this technology seems fitting for the Sadusky turkey especially with Thanksgiving right around the corner: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-3dg65PaMw&feature=related

gobble...gobble...gobble bitches!

Fri, 11/11/2011 - 00:32 | 1868958 SwingForce
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People suck.

Fri, 11/11/2011 - 00:34 | 1868961 oldman
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A well written and provocative piece; thank you.

The answer from what I have read in the posts here is that:

No, there is no shame.

It appears that we ZH'rs would not deem this 'of interest', so we will continue on our merry way---eating any piece of shit thrown to us by TPTB.

We deserve the lives we have                          om

I am most distressed by this reality

Doesn't anyone care about anything

fuck all of you

 

Fri, 11/11/2011 - 01:00 | 1869014 Melville1977
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First Jim Tressel's fall from grace and now Penn State Univ. The colleges are as crooked as the federal govt. I suspect it is going to get worse for PSU and quite possibly financially cripple the university if the "pimping the boys to the donors" story is true.

Fri, 11/11/2011 - 02:21 | 1869128 Cathartes Aura
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I suspect it is going to get worse for PSU and quite possibly financially cripple the university

one would certainly HOPE so. . .

Fri, 11/11/2011 - 01:28 | 1869058 geekgrrl
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This article reminds me of comments made by Tom Ridge when he described GW Bush pressuring him to raise the terror alert level before the '04 elections when Ridge was the Secretary of Homeland Security. What struck me was Ridge's comparison of politics under Bush to team sports like football. He said Bush and others were pressuring him to be part of the team, and be a team player, so it seems Jim Quinn is on to something by drawing a parallel between organized sports and deviant/psychopathic behavior in many other institutions controlled almost exclusively by men: religion, banks and finance, military, boards of directors of major corporations, etc.

Institutions don't have any natural right to existence, but certainly the members who derive benefit from the institutions will often go to great lengths to ensure its continuation. At this point in the age of bureaucracy, most institutions are behaving suicidally in that the feedback mechanisms that would return them to health have been severed and they are now running open-loop and are effectively uncontrolled.

I think it would be difficult for such a team-oriented person who has invested so much of his life and identity into the institution of "Penn State," to do what almost nobody has the guts to do anymore: be a whistleblower. There is nothing that those in power, the elites of this world, hate more than a whistleblower. Just look at Bradley Manning. Look at Wikileaks. Look at the real risks people who come forward with the truth face. Think of that movie with Jack Nicholson, where he tells Tom Cruise that 'he can't handle the truth.' So I can see why Paterno might not want it widely known that 10 year old boys were being regularly raped in his locker room. It doesn't excuse him, of course. I think he will die as a humiliated and shamed man, and rightly so. He will undoubtedly continue to have his die-hard supporters, but he will never be able to escape his shame in enabling multiple child rapes over a long period of time. It is right up-there with the Catholic Church pedophile scandal, especially if these reports of child prostitution rings are true.

Fri, 11/11/2011 - 01:32 | 1869069 beatus12
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Bravo Zerohedge and JQ.

Some very brave  individuals or groups are floating

the idea of attempting to have the Pope himself face

the courts. Most don't think the case can get

very far but lets hope. Somehow this must stop.

I'm so sorry for the children victims. I recently watched

an investigative documentary about the terrible

problem the Scouts organization have and the criminal

cover-up and files. It was called "Scouts Honor", CBC.

Please be most careful with your young children.

 

 

 

Fri, 11/11/2011 - 02:07 | 1869116 dolph9
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Joe Paterno is a FUCKING COLLEGE FOOTBALL COACH.  He tells affirmative action niggers how to run around a field.  He's nobody, and our society treats him like a God.  Pathetic.

Fri, 11/11/2011 - 02:21 | 1869125 DavidPierre
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You want to know how deep the child sex swapping underworld goes, where prestigious and wealthy middle-aged gray hair men in suits, and our “officials” and “public servants” rape young kids? To learn just about the tip of the iceberg, you can:

Look up The Franklin Coverup documentary on youtube.

Look up the Dutroux Affair in Europe

Look up Midnight Callboys at the White House of Reagan/Bush Sr.

Look up “Animal House in Afghanistan” on the MotherJones website

Look up American Diplomats in Pedophile Scandal by Lawrence Blackstone

Look up “The Dancing Boys of Afganistan” on the Guardian website, or google the Rape of Afgan boys

Look up Barney Frank’s live-in male prostitute.

Google video or youtube: Actor Corey Feldman Says Pedophilia No. 1 Problem for Child Stars, Contributed to Demise of Corey Haim

Look up the Isle of Wight pedophile ring, or Scotland pedophile ring.

Look up Covenant House in New York and their old pedophile scandal.

Look up George Green Ted Kennedy ; Green tells a story of how Kennedy told him he wanted to sleep with Green’s young daughter. Gree: “So, I sat down with Ted Kennedy, and Ted was right next to me. And he said, “George, you’re going to love this job. We’re going to send you out to all the state Democratic functions. You’re really good with money, and you raise money for the National Democratic Party.” And he said, “Then you’re going to meet some real foxy ladies.”

Well, they all think that way, frankly. It isn’t just Ted, they all do. So I… and just coincidentally, my daughter walks in. Now, my daughter is a very attractive young lady.

Ted goes, “Wow, I have to go to bed with that.”

And I said, “No, Ted. That’s my daughter and she’s fourteen.”
His response back to me: “I don’t care.”

Look up Jerry Epstein, billionaire pedophile and his relationship with Bill Clinton (recently covered in a British newspaper with interviews with his young girls, maybe it was the Guardian paper?)

Watch the videos of Kay Griggs on youtube where she talks about her NATO and Marine officer husband and their homosexual guilds within the upper echelons of the military and how they groom young boys.

Google Rabbi pedophiles. You already know about the Catholics hiding their actions.

Watch the documentary on Liberia Africa on vbs.tv, and hear the local poverty stricken city dwellers mention how the UN officials or soldiers have sex with little boys.

The movie SuckerPunch is art imitating reality.

Then consider that the FBI and InterPol, like their false flags, are the ones promoting child pornography on the net in order to encourage it, then rope in the people who get into it, and likely blackmail those whom they can use for nefarious means. We occasionally hear about giant multinational child porn stings where 50 people are arrested; consider than during these year long stings it’s the FBI posting and disseminating images and videos of the child porn, and tracking it some of it. Likely the very law enforcement officers working on these cases use their positions to be in possession of the child porn. They are the ones promoting it, yet claim to be trying to stop it.

I could go on and on. Begin to connect the dots. The whole subject is a giant open secret that is pervasive everywhere, yet rarely covered in the media.

Now why don’t you copy and paste this information into the thousands of comments sections under thousands of articles talking about these sociopathic coaches and their inane football GAMES, where yuppy fraternity swells are getting all bent out of shape over “their” coach and taking the whole situation as a personal affront.

It reminds me of 9-11 and everyone wanting to fight the terr’ists – in this case the terrorists are those who stand up for the kids.

Fri, 11/11/2011 - 02:29 | 1869140 Cathartes Aura
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your posts rarely disappoint DavidPierre, and this one is thorough, and spot on - I hope many take you up on the offer to cut 'n' paste & disseminate, folk could use the wake up call.

Fri, 11/11/2011 - 04:42 | 1869224 merchantratereview
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They have no shame. That's why the kids chanting shame seem so pathetic.

 

Pitchfork anyone?

Fri, 11/11/2011 - 04:50 | 1869229 DTOM
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Dead on.  The cowards that allow this to happen to the helpless are the lowest form of humanity.  To bad that there was not even one man there (of all that were aware of this) of principle and courage at Penn State to blow the whistle on this dirtbag.  WTF.

Fri, 11/11/2011 - 09:29 | 1869446 JungleJim
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Tyler,

           Kudos, in the end, it's always about values ....

Fri, 11/11/2011 - 13:41 | 1870315 Chuck Walla
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Are these young people incapable of critical thinking and are just driven by emotion and mindless rage? 

 

Someone just woke up!  How the hell does he think a know-nothing like obama gets elected without these kinds running free?

Fri, 11/11/2011 - 13:41 | 1870316 Chuck Walla
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Are these young people incapable of critical thinking and are just driven by emotion and mindless rage? 

 

Someone just woke up!  How the hell does he think a know-nothing like obama gets elected without these kinds running free?

Fri, 11/11/2011 - 15:24 | 1870633 blunderdog
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Don't be stupid.  Obama got elected 'cause he was one of two choices, both of which totally sucked.

That's the same way they all get elected.

Sun, 11/13/2011 - 13:46 | 1873776 inca
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Penn State, Happy Valley, & the Good Citizens of Omelas

by Michelle Richmond

In a basement under one of the beautiful buildings of Omelas, or perhaps in the cellar of one of its spacious private homes, there is a room.It has one locked door, and no window…In the room a child is sitting…

These words are form Ursula LeGuin’s chilling short story, “The Ones Who Walk Away from Omelas.” You may remember the story, which is often taught in high school English classes: a moral lesson about what, or rather whom, a society is willing to sacrifice in order to maintain its own happiness, its own illusion of utopia. Omelas is a beautiful city, given to festivals and music and great displays of community fellow feeling. Omelas, like Happy Valley, loves a good parade. Everyone in Omelas is happy, save for one: the child alone in the locked basement room, the child who closes its eyes because it fears the dirty mops in the corner, which appear terrifying in the dark. The child is always referred to as it, rather than as he or she; the child’s suffering is easier for the good citizens of Omelas to endure if the child is objectified–an it rather than a little girl or little boy.

Sometimes the door rattles terribly and opens, and a person, or several people, are there. One of them may kick the child to make it stand up. The others never come close, but peer in at it with frightened, disgusted eyes

The people of Omelas are all implicated in the child’s fate, because “they all know it is there.” But they have a great stake in looking away from the child’s suffering:

They all understand that their happiness, the beauty of their city, the tenderness of their friendships, the health of their children, the wisdom of their scholars, the skill of their makers, even the abundance of their harvest and the kindly weather of their skies, depend wholly on the child’s abominable misery.

Much depended upon the silence of the men who knew about Jerry Sandusky’s alleged abuse of children. For Penn State, if Sandusky’s crimes were made known, there was a great deal to lose.

“I should have done more, ” Paterno said to the fans who cheered him on after the trustees let him go. I have no doubt that Paterno is heartbroken about the turn of events, or that Dottie Sandusky is even more heartbroken; but heartbreak does not absolve them. I have no doubt that Mike McQueary, now a father himself, desperately wishes he had acted differently, decisively, in the terrible moment when he witnessed the rape of a child. Mike McQueary, “distraught,” left the building and called his father, who called Paterno, who consulted Schultz and Curley, who kicked it on up the line to Spanier. Not one of those powerful men went into the basement to save the child. The welfare of many was at stake. One can imagine all sorts of rationalizations going through the minds of those who knew, those who could have gone against the wishes of the whole and spoken out for the one. Perhaps they felt that Penn State does so much good for so many. It is very likely they thought of the tens of millions of dollars the football program brings in each year. Perhaps they felt that the program they had worked so hard to build did not deserve this kind of scrutiny.

more here

Mon, 11/14/2011 - 19:45 | 1877426 blindman
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still, no shame emerging. these people don't do shame.
not part of their program. it is a common error of thought
to assume that your personal psychological make up and
dynamics applies universally to all other individuals
and groups, apparently this is not the case.
no shame persists and exploits that advantage.

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