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Guest Post: Welcome To The United States of Orwell, Part 1: Our One Last Chance to Preserve the Bill of Rights

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Submitted by Charles Hugh Smith from Of Two Minds

Welcome to the United States of Orwell, Part 1: Our One Last Chance to Preserve the Bill of Rights

This Congress and President Obama have shredded the Bill of Rights. We have one last chance to restore the Founding Fathers' bastion against a rogue Central State: the Bill of Rights.

"Everything that Richard Nixon did to me, for which he faced impeachment and prosecution, which led to his resignation, is now legal under the Patriot Act, the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, and the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA)." Daniel Ellsberg. Can Congress legalize tyranny by passing a law that says it can? Can Congress shred the Bill of Rights by passing a law that says it can? Well, Congress has passed such a law, and President Obama--the most effective Trojan Horse president in American history, a plutocrat dressed as a "progressive"-- rushed to sign it on New Years Eve 2011 when nobody was looking.

This is not a partisan issue, though various flaks and toadies are attempting to make it so. Here is how the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) describes the NDAA: Indefinite Detention, Endless Worldwide War and the 2012 National Defense Authorization Act.

He signed it. We'll fight it. President Obama signed the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) into law. It contains a sweeping worldwide indefinite detention provision. The dangerous new law can be used by this and future presidents to militarily detain people captured far from any battlefield. He signed it. Now, we have to fight it wherever we can and for as long as it takes.

Here is a discussion of the two key sections of the act: National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2012 (Wikipedia)

The problem that all the congressional supporters of the NDAA don't seem to get is that the difference between a dissenter and a "belligerent" is in the eye of the beholder. This is why the Founding Fathers guaranteed civil liberties against the power of the Central State. Now those guarantees have been overthrown by the pursuit of endless war against an ill-defined threat by a congressional act that no military or law-enforcement agency requested: this is 100% politico-instigated.

We have one last chance to restore at least a part of the Bill of Rights. Some members of Congress awakened from their fund-raising somnambulance and proposed the Due Process Guarantee Act which would restore the Bill of Rights to its proper place in US law.

So do one thing today for the nation and its liberties: contact your representative and senators to press them to support this bill. Ask them which military or law enforcement agencies requested that Congress nullify the Bill of Rights with the NDAA. Advise them to do the correct thing for once in their sordid little careers and vote for the Due Process Guarantee Act.

This page lists other articles about the NDAA and also provides links to find your representative and Senators: It's treason. Call it what it is.

The only presidential candidate who has vowed to axe the NDAA provisions is Ron Paul. If you support any other candidate, ask why they are supporting the gutting of the Bill of Rights under the Orwellian umbrella of GWOT (global war on terror).

In case you have any doubts about where our "leadership" is taking us, please review these Assorted quotes by Fascists or about Fascism.


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Mon, 03/26/2012 - 11:58 | 2291247 AgShaman
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Obama is not concerned....he's been given his green light to whisper "sweet nothings" to Medvedev

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 12:11 | 2291295 Sudden Debt
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Funny if you look at Obumul give his speech at the un about "give peace a chacnce in north korea"...

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 13:07 | 2291518 Chief KnocAHoma
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When will the President make a comment about this?

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 12:20 | 2291326 john39
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anyone really believe the psy-op bs about left on microphones?  I don't really give shit what the object of that little play was, it doesn't matter.  government puppet speaks, you know its a lie.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 12:40 | 2291339 gangland
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i really dont care about democracy, rights, blah blah blah, why stress, why all the hand wringing, fcuk it,

too much momentum to try to fight it, i dont need the stress nor do i have the energy and wherewithal to fight this monolith alone,

especially when 99% of the population doesnt give a flying fuck, people are still too invested in this,

they feel like they still have too much to lose than to stand up, organize and fight back,

they still think calling congressmen and senators will make a difference,

they still think writing the white house or signing an electronic petition will move things in the right direction

they still think protesting and non-violent resistance is viable

and that somehow their FICO score will still grow,and there is next years black friday to consider

they wont organize and take up arms against the jack boot,

heck that kind of talk scares everyone into inaction and prevarications

i am  tired of being emotionally, mentally and socially ostracized for speaking truth to power, it's too late for any and all of that,

now the waitng is all.....i dont give shit anymore about the constitution or the bill of right or anything, why should i? theyve been dead for decades and no one gave a shit then or now.

If it be now, ’tis not to come. If it be not to come, it will be now. If it be not now, yet it will come—the readiness is all. - hamlet act v.ii


Mon, 03/26/2012 - 12:45 | 2291426 brewing
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i couldn't decide if i should give you a up or down arrow, so i don't give a shit either...

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 12:50 | 2291448 AgShaman
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The truth is not yeah, I agree....a peaceful solution is not in the cards we're dealt.


Mon, 03/26/2012 - 13:41 | 2291682 The Alarmist
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That's it! You are all on double-secret probation.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 15:25 | 2292067 AgShaman
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The "smart meters" and appliances in our homes will be reporting back to DHS and Gen. "Betray-Us" at the CIA.

You better not talk bad about the govt. in your home....or you'll be deemed a "Te****ist"

Learn sign language....when your throwing a rant about the govt. towards your wife

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 16:05 | 2292195 XitSam
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In the future TV watches you.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 13:08 | 2291520 stirners_ghost
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Free your mind, and your ass will follow.


Mon, 03/26/2012 - 13:11 | 2291540 GeneMarchbanks
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+1 for Parliament

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 14:42 | 2291905 W10321303
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I believe that M & P know the odor of a blood sucking vampire zombie...

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 11:59 | 2291251 Dane Bramage
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So do one thing today for the nation and its liberties: contact your representative and senators to press them to support this bill


"Dear congresscritter,  Please legalize the constitution."   Yeah.. I'll get right on that.  :(

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 12:16 | 2291310 WestVillageIdiot
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All I care about at this point is to bring back the Constitution's intended right to secession.  There is no longer any way to save this monstrosity.  Break it up and let people have a choice of where they want to live.  That is the only way that NYC and DC will ever be stopped from continuing this rapefest. 

Fuck Lincoln.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 12:23 | 2291343 Chump
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But he freeded da slaaaavveees!!!  You must be raaaaaaaacist!

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 15:16 | 2292038 dolly madison
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Yes, I think all this will eventually end in the states not being united anymore. 

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 18:57 | 2292770 Marc_W
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They are working hard to normalize culture and thought throughout the U.S.  They want to create their harmonious and homogeneous society; in thought at least.


In the future the people in Texas won't think any differently than the people in New York or D.C., and so there will be no conflict in the edicts that are issued from those far off cities to be followed in the South, Mid-West, and other regions of the U.S. currently at odds with the political leadership.


Socialism requires the elimination of true diversity in a nation.  Diversity of culture and thought.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 20:49 | 2293019 StychoKiller
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Soma is a helluva drug (just say NO!)

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 12:17 | 2291317 pods
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Perfect DB.  Glad someone else caught the irony!

Congress, which is bound by the constitution (theory) must pass a law to enforce the foundation from which all its allocated powers spring?

Alice?  Hello?  Rabbit hole anyone?

Perfect precedent.  Congress is ABOVE the constitution, for their laws determine which parts of it they enforce.


Mon, 03/26/2012 - 12:31 | 2291369 JimBowie1958
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You guys are nailing it.

If these abuses of power are never meant to be used, then why not pass S2003 and officially and legally reign in the potential for abuse?

More and more I feel like our government has been taken over by Pod People.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 12:47 | 2291439 eatthebanksters
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I say let the presuure buil  until it boils over...then we'll have real and enduring change...

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 13:11 | 2291538 GottaBKiddn
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That's just it, The Declaration, and The Constitution never really were legal documents, but it's been warm, fuzzy to think that and teach it to our kids.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 14:18 | 2291824 A Lunatic
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Not sure why the junks on that one. The entire Constitution has been done away with because the Constitution has allowed it. Lysander Spooner addressed this issue fully and Kenneth Royce also makes a very good argument regarding the intentional alliance of the Constitution and big government based upon the foundation laid out (in part) by Alexander Hamilton. Here are a few of the issues built in to the very Constitution we have been brainwashed to hold as sacred.

1) Federal statute is the supreme law of the land which displaces state/local law

2) The "necessary and proper" clause give Congress nearly unlimited legislative possibilities

3) the "General welfare" clause provides for virtually unlimited means of direct taxation

4) The Senate impeaches it's own members

5) Judiciary has NO check or balance by the States or people

5) Judiciary decides if Federal actions are/not Constitutional

6) Judiciary interprets the "spirit" of Constitution through the "equity" clause

The list could go on. The more one studies the Constitution, the more one comes to the inescapable conclusion that we have exactly the form of government that the Constitution has allowed and we are truly fucked.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 16:35 | 2292317 pods
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I had to give you a greenie just for mentioning Spooner.  That is some reading that will shake you to the core (it did me).

Brilliant guy though!

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 17:31 | 2292486 The Alarmist
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You forgot the "Good and Plenty" clause ... I know it's in there, because I can discern its penumbra.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 20:52 | 2293022 StychoKiller
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"I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison

"Charity is no part of the legislative duty of the government." - James Madison

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 17:05 | 2292402 Mr Kurtz
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Unfortunately. according to the Due Process Guarentee Act has about an 8% chance of passing. From that sorry ass statistic, I conclude that the 92% of our so-called "representatives" figure that the sheeple would rather be "safe" from mysterious brown boogie-men hiding in caves then be free and will vote accordingly.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 11:59 | 2291252 q99x2
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The UN is the World's Enemy. Down with the UN Now.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 12:13 | 2291301 pods
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The UN would be piss poor and powerless if the underlying countries could not borrow credit money created out of thin air to support it.

Burn the banking industry to the ground and you will see how ineffectual all the alpabet agencies become.

No free credit money (paid for by you and your kids), no power for them.


Mon, 03/26/2012 - 12:17 | 2291319 WestVillageIdiot
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Are you insane?  These are the most talented, productive people on the planet.  They have risen to the top because they are the cream.


For all of you sarcastically challenged, that was sarcasm. 

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 14:15 | 2291809 Kaiser Sousa
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"For all of you sarcastically challenged, that was sarcasm."
For reals??? Now....

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 19:17 | 2292830 Real Money Wins
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Cream is not the only thing that rises to the top, so does Pond Scum!

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 21:51 | 2293146 Lower Class Elite
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And shit.  Don't forget shit.  It floats.

Tue, 03/27/2012 - 02:23 | 2293564 ForTheWorld
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Only if you have a poor diet.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 12:51 | 2291457 FeralSerf
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Yep, in the Good Old Days, when the Tyrant in Charge ran out of gold to pay his troops he was done. Now he can just print some more Jewish confetti and keep shooting.

We can vote with our feet, but Lincoln showed us that he could shoot us in the back if we tried that.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 17:27 | 2292478 Husk-Erzulie
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Which is exactly what has made central banking so powerful.  It's the ultimate weapon of mass destruction because it can build weapons and keep armies in the field (almost) indefinitely.  It's the offer you can't refuse, as a state, if you want to be able to defend yourself.  What makes it particularly beautiful from the zionist point of view of course is that central bankers can set two or more states against each other and work them both to utter exhaustion; in the process plundering them while utterly unhinging their cultural continuity, making their cultural heritage completely unrecoverable, al la Germany, Japan and Russia in war number 2 and The United States to a lesser, but effective enough, degree in both wars 1 and 2.  Strip them of their wealth, destroy their culture, and do it from the shadows.  These are the works of the "chosen" people.  Kind of like Rome without the vibrance and panache and 2000 years too late.  The human race is moving on fucktards.  Toward peace, cooperation, respect, and cultural complexity.  Somehow I don't think the fantasy land of Greater Israel is going to be part of that equation.  If you happen to be a part of the religious and genetic heritage which is the diaspora, make the decision now, before it's too late, reject zionism, join the human race.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 12:00 | 2291258 bgilliam83
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 Close all bank accounts, if you haven't already.  Check your preps, buy another gun (oh wait lol).

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 12:04 | 2291269 T-roll
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Better watch what you post.  You might find yourself detained for an indefinite amount of time with those words!

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 12:23 | 2291338 john39
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they don't have the capacity.  they need most americans to be afraid for this progrom to work.  if enough people pull their heads out and speak out, pull money out of the system, expose lies and demand accountability, the system will collapse.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 13:41 | 2291675 MissCellany
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"for this progrom to work"

Freudian typo, or keen play on words?

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 12:49 | 2291447 bgilliam83
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I'm assuming once Americans start disappearing, and we will, ya'll got my back right? lol

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 19:32 | 2292867 Marc_W
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Good luck I'm behind 7 proxies.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 12:23 | 2291341 Stoploss
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I did, i have, and they're out right now.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 12:03 | 2291267 tony bonn
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"It's treason. Call it what it is."

damned right it is, but this is exactly at what the bush crime syndicate has aimed since bush,sr murdered president kennedy along with his other plutocratic elite buddies....

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 12:22 | 2291336 Stoploss
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Das wha hoppens when you don't support the ponzi and their wars. JFK was on the cusp of the first taste of financial freedom this country ever had, with the space program.

NWO simply couldn't have that shit..

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 12:33 | 2291373 pods
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JFK was not the hero you are looking for.

(if you were speaking of EO 11110)

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 14:21 | 2291841 RallyRoundTheFamily
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Mon, 03/26/2012 - 17:47 | 2292499 New World Chaos
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Congrats on being one of the few who understands that the very thought of Space Wild West gives them nightmares.  The thought of contact with aliens who might have a better way of doing things scares them even more.  Hence shutting down SETI twice, even though it cost maybe one millionth of the wars' cost.  Seriously.  If we were to find any kind of life out there we would be inspired to leave this prison planet, and then we might figure out that even a precarious existence is better than all their bullshit, and then we might build a better system that competes with theirs.  One smallish asteroid, dribbled out over time, would provide enough metals to crush inflation, demonetize PMs, and continue the ponzi for the forseeable future.  Why aren't they interested?

Obama just recently cut off NASA's last remaining crown jewel, the robotic exploration program.  If we never know about life on Mars, Titan, Europa, and Enceladus, we will never dream about going there.  This is the latest fucking in a decades-long process of transforming space exploration into a make-work program for bureaucrats and contractors.

Tue, 03/27/2012 - 01:01 | 2293471 Marc_W
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NASA is the least "diverse" agency of the U.S. federal government.  By that I mean blacks are only slightly over represented rather than hugely over represented.


That dog won't hunt.  Not with Obama in charge.  Slash the budget of those uppity smart cracker scientists and engineers.  God damn nerds trying to explore the universe.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 12:03 | 2291268 SillySalesmanQu...
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I say we "indefinitely detain" all of the CongressCritters that passed this POS.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 12:10 | 2291292 T-roll
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Good idea.  However, you must tread with caution as HR 347 has restricted how close we can get to these clowns.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 12:06 | 2291274 T-roll
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My congressman is John Boehner.   He seems to always ignore me when I contact him.  Guess he's too busy tanning.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 12:57 | 2291480 Al Huxley
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It's nothing personal, he ignores you because he doesn't give a fuck about your opinion, that's all.  Unless you have some serious cash to hand over, you're just not important.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 13:50 | 2291714 The Alarmist
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Lighten up, folks. He's trying soooo hard to govern, and you people keep throwing all this heavy reading (Constitution, Bill of a rights, Declaration) at him, a former jock from Moeller HS in Cincinnati. No wonder the guy is always in tears.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 12:06 | 2291278 Global Hunter
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GOP Caucus operatives trying to cheat RP out of votes caught on camera

picked up those links on AJs website.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 12:07 | 2291282 onlooker
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Is the link to the Act in original form in the article or did I miss it. Anyone have the link of the Actual Document?

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 12:08 | 2291285 Grey-Ghost
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America is a fascist oligarchy at home and a murderous tyrant abroad. Americans have no problem with it. Therefore the NDAA and all the fascists "laws" imposed on us.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 12:18 | 2291321 WALLST8MY8BALL
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Grey Ghost, This weekend Union Square Park had more Police then Citizens. My wife and I walked past 3 NYPD on horse's and they were laughing and carrying on chatting about the "Celebrities" they managed to see in the park that day. It was both frightening and pathetic to see. There were about 20 "Occupiers" and about 200 police!

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 13:54 | 2291727 The Alarmist
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Well, when we did Greneda in '83, it was on the order of 7000 to 2000, so the NYPD seems to have gotten the doctrine right.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 12:23 | 2291340 Vince Clortho
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"... Americans have no problem with it..."

The U.S. is the most propagandized country on the planet.  The MSM has acheived such unquestioned dominance that it practically controls the thought processes of 90+ percent of the population.  For example, most Americans think the Constitution and The Bill of Rights are still law.

It misses the point to think Americans are "not having a problem with it"; it is more accurate to say that most Americans are simply ignorant of reality.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 12:36 | 2291389 JimBowie1958
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I might be a tad optimistic, but I sense a change in the breeze these past two years.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 12:59 | 2291490 Al Huxley
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There's been a change alright, just not the one you're hoping for (unless your optimistic about the steady progress towards totalitarian control and naked fascism).

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 13:16 | 2291562 Grey-Ghost
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I would not be so kind to the Americans. Especially not to the "good Americans" -- even the MSM agrees that Iraq did not have WMD so the new narrative is that Saddam Hussein was a bad guy.

Now even Americans, as they are perceived as "bad guys", can be killed or imprisoned forever.

When a "good American" goes to the airport and some TSA fascist child molestor gropes the "good American's" 5 y.o. daughter or son for their genitals, he or she does not need MSM to distort the reality, it's kind of obvious what's going on, but they'd accept TSA molestation as something good or, at least, acceptable. So the "good Americans" prefer to have their kids traumatized for life than to give up a flight and, perhaps, drive several hours or two days instead.

And when Obama would tell them, unless I kill 1,000,000 Iranians for no Iraqis are left to be murdered, you'd be without iPhone service, they'd prefer to have those 1,000,000 Iranians murdered so they'd can tweet or update their "walls" via the precious iPhone. Just substitute the words like "innocent civilians", "children", "Iranians", "women" with the word "terrorist" and voila!, they'd rejoice.

At the end, the nation, the people create or support or condone the regime they have. They are not "ignorant of reality" they are mean, vile and supportive of their murderous regime. If they were not they would, at least, protest the forever wars abroad or banksters looting at home (in some real sense, like seizing The Financial Crime Cartel offices, elected official offices...). Take the iPhone away from them and send them (draft them) to war and you'd see.

But, as long as someone else does their bidding (steals natural resources so they can have cheap goods, or enslaves people so the products they buy are cheap...) like the 100+ mercenary, Blackwater type "contractors", killing and looting in their name (paid for their tax dollar), they are fine with it.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 14:00 | 2291745 Think for yourself
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Wouldn't say that you're wrong, but don't worry too much. It is not in your power, nor your responsibility, to bear the weight of their corruption on your shoulders. Corrupt people engender a corrupt society, and a corrupt society breeds corrupt people. At least be grateful that your understanding is sufficient; you need not be corrupt like them.

Here's a little nugget of ancient hermetic wisdom for you: As above, so below, and as below, so above. While the unawaked are thrown about by the heaving sea, the master will rise above the waves, perfectly controlling where he is. Then the law submits to him, while the unawakened submit to the law.

Effect the law, instead of being affected by it. That is all you can, and need to, do.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 12:08 | 2291286 Moneyswirth
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Wait, wasn't Obamao supposed to stop the Bush-era infringement on the Constitution? The whole "Imperial Presidency" bit we heard about for so long? 


Mon, 03/26/2012 - 12:12 | 2291297 T-roll
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Proof that Bush and Obama are pretty much one in the same.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 13:05 | 2291510 harami
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How could they possibly be the same?  Obama repealed DADT and nationalized healthcare!  The war mongering homophobe known as GW is clearly cut from a different cloth!


Mon, 03/26/2012 - 13:38 | 2291659 Nobody For President
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But lucky us, looks like we get a choice soon between Obama and (trumpets sound) Mitt?

We are truly fucked.

Write in RP, anyone? (Not that Diebold will notice.)

I weep for my country and the Constitution and Bill of Rights that I once defended.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 14:02 | 2291765 The Alarmist
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I think this time around I want paper ballots nationwide, purple ink-dipped fingers after you vote, and perhaps a few election monitors from other countries. Sauce for the gander, so to say.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 15:44 | 2292124 Conax
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+1 for mentioning Diebold.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 18:56 | 2292768 The Heart
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"I weep for my country and the Constitution and Bill of Rights that I once defended."

Funny thing, I was just at our local post office sending off for some garden seeds and thinking this exact same thing.

Normally, I like to engage in some conversation to make people think about today's horrendous direction that this country is headed into, but instead realized it is too late. I just hung my head looking at all the people there that have no clue. Most are addicted to the drug digital TV.

People do not want to know how bad it is. The evidence of how far gone this country is shown by the amounts of brain dead digital TV mind controlled lemming-sheeple we see still supporting the agenda to destroy this country. All fueled on by the rothschild empire owned lame stream media propaganda machine of dis/mis-information and all around horse-excrement. We see those who support the soeterobama and those that support his twin, mittneysoeterobama still wanting this absolute twilight zone madness to continue. Never ending wars and never ending poverty for all and soon, depression, more WAR, all ending our freedoms, liberty, and the once was great country this was. No one seems to get it. We are NOW pre-nazi(NAtionalist-ZIonist) germany and it is a twilight zone to think this has actually almost verbatim happened again. Guess who the mean ol bad guys are this time and are being set up like a bowling ball pins to lose this next horrendous NBC World War? They are still marching off into that direction and what will stop it all?

The amazing and great thing is, since we began to awaken 13 years ago, we have come a long ways. That is evidenced when we are all speaking the same language. People all over the net are speaking the same language of liberty and awareness like in the fine expressions of the higher light here, and on other popular websites.

Big bless you and thank you for your service to what Amerika was.

You can bet Sir that you will get another chance to defend the Constitution...and your Country.


Mon, 03/26/2012 - 12:21 | 2291318 rwe2late
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 The bill has zero percent or less chance of passage, and even less chance of being adhered to even if enacted.

Obama will oppose this bill (as would have Bush before him) on the grounds that it would allegedly "unConstitutionally" infringe on the executive authority as C-in-C in times of "war" and "emergencies", and hamper his ability to "keep America safe".

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 12:10 | 2291291 pods
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Passing a law to legalize the foundation of the law just passed is a good one!

Forget it. It is over.  When we burn maybe we can find the ashes of the Articles of Confederation.



Mon, 03/26/2012 - 12:13 | 2291300 El
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Here is the final that was sent to the president.


He added a signing statement, which can be found here:

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 13:06 | 2291514 Grinder74
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Oh yeah, you mean those old horrible unconstitutional signing statements the Eeeviil Buussshh always did that Obowmuch wasn't going to do?

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 12:17 | 2291309 ObungaBoy
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it is much too late for that - U.S. is already a Jewish kabuki and your American's freedoms mean less than nothing to these 3th world greedy Wall Street freaks

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 12:26 | 2291327 Mercury
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1. Sex

2. Shopping

Please make a note of it.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 13:13 | 2291550 brown_hornet
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Merc- You forgot contraception

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 14:02 | 2291767 Think for yourself
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Doesn't need to be in the bill, Big ol' Bro will make sure it's compulsory

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 14:04 | 2291774 The Alarmist
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Don't forget to include a Good & Plenty clause.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 12:20 | 2291329 Silver Dreamer
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It's not going to happen folks, and we all know it, right?  Prepare while you still have the time and resources.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 12:24 | 2291344 10mm
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So Eat,drink and be merry,for your time is short.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 12:25 | 2291345 Hobbleknee
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Mon, 03/26/2012 - 12:38 | 2291396 JimBowie1958
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It will take years to overturn the NDAA, but this bill could redress some problems with it in fairly short order.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 12:26 | 2291353 tim73
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The Bill of Rights is reserved for those with net worth more than five million dollars. For those with less, there is a separate Bill of Liabilities.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 13:05 | 2291512 DrewJackson
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You may want to add a few zeros to that.  Inflations and all....

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 12:27 | 2291360 Endstrategy
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These bills like the NDAA are just words. The Zerohedge crowd gets riled up easily. Is anyone spying on you? Hauling you off to jail? Censoring your ZH posts? Nope.

So just settle down. The USA is free and you are free to do what you want. Those people that get detained or spied on, are doing things destructive to the country. I'm thankful that the government is keeping us law abiding citizens safe. Maybe you should be thankful, too, and stop the bitching.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 13:02 | 2291401 Endstrategy
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Who downthumbed me?

Try to bring a little reason to the bastion of paranoia known as ZH and this is the thanks I get?

Go get an ice cream cone and relax.

Edit to add: sorry for ruining your little black panther party. I'll stop posting here as it's clear I'm not welcome.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 13:12 | 2291546 realitybiter
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You are an idiot who has no history education or appreciation for history.

There is NO society that has survived, with a thriving cross-section of multiple classes, where the governing body was allowed to legally "spy".  Never.

Thomas Jefferson was right.  Orwell was right.  Stalin was wrong, Hitler was wrong, Pol Pot was wrong, ditto for Mao, ditto for w, ditto for you know who.

Orwell simply realized that eventually, the idiots would go along with "the plan."  Quit being an idiot.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 13:17 | 2291566 pods
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You are free to post here as you wish.

Posting here does not mean you are entitled to having others believe as you do.
If you are truly of the beliefs you have posted, why not try to at least argue them without tossing out inflammatory remarks first?

Then to quickly reply and piss and moan about how nobody likes you?

Grow a pair and learn to argue.


Mon, 03/26/2012 - 14:10 | 2291788 Think for yourself
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Welcome to Fight Club. If the going's too tough for you, the door is right over here in the top right-hand corner - chances are it's marked with an X.

Otherwise, feel free to stay. Your presence is welcome and we're glad we'll get to talk to you. Doesn't mean we automatically have to agree with you, though. Arrows are not a sign of popularity, but the norm of the number you get is significant. At least 20 people cared enough to tell you they disagree - useless posts rarely get more than an arrow or two. You could use that reaction to get a discussion started, instead of complaining about it.

Dialectics are the sharpening stone of the mind.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 14:49 | 2291933 Jena
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Stick around a little longer, you've already put in some time.  But you'll have to be more informed and persuasive if you want positive reinforcement.  

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 16:28 | 2292269 Bansters-in-my-...
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I have one response to Endstrategy

Fuck Off.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 12:53 | 2291463 johnQpublic
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they are spying on ALL of us dummy


and DHS hauled my brother off to jail

no bail

for forty episodes of the simpsons


Mon, 03/26/2012 - 13:09 | 2291533 johnQpublic
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not sarc

not a joke by the way

motions april 5th

since they confiscated everything he owns, he is now divorced so the wife could keep the house

public defender

you think whats happening with the US is a damn all means keep it up

dont do anything

but dont download anything, and dont make it available to others

them thar theys are serious as fuck

your time may come as well

keep your heads in the sand at your own peril

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 13:43 | 2291688 Endstrategy
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JohnQ, sorry to hear about you brother, and I wish him the best.

I was joking with my comments, but had no idea such minor infractions were being treated so through my poor sense of humor, at least I gained some insight from you.

Chalk it up to Poe's Law:

I am intimately familiar with the destruction of the US Constitution. I have been stacking for a few years, stockpiling sundries, and am formulating a game plan, hopefully to deal with whatever comes.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 14:04 | 2291777 Endstrategy
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Wow, just can't win here. I get trashed for parody, then get trashed for sincerity.

Might as well trash this reply, too.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 14:12 | 2291801 pods
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Well I think that many (me) are tired of trolls. I did reply to your post above with my arguments.

My guess is that people stay pissed and that is why you are getting whacked here.

As for the trolling, it was good, I bit.

Do you practice catch and release?



Mon, 03/26/2012 - 14:59 | 2291975 Endstrategy
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Thanks pods.

I guess the way to know if I'm a good troll is if I'm convincing. I think I was;) Trolling is an art, and definitely has a short lifespan, as even MillionDollarBonus has lost his luster.

I've been reading ZH for quite a while, but rarely post...just feeling chipper today!



Mon, 03/26/2012 - 14:14 | 2291802 Think for yourself
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well, if it was sarcasm, it was too well constructed to notice - you did not leave any hint that it was the case. I briefly considered it might be sarcasm but still concluded it wasn't. The response was negative because the sarcasm was lost, but the intensity of the response still tells you of the significance of your contribution.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 15:44 | 2292121 DutchR
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Ask and ye shall receive,

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 13:03 | 2291502 Al Huxley
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Riiiight, "why do you care if they're spying on you if you're not doing anything wrong?", is that what you're in essence saying?  Liberty for 'safety', nice trade.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 13:07 | 2291522 Endstrategy
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I was trying to do my best MillionDollarBonus impersonation, but it hasn't gone over too well.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 14:06 | 2291783 Nobody For President
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Yeah, it was a little too heavy - actually, WAY too overstated. MDB usually has enough subtlety to rile the troops, but you were too blatant.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 14:16 | 2291817 Think for yourself
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I thought he was much more believable than MDB, all the worse because the ideas he was stating are often heard from the conditionned sheeple...

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 16:00 | 2292174 Conax
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If you have nothing to hide, why are you against this?

That is sheep speak 101. And a heinous offence to Freedom.

I wanted to add that anyone that never got any red arrows must be Mother Teresa. There are all kinds here, and mousing a <bip> is no tribble at all.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 13:08 | 2291525 Vince Clortho
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It's time to wake up.  It's past time to wake up.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 13:46 | 2291702 Dollar Bill Hiccup
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Thank you for your insights, Ms. Napolitano.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 21:05 | 2293041 StychoKiller
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I can think of OVER 15Trillion reasons WHY the status quo you're in favor of is gonna go bye-bye -- it's gonna be a bitch when the red pill finally kicks in...

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 21:39 | 2293112 Vlad Tepid
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I love that term:  Law-abiding citizen.  You, me, everyone here and the Constitution agree that Natrual Law-abiding citizens ought to be protected by the government - indeed that's their only legitimate purpose.

How do you remain a "law-abiding citizen" when the laws that you trumpet erode more and more of our civil liberties?  Do you understand that killing an "undesirable" in Nazi Germany was perfectly legal for "law-abiding citizens?"  That's why people like you who will bend your morals to whatever the book says that a judge holds in their hands are scary to people like me.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 12:29 | 2291363 ReeferMac
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THank you for drawing attenbtion to this egregious use of politics!

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 12:31 | 2291367 Watauga
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Seriously, if the Supreme Court allows Obamacare to stand, the game is over anyway.  Period.  There is no limitation on the Centralized State if Obamacare is not struck down.  And even if it is, the powers discussed in the lead article, above, are probably beyond recovery.  We have unleashed Leviathan to transition from a relatively benign nanny state into the evil, despotic beast of our worst nightmares.

The series of Statist laws that have resulted from 9/11, and which seem to grow weekly, the reality of FEMA's network of camps, the hoarding of food by DHS, the expansion of "law enforcement" authority to every agency that wants to put two guys in a room and call the agency "security," and the push to put UAVs into our skies by the thousands to provide 24/7 surveillance, all lead to only one conclusion--the S is going to HTF, and the Centralized State is going to impose totalitarian control over the States and the People.  TEOTWAWKI in the form of a Brave New World.

Have you read the Enemies, Foreign and Domestic trilogy?  Matthew Bracken's work is uncannily prescient.  If you want to see how the U.S. devolves in the coming 20 years, read his three books.


Mon, 03/26/2012 - 12:33 | 2291370 johnjkiii
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Wait until the election. This spells out what he's going to do: Suspend the election due to "National Emergency" He just gave himself the power to do so.

Read this:

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 12:35 | 2291382 pods
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The elections are for public consumption, not benefit.

We will have tanks escorting voters to the polls before they suspend elections.


Mon, 03/26/2012 - 12:46 | 2291431 Sweet Chicken
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+1 I agree completely. They would never halt elections because that would give the masses cause for alram. No TPTB will continue to let the mob believe they actually have some sort of say in who leads them.

Such bullshit. I'm waiting with rope in hand for the day we can hang these sumbitchez!!!

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 12:33 | 2291371 johnjkiii
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Wait until the election. This spells out what he's going to do: Suspend the election due to "National Emergency" He just gave himself the power to do so.

Read this:

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 12:34 | 2291376 penexpers
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The Unincorporate Man - by Dani Kollin and Etyan Kollin

I'm a big fan of dystopian fiction and I have to say that the type of totalitarian corporate control in this book could really be implemented.

Anyone ever read this?

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 12:37 | 2291394 pods
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Many would argue that this is NOT a work of fiction.


Mon, 03/26/2012 - 12:56 | 2291478 penexpers
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What's that link have to do with anything I posted?

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 13:22 | 2291591 pods
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The book you posted about what of a man who went to the future as an unincorporated individual.

The link I posted deals with a theory that we are all, in fact, incorporated individuals.  The link I have posted does not directly address this, but deals with the citizen (14th amendment) vs sovereign issue.

As a 14th amendment citizen, you are property of the 14th amendment trust, ie the corporate US government.

Sorry if I was not clear enough in my OP.


Mon, 03/26/2012 - 12:38 | 2291395 tim73
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"The Congress shall assemble at least once in every Year, and such Meeting shall be on the first Monday in December, unless they shall by Law appoint a different Day."

Well, that sounds ok. Just change it to "no more than once" :) Then those clowns would not mess up things so badly.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 12:40 | 2291408 TheGardener
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Charles lost me with his link to " Assorted quotes of
fascists about fascism". Sure that Marx quote is the only
fake ?

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 13:14 | 2291555 TheGardener
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Double checked that link: stupid commie site. Great way to
add credibility...

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 16:11 | 2292221 TheGardener
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What a honour it would be to be junked by the author himself, or even twice . :-)

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 12:48 | 2291441 lolmao500
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Yet all the Obama cocksuckers will vote again for him... and the neo-con sheeple will vote for anti-gun & anti-freedom Romney while only a minority of Americans have not lost their minds and are voting for Ron Paul.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 13:01 | 2291495 FeralSerf
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Why did Paul not vote against it?

"Not voting:


Johnson, E. B.

Sanchez, Loretta
 Young (FL)"

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 14:36 | 2291892 Totentänzerlied
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Diogenes was asked, "What is the difference between life and death?"

"No difference."

"Well then, why do you remain in this life?"

"Because there is no difference."

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 12:50 | 2291453 kralizec
Mon, 03/26/2012 - 19:25 | 2292845 The Heart
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Wowie ka-powie...if that was real...and not is pretty dang in your face politickin eh!

So, never mind all the Republican Hanky-Pankey, on with the soeterobama take over for the globalist banksters?

And...there will be an election if he is being real and then what?

Good news for the garden season.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 12:53 | 2291468 mick_richfield
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Wasting your time, looking in the wrong place.

If you have fiat currency, and a class of people who are allowed to create it, you have tyranny.    The plutocrats will control everything they wish to control, as certain as gravity. 

Your representatives are owned.  Why talk to them?  You threaten to vote them out?  The plutocrats can reward them, after just one turn in office, for voting as ordered.  And the next bunch will do likewise.

Restore objective money, or remain enslaved.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 14:13 | 2291806 pods
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Mon, 03/26/2012 - 14:27 | 2291874 mick_richfield
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Leslie Nielsen:  "Bingo!"

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 12:55 | 2291474 bgilliam83
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The feds are complete hopeless burnouts, I suggest everyone launch a 3rd party campain for their state legislatures and lets get STATES RIGHTS back!  If you want it done right you got to do it yourself.  I cant wait to see this clowns face when Nevada is succeeding around the end of the 2nd term, if we somehow even make it.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 13:05 | 2291507 sbenard
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"Trojan Horse president"?

You're too kind, Charles! He's worse than that! He's:

The Potentate of Perfidiousness

the Monarch of Marxism

His Unholy Unctuousness

the Master of Miscreance

the Tyrant of Treachery

America's Dictator

the Chieftan of Cheating

the Dictator of Debt

His Unholy Insolence

the Caliph of Corruption

the King of Cronyism

the Straw Man President

the Thief in Chief

the Faithless and Feckless One

The Panderer President

the Redistributionist in Chief

the Teleprompter Tyrant

His Mendacious Messiahship

the Master of Malevolence

President Thin-Skinned

the Master of Malfeasance

He's Emperor Obama!

Feel free to add a few!

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 13:08 | 2291528 Grinder74
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Austrian-speaking Asshole

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 14:10 | 2291793 blunderdog
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He's really not at all that important. 

He's just the guy they put up on stage for a few years.

Same as the last guy.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 13:10 | 2291536 Shameful
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Last chance to preserve the bill of rights?  Is it 2001 again?!?!  That boat has long set sail by my calender.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 13:15 | 2291559 BennyBoy
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Bill of Rights is now a Bill of Wrongs.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 13:18 | 2291569 q99x2
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There ain't no Indonesian taking me nowhere. Let's get that straight to begin with. There ain't a god damn person alive that feels safe walking with the Federal insurgents, under the direction of the UN and world central banks, shaking down, terrorising, the United States of America.

So what people are going to do is get that pyramid. The one with the eye and turn it upside down. Out of it will fall 1000 aristocracies who will promptly be sent to prison. Their vast wealth will be returned to the people throughout the world. Don't need much in this time of abundance except to rid the world of the major crime syndicates.

On a timeline of historic proportions this kind of thing happens over and over. Not to worry.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 13:21 | 2291583 optimator
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NDAA = Enabling Act.  The 99% don't know a thing about either one.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 13:25 | 2291602 JPM Hater001
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"We have one last chance to restore at least a part of the Bill of Rights. Some members of Congress awakened from their fund-raising somnambulance and proposed the Due Process Guarantee Act which would restore the Bill of Rights to its proper place in US law."

They are ignoring the Constitution all together.  What makes you think they have any more respect for the laws they pass?  You can't be serious you want more government legislation? 

Me thinks the Constitution stands nicely on its own.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 13:33 | 2291644 Westcoastliberal
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What really got my attention was the fact one of my senators, Barbara Boxer, probably one of the most progressive senators in the country, voted FOR the NDAA.  I can't imagine her vote was voluntary.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 13:59 | 2291756 TeresaE
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Seems like there were fewer than four desenting votes.

The Red vs. Blue divide is BS.

Led down the path by dividing us on distractions and ganging up on us to screw us over.

If in office they ARE the problem, thus they can't find the solution.

CONgress proves that everday.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 21:47 | 2293134 Vlad Tepid
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If you're serious in your shock, this should be a serious wake up call for you.  Conservatives, libertarians and liberals all are looking down the barrel of a crypto-fascist cabal made up of lots of people who have D's and R's after their name...don't mistake them as being on our side, Westcoast.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 13:28 | 2291612 Endstrategy
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Serious post (after getting trashed for humor in my last post):

Obama making big plans for next term? He tells Medvedev "I will have more flexibility after my next and last election."

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 21:13 | 2293055 StychoKiller
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Read this to see where you went overboard:


Mon, 03/26/2012 - 13:30 | 2291623 Westcoastliberal
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Obama is not a president, he's a pawn, a patsy in the game as was Oswald. Want proof?

Why would a Democratic president keep following the neo-con agenda unless the neo-cons were still in control of government?  Why would Obama give away EVERY progressive position before the real negotiating even began?

Want to know how all this happened?  It goes all the way back to JFK's assassination. Read Russ Baker's book "Family of secrets".  Read Michael C. Ruppert's book "Crossing the Rubicon".  These two guys are American hereos for speaking truth to power.  Buy these books and hold them close before they're banned, because mark my words they soon will be.

America isn't at a dangerous crossroads.  We've already passed that point about 10 years ago. But most Americans don't realize it.

Do NOT follow this link or you will be banned from the site!