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Guest Post: The Trouble with Rand Paul

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Submitted by John Aziz of Azizonomics,

Rand Paul just endorsed a man who is deeply hostile to human liberty.

Perhaps that’s Rand’s idea of playing politics? Come to the table, strike a deal, get what you can. Trouble is, it’s tough striking a good deal when the guy on the other side of the table believes that the government should be allowed to claim — without having to produce any evidence whatsoever — that certain people are terrorists, and therefore should be detained indefinitely without any kind of due process.

That’s textbook tyranny.

Yes, I would have [signed the NDAA]. And I do believe that it is appropriate to have in our nation the capacity to detain people who are threats to this country, who are members of al Qaeda. Look, you have every right in this country to protest and to express your views on a wide range of issues but you don’t have a right to join a group that has killed Americans, and has declared war against America. That’s treason. In this country we have a right to take those people and put them in jail. If I were president I would not abuse this power. But people who join al Qaeda are not entitled to rights of due process under our normal legal code. They are entitled instead to be treated as enemy combatants.


Mitt Romney

Except, if the government had any evidence they were really members of al-Qaeda and engaged in a war against America they could be charged with offenses under current laws and tried in front of a jury of their peers. As was proven when Judge Katherine Forrest struck down the indefinite detention provision of the NDAA as unconstitutional, the real detention targets are people like the ones who brought the case — writers, investigative journalist and whistleblowers: people like Chris Hedges, Noam Chomsky, Daniel Ellsberg, Jennifer Bolen, and Birgitta Jonsdottir.

Rand Paul might have done some good work trying to filibuster the Patriot Act, but endorsing Mitt Romney goes beyond the pale. The NDAA is Romney’s most egregious transgression against liberty, but not far behind are his desire to start a war against Iran, to increase military spending, to start a trade war with China and his belief that corporations are people.

I know I will never agree with any politician on every single dimension of every single issue, and that to some extent politics will always involve compromise. Certainly, I disagree with Ron Paul on some issues. But Mitt Romney’s stances on these issues seem much, much, much closer to Barack Obama than they do to Ron Paul. In fact, he might as well have endorsed Obama for President.

And the Ron Paul supporters are noticing: Rand has probably burnt most bridges to his Father’s supporters now. His Facebook page has seen a huge outpouring of fury:

Just lost a lot of faith in a man I otherwise adored.

You suck Rand! Traitor!

That’s why this country is doomed! Even the person you trust is a sell-out. I’m done with politics, people deserve what they get. Let the country run itself to the ground, and still people will not understand what freedom and self-responsibility is about. People want big gov’t, big brother every step of the way. Well, they got it. The rest of us, might as well try to move to another country or find an island and move there.

I knew I’d never vote for Mitt… Now I know I’ll never vote for Rand.

He has fully sold out to the bankers

Endorsing Romney is tantamount to an utter sell-out of conservative principles.

Did George Washington, Thomas Jefferson and James Madison try to compromise with King George? Or — when it became obvious that they were facing tyranny — did they stand up for the principles of liberty?

I have always been uncomfortable with the children of politicians becoming politicians. Every anointed child feels like a step away from meritocracy. Dynasties are dangerous, because the dynasty itself comes to be more important than the qualities of the politicians. Who would Rand Paul be if he wasn’t Ron Paul’s son? Just another neocon. Neocons often have a few “unfashionable” libertarian or constitutionalist sympathies; look at Charles Krauthammer. But — unlike Ron Paul — the neocon never has the spine to do much about their libertarian or constitutionalist sympathies. They just ride on the establishment steamroller, into foreign occupations, empire building, corporate welfare, and banking bailouts. Into Iraq, and soon into Iran.

Rand Paul just got on the steamroller.


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Sat, 06/09/2012 - 10:36 | 2510067 Cycle
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Sat, 06/09/2012 - 10:35 | 2510072 Cycle
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Rand Paul is an educated fool.

Sat, 06/09/2012 - 10:36 | 2510079 prodigious_idea
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DNA disconnect?

Sat, 06/09/2012 - 10:36 | 2510080 Monk
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Capitalism will always be neutral towards human liberty. Given that, this news comes as no surprise.


Sat, 06/09/2012 - 10:56 | 2510109 benb
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I'm going to reserve judgement on what appears on the surface as a sell out until more information comes in.

Sat, 06/09/2012 - 10:56 | 2510121 Pygar
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This sort of thing doesn't bother me nearly as much since I completely gave up on politics as anything other than a grotesque spectator sport.

Sat, 06/09/2012 - 12:01 | 2510218 boiltherich
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Hilarious, arguing about who you think would make a better captain of the Titanic AFTER it hit the iceberg. I have never NOT voted, but at least I do not delude myself into thinking it matters anymore for whom, or even if, I vote. Even Ron Paul himself could not stop the sinking, just perhaps drag it out a little longer. If it is a lifeboat you want when this bitch finally goes under the waves you better vote democrat because republicans think the resources of the shareholders of the owners should not be squandered on such extravagances just to keep a few useless eaters alive. Democrats would just love setting up feeding stations where they can disseminate the left religion, and that will suck, but the right will tell you to get lost when your kids are losing weight and getting rickets.


Sat, 06/09/2012 - 12:08 | 2510228 LoneCapitalist
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This is the problem with the two party system. You end up endorsing a candidate who you agree with on maybe 20% of the issues, because you dont agree with the other candidate at all.

Sat, 06/09/2012 - 12:13 | 2510239 LoneCapitalist
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Its not so much that Rand was endorsing Romney so much as he was endorsing the non-obama candidate.

Sat, 06/09/2012 - 12:19 | 2510247 SangriaSoup
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Ben Franklin's son sided with the British who had appointed him governor of New Jersey - father/son split of ideology.  History doesn't repeat itself, but it surely rhymes. 

Sat, 06/09/2012 - 13:31 | 2510398 W10321303
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If you must believe in fairy tales, then perhaps you will be less dissapointed if you start praying to the Easter Bunny....

Can we say WELFARE is for the RICH, boys and girls?

Sat, 06/09/2012 - 17:00 | 2510944 dolly madison
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It's hard for people to learn that there is no one man that can fix things.  I think this is bullish for Libertarians joining the Occupy moement.

Sat, 06/09/2012 - 18:09 | 2511035 psychobilly
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Justin Raimondo called it months ago:

Can Ron Paul Be Tamed?

This Trygve Olson who has wormed his way into the Paul machine via Rand Paul and this Jesse Benton incompetent is a neocon shitbag who specializes in subversion. 

Also see:

Penny Freeman, former staffer in tears over Ron Paul betrayals

It was obvious from the beginning that Rand Paul is not his father.  The establishment found the weak link.

I say all this as an observer.  Given that the abstraction known as the US federal government is not a legitimate authority, I don't have a dog in this race. 

On with the freak show.

Sat, 06/09/2012 - 20:41 | 2511289 goldfish1
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Right on. And a reply to this commenter:

"Just lost a lot of faith in a man I otherwise adored."

Obviously you haven't been paying attention. Adored? On what basis?

Sat, 06/09/2012 - 21:56 | 2511402 Jumbotron
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Sorry.....just had to chuckle at yet another sacred cow getting slaughtered and another politician put on a pedestal brought low by his own shit.

As I have told all you libertarians for years on this site.....(and I hold libertarian and even anarchist points of view).....there is NOT nor will there EVER be a savior in the form of a man....particualarly a politician.....even a libertarian one.

Freedom is an aberrent circumstance.  We had a good run.  But human corruption will always win in the end.

It always will revert to serfdom.

Sat, 06/09/2012 - 22:27 | 2511439 Redhotfill
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I just want whatever Rand was smoking or snorting must be some hellaciously good shit to make you forget everything in the world you stood for.  Unless this is the see go on all you 80%+ idiots who didnt support RP here ya go lets all do it your way and support Obomney!  Obamney will fix everything, cuz he has an R next to his name on the balot its all about the party isnt it?

Sun, 06/10/2012 - 12:59 | 2512256 Lost Wages
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Must be the same thing Obama snorted to make lots of great promises and keep none of them.

Sun, 06/10/2012 - 12:58 | 2512251 Lost Wages
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The only thing we can do at this point is get rid of the top people and start over.

Sun, 06/10/2012 - 19:43 | 2512996 Likstane
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When asked about a possible V.P. run yesterday, Sen (rand) Paul told CNN, "it would be a great honor to be considered"

Time for the old man to pull the plug on his boy and the GOP and get it on without them.  We will see what the old man really believes.  Is he gonna live and die like a man or cave like his boy, the pussy coward?

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