Guest Post: U.S. Government Confirms Link Between Earthquakes and Hydraulic Fracturing

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Wed, 11/09/2011 - 19:14 | 1863568 westboundnup
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Wed, 11/09/2011 - 19:15 | 1863569 Hard1
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Injection time bitchez!!!

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 19:17 | 1863580 Ahmeexnal
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Wed, 11/09/2011 - 19:25 | 1863608 trav7777
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if fracking is causing earthquakes, the gas industry is dead and you can scratch one more solution off the technocornucopia list for peak oil deniers

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 19:29 | 1863625 blu
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r u serious? Next week they'll pass legislation at the Federal level protecting oil and gas companies against any claims that might arise from quake damage.

Nothing will stand in the way of this. No. Thing. Evar.

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 19:53 | 1863705 PAPA ROACH
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Kind of like how they shielded companies from any litigation due to MTBE contaminating the water just a few years back...

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 20:01 | 1863726 knukles
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The sun is the main reason for global warming/climate change.
Come on you fuckers, admit it.
You just want that carbon tax shit to expand your government footprint.


Wed, 11/09/2011 - 20:06 | 1863753 Ahmeexnal
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Earthquake in Turkey near iRanian border flattens turkish city.

Seems like iRan's underground nuclear tests also cause quakers.

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 20:19 | 1863804 Manthong
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Aw, c'mon...

A little shaking is good for you.. and can be fun.


Thu, 11/10/2011 - 07:33 | 1865131 onthesquare
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The great engine at Gisa, interesting book states that the pyrimid was covered with quartz and that sizemic activity would turn it into a great peizo electic generator.  It would also calm the earth of big earthquakes.

Watch for the oil companys to run with this.  That their fracking is making more little earthquakes and reducing the possibility of big ones.  3 cheers.

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 20:56 | 1863939 Uncle Remus
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Wait - Quakers are Muslim?

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 21:26 | 1864048 knukles
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Praise Allah

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 21:59 | 1864173 nmewn
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the great and most merciful.

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 23:27 | 1864457 JW n FL
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Uncle Remus

Wait - Quakers are Muslim?

Quakers are Crackers!

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 20:13 | 1863776 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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You mean that big super nuclear thing that heats the earth from many many miles away?  No...........

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 20:21 | 1863813 gangland
gangland's picture the gubermint confirms the link between printing money and inflation....after the half life of depleted uranium.

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 20:42 | 1863894 rosex229
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the sun is the source for 99.9999999% of the thermal energy contained in the biosphere ( no one would doubt that). climate change relates to the amount of the suns solar radiation that is captured by our atmosphere relative to historic levels.

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 21:17 | 1864024 Vagabond
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You miss the point Carlton, he's talking about solar actiivity such as solar flares.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 08:47 | 1865285 Bendromeda Strain
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Huh - I thought he was talking about the fact that the Little Ice Age ended without a single internal combustion engine being turned over.

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 22:45 | 1864287 Buck Johnson
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No kidding, our country and our leaders are made men and women. 

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 21:35 | 1864092 prains
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Fracking is about to go Off Balance Sheet

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 19:33 | 1863644 ihedgemyhedges
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I can assure you of one thing Trav, I've been married nearly 18 years and there ain't much fracking going on at my house so you can't blame me if the industry dies.......................although early on in our dating life, we may have made the earth tremble once or twice........but of course, that was during the dating years........................

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 19:48 | 1863690 SoCalBusted
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Maybe you can get in through some sort of back door deal

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 21:31 | 1864074 Banksters
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Clean yur snatch.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 19:09 | 1868122 mkkby
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Sounds like you need some off balance sheet fracking.

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 20:01 | 1863728 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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if fracking is causing earthquakes, the gas industry is dead and you can scratch one more solution off the technocornucopia list for peak oil deniers


Wed, 11/09/2011 - 20:01 | 1863729 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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if fracking is causing earthquakes, the gas industry is dead and you can scratch one more solution off the technocornucopia list for peak oil deniers


Wed, 11/09/2011 - 20:29 | 1863843 rosex229
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I've been aware of peak oil and perhaps more importantly it's imminent and a rather severe consequences for industrial civilization since 2007. what made me more pessimistic than anything off late ( and there's plenty to be pessimistic about) was the strong opinion that formed against nuclear after fukushima this spring.

the nails were already solidly in the coffin for industrial civilization, but that event poured 6 feet of dirt over the coffin.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 02:06 | 1864797 Freddie
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There are tons of things that can be done including geothermal and safer nuke plants.  If they would stop pushing that old steam shit from GE and Westinghouse crap then you would have safe reactors. Pebble bed, thorium or the Argonne design are just a few options.

Offshore drilling, oil shale, coal diesel, nat gas that is plentiful around the world.  What will kill the world is morons with their hand out and policticians.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 03:56 | 1864908 Seer
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"There are tons of things that can be done"

And just because something CAN be done that does not mean that it SHOULD be done.

But, as is typical of the cornucopian mindset, the glaring error is that they fail to consider- growth.  That is, scalability is always  ignored.  Same technique is used by drug-pushers to lock an addict in; once they're hooked then the stupid-flag flies and the totally unsustainable becomes the sought after.  It's great for the drug-pushers (who have the money to promote the "wonders" of their stuff).

What will "kill the world" (as though the world could be "killed") is two-dimensional thinking.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 02:35 | 1864788 Freddie
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Obama is a muslim stooge for the Saudis. No was breaking sand rock formations using high powered hoses shooting out fluid or nitrogen is going to cause earthquakes.   More Hussein Admin BS.  Anything to help the islamic oil countries.

One of the Canadian fracking companies has a video where they used nitrogen for injection.  Pretty amazing technology. Very cool when it comes back out of the ground.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 03:59 | 1864911 Seer
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"Obama is a muslim stooge for the Saudis. No was breaking sand rock formations using high powered hoses shooting out fluid or nitrogen is going to cause earthquakes. "

OK, your OPINION is duly noted (as having no measurable value).  Now go pound for the GOP (corporations, or whatever party that you pledge your soul to).

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 13:01 | 1866459 Gold Man-Sacks
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Jesus, this moron has a one-tract mind.  I can't believe that many ZH readers, who I presume to to be intelligent, actually agree with this tard.  Yeah, the nat gas industry is dead.  Serioulsy?  Tell that to Boone Pickens.  Moron.

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 19:28 | 1863622 sqz
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I have to admit I'm a bit puzzled.

Can I ask Americans why it takes your Army and national Geological Survey to do the job of your Environmental Protection Agency?

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 19:33 | 1863645 blu
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EPA has no jurisdiction in the matter. It is strictly an engineering question, perhaps a safety issue.

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 20:02 | 1863732 surf0766
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They are too busy closing businesses?

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 00:08 | 1864570 donsluck
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Only the ones who poison, POISON, your air, water or food.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 08:51 | 1865301 Bendromeda Strain
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They seem to have an erection for carbon dioxide these days. Stop breathing fool. Oh wait, that's not fair. You may breathe - in.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 01:55 | 1864780 Lord Koos
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No, they're too busy doing business.



Thu, 11/10/2011 - 02:07 | 1864800 Freddie
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The EPA? Like most govt agencies - too busy surfing the web for porn.

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 20:57 | 1863945 Uncle Remus
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Does this prove we don' need no steenkin' EPA?

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 21:41 | 1864120 fnordfnordfnord
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Look everyone! A socio-commu-terrororist! You just hate our freedom because you're jealous.

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 22:02 | 1864180 CH1
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This is bullshit. Tiny gaps collapsing don't shake the earth - large plate movements do.

This is being financed by the big oil players. Fracking is their doom and must be stopped at all costs. They OWN the US Geological Survey.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 01:59 | 1864787 Lord Koos
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Spoken with the confidence of someone who has a degree in geology, or some other relevant scienific experience. Too bad that it's obvious that you do not.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 02:33 | 1864840 geekgrrl
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Ditto that. Massive hydraulic pressure pulverizes the rock, and yet subsequent earthquakes are somehow unexpected? Please.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 02:55 | 1864864 TheMerryPrankster
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Cause and effect are very difficult for some to conceive when it is out of sight. "We pumped water in the ground and the grounds already full of water how could that affect anything?"

In the Barnett Shale, estimated frack water usage ranges between 2.5 to 9 million gallons per frack. The Eagle Ford Shale average, according to the Texas Water Development Board, is 7.5 million gallons per frack. We don’t know exactly how much water they use because most of the estimates come from industry. We do have the little dab of information from the Upper Trinity Groundwater Conservation District that revealed industry used 1,146,598,272.73 gallons of groundwater in 2009. But that only considers the metered sources. There were many cases where industry took water from unmetered sources with no enforcement action or fines.

Another estimate on frack water usage comes from the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA). recently reported in their article, Gas fracturing trades one scarce resource for another, that EPA “estimates water use for fracking nationwide was 70 billion to 140 billion gallons in 2010.”

Fracking could suck Texas dry. Photo: Memphis Commercial Appeal

What if I told you that these estimates are only a drop in the bucket when you consider the associated water usage required to fracture a well?

I don’t know how much sand they use to frack a Barnett Shale gas well but I did find a frack sand provider that claims it takes 5 millions pounds of sand to frack a Marcellus gas well. So, let’s just use that for a ballpark number. According to my favorite iPhone App, Convert, that’s 2,500 tons of frack sand for one frack job. 

You might remember from my blog post, Frack sand mining doesn’t just suck, it blows, that Enron Oil and Gas (EOG) will use 3700 gallons of water per minute to process frack sand at their proposed mine in North Texas.  According to the permit, the EOG frack sand mine can produce up to a maximum of 150 tons of finished frack sand per hour.

Fun with fracking social math:

  • 2500 tons is approximately 303 African elephants.
  • At 150 tons per hour, it will take 17 hours and 3,774,000 million gallons of water to process 2500 tons of frack sand.  (Now you have enough sand to frack one well.)
  • A Barnett Shale gas well takes from 2.5 to 9 million gallons of water to frack.
  • There are approximately 15,000 wells in the Barnett Shale.
  • If each well used only the minimum amount of water, 2.5 million gallons, and only 2500 tons of frack sand, the associated water cost for fracking one well would be 6,274,000 million gallons.
  • That’s a minimum of 94,110,000,000 gallons of water and 3,750,000 tons of sand (454,545 African elephants) used to frack the approximately 15000 Barnett Shale gas wells.
  • According to the US Geological Survey, a person uses 80 to 100 gallons of water a day.  
  • Using the higher number of 100 gallons of water a day, that is enough water for 941,100,000 people for one day.
  • That’s enough water for 31,370,000 people for one month.
  • That’s enough water for 2,578,368 people for one year.
  • That’s enough water for 36,834 people for an entire generation (70 years).
  • That’s almost enough water for all of Cooke County for 70 years.
  • That’s enough water for the entire 6,500,000 population of Dallas for 145 days.

That’s a whole lot of fracking water!

The EOG frack sand mine is in an area designated by TCEQ as a priority groundwater management area (PGMA). According to TCEQ, a PGMA is "an area designated and delinated by TCEQ that is experiencing, or is expected to experience, within 25 years, critical groundwater problems including shortages of surface water or groundwater, land subsidence resulting from groundwater withdrawal, and contamination of groundwater supplies."

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 19:55 | 1868258 Augustus
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Quit posting the Pranking nonsense.

The El Paso Water Utility serves roughly 750,000 people using 133 g/da.  That is then about 100,000,000 gallons / day for ONE utility.  Who is sucking Texas dry?

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 23:17 | 1864427 soitis
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If you have everyone else doing somebody's job, nobody gets blamed. It's called good government practice, sheesh. What? Your government makes more sense?

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 00:04 | 1864564 Willzyx
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The army is better funded

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 04:03 | 1864917 Seer
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The Army existed BEFORE the EPA.  Lots of data predated the EPA.  And in modern times the corporate funders of the govt (energy, banking and insurance) manipulate nearly all activities (though not all can be monitored).

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